Hey Guys if you have not heard Jeep has officially done a Recall on the Frame Welds of the new Jeep Wrangler JL, so as I stated in my Video, never buy the first year of a vehicle beeing redesigned , so for everyone thumbing down saying I only bought a JK because its what I could afford? I hope you see why now I did not go JL....
I just got a used 2018 jk 2 door. Its bare bones. I looked at the jls n i didnt like it .i didbt like the hood n the roundness of the front grill. I also didnt like the dash board. Mine has crank windows n manual locks i also have a cd player n a clock radio display. I dont need nothibg fancy like navigation n all that fooy stuff lol
You made right decision on the JK, the JL’s are loaded with electrical issues, we just bought a 2016 Rubicon hard rock 2 dr, got a great deal on it and love it.
I think the JK started in 2007. I have a 2008 JK Rubicon JK, six speed all stock,came with 255 tires, 31 in high. 17 mpg hilly country. 20 on flat roads. I have no need to clime Rocks. Great ride nice and quite. Love it. I'm taking the off road camping route.
Dennis Moore you are correct I realized after I made the video about the start of the JK generation was that I was referring to the interior refresh they did in 2011 because I did not like the interior from 07-10 but was too lazy to change it
@@AngelsTravelUnravel They also switched from the 3.8 "minivan motor" to the 3.6 we have now. There might have been a few other minor mechanical tweaks. I actually liked the 2007 interior. I don't really like the cargo netting door pockets etc of the 2011-2018 JK's as I've seen those stretch out and look kind of sad. What I don't miss is the constant squeaks and rattles of my 2007's hard top. My 2018 JL is completely silent, it may squeak later but right now it's tight.
I have a 07’ two door JK 4x4 and I love the rugged interior that is reminiscent of the TJ interior but grown up a bit. The refresh in 2011 changed it from a true Wrangler to a soccer mom SUV, unfortunately. That’s why I wouldn’t own a later than 2010 JK. The 3.8 has plenty of speed and grunt, can’t understand why people call it a minivan engine. I’d say the minivans got the Jeep engine tbh. I hear a lot of people complain that the 3.6 Pentastar they replaced it with is trash and not nearly as reliable.
Greg Roberts my thoughts exactly but Dealers will be Dealers they dressed this one up with blind spot sensors heated steering wheel all the good stuff but in the end it was still a “Sport”
I paid $44k for my JL Rubicon with some decent add ons. For instance, you really don't need the expensive $1.5k 8" display when you can just go with the standard 7" display and use your apple carplay/android auto for Navigation.
To each their own. I see your point but I still would rather have a JL over a JK, no matter what package. Just the uconnect, transmission, interior to start with are so much better.
Robstunner you are correct the Uconnect is not very user friendly in the JK I do miss my Uconnect system in my Grand Cherokee!! And yes there are many advantages but I am in love with my JK winter edition I hope the JL start rolling out special editions soon as the Sahara was out my price range and the sport to me was just not doing it too much plastic everywhere
Everyone has their own opinions. I bought a JK in February, and in my eyes, the exterior on the JK is nicer. Does the JL have more tech? YEAH! The JL has lots of cool features. But I spent thousands and thousands less on my JK than I would have on a JL so i have more money to mod mine and make it the way i like. Props to anyone who wants the JL and can spend the extra money, though!
I also got a 2018 Jk unlimited upgrade from 2Dr 2016 Jk. Jl are nice but didn't feel like a jeep and no CD Player. Too much tech for me stop turning wranglers into cars. Price wasn't a problem Jl only cost 3000.00 more no 💿 Player was the problem. Call me picky but it is what it is.
i totally get that! when i sat in the JL i instantly thought i was in my cherokee KL that i owned previously with all the tech... that's not what you expect out of a Wrangler!
Rashaud Rahim hey Rashaud I have to admit the price was more attractive on the JK but not by much when comparing to a wrangler sport JL thanks for watching :)
You really do bring up a good point on that though. I'm not going to say the JL isn't a jeep. Every generation of wrangler thus far...well..maybe except for the 3.8L JK...has been more offroad capable at stock than the last. And their whole lineup (Grand Cherokee, Renegade, etc)still has better offroad capabilities (again, comparing stock configuration) than their respective competitors. But honestly they've gotten away from the demographic that made their name. I understand that soccer mom's and mid-life crises are really good for making money...and I'm actually not going to say there's anything inherently wrong with that, and I have nothing wrong with having a trim level for them....that's kind of what the Sahara is...or at least should be. I say that because Jeep isn't just selling a vehicle with the wrangler. They're selling a lifestyle. But in their quest to sell luxury to those who can afford it (which, again, I'm not saying is a bad thing), their pricing has started to leave behind the people who made the lifestyle they're selling.
I almost purchased a JK cause there not many accessories for the JL I went with the JL cause it’s sexy lol I don’t think the wheels shoulda stopped you cause Jeep encourages you to make it your own Welcome to the real Jeep family * it’s a wrangler thing •
My JK vs JL comparison (for me, a 2 door Rubicon soft top) My JL pros -possibly the new 2.0 engine (I also like the Pentastar) -8 speed transmission -quicker throttle response -soft top without ‘cross bar’ -soft top no zippers -quieter soft top -body color roll bar -flat horizontal dash -lighter/aerodynamic tweaks = better MPG -real metal interior detail -real hardware (not faux bolts) interior -larger cup holders -air vents for cooling under hood -more slant in windshield (think rock damage) -doors stay opened -cabin is slightly longer -doors remove easier/faster -telescopic adjusting steering wheel -bigger storage tub -stronger and lighter tailgate -better hood latches My JL cons -auto start/stop (I know it can be disabled) -the bumpers (front and back) -front running lights on fender flare -too much digital visual “noise” on dash -rear camera (I know I can take it off - and I will) -no hard drive in radio to store music -looser steering -the $ cost $
You make a lot of sense. I have a 2015 JK I was gonna trade in this year for a JL but I think I'm gonna keep it for a couple more years. 👍 I only have 17000 miles on it.
I wouldn't trade my JK for a JL. After 7 years it looks like new underneath, no rust at all. People are getting serious rust issues in the JL, not just the door latches but the actual frame. You can buy two JKs with the money you will end up paying for the JL.
A "decent" JL is absolutely not well over $50,000. I just spent $41,000 on a Sahara with the LED lights, with the back up cam, with the tan leather, with the leather stitched dash, with the heated seats and steering wheel, with the 8.4 inch infotainment system, with the upgraded Alpine speakers and sub, with the trailer hitch and aux switches, with the premium soft stop, with the painted fenders, with the 18 inch chrome and black wheels, with the all terrain tires, with the all weather floor mats...you get my drift. Nothing has been carried over from the JK to the JL. All of the JK's issues were addressed in the JL. The new hood latches prevent the hood shake, the head lights are bigger and brighter, the shocks have been angled more upright for better road handling, they put dana44s on the rear of all JLs. They brought back classic Jeep heritage by styling both the exterior and interior to reminisce the old CJ-5 (bent grill, vertical dash). 2 weeks ago I test drove a JK and then a few days later the JL. The 2015 JK hardtop was $31,000, the brand new JL soft top was $45,000. I went home and crunched numbers and signed up to every forum I could. I came across a dealer called Koons in Northern Virgina. All the forum members said how they got 5% off INVOICE from Koons. I contacted them and sent them my build that I made on Jeep.com which totaled $45,290. They came back and said it would be 41,230 +tax, tags and $700 processing fee. I then went to the other dealer by me (NJ) and they said it was crazy. Best I could get them to was $43,500. I contacted Koons and pulled the trigger. Brand new JL Sahara from the factory with my name on the sticker with 90% of the options available for $41,230 (9% under MSRP). you don't need no 50 something thousand for "decent." Yeah a hard top is $2,000 and so is an automatic trans, but IT'S A WRANGLER!!!!! Damn things are supposed to have the top off and be bumping gears. I asked the dealer how the hard top came off when I was sitting in the 2015 JK, he told me how. Latch here, latch there unscrew that there and lift. I asked him how the top came off on the soft top and he SHOWED me how. Boom, two latches and it's back. Watched a video on cabin noise levels with hard top vs soft top in the JL. They were the same. I turned on the AC while I was test driving the JL. It was cold instantly. I watched a video where the guy tested the discharge air, it was 38 degrees! If cool works that good, heat should be no problem, soft top will keep anyone warm or cool when necessary. Plus I have heated steering wheel and seats. The only real reason one would go with the JK over the JL is because $40k is just truly out of range and their ceiling is $30k., otherwise it's a mistake. You could get a loaded Sport S with the leather and infotainment and LED group etc for about $37. DEFFFFF dont need $50k. Only the Rubicon, absolutely loaded, MSRP is about $56,000, but most ppl don't need the mechanical features of the Rubicon. and if you go to Koons, that full on loaded Rubicon would probably be like $51-$52k.
Hey Nick thanks for watching, its important to NOTE at the time of publication that was indeed what they were asking for the JL wranglers, there no lease/sale specials infact I still have the dealer breakdown, they were brand new and dealers could not keep them on the lot, however Now they are much easier to not only purchase but they have some insanely low Lease deals on them as well, when I made this I went with the information presented to me at the time and that is always subject to change given rebates, manufacture deals and such.
Good decision👍 you got more bang for your buck I think ... for what you got in that JK as a pose to what u would get in the JL is the JL really worth it? It would have to come down to how much u wanted the JL
The very best thing about JEEPS is the ability to mod and make it your own and use it how you want. I don't plan on crazy rock crawling and breaking crap. I have sacrificed a lot and continue to, in order to afford it anyway. I waited a year to decide between JK or JL. When I found out about price increase and most of what I cared about remained the same, I pulled the trigger and hopped on a plane 600 miles for the deal to get my white 17 JKU Sport $6500 off MSRP, knowing I could guilt free mod the crap out of it (lift, lockers, bumpers, killer wheels, 35 Mud Grapplers, etc, all super awesome deals on EBay). I am 100% LED for under $300. I freakin love it and may never ever sell it. Funny, it's also kind of like a never ending art project like nobody else's and doing the JEEP wave around here is pretty cool too since most people totally into it here! HUGE JEEP community! I'm still seeking out new trails when I can. I'm always thinking what to do next even if it's just to paint some little thing or fix something that's bugging me. Sorry for rambling but yeah, I'm so happy I went the JK route because otherwise I would have a still stock JL.
Sounds like to me you are more justifying your purchase which sounded a bit too emotional rather than being informative. While the JL will have available a variety of new engines, these will be fully rolled out within two years. The only engine available now is the 3.6 Pentastar V6 which is the same engine in your JK. The 8 speed transmission is the same one already being used in many Chrysler-Jeep vehicles for years. As those are the most important components of any vehicle your argument about fear of “first production” runs is a bit mute. Jeeps were never ranked in terms of high quality products to begin with in comparison to let’s say Toyota’s and even you admit your Grand Cherokee had problems but you still came back.
Chris Blanchard you are correct sir my confusion was when they redesigned the interior was in 2011 however the outside remained the same just too lazy to edit :) thanks for watching
I traded my 06 Rubicon LJ (Long wheel base TJ) for 18 Rubicon Recon JKU. So obviously I could have afforded to purchase a JL if I wanted and I still choose not to. First of all like you said never buy the first year of a new model, and secondly I just did not like the shape of the JL. The JL took on some type of round SUV look and now every woman and her mother has one to mall crawl and attend soccer practice (sarcasm, but y’all know there’s even an uptick in women talking about Jeep is their dream car). I also have plenty of creature comforts in the JKU especially making a 12 year leap from a previous generation. Don’t get me wrong there are SOME things about the JLU I like, but 3 years later I’m still happy I purchased my JKU instead of a JLU. If I ever change my mind, I can always trade for a new JLU, preferably one of these new editions or concepts coming that were not available 3 years ago. That would be difficult to do vice versa (especially limited editions) and impossible to acquire new.
mauiwaverider yes I am aware but its all they had on the Lot and I needed a car asap did not like the sport JL and the JK was in my budget more 4k iff msrp
you can buy tires wheels and led bulbs for a fraction of what you would have paid from the dealer. thats the point of a wrangler also the sport is the base model. the sport cost less than 40k you can buy them for like 36. they made the jk in 07 all the youtube videos you saw are trash. what does the dash have to do with leaks why are you knocking on things PLASTIDIPED FROM THE FACTORY !!!!! LMFAO they replaced the engine in 2011 after it had been out for 5 years PARA CORD PULLIES WHAT FUCKING PERKS i mean still welcome to the jeep family enjoy it
14MPG ON THE FREEWAY? holly s..t.....I get over 21mpg on the freeway with my 2016 JK Sahara. What did you do to get such a low MPG with a stock Wrangler?
A lot of haters on here but i agree with you. I passed on the JL and got a 2 door willies JK. Just looks so much better than the Jl. The JL look so girly now with the rounded grill, headlights impeding into grill now and worst of all the turn signals in the fenders. Yuck
ryan bax I'm a female and I really like how the job looks compared to the jl. I remember one of my friends said that the Jeep looks manish and why would I want one. But I just love how the Jeep jk's looks great especially in all black
Man i have to completely disagree. The JL has such a beefier grill. The jk grill is so dainty to the point where the hood actually funnels inward toward the front. And the lights are so small in comparison, plus the slight slant to it doesn't look great. Imo jk has the worst grill of any jeep.
Congrats on choosing the 10 year old platform over the brand new one to save like what? $3k? I bet the dealer was practically giving you a prostate massage to get that old stock JK off their lot. :)
You base your car buying decisions on the wheels and the lights? Two things that can be so easily changed in a weekend. 😆 everyone here is right dude, you ripped yourself off. Yes the JL is more expensive, but it is vastly improved over the JK, and if you really were content to get a JK you should have got a WAY better price. The more JLs hitting the dealerships they won’t be able to GIVE away a JK.
AV8R Tom thanks for watching! Remember this video was made in January alot has changed in 3 months so procewise yes had I waited ajd gone now my buying power would have been larger however my feeing is still the same, also the decision was more than just Lights and wheels as I explained.
It’s not about the features or design The JL in general is a better car Too much issues in the jk got fixed in the jl regarding ride quality and capability The jl needs few modes to be perfect You will pay way more for the jk
I also have a '17 JK. I just couldn't justify the price of the JL, plus I wanted to customize my stereo and not the new JL has everything integrated. How big of a difference was the ride between the JK and JL? I came from a Cadillac SRX, so that's the one thing I really miss, the smooth ride.
you may be correct about the LEDS, however, I was told by the dealer that the wiring harness is totally different from the LED setup could have been a plot to sell off his JK inventory, but I am very happy with my purchase still :), I will give the JL a few more years perhaps once the Diesel is out I will jump ship.
Anyone who is seriously comparing the two and ends up buying a JK is deluding themselves and trying to rationalize not spending the money. There are dozens of small things (backup camera, door detents, grab handles built in, much improved hood latches on and on. And so many big things, assuming yo don't buy a stripped down JL. The info screen on a JK is literally Atari quality and the JL is an Xbox One. And so many other things. The craptastic plastic interior on a JK is so 2008. So stop pretending its not about the money, its always about the money. (Oh yeah....I've owned both)
ViperJon hey john this was made when the JL first came out and was based on my experience, as I mentioned in the video price was infact a big factor but with that said I’d take this JK over a JL Sport any day the value was not comparable. I have beat this thing to death and still not broken lol thanks for watching!
Hey Angel, I appreciate your honest review and reasoning for buying a JK over a JL. I was originally a 4Runner fanboy, but after driving in the JL I can't get my mind off of the driving experience and possibilities a jeep can bring (taking the doors and top off is just a big fat win, let alone you can get them in manual!). I've been obsessing over the JL versus the JK, I guess the prospect of something brand new is always more exciting... but my brain is screaming "DUDE LOOK THE OTHER WAY!". A few reasons being: 1) it's been completely redesigned and we're only on the second model year (opinions about first versus second model year welcome here!) 2) The entry level of 48k for the build I want... madness! 3) Aftermarket parts are going to be more expensive for the JL as the JK parts get cheaper since it isn't the "new" thing anymore. 4) A lightly used JK Unlimited Rubicon (less than 20k miles) can be found for 15k less than a brand new JL - MOAR UPGRADES!! 5) I'm not a fan of the color options for the JL, or at least I think there could be some better options on the way (which would kill me). I welcome everyone's opinions and thoughts as a Jeep is a definite thing that will be happening, just a matter of time. Yes, the price is a factor here, I don't necessarily think I should be spending almost 1/3 of the cost of my mortgage each month on a vehicle IF the new model/upgrades aren't justified. I'm mostly looking for something that will last me forever, will get me through whatever trail I want to go on (within reason), and is something that I can love for many years to come. Thanks for reading my comment, looking forward to all of your responses.
You'll be out of debt much sooner if you're financing & you can use the money you save to go on a big Jeep adventure or buy a winch or tires & rims. Once you're a Jeeper it's like joining adventure with lots of like minded members.
Maybe if jeep was smart that yhey would continue making the jk in future years at a price point starting at 20 to 25k while making the jl at the higher price.
Angel's Travel Unravel i think that tje new jl is getting way too soft wrangler real fans do not want their wranglers to feel too soft to the point of feeling like every suv or truck
I've owned two JKs. Currently trying to get rid of my second one. Both have had many problems that didn't start until around 16K miles. Hopefully yours doesn't live up to the Jeep quality, or lack there of.
Wahid Hadi hey Wahid that is precisely why it does make sense, this was my personally decision, I was in a position to look at both and personally for me the JK made more sense. What I am saying is now is the time to buy a JK. 6 months from now when they are gone all you will have is the JL and imo there are just not enough options at a comfortable price range for me anyway to warrant purchasing one. That doesnt mean it wont change in the future, but right now any decent JL model is well over 50k and forget about dealer discounts, anyway thanks for watching!
Don't knock a way better generation because you couldn't afford it. It's was a price thing you clearly said it. I sold my 17 JKU for a 18 JLUR. 55 grand I think is a steal for what the Jeep is. Also, you could of added led light to the JLU and factory Rubicon wheels cheaper then you would of from the dealership. Bad info.
William Hernandez hey Will thanks for watching thats actually not true I was shopping for a JL before the JK, it was after I test drove it and compared it to the Jk that I decided to go with one. I said for my money I got more with the JK and yes its hard to justify the price of the JL right now for me personally. I choose the JK because of the value not because its all I could afford again thanks for feedback
William Hernandez also on the LED, I asked the dealer how easy it was to swap them with the Sahara LeDs according to the dealer it cant happen because the wiring harness is different and I would have to splice wires. Could it not he true? Sure but this is what they told me and the lack of aftermarket accessories at least for now compared to the JK was another
I guess the gas mileage is different with manual. I have a 2 door jk 2011 sport with 3.21 big engine 3.8 , with 33" inch wheels and average about 19 mpg highway and 12-16in traffic and city..
I’ve owned both. 2011 JK 70th anniversary 2 dr and now own 2018 JL Sahara. Although both are great the JL is a major improvement. Most of the issues with the JK have been addressed and fixed. LED lighting in and out are the biggest improvement. Uconnect has improved with built in Siri. and apple CarPlay works like a charm. Yes it’s expensive but worth every penny.
I think that the J.K. came out in 2007 for a 10 year run? The motor & dash were up graded in 2012. I love my 2016 JKU. It's a great truck & all that tech. crap could cause the owner grief once old age starts to creep up on those high tech controls. One good thing about the new JL. & JLU.'s is that the price for aftermarket JK.'s, TJ.'s & YJ's parts are getting cheaper. lol The older Jeeps are simpler to repair in the event of an apocalypse & chances are they'll be easier to find cause who the hell can really afford a JL/JLU with the way the economy is going? As far as Wranglers go if you've always wanted one buy what you can afford. You can always customize it later plus you meet so many interesting people who will always help a fellow Jeeper stuck on the side of the road. Always remember to only go offroading with a few other four wheelers & always tell your family & friends what area you will be wheeling at.
Like any new generational car, I would wait a couple of model years...in my experience, there seems to be a lot of bugs such as mechanics, paint, fit and finish, etc. plus they are so damn expensive!!
Carmen Montanez hi Carmen you got a great deal! Unfortunently the features I wanted in a sahara like LED, color painted hard top and so on, put mine almost at 50k bit thanks for watching!!!
The JL 8-Speed Automatic compared to the JK 5 Speed automatic is a huge difference. My JKUR seemed powerful enough with 35" Tires and and the 5-speed. Our NEW 2019 JLUR is so much better with the 8-Speed. We are running 37" tires on the JLUR and it has so much more power than the JK just from the 8-speed transmission. I was thinking I might need to regear for the 37's but no need. When I buy a vehicle I don't buy it for the Rims and tires that are on it. I will never buy a dealer fixed up vehicle unless you want to pay double what it would cost to build it up yourself. I add my own Rims and tires to every vehicle I purchase. Dealers charge too much. We had to test it out after being only a week old on the John Bull trail here in Big Bear California. You should be happy with both but if its not about price get the JL.
They are a combination of Sports Mesh and Leather, it is exclusive to the Winter edition Model, however you may be able to find them online by searching for those seats! Check out my Video where you can have a more detailed look!!! ruclips.net/video/Y3UH0qyskas/видео.html
7:38 minutes listening to your reasons convinced me that you have little knowledge of the jeep wrangler. your future reasoning hopefully will be based on engine details, transmission case, gears (not if one has 8 speed vs 6! But actual gear ratios), suspension, overland performance etc. However, you appeared to be a typical walmart driver paying attention to how the wheels look and if it has LED and if they look pretty. These things matter when you want to buy a toyota hybrid cars or maybe jeep GC but NOT a jeep wrangler! Finally, the pinned comment about "its what i could afford" then why don't you just make a one minute and say that at the beginning!
I own JK, but I personally like the look of JL better. In my opinion only one JK line can really compete with JL when it comes to design is Rubicon Recon 2 doors with manual transmission, so that’s exactly what I got. And after replacing factory shifter with B&M performance, it took my Jeep to a different level. Congrats to all JL owners! Jeep is Jeep no matter what. And don’t forget to get a max care lifetime warranty, you’ll need it 😀👍
the 3.8l jk came out in 07, then at some point they changed the engine and interior. i have an 07 jk. but it was 2 year old when i got it so any recalls at the time had been taken care of.
I just bought a brand new JK too. I really don't like the look of the JL's, and of course there's the fear of problems popping up in the beginning of a new model. Sometimes it takes a couple of years to work out the new bugs. Maybe in a few years, I could get used to the "Look" of the JL's, but right now, for me, they just don't have that classic "Jeep look". Plus, mine is a beefed up, Rocky Ridged-up (if that's a word?), Grumpered (I know that's not a word!), kinda' beast of a Jeep, and the JL's (in my opinion) just don't look as cool if you're going for the aggressive look.
Urgent, pls help! Not sure about frame welds -- was it on a specific build date range or run? I do have a similar question about 2018 ruby vs Sahara but there's a TWIST. Pricing is the same now for a 2018 JK Rubicon OR a 2018 JL Sahara. Which one? I don't plan on serious off-roading. Probably. But for camp/hiking, biking, some snow. My FIRST jeep. I test drove a JL sport last year, automatic. But I can get either a JL Sahara or a JK Rubicon. And yes I like some of the creature comforts and wouldn't mind a factory rearview camera. *yes I know I can get one installed on the JK. I can compare build sheets and axles all day long but in need an experienced advisor. WHAT SHOULD I DO??
Joseph D it’s been over a year since I made this video. Although I still Love my JK Wrangler Winter Edition if you want creature comforts and not doing any serious off-roading is go with the JL Sahara
Stephen Bova valid point but I still love my JK! The Winter Edition specifically lol I admit im not as good negotiator as some other folks on here no doubt in 5-6 years I will be much better at this lol for now I am happy :) plus the JK aftermarket is amazing I know the JL will eventually catchup but right now only MOPAR makes stuff for the JL and its ridiculous overpriced! Imo
Angel's Travel Unravel. Hey man I deleted my last comment because it wasn't tasteful, I have a 2010' wrangler unlimited w/ cloth seats & I'm mad & FUCK I can't afford the new JL LOL !!!
Jay Suttle your still a part of Jeepwave Nation Brother! Keep on Jeeping!!!! I will probably get a JL i 5-6 years lol when the Chinese market catches up another good reason to not get one now is the only accessories are mopar and spot lights are 500 dollars lol
If you’re thinking to keep that jk for the rest of your life then you’re good if not you made a horrible mistake those jk’s are going to depreciate in value in the upcoming months while the jl are going to take over the jeep market.
The halogens on the new JL's are very good compared to the JK halogens. I own the new JL Sport S. And I haven't had any problems with it. I think Fiat has stepped up their game. plus now that the new JL is out, the JK is going to start looking dated.
Phillip Craggs that may be true but personally me nothing beats LED’s still though I wish I waited jjst a little longer to get an even better deal as I read they are giving away Jk’s now but im still very happy! Keep on Jeeping!
Rebecca Smith hey Rebecca while Inagree with you know at the time of recording the JL was Brand new, and the dealer had me convinced there was no way of converting to LEDS from halogen furthermore the lack of aftermarket accessories at the time was also a big determining factor, now it’s a different ball game but I gs to make a decision a year ago
Edmund Phu the problem for me was the drastic price difference of the JL sport and the JL sahara was a crazy jump it may have just been what was available at the time
The only thing that i would really want in a jeep wrangler is leather seats heated seats and stripped out radio and nav computer and my 35 inch tires and dyna 60 axeles
Harvey Bialk hey Harvey thanks so much for the feedback I am doing a video now where After one month ownership and 1,000 miles driven do I regret my decision stay tuned!
I disagree but to each its own, who knows maybe I will trade her in in 5 years for a JL lol but for now I think personally I made the right choice :). Thanks for watching!
Jesus Sanchez at the time when I went to buy one there were no rebates and they gave nothing off this is back in January I see alot of the programs now and there great you git a great deal congrats!
Both the Pentastar and the WA580 5-speed automatic transmission were introduced into the JK in 2012, with the interior refresh happening the year before. Even though the powertrain is somewhat dated now, the JK is still a great Jeep. Sure, it doesn't have the bells and whistles of the JL, but it's still just as capable. If you're happy with what you've got, good for you.
You right lights flashing and all that electrical stuff is why iam going jk. I live in Louisiana we used a jeep . Going to get 2018 jk. It's funny you Yankees let your wife tell you what to buy. Mine stays home when I go buy something. 😂
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Hey Guys if you have not heard Jeep has officially done a Recall on the Frame Welds of the new Jeep Wrangler JL, so as I stated in my Video, never buy the first year of a vehicle beeing redesigned , so for everyone thumbing down saying I only bought a JK because its what I could afford? I hope you see why now I did not go JL....
you mean Fiats ?
I try not to buy the first year of any vehicle. If we do it is usually a leased vehicle that we turn back in after a few years.
JK’s are fine, JL’s are fine..........JUST GET YOURSELF A FREAKING JEEP!!!!!
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I just got a used 2018 jk 2 door. Its bare bones. I looked at the jls n i didnt like it .i didbt like the hood n the roundness of the front grill. I also didnt like the dash board. Mine has crank windows n manual locks i also have a cd player n a clock radio display. I dont need nothibg fancy like navigation n all that fooy stuff lol
I got the JK due to the 3.6L V6 engine , no start-stop, normal sized key, and the fact that there isn't a 42V battery underneath the vehicle LOL
You made right decision on the JK, the JL’s are loaded with electrical issues, we just bought a 2016 Rubicon hard rock 2 dr, got a great deal on it and love it.
I like the jks personally because they have less tech
Me too
Both are good. I prefer the looks of the JK
I think the JK started in 2007. I have a 2008 JK Rubicon JK, six speed all stock,came with 255 tires, 31 in high. 17 mpg hilly country. 20 on flat roads. I have no need to clime Rocks. Great ride nice and quite. Love it. I'm taking the off road camping route.
Dennis Moore you are correct I realized after I made the video about the start of the JK generation was that I was referring to the interior refresh they did in 2011 because I did not like the interior from 07-10 but was too lazy to change it
@@AngelsTravelUnravel They also switched from the 3.8 "minivan motor" to the 3.6 we have now. There might have been a few other minor mechanical tweaks. I actually liked the 2007 interior. I don't really like the cargo netting door pockets etc of the 2011-2018 JK's as I've seen those stretch out and look kind of sad. What I don't miss is the constant squeaks and rattles of my 2007's hard top. My 2018 JL is completely silent, it may squeak later but right now it's tight.
I have a 07’ two door JK 4x4 and I love the rugged interior that is reminiscent of the TJ interior but grown up a bit. The refresh in 2011 changed it from a true Wrangler to a soccer mom SUV, unfortunately. That’s why I wouldn’t own a later than 2010 JK. The 3.8 has plenty of speed and grunt, can’t understand why people call it a minivan engine. I’d say the minivans got the Jeep engine tbh. I hear a lot of people complain that the 3.6 Pentastar they replaced it with is trash and not nearly as reliable.
I have a 2007 jk unlimited x spec. the same as Rubicon..I have had zero problems. 13 years old looks New
$45-46k for a JL Sport? I've priced out JL Rubicons at $53k loaded. If I build a JL Sport loaded out on Jeep.com it only comes to $36k.
Greg Roberts my thoughts exactly but Dealers will be Dealers they dressed this one up with blind spot sensors heated steering wheel all the good stuff but in the end it was still a “Sport”
Greg Roberts the dealer even told me dont listen to jeep.com they dont know how to price
I paid $44k for my JL Rubicon with some decent add ons. For instance, you really don't need the expensive $1.5k 8" display when you can just go with the standard 7" display and use your apple carplay/android auto for Navigation.
I own a 2014 Sahara Unlimited with the Freedom Hardtop and never had any leaks in all these years with it in the rain.
I totally agree with your assessments, I bought the ‘17 JK too. Can you share who did your back camera? Needs to get mine done.
Yaw Osei did it myself lol
ruclips.net/video/wjyVpMpOJas/видео.html
JK came out in 2007. Also, you can get take off rims and tires for cheap all over FBMP. Thanks for your video.
To each their own. I see your point but I still would rather have a JL over a JK, no matter what package. Just the uconnect, transmission, interior to start with are so much better.
Robstunner you are correct the Uconnect is not very user friendly in the JK I do miss my Uconnect system in my Grand Cherokee!! And yes there are many advantages but I am in love with my JK winter edition I hope the JL start rolling out special editions soon as the Sahara was out my price range and the sport to me was just not doing it too much plastic everywhere
I may be biased, I jumped from a Grand Cherokee 75th to a JL Rubicon! Either way, it's still a Wrangler! Can't ever be unhappy with that.
Robstunner amen!!!!!
Robstunner i jumped from a Grand Cherokee altitude and as much as I loved it I dont miss it with the wrangler lol
Angel's Travel Unravel I agree, much more of an enthusiast vehicle
Everyone has their own opinions. I bought a JK in February, and in my eyes, the exterior on the JK is nicer. Does the JL have more tech? YEAH! The JL has lots of cool features. But I spent thousands and thousands less on my JK than I would have on a JL so i have more money to mod mine and make it the way i like. Props to anyone who wants the JL and can spend the extra money, though!
itskirstenxx great comment and thanks for watching!
I also got a 2018 Jk unlimited upgrade from 2Dr 2016 Jk. Jl are nice but didn't feel like a jeep and no CD Player. Too much tech for me stop turning wranglers into cars. Price wasn't a problem Jl only cost 3000.00 more no 💿 Player was the problem. Call me picky but it is what it is.
i totally get that! when i sat in the JL i instantly thought i was in my cherokee KL that i owned previously with all the tech... that's not what you expect out of a Wrangler!
itskirstenxx you are 100% correct
lol you bought the JK cuz it was cheaper dont try to justify it any other way...
Rashaud Rahim hey Rashaud I have to admit the price was more attractive on the JK but not by much when comparing to a wrangler sport JL thanks for watching :)
You really do bring up a good point on that though.
I'm not going to say the JL isn't a jeep. Every generation of wrangler thus far...well..maybe except for the 3.8L JK...has been more offroad capable at stock than the last. And their whole lineup (Grand Cherokee, Renegade, etc)still has better offroad capabilities (again, comparing stock configuration) than their respective competitors.
But honestly they've gotten away from the demographic that made their name. I understand that soccer mom's and mid-life crises are really good for making money...and I'm actually not going to say there's anything inherently wrong with that, and I have nothing wrong with having a trim level for them....that's kind of what the Sahara is...or at least should be.
I say that because Jeep isn't just selling a vehicle with the wrangler. They're selling a lifestyle. But in their quest to sell luxury to those who can afford it (which, again, I'm not saying is a bad thing), their pricing has started to leave behind the people who made the lifestyle they're selling.
I almost purchased a JK cause there not many accessories for the JL I went with the JL cause it’s sexy lol I don’t think the wheels shoulda stopped you cause Jeep encourages you to make it your own
Welcome to the real Jeep family
* it’s a wrangler thing •
Motor T love this comment and this is what its about!!! Jeepwave!!!! From NYC!
Happy with my 2014 jk
My JK vs JL comparison (for me, a 2 door Rubicon soft top)
My JL pros
-possibly the new 2.0 engine (I also like the Pentastar)
-8 speed transmission
-quicker throttle response
-soft top without ‘cross bar’
-soft top no zippers
-quieter soft top
-body color roll bar
-flat horizontal dash
-lighter/aerodynamic tweaks = better MPG
-real metal interior detail
-real hardware (not faux bolts) interior
-larger cup holders
-air vents for cooling under hood
-more slant in windshield (think rock damage)
-doors stay opened
-cabin is slightly longer
-doors remove easier/faster
-telescopic adjusting steering wheel
-bigger storage tub
-stronger and lighter tailgate
-better hood latches
My JL cons
-auto start/stop (I know it can be disabled)
-the bumpers (front and back)
-front running lights on fender flare
-too much digital visual “noise” on dash
-rear camera (I know I can take it off - and I will)
-no hard drive in radio to store music
-looser steering
-the $ cost $
Brian Murphy spot on! #jeepwave
You make a lot of sense. I have a 2015 JK I was gonna trade in this year for a JL but I think I'm gonna keep it for a couple more years. 👍 I only have 17000 miles on it.
your video convinced me to get a JL, wow rims and decals as a deciding factor
Tim Jones thanks for Watching tim, while the rims and tires where not the only deciding factor for me they did play a part :)
I wouldn't trade my JK for a JL.
After 7 years it looks like new underneath, no rust at all. People are getting serious rust issues in the JL, not just the door latches but the actual frame. You can buy two JKs with the money you will end up paying for the JL.
The JL looks to delicate
THIS i always thought the JL 2 dr looked skimpy compared to a 2dr JK
A "decent" JL is absolutely not well over $50,000. I just spent $41,000 on a Sahara with the LED lights, with the back up cam, with the tan leather, with the leather stitched dash, with the heated seats and steering wheel, with the 8.4 inch infotainment system, with the upgraded Alpine speakers and sub, with the trailer hitch and aux switches, with the premium soft stop, with the painted fenders, with the 18 inch chrome and black wheels, with the all terrain tires, with the all weather floor mats...you get my drift. Nothing has been carried over from the JK to the JL. All of the JK's issues were addressed in the JL. The new hood latches prevent the hood shake, the head lights are bigger and brighter, the shocks have been angled more upright for better road handling, they put dana44s on the rear of all JLs. They brought back classic Jeep heritage by styling both the exterior and interior to reminisce the old CJ-5 (bent grill, vertical dash). 2 weeks ago I test drove a JK and then a few days later the JL. The 2015 JK hardtop was $31,000, the brand new JL soft top was $45,000. I went home and crunched numbers and signed up to every forum I could. I came across a dealer called Koons in Northern Virgina. All the forum members said how they got 5% off INVOICE from Koons. I contacted them and sent them my build that I made on Jeep.com which totaled $45,290. They came back and said it would be 41,230 +tax, tags and $700 processing fee. I then went to the other dealer by me (NJ) and they said it was crazy. Best I could get them to was $43,500. I contacted Koons and pulled the trigger. Brand new JL Sahara from the factory with my name on the sticker with 90% of the options available for $41,230 (9% under MSRP). you don't need no 50 something thousand for "decent." Yeah a hard top is $2,000 and so is an automatic trans, but IT'S A WRANGLER!!!!! Damn things are supposed to have the top off and be bumping gears. I asked the dealer how the hard top came off when I was sitting in the 2015 JK, he told me how. Latch here, latch there unscrew that there and lift. I asked him how the top came off on the soft top and he SHOWED me how. Boom, two latches and it's back. Watched a video on cabin noise levels with hard top vs soft top in the JL. They were the same. I turned on the AC while I was test driving the JL. It was cold instantly. I watched a video where the guy tested the discharge air, it was 38 degrees! If cool works that good, heat should be no problem, soft top will keep anyone warm or cool when necessary. Plus I have heated steering wheel and seats. The only real reason one would go with the JK over the JL is because $40k is just truly out of range and their ceiling is $30k., otherwise it's a mistake. You could get a loaded Sport S with the leather and infotainment and LED group etc for about $37. DEFFFFF dont need $50k. Only the Rubicon, absolutely loaded, MSRP is about $56,000, but most ppl don't need the mechanical features of the Rubicon. and if you go to Koons, that full on loaded Rubicon would probably be like $51-$52k.
Hey Nick thanks for watching, its important to NOTE at the time of publication that was indeed what they were asking for the JL wranglers, there no lease/sale specials infact I still have the dealer breakdown, they were brand new and dealers could not keep them on the lot, however Now they are much easier to not only purchase but they have some insanely low Lease deals on them as well, when I made this I went with the information presented to me at the time and that is always subject to change given rebates, manufacture deals and such.
I got the JK too instead of the JL a month ago. I absolutely love it. It's my dream car!
A_World _Full_Of_ Lies i agree!!!!!
A_World _Full_Of_ Lies This is my dream car!! I hope to get it sometime in the future
Good Luck Britanie! I am so happy with mine :)
Good decision👍 you got more bang for your buck I think ... for what you got in that JK as a pose to what u would get in the JL is the JL really worth it? It would have to come down to how much u wanted the JL
Stan Mcdonald i agree! Thanks for Watching!
The very best thing about JEEPS is the ability to mod and make it your own and use it how you want. I don't plan on crazy rock crawling and breaking crap. I have sacrificed a lot and continue to, in order to afford it anyway. I waited a year to decide between JK or JL. When I found out about price increase and most of what I cared about remained the same, I pulled the trigger and hopped on a plane 600 miles for the deal to get my white 17 JKU Sport $6500 off MSRP, knowing I could guilt free mod the crap out of it (lift, lockers, bumpers, killer wheels, 35 Mud Grapplers, etc, all super awesome deals on EBay). I am 100% LED for under $300. I freakin love it and may never ever sell it. Funny, it's also kind of like a never ending art project like nobody else's and doing the JEEP wave around here is pretty cool too since most people totally into it here! HUGE JEEP community! I'm still seeking out new trails when I can. I'm always thinking what to do next even if it's just to paint some little thing or fix something that's bugging me. Sorry for rambling but yeah, I'm so happy I went the JK route because otherwise I would have a still stock JL.
Just bought a 2018 JK and my wife didn't like the jl hood. Hence why we have a JK.
Ty....same thing with me. I hate the jl hood
Sounds like to me you are more justifying your purchase which sounded a bit too emotional rather than being informative. While the JL will have available a variety of new engines, these will be fully rolled out within two years. The only engine available now is the 3.6 Pentastar V6 which is the same engine in your JK. The 8 speed transmission is the same one already being used in many Chrysler-Jeep vehicles for years. As those are the most important components of any vehicle your argument about fear of “first production” runs is a bit mute. Jeeps were never ranked in terms of high quality products to begin with in comparison to let’s say Toyota’s and even you admit your Grand Cherokee had problems but you still came back.
All great points!, I think at the end at least for todays approaching one month into ownership I am happy with my decision :)
Moot, not mute.
07 was when they came out with the JK not 2011.
Chris Blanchard you are correct sir my confusion was when they redesigned the interior was in 2011 however the outside remained the same just too lazy to edit :) thanks for watching
That's what I was just gonna tell him
What were you thinking dude
The JK was first released in 2007, city boy.
Corrie Baker i mentioned i was referring to the interior refresh for 2011 in the info just too lazy to edit
I traded my 06 Rubicon LJ (Long wheel base TJ) for 18 Rubicon Recon JKU. So obviously I could have afforded to purchase a JL if I wanted and I still choose not to. First of all like you said never buy the first year of a new model, and secondly I just did not like the shape of the JL. The JL took on some type of round SUV look and now every woman and her mother has one to mall crawl and attend soccer practice (sarcasm, but y’all know there’s even an uptick in women talking about Jeep is their dream car). I also have plenty of creature comforts in the JKU especially making a 12 year leap from a previous generation. Don’t get me wrong there are SOME things about the JLU I like, but 3 years later I’m still happy I purchased my JKU instead of a JLU. If I ever change my mind, I can always trade for a new JLU, preferably one of these new editions or concepts coming that were not available 3 years ago. That would be difficult to do vice versa (especially limited editions) and impossible to acquire new.
The Sport is entry level!
mauiwaverider yes I am aware but its all they had on the Lot and I needed a car asap did not like the sport JL and the JK was in my budget more 4k iff msrp
you can buy tires wheels and led bulbs for a fraction of what you would have paid from the dealer. thats the point of a wrangler also the sport is the base model. the sport cost less than 40k you can buy them for like 36. they made the jk in 07 all the youtube videos you saw are trash. what does the dash have to do with leaks why are you knocking on things
PLASTIDIPED FROM THE FACTORY !!!!! LMFAO
they replaced the engine in 2011 after it had been out for 5 years
PARA CORD PULLIES WHAT FUCKING PERKS
i mean still welcome to the jeep family enjoy it
Saturated used market is where the best bang for your buck is on a Wrangler.
Wranglers actually hold their value pretty well.
14MPG ON THE FREEWAY? holly s..t.....I get over 21mpg on the freeway with my 2016 JK Sahara. What did you do to get such a low MPG with a stock Wrangler?
A lot of haters on here but i agree with you. I passed on the JL and got a 2 door willies JK. Just looks so much better than the Jl. The JL look so girly now with the rounded grill, headlights impeding into grill now and worst of all the turn signals in the fenders. Yuck
ryan bax i agree!!!!!
ryan bax I'm a female and I really like how the job looks compared to the jl. I remember one of my friends said that the Jeep looks manish and why would I want one. But I just love how the Jeep jk's looks great especially in all black
Man i have to completely disagree. The JL has such a beefier grill. The jk grill is so dainty to the point where the hood actually funnels inward toward the front. And the lights are so small in comparison, plus the slight slant to it doesn't look great. Imo jk has the worst grill of any jeep.
Good choice w JK. They’re sweet looking Jeeps.
Congrats on choosing the 10 year old platform over the brand new one to save like what? $3k? I bet the dealer was practically giving you a prostate massage to get that old stock JK off their lot. :)
HUGE JACKMAN lol haha hey I love my JK like I said the money was not the only reason. But hell of a deal you got! Thanks for watching!
You base your car buying decisions on the wheels and the lights? Two things that can be so easily changed in a weekend. 😆 everyone here is right dude, you ripped yourself off. Yes the JL is more expensive, but it is vastly improved over the JK, and if you really were content to get a JK you should have got a WAY better price. The more JLs hitting the dealerships they won’t be able to GIVE away a JK.
AV8R Tom thanks for watching! Remember this video was made in January alot has changed in 3 months so procewise yes had I waited ajd gone now my buying power would have been larger however my feeing is still the same, also the decision was more than just Lights and wheels as I explained.
It’s not about the features or design
The JL in general is a better car
Too much issues in the jk got fixed in the jl regarding ride quality and capability
The jl needs few modes to be perfect
You will pay way more for the jk
Ahmed Savage i see your point and there great points! However for today I love my JK maybe once the JL is perfected I will step into it
I also have a '17 JK. I just couldn't justify the price of the JL, plus I wanted to customize my stereo and not the new JL has everything integrated.
How big of a difference was the ride between the JK and JL? I came from a Cadillac SRX, so that's the one thing I really miss, the smooth ride.
Actually the JK started in 2007 and got some updates in 2011/12. I had a 2007 JK Rubicon and just sold it and bought a 2018 JL.
If you ended up adding a back up camera, you could have added LEDs on the JL. You made the wrong choice sir.
you may be correct about the LEDS, however, I was told by the dealer that the wiring harness is totally different from the LED setup could have been a plot to sell off his JK inventory, but I am very happy with my purchase still :), I will give the JL a few more years perhaps once the Diesel is out I will jump ship.
Anyone who is seriously comparing the two and ends up buying a JK is deluding themselves and trying to rationalize not spending the money. There are dozens of small things (backup camera, door detents, grab handles built in, much improved hood latches on and on. And so many big things, assuming yo don't buy a stripped down JL. The info screen on a JK is literally Atari quality and the JL is an Xbox One. And so many other things. The craptastic plastic interior on a JK is so 2008. So stop pretending its not about the money, its always about the money. (Oh yeah....I've owned both)
ViperJon hey john this was made when the JL first came out and was based on my experience, as I mentioned in the video price was infact a big factor but with that said I’d take this JK over a JL Sport any day the value was not comparable. I have beat this thing to death and still not broken lol thanks for watching!
SUBBED 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 🇵🇷🇵🇷I GOT A JK RUBICON AND I LOVE IT
The JL is every bit as capable as the JK , if not more.
2007 is when the JK generation starts. The JL is more expensive? yes, if you want a nicer look the rubicon is the way to go.
CARLOS MERIDA, pintor thanks for the feed back Carlos!
CARLOS MERIDA, pintor JK is cheaper now. That’s why buddy bought it.
phoenix2985 thats no the only reason but it did help
Hey Angel, I appreciate your honest review and reasoning for buying a JK over a JL. I was originally a 4Runner fanboy, but after driving in the JL I can't get my mind off of the driving experience and possibilities a jeep can bring (taking the doors and top off is just a big fat win, let alone you can get them in manual!). I've been obsessing over the JL versus the JK, I guess the prospect of something brand new is always more exciting... but my brain is screaming "DUDE LOOK THE OTHER WAY!".
A few reasons being:
1) it's been completely redesigned and we're only on the second model year (opinions about first versus second model year welcome here!)
2) The entry level of 48k for the build I want... madness!
3) Aftermarket parts are going to be more expensive for the JL as the JK parts get cheaper since it isn't the "new" thing anymore.
4) A lightly used JK Unlimited Rubicon (less than 20k miles) can be found for 15k less than a brand new JL - MOAR UPGRADES!!
5) I'm not a fan of the color options for the JL, or at least I think there could be some better options on the way (which would kill me).
I welcome everyone's opinions and thoughts as a Jeep is a definite thing that will be happening, just a matter of time.
Yes, the price is a factor here, I don't necessarily think I should be spending almost 1/3 of the cost of my mortgage each month on a vehicle IF the new model/upgrades aren't justified.
I'm mostly looking for something that will last me forever, will get me through whatever trail I want to go on (within reason), and is something that I can love for many years to come.
Thanks for reading my comment, looking forward to all of your responses.
You'll be out of debt much sooner if you're financing & you can use the money you save to go on a big Jeep adventure or buy a winch or tires & rims. Once you're a Jeeper it's like joining adventure with lots of like minded members.
Maybe if jeep was smart that yhey would continue making the jk in future years at a price point starting at 20 to 25k while making the jl at the higher price.
captianjessie1 i agree!!! The JK model is awesome i simply love it!
Angel's Travel Unravel i think that tje new jl is getting way too soft wrangler real fans do not want their wranglers to feel too soft to the point of feeling like every suv or truck
captianjessie1 i agree the JK has the FEEL of a wrangler that is what I said in the video the JL drove like my grand Cherokee did
Like the Jeep! JK from 07-2018 and they switched to the 3.6 in 2012 just a little info for ya!
Thanks Zach!!! and Thanks for Watching!
Man...I hate to say this but you gonna regret this one...
gang wu thank for watching...so far....I am still in Love with my JK! :)
I've owned two JKs. Currently trying to get rid of my second one. Both have had many problems that didn't start until around 16K miles. Hopefully yours doesn't live up to the Jeep quality, or lack there of.
Thanks for the feedback!!!! Hopefully she holds out so far so good!!!!
Please tell me the problems you had
Lol this video makes no sense. Comparing a JL sport to a loaded JK.
Wahid Hadi hey Wahid that is precisely why it does make sense, this was my personally decision, I was in a position to look at both and personally for me the JK made more sense. What I am saying is now is the time to buy a JK. 6 months from now when they are gone all you will have is the JL and imo there are just not enough options at a comfortable price range for me anyway to warrant purchasing one. That doesnt mean it wont change in the future, but right now any decent JL model is well over 50k and forget about dealer discounts, anyway thanks for watching!
Wahid Hadi
ruclips.net/video/KWfLuFtJJVY/видео.html never buy the first generation
Don't knock a way better generation because you couldn't afford it. It's was a price thing you clearly said it. I sold my 17 JKU for a 18 JLUR. 55 grand I think is a steal for what the Jeep is. Also, you could of added led light to the JLU and factory Rubicon wheels cheaper then you would of from the dealership. Bad info.
William Hernandez hey Will thanks for watching thats actually not true I was shopping for a JL before the JK, it was after I test drove it and compared it to the Jk that I decided to go with one. I said for my money I got more with the JK and yes its hard to justify the price of the JL right now for me personally. I choose the JK because of the value not because its all I could afford again thanks for feedback
William Hernandez also on the LED, I asked the dealer how easy it was to swap them with the Sahara LeDs according to the dealer it cant happen because the wiring harness is different and I would have to splice wires. Could it not he true? Sure but this is what they told me and the lack of aftermarket accessories at least for now compared to the JK was another
I guess the gas mileage is different with manual.
I have a 2 door jk 2011 sport with 3.21 big engine 3.8 ,
with 33" inch wheels and average about 19 mpg highway and 12-16in traffic and city..
I’ve owned both. 2011 JK 70th anniversary 2 dr and now own 2018 JL Sahara. Although both are great the JL is a major improvement. Most of the issues with the JK have been addressed and fixed. LED lighting in and out are the biggest improvement. Uconnect has improved with built in Siri. and apple CarPlay works like a charm. Yes it’s expensive but worth every penny.
Steve M keep on jeeping !!!
I think that the J.K. came out in 2007 for a 10 year run? The motor & dash were up graded in 2012. I love my 2016 JKU. It's a great truck & all that tech. crap could cause the owner grief once old age starts to creep up on those high tech controls. One good thing about the new JL. & JLU.'s is that the price for aftermarket JK.'s, TJ.'s & YJ's parts are getting cheaper. lol The older Jeeps are simpler to repair in the event of an apocalypse & chances are they'll be easier to find cause who the hell can really afford a JL/JLU with the way the economy is going? As far as Wranglers go if you've always wanted one buy what you can afford. You can always customize it later plus you meet so many interesting people who will always help a fellow Jeeper stuck on the side of the road. Always remember to only go offroading with a few other four wheelers & always tell your family & friends what area you will be wheeling at.
Like any new generational car, I would wait a couple of model years...in my experience, there seems to be a lot of bugs such as mechanics, paint, fit and finish, etc. plus they are so damn expensive!!
I got my JL Sahara for 3800O, I would hace never bought a jk
Carmen Montanez hi Carmen you got a great deal! Unfortunently the features I wanted in a sahara like LED, color painted hard top and so on, put mine almost at 50k bit thanks for watching!!!
The JL 8-Speed Automatic compared to the JK 5 Speed automatic is a huge difference. My JKUR seemed powerful enough with 35" Tires and and the 5-speed. Our NEW 2019 JLUR is so much better with the 8-Speed. We are running 37" tires on the JLUR and it has so much more power than the JK just from the 8-speed transmission. I was thinking I might need to regear for the 37's but no need. When I buy a vehicle I don't buy it for the Rims and tires that are on it. I will never buy a dealer fixed up vehicle unless you want to pay double what it would cost to build it up yourself. I add my own Rims and tires to every vehicle I purchase. Dealers charge too much. We had to test it out after being only a week old on the John Bull trail here in Big Bear California. You should be happy with both but if its not about price get the JL.
Began jk production 2011 my ass
Jeepin John lol thats great check out the description below and my latest video for clarification
Hey man what seats do you have on your JK? Looking for some nice leather seats that wont break the bank.
They are a combination of Sports Mesh and Leather, it is exclusive to the Winter edition Model, however you may be able to find them online by searching for those seats! Check out my Video where you can have a more detailed look!!!
ruclips.net/video/Y3UH0qyskas/видео.html
7:38 minutes listening to your reasons convinced me that you have little knowledge of the jeep wrangler. your future reasoning hopefully will be based on engine details, transmission case, gears (not if one has 8 speed vs 6! But actual gear ratios), suspension, overland performance etc. However, you appeared to be a typical walmart driver paying attention to how the wheels look and if it has LED and if they look pretty. These things matter when you want to buy a toyota hybrid cars or maybe jeep GC but NOT a jeep wrangler! Finally, the pinned comment about "its what i could afford" then why don't you just make a one minute and say that at the beginning!
Lmao this guy and a mall crawler
Darren Arnett yes she is mostly a pavement princess lol
I own JK, but I personally like the look of JL better. In my opinion only one JK line can really compete with JL when it comes to design is Rubicon Recon 2 doors with manual transmission, so that’s exactly what I got. And after replacing factory shifter with B&M performance, it took my Jeep to a different level. Congrats to all JL owners! Jeep is Jeep no matter what. And don’t forget to get a max care lifetime warranty, you’ll need it 😀👍
Hey guys, would you buy the 2016 rubicon JK unlimited or the 2018 sports JL unlimited?.
the 3.8l jk came out in 07, then at some point they changed the engine and interior. i have an 07 jk. but it was 2 year old when i got it so any recalls at the time had been taken care of.
Blah blah blah.stick to ur hotel reviews
west wood haha thats great! I must admit I love reviewing hotels but the demand is high for my jeep sorry :)
About the only reason anyone should buy the jk is because of price that's it.
Nice video!
I just bought a brand new JK too. I really don't like the look of the JL's, and of course there's the fear of problems popping up in the beginning of a new model. Sometimes it takes a couple of years to work out the new bugs. Maybe in a few years, I could get used to the "Look" of the JL's, but right now, for me, they just don't have that classic "Jeep look". Plus, mine is a beefed up, Rocky Ridged-up (if that's a word?), Grumpered (I know that's not a word!), kinda' beast of a Jeep, and the JL's (in my opinion) just don't look as cool if you're going for the aggressive look.
Mike S I agree thanks for watching!!!
You made a good decision. I also have 2017 Rubicon unlimited with 5 speed automatic and get good mileage 10.3 to 10.5 L per 100 Km on highway.
You talked a lot about your Jeep JK purchase and no walk around vid?
You could of ordered a JL. Your jk is nice for a jk but the JL absolutely destroys a JK. You just didn't want to pay for it which is fine.
Urgent, pls help! Not sure about frame welds -- was it on a specific build date range or run?
I do have a similar question about 2018 ruby vs Sahara but there's a TWIST.
Pricing is the same now for a 2018 JK Rubicon OR a 2018 JL Sahara. Which one? I don't plan on serious off-roading. Probably.
But for camp/hiking, biking, some snow.
My FIRST jeep.
I test drove a JL sport last year, automatic.
But I can get either a JL Sahara or a JK Rubicon. And yes I like some of the creature comforts and wouldn't mind a factory rearview camera. *yes I know I can get one installed on the JK.
I can compare build sheets and axles all day long but in need an experienced advisor.
WHAT SHOULD I DO??
Joseph D it’s been over a year since I made this video. Although I still Love my JK Wrangler Winter Edition if you want creature comforts and not doing any serious off-roading is go with the JL Sahara
The Rubicon will hold a better resale value & are a lot easier to sell.
Lol only 4K off msrp? I just bought a JL Sahara for 6% under INVOICE. Dude come on....LED Lighting package is only a $800 option.....
Stephen Bova valid point but I still love my JK! The Winter Edition specifically lol I admit im not as good negotiator as some other folks on here no doubt in 5-6 years I will be much better at this lol for now I am happy :) plus the JK aftermarket is amazing I know the JL will eventually catchup but right now only MOPAR makes stuff for the JL and its ridiculous overpriced! Imo
The manual transmittion you might of gotten a little better gas milage between station even in the city. Though the auto make daily driving easier
Dealerships are practically giving the 2017 away...
Jay Suttle i agree had I waited I probably could have gotten alot more off but I wanted the Winter edition in White and it was hard to find
Angel's Travel Unravel. Hey man I deleted my last comment because it wasn't tasteful, I have a 2010' wrangler unlimited w/ cloth seats & I'm mad & FUCK I can't afford the new JL LOL !!!
Jay Suttle your still a part of Jeepwave Nation Brother! Keep on Jeeping!!!! I will probably get a JL i 5-6 years lol when the Chinese market catches up another good reason to not get one now is the only accessories are mopar and spot lights are 500 dollars lol
Angel's Travel Unravel. Thank bra enjoy !! I now follow you..
Jay Suttle welcome!!!! New video this week installing an Spod alternative and light bar and spot lights!
If you’re thinking to keep that jk for the rest of your life then you’re good if not you made a horrible mistake those jk’s are going to depreciate in value in the upcoming months while the jl are going to take over the jeep market.
Robert Bravo I disagree but only time will tell thanks for watching! :)
The halogens on the new JL's are very good compared to the JK halogens. I own the new JL Sport S. And I haven't had any problems with it. I think Fiat has stepped up their game.
plus now that the new JL is out, the JK is going to start looking dated.
Phillip Craggs that may be true but personally me nothing beats LED’s still though I wish I waited jjst a little longer to get an even better deal as I read they are giving away Jk’s now but im still very happy! Keep on Jeeping!
2017 Wrangler 57,000 miles new radiator, front axle seal, 12 rocker arms on right hand head not perfected by any means.
Your dealbreakers were very easy mods! Have you ever installed a led light kit? Lol I respect you but also think those are silly dealbreakers
Rebecca Smith hey Rebecca while Inagree with you know at the time of recording the JL was Brand new, and the dealer had me convinced there was no way of converting to LEDS from halogen furthermore the lack of aftermarket accessories at the time was also a big determining factor, now it’s a different ball game but I gs to make a decision a year ago
Sup man great vids. You should start a RUclips channel just for the JK mods. I myself have a 16jku and really enjoy it. 🤙🍻
ventura80503 thanks for watching please subscribe I have a section of videos for my mods so far check it out!
Informative Thanks!!!! Went with JK Rubicon!!!!
But looks good than JK...JL is much improve JK..
Ryan Rabe i have to agree on one thing the JL has a much sweeter interior you will get no argument from me there lol
Angel's Travel Unravel I prefer the interior on the JK. Not a fan of the colored dash in the JL.
JL Sport is for you to fix up. LED Lights and rims kept you form getting a JL? Why not Pay more for JL Sahara?
Edmund Phu the problem for me was the drastic price difference of the JL sport and the JL sahara was a crazy jump it may have just been what was available at the time
The only thing that i would really want in a jeep wrangler is leather seats heated seats and stripped out radio and nav computer and my 35 inch tires and dyna 60 axeles
captianjessie1 agreed I love my leather and sports mesh combo
You did not get more bang for the buck with the JK. I hope you don't regret your decision in the upcoming months!
Harvey Bialk hey Harvey thanks so much for the feedback I am doing a video now where After one month ownership and 1,000 miles driven do I regret my decision stay tuned!
how is the rear leg room for adults?
The JK rides bouncer than the JL beause it is more like a car.
Jon Hettrick i agree
Yea but now you go a JK that will be worth less resale. And the JL is the best Jeep I have ever driven! Sorry my friend, you made the wrong choice.
I disagree but to each its own, who knows maybe I will trade her in in 5 years for a JL lol but for now I think personally I made the right choice :). Thanks for watching!
Wranglers are known to keep value. Don’t know what you are talking about.
Scott Herrick hi buddy thanks for watching I am very happy with my jk and happy with my choice but still thanks for watching !!!
I got 3k off the msrp on my JL fully optioned rubicon
Jesus Sanchez at the time when I went to buy one there were no rebates and they gave nothing off this is back in January I see alot of the programs now and there great you git a great deal congrats!
Both the Pentastar and the WA580 5-speed automatic transmission were introduced into the JK in 2012, with the interior refresh happening the year before. Even though the powertrain is somewhat dated now, the JK is still a great Jeep. Sure, it doesn't have the bells and whistles of the JL, but it's still just as capable. If you're happy with what you've got, good for you.
Spanked78 thanks for the feedback!!!! I appreciate it!!! And yes I love it!!!!! Shes amazing! JK!!!!!!
you city boys like dem 4wd Fiats ?
cayogator we do lol
Definitely right...
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No experience with the Jeep wrangler. A soy boy who does what his wife says. 😂
Corrie Baker you know what they say....happy wife happy life lmaoo but your right its my first wrangler and I love it!!! Just cracked 1k miles today!
You right lights flashing and all that electrical stuff is why iam going jk. I live in Louisiana we used a jeep . Going to get 2018 jk. It's funny you Yankees let your wife tell you what to buy. Mine stays home when I go buy something. 😂
Train Bennett you know what they say, happy wife happy life hahahahaha lol thanks for watching!
2011?
Sgt G hey Buddy when I said that I was referring to the mid cycle refresh not the 07-2010 sorry l did not say that