Its good to see full episodes again, since i didnt have access to the other networks. Now i can start watching episodes on saturday mornings like old times lol I would make a mess with the dipstick i will just carry a funnel in the back
Thanks Stacey for the awesome video, I have an '02 WS6 in my garage to & love to see all the information you give on the channel. Reminds me of good times when I would wake up & see you on Saturday's it was the start of my weekend.
Man I miss those weekends watching morning car shows with pops ....I still have the love of cars he put in me ...thank you Stacy for helping me keep those weekend days alive in my memory....miss you pop the fire bird is in your grandsons hands now he may not have know who you are but he has your love of motor all the same
Great to see the big brake and awesome wheel/package!!! Just an FYI for viewers, stock brake components with high performance brake pads, stainless braided brake line s and a Strano master cylinder brace are up to any street or autocross use. For road racing Motul 600 brake fluid, Porterfield race pads and brake ducts work great. Don't get me wrong I'd prefer the $5k brake kit! Thanks for video!!! Really helpful to see exactly how to remove the axles. I haven't done it yet but will be doing bearings soon
This is my dream build car. I use to thumb through summit catalogs and look up all of the parts to build, someday I still hope to have a car like this with everything done just like it.
Stacey, Love watching you transform vehicle's into art and awesome show stoppers!! Been following you since Trucks and I must say I am a huge fan 😎 I'm trying to get a channel going but with prices and shipping and availability of parts it's a struggle. Hopefully soon I can get setup and goin. Thanks for the content and keep the rubber side down 👍 Later!!
SO miss my triple black 1989 TA with the 5.7 (not the GTA model, just the GT special ordered with the 5.7) Never should've sold her. But now I'm on a mission to find a silver 2000-2002 WS6 TA! Love these videos! 🍺🍺🏁🏁
There is 1 more upgrade that he should have performed. The factory hubs are ok at best but once you start driving your Firebird or Camaro like a madman, the hubs are gonna wear out fast. You need to order up a pair of C5 SKF X-Tracker Hubs from Detroit Speed. Make sure you get the SKF 4th Gen F-Body Hubs that come with the ABS Connector that will need to be re-pinned which is very easy with just a paper clip. The instructions are very easy to read and understand. While your on the phone or on Detroit Speeds website, I would order up their complete 98-02 LS1 Steering Rack especially if the stock rack is leaking power steering fluid like most do now with how old these cars are getting...
I've actually broken two stock style hubs. At that point t it's only the caliper bracket keeping the tire on the car. Second time was at Watkins Glen. Coming through the SS's the car is heavily loaded on the left, I hear a "klick" noise. I coast into a run off area at the end of the back straight to wait for the session to end. Sure enough it was completed broken off. I changed them regularly and always carried a spare. With a Strano adapter to use C5 bearing mentioned haven't had a problem for many years.
The 4th gen f-body will fit 315/30-18 on all 4 corners. I'm currently running 315/30-18 rear and 295/35-18 front on my 98 trans am. The front tires are being upgraded to 315s. The car is lowered on a strano autocross suspension with no rub. The wheels are corvette 18x10.5 front and rear.
@peterwittman6682 Thanks for chiming in. What wheels and offsets are you using and what tires did you go with? I'm running 315 35 17 on the rear with ZR1 replica 17 inch wheels. I have 275's on the front. The ZR1 wheel doesn't fit the front on my car. With 275's the car understeers and as the fronts start to overheat it understeer alot. Tires are Nitto R888R. Thanks for any info you can offer
Subframe connectors aren't needed for the stock LS. He's not putting an LS7 in it or anything like that. Subframe connectors are only needed when you're getting close to doubling the stock hp rating.
I've had several LS powered vehicles and 4 4th Gen F Bodies that either had a 402ci LS2, turbocharged 408, full bolt on with heads and cam LS1, and just a full bolt on. I absolutely LOVE these cars but you really should do some heads, cam, intake, headers, exhaust. Or better yet throw all those parts on a LS3 bottom end.
315 is wide yes, but it is not the widest* you can fit, my 98 z28 has 345s on the rear, c6 z06 wheels, yeah you gotta BFH your wheel wells and re-undercoat it, but it is doable
Stacy as always great content ... i now I will get flack for says this ... but as a 4th gen owner myself throwing 20k worth of parts is crazy for this platform when you can use the money to step up to a new platform with all this stuff already in place ... becuase yes these parts will make the car handle better but company's like this give the illusion that is will bring this car up modern standards from its live axle setup. Yes I am betting this was a sponsored car to sell products. When there are so many cheaper alternatives to set up these cars .. where I wished you would have explored..
Good question! We'll probably talk more about this in a podcast, but it all depends on your skill level and tool selection. Since the engines in these cars almost have to come out from below, it would be MUCH easier with a lift. From there, I would do lots of research on how much of the ECU can work with the LS1. It might be more work than it's worth. - Gearz Team
I've been a fan for many years, but I really dont understand why, when you have the axel out, would you not go ahead and replace the seals and baring's? They are cheap and you can do easily while it's easy to get to.
How did you fit 315s in the rear without tubbing wheel well and rolling the fenders? Those tires are gonna rub hard at that width! Love the build tho 😃
It's actually a very common size upgrade in the 4th Gen community. I did it on mine as well. A few people have said they've noticed a slight rubbing in the inner wheel well but only needed to hit it with a hammer a few times for the extra clearance. Def no tubing required although some have also rolled their fenders. I myself haven't had any issues with mine. No hammer or rolling fenders needed
@@harryyambag8761 Interesting 🤔 I wonder if some fbodies are different than others. I want to get 315s, but the normal 275s already seem like a tight fit on my '96. I like the look of the 315s in the rear.
@@markovich3605 not sure if the lt1s were any different but I don't think they were. I think it comes down to any suspension mods and the tires themselves. Even though they might be the same size, there are def some that are wider than the others. I always noticed it most going from nittos to bf Goodrich drag radials. The nittos have a slimmer profile for whatever reason.
@@harryyambag8761 Idk if the LS and LT cars are too different (wheel well wise at least, lol). I have a friend with an '01 Z28 and he got 315s in there with a BFH and had to roll the fenders. I forget the tire size. Hey, maybe i just gotta go for it and see what sticks haha I just dont like the idea of slamming the body with a hammer. 17x11s with 315s just looks badass on 4th gens.
Contact the companies directly as prices may have changed since we completed this project. Baer Brakes, Forgeline Wheels, and Mickey Thompson Tires were the major parts suppliers in this episode.
Make sure you don't overfill the 10 bolt rear end or even if you have a aftermarket 12 bolt rear cause you will have a leak coming out of the axle seals.
For track use I put a breather on the top vent. I got it from my local speed shop. It's a little ceramic type filter/breather. Keeps the diff from leaking through the vent It was leaking badly before Installing the new breather
In case nobody has noticed,... Stacy has added 15,000 dollars to this WS6 and hasn't even gotten to the body, interior, or engine! Finally, true folks! This is strictly a rich man hobby now! No more back yard mechanics,...no matter how much fun it was. Greed has made you strictly a spectator! Well, that's unless you want to live in an RV in Quartzside, Arizona! To bad. Now to teach your son to fix his car, just train him to be an electrician! Sad. I knew I would die, but I never expected my favorite past time to die before me.
Im 20, in university, and a gen 4 Trans Am is my dream car. I’d love to fix up my own, but no one’s ever taught me how to work with cars. I think I have the persistence to figure it out, if it weren’t for the cost. I’ll have to wait till im in my 30’s before I have enough money to even try. So yeah. Its sad, but maybe one day I can cough up the money and make it happen.
I remember when I could find 2nd Gen and 3rd Gen Trans Ams between $3,500 and 6 grand for good ones 20 years ago when nobody wanted them used old dad cars. Today they're now desirable classics and you'll be lucky if you can get a good one for $20 grand that doesn't need a new wiring harness or new floors.
Speaking of 4th gen F-body's and Holley Retrobrite lights, why don't you use your connections with your Holley sponsors to help out us 93-97 Camaro owners? The only bolt-in option for headlights is another sealed beam housing and weak halogen bulb that cannot be replaced separately. They're a simple rectangle. Should be pretty easy to replicate. While they're at it make some for 4th gen Pontiacs and all tue 3rd gens and 4 eye Fox Body Mustangs.
Road-course "style" suspension. Style being the operative word. Only the UMI RR kmember has reinforced gussets for serious road course duty. Panhandle bar with the adjuster in the middle is another undesirable design. Drilled rotors, a bling product. Nice selection on Forgeline though.
Lmao crazy to think your not touching one of these LS birds for less then 10k in good running condition.id like to see stacey do something with a truck LS motor.like a work truck or something would be badass
Its good to see full episodes again, since i didnt have access to the other networks. Now i can start watching episodes on saturday mornings like old times lol I would make a mess with the dipstick i will just carry a funnel in the back
Thanks Stacey for the awesome video, I have an '02 WS6 in my garage to & love to see all the information you give on the channel. Reminds me of good times when I would wake up & see you on Saturday's it was the start of my weekend.
Man I miss those weekends watching morning car shows with pops ....I still have the love of cars he put in me ...thank you Stacy for helping me keep those weekend days alive in my memory....miss you pop the fire bird is in your grandsons hands now he may not have know who you are but he has your love of motor all the same
Love it, hasn't lost any of that energy from 20 years ago. Dang, we're all getting old haha.
Great to see the big brake and awesome wheel/package!!!
Just an FYI for viewers, stock brake components with high performance brake pads, stainless braided brake line s and a Strano master cylinder brace are up to any street or autocross use. For road racing Motul 600 brake fluid, Porterfield race pads and brake ducts work great. Don't get me wrong I'd prefer the $5k brake kit! Thanks for video!!!
Really helpful to see exactly how to remove the axles. I haven't done it yet but will be doing bearings soon
So happy to see you on RUclips now, I've been following you since the trucks days.
This is my dream build car. I use to thumb through summit catalogs and look up all of the parts to build, someday I still hope to have a car like this with everything done just like it.
Stacey, Love watching you transform vehicle's into art and awesome show stoppers!! Been following you since Trucks and I must say I am a huge fan 😎 I'm trying to get a channel going but with prices and shipping and availability of parts it's a struggle. Hopefully soon I can get setup and goin. Thanks for the content and keep the rubber side down 👍 Later!!
i been a fan of staceydavid when he was on trucks in 2004
so happy to see you finally doing a 4th gen
Beautiful TA and I love the wheels.
God bless our Veterans. Cool 😎 Caddy
Beautiful car. Gorgeous name & gorgeous design it has.
Great episode as always!!!
SO miss my triple black 1989 TA with the 5.7 (not the GTA model, just the GT special ordered with the 5.7) Never should've sold her. But now I'm on a mission to find a silver 2000-2002 WS6 TA! Love these videos! 🍺🍺🏁🏁
There is 1 more upgrade that he should have performed. The factory hubs are ok at best but once you start driving your Firebird or Camaro like a madman, the hubs are gonna wear out fast. You need to order up a pair of C5 SKF X-Tracker Hubs from Detroit Speed. Make sure you get the SKF 4th Gen F-Body Hubs that come with the ABS Connector that will need to be re-pinned which is very easy with just a paper clip. The instructions are very easy to read and understand. While your on the phone or on Detroit Speeds website, I would order up their complete 98-02 LS1 Steering Rack especially if the stock rack is leaking power steering fluid like most do now with how old these cars are getting...
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I've actually broken two stock style hubs. At that point t it's only the caliper bracket keeping the tire on the car. Second time was at Watkins Glen. Coming through the SS's the car is heavily loaded on the left, I hear a "klick" noise. I coast into a run off area at the end of the back straight to wait for the session to end. Sure enough it was completed broken off. I changed them regularly and always carried a spare. With a Strano adapter to use C5 bearing mentioned haven't had a problem for many years.
@@loum7008 Until just a few months ago, I never new how easy the factory hubs can wear out of break completely.
The 4th gen f-body will fit 315/30-18 on all 4 corners. I'm currently running 315/30-18 rear and 295/35-18 front on my 98 trans am. The front tires are being upgraded to 315s. The car is lowered on a strano autocross suspension with no rub. The wheels are corvette 18x10.5 front and rear.
@peterwittman6682 Thanks for chiming in. What wheels and offsets are you using and what tires did you go with? I'm running 315 35 17 on the rear with ZR1 replica 17 inch wheels. I have 275's on the front. The ZR1 wheel doesn't fit the front on my car. With 275's the car understeers and as the fronts start to overheat it understeer alot. Tires are Nitto R888R. Thanks for any info you can offer
Man you just helped me so much with my F Body camaro build
I'm really surprised that basic subframe connectors were not included on this build.
The single most important suspension upgrade on those cars is sub-frame connectors. How those got overlooked is CRAZY!
It's the mod done before anything else for sure!!
Subframe connectors aren't needed for the stock LS. He's not putting an LS7 in it or anything like that.
Subframe connectors are only needed when you're getting close to doubling the stock hp rating.
as a f-body enthusiast, i thank u sir
Great job 👍👌
Thanks!
👍👍
I've had several LS powered vehicles and 4 4th Gen F Bodies that either had a 402ci LS2, turbocharged 408, full bolt on with heads and cam LS1, and just a full bolt on. I absolutely LOVE these cars but you really should do some heads, cam, intake, headers, exhaust. Or better yet throw all those parts on a LS3 bottom end.
Awesome!!
Stacey, how do you determine wheel and tire sizes when upgrading? Also when adjusting ride height
Does the Baer fixed caliper mount cause any issues with the free floating rotors on c-clip axles?
probably the same issue as the guys running 09-14 ctsv calipers front and rear have to tap the brakes or install anti knockback springs in those
Should use thread locker on the differential pin cross bolt.
specs on wheels??? I know they are 17x9.5" and 17x11, but what about back spacing on each???
315 is wide yes, but it is not the widest* you can fit, my 98 z28 has 345s on the rear, c6 z06 wheels, yeah you gotta BFH your wheel wells and re-undercoat it, but it is doable
How do I order those brakes? I tried to follow the link in the description but I can’t find the same set up
This should help! baer.com/1993-2002-F-Body-Camaro-FireBird-TransAm-Brakes/
What is the offset on the wheels?
Stacy as always great content ... i now I will get flack for says this ... but as a 4th gen owner myself throwing 20k worth of parts is crazy for this platform when you can use the money to step up to a new platform with all this stuff already in place ... becuase yes these parts will make the car handle better but company's like this give the illusion that is will bring this car up modern standards from its live axle setup. Yes I am betting this was a sponsored car to sell products. When there are so many cheaper alternatives to set up these cars .. where I wished you would have explored..
Have you ever swapped the 3.8L V6 for the V8 LS1? Is that something doable for a weekend wrencher.
Good question! We'll probably talk more about this in a podcast, but it all depends on your skill level and tool selection. Since the engines in these cars almost have to come out from below, it would be MUCH easier with a lift. From there, I would do lots of research on how much of the ECU can work with the LS1. It might be more work than it's worth. - Gearz Team
Nice ! ❤️😎
What brand are those purple skates you guys use?
They're GoJak brand
@@OfficialStaceyDavid thanks, I've been looking for some good ones.
I've been a fan for many years, but I really dont understand why, when you have the axel out, would you not go ahead and replace the seals and baring's? They are cheap and you can do easily while it's easy to get to.
How did you fit 315s in the rear without tubbing wheel well and rolling the fenders? Those tires are gonna rub hard at that width!
Love the build tho 😃
It's actually a very common size upgrade in the 4th Gen community. I did it on mine as well. A few people have said they've noticed a slight rubbing in the inner wheel well but only needed to hit it with a hammer a few times for the extra clearance. Def no tubing required although some have also rolled their fenders. I myself haven't had any issues with mine. No hammer or rolling fenders needed
@@harryyambag8761 Interesting 🤔 I wonder if some fbodies are different than others. I want to get 315s, but the normal 275s already seem like a tight fit on my '96. I like the look of the 315s in the rear.
@@markovich3605 not sure if the lt1s were any different but I don't think they were. I think it comes down to any suspension mods and the tires themselves. Even though they might be the same size, there are def some that are wider than the others. I always noticed it most going from nittos to bf Goodrich drag radials. The nittos have a slimmer profile for whatever reason.
@Mark Yurkovich, I have also read and heard that TA's have wider fenders than Camaros, but regardless, 315s are a very common fitment for fbodies...
@@harryyambag8761 Idk if the LS and LT cars are too different (wheel well wise at least, lol). I have a friend with an '01 Z28 and he got 315s in there with a BFH and had to roll the fenders. I forget the tire size.
Hey, maybe i just gotta go for it and see what sticks haha I just dont like the idea of slamming the body with a hammer.
17x11s with 315s just looks badass on 4th gens.
👍
I love my 98 trans am ws6 but mine is black 6 speed
How much for all this im interested in this upgrade for my 98 Camaro?
Contact the companies directly as prices may have changed since we completed this project. Baer Brakes, Forgeline Wheels, and Mickey Thompson Tires were the major parts suppliers in this episode.
Make sure you don't overfill the 10 bolt rear end or even if you have a aftermarket 12 bolt rear cause you will have a leak coming out of the axle seals.
For track use I put a breather on the top vent. I got it from my local speed shop. It's a little ceramic type filter/breather. Keeps the diff from leaking through the vent It was leaking badly before Installing the new breather
@@loum7008 First time hearing of someone doing that.
Great idea for adding oil, but my car doesn't leak or burn oil between changes
Stacey gives me some ideas for a hot rod project.
Such a complex parking brake..basically a set of drum brakes. But I guess these multi piston rear calipers don't have and E-brake like stock.
What’s the blue car in the back?
The Cheetah! Check out the Playlist on my channel to catch up on it.
I would have replaced the bearings and seals anyway. Not that expensive.
In case nobody has noticed,... Stacy has added 15,000 dollars to this WS6 and hasn't even gotten to the body, interior, or engine!
Finally, true folks!
This is strictly a rich man hobby now!
No more back yard mechanics,...no matter how much fun it was.
Greed has made you strictly a spectator!
Well, that's unless you want to live in an RV in Quartzside, Arizona!
To bad.
Now to teach your son to fix his car, just train him to be an electrician!
Sad.
I knew I would die, but I never expected my favorite past time to die before me.
Im 20, in university, and a gen 4 Trans Am is my dream car.
I’d love to fix up my own, but no one’s ever taught me how to work with cars. I think I have the persistence to figure it out, if it weren’t for the cost. I’ll have to wait till im in my 30’s before I have enough money to even try.
So yeah. Its sad, but maybe one day I can cough up the money and make it happen.
I have been thinking about picking up an F body camaro
Go for it! But don't wait around too long. They'll probably get expensive soon.
I remember when I could find 2nd Gen and 3rd Gen Trans Ams between $3,500 and 6 grand for good ones 20 years ago when nobody wanted them used old dad cars.
Today they're now desirable classics and you'll be lucky if you can get a good one for $20 grand that doesn't need a new wiring harness or new floors.
@@OfficialStaceyDavid my first car 86z28 paid 220 for it drove home😎🤘
Speaking of 4th gen F-body's and Holley Retrobrite lights, why don't you use your connections with your Holley sponsors to help out us 93-97 Camaro owners? The only bolt-in option for headlights is another sealed beam housing and weak halogen bulb that cannot be replaced separately. They're a simple rectangle. Should be pretty easy to replicate. While they're at it make some for 4th gen Pontiacs and all tue 3rd gens and 4 eye Fox Body Mustangs.
Man that's vool
He is my hero. Buuuut 315s will rub unless you massage (with a hammer) those rear fender wells.
I’ve had a couple of T/A’s and never had to clearance the wheel wells or roll the fenders for 315’s, even when lowered.
You want around 42mm offset. The tire shoulder design, spring rate and eeak panhandle bar can effect rubbing as well.
Make sure they know, driving wheels, driven wheels, tread pattern reverses. Stacy? Dunbuggy? Backwards front tires? On a dunbuggy of all vehicals?
car probably cost 6K and they bolted on 8K in parts... gotta love being a car guy...
What happened to this build? 🤔
Road-course "style" suspension. Style being the operative word. Only the UMI RR kmember has reinforced gussets for serious road course duty. Panhandle bar with the adjuster in the middle is another undesirable design. Drilled rotors, a bling product. Nice selection on Forgeline though.
If its on the street.
Lmao crazy to think your not touching one of these LS birds for less then 10k in good running condition.id like to see stacey do something with a truck LS motor.like a work truck or something would be badass
Salut my friend super car super video subscribe subscribe...
Still waiting on project Camaro.
They need to bring this show back to tv instead of all the garbage they are currently running.
Gearz is still on MavTV on cable, and all episodes are available for free on my channel!
I came here just to see the wheel and tire specs
I want an f-body so bad !
Qould like u to work on mine
It’s 2022 bro! When you gonna take that wig off? Society is a lot more accepting now! LoL
Where's Project street sweeper the white Plymouth satellite he started but never finished
That and the catalog Camaro….
Right.. i forgot about that one...
Dude. Man. I’m older. Than. You. Get. A. Hair cut.
It's OK to be jealous.
Wild, 2024 and people still picking ugly wheels for their cars.
Havent seen this show in years. Stacey looks old as hell.