Every time I see this game, I can't help but think of Ratchet and Clank because of the nice cartoony graphics and the humor, and that just makes me want this game even more.
I can't wait for this game. With all this customization i can only imagine the nightmare it would be to have anything fun with a cash shop model. Thank you so much for going the sub route so we can actually use all this awesome stuff.
I think the sub model is a better deal for players and devs alike. This way the company gets a steady stream of money and they are incentivized to keep developing the game instead of focusing on shop gimmicks.
TheOzumat Unless the devs are Disney. Look up Pirates of the Caribbean Online. Success at launch. Disney never made up to any of theirs promises. When the game went half a year ago, it wasn't even noticed because it went that dark with a lack of updates. Everyone left it because it got boring and they got sick of Disney's broken promises and lazy arsed everything. On the other hand, I've never seen a lazier MMO company than Disney. So the sub model will probably be like you described.
Whenever I see these Dev-speak videos, I tells me that the developers of Wildstar made this game for fun. They simply just wanted to make a video game. The developers did an amazing job.
For anyone who hasn't taken the time to read the disclaimers in all of the Dev Speaks, I highly suggest you do. It goes to show the humor being put into this game. I've never had so much fun following a games dev process, soooo good.
Joseph Ellis check out the twitch channel for wildstar fans , a guy called anhrez has an amazing crafting guide. Best thing about wilstar crafting is gone are the days of spending half you crafting time refining ore to ingots an so forth,
Joseph Ellis The other great thing about crafting is the coordinated crafting system. Gone is the system where you use a guide and hit max level. Its going to be hard to form a proper guide the way the crafting system in this game is implemented and thats a great thing.
Harry S There are also crafting talent points which u gain by unlocking crafting tiers which u can use to specialize ur craft(each craft has a different talent tree). And as odd as this may sound, just because you maximize ur craft doesnt mean u will have all the recipes. You have to go through a tiered layout to unlock talent points and will involve stuff from pvp /exploration and endgame to unlock talents for crafting.
***** I got to play the Beta as well :) They did have a decent amount of face customization, but when it came to body types they only allowed you to pick one out of a few presets. I'd rather have full body type customization, with sliders or something, especially if I'm paying for it, y'know?
***** Yeah you're right! :) Though sadly the game lagged a lot for me and I couldn't really get used to the combat, so I'm not 100% sold, but we'll see how it goes!
Man I wish I Had a Strong Enough PC to play this game. Love MMO's that have Customization, especially on stats. Hope this Game stays Alive when i do get a stronger PC.
This game!! Customization has to be my favorite part of ANY game! Good work Carbine! I really loving the creativity and effort adding to this game! I can't wait till it's playable!
I am an old wow veteran and will probably remain one for a while because I love the story and lore, but I think I'll jump constantly between these two due to these features and the overall setting of wildstar
Really I am going to have so much fun with this thing. I like my options and you guys appear to be giving a lot of them. If I may give my own Fussy Pants Desire, as I am not sure where the best place to do that I figure I would do it here (and Facebook), would be buffs and account/server wide interactions and benefits between the various characters I play on Wildstar similar to the Legacy system that Star Wars the Old Republic has. Like if I get one class up max level, that get's me a buff or some reward that I can access with my other characters. Or perhaps being able to access the house decorations on all my characters (cause who wants to have to collect the same thing over and over on different characters) or maybe having the option of having all my characters live on the same house. (at the very least, one of Exiles and one for Dominion.) Another thing perhaps, depending how it works, is having my Soldier Path guy being able to see the data that my Scientist Path guy collects. Or my Explorer being able to use some of the structures my Settler builds. I love it when one is rewarded for having different characters like this and I think this kind of game would work great for having a character wide Legacy type system.
I see everyone talking about height options for characters, but I think the various heights fit the races. Besides, imagine if you could adjust the height of a Chua to that of a Drakken or Cassian. All I can think, picturing that, is "We called him old Weird Harold because he was 6'1'', weighed 50 pounds. We used to use him to get the football out of the sewer." - Bill Cosby.
I would prefer to make beigger impact on how the characters walk. They should be a bit more heavier to feel that there is gravity, and that your character weights properly to its size. Add some animations on the ground while landing after jump + a small sound effect. You know, something like this could be great and it could improve the overall feeling of the character you play. When I played the closed beta, I felt like my character doesn't weight anything and when I was walking, I had the feeling that the character walks by itself. I also felt like the characters move a little bit too quickly while normal walking. Could be great, if you could have a look at what I wrote. Maybe you will get to the same point and you decide to make some changes to the walking. Greetings! Fingers Crossed for Wildstar! It's the only hope of MMO RPG games for me.
Ha... this game... it launched when I started to work, couldn't pass the time I wanted on. And finally had to quit because of my new life. Was heartbreaking to see it was not getting the love it deserves from gamers, slowly decayed to a F2P (which was descent) and finally close servers... wish the devs and rest of the team found great job after, because damn they are talented!
Just as I was getting angry enough to moan about the lack of new info. Then you tease me with this! God damnit Carbine, you really know what you're doing with this hype.
not really , in the closed beta for both and eso is far better , don't even play my closed beta for wild-star anymore really, just wow with better combat.
0:53 Did I see bat wing ears among the Aurin options? God I love all the character options. The aurin seem like they have a lot of very neat different animal traits to choose from. Very eager to see what all the other races have in terms of options in comparison.
HOLY CRAP that's a lot of customisation! It'd take me hours just to get my character to look how I'd want it to. And then I'd dread the day I'd want to change it up or start a 2nd character. But still, I SOO can't wait for the full release of this game. It's going to be awesome.
This game looks amazing. I have been looking forward to this for a few years now. Please don't listen to the mob, and rush things out the door. This game will be great. It's clear you all have put a lot of love into this, and it shows. I can't wait to explore Nexus.
Going off of what I've seen from other peoples posts on character customization specifically, I can't say that I'm very impressed...and not for the reasons you think!! It's not that the character customization is too weak or anything, but that the templates and faces they give are too strong. Even though they have the sliders and everything, the faces already have such defining features and strong character that there is very little left to make "your own." Even though the sliders help, unless drastic steps in plastic surgery are taken, the toon is just going to be a rehash of the same face...the original character is just going to continually bleed through. In this case, you've done too good a job Carbine, your toons are too distinctive.
Love your Dev Speak's, Frost's voice is silky smooth, like a baby's bottom smooth! Keep up the good work. Volume is really low on this one? Please help!
In all seriousness though on the business model. I know you guys are getting all hot about going subscription and all but with this level of customization have you thought at all about the workshop and a model like TF2's? Not necessarily free to play but Sell the base software, include tools for people to make and submit custom cosmetics to something like the Steam Workshop, if chosen it gets added to a cash shop, the person who makes it gets a cut of the sales. Just a suggestion.
Usual work of brilliance. Is there equipment visual customisation like in DC universe online/ city of villains(personal faves) or even the transmute from wow, or even an EQ2 appearance item page(overwrites the visuals of the worn item without a stupid secondary crafting/consumable requirement) .
I am practically married to WoW. First MMO I've ever played since it came out. I see this game and I'm actually debating on making a switch. I'm beyond impressed with what these guys are doing with this game.
I wonder how would Robbaz would decorate his armor, probably with tassle and viking helmet. Since he planned to play a granok, he would make the exile look "greyer".
all the costomization is nice but will there be any presets and buy gear in a way that you don't have to do everything yourself, for the people who don't want to micromanage every little thing of your gear and all....
How much will wildstar's lore going to related to the scientist path? i really want the background of the game to be accessible in game no mater what the path of my character is, because i personally love to explore the games environment and find out what all happened in the area I'm in while still exploring... a menu button with a lore book that updates after you complete and exploration feature or a quest or some in game objective would be AWESOME!
That music is perfect. Also: Lots...Of...CUSTOMIZATION! I love it! Customization is awesome and this will be awesome. This game better become the best MMORPG ev0r.
Question for customization: Can an engineer customize his drones to not look robotic? I guess what I really want to know is, can we customize the flavor of the class beyond the typical talent trees and stat point allocation? Can i make all my abilities look like they have fireworks coming off of them? Can I make my footprints look icey? can i make my breath come out in bubbles? etc etc.
Nergal134 Funny you should say that. They actually designed it to be that way. A few of the developers were huge animal crossing fans, so that's why the housing feature is as robust as it is. I'm not sure but in an interview I'm almost positive someone (I think Stephen frost) said "the housing content can stand alone as it's own game"
All right. All right. Devs, if you are listening. Prove it. I wanna see stockings/thigh highs. Give us Zettai Ryouiki (you're all big boys, you can google it). Only then will I believe it.
BODEH TIEYP CUSTOMIZAAAATIIIONNSSS!!! BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME PHYSICAL BUILD! I want my Grannok to be able to have a beer belly. Or 'The Bolder' as he'd call it!
aaaaaand... we are back OVER hyped:D! finly saw a glimp of warplots. after a very funny disclaimerXD realy shaking for beta:O! any details that can tell us when you gonna launch!!??
If Wildstar agrees to implement a music system like that of Starbound, LOTRO etc.. Then I would be 100% on board! After playing beta a few days the games unique charm and classes ( and humor) have won me over... not even level 10 yet!
Teso announced a spring release pretty much at the same time Wildstar made the same announcement. Still no set date from Wildstar.. I have a feeling a spring release might not happen. Guess ill just preorder Teso and wait patiently.
i see when you change skills you have to change out everything manually, is it possible to get 4 or 5i sh presets you can make so you don't have to micromanage each time you want to change spec?
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Every time I see this game, I can't help but think of Ratchet and Clank because of the nice cartoony graphics and the humor, and that just makes me want this game even more.
so true
I didn't see Ratchet and Clank on TV but Wildstar reminds me Earthworm Jim.
my thoughts exactly, cartoony graphics for a game over boring realistic ones anyday!
I can't wait for this game. With all this customization i can only imagine the nightmare it would be to have anything fun with a cash shop model. Thank you so much for going the sub route so we can actually use all this awesome stuff.
Heya Sethisto. I sent ya a private message.
Sethisto
I was like you too, but after i heard that it will have the classic subscription model, i got scared.
Trust me Telkor, this game will be will worth it.
I think the sub model is a better deal for players and devs alike. This way the company gets a steady stream of money and they are incentivized to keep developing the game instead of focusing on shop gimmicks.
TheOzumat Unless the devs are Disney. Look up Pirates of the Caribbean Online. Success at launch. Disney never made up to any of theirs promises. When the game went half a year ago, it wasn't even noticed because it went that dark with a lack of updates. Everyone left it because it got boring and they got sick of Disney's broken promises and lazy arsed everything.
On the other hand, I've never seen a lazier MMO company than Disney. So the sub model will probably be like you described.
Whenever I see these Dev-speak videos, I tells me that the developers of Wildstar made this game for fun. They simply just wanted to make a video game. The developers did an amazing job.
I am addicted to watching Wildstar content... I mean I am watching BogOtter for god's sake! Open that beta Frost!
I seriously need this game right now...
Aaaaaa... I've been extremely excited for Wildstar for over a year now, and with this video I'm even more hyped than ever before.
Awesome :)
Audio in this vid was quite low though, a bit
difficult to understand if it's not dead silent.
For anyone who hasn't taken the time to read the disclaimers in all of the Dev Speaks, I highly suggest you do. It goes to show the humor being put into this game. I've never had so much fun following a games dev process, soooo good.
This. Is. Awesome. I can't wait to play it :D
Let us play already !!
i just cant wait anymore, WILDSTAR
get the beta key
oh damn i applied for one is it really hard to get it
I want an in depth video analysis of crafting! :3
An hour long Gameplay Crafting video? I'm all in!
Joseph Ellis
check out the twitch channel for wildstar fans , a guy called anhrez has an amazing crafting guide. Best thing about wilstar crafting is gone are the days of spending half you crafting time refining ore to ingots an so forth,
Excellent, thank you very much!
Joseph Ellis
The other great thing about crafting is the coordinated crafting system. Gone is the system where you use a guide and hit max level. Its going to be hard to form a proper guide the way the crafting system in this game is implemented and thats a great thing.
Harry S
There are also crafting talent points which u gain by unlocking crafting tiers which u can use to specialize ur craft(each craft has a different talent tree). And as odd as this may sound, just because you maximize ur craft doesnt mean u will have all the recipes. You have to go through a tiered layout to unlock talent points and will involve stuff from pvp /exploration and endgame to unlock talents for crafting.
Everytime Wild Star Videos pop up in my recommendations, I get really sad.
Same. I hope we get a private server one day soon.
Body Type Customization?
*Body Type Customization.*
Make it a thing, please!! :)
YES YES YES!
***** I got to play the Beta as well :) They did have a decent amount of face customization, but when it came to body types they only allowed you to pick one out of a few presets. I'd rather have full body type customization, with sliders or something, especially if I'm paying for it, y'know?
***** Yeah you're right! :) Though sadly the game lagged a lot for me and I couldn't really get used to the combat, so I'm not 100% sold, but we'll see how it goes!
Man I wish I Had a Strong Enough PC to play this game.
Love MMO's that have Customization, especially on stats.
Hope this Game stays Alive when i do get a stronger PC.
YESSSSSSSSSSS!! I can't wait for this game!! Open beta can only be so far away for those of us who haven't gotten in closed yet :/
MOUNT CUSTOMIZATION?
ok, you went from tempting to addicting xD
This game!! Customization has to be my favorite part of ANY game! Good work Carbine! I really loving the creativity and effort adding to this game! I can't wait till it's playable!
I am an old wow veteran and will probably remain one for a while because I love the story and lore, but I think I'll jump constantly between these two due to these features and the overall setting of wildstar
You guys never stop cracking me up lol love you Carbine!
The mounts look beautiful oAo
Especially that green raptor, kudos to the mount guys!
"SIGN UP FOR BETA!"
IF ONLY I COULD GET IN!
Oh boy, I can relate... I've been signed up since March of 2013 and still no luck. T__T
ItsMrWats0n in the same boat bro i
MOUNT CUSTOMIZATION!!!!!
I really can't until spring now. This game has been on my mind a lot recently. I'm dying to play it!
This video alone got you +1 subscription point to WildStar.
What's with the volume on this vid?
Forget the bowl of Ramen on the Hamster Ball. Hats on Raptor mounts? DO WANT.
this game just turned into team fortress XD
TheRyanthecool You say that like it's a bad thing...
Really I am going to have so much fun with this thing. I like my options and you guys appear to be giving a lot of them.
If I may give my own Fussy Pants Desire, as I am not sure where the best place to do that I figure I would do it here (and Facebook), would be buffs and account/server wide interactions and benefits between the various characters I play on Wildstar similar to the Legacy system that Star Wars the Old Republic has. Like if I get one class up max level, that get's me a buff or some reward that I can access with my other characters. Or perhaps being able to access the house decorations on all my characters (cause who wants to have to collect the same thing over and over on different characters) or maybe having the option of having all my characters live on the same house. (at the very least, one of Exiles and one for Dominion.) Another thing perhaps, depending how it works, is having my Soldier Path guy being able to see the data that my Scientist Path guy collects. Or my Explorer being able to use some of the structures my Settler builds. I love it when one is rewarded for having different characters like this and I think this kind of game would work great for having a character wide Legacy type system.
I'm a customization FREAK !!! and i love this !! take my money !!!!!!!!
I see everyone talking about height options for characters, but I think the various heights fit the races. Besides, imagine if you could adjust the height of a Chua to that of a Drakken or Cassian.
All I can think, picturing that, is "We called him old Weird Harold because he was 6'1'', weighed 50 pounds. We used to use him to get the football out of the sewer." - Bill Cosby.
Outstanding customization options, very good!
You just made my pants one size smaller. Awesome devspeak this week!
I would prefer to make beigger impact on how the characters walk. They should be a bit more heavier to feel that there is gravity, and that your character weights properly to its size. Add some animations on the ground while landing after jump + a small sound effect. You know, something like this could be great and it could improve the overall feeling of the character you play.
When I played the closed beta, I felt like my character doesn't weight anything and when I was walking, I had the feeling that the character walks by itself. I also felt like the characters move a little bit too quickly while normal walking.
Could be great, if you could have a look at what I wrote. Maybe you will get to the same point and you decide to make some changes to the walking.
Greetings! Fingers Crossed for Wildstar! It's the only hope of MMO RPG games for me.
Wouldn't it be better to post this on the beta forums perhaps? I doubt many of the developers will be looking at youtube comments for beta feedback :)
Ha... this game... it launched when I started to work, couldn't pass the time I wanted on. And finally had to quit because of my new life. Was heartbreaking to see it was not getting the love it deserves from gamers, slowly decayed to a F2P (which was descent) and finally close servers... wish the devs and rest of the team found great job after, because damn they are talented!
This game... when I first saw it I was like nah, but about 10 seconds into reading more I was like yah!
Also the humor really sold me
So much customization, Finally a company that understands its smart to have a lot of that out-of-the-gate.
This is the most complete MMO in years and years.It has everything at Release, HOLY SHIT!
I love this kind of clips and I love the way the game is taken
Okay now I want a video all about the crafting system as it looks pretty crazy :)
What about customized beta key for me? :D
THE HYPE IS BACK
can't wait to get off work and go home and play in the stress test this weekend!
I saw the ramen bowl on the sphere bike thing and was all like WHAAAA!? so awesome
HYPE ! Moar BETA plz
AWESOME! Now PLEASE RELEASE IT
OMFG Goodbye WoW subscription, Hellow Wildstar subscription.
Just as I was getting angry enough to moan about the lack of new info. Then you tease me with this!
God damnit Carbine, you really know what you're doing with this hype.
Wow.. Never seen mount customization before. That's new and I like!
Looks awesome. Just wondering how it will be to play using the mouse to move my character. Looks like a lot of strafing and such.
This game just looks better and better, much better than ESO
not really , in the closed beta for both and eso is far better , don't even play my closed beta for wild-star anymore really, just wow with better combat.
0:53 Did I see bat wing ears among the Aurin options? God I love all the character options. The aurin seem like they have a lot of very neat different animal traits to choose from. Very eager to see what all the other races have in terms of options in comparison.
HOLY CRAP that's a lot of customisation! It'd take me hours just to get my character to look how I'd want it to. And then I'd dread the day I'd want to change it up or start a 2nd character. But still, I SOO can't wait for the full release of this game. It's going to be awesome.
nice, cant wait for more Devspeaks
This game looks amazing. I have been looking forward to this for a few years now. Please don't listen to the mob, and rush things out the door.
This game will be great. It's clear you all have put a lot of love into this, and it shows. I can't wait to explore Nexus.
Going off of what I've seen from other peoples posts on character customization specifically, I can't say that I'm very impressed...and not for the reasons you think!! It's not that the character customization is too weak or anything, but that the templates and faces they give are too strong. Even though they have the sliders and everything, the faces already have such defining features and strong character that there is very little left to make "your own." Even though the sliders help, unless drastic steps in plastic surgery are taken, the toon is just going to be a rehash of the same face...the original character is just going to continually bleed through. In this case, you've done too good a job Carbine, your toons are too distinctive.
Why wasn't this in my sub box??? F you YT...
Love your Dev Speak's, Frost's voice is silky smooth, like a baby's bottom smooth! Keep up the good work. Volume is really low on this one? Please help!
I finally got to play the Beat from the last stress test and I love this game, can not wait!!!!!
In all seriousness though on the business model. I know you guys are getting all hot about going subscription and all but with this level of customization have you thought at all about the workshop and a model like TF2's? Not necessarily free to play but Sell the base software, include tools for people to make and submit custom cosmetics to something like the Steam Workshop, if chosen it gets added to a cash shop, the person who makes it gets a cut of the sales.
Just a suggestion.
If it's purely player-driven it's a good idea. It's important not to divert work and funds away from gameplay and content development.
And God forbid the suggestion ever gets implemented. Micro transactions in mmorpgs gross me out.
Would it be possible to customize the color of the esper's skill? From the usual light blue that is..
Will ability colorization be an option? Esper looks interesting, but blue.....? Shadow blades, or Firey red mind blades... please.
Usual work of brilliance. Is there equipment visual customisation like in DC universe online/ city of villains(personal faves) or even the transmute from wow, or even an EQ2 appearance item page(overwrites the visuals of the worn item without a stupid secondary crafting/consumable requirement) .
Best customization ever!
The mount costomization would be better if WE can create our own mount. Like in the game Spore
This game is looking more and more awesome. loving the graphics!
It would be cool of you can customize the color of your power. Like changing the esper's blue energy to green.
Mount customization...
And thus I lived happily ever after.
As do I.
Release it already D:
Also, finally.. a game with decent customization!
I am practically married to WoW. First MMO I've ever played since it came out. I see this game and I'm actually debating on making a switch. I'm beyond impressed with what these guys are doing with this game.
Its wow evolve but The questing is quite Boring .
I wonder how would Robbaz would decorate his armor, probably with tassle and viking helmet. Since he planned to play a granok, he would make the exile look "greyer".
Wow---This looks beyond amazing.
all the costomization is nice but will there be any presets and buy gear in a way that you don't have to do everything yourself, for the people who don't want to micromanage every little thing of your gear and all....
Really looking forward to this game. Really thinking we need some body sliders to go with the rest of the customization.
How much will wildstar's lore going to related to the scientist path? i really want the background of the game to be accessible in game no mater what the path of my character is, because i personally love to explore the games environment and find out what all happened in the area I'm in while still exploring... a menu button with a lore book that updates after you complete and exploration feature or a quest or some in game objective would be AWESOME!
Holy moly, I can't wait for this game to come out!
Finally a game developer knows how to use customisation!! FINALLY!
That music is perfect.
Also: Lots...Of...CUSTOMIZATION! I love it! Customization is awesome and this will be awesome.
This game better become the best MMORPG ev0r.
OK, this game has it all. I am amazed. Getting it no hesitation.
Question for customization: Can an engineer customize his drones to not look robotic? I guess what I really want to know is, can we customize the flavor of the class beyond the typical talent trees and stat point allocation? Can i make all my abilities look like they have fireworks coming off of them? Can I make my footprints look icey? can i make my breath come out in bubbles? etc etc.
If all this and more would be added, I would buy the game solely based on the customization.
Nergal134 Funny you should say that. They actually designed it to be that way. A few of the developers were huge animal crossing fans, so that's why the housing feature is as robust as it is.
I'm not sure but in an interview I'm almost positive someone (I think Stephen frost) said "the housing content can stand alone as it's own game"
I love this level of customization on so many things. Very awesome guys. I am loving the game and beta weekends as well. Can't wait to play more!
All right. All right.
Devs, if you are listening. Prove it.
I wanna see stockings/thigh highs. Give us Zettai Ryouiki (you're all big boys, you can google it). Only then will I believe it.
Yes, so much yes. Zettai Ryouiki FTW
Glorious tender bunny girl thighs are what I *came* for.
BODEH TIEYP CUSTOMIZAAAATIIIONNSSS!!! BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME PHYSICAL BUILD! I want my Grannok to be able to have a beer belly. Or 'The Bolder' as he'd call it!
It is jsut me or the volume is kinda low?
I'm sold... when's the release?!?
aaaaaand... we are back OVER hyped:D! finly saw a glimp of warplots. after a very funny disclaimerXD realy shaking for beta:O! any details that can tell us when you gonna launch!!??
If Wildstar agrees to implement a music system like that of Starbound, LOTRO etc.. Then I would be 100% on board! After playing beta a few days the games unique charm and classes ( and humor) have won me over... not even level 10 yet!
Will there be a color slyder/ wheel choosing hair/eye color?
Cannot wait to play this game. And houses in the sky? wowww
Teso announced a spring release pretty much at the same time Wildstar made the same announcement. Still no set date from Wildstar.. I have a feeling a spring release might not happen. Guess ill just preorder Teso and wait patiently.
YOU guys know how to make me loose all my patience and become crazy!!..haha
i see when you change skills you have to change out everything manually, is it possible to get 4 or 5i sh presets you can make so you don't have to micromanage each time you want to change spec?
Yes you can.
Up to 5 presets I think.
Nice!
can you change the coclour on the engenier's bots
It's soo.. soo... sooooooo EPIC !! i can't wait to customize everything !
Dudes, just release already, no one cares if it´s unfinished... I can´t take this anymore, i must play this damn thing
More crystal options for Granok please Carbine, most of the ones from the Mechs on Dominion side would work.
mount customization, YOU HAVE ME SOLD!
Love it all except the limited action set
W-what... what the hell. This is... you people. You people have just blown my mind. This is... dear God. Awesome.
the 4 leg dragon mount thing....INSTANT MUST HAVE. xD
The Devs aren't listening anymore : (
Your videos alone make me want to buy this game. Still laughing. Love it!
Sign for beta and wait eternity for the key. I signed like 6 months ago and still no key