37604 Cold Start..
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- We were tasked to go up to Mossend and collect 37604 which had been sat here for a while in a cold snap !
It was going to be easier if it would move under its own power so after a few minutes it eventually did.
Thought I lost this vid as Ive changed the phone twice since 2015
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You can almost count each stroke of the pistons. Love these old girls!
I advice you to search for 'karrendag'
If you like to count strokes that's the place for you.
It's about running old Dutch ship engines that were saved from the scrapyard. My favorite is the "Industrie 2vd5".)
Lovely, one cylinder at a time. EEs never did like starting on cold mornings.
The cylinders went for a committee meeting, when to fire, in what order and so on, the union was at hand to mediate between the firing, the electric starter and the fuel introduction sub-committees :D
@@sts1243f very good, most amusing, I like your explanation, thanks for the light humour😂
I like the cute little smoke rings it keeps sending up!
me to 37's are just wonderful
They are called sleep rings
i know right. it’s like a cartoon
In groups of three!
How lovely. :3
With a very heavy workload preserving and restoring old trains, and medicine I take for nerve and joint pain, I keep coming back to this video as a visual of what getting up in the mornings is like. Especially on three or four hours of sleep a night for weeks on end. At least people have what the locomotives don't: Coffee.
Man these trains are amazing from Serbia here and when i found out about british trains ive been obsessed by them even got a old Trying Class 37 set and a Static class 45 45022.
D37604: "Ugh, why so early in the morning, (yawns).
Nickel Plate Nerd *D6707
“It’s like, twelve. Walk the dog. Pick up sticks. I don’t care, just get out of the house”
the sound of the starter is the loco groaning.
why does this remind me of trying to wake a teenager on a school day
Like any middle-aged man who feels he's been woken too early. Grumpy & takes time to come alive 100%.
"We're running out of tape..."
"Thats only the second cylinder now"
This takes me back to starting old Gardner diesels in winter. My uncle used to use an oily rag, set it alight and hold it near the air intake to get some warmth into the cylinders. If you were really posh, you had an old Tilly style paraffin blowtorch. Once it fired you went and had a brew and returned once all the inevitable clag had cleared.
i used a Tilly Blow torch to start a Guy Big J
They was great days. Loved the sound of the Gardner engine.
@@andybenfield79 Not English Electric?
@@RedArrow73 not sure what you mean my friend.
☝Symphatisch ✌😅
I love how after starter cuts out engine manages to run at 1 RPM for so long before deciding that it will have to start. How much easier it would be if they had pre-heat like cars, though not as photogenic or fun !!
they start with air no starter
Probably got a 2 tonne flywheel
@@planeiron241 Sorry but they use batteries to turn a starter these days
@@planeiron241 This one has starter motors but before rebuilds they used the main traction generator as a starter motor they have never been air start
Ok you railway diesel men. Tell me this. Worked on trucks cars smaller diesels. As has been pointed out what cold start aids do these have.. excess fuel pre heat dynamic retarder. Also whet fires one 1 cylinder open the throttle I am sure the 1 cylinder will drag the rest into life by increase rpm
There's a warm place in my heart for a 37
That's frigging awesome! The engineering behind huge diesel and also steam engines is so fascinating.
Thanks
We had a hand crank diesel compressor with one cylinder. Screw a lit fusee into the cylinder while cranking. The trick is to pull the crank back at the moment the engine "caught" or you had the engine spinning the crank dangerously fast. The chug chug chug of the engine catching in the mountain air was a delightful sound and a fond memory.
Don’t think I would try that on this beast tho 😂
@@Xpl0r 🙂
Used to love starting them up on Sellafield on a cold winter morning, covering site in black foul smelling diesel exhaust!!
Oh it was you, you bugger ;)
Didn’t know 37s did smoke signals must be trying tell us something
It's too cold this morning, let me go back to bed!
Doughnuts!
the 37 is trying to signal to thomas
@@Fleeglebutt Yes please
...that starter motor is the PERFECT sound for this cartoon~ faced diesel...
Fantastic, been onboard a deltic at Doncaster in the 70s, got lucky as a kid with my mum and the driver let us on for a look around ,just the look and colours are magic, and the deltic/piston arrangement is just so awesome special.
Sounds great!
Erm. This isn't a deltic!
@@steveluckhurst2350 Haven't been on board one of these 🤡
Imagine the person having the keep their finger on the start button for that long.
If you stopped it was a bugger to start again
I can imagine..... I'd be tempted to clamp a bit of wood on there to keep it pressed!
The start button is released at 0:33
@G Rossi Thanks for the info, I didn't know that.
@@highbrookendmodelrailway On the Budapest metro line 3 an automatic train driving system was installed in the 80s. The driver just operates the doors and then has to hold down a "start" button until the train completely leaves the station. Now holding down the button for long seconds is of course veeery exhausting. According to older metro drivers, one could just keep down the button by squeezing a coin in the rim, and since the train won't leave with open doors, start the trains by closing the doors. This worked until one driver got out on the (manual) cab door while the train was at the storage track at the last (over the ground) station. Just to see that the train, as it received a green light signal, dashed away without a driver on board... After that incident the operator replaced all the start buttons with mushroom-shaped ones.
I've only ever seen one fire up at Tinsley depot in 1986 awesome experience I love these beasts they're the best locos ever built for br railway in the swinging 60s
Top video! It’s a crafty technical detail built into the class 37s to communicate to other locos in the yard via smoke signals that they’ll soon be rumbling through…it won’t be pretty…and sure as hell won’t be quiet!
Nice to see that this class is still in service,and I love that sound.
❤louvely
I love how it starts off with one cylinder firing and the rest of them all join in one at a time lol
It's nice to see a 37 cold start! I love 37's
Love the build up to it starting!👍
Oh praise Him, Oh praise Him, Alleluiah, Alleluiah, Alleluiah... for some reason, listening to this loco start up made me think of school assembly hymns.
Watching this somehow reminds me of my dad and his Carpi in the early 80s. In the winter he would place thick woollen blanket over the engine every night after he came home from work
A guy from work did the blanket thing though this was in the late 90s after he'd driven to work and parked up. Half hour later his car was on fire.
Brilliant footage mate, thanks for sharing. Absolutely fantastic start sequence with these old machines, smoking away like chimneys! Close your eyes Greta! Have subbed your channel, I’ve got a few reviews, and a running session of concrete bob in drs livery if your interested in having a look but not had the pleasure of seeing his older brother in the flesh yet! All the best and thanks again, Paul
Greta: How dare you!😀
This is definitely top ten cold start ever !
Thanks
Cool smoke show! 🚂👍
good old girl :-) and she was very cold :-( bless her - good capture
my favourite diesel! Just gorgeous..
Nice smoke rings.
Similar to a Challenger 2 starting on a cold day in Germany.
Nothing quite like a large diesel engine. Imagine all the work they have done over the last century.
Great rail therapy....I like IT!!!!....ALL THE BEST from ROMANIA!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
0:11 sounds like a horror movie that is very intense
I’m amazed there are no block heaters to ease the starting although I’m sure these engines have been designed with -40’C cold starts, still the straining to ignite is evident.
I dont know why but i was highly entertained by this.that screeching sound when it was cranking ahhh i love it
This was a good start up compared to the French diesel start up on here somewhere.
@@kevodowd5282 where that video at i gotta see it now
No to jest konkretny rozrusznik!
Now that is sweet music to my ears thankyou for sharing
This is the famous delta engine with 6 pistons in a triangle configuration and without any need for a cylinder head and a vulnerable head gasket?
Beautiful engine, beautiful sound. Designed in a time when people still mattered.
Almost as if some prehistoric monster wakes up. At least, one of them.
No, not the Napier Deltic, that is class 55. This class 37 has an English Electric 12CSVT = 12 cylinder, interCooler, Supercharged (though actually it was an exhaust driven turbocharger not an engine driven supercharger, V format, Traction engine (as opposed to Marine type).
@@Grid56
Boy, do I feel stupid.
But I guess that means I've learned something new today.
Thank you for that.
2:30 almost! 37604, almost started, keep going!
So iconic I have watched this vid more than 10x 😍😘
Those EE engines will still be running after those engines that rely on to many sensors that power the class 66 will be worn out.
those EMD 710s are reliable as hell
It's scary how the smoke is the same color as it is in a runaway as the engine just starts to get going.
Just the sound my old Ford Consul (built 1953) used to make in its later years.
I always did find it funny how they start with a couple of cylinders firing, the whole time blowing smoke rings into the air. Then the other cylinders get motivated and join in
that's the reason why german locomotives even in the 60's were preheated before cranking. :P The coolant never goes below 40°C in Winter, and are warmed up to 60°C before the engine goes in service.
These were designed to be left idling the whole time, so starting would be very rare. And then diesel got all expensive in the 1970s...
@@beeble2003 I think there is the main difference. In UK and many other developed countries there was much fuel available in the time between end of WWII and the 70's. So nobody cared about saving some gallons. But I think in Germany during the war fuel was rare... because.... yes.... nobody want to sell oil to the Nazis of corse and we do not have any natural resources. And after the war it was hard to rebuild all the industry and re-developing trading chains. And I think even if there was enaugh fuel available later on in western germany there was still the mindset and the bad experiences of war like: "what if we are cut out from global trade again?" So shutting down engines when they are not needed and keeping them warm with an auxillary heater is truely more efficient than idleing all the time even when it was more expensive to include such a device. Today for the last remaining engines of the late 60's and early 70's (for instance BR (Class) 218) they are lucky about having that heaters on board so they can treat the engines like a car. They also have AC Power from the grid to plug in the engines to keep the batteries charged that they don't run flat over night.
@@RundeKatze Yes, that makes a lot of sense.
Excellent this cold start !
too the old beast a minute but it finally blew the cobs out and woke up fully ,,,sounds like my 1977 peterbilt with it's 16V71 detroit
crank it till it lights 1 cylinder and it'll set there choking and bitchin and gradually lights 1 more cylinder at a time ,,,finally after 3 minutes it's running and warming up
This one is still my favourite: ruclips.net/video/yPzubVpLYAc/видео.html
604 blowing smoke rings like a pro! 😎
Can’t beat the sound of diesel clatter
Fantastic cold start
We used to have a blow torch in the inlet.worked a treat warm air inducted ha ha ha.T800Aust
my favourite cold start video
The pistons are having a rite old disco 😂
This class 37 can't make its mind up whether or not a new Pope has been appointed 🤣
The man with his finger on the button wasn’t letting go 😂
The art of gentle persuasion!!
this is the coldest, COLDEST start i've ever seen in my life😂
my escort van sounded similar to this .
Those godawful things sounded like that when they were petrol and warmed up - aka the Clattery Vapid and Harsh engines - the diesels were the quieter of the two, or they were supposed to be like that..
Back in the early 90's, This is exactly how the ole RPS trucks would start in Florida on a cold winter day at 6 am in the morning when the delivery trucks were finally loaded with their packages ready for the delivery day. They would completely fill the warehouse with smoke!
Love the 37’s and how they sound. Great video hope my OO version sounds as good when it arrives in miniature!! Subscribed 👍
Thanks for the sub!
Imagine having do that every time you want to nip to the shop for some cigs
OH WOW the poor starter motor sounding like that long blonde haired bloke from the Eurovision Song Contest, a taster before the main feature, the Tractor coughing chuffing farting blowing smoke rings like a forty a day grandad.
Best cold start
That thing needed fire out of the stack that went at least 10feet or more in the air🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥
I think that the cylinder bores are rather worn therefore the PSI at TDC is below spec causing sluggish starting and white smoke, the exhaust smoke is ladened with unburnt fuel so it probably would be best to avoid smoking a cigarette with all that white smoke in the air.
luckily I don’t smoke then 👍
BATTERY LEADS BEING USED TO COOK BREAKFAST like in steam days 😂😂😂😂 sssssszzzzzzzzizzzzzle LOVE those Mirrlees..... OK Lets try for 2 cylinders?......awwww ok.....dink....donk.....donk.....KOFF......DONK....DINK....BBRRRRR MMM........OK NOW THREE?🤷🏼♂️ Come on old girl - SUPERB VIDEO I love cold starts.
Not Mirlees, English Electric finery
Sounds happy once woken up !
Wooo amazing! 🔥 Very nice video! Love diesel locomototive
super nice they way he smile walking to take the camera he enjoy the start so he love is job !
Awesome 💨 💨 💨 thanks for sharing mate...
Thanks for watching
Living proof, never give up lol
Love the smoke rings!!!
Didn’t anybody give the starter motor a hug because that is some hard cranking in the cold.
A big hug or was it a kick
It doesn't look like a blue police box, but it sounds like one.
very nice !
These trains didn't be used for emergency !
It reminds my girlfriend starting and warming her old Citroen GS mk1 in the 80's in cold morning ....not a diesel but very tricky !
Why did they not have an engine heater/ oil heater powered by diesel on a timer?Use a few gallons of diesel to heat the engine before a cold start. Tons better for the engine and not killing starters and batteries.
Blowing some perfect smoke rings at times too !!
Smoke rings. Cool 👍
Wow, sounds like melody - creepy but beautiful
Fantastic sound ! 👍
Glad you like it!
@@Xpl0r How could you not ? 😎
I bet someone was counting the smoke rings.
Fantastic shots ! 👍
In Germany the V200 had external electric heating, so it was never cold, when it started.
They had no pre heating for the diesel that's why the white smoke ! Most of the fitters that worked on them found it easier to take it to the workshop and take the engine out to work on it cause you had no room while the engine was in situation
If I were to start 🚂 train 🚂 engine,i would dance 🕺 with the knocking sound every morning,for great 👍 stretch’s 🧘🏿♀️🕺💪for great 👍 day ahead .thank you 🙏
👍🙏❤️🙏🚂🚂👋💃🕺
0:36 huge smoke rings are great!
1:39 "yeah mate you can put it on RUclips, but could you blur out my high viz? Ta."
Alycidon Deltic interesting that there is no blur anymore
I fell into a burning ring of fi... smoke;)
Now remember !
Misbehave in life and you'll come back as battery 😅
Easily one of the best locos ever
The jellyfish style smoke rings do it for me😍
And that is the reason we have electronic diesel control now. Overfuelling only gets you so far in a cold start. It actually hampers engine acceleration after first firing.
You should see the Perkins (Rolls-Royce) CV12, Challenger engine under cold start: Little donkey engine coughs into life and runs upto 3600rpm, fuel fired inlet heater fires up, main engine cranks and begins to fire on one cylinder then the whole shoe vanishes in a cloud of acrid white smoke as the other 11 cylinders begin to join in.
Got me looking at CV12 wonder why railway never used smaller high speed diesels like the CV 12 as a 16 cylinder should give over 2000hp . Is longevity they were after ? using large low speed diesels like the EE one's in locomotives but they did use smaller higher speed one in HST the Paxman Valenta
@@andymath1523 technically those engines, like the Valenta are know as medium speed diesels. CV 12 is capable of developing a shed load of horse power but it's durability isn't good enough for Rail use at the higher power levels. With typical loco life expectancy of 30-40 years and high load profiles the CV wouldn't come close. Mostly the CV was designed for Military and Standby Power applications.
I developed a Caterpillar C18 for Rail use, the engine even launched at the Hamburg rail expo, but a pissing match ensued between the two Cat plants that we're bidding to manufacture it and EMD, the Cat business unit sponsoring it, pulled the plug on the job. Very frustrating for me and the rest of the team who had spent 18 months making the job happen, to the point where I handed my notice in and went to play with Napier Celtics at Rolls-Royce.
Look at the rings of smoke.
That’s to signal danger or gather people
@@amacca2085 For me it would be gathering people.
Cold starts just like my old diesel 97 Ford Sierra.. Must admit the 376 took shorter time to settle 🤣
Dont know what it is with diesel cold starts, but its pretty cool 🙂
I had a mark 4 Ford Cortina that started (sometimes) just like that - except for the smoke-rings though!
Why trains are late all the Ffibg time.
There blowing smoke rings. I remember being a painter in CLAPHAM JUNCTION . This Goods train suddenly revved up and blasted the Wooden tiles off the Roof of platform 3. Lol. About 5 people literally fell over and dived for cover like it was a Bombing attack. Well funny. . Blasted my ears too. The big DIESELS are not supposed to full throttle in stations. It blows the roof off. Lol. 😅
The first bit sounded like the needle got stuck on the record. 😂
2:04 imagine this was a Taco Bell joke
I only found out recently that BR would leave their Class 56's running at the depot over the cold new year period to stop the cold getting to them.
ok if you don't mind glazed cylinder bores.
@@naysmith5272 and high lub oil consumption. Not recommended.
At Bath Road Diesel Depot during BR ownership, at one time, on really cold nights they used to start up each loco or DMU in turn. Let each one run for a bit, then once nice and warm shut it down. Then before it got too cold, repeat the sequence. At least, that’s what I was told.