@@thelostone6981 I honestly think both Gene and Roger would be sickened and depressed by what mainstream film has become. Thank God for their legacy of GREAT film criticism and honest, no holds barred reviews. We will never, never see their like again.
I remember sitting in a movie theater watching Armageddon, parts of the audience are groaning at the lame parts and laughing at the unintentionally funny parts, and then some guy said "Armageddon out of here" and walked out 😂
I rented it when it first came out on DVD & watched it w/a couple of friends. The second time I started dozing off, I said _Armagoin2beddin_ "Armageddon out of here" must have been epically funny in the movie theater! I bet a bunch of people laughed!
The potential for being in a theater with a fun audience was part of the "draw" (or appeal) for me anyway. Seen some average Bond films I remember as great because of the audience. If you were in an audience where at least 1 person had an infectous laugh, that would cause more people to laugh... When I lived in MD some pretty awful films were saved by the comedy genius of a few young black women. (they made us all laugh) anyway I only mention race because the white girls never said anything. @@farrellmcnulty909
"I'm Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun Times our first movie is called Last Rights and that's exactly what I'd like to administer to this film which is easily the most offensive big budget picture of 1988." Absolutely killed me.
Yeah, but WHICH shitty Madonna movie? Weren't they all? EDITED I started watching the clip after I posted my comment and yes, Body of Evidence WAS horrible, but I think it was Dafoe's next one after Last Temptation of Christ (another stinky - good actor, Dafoe, but he never had a chance).
00:00 The Scarlet Letter 03:50 Armageddon 07:57 Critters 2 11:15 Stargate 14:12 Last Rights 18:40 Caligula 19:20 Body of Evidence 22:22 Christopher Columbus: The Discovery 24:55 Staying Alive 28:55 Swing Kids 32:15 The Guardian 35:35 She's Out of Control 39:23 The Waterboy 41:50 Burn Hollywood Burn 44:50 Spice World 47:36 Mad Dog Time 51:05 North The only ones I've actually seen are Spice World (cute but dumb), Armageddon (*real* dumb), and North (great cast, but dumb).
Water boy came out when I was 11 and it’s one of the first times I remember feeling legitimately disappointed in a movie I was hyped for. Like, real human disappointment
We lost the weekly Siskel and Ebert show almost 25 years ago and nothing has come close to replacing it. While I didn’t always agree with their reviews, I greatly respected their passion and knowledge of current and past films. Miss these guys
Diotoir, I'm so happy and thankful you put this together. There's no more fun a movie genre than movies that so horribly bad. It's a shame Siskel and Ebert are no longer with us. How I would love to hear what they would say about the Little Mermaid, Peter Pan and Snow White - NOT the originals, but the slimy ooze seeping out of the sewage pipes at New Millennium Disney.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE LITTLE MERMAID. It was made for kids and for a new generation of people who are open to diversity. It was not made for you, a person comfortable with clichés and stereotypes. Born to only perceive African Americans as mere side characters, where you felt at ease. I'm more of a Siskel and Ebert fan than you ever can think you are, and I assure you, neither of them would have an issue with a mermaid being portrayed by an actress who is black. They wouldn't parrot some politician from Florida or repeat soundbites. They were champions of REPRESENTATION. Especially Ebert and his African American wife. You're not going to magat hat - Siskel and Ebert or wite-wash history to suit your narrow tastes and views of the world just because they are not here to defend themselves. SIT DOWN.
I liked that moment in the video in which Liv Tyler is caressing a tv monitor with Bruce Willis' face on it, and I wanted to Beavis it "check it out, she's feeling up her DAD!"
Agree with them or not, Siskel and Ebert stand out from modern critics by being well-versed in film, literature, and story-telling, and thus give concise explanations as to why movies are good or SUCK. Also, that Scarlet Letter movie sound god awful, and the repeated use of “noisy” to describe a Michael Bay movie is so humorously simple while undeniably accurate.
Many movie critics, especially in small market TV stations and newspapers, weren't actually movie critics at all. The popularity of S&E led media outlets to create their own movie review pieces in news, and they were often filled with news writers who took the job because they were re-assigned to it, or for the extra paycheck. I remember a story of a small TV station filled the movie reviewer role with a former weekend weatherman.
Siskel was a fairly astute consumer of cinema. Ebert was a living breathing "That didn't age well " meme. His opinions miss the mark with consistant entertainment value.
@richardenglish2195 No, because the creative effort of many filmmakers are entirely lost on him. Frequently he couldn't see the forest for the trees. Even when Gene points out to him what he's missing. He thought The Thing was a one-dimensional "gross-out" movie.
@@tommc3622He was right about The Thing but movies also exist in a time period and when that time changes, reinterpretations can sometimes resonate better with newer audiences. Another example of that would be "It's A Wonderful Life".
I guess there's something wrong with me because I honestly thought it was actually a pretty good movie. As twisted as Malcolm McDowell's Caligula was, his actions usually made sense, given the brutal nature of the world he lived in, and the reprehensible people he was surrounded by, in an extremely dark and vengeful comedic way, besides the incest, even though that was actually common with royal families.
@@dangheathen I'm curious about the upcoming new cut that's closer to the vision of thr scriptwriter, meaning the porn parts are mostly removed. They also seem to be animating the parts that weren't filmed.
S&E are greatly missed. No one has replaced them. I was smart, intelligent TV that at least caused one to think about seeing something. I think sometime the film industry really doesn't want critic(s) of their product, but think they maintain quality of what is produced and avoided viewers being turned off.
This type of film review, which we found in the written press, has completely disappeared from TV. And is absent from youtube. On RUclips what we find is “I like/dislike” but it’s not film criticism.
My Girlfriend and I at the time watched it and were completely stunned that we watched that noise filled mess We left before the ending it was that bad.
I never understood how people my age and even older liked Armageddon. I think that movie is among the worst movies ever made and had assumed only super low I.Q. Remedial learners would find anything to enjoy in it. Man was I shocked when people smart enough to tie their own shoes and who could read and drive liked it. Some of the worst acting, writing, and music use I have ever seen in a major release. ( obviously schlock and B movies not included. ) Pretty bad when a major Hollywood blockbuster is worse than many movies on Best of the Worst. #RedLetterMedia #PepperoniPizzaPiePeepHole
Because some people like things that you don't... Is the concept of subjectivity not something you understand? I don't like that movie, but I've known plenty of people who have. Movies are an art form, art is subjective.
Sadly, Bay set a precedent of big budgets , big set pieces, and big name actors being able to supersede a total lack of taste, restraint, logic, or common sense in a premise or script.
In Columbus, Marlon Brando looks like he's trying to hide the fact that he's in the movie. (In fact, he later asked to have his name removed from the credits)
Re: The Scarlet Letter, I don’t mind at all if they stray off the novel. The issue is whether in doing so they produce an effective film. Roger addresses this point and makes clear the movie sucks.
Jim Carrey’s imitation of David Caruso had me laughing so hard. The whole, “I taught I taw a pussycat. . . “ thing - from memory that was part of the bit - had me in stitches. But it was doubly funny because he kept standing up and making fun of Caruso over and over. Epic.
Love these two gentlemen, used to watched their show since its inception, they were both incredibly knowledgeable and passionate while reviewing films. After Gene Siskel passed away, it just wasn’t the same anymore, and while I did not always agree with their analysis, there was never any doubt or questions they firmly believe in it.
When hearing about Armageddon being strikingly noisy, I wonder what they'd think about modern movies. I stopped going to the Movie Theaters years ago, because when you go to Movie Theaters they have the volume set at 11.
I miss the days before streaming when a movie would come out and I would tune into Siskel and Ebert and get their take on it. I never missed a show when it was on.
It’s interesting listening to S&E talk about life being short, and nearly quitting the business because these awful movies are taking hours off your life, then we lose both of them young. A terrible irony.
@@CyanideSublime I'm glad you mentioned Independence Day. I always mixed these two movies up since they're both bad in the same way, but you're right, Armageddon is definitely the worst.
One of the remakes of ‘Brave New World’ was presented Not necessarily a dystopia, if not a dystopia at all. The one with Leonard Nimoy portraying director ‘mind’? It’s a truly great movie, in my opinion.
How on earth did they enjoy Critters and pan Critters 2? Critters was just a shit movie. Critters 2 actually swung for the fences and leaned into the absurdity and was a wonderfully fun, watchable movie. I’d never tell someone to watch Critters. I’d put Critters 2 in a must-see camp 80s horror comedy festival.
I tried watching "Swing Kids" a few years ago, thought I might learn a little history from it, but it was just silly, especially those professional dancers who seemed more like professional acrobats, who would appear in the dancing sequences. Didn't finish watching.🤮
@@penelopegreene Roger gives lunch a thumbs UP and Gene gives it a thumbs DOWN and they debate how much to tip the waiter / waitress (depending on the type of restaurant they'd frequent).
Didn't Easy A with Emma Stone also comment on how awful the recent version of The Scarlet Letter was!? Man, when both these critics AND a movie made over a decade after its release shit on the same movie, taken altogether THAT'S gospel!!!
@@Daniel-sh3os I can't believe it was actually released through the Criterion Collection. I don't know if it's still in print, but I wasn't exactly lining up for it at Barnes & Noble.
Why would anyone hate Stargate so much? I mean, I could understand a neutral "meh" reaction from someone who couldn't get into it, but is it anywhere even approaching the worst of the worst? I feel like Siskel and Ebert didn't even watch the film, they mischaracterize it so much.
I don’t how any of the actors in Armageddon could say their lines without laughing - the “drama” is so absurd. But not as absurd as Daphne Zuniga playing Mexican!
I know that The Waterboy was a childhood favorite of a lot of 90s babies, but that movie is just awful and I have never actually heard anyone speak badly about the movie, ever. So it was very refreshing to hear the two tear it to shreds.
About the Alan Smithee film in which two characters are named "The Brothers Brothers", that was direct rip from In Living Colour" - Damon and Keenan Wayans played two black singers who turned into the Smothers Brothers - which was hilarious - I'm not sure THIS is.
I miss Siskel & Ebert, even though many films that they gave thumbs down I enjoyed watching them and the ones that they gave thumbs up I hated those films after I watched them. They were the best film critics of all time whether you agreed with them or not on good or bad films.
Armageddon is my default answer for my most hated movie. It insults the intelligence constantly, shows "heroes" in space fighting in complete disregard for how injuries could stop the mission dead, lazily riffs on actual good movies especiall The Right Stuff, and the bombardment of mindless spectacle set the tone for soulless junk blockbusters ever since. Forget Ed Wood, Michael Bay is the worst director because he has resources to make films, and they are absent any crucial sense of humanity - nothing to say, nothing is sacred, characters, 1 dimensional & obnoxious. And oh, the forced sentimentality like a commercial for the American military or something, sickening propaganda style manipulation with every slick production trick in the book. I was dying to leave the theater but stayed because of friends. Ever since though when a movie makes me feat *scummy* like that trash, I get the hell out of there.
So why are they blurring out scenes that played on TV with NO restrictions at all? PG, guys. Come on. Are people so easily triggered? Little mean squeaking goblins are blurred out. Sad.
Just about all movies these days (2023) ar simply one "gimmick" scene after the other. Breaking locks in 5 seconds or less, chase? fight scenes, reacking for the knife/gun, sex scenes, lamenting the past, the moody teenager, the through and through gunshot wounds (painless I might add), etc. I could go on and on....... Almost no originality, just reconstituted "gimmicks" with a different theme/genre. Curious as to how they critiqued The Godfather, or would've said about Fargo, or Sicario, or Saturday Night Fever, and ET ????
I loved Armageddon, as a child, or at least, I remember liking parts of it. I don't think it was until I watched Pulp Fiction, totally, that I realized on some level consciously or sub- that movies could be truly entertaining the entire time, rather than having the parts you kind of just glaze through.
"you know the budget of this movie was 55 million dollars?"
ebert "they must have had some good lunches"
Epic
I miss them. Really do.
@@farrellmcnulty909So do I.
Can’t help wonder what they would say about crappy movies spending $250 million plus for production.
@@thelostone6981 I honestly think both Gene and Roger would be sickened and depressed by what mainstream film has become. Thank God for their legacy of GREAT film criticism and honest, no holds barred reviews. We will never, never see their like again.
Ebert was jealous. He loved a good lunch.
I remember sitting in a movie theater watching Armageddon, parts of the audience are groaning at the lame parts and laughing at the unintentionally funny parts, and then some guy said "Armageddon out of here" and walked out 😂
lmfaoo
I rented it when it first came out on DVD & watched it w/a couple of friends.
The second time I started dozing off, I said _Armagoin2beddin_
"Armageddon out of here" must have been epically funny in the movie theater! I bet a bunch of people laughed!
@@kettle_of_chris I miss those moments, when people used to shout at the screens. Good old times.
The potential for being in a theater with a fun audience was part of the "draw" (or appeal) for me anyway. Seen some average Bond films I remember as great because of the audience. If you were in an audience where at least 1 person had an infectous laugh, that would cause more people to laugh... When I lived in MD some pretty awful films were saved by the comedy genius of a few young black women. (they made us all laugh) anyway I only mention race because the white girls never said anything. @@farrellmcnulty909
@@farrellmcnulty909Yup.
"I'm Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun Times our first movie is called Last Rights and that's exactly what I'd like to administer to this film which is easily the most offensive big budget picture of 1988."
Absolutely killed me.
I'm so grateful for Siskel and Ebert, and the fans that keep them alive with the uploads and compilations.
Listening to these guys hate movies is even better than listening to them love movies.
Big thumbs-ups to their thumbs-downs, eh?
Yup.
they were doing gods work and i wish they were still around
@@pgil13 Same here.
That is the entirety of entertainment content now for "critical" review.
1. Watch movie
2. Complain about movie
3. ???
3. Super Chats!
RIP William Friedkin. I had no idea I was watching this the day after he died.
Yes, God rest him. I haven't seen everything he'd ever done, but The French Connection and The Exorcist were a hell of a one-two punch.
R.I.P.
I love how Roger Ebert unleashed his inner Jay Sherman about that shitty Madonna movie by saying that “it stinks!”. 😂
Yeah, but WHICH shitty Madonna movie? Weren't they all? EDITED I started watching the clip after I posted my comment and yes, Body of Evidence WAS horrible, but I think it was Dafoe's next one after Last Temptation of Christ (another stinky - good actor, Dafoe, but he never had a chance).
With a pickled mind we pick the nipple beer...
‘Madonna in an improvised comedy’
What could possibly go wrong?
@@HkFinn83 Her acting career is what went wrong! Even in A League Of Their Own Madonna was awful in that too.
Hiiiiii guuuuuyyy
Add to the strange decisions made for the Scarlet Letter adaptation the fact that Demi Moore took on an English accent while Gary Oldman dropped his.
I think the believed that his English accent would highlight how terrible her English accent was.
Siskel: You know the budget was 55 million dollars?
Ebert: Then they must have had great lunches.
That made me laugh.
00:00 The Scarlet Letter
03:50 Armageddon
07:57 Critters 2
11:15 Stargate
14:12 Last Rights
18:40 Caligula
19:20 Body of Evidence
22:22 Christopher Columbus: The Discovery
24:55 Staying Alive
28:55 Swing Kids
32:15 The Guardian
35:35 She's Out of Control
39:23 The Waterboy
41:50 Burn Hollywood Burn
44:50 Spice World
47:36 Mad Dog Time
51:05 North
The only ones I've actually seen are Spice World (cute but dumb), Armageddon (*real* dumb), and North (great cast, but dumb).
Thanks
Thanks for the timestamps. Yes, a lot of real dogs in there that quickly disappeared.
Stargate was actually a pretty good movie but only up until the moment they entered the gate, then it became a standard sci-fi action groaner.
Thanks, you've saved me an hour of my life.
Water boy came out when I was 11 and it’s one of the first times I remember feeling legitimately disappointed in a movie I was hyped for. Like, real human disappointment
We lost the weekly Siskel and Ebert show almost 25 years ago and nothing has come close to replacing it. While I didn’t always agree with their reviews, I greatly respected their passion and knowledge of current and past films. Miss these guys
Yup. Replacing them is as hard as replacing Alex Trebec or Bob Barker. Many will try but it’s impossible
@@Grandizer8989 Alex Trebec and Bob Barker have been replaced and it wasn’t that hard. No one has replaced Siskel and Ebert.
@@bartmix8994 those replacements are empty suits compared to Barker and Trebeck
@@bartmix8994 actually it took a long time to replace Alex Trebek, it only took a few weeks to replace Bob Barker
I used to watch Siskel and Ebert. And didn't really like the show when Siskel got replaced.
Diotoir, I'm so happy and thankful you put this together. There's no more fun a movie genre than movies that so horribly bad. It's a shame Siskel and Ebert are no longer with us. How I would love to hear what they would say about the Little Mermaid, Peter Pan and Snow White - NOT the originals, but the slimy ooze seeping out of the sewage pipes at New Millennium Disney.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE LITTLE MERMAID. It was made for kids and for a new generation of people who are open to diversity. It was not made for you, a person comfortable with clichés and stereotypes. Born to only perceive African Americans as mere side characters, where you felt at ease. I'm more of a Siskel and Ebert fan than you ever can think you are, and I assure you, neither of them would have an issue with a mermaid being portrayed by an actress who is black. They wouldn't parrot some politician from Florida or repeat soundbites. They were champions of REPRESENTATION. Especially Ebert and his African American wife. You're not going to magat hat - Siskel and Ebert or wite-wash history to suit your narrow tastes and views of the world just because they are not here to defend themselves. SIT DOWN.
You're complanning about Disney movies?
They worked for Disney so I'm guessing they would have "loved" them.
All of the movies mentioned are no better than guano.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
They would have never survived through the 2010's.
If we didn’t have Armageddon we wouldn’t have the most over-played Aerosmith song ever.
Man I hate that song
Hey, come on now. I almost enjoyed the Blades of Glory rendition.
@@kettitiled Oh my 😑
I liked that moment in the video in which Liv Tyler is caressing a tv monitor with Bruce Willis' face on it, and I wanted to Beavis it "check it out, she's feeling up her DAD!"
@@farrellmcnulty909 😂😂😂
Agree with them or not, Siskel and Ebert stand out from modern critics by being well-versed in film, literature, and story-telling, and thus give concise explanations as to why movies are good or SUCK. Also, that Scarlet Letter movie sound god awful, and the repeated use of “noisy” to describe a Michael Bay movie is so humorously simple while undeniably accurate.
Many movie critics, especially in small market TV stations and newspapers, weren't actually movie critics at all. The popularity of S&E led media outlets to create their own movie review pieces in news, and they were often filled with news writers who took the job because they were re-assigned to it, or for the extra paycheck. I remember a story of a small TV station filled the movie reviewer role with a former weekend weatherman.
Siskel was a fairly astute consumer of cinema.
Ebert was a living breathing "That didn't age well " meme.
His opinions miss the mark with consistant entertainment value.
@@tommc3622 Miss the mark because you personally disagree with them, or because they don't align with critical 'consensus'?
@richardenglish2195 No, because the creative effort of many filmmakers are entirely lost on him. Frequently he couldn't see the forest for the trees.
Even when Gene points out to him what he's missing.
He thought The Thing was a one-dimensional "gross-out" movie.
@@tommc3622He was right about The Thing but movies also exist in a time period and when that time changes, reinterpretations can sometimes resonate better with newer audiences. Another example of that would be "It's A Wonderful Life".
I can't believe Rob Reiner directed that film...smh
tbh it was awesome to watch as an 8 year old in 94
18:40 I think Caligula is the only movie Roger Ebert ever admitted to walking out of before it ended. It was truly offensive.
I guess there's something wrong with me because I honestly thought it was actually a pretty good movie. As twisted as Malcolm McDowell's Caligula was, his actions usually made sense, given the brutal nature of the world he lived in, and the reprehensible people he was surrounded by, in an extremely dark and vengeful comedic way, besides the incest, even though that was actually common with royal families.
@@dangheathen I'm curious about the upcoming new cut that's closer to the vision of thr scriptwriter, meaning the porn parts are mostly removed. They also seem to be animating the parts that weren't filmed.
@@cassia3363 I think it's interesting that the movie is infamous for the point and not the gratuitous violence
S&E are greatly missed. No one has replaced them. I was smart, intelligent TV that at least caused one to think about seeing something. I think sometime the film industry really doesn't want critic(s) of their product, but think they maintain quality of what is produced and avoided viewers being turned off.
One thing I appreciated is that they gave their honest reactions... No concern about not being able to get someone on their podcast or whatever.
I am not sure if you were a smart intelligent TV (probably not because TVs can't type, but they were interesting.
This type of film review, which we found in the written press, has completely disappeared from TV. And is absent from youtube. On RUclips what we find is “I like/dislike” but it’s not film criticism.
Siskel: "Oh, you're going to say something funny now."
Ebert: "This is the first horror movie in which a chainsaw is used against a tree."
Best roast
Saw Armageddon in the theater as a teenager the summer of 1998, and to this day still think it’s one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.
I saw it once in theater too. I will never watch it again.
My Girlfriend and I at the time watched it and were completely stunned that we watched that noise filled mess
We left before the ending it was that bad.
Michael Bay is a criminal.
DC Cab is probably worse. And Showgirls. LoL
Soon after that was Blair Witch Project. People were either hot or cold on that one. Nothing in between.
Stargate had a dumb premise but it works as a brain dead popcorn flick imo.
Yup.
And it launched some good TV
@@missano3856 Well yeah, when you have Macgyver you know it'll work! =)
@standoughope They actually had an episode where when dealing with a piece of non functional alien tech one of them said "maybe we can McGiver it.
@@missano3856 Really? 🤣 That's a fantastic easter egg
Michael Bay is godawful.
Understatement of the year!
@@davidl570Bay has to be the worst but successful director of all time and no actors like him. LoL
@@brian-ld4vd Yeah, tell me about it! NEVER got his appeal.
@@brian-ld4vdhis only good films are bad boys 1 and 2 and the rock 13 hours is pretty good but that's it
I never understood how people my age and even older liked Armageddon. I think that movie is among the worst movies ever made and had assumed only super low I.Q. Remedial learners would find anything to enjoy in it. Man was I shocked when people smart enough to tie their own shoes and who could read and drive liked it. Some of the worst acting, writing, and music use I have ever seen in a major release. ( obviously schlock and B movies not included. )
Pretty bad when a major Hollywood blockbuster is worse than many movies on Best of the Worst. #RedLetterMedia #PepperoniPizzaPiePeepHole
Because some people like things that you don't... Is the concept of subjectivity not something you understand? I don't like that movie, but I've known plenty of people who have. Movies are an art form, art is subjective.
Armageddon was one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen; made for (and by) 13-year-olds. Deep Impact was a classic by comparison.
Sadly, Bay set a precedent of big budgets , big set pieces, and big name actors being able to supersede a total lack of taste, restraint, logic, or common sense in a premise or script.
You sound fun.😊
In Columbus, Marlon Brando looks like he's trying to hide the fact that he's in the movie. (In fact, he later asked to have his name removed from the credits)
"It wants to be like Basic Instinct..but basically just stinks" my main man Roge
Re: The Scarlet Letter, I don’t mind at all if they stray off the novel. The issue is whether in doing so they produce an effective film. Roger addresses this point and makes clear the movie sucks.
He's right. Say Anything is excellent and one of my favorite movies.
The Guardian - "The 1st horror film where a chainsaw is used against a tree." :)
🤣
"..Marlon Brando does *not* look gaunt, as the Grand Inquisitor, Torquemada.."
Gene, you funny guy..
5:26 That "Anybody wanna say no?" line in Armageddon literally gave me douche chills 🥶
Jim Carrey’s imitation of David Caruso had me laughing so hard. The whole, “I taught I taw a pussycat. . . “ thing - from memory that was part of the bit - had me in stitches. But it was doubly funny because he kept standing up and making fun of Caruso over and over. Epic.
Love these two gentlemen, used to watched their show since its inception, they were both incredibly knowledgeable and passionate while reviewing films.
After Gene Siskel passed away, it just wasn’t the same anymore, and while I did not always agree with their analysis, there was never any doubt or questions they firmly believe in it.
I remember the Staying Alive review here. And they were right. Waist up, fast cuts -- terrible dance movie
I really miss these guys. Was one of my favorite shows to watch as I was growing up.
41:00 - So painful Gene Siskel looked and sound at this point. So damn sad.
Agree. He died less than 4 months later.
Rotten Tomatoes would not exist without the influence of these two!
When hearing about Armageddon being strikingly noisy, I wonder what they'd think about modern movies. I stopped going to the Movie Theaters years ago, because when you go to Movie Theaters they have the volume set at 11.
Say Anything is one of my favorite movies. I've seen it at least five times. Excellent movie, plus my crush John Cusack...smile
I miss the days before streaming when a movie would come out and I would tune into Siskel and Ebert and get their take on it. I never missed a show when it was on.
I cant believe how much they hated Stargate. Sheesh. It launched a very successful sci-fi TV series
The TV series was good. The movie was good up until the point they went through the gate, then it became a standard dull sci-fi action film.
@@cnault3244 Standard, dull sci-fi action movie?? What are you talking about?
The show wasn't bad. The movie was incredibly dumb and dull at the same time.
@@HistorysHodgepodge I disagree. Kurt Russell and James Spader are far better actors than any TV actor and it shows in the movie
Regarding Armageddon- Somehow both Gene and Roger were 100% correct
"They can't even lip-synch to their horrible music successfully" lol
Lol Siskel was complaining about Michael Bay, early days...
Never! Never thought I’d see Gary Oldman act bad
That Stargate movie unleashed one of the longest and most successful syndicated TV series franchises.
It’s interesting listening to S&E talk about life being short, and nearly quitting the business because these awful movies are taking hours off your life, then we lose both of them young. A terrible irony.
Good God, how I miss those guys and this show.😢😢😢
Don’t we all. And every damn day I miss reading Ebert’s reviews of new films and new film articles. 🥺😢
Is it just me or would anyone else think that Armageddon is a precursor in the style of action movies today?
Say what you will, Stargate started one hell of a television franchise.
Armageddon is one of the worst movies ever made.
Aerosmith carried it lol
Makes Independence Day look like Star Wars.
@@CyanideSublime I'm glad you mentioned Independence Day. I always mixed these two movies up since they're both bad in the same way, but you're right, Armageddon is definitely the worst.
It was one of the first American films in the Criterion Collection
It wasn't that bad. There are many many more worst movies than that. You probably cried at the end.
I really liked Stargate.
Waterboy was dumb, but had its moments. I still occasionally quote "Foosball is the Devil" or "Captain Insano shows no mercy"
One of the remakes of ‘Brave New World’ was presented Not necessarily a dystopia, if not a dystopia at all. The one with Leonard Nimoy portraying director ‘mind’? It’s a truly great movie, in my opinion.
Ebert wrote one of the worst movies ever. Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
How on earth did they enjoy Critters and pan Critters 2? Critters was just a shit movie. Critters 2 actually swung for the fences and leaned into the absurdity and was a wonderfully fun, watchable movie.
I’d never tell someone to watch Critters. I’d put Critters 2 in a must-see camp 80s horror comedy festival.
These two were snobs. They rarely liked horror films or low brow comedies.
I'm more confused by the Critter clips being all blurred out
@@mjwbulich I think John Waters was one of those who did great lowbrow comedies which were actually funny - just filthy as hell, is all.
I tried watching "Swing Kids" a few years ago, thought I might learn a little history from it, but it was just silly, especially those professional dancers who seemed more like professional acrobats, who would appear in the dancing sequences. Didn't finish watching.🤮
I, as a major history buff, found the movie very good and engrossing, a very serious character study.
Why is the Spice Girls movie blocked?
Staying Alive was a turkey on life support.
i am enjoying the solid pixels that are the movie clips...xD thx for the vid, though!
They must have had some great lunches 😆
They managed to find ways to argue about the food anyways... 😆
Great zinger by Roger on the fade out!
@@penelopegreene Roger gives lunch a thumbs UP and Gene gives it a thumbs DOWN and they debate how much to tip the waiter / waitress (depending on the type of restaurant they'd frequent).
LOL why did u blur out Critters 2? Those scenes are shown in clips on youtube.
My one and only question is "who's doing the writing?"
The problem with these two is that they were UNABLE to review films without ruining the plot.
We just lost Alan Arkin this year, who was in that bomb North.
Such an underrated actor! He's so missed.
Want to see a great movie with Alan Arkin? "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" will make you cry and know that you've seen a great movie.
What would Ebert think of what has been revealed about the monstrous behavior of the Catholic Church in the decades his review of Broken Vows?
they've also done some monstrously great stuff too.
@@jal2550 like what?
Like feed the poor, take care of the sick, charities everywhere, spreading the word of God. Youo know, good shit too.@@AUTOPSY666
They’ve done some great amounts of monstrous stuff.
apart from the less than 1% who fondled kids, what other "Great ammount of Monstrous" things have they done?@@kimkas7779
Didn't Easy A with Emma Stone also comment on how awful the recent version of The Scarlet Letter was!? Man, when both these critics AND a movie made over a decade after its release shit on the same movie, taken altogether THAT'S gospel!!!
"NOT the Demi Moore version!"
It's shame we haven't got film journalists of this calibre on tv today reviewing films.
25 years later I'd love to know what they think of Armageddon now--the ultimate guilty pleasure!
Judging by the clips I'd seen just now, I'd say NO!
I remember coming out of the theater and not sure if it was a parody film and 25 years later, I am still not sure.
@@Daniel-sh3os 😅😅😅😅
@@Daniel-sh3os I can't believe it was actually released through the Criterion Collection. I don't know if it's still in print, but I wasn't exactly lining up for it at Barnes & Noble.
I count several films as guilty pleasures of mine. Armageddon is definitely not one of them, though.
Tom Berenger as a priest? Why does that make me laugh? The Last Temptation of Berenger.
LOL LOL LOL _Last Temptation of Berenger_
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Why would anyone hate Stargate so much? I mean, I could understand a neutral "meh" reaction from someone who couldn't get into it, but is it anywhere even approaching the worst of the worst?
I feel like Siskel and Ebert didn't even watch the film, they mischaracterize it so much.
I don’t how any of the actors in Armageddon could say their lines without laughing - the “drama” is so absurd. But not as absurd as Daphne Zuniga playing Mexican!
Normally I agree with the movies Ebert likes and dislikes.. however, him not liking stargate is wrong that is a good movie.
I recall looking forward to Stargate, I wanted to like it. All I remember is being bored and confused.
I know that The Waterboy was a childhood favorite of a lot of 90s babies, but that movie is just awful and I have never actually heard anyone speak badly about the movie, ever. So it was very refreshing to hear the two tear it to shreds.
I still feel like when critics get something fresh like StarGate. They have no idea what to do with it.
Love these guys!!
Hated their StarGate review. Shouldn’t be treated like trash. Like the other moves they discussed.
About the Alan Smithee film in which two characters are named "The Brothers Brothers", that was direct rip from In Living Colour" - Damon and Keenan Wayans played two black singers who turned into the Smothers Brothers - which was hilarious - I'm not sure THIS is.
Swing Kids vs. The Godfather: better movie?
Swing Kids, and I hate musical dancing films, I enjoyed it because it's based on real history.
Ebert loved "The Last Temptation of Christ", which was also as tasteless as "Last Rites"
"She's Out of Control" sounds truly awful.
I guess Critters 2 was way too graphic for TV audiences
Or was it too graphic for RUclips?
They really weren't ready for Michael Bay 😂😂 Thank God they didn't meet Zack Snyder!!!
I miss Siskel & Ebert, even though many films that they gave thumbs down I enjoyed watching them and the ones that they gave thumbs up I hated those films after I watched them. They were the best film critics of all time whether you agreed with them or not on good or bad films.
6:32 knowing he's most likely dying at that point, that has got to be the worst dis ever..
Armageddon is my default answer for my most hated movie. It insults the intelligence constantly, shows "heroes" in space fighting in complete disregard for how injuries could stop the mission dead, lazily riffs on actual good movies especiall The Right Stuff, and the bombardment of mindless spectacle set the tone for soulless junk blockbusters ever since. Forget Ed Wood, Michael Bay is the worst director because he has resources to make films, and they are absent any crucial sense of humanity - nothing to say, nothing is sacred, characters, 1 dimensional & obnoxious. And oh, the forced sentimentality like a commercial for the American military or something, sickening propaganda style manipulation with every slick production trick in the book. I was dying to leave the theater but stayed because of friends. Ever since though when a movie makes me feat *scummy* like that trash, I get the hell out of there.
Stargate is a terrible movie. Saw it opening day in an empty theater. I wish I saw their review before going.
" That's not far enough for me "....lmbo
North is inexplicable. Astounding. Rob Reiner? Rob Reiner?! The same man who did Spinal Tap and When Harry Met Sally ....let that sink in.
So why are they blurring out scenes that played on TV with NO restrictions at all? PG, guys. Come on. Are people so easily triggered? Little mean squeaking goblins are blurred out. Sad.
My guess is a copyright issue with some films
they can't even lip sync to their own horrible music, that may be my favourite sentence that ebert ever said
The Scarlet Letter? We all read the classic book in Highschool...stick to that. LoL
I kinda want to see The Biz. The concept sounds hilarious
Roger's hatred for "North" is legendary.
North was a letdown of a movie.
North is known to this day as the worst movie Ever Made.
Just about all movies these days (2023) ar simply one "gimmick" scene after the other. Breaking locks in 5 seconds or less, chase? fight scenes, reacking for the knife/gun, sex scenes, lamenting the past, the moody teenager, the through and through gunshot wounds (painless I might add), etc. I could go on and on....... Almost no originality, just reconstituted "gimmicks" with a different theme/genre.
Curious as to how they critiqued The Godfather, or would've said about Fargo, or Sicario, or Saturday Night Fever, and ET ????
Did you know Stargate cost 55 mil... wonder how much that movie would cost today? Ya the CG effects wiuld be cheeper, but the practical... wooo...
I loved Armageddon, as a child, or at least, I remember liking parts of it. I don't think it was until I watched Pulp Fiction, totally, that I realized on some level consciously or sub- that movies could be truly entertaining the entire time, rather than having the parts you kind of just glaze through.
"Marlon Brando, does not look gaunt" LMAO
Siskel's had the black marker pen out for his vestigial hair in a couple of those clips
19. People were not killed in jars see it’s remarks like this that makes me wonder about Siskel and Ebert sometimes.
Updated for the 1990's
And "the success of Star Wars" was 15 years ago.