Siskel & Ebert Review The Films of... Stanley Kubrick
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2023
- As comprehensive as I could make it.
Don't expect anything significant about Barry Lyndon or The Shining.
Special thanks to the RUclips channel Kubrick's Tubes for being a great resource: / @thejnatch
Primarily for educational purposes, but enjoy however you see fit!
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Their back and forth on Full Metal Jacket is a legendary moment.
It is. And when Ebert calls out Siskel and reads him the riot act for pointing out that Ebert gave thumbs up to the Benji movie on the same show as he gave thumbs down to Kubrick it's a searing encapsulation of their professional relationship and you almost break out into applause.
I like 'Full Metal Jacket' slightly more than Ebert does but I do agree with him on the overall lack of originality. I think the coup of the movie and probably at least 90% of the reason it still remains in the memory is that Kubrick made the canny decision of letting the magnetic, former real life DI R. Lee Ermey improvise large swaths of his own dialogue.
Full metal jacket is brilliant. The way the first part of the film(basic training) contrasts with the second part(the actual war) is amazing. In the first part the 2 protagonists are annihilated. Then we are left with the Joker character to take us through the second part which emphasizes the absurdity of war. The poignancy of the young woman being executed and the grim Mickey Mouse chant to close it out. Pure genius. Similar in its absurd fever dream dichotomy to Robert Altman's MASH, but put in the hands of a cinematographic genius.
I saw it back in the day. I was shocked.
It's one of the only times I thought Siskel was right and Ebert was wrong.
Won’t like it in 30 years? 36 years later and is still holds up and quoted. Platoon is great, but FML is at least as good if not better.
Barry Lyndon is so underrated that it's probably not underrated anymore.
It’s the Beyond Good & Evil of movies.
It's a challenging film, very slow paced, but quite possibly Kubrick's absolute masterpiece from a visual perspective. 2001's effects are still mind-blowing but Barry Lyndon is like a beautiful painting.
@@silversnail1413 It's also way funnier than it gets credit for, in a polite and snotty way.
@@scottmelville3476 Agreed. The scene where Sir Charles has a heart attack is morbidly hilarious.
It's just so long people don't get to it.
Ebert’s crack about Ted Turner making the 2001 monolith pink and using it as a desk made me choke on my drink.
Plus the earlier crack about where he was when he saw the 2001 scene: “in a theater.” This video was well edited.
Ditto! I just about spewed coffee all over my monitor. The disdain in that line is classic Ebert!
18:00 it’s insane when he says 2001 is 12 years old. It puts into perspective how old some of these clips are.
Most of Stanley’s movies have to be rewatched to appreciate how great they are
Usually, I disagree with these kinds of takes but it is so so so true. I really didn’t care for The Shining, or Full Metal Jacket, or Dr. Strangelove, OR Eyes Wide Shut on first viewing. They’ve all gone on to become some of my favorites. I just watched 2001 for the first time. I enjoyed it but it didn’t strike me. I just gotta give it another go!
I’ve had mostly the opposite experience with Kubrick films. I loved all of them immediately with the exception of Eyes Wide Shut. Still can’t watch it today. I think Tom Cruise’s overreaching performance has a lot to do with it. But it is true what you say in the sense that the films reveal more and more as you watch them.
@@soravsgoku123 I think the problem with 2001 is we simply “had to be there” when it came out. It was the first of its kind with the visuals (as well as music) but now a days we’ve become so accustomed to this type of stuff some of his stuff almost comes off as cliche. However I still find it to be a masterpiece and was much better on the 2nd watch
I often wonder what Siskel and Ebert would think about current films. I miss them so much.
Siskel talking about the Academy like it's one guy named Oscar is funny as hell.
Loving these compilations that just appear out of nowhere.
There's nobody like Siskel and Ebert anymore.
Maybe Mike and Jay?
@@Segadrome Nope, they're clowns.
Mike and Jay are hack frauds
good.
there's chris stuckmann, yo
Love that there's so much of them talking about Strangelove. Siskel really lit up talking about it.
"Full Metal Jacket isn't going to hold up 30 years from now." It's been 36 years. It's still considered one of the great American war movies. To be fair, this was after a bunch of other Vietnam War movies had come out so I can kind of see why Ebert's opinion would be weighed down. Maybe if he were still around today, he'd revise like he later did with The Shining.
I have looked at quite a number of the Vietnam films. For me, only Platoon holds up and still holds interest. IMO anyway.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for the closed captions. I’m hearing impaired, and the captions really make a difference in my experience. I really enjoy these videos, and the captions makes it even better. So again: thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
Thank you so much for this. I very much miss having these guys around to give us these incisive arguments (or enlightening agreements, depending).
Thank you so much for your hard work. I get much joy and entertainment watching and listening to these compilations 😊Go well ❤
Been waiting for this one! Great job on all these!
It does suck that no materials are available for them discussing THE SHINING or BARRY LYNDON. I know Siskel spoke highly of LYNDON.
You are so right.
I saw a video of them review the shining a long time ago but it’s no longer on RUclips. I just remember them not liking it.
@@rashidapittman8513Likely went something like this: Siskel: I’ve come to expect better from a genius who has revolutionized every genre he’s tried, than to make this mediocre scream flick. Ebert: There’s a lot to like here, but why’s it have to be so darn mean-spirited? If you’re looking for a distressing night out that will have you talking to your shrink the next day, this is the movie for you.
And i say that in the most loving way of course, big Siskel & Ebert fan. 😉
Is it just me or is it weird that Kubrick had to use cameras developed by NASA to make a movie set in the 18th/19th century?
At age 11 in 1979 I was genuinely excited at the prospect of a new episode on PBS, favoring it to virtually any network show at the time.
That was really good- thanks for putting this together.
That Benji the Hunted slam was hilarious.
Great work finding all those clips. Sucks about The Shining though. As a lifelong (half a century) cinephile, I really enjoy this series. Keep 'em coming!
Love how Ebert says perverts and then it cuts to the Clintons
What is it with Americans being stuck fast on political shit?
Great compilation, thank you. Hope we get another filmmaker like Kubrick someday.
Thanks for collating all these!
The Shining - yes, you are 100% correct. Ebert disliked it, so did Leonard Maltin. When I saw it back in the 90s on a crappy VHS transfer I didn't think much of it either, but now it's one of my favorite films.
I appreciate this series. Thanks!
The black and white Benji insert made me laugh lol!
I love the comment about Neil Armstrong saying 2001:A Space Odyssey is his favorite space film. This could be seen as ironic by the many people who are convinced Kubrick helped fake the 1969 moon landing footage. I am not one of those people.
Paths of glory is the most magnificent film with the most incredible acting .
Love it, How about an Orson Welles compilation?
Looking into it!
Where is Kubrick now when you need him. His films were always the best form of escapism. What's better than to escape the current realities of the world.
Guess I'll have to carve out a couple of hours for Dr. Strangelove. Never seen it.
Funniest movie of all time. That and Spinal Tap are the only two that have me smiling or laughing all the way through.
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If nothing else, it's one of the all-time great movie performances, with Peter Sellers masterfully morphing into multiple characters without needing to make any of them into flat-out caricatures.
My favorite Kubrick film. I hope tou enjoy it.
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I watched the documentary on Kubrick last year.. I wish there was more!!!! Couldnt stop watching... go find it!
I love it when they sincerely argue - that's awesome...
We don't need to say in response to the claim that "Kubrick was cold" that he was "elusive". He is no more elusive than a mountain, or a cloudy day on a Sunday afternoon, or the ocean or the moon, or an old stone sculpture. These things aren't cold, or elusive, they are right there before us and the very stuff of our deep and direct contemplation. If people think they are cold then that's how they perceive them. We don't need apologetics. Hell, Kubrick is about elusive as a pint of Guinness.
I have never understood the negativity towards A.I. IMO it is one of the very best films of the century and Ebert later felt the same way. A lot of people think the ending was tacked on by Spielberg, but that was actually Kubrick’s idea all the way through. And it’s marvelous.
We all make mistake Ebert - Full Metal Jacket still holds up! Not only my opinion but my neighbours too.
thank your for posting this!
Fascinating that the consensus has almost completely reversed on Full Metal Jacket and Platoon since release.
52:00 Scorcese reviewing Eyes Wide Shut is very interesting. Many people think Kubrick based EWS on Scorceses After Hours. Many similarities between the two movies.
I would argue that Lynch saw After Hours a time or two before Blue Velvet as well.
That Ted Turner reference was accurate.
24:47 Ebert's response here is so sassy lol
Thank you for making these videos
I can't imagine the world of the cinema without 2001 A Space Odyssey.
It’s actually quite easy to do and is very pleasant. If there was no 2001: A space odyssey, there would be no fu**ing Star Wars and with no Star Wars there would be no Marvel Movies which would be blissful and the world would be filled with less dullards
@@totallybored5526 There's more of the classic WW2 serials, Flash Gordon, and Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress in Star Wars then any trace of 2001's existentialist wonder.
24:55 Brilliant zinger from Ebert!
Thanks for the credit
Roger refers to seeing a movie on a laser disk. This is a real time machine.
Interesting timing with Barry Lyndon himself dying today.
This oughtta be good.
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Did they do Paths of Glory? Cause that was a masterpiece
13:22 It turned out that the obvious choice should have been Lolita.
Every Kubrick movie since 2001 got bad reviews the WEEK it came out.
Cut to decades later, they're all hailed as masterpieces.
Ebert was really behind the curve on Full Metal Jacket.
HUGE!
I just discovered your channel and I want to first thank you for spending your time and energy putting all these videos of top directors together. However, can you please explain why you have ignored in my opinion, one of the greatest American film directors, since the 70s, Robert Altman? I knew decades ago that Altman would be forgotten, as his films are simply too difficult, plotless, naturalistic and, well, free style. Just as Jazz is less popular in our society than classical, rock, country and many more music forms today. Just curious why he is not represented here? Actually, nor is my second favorite director, Michael Mann. What gives?
Altman's coming asap. These can be very time consuming to make sometimes, is all. Especially since I started making them as comprehensive as possible, which has made me want to upgrade the old ones
I have a couple near complete I've been sitting on, and a shortlist of ones to get to asap, which includes Altman
Stay tuned!
@@Vanilla_Skynet Thanks for replying so quickly! That’s good news! Yes. I can imagine the work necessary to produce these, and I am grateful that you take time out of your life to work on them.
⏰ 🍊 & Dr. S the Best!
Gene Siskel knows the truth - Dr Strangelove is the most greatest movie at all times
Platoon MAY have been better than FMJ but i honestly can't remember it...Ill give it some thought the next dozen times I watch the latter.
Kubrick was one of a kind. He used to say he did so many takes because actors were famously underprepared and it took a hundred takes for them to actually get past learning the lines and actually acting. This is of course bullshit. He made Scatman Crothers, an actor who was famously bow legged with bad knees do 72 takes of walking up some stairs. It took hours. The editor told me this story and said that Kubrick ended up using the first take. OCD is real. And when it’s paired with a megalomaniacal auteur, you can get genius or you can get your knees ruined.
The Kubrick films I liked the most were 2001, Paths of Glory and Full Metal Jacket.
I actively disliked Clockwork and never saw The Shining. I just don't care for gratuitous violence and horror.
Strangelove was an education as well. I was interested to see what a B52 nuclear attack might look like. "Negative Function."
List of good Kubrick films:
1. The Shining.
24:40 Ebert's opinion on 2001 must have been influenced by Pauline Kael since he first reviewed on camera in the late 70's lol
www.rogerebert.com/reviews/2001-a-space-odyssey-1968
The Roger Ebert original review of "Full Metal Jacket" is the worst review I have ever heard. I saw this live when it came out - having seen the film - and I thought it was ridiculous
I watched this growing up...forgot how funny and insightful this duo was...thank you for this.
I am Spartacus.
S _ U _ P _ E _ R _ B ! ~ A true treat for all Kubrick fans. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Thank you!
Boy were the critics wrong (purposely?) about Eyes Wide Shut... fiction? fantasy? ha! lol
They called it an erotic thriller didn’t they? I mean, it’s not thrilling and it’s not erotic, but it’s an erotic thriller in the same way Full Metal Jacket is a war movie.
Personally i thought it’s the worst film he ever made, but i know not everyone agrees 😂
it really depends on your worldview which then completely alters your understanding of this movie. For example, when i saw this movie in 1999 vs watching it again in 2020, it was like two different movies for me. At least, my understanding of it changed. It might not be his best film, but it is definately his most important work@@sub-jec-tiv
52:24 Agreed.
How in the hell do you omit Barry Lyndon?
I don’t think they ever reviewed it on the show
Ok but a clockwork orange is actually the best movie
Dr Strangelove!….Peter Sellers absolute genius!
Interesting Ebert found Platoon better than Full Metal Jacket. Couldn’t disagree more.
Almost everybody found Platoon better than Full Metal Jacket at the time.
Spartacus was hampered by Kirk Douglas who was way too old to play a virile gladiator/revolutionary.
Siskel looked bad during that Lolita review. I guess his illness was already affecting him by that point.
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Benji The Hunted is the best outta the 3 or 4 Benji films & Full Metal Jacket is atleast second best of Stanley Kubrick films wether u like 2001 or Clockwork or The Shining!!!! I honestly enjoy watching FMJ more times yearly than those other three but they are all masterpieces so its kinda opinionated when it comes to his top four films that everyone loves
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I really think full metal jacket is overrated. Especially the movie after boot camp. I liked it, didn’t love it. I’m surprised it has such a following.
I think the bootcamp section is overrated,although I still love it. One of my favourite war films for that second act specifically.
@@jj80808 wow, you had just the opposite reaction to mine. I think the boot camp sequence is the better part. I agree with Roger on this one, the city fighting part was a bit cliche. I didn’t hate it, but didn’t love it either.
@@QuintTheSharker that's the general consensus, even people who rank this as one of their favourite films usually say its for the first half but 1) I've seen it way too much growing up and 2) I think the city setting gives it a unique vibe compared to most nam films and 3) I do agree alot of the dialogue is cliche and cheesy but I'm pretty certain that's the point. Not to sound pretentious but I really doubt kubrick would put in the film crew and the 'is that you John Wayne,is this me?' line in there twice without reason. Nor do I imagine he'd put Animal Mother's introduction in without a hint of irony,even as a preteen I remember laughing at the "you talk the talk,do you walk the walk" line, but I adore the atmosphere of that second half,from the opening scene with these boots right to the end with the micky mouse clubhouse song,there's just as many tense scenes as there is humour,I suppose like the first half but near enough all of the humour is from Lee's phenomenal drill instructor lines. I love the film, although it isn't even top 5 kubrick for me, but if I was to rewatch it now I honestly feel like I'd just be waiting for the second half to start.
I'm happy it's more appreciated now than it was even 15 years ago, but I do agree with you that for the time the first act was a more unique cinematic experience than when they're actually in Vietnam, but that's almost a certainty by then,no? The personal character study had been done with apocalypse now and the on the front line "accurate" nam film had been done with platoon,I can't think of any unique nam films after FMJ and I used to watch those types of films religiously.
Sorry for the essay, but been a nice discussion,maybe if you watch the film specifically for the first half dozens of times before turning it off like I did you'll appreciate the second half slightly more hahaha
@@jj80808 it’s funny you say that it’s more of a parody almost of war films, since in the documentary “Kubrick’s Boxes” one of his assistants read a memo from Stanley to one of his writers telling them to “include utter banalities”. You can definitely see and hear those throughout the movie.
I think the issue I have with the second half is that it’s trying to hard to make that point. It’s very much like Kubrick for the storyline to be just that, and the deeper meanings are between the lines, but for this one I just don’t think it works like it does in his other movies. I did think the “surfin bird” sequence was pretty good, but that’s about it other than the sniper getting that black dude. That was pretty well done.
@@QuintTheSharker that's fair, though it might also explain why the film has the following it does, to your original point. 2001 is remembered for being revolutionary in sfx and storytelling but that's why it's like the citizen kane of Sci-fi films in that regard(i.e it was so innovative and important it MUST be remembered and well regarded), Barry Lyndon is my favourite kubrick but I put off watching it for years because all the talk of it being so slow and boring,really...what other film of his is likely to appeal to a mass audience more than fmj besides to those who take the technical aspects of film more seriously? The killing? Most people now hate that 60s and before style of acting alone never mind refusing to watch a b&w film(sad reality but it is reality) eyes wide shut? Maybe,if people don't go in expecting a steamy thriller but I still think full metal jacket has the most wide-audience-appeal of all his films.
I think the other film of his with this big/devoted a following is clockwork orange honestly, and it's strange to think that is(or was) considered one of the biggest cult films ever and it was by fkn KUBRICK of all people lol
Maybe sparticus although I guarantee you kubrick would rather be remembered for full metal jacket than that film.
They’re dead wrong on AI. The sentimentality is what takes it to a stratospheric level in both the history of cinema and in Kubrick’s oeuvre. How can they discuss it as a take on the story of pinocchio without appreciating the sadness of the futility of his desire to be a real boy? Rosenbaum is a better film critic.
One of the important things about Siskel & Ebert is that they allow you to triangulate with your own point of view. If you have seen their show 5-6 times and seen some of the movies and have your own opinions… it then becomes a snap to know if you’ll like one of the movies they review. Because you know where your own taste diverges from Siskel, and where it diverges from Ebert. I might not agree with everything they say, but that doesn’t make them bad critics, it means they’re the type of critic who doesn’t go long, and look at everything dispassionately. They admit they have taste, and they’re not making absolute judgments; which is part of the structure and conceit of putting them together on a single show.
I agree with you on AI.
"It is great to have a movie fan in the White House"
Uhh, Gene, you're only four years removed from a POTUS who acted opposite Errol Flynn twice and was the President of the Screen Actor's Guild.
How many reviews of 2001 do you need? Quit watching after the 3rd one
It's just... astonishing and depressing how the contemporary discourse seems so juvenile in comparison. The artistry? That's mostly gone, along with all the other adults in the room.
There's some naivete as well (the Clinton dick-riding) but it's the naivete of experienced adults, not simply that of youth.
Ranking of my favorite Kubrick films...
1. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
2. The Shining (1980)
3. Full Metal Jacket (1987)
4. Dr. Strangelove (1964)
5. Paths Of Glory (1957)
6. The Killing (1956)
7. Lolita (1962)
8. Barry Lyndon (1975)
9. Eyes Wide Shut (1999)
10. Spartacus (1960)
11. 2001 A Space Odyssey (1968)
12. Killer's Kiss (1955)
13. Fear & Desire (1952)
((No short films included))
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Bullshit. I was looking forward to Barry Lyndon
these guys never unsderstud the movies. odyssey 2001 kubrick shows the obelisk to the men and after that they started to eat others and they commit the first killing by ego in the lake ,... kubrick shows the duality. read the true meaning of the obelisk.
Well said. I mean, just remarkable.
Siskel's arrogance...honestly
The second version of "Lolita" is a p.o.s. The first---even with all the possible objections---is an artistic work.
I disagree, the newer Lolita follows the book closer and it’s a really great film.
@@AlexSzell Those British t.v. adaptations known state-side as Masterpiece Theatre are also close to the books they adapt and are all cinematically worthless. Including every last piece of dialogue and every single plot twist does not equate to creating a work of art.
Technically, Kubrick was one of the greats. However, his great failing was his lack of warmth regarding his characters. Even in his best films, the actors feel like they are incidental players that are mere victims of Kubrick's grand design. I saw Barry Lyndon for the first time recently and it was great but you get no real emotional pull.
Who decided that movies needed to be about people or emotions? A great painting doesn't need to portray people. Great music doesn't need to use a singer.
Have you watched his films? They do involve people, typically suffering, in some way and sometimes they go completely out of their minds. Again, the problem is, Kubrick keeps it all at arm's length, he makes it all cold and impersonal. You marvel at the design, the technical prowess, but you don't feel anything and art, above all, is about FEELING something. I don't feel much when I see a Kubrick movie but I do get blown away by the design of his works. He was great filmmaker but he isn't one of my all time favorites.
@@ricardocantoral7672 Quite a condescending first sentence you wrote there. I suggest you go watch his films again because you haven't yet figured them out.
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I was responding to your weak argument. You said that films don't have to be about characters or emotions and I have seen those films. There were Kubrick works that were CLEARLY about the characters but the emotional distance from them was the weakness of those pictures in general. I also argue as much regarding his films but that weren't character driven films but ones that were commenting on the human condition like Strangelove and 2001. They aren't bad by any means, they are brilliant actually, but there is that lack of humanity.
I also think it's laughable that you honestly think I can't understand Kubrick. He was a commercial, narrative driven director. I have seen far more complex works from Tarkovsky, Bergman, Bresson, James Benning, Peter Hutton, guys who completely threw narrative out the window.
@@ricardocantoral7672 yeah, i've watched his films and they're lacking in nothing if you're not a bathos obsessed needy pants.
Full crappy movie. Mr. Ebert is exactly right.
I disagree with siskel at all times
Google "2001" -- The Monolith and the Message for a classic Roger Ebert essay from 1968 where he attempts to explain 2001 to the audience members who didn't get it. Lots of amusing anecdotes of him observing other people in the theater trashing the movie. As for The Shining, Siskel trashed it on its release and gave it 2 stars out of 4. I have yet to see any evidence that Ebert ever reviewed The Shining at the time of its release. Oddly enough, Ebert didn't review The Empire Strikes Back in 1981 either, which came out on the same day as The Shining. I can only assume he was on vacation at that time and someone else had to review the movies for the Sun-Times.
18:30 Ebert admits he has never been to space
I love RLM but Mike and Jay agree too much, hopefully when they get a little older they will get a little meaner too!
Kubrick movies are just terrible
Are there NONE of his that you like?
You have TERRIBLE taste