Doom is an excellent choice (as always, if done correctly). After Endgame it seems the stakes are going to have to be along the lines of Doom, Galactus, Celestials level opponents and then had best tighten up the scripts a bit more, making it more seamless with less plot holes, including massive ones.
@@batmantheknight7862 doom is a master of magic, science and tech; he spent years battling Mephisto over his mother soul and won, stole the power of the beyonder twice and became a god not to mention the man has fought virtually everyone in the marvel universe hero or villian alike. If done right doom is a threat like no other
I agree that he should be the next Thanos. This is a character who is so arrogant that he thinks he'd do an amazing job ruling the world. After what these heroes had done to the world, him wanting to step up is the best route. It makes the best sense.
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze Not that i would say he should exterminate 3/4 of our species to be worse than Thanos heheh He was a master of technology even surpassing stark in terms of IQ. Stark died in MCU movie so instead of resurrecting him we might get to connect the avenger with fantastic four, and the heroes i would think who had the capability to defeat him was the one who had the IQ that rivals him. And surprisingly that would be Dr. Reed Richard, Dr strange and Peter Parker(His IQ is 250 dubbed higher than Tony stark and rivaled Reed Richard). Yes you might think parker has no chance against Dr Doom, you're right but against such enemies he would've never fought alone. While Reed Richard, well do i need to explain?
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze They should've added that Doom once Saved a whole village of Gypsies from the wrath of a genocidal Baron while at the age younger than peter parker. I would definitely watched that movie where they included doom's early life. If only one thing i ask for marvel i hope they didnt change his background story. I mean they could've changed the story from instead meeting reed richard at Empire State university with Peter Parker. In the comic he tried to work with peter parker tough its a cross over and i don't think its canonical. It would be a big plot twist that he rejected Reed Richard as his roommate but found out his roommate at University was peter parker. But please dont change his childhood story in Europe. It shapes him to what he is today.
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze actually no...sandman was actually a tragic character. But we viewers failed to see him as a good character since he did something immoral but in the end he was infact a human just like you and me. Alnost all of his bad deeds was due to him trying to save his DAUGHTER. But Peter Parker trying to play street hero and getting revenge for his uncle almost made him failing to save his ill daughter. We need a tragic yet misunderstood supervillain. Dr Doom fit this criteria. He basically an anti-thesis of Royal Supremacy and He in his early years was infact a savior of a minority ethnic in europe.
"Some are scary, some are dangerous, some are filled with character but none of them are all these things; none except Dr.Doom" As a non-western comic fan I'm sold (the pure hearted thing did help too)
If they do make Doom the big bad I hope they flesh out his relationship with Reed. The Doom/Reed dichotomy is underrated and I want Doom vs Richards as well rather than just Avengers that don't have a personal connection Victor.
I do however hoped that Richard would tag team with Peter Parker in terms of intellect. Seriously peter's intelligence was underrepresented and he infact had an IQ of 250 even higher than Tony Stark. Now that Stark is dead, the only hyper-intellect human on Earth left were only banner, Parker, Strange and Reed. They should STOP making peter goofy goodie to shoes as if he was the Next Iron man/Iron man jr.
@@islamicschoolofmemestudies Mcu Peter is really struggling in terms of being iron man. No way home will hopefully change that but I view him as annoying tbh. Spidey is my favorite marvel character and I want the best for him. Maybe during no way home we see him experimenting with tech and gadgets on his own. I wanna see him getting knee deep into tech, and not just mooching off stark stuff.
I think Doctor Doom should be an "antivillain". He sometimes helps the heroes and sometimes attacks them, but always having something in mind. In Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes he is portrayed really well, he kidnaps sue storm and wasp and uncovers that sue is a skrull in disguise but the heroes just think he is being evil. He gives a scanner to tony stark and helps like that. That would be pretty cool.
@Kimble Simpson That's not all he is though. I don't really mean a sometimes good guy, I mean a guy who is fighting the same people the avengers are if he finds them a threat.
not only do i think that doom has the capabilities to be as good of a villain as thanos, but i really think, if done right, he can be BETTER. he has the potential to be one of the greatest cinematic villains of all time.
I definitely think Dr Doom should be the next 'mastermind.' He is definitely one of the more interesting villains, offering the most character and substance as you said. I like your idea of slowly building him up, but people will want to see him in F4 1 or F4 2 because he is their arch-enemy. Also, previous F4 movies have been mixed bags to flops, so if they put all their eggs into Dr Doom being the next 'mastermind', that might not work out. Also, I hope Galactus gets 2 movies. Either way, looking forward to finally seeing a comic-correct adaptation.
if, by some miraculous twist of fate, Marvel makes a good decision and actually goes through with this, Doom needs to have a scene along the lines of Vader's hallway scene. Walking down the hall, bullets crumpling against his forcefield, him throwing people around with his telekinesis and cutting people down with the same ethereal weapons Kaecilius used, warping reality in the same way as well, show off that he's mastered the magic of the Dark Dimension but, when we eventually see his scarred face much later in the film, his eyes are intact and there's no sigil on his head, he's fully dominated it, not letting it harm or control him.
What brought this on I wonder? Lol Love the video bro but personally I'd love to have a solo Dr Doom movie like Books of Doom. Your ideas are very good and could work well for the MCU
Mystical like dr. Strange, technological like iron man, strong like Thor, ruler of a country like black panther, a symbol tou his own country like captain America, a sympathetic influencer like magneto.
One of the things that made Thanos so compelling too was that the other baddies the avengers had faced before him were his fault (the attack on New York, for example). As long as Doom does something similar and is tied to other tragedies the heroes have faced before, then I'll buy it.
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! Especially your map of the MCU going forward. I too think it stupid and pointless to do a Doom origin movie and also think that just throwing him into Fantastic Four as the villain is rushing it. He would make a great villain of the next three phases, which people don't get cause of his poor depiction in the movies. You could have him always behind the scenes, always manipulating the events of previous films with his power and influence, all building to an epic final film. HOWEVER, instead of Doomsday, seeing the Multiverse direction the MCU is heading in, I can do one better: SECRET WARS! That would definitely rival Infinity War/Endgame in scale, and we can see Emperor Doom, showcasing what Doom is fully capable of. You could also throw in the Beyonders throughout the next three phases to set that up too. What a bright future for the MCU.
Bro is absolutely nailing with the predictions. First David Corenswet as Superman, and now Doom (played by RDJ) as the new big bad to replace Kang in the Multiverse Saga
I would love to see an updated version of this regarding the theory’s for Doom being in BP 2, Kang becoming a larger villain, and the newer MCU projects happening!
After seeing him as Kylo Ren Adam Driver could really pull this off he can really play complex characters with deep emotion and pain which is really what the MCU Doom needs
The fact that Noah Hawley was attached to the Dr.Doom solo movie project was gueninely exciting as he did an amazing work on Legion which was the best comics-related show of the last few years for me. Also a deep dive into a villain through a solo movie is something the MCU hasn't done yet so no I don't think the idea is that ridiculous it can be a way to shake things up in how they introduce their big bad.
A good villain is also a relatable villain, Doom knowing and believe he is the one who can save the future, is definitely relatable, doing horrible things in the service of good.
@Starscream91 And just like Harry Truman who was responsible for nuking Civilians, all done in the supposed "greater good" but no less a horrible thing. The reason why it is relatable is because thats how humans are most easily ready to do evil acts, when they believe its for the betterment of the "tribe". Humans do everything for the greater good, just look at the trolley problem. Now we cant relate to the beliefs of Adolf, which is probably what you're referring too.
Doom is by far my favorite marvel villain. He has such depth of character and i agree that he deserves a long and carefully crafted character arc in order to do him justice. After all the things sony did to my boy, i want his entrance into the mcu to be perfectly designed.
Would work incredibly well, after the death of his mother and father Doom leaves to educate himself in technology and mystical arts, learns most of what he can to bring his mother back from hell. He needs resources and more koney so returns to Sokovia(Latveria) only to find it in near ruin after Ultron. Thus now is not only seeking to save his mother from Mephisto, but also the rest of the world from self destruction and heroes and a law which are incable of preventing destruction and death.
Love your hypothetical. ...I kinda wanna see Doom mention the Infinity Gauntlet. Like, somehow he finds out about its existence and in a quick throwaway line, he says something to the effect of, "I'll build my own as a hobby to kill time before my actual plan is finished". I feel like that'd be such a "Doom" line. I dunno, just him making such a reference in such a way seems very in character for him to me.
Must say that you’re a creative genius. The F4 concept is great although I think Annihilus should be saved for Nova and give the F4 Wizard, Super Skull, Heralds of Galactus, the Avengers and F4 Galactus and then of course Doom. Doctor Doom is my all time favourite villain!
I just found your channel, amazing content. You clearly really love what you are talking about & it shows in your videos. Confused at how you don't have at least a few hundred thousand subscribers.
I do not know what to say I love how you brought all my wishes of the future of the mcu into perspective ,first time on this channel but I fell in love already😍#LOVE at first sight
Wow, that's a really cohesive and amazing story. I would love to see this story line take shape. Doom definitely should b the next big bad, hes the biggest sleeper villain.
I want dr doom to be like the Loki always lurking in the background, not just a one time villain also in the comics if the planet is in big danger Dr. Doom will help save it because he can't take something when there's nothing to take
Your story telling ability is unmatched from any of these RUclipsrs. You definitely have a clear understanding of who these characters are and I also like the idea for Peter to pass the mantle to Miles. Good stuff
My only problem with the slow rollout of Doom at the rate things are moving is it seems like we will be fully in Young Avengers mode by the time they are able to properly bring him into the fold.
I want a Disney + on Dr Doom just bcoz I want him not just for mere 6 hours or so...Disney + can plough deep into the character's personality, his origin, Like a 10 episode of 1 hr showing from his birth till his peak achieving the Doom he is ... Showing plots from comics...Books of Doom are my fav...they can also show young Victor and Young Tony Stark (de-aged rdj) having a scientific argument...
Doom is the ultimate. He is the only real Hero in the Marvel Comic line. Kneel and worship The only real God Emperor. Doom is invincible Doom is the only one worthy of worship. He is DOOOOOOOOOOOM!!
I couldn't agree with you more. Doom is the greatest villain Marvel has to offer and his character needs to be treated as such in the films. He isn't some one off villain used for the heroes origin and then gets killed off. As a character he has depth and intrigue deserving of a lot of screen time and development. And what can't be forgotten is that he is powerful, he is one of the most powerful villains in the entire universe and unlike Thanos who needed the Infinity Stones to be that powerful, Doom gets it all on his own. A mind and technological prowess rivaling Tony Stark and magical power on par with Doctor Strange. He needs to mop the floor with heroes and perform god like feats to display this power so the audience really understands how much of a threat he is.
This video just solidified how much I can't wait to see Nova Silver Surfer and Galactus in the MCU, my fav cosmic characters (and my favorite characters aside from DD and Spidey) lol
I see the mcu building towards secret wars as the next endgame like event, I don’t see them starting off with a villain as big as annihilus, they’d probably start with someone closer to the ground, and who better to start off with than molecule man. I see Galactus getting set up in a FF movie but ultimately being the villain of an avengers movie. I could see either Annihilus or Doom for either FF sequel
I wish i could give you 10 thumbs up. Thabk you for knowing the character of Victor von Doom. This all makes sense. Disney should scoop you up and use this as a template. Great job!!
One idea I wrote for Doom's origin was to use the FF's Ultimate Marvel origin, but have him work on the portal. Reed notices a design flaw, that Doom refuses to correct because Doom can't admit when he's wrong. When the portal breaks down and the FF get sent to the Negative Zone, Doom spends years blaming Reed for the "death" of his friends. Time would flow differently in the Negative Zone so when the Four return, decades have past (among other things, Ben's wife has passed away). Doom is grateful to see his friends alive, but wants to make Reed admit "his" mistake. This is what ultimately drives the conflict between Doom and the Fantastic Four, as the rest of the Four still side with Reed. His former friends "betraying" him starts to make Doom paranoid and ultimately ruins his world domination plan. Because it's not the Fantastic Four that are Doom's worst enemy, it's Doom himself.
I dont see why a Doom movie is a bad idea per say....I think an origin story movie on Doom is a great way to flesh out his character and really build him up
My idea is close to yours. Was talking about it to one of my friends a month ago. And this is what i came up with: Doom rebuilds Sokovia. Becoming it's ruler. And he tricks a very depressed Scarlet Witch. Getting her on his side. But, it's a more damaged relationship than Harley and Joker. The Original Avengers have either died or are retired. So, Doom sees this as the perfect opportunity to spread his rule. Spiderman being a huge(perhaps the only) fan of The Fantastic 4. Still believes they are out there somewhere. He travels thru the jungles with Black Panther. And meets up with Kraven The Hunter(who is the big villain of the movie). After defeating Kraven. Peter and Kraven become allies. And they search the jungles for the forgotten tomb. That Doom imprisoned The Fantastic 4. The Movie ends with The Fantastic 4 revived. Leading to a Fantastic 4 prequel(set in the 60s). We see them fight crime against the likes of The Moleman and Namor. Finally falling to Doom at the end(not seeing his full power, just enough to know he's a fatal threat). This would lead to Avengers: Doom. Where Doom finds the portal to hell. Hulk and Doctor Strange attempt to stop Doom. Doom kills Strange. And just before Strange breathes his final breath. He passes his amulet to Hulk. Doom laughs. And sucks the Hulk into Hell. But...leaving Bruce Banner on earth. Bruce is followed by the spirit of Strange as his guide to teach him the ways of mystic arts. While recruiting The New Avengers. The final act is all The Avengers teaming up against Doom, Scarlet Witch, The Sinister 6, Justin Hammer and The Mandarin. The Avengers look like they have the battle won. Only for Doom to open the portal to hell to summon DEMON HULK!
I'd love to see a solo Dr Doom movie. He is a hero. He is moved by tragedy to correct the wrongs in the world, the injustices committed to his people, the dead of his father and the imprisonment of his mother in hell. Imagine following this young man taking on the world with nothing but his enormous willpower. Imagine witnessing this poor orphan taking over Latveria with a genius strategy, sure he'd have done morally questionable acts, but they're for the greater good. Then the glorious moment of final battle versus Mephisto, how against all odds he finally defeats the actual devil and rescues his mother. Imagine loving this character and following down the road of his transformation from Victor to DR DOOM. It could be everything the second Star Wars trilogy wasn't.
Fuck yes. Your in-depth analysis and timeline remind me so much of my editor and I when we're scoping out our 15 book series. It takes work, but to build someone like Doom up properly, I think you're right. It takes time, and it's worth it in the end. The fanboy in me wants a Doom movie just as much as he wants a Thrawn movie - but the key thing is that I want a GOOD one. And for that, we have to simmer. We have to wait.
Honestly, Kevin Feige knows what he's doing as everything he plans on doing is already mapped out with the big bad in toe. I can easily see it being similar to what you want it to be. Just because you want it to be like this, and it does turn out to be like this wouldn't be because Kevin Feige seen your plans for the FF & Dr. DOOM, but because his plan was similar to yours all along. The writing is on the wall already & it's clear this is great & so is your idea of who should be Ben Grimm & Johnny Storm
I completely agree. They should not use Doom until maybe the third film. Doom deserves to be in other people’s franchises and to get his own Disney plus series. There is so much to the character that the films did not get right and deserves to get explored.
BROOOOO ive been saying they need to tribute MF DOOM since the idea of Doctor Doom in the MCU came around. I think Cellz would be a better song choice, it's more cold and menacing :)
After seeing Endgame a question has been on my mind ever since, who will replace Thanos. My answer is Doctor Doom :D
have you watch Batman vs TMNT animated movie ? awesome if you can review it
Doom is an excellent choice (as always, if done correctly). After Endgame it seems the stakes are going to have to be along the lines of Doom, Galactus, Celestials level opponents and then had best tighten up the scripts a bit more, making it more seamless with less plot holes, including massive ones.
Doom is not that big of a threat
@@batmantheknight7862 doom is a master of magic, science and tech; he spent years battling Mephisto over his mother soul and won, stole the power of the beyonder twice and became a god not to mention the man has fought virtually everyone in the marvel universe hero or villian alike. If done right doom is a threat like no other
YES! Doctor Doom and also Kang the Conqueror!
I agree that he should be the next Thanos. This is a character who is so arrogant that he thinks he'd do an amazing job ruling the world. After what these heroes had done to the world, him wanting to step up is the best route. It makes the best sense.
He needs to be worse than thanos
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze Not that i would say he should exterminate 3/4 of our species to be worse than Thanos heheh
He was a master of technology even surpassing stark in terms of IQ. Stark died in MCU movie so instead of resurrecting him we might get to connect the avenger with fantastic four, and the heroes i would think who had the capability to defeat him was the one who had the IQ that rivals him. And surprisingly that would be Dr. Reed Richard, Dr strange and Peter Parker(His IQ is 250 dubbed higher than Tony stark and rivaled Reed Richard). Yes you might think parker has no chance against Dr Doom, you're right but against such enemies he would've never fought alone. While Reed Richard, well do i need to explain?
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze They should've added that Doom once Saved a whole village of Gypsies from the wrath of a genocidal Baron while at the age younger than peter parker. I would definitely watched that movie where they included doom's early life. If only one thing i ask for marvel i hope they didnt change his background story. I mean they could've changed the story from instead meeting reed richard at Empire State university with Peter Parker. In the comic he tried to work with peter parker tough its a cross over and i don't think its canonical.
It would be a big plot twist that he rejected Reed Richard as his roommate but found out his roommate at University was peter parker.
But please dont change his childhood story in Europe. It shapes him to what he is today.
@Tornike Tvalchrelidze actually no...sandman was actually a tragic character. But we viewers failed to see him as a good character since he did something immoral but in the end he was infact a human just like you and me. Alnost all of his bad deeds was due to him trying to save his DAUGHTER. But Peter Parker trying to play street hero and getting revenge for his uncle almost made him failing to save his ill daughter.
We need a tragic yet misunderstood supervillain. Dr Doom fit this criteria. He basically an anti-thesis of Royal Supremacy and He in his early years was infact a savior of a minority ethnic in europe.
I mean, his arrogance is justified. He is literally the best.
I like your idea of how to bring Doom into the MCU. Makes sense.
Bro predicted the villain and the title "avengers doomsday" about 7 years before the movie 🤯
"Some are scary, some are dangerous, some are filled with character but none of them are all these things; none except Dr.Doom"
As a non-western comic fan I'm sold (the pure hearted thing did help too)
That name tho😂
If they do make Doom the big bad I hope they flesh out his relationship with Reed. The Doom/Reed dichotomy is underrated and I want Doom vs Richards as well rather than just Avengers that don't have a personal connection Victor.
that third fantastic four movie need to have its character dynamics rooted in that conflict. That dichotomy needs to work
I do however hoped that Richard would tag team with Peter Parker in terms of intellect. Seriously peter's intelligence was underrepresented and he infact had an IQ of 250 even higher than Tony Stark. Now that Stark is dead, the only hyper-intellect human on Earth left were only banner, Parker, Strange and Reed. They should STOP making peter goofy goodie to shoes as if he was the Next Iron man/Iron man jr.
@@islamicschoolofmemestudies
Mcu Peter is really struggling in terms of being iron man. No way home will hopefully change that but I view him as annoying tbh.
Spidey is my favorite marvel character and I want the best for him. Maybe during no way home we see him experimenting with tech and gadgets on his own.
I wanna see him getting knee deep into tech, and not just mooching off stark stuff.
@@chriss.249 ayo so did your opinion change or not?
Tbh he also needs a relationship with Strange & Wakanda
“Doctor frickin Doom is the Marvel equivalent of Darth Vader”
Well that explains why he’s my favorite Marvel villain
I think Doctor Doom should be an "antivillain". He sometimes helps the heroes and sometimes attacks them, but always having something in mind. In Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes he is portrayed really well, he kidnaps sue storm and wasp and uncovers that sue is a skrull in disguise but the heroes just think he is being evil. He gives a scanner to tony stark and helps like that. That would be pretty cool.
@Kimble Simpson That's not all he is though. I don't really mean a sometimes good guy, I mean a guy who is fighting the same people the avengers are if he finds them a threat.
@Kimble Simpson thats what I meant, sorry if I didnt express it well
@Starscream91 the pope!
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not only do i think that doom has the capabilities to be as good of a villain as thanos, but i really think, if done right, he can be BETTER. he has the potential to be one of the greatest cinematic villains of all time.
I love using the fall of Sokovia as the place where Latvaria can rise
My man predicted the future
I think a Doom solo movie or even a Disney+ series based on The Books of Doom would actually make a lot of sense.
I definitely think Dr Doom should be the next 'mastermind.' He is definitely one of the more interesting villains, offering the most character and substance as you said. I like your idea of slowly building him up, but people will want to see him in F4 1 or F4 2 because he is their arch-enemy. Also, previous F4 movies have been mixed bags to flops, so if they put all their eggs into Dr Doom being the next 'mastermind', that might not work out. Also, I hope Galactus gets 2 movies. Either way, looking forward to finally seeing a comic-correct adaptation.
"He's the Michael Jordan of evil." 😂 I like that
Ikr 😂
Crazy how accurate some of these predictions are 3 years later
Soooo
Why hasn't Disney hired you yet
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if, by some miraculous twist of fate, Marvel makes a good decision and actually goes through with this, Doom needs to have a scene along the lines of Vader's hallway scene.
Walking down the hall, bullets crumpling against his forcefield, him throwing people around with his telekinesis and cutting people down with the same ethereal weapons Kaecilius used, warping reality in the same way as well, show off that he's mastered the magic of the Dark Dimension but, when we eventually see his scarred face much later in the film, his eyes are intact and there's no sigil on his head, he's fully dominated it, not letting it harm or control him.
What brought this on I wonder? Lol
Love the video bro but personally I'd love to have a solo Dr Doom movie like Books of Doom. Your ideas are very good and could work well for the MCU
Mystical like dr. Strange, technological like iron man, strong like Thor, ruler of a country like black panther, a symbol tou his own country like captain America, a sympathetic influencer like magneto.
One of the things that made Thanos so compelling too was that the other baddies the avengers had faced before him were his fault (the attack on New York, for example). As long as Doom does something similar and is tied to other tragedies the heroes have faced before, then I'll buy it.
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! Especially your map of the MCU going forward. I too think it stupid and pointless to do a Doom origin movie and also think that just throwing him into Fantastic Four as the villain is rushing it. He would make a great villain of the next three phases, which people don't get cause of his poor depiction in the movies. You could have him always behind the scenes, always manipulating the events of previous films with his power and influence, all building to an epic final film. HOWEVER, instead of Doomsday, seeing the Multiverse direction the MCU is heading in, I can do one better: SECRET WARS! That would definitely rival Infinity War/Endgame in scale, and we can see Emperor Doom, showcasing what Doom is fully capable of. You could also throw in the Beyonders throughout the next three phases to set that up too. What a bright future for the MCU.
man put a picture of brainiac and said its kang
Bro is absolutely nailing with the predictions. First David Corenswet as Superman, and now Doom (played by RDJ) as the new big bad to replace Kang in the Multiverse Saga
this is absolutely incredible
Your idea for Doom makes sense.
When he showed brainiac with a colour swap when he said Kang, I couldn't stop laughing
he predicted the actual new big villain
I would love to see an updated version of this regarding the theory’s for Doom being in BP 2, Kang becoming a larger villain, and the newer MCU projects happening!
After seeing him as Kylo Ren Adam Driver could really pull this off he can really play complex characters with deep emotion and pain which is really what the MCU Doom needs
Adam Driver's talents were wasted on Kylo 😤
I've seen two of your videos and I'm now hooked. Keep up this great work. Really enjoy your views on how the MCU should go
This was pretty much a "How to build a Dr. Doom for the MCU". As a fan of Doom, I would love to see if the MCU follows this adapation.
Dr. Doom is one of my favorite villains and I LOVE this concept! Who should play Dr. Doom?
Kevin Fiege is a genius trust me we'll get the true Doom on the big screen one day and I cant wait.
My first pick if Bryan Cranstan. He already played a self destructive genius egomaniac when he was playing Walter White.
Christian bale
Joseph Fiennes, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, or Cillian Murphy would be good
I would pick Mathew mcconaughey or Hugh grant
The fact that Noah Hawley was attached to the Dr.Doom solo movie project was gueninely exciting as he did an amazing work on Legion which was the best comics-related show of the last few years for me. Also a deep dive into a villain through a solo movie is something the MCU hasn't done yet so no I don't think the idea is that ridiculous it can be a way to shake things up in how they introduce their big bad.
Galactus is no small villain, he's crazy on his own too so using him for a build-up for doom must be worth it
A good villain is also a relatable villain, Doom knowing and believe he is the one who can save the future, is definitely relatable, doing horrible things in the service of good.
@Starscream91 And just like Harry Truman who was responsible for nuking Civilians, all done in the supposed "greater good" but no less a horrible thing.
The reason why it is relatable is because thats how humans are most easily ready to do evil acts, when they believe its for the betterment of the "tribe". Humans do everything for the greater good, just look at the trolley problem.
Now we cant relate to the beliefs of Adolf, which is probably what you're referring too.
wow! just wow! one of the best plot direction i've ever seen and coming from a channel with just this many subs.
I love the set up of Doom's introduction to MCU, great job and I hope Marvel Studios is listening!
Doom is by far my favorite marvel villain. He has such depth of character and i agree that he deserves a long and carefully crafted character arc in order to do him justice. After all the things sony did to my boy, i want his entrance into the mcu to be perfectly designed.
bro just predicted 3 years in the future
I love how you just show brainiac whenever you speak about Kang
This is so good! Now I want to see this so bad. Do Doom Justice!
This is much more well thought out vision than most videos i've seen, great job SUPER FRAME
Would work incredibly well, after the death of his mother and father Doom leaves to educate himself in technology and mystical arts, learns most of what he can to bring his mother back from hell. He needs resources and more koney so returns to Sokovia(Latveria) only to find it in near ruin after Ultron. Thus now is not only seeking to save his mother from Mephisto, but also the rest of the world from self destruction and heroes and a law which are incable of preventing destruction and death.
I like how you keep using Brainiac from the Injustice games as your stand-in for Kang. Brilliant!
Love your hypothetical. ...I kinda wanna see Doom mention the Infinity Gauntlet.
Like, somehow he finds out about its existence and in a quick throwaway line, he says something to the effect of, "I'll build my own as a hobby to kill time before my actual plan is finished". I feel like that'd be such a "Doom" line.
I dunno, just him making such a reference in such a way seems very in character for him to me.
“BRING ME DOOM!”
*leaps into Kevin Fiege’s office*
I want some MF DOOM references whenever we see Dr DOOM
Amazing video man! I agree DOOM NEEDS to be the next big bad after Thanos!
All I have is one word to describe your ideas.......Fantastic!
Dr.Doom is personally my favourite super villain, I really really hope they do him justice.
Man, I'm going crazy just thinking of the casting auditions for Doom.
Imagine if that kid from Iron Man 3 is the son of someone important down the line aswell
Must say that you’re a creative genius. The F4 concept is great although I think Annihilus should be saved for Nova and give the F4 Wizard, Super Skull, Heralds of Galactus, the Avengers and F4 Galactus and then of course Doom. Doctor Doom is my all time favourite villain!
Every time I remember how much I love your videos!
I love this concept man. I wasn't sure who I wanted to be the next big bad until I saw this video. This is an absolutely perfect concept.
Welp, this all still might happen, one way or another. Perhaps he kills Kang
I assume Kang will cause Secret Wars, but then Doom will take over
@@ozby11 probably, there won’t be much of an opportunity for Doom to be major villain after unless he’s gonna turn into an X-Men villain
I just found your channel, amazing content.
You clearly really love what you are talking about & it shows in your videos.
Confused at how you don't have at least a few hundred thousand subscribers.
hichaelmartline really appreciate that man, I just need to post more often so the algorithm starts to help me out 🤷🏻♂️
I do not know what to say I love how you brought all my wishes of the future of the mcu into perspective ,first time on this channel but I fell in love already😍#LOVE at first sight
This is a great pitch!!
Wow, that's a really cohesive and amazing story. I would love to see this story line take shape. Doom definitely should b the next big bad, hes the biggest sleeper villain.
I want dr doom to be like the Loki always lurking in the background, not just a one time villain also in the comics if the planet is in big danger Dr. Doom will help save it because he can't take something when there's nothing to take
What a glorious comic book time to be living in.
Your story telling ability is unmatched from any of these RUclipsrs. You definitely have a clear understanding of who these characters are and I also like the idea for Peter to pass the mantle to Miles. Good stuff
I never thought he was that powerful, but he seems to be able to do ANYTHING and get away with it somehow.
My only problem with the slow rollout of Doom at the rate things are moving is it seems like we will be fully in Young Avengers mode by the time they are able to properly bring him into the fold.
I want a Disney + on Dr Doom just bcoz I want him not just for mere 6 hours or so...Disney + can plough deep into the character's personality, his origin,
Like a 10 episode of 1 hr showing from his birth till his peak achieving the Doom he is ...
Showing plots from comics...Books of Doom are my fav...they can also show young Victor and Young Tony Stark (de-aged rdj) having a scientific argument...
Awesome idea, now I want to work on some scripts to build this idea
The way you've made this I honestly think has to be the way to do it
Dr doom series about him taking over latveria would be dope.
Doom is the ultimate. He is the only real Hero in the Marvel Comic line. Kneel and worship The only real God Emperor. Doom is invincible Doom is the only one worthy of worship. He is DOOOOOOOOOOOM!!
All hail lord DOOM
My heart breaks seeing Chadwick in the MCU plan talking about handing over the throne 😭 rip
Quick! Someone call Feige! This all sounds so good!
I couldn't agree with you more. Doom is the greatest villain Marvel has to offer and his character needs to be treated as such in the films. He isn't some one off villain used for the heroes origin and then gets killed off. As a character he has depth and intrigue deserving of a lot of screen time and development. And what can't be forgotten is that he is powerful, he is one of the most powerful villains in the entire universe and unlike Thanos who needed the Infinity Stones to be that powerful, Doom gets it all on his own. A mind and technological prowess rivaling Tony Stark and magical power on par with Doctor Strange. He needs to mop the floor with heroes and perform god like feats to display this power so the audience really understands how much of a threat he is.
This video just solidified how much I can't wait to see Nova Silver Surfer and Galactus in the MCU, my fav cosmic characters (and my favorite characters aside from DD and Spidey) lol
I have to say you make a lot of good points in your videos.
I see the mcu building towards secret wars as the next endgame like event, I don’t see them starting off with a villain as big as annihilus, they’d probably start with someone closer to the ground, and who better to start off with than molecule man. I see Galactus getting set up in a FF movie but ultimately being the villain of an avengers movie. I could see either Annihilus or Doom for either FF sequel
I wish i could give you 10 thumbs up.
Thabk you for knowing the character of Victor von Doom. This all makes sense. Disney should scoop you up and use this as a template. Great job!!
What Thanos lacked was development across the phases. With Doom they could have him be a prominent member in a few films before the climax
I just don’t want doom to die, because he can be involved in so much more stories
One idea I wrote for Doom's origin was to use the FF's Ultimate Marvel origin, but have him work on the portal. Reed notices a design flaw, that Doom refuses to correct because Doom can't admit when he's wrong. When the portal breaks down and the FF get sent to the Negative Zone, Doom spends years blaming Reed for the "death" of his friends. Time would flow differently in the Negative Zone so when the Four return, decades have past (among other things, Ben's wife has passed away). Doom is grateful to see his friends alive, but wants to make Reed admit "his" mistake. This is what ultimately drives the conflict between Doom and the Fantastic Four, as the rest of the Four still side with Reed. His former friends "betraying" him starts to make Doom paranoid and ultimately ruins his world domination plan.
Because it's not the Fantastic Four that are Doom's worst enemy, it's Doom himself.
Welp, I guess we're getting Kang as the next big bad.
I dont see why a Doom movie is a bad idea per say....I think an origin story movie on Doom is a great way to flesh out his character and really build him up
My idea is close to yours. Was talking about it to one of my friends a month ago. And this is what i came up with:
Doom rebuilds Sokovia. Becoming it's ruler. And he tricks a very depressed Scarlet Witch. Getting her on his side. But, it's a more damaged relationship than Harley and Joker.
The Original Avengers have either died or are retired. So, Doom sees this as the perfect opportunity to spread his rule.
Spiderman being a huge(perhaps the only) fan of The Fantastic 4. Still believes they are out there somewhere. He travels thru the jungles with Black Panther. And meets up with Kraven The Hunter(who is the big villain of the movie). After defeating Kraven. Peter and Kraven become allies. And they search the jungles for the forgotten tomb. That Doom imprisoned The Fantastic 4. The Movie ends with The Fantastic 4 revived. Leading to a Fantastic 4 prequel(set in the 60s). We see them fight crime against the likes of The Moleman and Namor. Finally falling to Doom at the end(not seeing his full power, just enough to know he's a fatal threat). This would lead to Avengers: Doom. Where Doom finds the portal to hell. Hulk and Doctor Strange attempt to stop Doom. Doom kills Strange. And just before Strange breathes his final breath. He passes his amulet to Hulk. Doom laughs. And sucks the Hulk into Hell. But...leaving Bruce Banner on earth. Bruce is followed by the spirit of Strange as his guide to teach him the ways of mystic arts. While recruiting The New Avengers. The final act is all The Avengers teaming up against Doom, Scarlet Witch, The Sinister 6, Justin Hammer and The Mandarin. The Avengers look like they have the battle won. Only for Doom to open the portal to hell to summon DEMON HULK!
Hey,this is the first video I saw of yours. Very good stuff,I like it. Looking forward to more. Peace, Bobtwi.
I'd love to see a solo Dr Doom movie. He is a hero. He is moved by tragedy to correct the wrongs in the world, the injustices committed to his people, the dead of his father and the imprisonment of his mother in hell.
Imagine following this young man taking on the world with nothing but his enormous willpower. Imagine witnessing this poor orphan taking over Latveria with a genius strategy, sure he'd have done morally questionable acts, but they're for the greater good. Then the glorious moment of final battle versus Mephisto, how against all odds he finally defeats the actual devil and rescues his mother.
Imagine loving this character and following down the road of his transformation from Victor to DR DOOM. It could be everything the second Star Wars trilogy wasn't.
I feel like Doom could definitely stay around for an eventual Secret Wars movie.
Fuck yes.
Your in-depth analysis and timeline remind me so much of my editor and I when we're scoping out our 15 book series. It takes work, but to build someone like Doom up properly, I think you're right. It takes time, and it's worth it in the end. The fanboy in me wants a Doom movie just as much as he wants a Thrawn movie - but the key thing is that I want a GOOD one. And for that, we have to simmer. We have to wait.
Honestly, Kevin Feige knows what he's doing as everything he plans on doing is already mapped out with the big bad in toe. I can easily see it being similar to what you want it to be. Just because you want it to be like this, and it does turn out to be like this wouldn't be because Kevin Feige seen your plans for the FF & Dr. DOOM, but because his plan was similar to yours all along. The writing is on the wall already & it's clear this is great & so is your idea of who should be Ben Grimm & Johnny Storm
Wow, your channel is underrated!
I actually loved your vision
Finally!!! Someone who sees what I see! 💯
Terry Crews as the SUPER_SKRULL!!!
I completely agree. They should not use Doom until maybe the third film. Doom deserves to be in other people’s franchises and to get his own Disney plus series. There is so much to the character that the films did not get right and deserves to get explored.
I think that if doom is the next thanos, then the 2015 secret wars should be the next endgame
If his entry music ain’t doomsday by MF DOOM imma be pissed
BROOOOO ive been saying they need to tribute MF DOOM since the idea of Doctor Doom in the MCU came around. I think Cellz would be a better song choice, it's more cold and menacing :)
As long as i see a FOOT DIVE ill love him
HAIL DOOM! Favorite villain
well Phase 4 is now pretty much confirmed to be Kang the conquer. As a matter of fact Kang looks like he will be much bigger than just phase 4.
Also he has to be around for phase 6 culmination with annihilation wave movie. So he can build towards battle word secret wars
After seeing what the MCU did for Thanos' buildup, I can't wait to see what they can do for Doom...
"I think I'm the hero"
- Dr Doom