If only we knew this when they were slowly reeling us in. The unfortunate thing is some apps that we started using when they were good privacy apps got bought up by big tech and are used against us now.
My mom named Karen for real has been pushing the stupid iphone on me a while. She was team Samsung until they started making trash phones. She has zero cares about Iphone. I can only hope that she is never doing a nursing dance on whatever platform. Mom, deliver the babies out in the country. You are not paid to dance. Edit: I am full on LG V30 team. I am trying to buy an extra one while they still exist.
@@kal69 Did you have that quick lie down and hot cup of tea that I suggested to you earlier on? You're still coming across a bit "fragile" and self-entitled in your comments.
this is one of the best privacy advisory channel, unfortunately most people are not willing to give up convenience of Android/iPhone. The combo: home NAS + own VPS + own VPN allows to access data from any place in the world and abandon Big Tech completely
yes, even then the vps is on someone elses computer.. / server etc. If it aint in your house at your location then its not trustworthy, and the isps have hogged up all bandwidth on upload so gl with getting stuff off your nas unless you got fiber and a public IP. Oh and if you got CGN (carrier grade NAT) you are screwed as most isps are starting to assign these kind of IPs
@@djsaekrakem3608 True, home hosting is super private, but I do not want to expose home IP. I guess VPS is still better than big tech. Music streaming works great. Access to documents is quick enough.
@@nully.emptier What combo is most effective at keeping Google and the rest of the data horde out of my life and business? And thank you for your post.
@@LiveAndDie4Love Rob's phone is great start if you are not able modify a phone by yourself. Follow Rob's video instructions to avoid leaks. Then you shall invest time and energy into creating own environment of data services and VPS is great for that. For me the key is specific configuration of VPN which works like virtual "local" network between my devices. This way my phone is able to access home NAS. Note: VPN server is on VPS but please do not place CA certificate-authority-signing-server there. Make CA for example as VM on NAS and keep it offline after certification. Good example of own environment is Navidrome server, which allows me to access my home music library on the phone with Subsonic-API-compatible player. My own Spotify ;) For business purposes I guess Nextcloud would work due to calendar and federated chat. Hope Nextcloud will introduce protocols to communicate with other federated chat solutions. I do not recommend to keep mail server on VPS. Use any provider with good privacy policy. Email is unencrypted anyway. Important to point out that all solutions used on VPS and home server shall be open source.
@@nully.emptier Thank you. I will look into all of this. Sadly, I own 2 companies, so I can't hide but so much. They force you to hand it up! But I will do my best to incorporate what you have told me. Again, thank you.
And when i talk about this topic to people I know, I most ogten get one of these 2 answers 1- I have nothing to hide 2- Or I het called paranoid So, I tell them this is fascism and they tell me they feel secure. Yes, thinking has been demonstrated to be hard, it's energy intensive and discomfortung to confront and dismiss our assumptions, that's the really hard part.
ISP will sell traffic logs, also keep in mind all other trackers, including RFID cards in your pocket, nearby devices, even your voice. That's a full time job. Amish approach is the most technically elaborate for now.
Very useful video, thank you! I noticed RUclips picks up on my preferences, then actually dumbs down what it offers me by keeping the vids it shows in a tight, limited loop of videos I've already seen. I almost always have to hit New to Me. I think it's attempted stupidification by virtue of useless repetition.
But Google reads out my flight and hotel emails and fills out the calendar for me... 😫😫 It even uses floating time zones, something I can't create by myself. 😫😫😫
The browser isolation technique is quite dope. Since I started applying it, I completely get irrelevant ads on my pc. Of course, I removed the google login to make it more effective. I use chromium browser to do my logged-in google activity. Great video, Mr. Braxman!
@@catiapb1I do use ublock origin. I don't deliberately watch ads. Sometimes I unblock them to test if I am fingerprinted. Similar to Rob once tested if he got friend recommendations or "people you might know" in faecesbook to see if he was doing a good job at not getting fingerprinted, as in getting recommendations of people he actually knew.
Since my career is in cybersecurity, I have tied Rob Braxman Tech channel on my public google chrome id profile. I maintain that being anti-Google is a neutral opinion, and not an ideological belief...YET (knock on wood :F ...) [PS: If this message is read by a Google recruiter, your company is totally great, and I look forward to working with you! =) ]
Even if you don't have a google ID on a typical android phone and use a "De-Googled" phone, they still know it is you based on your IP address, and they just link your "De-Googled" actions to your real identity anyway. This still makes the Identity + Data pairing. There is almost no way to outrun them at this point and using a De-Googled phone is not a real solution, it just makes you feel better.
Yesterday i was looking for a short time on the internet for a new headlight. A friend came for dinner and i just told him about that. A few minutes later he and my wife got advertisement about headlights on their phones. Fucking sick!
So is it Google, or telecom companies that cut off targeted individuals from loved ones and benevolent relationships??? Many thanks, Rob, for your awesome, truthful works!
Even store cards ask for your email. When you do this, now Google knows every single thing you buy, so long as you used your store card. If Google knows your debit card number, they'll know all of your purchases as well.
No they don't. If your email is not a Gmail account and you have no apps on your phone related to that card, how would they know that you even have it?
@@sassydoe9407 It won't be moot for me. I don't have any financial apps on my phones, I don't even do banking on them. My wife needed me to go on a bank account with her as a director in her company a couple of weeks ago and the bank only allows banking via their app - I told them to "bugger off" and we went to another bank that allows "traditional" banking. Problem solved, I don't take orders from evil corporations.
That's where I am. I'm trying to follow it all, but it sounds like stuff that is beyond my level of tech savvy. I would buy one of his phones, but I can barely pay my bills at the moment.
@@nancystockwell7829 learn "browser isolation" first. It's free and great training to help your privacy as a first step. Join Brax.me - and just go there and read whatever interests you that people are discussing about privacy that you might be considering. It's a fun way to dip a toe into the tech without money and it will familiarize you with terms, etc. for when you can take further steps.
I keep using alternative search engines, and about 1/3 of the time or more, I am forced back to Google because the accuracy and depth of results simply doesn't measure up from its competitors. "Losing freedom" would include a loss of Google's capacity for narrowed indexing and relevance.
@@ZoomStranger I think the better translation is “the perfect is the enemy of the good,” but I might be wrong. In any case, I would hate for that to be an argument that therefore demanded that I use mediocre tools be used in my work rather than the best available.
@@ReflectedMiles Thank goodness for semantics. I agree google may provide marginally more perfecter results but I have enough trade ability to make a perfectly fine X with sound found ingredients without opening myself so much to marketing opportunities for google advertisers, despite the length of my sentences. Surely that's a win...🙂
Personally I don't give a shit anymore that big tech tracks and can see everything I search or what I'm interested in , It's the time wasted in general on the Internet , it has its positives but the time wasted can not be replaced , you are right all media may have to be ceased .
No, escapism (literature books, movies, tv shows, videogames or any form of entertainment) is "time wasted in general". You gain nothing in return for your personal growth. This video however gives value to people who want to change or want to reclaim some more of their digital freedom and they can apply this advice in their everyday life.
I do use a combination of browsers and incognito/private mode to limit tracking. I haven't gotten around to de-googling my phone yet, but it's next on the list.
If I want to use brave as my main browser but I have already logged into google does logging out stop google from tracking or collecting info? Or do I have to delete the app and install it again? Thanks
@@Ragnar0321 I think once you're logged in, Google has an imprint of your browser that is tied to your login. I don't think it matters if you logout, the browser is still tied to your login. You'd be better off using a completely new/different browser that you never log into Google with.
@@anonimuso well that suck to bad I really like brave am not just going to switch because of that I will keep myself logged out and just hope for the bestThank you for actually responding.
We need to make an effort to decentralize the online things a lot of people need; give the power to the users - not the big companies. Making your device run on an analytic-free open source operating system is a start, but the web services we rely on are also a big part of the problem.
This is less of a problem than what the Big Three broadcasters used to be, but it is far from where we should be going. In the 70s I could never have seen a video such as this, which is coming to me on Google's youtube. So that's an improvement.
Very informative and accurate. Good content. However, "public data" collectors; yes Google, but what about RUclips. They also hold and collect a vast amounts of private data! How accountable are they, when it comes to privacy? Can you do a talk about RUclips, and their abuse of collecting and storing unauthorized data, or will your channel suddenly disappear?
hey Rob! do you know much about PdaNet+ ? the ability to use a tethered/wifi connection from your Phone to PC in order to disguise our PC to look like your Phone so you can use the internet without being throttled. I was wondering if you had any tips and pointers on how to avoid deep package inspections and throttling.
Research "Tetrd" , it uses a VPN of its own, along with user agent string spoofing, so it also circumvents tethering/hot-spot data caps. It can tether and reverse-tether... And unlike most, it supports both IPV4 & IPV6!
It doesn't matter. Google has the IMEI number, phone number, your home address and access to any other data on that phone, because Google Play Services is present and running. If someone else has your phone number in their Google Contacts, they have your name - but they probably have it anyway because they know your address. Only de-Googling the phone works because it makes Google blind to your phone.
@@buntafujiwara3586 I am not repeating what I wrote above - go read it again until you understand the point. You not providing a Google ID is NOT the same as Google not being able to derive that ID themselves based on the other information that you give them through Google Play Services. You do not understand how this works, read my main post here also - I explain it there too. If you choose not to believe me then that is up to you, but it's your own ignorance that's the problem here.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I don't use Google play services. Why would you? When somebody states something like "You can't use an Android without logging in with your Google ID", I call bullshit. That's what I've done here. Sorry you had to change the subject to something I wasn't talking about. But that's OK, I forgive you for jumping the gun. You don't need to log in with a Google ID to use your Android phone Period.
@@buntafujiwara3586 You do not understand the topic. "Google ID" has very little to do with "actual and real identity". You need to understand the difference, watch Rob's videos properly, then you will understand. The Google ID I am using here has no relationship to my real ID, that's why I use it here reasonably safely.
wont google get the computer name, user, computer id, etc?? if they do, then they can still match it with your google id when you are logged in in the first browser..
I want to transition from Norton antivirus paid subscription. I have windows 7 - would you recommend windows security essentials as a free alternative?
This is exactly why i do not carry my devices w/ me most if the time & i allow multiple people I trust to use them in order to confuse the algo's. Not fool proof by any means but it helps.
Well done - you've just made half of the phrase "mobile phone" completely pointless. Might as well just get a landline and have done with it. Incidentally, I do not for one minute believe that anyone who goes to the expense of owning a mobile phone actually does leave it home as much as they say they do - it's one thing "grandstanding" on here and telling everyone else that is what you do, but there's as much logic to say that as there is to saying you bought a lawnmower when you don't have a lawn.
@@MadCowMusic What "waters" does it "muddy", precisely? If the phone isn't de-Googled, the user is identified, Google has access to all of the information on that phone. So you leave the phone at home occasionally, so what? They still know you've gone to the cinema at 8:00pm on Friday evening if you booked the tickets on the phone but left it at home!
Guys having a small problem first of all I am totally blind and assistive software is a must for me. Next I can’t log into the honesty website or even set up a profile because it’s not going over some of the images or numbers or better yet I can’t type it in once I click on edit box
Just had my de-googled phone OS changed to Listos by you. Inside the browser is Google. Want nothing to do with Google or Chrome. Can I switch browsers? Thanks, otherwise I like this OS.
Yes, in general Microsoft is worse in terms of sharing data, but they have less ability to track you. Though obviously if you're giving data to them, well then they don't need to do cross site tracking cause, we'll you're giving it to them for free. If you have OneDrive you can use tool like Cryptomater to encrypt your cloud storage. Generally I wouldn't give Microsoft a cent, their going in a really bad direction recently.
Rob, Great deals on Pixel 7 right now. Do you know if you will be able to put your de-googled platform on the pixel 7? Thanks for the reply in advance my friend!
I have a question about browser profiles. Is it enough to use them instead of using different browser ? Firefox based browser profiles aren't really practical as you may use only one at once. However Chromium based browser profiles can be used simultaneously. So with a user agent modifier, it should be good enough. Isn't it ?
@@henrylawson430 Just checked that, and indeed, now you can. I must admit they improved, last summer, as I checked on firefox-esr 78 on brand new debian 11, there were no "launch in new window option". They stil have a path to progression as you need an extension to make it practical.
Browser profiles just isolate the cookies. Your browser fingerprint, a more threatening and accurate tracking technique, remains the same. You can go for the profiles if they are accounts of other websites that aint whoogle or faecesbook logins. For whoogle, its own dedicated browser, and for everything else not whoogle or fakebook related then yeah; you can continue using different profiles. And what user agent modifier do you use?
@@mentecriptica3163 Until now, I have only been using brave integrated one. I have heard about only a few ones. One that I remember, proposes various predefined user agent, that are preconfigured around famous OS and famous browsers.
Funny to see you here still, Rob. Appreciated. I have as far my tech savvy goes, been diligent on separating use of goolag avatars on separated browsers for "smelling the trashcans" vs ID req logins all from my computer life beginning. I never used cellphones for internet and I never had any smartphone. Hopefully I am in the clear... I now need recommendations for anonymous text/docu coms, with non ID reg. I am looking at Freenet in the moment, seems promising in my eyes. Do you know any bads about it outside the spam? Others you could recommend ? It seems to me also my duckie has been compromised to that "dead internet syndrome". What browsers could you recommend these days ? Wfr from under the bridge
Rob recommends using a bunch of browsers, as you have been doing - and separate them by categorical topics so their tracking can't cross-reference each other. Check out the term: "Browser isolation" But Rob doesn't prefer some browsers - like the Opera and Edge and the ones used in China. Of course on laptop there's Libre Office. You're asking about phone text/docu? There's a number of them on F-Droid.
Hi Rob, I use an app called eRSP for my work as a caregiver. Will it work on a De-Googled phone? THANK YOU SO MUCH for all you do. You're smart and a truly decent person.
I would suggest that you contact whoever supports that eRSP application (there must be a support email address somewhere in the app help pages) and ask them if the app requires Google Play Services on the phone. If it doesn't, there's a good chance that it will work with a de-Googled phone. If it does, then ask if it has been tested with Micro-G as an alternative to Google Play Services, because you can install MicroG on a de-Googled phone to "simulate" some of the functionality of Google Play Services.
Another thing... none of us are that important that Big Tech is going to do ANYTHING to any of us. Spoken as someone who is a developer and looked at way too much source code.
i would almost be happier if they actually knew something. like really they advertise something that you were looking for and bought months ago. how long do they think you can live without a fridge, washing machine, phone, etc.! i'm sure if you fit in a big cohort (probably a standard US male) it is helpful. I have to do an inane amount of "training" of the system to make sure it finds more useful results.
You're saying data without identity is useless. But if they see that there's some data that's very similar to xyz's data, then they can infer whom that data belongs to, no?
What if I want to use brave as my main browser with no Google login and edge for all Google related stuff but i have already logged into google in brave is there a way to reset that? Would logging out from all google stuff on brave work? Thanks
Not only do you have to log out of google on Brave, you also have to clear the cookies & data on the browser to stop the tracking on that browser. Besides, Brave shows a randomized fingerprint on every session.
@@mentecriptica3163 thank you one more thing does having the RUclips app and Gmail app count as tracking? I never use RUclips on the browser always use the app for convenience.
@@Ragnar0321 The youtube and gmail apps and all Google apps on stock android can still track you because they have access to your IMEI and your wifi network. The bigger concern is Google login on the whole system which matches everything.
Rob I am with you 100% and I want to help. I just finished watching your video with David Bambal about "Is Skynet watching you already." I have been saying this for years and everyone thought I was crazy or didn't recognize the seriousness of the situation. I wish to join forces with you and also purchase some of your phones. I am completely new to this, but I have a large vision in order to counter act this invasion on our privacy and basic human rights. Please contact me; this partnership/ mentor and apprenticeship will be mutually beneficial. I'll make sure we reach your goal of alerting and informing at least one percent of the population; with no intentions of stopping there. Thank you for your in sight and your commitment to fighting the good fight. Sincerely your newest & biggest fan.
Had a update from my android phone and it downloaded a app called Emergency Alert. Its from the UK government, I tried to stop it but it won't let me. Beware look for this app.
Take your children out of school. Organize with your nearby neighbors to rotate home schooling volunteering. Everything that public school can teach is available for free on the internet, like Kahn Academy on RUclips, and without the political narrative and indoctrination.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 That's just because you gave up at what you could not successfully accomplish instantly. So now you insult strangers online to feel like you accomplished something worthwhile.
@@ambilaevus7607 No, it's because your brain has created an image of me inside your own head based only on a few words that you have seen me write here because you've never met me. That's fine, when the image stays inside your own head, I don't have to see it - therefore I don't care about it. But when you then make a lame (and ultimately failed) attempt to attack me with an image that your brain created, then you look extremely foolish and puerile - and probably more than a little fanboi-ish. So, run along now, sonny, I am done with you. Mind how you go and stay away from sharp scissors. Discussion closed, you are dismissed.
microsoft can ID your computer, thats why if you change major parts like motherboard, your licence will be deactivated.. so if google can do this, considering they have a very developed AI, i think they can still match your google ID with the computer you are using, so browser isolation would not simply work.. im no expert, can you elaborate on this matter?
@Rob Braxman: I am aware of these issues, however... How can I convince the people I care about the importance of these things? For example, a family member claims: "I'm not interesting" or "I have nothing to hide"...
@@robbraxmantech yes, you did, and thank you, but in practice, I've tried to explain these topics to family members and they just don't get it... I wish that there was a way to have them understand how important this is
@@topcivilian Useless effort. Maybe they post their amount of cash in the drawer in front of their house and where they keep their car-keys, too. Dumb pple learn by suffering, if at all.
I am in the prepardness community and the same holds true. There comes a point where you let family and friends to the circumstances. You do not want to spend your time and resources dragging people over the little finish line and have to drag them to the next. Focus on making your footprint smaller. If phones are used for totalitarian control having a bunch of friends knowing you operate outside the system may cause problems.
In addition to tracking you and placing you in cohorts, they are now implementing China style social credit score - ESG's through the financial system. So, tracking has now become even more serious, because they will be able to look your social credit score just like a credit report. Thereby affecting your entire life - from getting a job to getting a loan and in the future most likely much more constriction...?
Hey Rob, I’ve cancelled my Patreon (since they censor wrong-think). What other avenues can I and other fans support your work? (personally, would like to see more creators accepting privacy crypto donations!)
Are convenients has enslaved us! And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Revelation 13:16 KJV
I don't use them little store cards that they give you, that gives up too much information it's none of their business what I'm shopping for and how much of it I'm buying, I haven't had a checking or savings account in 30 years it's none of their business, when I travel to my resting destinations I have no phone with me it stays home on the table where it belongs the only reason I have it is to talk to my daughters well we don't talk we text other than that👍
If you use Google you should not do so on a phone that is not de-Googled and you should not use Google's apps to access their services. You should use open source apps or browsers to access Google's services. You should also not use Google services that stores your data - Google Docs, Google Drive and Google Photos. You should instead try to host your own files at home or on your own VPS server instance.
@@kal69 There's normally a space after a comma in written English. There now, that's two bits of "excellent advice" that you have had from me today. You're welcome.
unfortunately my university moved over to using google services (as i imagine most have) And because they essentially allow me unlimited storage on Drive, I have been reluctant to drop it. not only that, my the edu email provides quite a few discounts across the web. i need to stop being lazy and get rid of that junk.
Honestly the best thing to do is self-host But not everyone has the resources (money, hardware availabilty etc....) If only we could rip open (metaphorically) the bootloaders of our smartphones then, we could do something
@@AcidiFy574 Please understand the difference between "security" and "privacy". (Google) Android and iOS do a reasonably good job of "security" (i.e. "keeping malicious third parties out of your devices") but they are bad at "privacy" (i.e. "not allowing your personal data to leak out").
And communicate with your peers, who most likely use Google's gmail, and stand out from the crowd to Google so it can fingerprint you via your email communications? Protonmail/Tutanota is more effective with protonmail/tutanota users.
If only we knew this when they were slowly reeling us in.
The unfortunate thing is some apps that we started using when they were good privacy apps got bought up by big tech and are used against us now.
Some of us have known this intuitively ever since the Internet was invented. Welcome to the party.
I try my best to fight back. But like you said it's been going on years before we ever got wind of it. What do we do now?
My mom named Karen for real has been pushing the stupid iphone on me a while. She was team Samsung until they started making trash phones. She has zero cares about Iphone. I can only hope that she is never doing a nursing dance on whatever platform. Mom, deliver the babies out in the country. You are not paid to dance.
Edit: I am full on LG V30 team. I am trying to buy an extra one while they still exist.
What does it matter when you found this out? You can still act on it now and rid yourself of this crap. I did it.
@@kal69 Did you have that quick lie down and hot cup of tea that I suggested to you earlier on? You're still coming across a bit "fragile" and self-entitled in your comments.
this is one of the best privacy advisory channel, unfortunately most people are not willing to give up convenience of Android/iPhone.
The combo: home NAS + own VPS + own VPN allows to access data from any place in the world and abandon Big Tech completely
yes, even then the vps is on someone elses computer.. / server etc. If it aint in your house at your location then its not trustworthy, and the isps have hogged up all bandwidth on upload so gl with getting stuff off your nas unless you got fiber and a public IP. Oh and if you got CGN (carrier grade NAT) you are screwed as most isps are starting to assign these kind of IPs
@@djsaekrakem3608 True, home hosting is super private, but I do not want to expose home IP. I guess VPS is still better than big tech. Music streaming works great. Access to documents is quick enough.
@@nully.emptier What combo is most effective at keeping Google and the rest of the data horde out of my life and business? And thank you for your post.
@@LiveAndDie4Love Rob's phone is great start if you are not able modify a phone by yourself. Follow Rob's video instructions to avoid leaks.
Then you shall invest time and energy into creating own environment of data services and VPS is great for that. For me the key is specific configuration of VPN which works like virtual "local" network between my devices. This way my phone is able to access home NAS.
Note: VPN server is on VPS but please do not place CA certificate-authority-signing-server there. Make CA for example as VM on NAS and keep it offline after certification.
Good example of own environment is Navidrome server, which allows me to access my home music library on the phone with Subsonic-API-compatible player. My own Spotify ;)
For business purposes I guess Nextcloud would work due to calendar and federated chat. Hope Nextcloud will introduce protocols to communicate with other federated chat solutions.
I do not recommend to keep mail server on VPS. Use any provider with good privacy policy. Email is unencrypted anyway.
Important to point out that all solutions used on VPS and home server shall be open source.
@@nully.emptier Thank you. I will look into all of this. Sadly, I own 2 companies, so I can't hide but so much. They force you to hand it up! But I will do my best to incorporate what you have told me. Again, thank you.
And when i talk about this topic to people I know, I most ogten get one of these 2 answers
1- I have nothing to hide
2- Or I het called paranoid
So, I tell them this is fascism and they tell me they feel secure.
Yes, thinking has been demonstrated to be hard, it's energy intensive and discomfortung to confront and dismiss our assumptions, that's the really hard part.
They won't listen, don't listen, and more importantly will argue and debate restlessly about the topic! I don't even bother anymore.
@@LiveAndDie4Love Lol it's funny how much they run their mouths when they know absolutely nothing.
Its just manipulating people by what they see or not see, not about "nothing to hide"
What have you done on your devices to show them that you take privacy seriously? It's no good just talking about it...
@@kal69 I don't do "homework" that a stranger on the Internet sets me, I don't think anyone else should either. Just saying.
ISP will sell traffic logs, also keep in mind all other trackers, including RFID cards in your pocket, nearby devices, even your voice. That's a full time job. Amish approach is the most technically elaborate for now.
at this point everyone sells your personal data including your driver license office
Thanks for all your info Rob!
Very useful video, thank you! I noticed RUclips picks up on my preferences, then actually dumbs down what it offers me by keeping the vids it shows in a tight, limited loop of videos I've already seen. I almost always have to hit New to Me. I think it's attempted stupidification by virtue of useless repetition.
But Google reads out my flight and hotel emails and fills out the calendar for me... 😫😫
It even uses floating time zones, something I can't create by myself. 😫😫😫
So glad we have Braxman helping us understand how we have been duped.
The browser isolation technique is quite dope. Since I started applying it, I completely get irrelevant ads on my pc. Of course, I removed the google login to make it more effective. I use chromium browser to do my logged-in google activity.
Great video, Mr. Braxman!
Why are you even getting adds? Just use ublock!
@@catiapb1I do use ublock origin. I don't deliberately watch ads. Sometimes I unblock them to test if I am fingerprinted. Similar to Rob once tested if he got friend recommendations or "people you might know" in faecesbook to see if he was doing a good job at not getting fingerprinted, as in getting recommendations of people he actually knew.
Comments posted on RUclips secretly include the Google ID of the poster when logged in to Google.
Another great video with practical, actionable steps to increase privacy. Thank you!
So you yourself are taking actions as a result? If you are, then kudos to you because nothing changes unless you take control.
Forever in debt to your priceless advice.
Since my career is in cybersecurity, I have tied Rob Braxman Tech channel on my public google chrome id profile. I maintain that being anti-Google is a neutral opinion, and not an ideological belief...YET (knock on wood :F ...) [PS: If this message is read by a Google recruiter, your company is totally great, and I look forward to working with you! =) ]
Thank you Rob for warning us of the robbery
Even if you don't have a google ID on a typical android phone and use a "De-Googled" phone, they still know it is you based on your IP address, and they just link your "De-Googled" actions to your real identity anyway. This still makes the Identity + Data pairing. There is almost no way to outrun them at this point and using a De-Googled phone is not a real solution, it just makes you feel better.
Yesterday i was looking for a short time on the internet for a new headlight. A friend came for dinner and i just told him about that. A few minutes later he and my wife got advertisement about headlights on their phones. Fucking sick!
teachable moment.
Thank you, Rob.
I already have my de-Googled Pixel 3, and waiting for the BraX2 USA.
Then, bye-bye Google!
So is it Google, or telecom companies that cut off targeted individuals from loved ones and benevolent relationships???
Many thanks, Rob, for your awesome, truthful works!
Even store cards ask for your email. When you do this, now Google knows every single thing you buy, so long as you used your store card. If Google knows your debit card number, they'll know all of your purchases as well.
All of your discount cards, your gym sign in tag etc. Make it a point not to include your email.
No they don't. If your email is not a Gmail account and you have no apps on your phone related to that card, how would they know that you even have it?
@@terrydaktyllus1320 They are all switching to apps anyway so your point will become moot soon enough😂🙃🌎
@@sassydoe9407 It won't be moot for me. I don't have any financial apps on my phones, I don't even do banking on them.
My wife needed me to go on a bank account with her as a director in her company a couple of weeks ago and the bank only allows banking via their app - I told them to "bugger off" and we went to another bank that allows "traditional" banking.
Problem solved, I don't take orders from evil corporations.
Thank you. You explain all this very clearly, but for those of us who are seriously tech challenged it's still a bit too much to navigate.
That's where I am. I'm trying to follow it all, but it sounds like stuff that is beyond my level of tech savvy. I would buy one of his phones, but I can barely pay my bills at the moment.
@@nancystockwell7829 learn "browser isolation" first. It's free and great training to help your privacy as a first step. Join Brax.me - and just go there and read whatever interests you that people are discussing about privacy that you might be considering. It's a fun way to dip a toe into the tech without money and it will familiarize you with terms, etc. for when you can take further steps.
Wow, this is vital information. You really shined a light on a lot of things that I was unaware of. We will try to load the Brax app too,👍🏼
@17:20 Is there apps to purposely create disinfo data without google noticing, instead of doing this manually?
Thanks!
Very kind of you! Thanks!
Thank you for what you do. Just found you today and I'm going to share.
I keep using alternative search engines, and about 1/3 of the time or more, I am forced back to Google because the accuracy and depth of results simply doesn't measure up from its competitors. "Losing freedom" would include a loss of Google's capacity for narrowed indexing and relevance.
so make a choice... How Perfect to results need to be? Voltaire was right hundreds of years ago when he wrote "Best is the enemy of the good"
@@ZoomStranger I think the better translation is “the perfect is the enemy of the good,” but I might be wrong. In any case, I would hate for that to be an argument that therefore demanded that I use mediocre tools be used in my work rather than the best available.
@@ReflectedMiles Thank goodness for semantics. I agree google may provide marginally more perfecter results but I have enough trade ability to make a perfectly fine X with sound found ingredients without opening myself so much to marketing opportunities for google advertisers, despite the length of my sentences. Surely that's a win...🙂
There is no way Google should have as much power as it does. What happened to anti-trust, anti-monopoly legislation?
Personally I don't give a shit anymore that big tech tracks and can see everything I search or what I'm interested in , It's the time wasted in general on the Internet , it has its positives but the time wasted can not be replaced , you are right all media may have to be ceased .
No, escapism (literature books, movies, tv shows, videogames or any form of entertainment) is "time wasted in general". You gain nothing in return for your personal growth. This video however gives value to people who want to change or want to reclaim some more of their digital freedom and they can apply this advice in their everyday life.
1-So , can we consider Huawei a de-google phone ?
2-is a normal phone without logging in google account safe as there is no identification?
Thanks. This is great.
Time length is good for me too. 30 minutes is handy..not too confussing and long for me🤣
any good ways to migrate away from Gmail? i want a FOSS alternative.
I do use a combination of browsers and incognito/private mode to limit tracking. I haven't gotten around to de-googling my phone yet, but it's next on the list.
If I want to use brave as my main browser but I have already logged into google does logging out stop google from tracking or collecting info? Or do I have to delete the app and install it again? Thanks
@@Ragnar0321 I think once you're logged in, Google has an imprint of your browser that is tied to your login. I don't think it matters if you logout, the browser is still tied to your login. You'd be better off using a completely new/different browser that you never log into Google with.
@@anonimuso well that suck to bad I really like brave am not just going to switch because of that I will keep myself logged out and just hope for the bestThank you for actually responding.
Hi rob I have an Apple iPad Apple are not updating them (more control) to force you to go buy new so do u do anything Ungoogled similar to iPad thanks
Blocking voices should tell you all you needed to know. Your voices were worth dying for to your ancestors.
Just a suggestion. Could you please use timestamps so your videos are easier to navigate and revisit.
@Rob Braxman Tech. How about New Pipe, or something equivalent? That is a great way to use RUclips without a Google ID.
This is great information can you make a PDF available? Also do you know of any alternatives to zoom that are not tracked?
better than Zoom for privacy is jit.si - it's easy to use for others by sending a browser link. Check it out.
I have the Google 🦠 I need help! That company is the Devil 😈
We need to make an effort to decentralize the online things a lot of people need; give the power to the users - not the big companies.
Making your device run on an analytic-free open source operating system is a start, but the web services we rely on are also a big part of the problem.
This is less of a problem than what the Big Three broadcasters used to be, but it is far from where we should be going. In the 70s I could never have seen a video such as this, which is coming to me on Google's youtube. So that's an improvement.
What if you don't ever log into your Google ID with a newly acquired phone, a phone with no cellular service, used only on wi-fi?
This was so good! Thank you so much! This is so important!
Very informative and accurate. Good content. However, "public data" collectors; yes Google, but what about RUclips. They also hold and collect a vast amounts of private data! How accountable are they, when it comes to privacy? Can you do a talk about RUclips, and their abuse of collecting and storing unauthorized data, or will your channel suddenly disappear?
hey Rob! do you know much about PdaNet+ ?
the ability to use a tethered/wifi connection from your Phone to PC in order to disguise our PC to look like your Phone so you can use the internet without being throttled.
I was wondering if you had any tips and pointers on how to avoid deep package inspections and throttling.
Research "Tetrd" , it uses a VPN of its own, along with user agent string spoofing, so it also circumvents tethering/hot-spot data caps. It can tether and reverse-tether... And unlike most, it supports both IPV4 & IPV6!
Use Every Proxy.. simple.. you just need to turn on every proxy and your hotspot and enter proxy manually on other device..
How do VPN's effect data collection? Such as nord VPN and surf shark? Does it still get tracked by Google somehow?
I never set up a Google ID on my Androids. Some apps won't work, but it's worth it.
It doesn't matter. Google has the IMEI number, phone number, your home address and access to any other data on that phone, because Google Play Services is present and running. If someone else has your phone number in their Google Contacts, they have your name - but they probably have it anyway because they know your address.
Only de-Googling the phone works because it makes Google blind to your phone.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 It matters: No Google ID, that's how it matters. No Gmail account No RUclips history. The point is that there is no Google ID.
@@buntafujiwara3586 I am not repeating what I wrote above - go read it again until you understand the point.
You not providing a Google ID is NOT the same as Google not being able to derive that ID themselves based on the other information that you give them through Google Play Services.
You do not understand how this works, read my main post here also - I explain it there too.
If you choose not to believe me then that is up to you, but it's your own ignorance that's the problem here.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I don't use Google play services. Why would you? When somebody states something like "You can't use an Android without logging in with your Google ID", I call bullshit. That's what I've done here. Sorry you had to change the subject to something I wasn't talking about. But that's OK, I forgive you for jumping the gun. You don't need to log in with a Google ID to use your Android phone Period.
@@buntafujiwara3586 You do not understand the topic. "Google ID" has very little to do with "actual and real identity".
You need to understand the difference, watch Rob's videos properly, then you will understand.
The Google ID I am using here has no relationship to my real ID, that's why I use it here reasonably safely.
wont google get the computer name, user, computer id, etc?? if they do, then they can still match it with your google id when you are logged in in the first browser..
I want to transition from Norton antivirus paid subscription. I have windows 7 - would you recommend windows security essentials as a free alternative?
This is exactly why i do not carry my devices w/ me most if the time & i allow multiple people I trust to use them in order to confuse the algo's. Not fool proof by any means but it helps.
My favorite method. Muddy the waters as much as possible.
Well done - you've just made half of the phrase "mobile phone" completely pointless. Might as well just get a landline and have done with it.
Incidentally, I do not for one minute believe that anyone who goes to the expense of owning a mobile phone actually does leave it home as much as they say they do - it's one thing "grandstanding" on here and telling everyone else that is what you do, but there's as much logic to say that as there is to saying you bought a lawnmower when you don't have a lawn.
@@MadCowMusic What "waters" does it "muddy", precisely? If the phone isn't de-Googled, the user is identified, Google has access to all of the information on that phone.
So you leave the phone at home occasionally, so what? They still know you've gone to the cinema at 8:00pm on Friday evening if you booked the tickets on the phone but left it at home!
Guys having a small problem first of all I am totally blind and assistive software is a must for me. Next I can’t log into the honesty website or even set up a profile because it’s not going over some of the images or numbers or better yet I can’t type it in once I click on edit box
Just had my de-googled phone OS changed to Listos by you. Inside the browser is Google. Want nothing to do with Google or Chrome. Can I switch browsers? Thanks, otherwise I like this OS.
I’m glad more creators are moving to Rumble
Rumble isn’t great at all the layout is piss poor at best. I gave up a while ago, then checked the app last week. Piss Poor!
Epic Epic Mr Bob , should be a million View Video !!
Would this include Microsoft products? (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Bing, Start, Edge, etc.).
Yes, in general Microsoft is worse in terms of sharing data, but they have less ability to track you. Though obviously if you're giving data to them, well then they don't need to do cross site tracking cause, we'll you're giving it to them for free.
If you have OneDrive you can use tool like Cryptomater to encrypt your cloud storage. Generally I wouldn't give Microsoft a cent, their going in a really bad direction recently.
How do you use RUclips without them following you? And or posting on youtbe
Rob, Great deals on Pixel 7 right now. Do you know if you will be able to put your de-googled platform on the pixel 7? Thanks for the reply in advance my friend!
It is mind-numbing this video has ONLY 33k views...
What about buying the pixel 7 pro?
thank you for your service!
I have a question about browser profiles.
Is it enough to use them instead of using different browser ?
Firefox based browser profiles aren't really practical as you may use only one at once. However Chromium based browser profiles can be used simultaneously. So with a user agent modifier, it should be good enough. Isn't it ?
I use several Firefox profiles simultaneously on Linux with no problems.
@@henrylawson430 Just checked that, and indeed, now you can.
I must admit they improved, last summer, as I checked on firefox-esr 78 on brand new debian 11, there were no "launch in new window option". They stil have a path to progression as you need an extension to make it practical.
Browser profiles just isolate the cookies. Your browser fingerprint, a more threatening and accurate tracking technique, remains the same.
You can go for the profiles if they are accounts of other websites that aint whoogle or faecesbook logins. For whoogle, its own dedicated browser, and for everything else not whoogle or fakebook related then yeah; you can continue using different profiles.
And what user agent modifier do you use?
@@mentecriptica3163 Until now, I have only been using brave integrated one.
I have heard about only a few ones. One that I remember, proposes various predefined user agent, that are preconfigured around famous OS and famous browsers.
Funny to see you here still, Rob. Appreciated. I have as far my tech savvy goes, been diligent on separating use of goolag avatars on separated browsers for "smelling the trashcans" vs ID req logins all from my computer life beginning. I never used cellphones for internet and I never had any smartphone. Hopefully I am in the clear...
I now need recommendations for anonymous text/docu coms, with non ID reg. I am looking at Freenet in the moment, seems promising in my eyes. Do you know any bads about it outside the spam? Others you could recommend ? It seems to me also my duckie has been compromised to that "dead internet syndrome". What browsers could you recommend these days ?
Wfr from under the bridge
Rob recommends using a bunch of browsers, as you have been doing - and separate them by categorical topics so their tracking can't cross-reference each other. Check out the term: "Browser isolation" But Rob doesn't prefer some browsers - like the Opera and Edge and the ones used in China.
Of course on laptop there's Libre Office. You're asking about phone text/docu? There's a number of them on F-Droid.
goolag, good one. Can't believe I didn't think of it. I just arrived from a nearby planet so I'm catching up.
Is there a way to avoid the upcoming force to Google two factor?
but the app is in google play store, will it not track our data that way too?
Ok Rob, as a medical person. I would have to self prescribe zofran 8mg SL to not vomit. Gross I'm not watching CNN.
Hi Rob, I use an app called eRSP for my work as a caregiver. Will it work on a De-Googled phone? THANK YOU SO MUCH for all you do. You're smart and a truly decent person.
I would suggest that you contact whoever supports that eRSP application (there must be a support email address somewhere in the app help pages) and ask them if the app requires Google Play Services on the phone. If it doesn't, there's a good chance that it will work with a de-Googled phone. If it does, then ask if it has been tested with Micro-G as an alternative to Google Play Services, because you can install MicroG on a de-Googled phone to "simulate" some of the functionality of Google Play Services.
How it is possible to have such content available in RUclips?
have you written any books on this?
Another thing... none of us are that important that Big Tech is going to do ANYTHING to any of us. Spoken as someone who is a developer and looked at way too much source code.
Thank you , Rob!!😃👍
profiles also work in browsers
OWW that Texas part hurts. My parents land 150 acres... I don't like it.
So there’s the real man-you-there’s the straw-man-the capital letters you in government files-and now there’s a Google you-the digiman?!
It would be nice if RUclips didn't censor half my comments
A separate issue...
A different google account for different devices. It's nowhere near degoogled, but it helps a tiny bit.
i would almost be happier if they actually knew something. like really they advertise something that you were looking for and bought months ago. how long do they think you can live without a fridge, washing machine, phone, etc.! i'm sure if you fit in a big cohort (probably a standard US male) it is helpful. I have to do an inane amount of "training" of the system to make sure it finds more useful results.
You're saying data without identity is useless. But if they see that there's some data that's very similar to xyz's data, then they can infer whom that data belongs to, no?
What if I want to use brave as my main browser with no Google login and edge for all Google related stuff but i have already logged into google in brave is there a way to reset that? Would logging out from all google stuff on brave work? Thanks
Not only do you have to log out of google on Brave, you also have to clear the cookies & data on the browser to stop the tracking on that browser. Besides, Brave shows a randomized fingerprint on every session.
@@mentecriptica3163 thank you one more thing does having the RUclips app and Gmail app count as tracking? I never use RUclips on the browser always use the app for convenience.
@@Ragnar0321 The youtube and gmail apps and all Google apps on stock android can still track you because they have access to your IMEI and your wifi network. The bigger concern is Google login on the whole system which matches everything.
@@mentecriptica3163 I am on iPhone can they still track me using the apps?
Rob I am with you 100% and I want to help. I just finished watching your video with David Bambal about "Is Skynet watching you already." I have been saying this for years and everyone thought I was crazy or didn't recognize the seriousness of the situation. I wish to join forces with you and also purchase some of your phones. I am completely new to this, but I have a large vision in order to counter act this invasion on our privacy and basic human rights. Please contact me; this partnership/ mentor and apprenticeship will be mutually beneficial. I'll make sure we reach your goal of alerting and informing at least one percent of the population; with no intentions of stopping there. Thank you for your in sight and your commitment to fighting the good fight. Sincerely your newest & biggest fan.
So how many Android devices have you de-Googled so far, then? Are there any particular makes or models that you find easier to do?
Unfortunately, I have a youtube accnt. Other than that, I have no other google app or service that I use…not even search. Not for the last 11 years.
Had a update from my android phone and it downloaded a app called Emergency Alert. Its from the UK government, I tried to stop it but it won't let me. Beware look for this app.
Take your children out of school.
Organize with your nearby neighbors to rotate home schooling volunteering.
Everything that public school can teach is available for free on the internet, like Kahn Academy on RUclips, and without the political narrative and indoctrination.
We need a 'firmware add on' that constantly changes the google id automatically.
That'd be cool.
No, you need to use a de-Googled phone. You don't show an ID in the first place.
@@kal69 I stopped painting little faces around words that I write when I got to age seven and first learned joined-up writing. Just saying.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 That's just because you gave up at what you could not successfully accomplish instantly. So now you insult strangers online to feel like you accomplished something worthwhile.
@@ambilaevus7607 No, it's because your brain has created an image of me inside your own head based only on a few words that you have seen me write here because you've never met me.
That's fine, when the image stays inside your own head, I don't have to see it - therefore I don't care about it.
But when you then make a lame (and ultimately failed) attempt to attack me with an image that your brain created, then you look extremely foolish and puerile - and probably more than a little fanboi-ish.
So, run along now, sonny, I am done with you. Mind how you go and stay away from sharp scissors.
Discussion closed, you are dismissed.
If I can avoid Google IF i do use one of their services I make sure they cant collect any data from me
microsoft can ID your computer, thats why if you change major parts like motherboard, your licence will be deactivated.. so if google can do this, considering they have a very developed AI, i think they can still match your google ID with the computer you are using, so browser isolation would not simply work.. im no expert, can you elaborate on this matter?
Unless the browser (probably chrome) leaks your windows license, a kinda identity, then yeah.
@Rob Braxman: I am aware of these issues, however...
How can I convince the people I care about the importance of these things?
For example, a family member claims: "I'm not interesting" or "I have nothing to hide"...
I answered that very question at the beginning
@@robbraxmantech yes, you did, and thank you, but in practice, I've tried to explain these topics to family members and they just don't get it... I wish that there was a way to have them understand how important this is
@@topcivilian Useless effort. Maybe they post their amount of cash in the drawer in front of their house and where they keep their car-keys, too. Dumb pple learn by suffering, if at all.
@@sotecluxan4221 so true, so true...
...and soooooo frustrating
I am in the prepardness community and the same holds true. There comes a point where you let family and friends to the circumstances. You do not want to spend your time and resources dragging people over the little finish line and have to drag them to the next. Focus on making your footprint smaller. If phones are used for totalitarian control having a bunch of friends knowing you operate outside the system may cause problems.
In addition to tracking you and placing you in cohorts, they are now implementing China style social credit score - ESG's through the financial system. So, tracking has now become even more serious, because they will be able to look your social credit score just like a credit report. Thereby affecting your entire life - from getting a job to getting a loan and in the future most likely much more constriction...?
Hey Rob, I’ve cancelled my Patreon (since they censor wrong-think). What other avenues can I and other fans support your work?
(personally, would like to see more creators accepting privacy crypto donations!)
Try odysee, its in his description ✌️
I will be on Locals soon. Setting it up.
@@robbraxmantech You should post a Monero address in your description
Are convenients has enslaved us!
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Revelation 13:16 KJV
I don't use them little store cards that they give you, that gives up too much information it's none of their business what I'm shopping for and how much of it I'm buying, I haven't had a checking or savings account in 30 years it's none of their business, when I travel to my resting destinations I have no phone with me it stays home on the table where it belongs the only reason I have it is to talk to my daughters well we don't talk we text other than that👍
When I listen to videos and put my phone in my pocket ads come on.
Great content...thanks!
So basically we should use Google without logging in?
If you use Google you should not do so on a phone that is not de-Googled and you should not use Google's apps to access their services. You should use open source apps or browsers to access Google's services.
You should also not use Google services that stores your data - Google Docs, Google Drive and Google Photos. You should instead try to host your own files at home or on your own VPS server instance.
@@kal69 There's normally a space after a comma in written English. There now, that's two bits of "excellent advice" that you have had from me today. You're welcome.
De-googling important. Fortunately there are alternatives to pretty much everything Google offers now. Big trend of the last few years.
unfortunately my university moved over to using google services (as i imagine most have)
And because they essentially allow me unlimited storage on Drive, I have been reluctant to drop it. not only that, my the edu email provides quite a few discounts across the web.
i need to stop being lazy and get rid of that junk.
Honestly the best thing to do is self-host
But not everyone has the resources (money, hardware availabilty etc....)
If only we could rip open (metaphorically) the bootloaders of our smartphones then, we could do something
Computers and Laptops are probably 100 times more private than smart phones.
@@MadCowMusic did you even read my comment
Plus, Android & iOS are secure AF
@@MadCowMusic Why do u assume this? E.g. Win 8 is considered to be backdoored for "services"....
@@sotecluxan4221 He never mentioned Windows. A properly configured Linux desktop or laptop is one of the most secure systems you can own as of today.
@@AcidiFy574 Please understand the difference between "security" and "privacy". (Google) Android and iOS do a reasonably good job of "security" (i.e. "keeping malicious third parties out of your devices") but they are bad at "privacy" (i.e. "not allowing your personal data to leak out").
Rob braxman swriously must state he AINT suicidal
Q: What about using ProtonMail?
And communicate with your peers, who most likely use Google's gmail, and stand out from the crowd to Google so it can fingerprint you via your email communications? Protonmail/Tutanota is more effective with protonmail/tutanota users.
Thank you for you nice work bless the world
How much do I.need to pay to get out of woogle
You don't need to "pay" much. Get a BraX2 phone and implement procedures and behaviors that confuse their algorithms. Today that works.
No Google & No Apple for me!! DuckDuckGo and no saved passwords on any app
Are all of your Android devices de-Googled? If the answer is "no" then you still have Google tracking you, even if you don't use any of the apps.
I come here so they won't know I'm an exhibitionist