Pavan Varma was great in explaining Hinduism, Adi Sankaracharya and Advaitya philosophy. As usual Shoma tried to sway the discussion towards Hindutva and politics.
BRILLIANT speech... and he is right... we ALL need to learn more about Shri Adi Shankaracharya... his life was absolutely fascinating.. and his thoughts & philosophies...are unparalleled in its sophistication & sublime beauty.
I have always respected Pavan for his clarity of thought and the way he cogently presented his points in the many debates I have seen him participate. This is one side of him that I just discovered. He is superbly articulate and a pleasure to listen to!
I wish this forum had anointed a different moderator for this dialogue. Shoma is fine but she lacks the intellectual prowess and inquisitiveness to learn about Adi Shankra. Moreover she is obsessed with tossing words like Hindutva when she doesn't understand the context of it. She stops a beautiful discourse in middle 20:08 and has pre set ideas about Hindu culture. Great talk by Pavan Verma.
Absolutely true. What is Hindutva if not Hinduness, which is a uniquely palpable quality of Hindus? It looks like this lady wants to be labelled and associated with a category of somewhat anti-Hindu people whom she admires (yet hiding behind the veil of Adi Shankara). It is strange that Pavan did not put the record straight either (making one suspect if he is one of those dry scholars and not an ardent practitioner of Hinduism).
Robert Mitchell, You really are funny... But I guess you are right. All these years I thought I was the one being pompous to consider giggly eyelashes fluttering females to be bimbos. & yes, the typical commies are dimwits, men or women.
Congratulations to both the ALGEBRA for organizing the dialogue and the speaker for his excellent lucid narration of such an complex abstract topic where clarity is the need of the hour.I strongly recommend all educated Indians especially the young to read his book in the true Indian spirit and if necessary debate in the traditional shastrartha.
Name Algebra came from Arabic name Al-Jabbar who took the knowledge from India and wrote it in Arabic. The Europeans took the Arabic book and translated it into Latin and named it as Algebra to honor Al-Jabbar without the realization that the concept came from India. Hinduism, as the lady put it, is not 'indeterminate'! It is the seekers' path and knowledge changes as the time passes. That does not mean it is confused or indeterminate!! Enjoy the open architecture of the Hinduism!! Mr Verma forgets that Kauravas are there in every generation following Adharma and any amount of debate did not move Duryodhana and war was inevitable! It may not be politically correct for a diplomat to accept violence as a solution, but inevitability prevails!
Why is this lady so against Swami Vivekananda and Sri Aurobindo ? Again and again she refers to their teachings as a " travesty " ...shame on such bigoted brain dead journos . Swamiji and Sri Aurobindo did what they felt was their duty towards Hindus who were completely oblivious towards the situation of India and Indians . They re-instilled a sense of pride in HIndus for their Dharma and Nation which had extinguished as a result of the propagation of the 'colony mindset ' which the British wanted to impregnate into every Indian . Madam you need to do a deep study of the works of these two giants (and hearing the type of relatively low intelligence questions you asked I bet you wont be able to even comprehend most of Aurobindo ) . Yes they were HIndu Nationalists and inspired others as well including Netaji Subhash Bose . Dont like it ? then protest outside Belur Math in Kolkata and Auroville in Pondicherry.
@@vipulghatge1559 you can't be tolerant towards someone who is intolerant against you even though it's your ideology to be tolerant towards others. You do it at your own peril.
nice to hear pavan varma sir. an intelctual man deep knowledge of hinduism is outstanding and mind boggling. i'm proud that i am hindu and born in this great and land of siants country.
Totally amazed to see the other side Sri Pavan Varma. It’s good that he relinquished the spokesperson of an infested party like congress and turned to the core elements of Hindu philosophy. 🙏🙏🙏
Surender Bhutani No it's not. He clearly neglects Abrahamic cults and self assumes that they are equivalent to Sanatana Dharma. He equates religion with Dharma and this is omnious
Reconquista: Hinduism: It does not ASSUME it... It is INSISTING that it is... & are twisting the Hindu Dharma concepts to FIT & look like the abrahamic ideology
Mr. Pawan Verma has delved into the Hindu philosophy of Adi Shankaracharya and that was simply great. Many a times even the moderator was hesitant to stop Pawan Verma during his discourse because he explained it so profoundly in a very simple language. This philosophy was not able to stop the invaders and marauders from substituting it with their philosophy of an exclusive faith because there was no dharma guru to stop them as some things can be countered only with the might of swords which the dharma guru did not possess hence the common man had to fend for himself and ended up converting himself as has also happened in Goa during the Portuguese inquisition. We were lucky due to the size of our country that the invaders and marauders were not able to impose their philosophy in this whole land as they did with Zoroastrian Iran and now they have done with the tribal state of Mizoram otherwise nobody would have remembered this philosophy at this point of time as it would have been wiped off from the face of the earth and we would not have seen Pawan Verma and the moderator discussing it. This is where Hindutva and Nationalism comes which I suppose Pawan Verma refers to as Hindu Evangalism. The Hindutva and Nationalism does not restrict others to live peacefully in this land and practice their faith as long as they owe allegiance to this land its laws and its people as they are part of it and not to the land of their faith. The rigors of politics and the reaction to violent radicalism has created fringe elements which every Hindu Nationalist abhors. I have seen Pawan Verma innumerable times on various channels during a debate but he is unable to articulate his position freely in today`s charged political atmosphere and the Kashmir issue due to his political affiliation. It would also be interesting to see a debate between Pawan Verma and Rajeev Malhotra.
Pavan talks about rootless cosmopolitanism and people who have read Ramayan as comics. Shoma is definitely one of those! The way she brought in the names of Aurobindo Ghosh and Swami Vivekananda is deplorable.
Simply brilliant Pavanji. Spoken from heart-very inspirational.Ever considered leaving your Political role and starting an Ashram or an Institution for imparting Vedic knowledge. I would like to be your first batch student.This is a serious suggestion.
Shoma, Dont Compare Love Jihad with these Intellectual Discussions. Shows and displays the shallowness of your thinking. ( Read some UK newspapers You might learn reality.)
it is not adi it is aadi or beginning. why is she pronouncing all indian words with a anglicised accent. This lady is such a fake. We are not caught in extremes, it is your dirty head that is caught in colonial hangover.
Shoma understands the philosophy, but she has read very less on Vivekananda and Aurobindo. She would be amazed how universal their ideas were. I blame her leftist associations for her reaction of Vivekananda and Aurobindo even before knowing. Vivekananda and Aurobindo said the same thing as Adi Shankaracharya but in modern terms and in a way much suitable to today
@@vishIndian-u3g ...do you think she can read about shankaracharya in one book and within minutes she becomes an expert on shankaracharya??? Where do you keep this kind of stupidity???shankaracharya to know him you have to know the 108 upanishads you have to know all the books that he has written you have to know the contextual dimensions and practice and develop it in the correct intellectual and philosophical context that is needed shoma chaudhari is a flimsy intellectual when it comes to philosophy, is a propagandist and wannabe wordsmith for sure, but not a philosopher.....what does she know about Vivekananda does she know what Vivekananda says about bhakti says about Shakti and Brahmin says at about the great mother what does he say about science education art music integrity....does she know that a critic of Hinduism which was done by Michael madhusudan dutta one of the greatest poets of Bengal what's the favourite poet of Vivekananda and he defended his freedom of speech what does she know about Vivekananda she is not even an inch of Vivekananda someone like rabindranath thakur loved aurobindo and he wrote a poem dedicated to aurobindo that she know about that she is an absolutely ignorant person when it comes to anything because she is a film is a superficial intellectual in the story!!!
Brilliant book and unfortunately time constraint interview. Anyway, would love to see conversations between devdutt patanaik and Mr. Pavan... that would be brilliant philosophical, linguistic, scientific (at quantum perspective), and somewhat historical conversation... more power to ALGEBRA for at least putting this together...
she is ignorant or malicious? Again berating our great philosophers like Vivekananda as being only supporters of vedanta is laughable to say the least. And Mr. Pavan seems to clearly have his own agenda in ignoring that accusation. Firstly we have several books on ethics including the Patanjali's Yoga Sutra detailing the Yama -Do's, Niyama don'ts. These self appointed interpreters of Hinduism are at best trying to act secular. Who said only dialogue is the way. Yes with civilized people, that can be the way not when there is a war. Why is why in Bhagawad Gita Sri Krishna asks Arjuna to take his weapons and Fight against Adharma!
Shoma is a great facilitator with profound intelligence and humorous too. I am amzaed how she asks questions without looking at any paper nor she uses clincher. She is congenial and venerates her guests on dais. She is a gifted journalist.
Well Mr Pavan Verma, let me try to expose your prejudice.. 1. According to Advaita Vedanta, only Jnanam or true knowledge of the Self is supreme.. everything else, be it Bhakti or Karma or Upasana etc comes next. 2. So though Vendata never says other philosophies and view points are wrong, it does say that they all are inferior truths.. and Advaita Vedanta is the only supreme truth. 3. Upholding 'Dharma' is the fundamental duty of every person. Even if you indulge in materialistic life, upholding 'Dharma' is primordial. 4. Even a Vedantin who has devoted his entire life to vedantic studies and contemplation is bound to live a Dharmic life. 5. Most Indian religions such as Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, etc are rooted in Dharmic path. 6. Almost all of Abhrahamic religions such as Islam, Christianity etc have no idea of Dharma and are sometimes even proponents of Adharma. 7. Now Mr Pavan Verma, you want to call yourself a 'secular' , 'tolerant' Hindu who 'respects' other religions and philosophies, and won't belittle them. Fair enough.. But why do you belittle 'Hindutva' brigade? Why do you discard them as non Hindus? Yes, no doubt most of them are ignorant of Advaita Vedanta philosophy, but yet they're atleast followers of a Dharmic life and culture.. know? For your political gains and convenience, you are a 'secular' 'tolerant' Hindu, but yet you discard 'Hindutva'brigade? Your logic is Laughable..
Without even going to big examples, do you think bashing up a couple experiencing the emotion of love is dharmic? Even if you say those goons are not true hindutvavaadis, THEY assume authority over hindutva and justify their adharma through the organized religion. I think the problem is the term HINDUTVA has been appropriated by a whole lot of groups of people, some of them may be orthodox, some liberal and others in between. So, I don't know if it's right to frown whenever someone says "Hindutva" because voices like you and I are in minority and the ignorants in majority.
BRITISH BRAINWASHED CONGRESS LEADERS NEHRU, GANDHI ETC. WITH HIDDEN AGENDA TO MAKE INDIA ADOPT SECULAR CONSTITUTION TO DESTROY INDIA AFTER INDEPENDENCE BY WEAKENING INDIA FOR HISTORY TO REPEAT. ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY ETC. ARE TRYING TO DESTROY INDIA . HINDUS ARE SUPPRESSED & MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS ARE GIVEN ENCOURGEMENT. MUSLIMS OF INDIA HAVE BETTER FREEDOM & OPPORTUNITIES THAN MUSLIMS, HINDUS, CHRISTIANS ETC. NON MUSLIMS OF ALL ISLAMIC COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.
I am happy that the politicians are trying to articulate views of the great Adi Shankara. However, what is the point in discussing with a person like Shoma who has zero exposure to the vaidic shastras. They should have gotten a learned person and have a debate. This person could have challenged some of Pavan's infrerences. That's the way of Sanatana Dharma.
Why? Do you have a prejudice against Shoma Shaunaq wasn't Mr. Pavan Varma a IFS officer so doesn't it mean that he has seen if " Maya" too. And doesn't he say that even Adi Shankaracharya & Shiva, Krishna & Parvati have a Goddess by their side symbolizing Shakti 😂😂😂 so if Gods can have hanky spanky dealings with ladies & many in our mythological Gods do just as in Greek mythology( Helen ) or in Roman mythology so a earthly lady is just having a tete- a - tete with Mr. Parvan Varma also she us trying to learn so must not be censored, be tolerant to all kinds of people that is after all want Indian philosophy says.
@@anuradhainamdar8967 No prejudice but let's assume that one questions the intricacies of Theory of relativity with an arts major who has never sat inside a Physics class. How would you feel about his/her opinions? BTW, have you read any of Shankaracharya's work in it's original form? I mean Brahmasutra bhashyam, Vivek chudamani, Chandogya Upanishad Bhashyam, etc. His insight into these texts are not for the feeble hearted or casual reader. You need a lot of background in all four vedas to understand or challenge his angle because he cross references verses & inferences from these sources to elucidate his point. Here is a small example of how it is done: ruclips.net/video/o8-_dyeU4WY/видео.html Also, I found it equally funny that these conversation are sponsored by "The Glenlivet". Clearly this whole rambling from both side is non-serious, without any basis & done by rank amateurs who have no business to discuss Adi Shankara's views.
@@r8rdarklord Ok, yes might be correct though you have no prejudice towards women who only object to her been offered the job of interviewing. 2 Though I am a History student till B.A. & my father had all the series of Upanisands, Puranas, Vedas, but they in Marathi. 3. I have a good aquantaince with want the all Vedas hymns says, philosophical texts says. Because of Times of India columns on thought of the day. 4.May be are well versed in Upanisands & so sorry for judging your opinion.
@@anuradhainamdar8967 I am a krama pathi in the Taittiriya Shakha of Krishna Yajurveda and consider myself as an humble student of the great Adi Shankara. Prejudiced towards women is one thing that I am not. This is borne by the fact that the discussion between Yagyavalky & Maitreyi (his wife) in the chaturtha Brahmanam of the Brihadaranyako Upanishad on the nature of Brahman happens to be one of my favourites. I can recite those passages backward forward & backward as required for a kramapathi. It irks me when somebody either makes light of the vidya described in Vedas or misinterprets them. Adi Shankara during his life use to say: Shruti PramanaM.
She mentions that Algebra is an Arabic word but fails to mention that the theories of Algebra were brought to Bagdad by Hindu Pandits, as was the decimal system. The Arabs know they are Hindu numbers, but when they passed them on to Europe and the Europeans called them Arabic numerals... Al'Gebra
I am proud to be from a county where thousands of years ago very scientific philosophy vedanta devoloped, but dissapointed with our education system as we are never taught seriously upanishads ,vedantic philosophy,and 6 vaidic philosophies NYAYA, YOGA,VEDANTA,VAISHISHIKA,MIMANSA, VYAKARANA
Pavan Verma is a great student of Hinduism where DEBATING an issue is the essence of an argument. However, if the opposing party from another religion does not believe in DEBATE, then the only way to win an argument is by the least common denominator which is FORCE.
The anchor describes Vedas to be Brahmanical while she is fool/ignorant whichever you choose, she doesn't know about Rishi Vishwamitra, one of central characters in Vedas, happens to be Kshatriya.
It was interesting to see how Shoma tried hard to extract some affirmation from Dr. Verma about the hypothesis that the trio of Vivekananda, Aurobindo Ghose and Dayananda saraswati somehow straitjacketed Hinduism and laid the foundation of a 'Hindu nationalism'. This is the much familiar line of argument of Western Indologists. She has perhaps consumed a lot of it.
The anchor Shoma is talking all the non-sense and trying to politicize the dialogue in every few minutes. How much did she understood Vivekananda and Aurovinda before commenting on them? Did she read the complete work of Swami Vivekananda before commenting on him? The famous Rabindranath Tagore (who is considered the pioneer of Bengali Renessaince and far more anti-national than today's this anchor Shoma) quoted about Swamiji that "Every Indian should study Swami Vivekananda to understand true India and there is nothing negative about him".
Shoma anand's expression 'oh, you are getting standing ovation! ' is sooooo cute. Had yaswant sinhaji delayed for an hour more she would have reached 'sachidanand' state of mind. It is necessary to take break from 'spirits' to understand spirituality. Detoxification process followed by treatment. if talking about adi shankaracharya gets standing ovation for pavan varmaji, the whole world stands for shankaracharya's philosophy. Hinduism means universalism & connecting with the cosmos . Not just looking for 'arth' on earth but seeking 'paramaarth '. Gandhiji followed bhagavadgita which teaches inclusiveness of whole humanity.there is no heart that shuts the door when you say that u r from gandhi's land. bapu is mahatma, shankara is paramatma. Unfortunately some uneducated indians propogate that science started when apple dropped on newton's head & rest of all truths are mythology. Pavanji, as always it was a pleasure hearing your clear thoughts,expression & deeper knowledge. You bring a different dimension to civilized debate of convictions & dialogue.All evangelists shall automatically disappear if politicians protectc& uphold constitution at its full capacity wiithout playing Loksabha & Rajyasabha snake & ladder game. Thanks.
fascinating discussion. very revealing. it is very true that Hinduism is accepted thru dialogues. not to confuse witn hinduthva. that becomes necessary to check false propaganda and disruption by others who nesgate our values. can pawan varma make Christians and muslims to discuss ,
Mr. Verma sir, i was never thought you are so knowledge bank when you use to participate in T.V. debates as some party spokesperson. great. need more elaborated lecture the conversation had between Chandaal and Sri.shankara. Mr. verma please keep up load at least one video per day/week on youtube and enlighten us( how rajiv malhotra, N. gopalakrishnan(from kerala) are up loading . thanks for the nice interview - to Algebra &Verma what is the book name and publisher?
Pawan Verma is basically right in his interpretation of Adi Shankracharya. IMO. He should read Guru Nanak to learn how the thought progressed and developed in the Bhakti Era.
As I was considered Pawan Verma as a dirty, shrewd politician, but my opinion has changed after listening this discourse!He has very good command on Hindu philosophy!
I liked the way Pavan Verma denied to comment on Swami Vivekananda in a bad light which this notorious self-identified secualr anchor tried so hard. She asked this question three times that Swamiji, Aurovinda and Dayananda were all wrong in understanding Hinduism because they also had some missionary zeals. But, Pavan verma always rebutted with the philosophical underpinning and concluded that there is no contradition between the Advaita of Shankara, Bhakti of Ramakrishna and Advaita of Vivekananda. Hope the so-called secularists will understand this at some point.
Algebra is a word derived from AL Jabbar,. Jabbar a person of Iranian? descent who compiled the mathematics known in the Indian subcontinent at the time. Did not know Algebra had some other meaning.
Bertrand Russell's book 'The Scientific Outlook' thoroughly demolishes Pavan Varma's scientific harping. Read the chapter 'Science and Metaphysics' and 'Science and religion' from his book which is available as a free pdf online.
I have read the Book by Sri.Pawan K.Verma.With respect to the Interviewer ( though one comments as “annoying” ) Firstly Sri.Pawan K.Varma is highly learned ,dressed traditionally INDIAN. Secondly there is No necessary to be “quickly” hurrying up in her second sentence,using inappropriate words like “ Fight” with Mandala MISRA.When interviewing such learned people it would be ideal if an experienced,Sanskrit exponent,articulate in its tradition be carefully selected, Added to the interviewer,The Glenlivet .? God Save us !
The moderator's views on Swami Vivekananda and Sri Aurobindo - evident from her line of questioning - appears to be based on a superficial understanding (or a deep misunderstanding) of their works. It is important that we judge personalities by the circumstances and times they lived in, and by the purpose their work served. Both of these spiritual giants of modern India had the onerous task of awakening the Indian who was driven to despair, inertia and inferiority complex by centuries of colonization and oppression, and they chose the spiritual realm to realize that goal.
Why do narrow-minded moderators feel a need to cut short just when the author is getting into middle of some serious narration?? Sheer stupidity i guess.
I just finished reading the book written By Sri.Pavan K Varma. Also read and reread the works Sri Shankar Bhagavatpada every day.I am 70 years now. After reading Mr.Varma's "bashya "on the great Shankaracharya ,one can say Mr.Varma has drawn parallels between Science and Religion; further it's interrelation with quarks and God particle. He is no ordinary man. He should not be used in political debates on television with narrow minded anchors.He should write books with more parallels with Upanishads,great saints of Bharatvarsh.I feel "Sir your image is very much lowered with those sponsors products advertised in the back drop,especially you being addressed "Pavan "by name like an ordinary man.Definately not in public." As somebody put in the comments would like this RUclips by trimming the anchor. So that your respect is high in our minds. May be I will only read your books in future. Your book Adi Shankara and your talk is a Great knowledge for our youth. Jai kumar,Bangalore.
Good attempt by a politician to know about Adi Shankaracharya. Would be interesting to read the book written by him. Moderator is totally dissapointing. Her long questions and their content reveal her total lack of requisites for such a task.
It would also be good if Mr.Pavan Varma write about & talk one of Ancient India's greatest women Philosophers & so debater Gargi in context of today women activist both from center, left, & ignorant Hindu Sadhavis like once militant Uma Bharati & others extremely rabid women representing BJP like Mrs. Irani & many more.
A very good and commendable effort by Shri Pavan Varma. But before I comment further, a word about the moderator Ms. Shoma. This interaction was more suited for someone with adequate depth of knowledge and understanding, and endowed with a spirit of curiosity or enquiry. Shoma is too shallow to engage in such a discussion. Just look at how she brings in words like hindutva, love jihad etc. reflecting her misplaced sense of secular outlook. Well, she could be forgiven for her lack of knowledge and perspective, but definitely not for trying to diminish the likes of Swami Vivekananda, Shri Aurobindo or Veer Sawarkar for that matter. A couple of points regarding Mr. Varma’s assertions. His example of two electrons far apart, one in Tokyo and the other in India, if being along the same axis would have the same direction of spin; there seems to be some confusion here. In the subject example, the axis would pass through the earth due to it’s curvature. It’s well known that any two points distinctly apart would have a common axis passing through them. Likewise for two electrons. His example may be true if the two electrons do not have intervening material between them?? My other observation is on the reference to certain advocates of Sanatan Dharma as ‘Evangelists’, which is so untrue and misrepresentative. Since the beginning, the practitioners of Sanatan Dharma have never evangelized. They have always been on the path of seeking.Evangelizing is the favorite activity of Abrahamic faiths. Pavan Varma would have done well to refer to the religion as Sanatan Dharma rather than Hinduism. The urge to appeal to a wider cross section of the masses leads sometimes to falling into the company of unlettered moderators and even dumber audiences who clap at inanities.
Vivekananda straight jacketed Hinduism and rejected multiplicity? That news to me and I read the complete works of Vivekananda. One doesn't even need to read his complete works, just read his Chicago speech at the parliament of religions and that is enough to disprove this notion. And his master was a Kali devotee by the way. Shoma should do some more making such allegations. i'm also disappointed that Pawan didn't address this.
Some interesting points, Pawan. Always great to hear people talk about Adi Sankara... although the anchor seemed clueless and politically motivated! Will not be following or recommeding algebra channel, which is founded by people like her!!
I agree as he does not answer to defend Swami Vivekanda and other philosophers. These philosophers never supported only Advaita. In fact Sri Shankara himself has sung in Bhakthi devotionals like Bhaja Govindam as well! Truly one path never contradicts the other it embellishes it!! These single dimension politics ridden biased philosophers who do not tell the full truth , remain silent instead of countering the untruths from moderator and do not add too much value and should be ignored. If you want to understand Hinduism, learn from Vivekananda, Pathanjali or directly from the books of Krishna, Shankara or Ramanuja or Madhva and more.
The Anchor, naming her "Durbuddhi" for a moment, puts all the four great thought-leaders belonging to various multitudes of nationalist philosophy in the same leftist stereotype of hers, to defame them by accusing them of appropriating Advaita, when she herself has been doing that in a Evangelical way! Ridiculous! And why the hell, Pawan Verma didn't respond to that?
India at 7th century were at peak of knowledge. The Buddhist university of nalanda, vikramshila, odantipuri, jagadalla were teachings the highest knowledge to mankind from whole world and it's here that shankaracharaya learned about Buddhism and he adopted the Buddhist doctrines, philosophy , and even made Buddha as avtar of Hindu god visnhu.
European enlightenment was greatly influenced by indian text like Upanishads many European luminaries came in contact with Upanishads and their whole thinking pattern changed and they started questioning fixed teaching of churches.
Philosophy like advait Vedanta kept India as one otherwise how can a Bengali can relate with a Tamil but once you understand that underlying everything is one then there is no problem to stay together and not to fight.
The lady interviewing appears to be more suited for political interviews. She seems to be wearing her secular political colors up her sleeve. Disgusting that politics is mixed with such a wonderful presentation of Pavan. As a student of philosophy myself for 5 years it is sickening, thanks to the lady.
No, scientists are not asking 'why cannot there be a big crunch.' Pavan Varma is saying both that the 'universe is expanding' and that a big crunch is in our future. The observational evidence has already shown that the universe is expanding and over time, the galaxies will go beyond our event horizon and our entire night sky will consist of the Local Group of Galaxies which are gravitationally bound.
Hey Hey! Finally the liberals found their New Hindu Boy in town! Hope & Wish he grows, understands people better and explain the flock on how not to demean people in the "Right" for political gains. Btw, surprising that no one is talking about his offensive usage of "Evangelism".
Krishna B This is nothing. He should have said that Sanatana Dharma is the best , most liberal irrespective of all divisive parameters including homosexuality. He should have started with the definition of dharma. Also , hinduism is incomplete without mutual respect , dignity and debates all of them which are lacking in islam and christianity. In fact these are aggressive , non redirecting cult directed at destruction if hinduism Also , hinduism totally accepts criticizing other religions as well s accepts it's own criticism. And hinduism tells us to speak with extreme clarity and frankness and that is the rationale of speaking against christianity and islam.
Nakul Sharma Except for its not. He should have started with the definition of dharma. And said that , vedas never endorsed any caste system and that hinduism alwsys demand mutual respect and dignity that islam and christianity can never give. Hinduism tell us to defend against such evil expansionist forces totally disregarding of others faiths , worse killing them as per divine commandment.
This lady moderator has fixed ideas about Hinuism which according to her revolves around lynching love jihad, Dina Nath Batra, psychofants and is a political movements - going to the extent of naming Shavarkar.. She wants the speaker to leave his subjact and come around to her political aims. For her the greatest happening to rhe sheer if Hinduism was getting into Kama and his encounter with Chandal. She insists time and again that her political agenda be endorsed. That is her Algebra. Shame.
Advaitha Philosophy is the answer for all the problems in the world today. Adi Shankaracharya foresaw this long long ago. Please don't divide this country by using the term Hinduism or Hindutva. It is a culture of Love. It is not a religion. Which country you find so many religions ? More expressively expressed by Sri.Pavan K.Varma, in the last part of this interview. What more can Mr. Varma say ! ! Jai kumar m.s.,Bangalore
I have read the book and it is an easy read & a product of good research. Science section, though, is just a recycle of content present in most books (by scientists & science writers) published in the past 3-4 decades on quantum physics, cosmology & parallels between modern science and eastern wisdom. Nothing special. But PV has done a good job of explaining the spiritual essence of Advaita, Shankara's brilliant, logical arrival at the nature of reality from Vedanta perspective. Having said that, I wish PV doesn't engage in conversations with these pseudo-liberals like this lady. They are disingenuous. While she extols the Brahman principle of Hinduism's message, her real objective is to target Hindus who are finding their spirit of dharma through life & works of great sages like Aurobindo, SV etc. Criticizing the highly reactionary fringe among Hindus (there are always people within any group who give expression to the existential threats, real or imagined, they face, in the most undesirable manner) is just a door to get into the general "Hindu bashing" space. Just as PV explains the non-dual Vedanta and great tradition of "samvaad", intellectual debates in our glorious past, he does talk about the four purusharthas, paramarthika & vyvaharika realms, and how to balance them in the right way to seek moksha. What does that mean? Even PV misses that. In the vyavaharika world, dharmics have been brutalized by extremist, predatory, expansionist, exclusivist religions from the west of Indus. There is a millennium-long history of this brutality that drove the dharmic society into survivalist mode. So, is it wrong or irrational for the descendants of these brutalized dharmic ancestors to think in terms of their survival and preservation of their way of life? I won't even question the lady & her ilk (they are sold to an irrational, self-defeating notion of secularism) but why would PV think dharmics can resolve every threat using dialogue? Why does India need army then? Let's allow every marauder to invade this land and sing "we are all one". Let's eliminate (that itself is antithetical the celebrated idea of diversity) those Hindutva "reactionaries" and allow every clever missionary & Caliphate-seeking exclusivist to destroy the very society that discovered and propagated the non-dual spiritualism. Will you be happy Pavan Varma? It is silly & naive to think that you can have dialogue with crazies who want the establish a caliphate or a global church and force everyone to obey one true God, abide by one holy book and die for one true prophet. The peaceful and compassionate Chinese Buddhist monks developed martial arts to defend against the violence of Mongol brutes. Why didn't they just prefer to have dialogue? PV should know that those who are quite passionate in defending dharma may not be well-versed in great Hindu spiritual wisdom like he does, but they know that in the vyavaharik world where multiplicity does exist and conflicts do arise in this realm, they need to confront the irrational, homogenizing forces. It is not always pretty, but needs to be done. That's why Sri Krishna gave the Gita, to wake up the philosophizing & indignant Arjuna to pick up his weapon and fight against the Kauravas. Pavan Varma, I do respect you a lot, but in the modern, geopolitical world, a society that has a history of invasion, that continues to see #BreakingIndia forces engaged in subversive actions, one cannot expect every member of that society to just philosophize & chant "tat tvam asi" (I really wish the whole world chants it) & ignore the signs of trouble. Such a society is forced to build many layers of security to protect its way of life. Of course, "samvaad" is the best policy; but there will be people who will not engage in samvaad if they see flashing swords in the other camp. And, it will be foolish to think that this "other" doesn't exist in this land of Vedanta.
Shoma has to bring in hinduta and savarkar as manifestation of intellectual bigotry of what she thinks is her clever agenda to fight a certain section of people via her learned guests.it is sick to see how Mr. pavan is on a different plane of intellect and how she is ordinary and hyped journalist who is just fishing for some controvery. And that laugh, can't be anything more fake than that ...
Pavan Varma was great in explaining Hinduism, Adi Sankaracharya and Advaitya philosophy. As usual Shoma tried to sway the discussion towards Hindutva and politics.
BRILLIANT speech... and he is right... we ALL need to learn more about Shri Adi Shankaracharya... his life was absolutely fascinating.. and his thoughts & philosophies...are unparalleled in its sophistication & sublime beauty.
I have always respected Pavan for his clarity of thought and the way he cogently presented his points in the many debates I have seen him participate. This is one side of him that I just discovered. He is superbly articulate and a pleasure to listen to!
I agree entirely.
I wish this forum had anointed a different moderator for this dialogue. Shoma is fine but she lacks the intellectual prowess and inquisitiveness to learn about Adi Shankra. Moreover she is obsessed with tossing words like Hindutva when she doesn't understand the context of it. She stops a beautiful discourse in middle 20:08 and has pre set ideas about Hindu culture. Great talk by Pavan Verma.
Absolutely true. What is Hindutva if not Hinduness, which is a uniquely palpable quality of Hindus? It looks like this lady wants to be labelled and associated with a category of somewhat anti-Hindu people whom she admires (yet hiding behind the veil of Adi Shankara). It is strange that Pavan did not put the record straight either (making one suspect if he is one of those dry scholars and not an ardent practitioner of Hinduism).
And she is shamelessly Hinduphobic too... not that Mr. Verma is VERY pro Hindu either. He too is one of the appropriation facilitators.
she is a typical Marxist left wing socialist
you can tell these types constant giggling low Iq dense
Robert Mitchell, You really are funny... But I guess you are right. All these years I thought I was the one being pompous to consider giggly eyelashes fluttering females to be bimbos. & yes, the typical commies are dimwits, men or women.
hinduphobia & hate
this whole algebra team 👎
When our false perception is corrected, misery ends also.”
― Adi Shankaracarya, Shankara's
Great articulation of Adi Shankaracharya' s advaitya philosophy by Pavan Varma.
Pavan has done an excellent work on this complex subject! Absolutely fantastic.
Congratulations to both the ALGEBRA for organizing the dialogue and the speaker for his excellent lucid narration of such an complex abstract topic where clarity is the need of the hour.I strongly recommend all educated Indians especially the young to read his book in the true Indian spirit and if necessary debate in the traditional shastrartha.
Brilliant , powerful and logical exposition by Sri Pawan Verma.
Name Algebra came from Arabic name Al-Jabbar who took the knowledge from India and wrote it in Arabic. The Europeans took the Arabic book and translated it into Latin and named it as Algebra to honor Al-Jabbar without the realization that the concept came from India. Hinduism, as the lady put it, is not 'indeterminate'! It is the seekers' path and knowledge changes as the time passes. That does not mean it is confused or indeterminate!! Enjoy the open architecture of the Hinduism!! Mr Verma forgets that Kauravas are there in every generation following Adharma and any amount of debate did not move Duryodhana and war was inevitable! It may not be politically correct for a diplomat to accept violence as a solution, but inevitability prevails!
Why is this lady so against Swami Vivekananda and Sri Aurobindo ? Again and again she refers to their teachings as a " travesty " ...shame on such bigoted brain dead journos .
Swamiji and Sri Aurobindo did what they felt was their duty towards Hindus who were completely oblivious towards the situation of India and Indians . They re-instilled a sense of pride in HIndus for their Dharma and Nation which had extinguished as a result of the propagation of the 'colony mindset ' which the British wanted to impregnate into every Indian . Madam you need to do a deep study of the works of these two giants (and hearing the type of relatively low intelligence questions you asked I bet you wont be able to even comprehend most of Aurobindo ) . Yes they were HIndu Nationalists and inspired others as well including Netaji Subhash Bose . Dont like it ? then protest outside Belur Math in Kolkata and Auroville in Pondicherry.
Dharma View she must be keep of po.pe
Dharma View heyy
why are you even watching this then....lol....go watch a so called journo bark who fits your iq on a channel that begins with an r
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i am sure ur faith does not teach you to belittle someone elses faith
@@vipulghatge1559 you can't be tolerant towards someone who is intolerant against you even though it's your ideology to be tolerant towards others. You do it at your own peril.
I am amazed at his knowledge of Hindu scriptures....
What a fantastic speaker! I wanna read the book! So thankful for have heard this one.
Algebra ur discussions r such a bliss to watch. Every time I come across ur discussion I feel enlightened ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👌👌👌👌
nice to hear pavan varma sir. an intelctual man deep knowledge of hinduism is outstanding and mind boggling. i'm proud that i am hindu and born in this great and land of siants country.
Totally amazed to see the other side Sri Pavan Varma. It’s good that he relinquished the spokesperson of an infested party like congress and turned to the core elements of Hindu philosophy. 🙏🙏🙏
A fascinating discourse and a very thought-provoking challenge to many scholars.
Dr Surender Bhutani Warsaw (Poland)
Surender Bhutani
No it's not.
He clearly neglects Abrahamic cults and self assumes that they are equivalent to Sanatana Dharma. He equates religion with Dharma and this is omnious
Reconquista: Hinduism: It does not ASSUME it... It is INSISTING that it is... & are twisting the Hindu Dharma concepts to FIT & look like the abrahamic ideology
Mr. Pawan Verma has delved into the Hindu philosophy of Adi Shankaracharya and that was simply great. Many a times even the moderator was hesitant to stop Pawan Verma during his discourse because he explained it so profoundly in a very simple language. This philosophy was not able to stop the invaders and marauders from substituting it with their philosophy of an exclusive faith because there was no dharma guru to stop them as some things can be countered only with the might of swords which the dharma guru did not possess hence the common man had to fend for himself and ended up converting himself as has also happened in Goa during the Portuguese inquisition. We were lucky due to the size of our country that the invaders and marauders were not able to impose their philosophy in this whole land as they did with Zoroastrian Iran and now they have done with the tribal state of Mizoram otherwise nobody would have remembered this philosophy at this point of time as it would have been wiped off from the face of the earth and we would not have seen Pawan Verma and the moderator discussing it. This is where Hindutva and Nationalism comes which I suppose Pawan Verma refers to as Hindu Evangalism. The Hindutva and Nationalism does not restrict others to live peacefully in this land and practice their faith as long as they owe allegiance to this land its laws and its people as they are part of it and not to the land of their faith. The rigors of politics and the reaction to violent radicalism has created fringe elements which every Hindu Nationalist abhors. I have seen Pawan Verma innumerable times on various channels during a debate but he is unable to articulate his position freely in today`s charged political atmosphere and the Kashmir issue due to his political affiliation. It would also be interesting to see a debate between Pawan Verma and Rajeev Malhotra.
Pawan is such a beautiful orator! Brilliant to listen..
Anchor raised question about Gauri Lankesh death but not a word for killing of or deaths of RSS OR BJP or any Hindu activist or supporter??
Because Ms Shoma has no guts. Secondly she is another Gowri Lakesh in the garb
Algebra is Communist Influenced brother. Dont expect those questions.
Pavan Kumar Varma.
Thank you for being true to your self. I know now why I always listened to you on TV debates.
Pavan talks about rootless cosmopolitanism and people who have read Ramayan as comics. Shoma is definitely one of those! The way she brought in the names of Aurobindo Ghosh and Swami Vivekananda is deplorable.
Simply brilliant Pavanji. Spoken from heart-very inspirational.Ever considered leaving your Political role and starting an Ashram or an Institution for imparting Vedic knowledge. I would like to be your first batch student.This is a serious suggestion.
Shoma, Dont Compare Love Jihad with these Intellectual Discussions. Shows and displays the shallowness of your thinking. ( Read some UK newspapers You might learn reality.)
she has to...that's the agenda...need to act to the sponsors...the pay masters...
it is not adi it is aadi or beginning. why is she pronouncing all indian words with a anglicised accent.
This lady is such a fake.
We are not caught in extremes, it is your dirty head that is caught in colonial hangover.
Shoma understands the philosophy, but she has read very less on Vivekananda and Aurobindo. She would be amazed how universal their ideas were. I blame her leftist associations for her reaction of Vivekananda and Aurobindo even before knowing.
Vivekananda and Aurobindo said the same thing as Adi Shankaracharya but in modern terms and in a way much suitable to today
She read about adi shankaracharya just before discussion
@@vishIndian-u3g ...do you think she can read about shankaracharya in one book and within minutes she becomes an expert on shankaracharya??? Where do you keep this kind of stupidity???shankaracharya to know him you have to know the 108 upanishads you have to know all the books that he has written you have to know the contextual dimensions and practice and develop it in the correct intellectual and philosophical context that is needed shoma chaudhari is a flimsy intellectual when it comes to philosophy, is a propagandist and wannabe wordsmith for sure, but not a philosopher.....what does she know about Vivekananda does she know what Vivekananda says about bhakti says about Shakti and Brahmin says at about the great mother what does he say about science education art music integrity....does she know that a critic of Hinduism which was done by Michael madhusudan dutta one of the greatest poets of Bengal what's the favourite poet of Vivekananda and he defended his freedom of speech what does she know about Vivekananda she is not even an inch of Vivekananda someone like rabindranath thakur loved aurobindo and he wrote a poem dedicated to aurobindo that she know about that she is an absolutely ignorant person when it comes to anything because she is a film is a superficial intellectual in the story!!!
Shoma has never read Vivekananda or Arabinda otherwise she couldn't have said those insulting words. What a shame to have her as a host.
Brilliant book and unfortunately time constraint interview. Anyway, would love to see conversations between devdutt patanaik and Mr. Pavan... that would be brilliant philosophical, linguistic, scientific (at quantum perspective), and somewhat historical conversation... more power to ALGEBRA for at least putting this together...
She doesn't a thing about Hinduism and say that ethics doesn't have role in hiduism.what an ignorant
she is ignorant or malicious? Again berating our great philosophers like Vivekananda as being only supporters of vedanta is laughable to say the least. And Mr. Pavan seems to clearly have his own agenda in ignoring that accusation. Firstly we have several books on ethics including the Patanjali's Yoga Sutra detailing the Yama -Do's, Niyama don'ts. These self appointed interpreters of Hinduism are at best trying to act secular. Who said only dialogue is the way. Yes with civilized people, that can be the way not when there is a war. Why is why in Bhagawad Gita Sri Krishna asks Arjuna to take his weapons and Fight against Adharma!
24 dislikes are for the moderator Shoma ! she was not suitable for the discussion !
Shoma is a great facilitator with profound intelligence and humorous too. I am amzaed how she asks questions without looking at any paper nor she uses clincher. She is congenial and venerates her guests on dais. She is a gifted journalist.
Well Mr Pavan Verma, let me try to expose your prejudice..
1. According to Advaita Vedanta, only Jnanam or true knowledge of the Self is supreme.. everything else, be it Bhakti or Karma or Upasana etc comes next.
2. So though Vendata never says other philosophies and view points are wrong, it does say that they all are inferior truths.. and Advaita Vedanta is the only supreme truth.
3. Upholding 'Dharma' is the fundamental duty of every person. Even if you indulge in materialistic life, upholding 'Dharma' is primordial.
4. Even a Vedantin who has devoted his entire life to vedantic studies and contemplation is bound to live a Dharmic life.
5. Most Indian religions such as Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, etc are rooted in Dharmic path.
6. Almost all of Abhrahamic religions such as Islam, Christianity etc have no idea of Dharma and are sometimes even proponents of Adharma.
7. Now Mr Pavan Verma, you want to call yourself a 'secular' , 'tolerant' Hindu who 'respects' other religions and philosophies, and won't belittle them.
Fair enough..
But why do you belittle 'Hindutva' brigade? Why do you discard them as non Hindus? Yes, no doubt most of them are ignorant of Advaita Vedanta philosophy, but yet they're atleast followers of a Dharmic life and culture.. know? For your political gains and convenience, you are a 'secular' 'tolerant' Hindu, but yet you discard 'Hindutva'brigade? Your logic is Laughable..
Without even going to big examples, do you think bashing up a couple experiencing the emotion of love is dharmic?
Even if you say those goons are not true hindutvavaadis, THEY assume authority over hindutva and justify their adharma through the organized religion.
I think the problem is the term HINDUTVA has been appropriated by a whole lot of groups of people, some of them may be orthodox, some liberal and others in between.
So, I don't know if it's right to frown whenever someone says "Hindutva" because voices like you and I are in minority and the ignorants in majority.
BRITISH BRAINWASHED CONGRESS LEADERS NEHRU, GANDHI ETC. WITH HIDDEN AGENDA TO MAKE INDIA ADOPT SECULAR CONSTITUTION TO DESTROY INDIA AFTER INDEPENDENCE BY WEAKENING INDIA FOR HISTORY TO REPEAT. ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY ETC. ARE TRYING TO DESTROY INDIA . HINDUS ARE SUPPRESSED & MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS ARE GIVEN ENCOURGEMENT.
MUSLIMS OF INDIA HAVE BETTER FREEDOM & OPPORTUNITIES THAN MUSLIMS, HINDUS, CHRISTIANS ETC. NON MUSLIMS OF ALL ISLAMIC COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.
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The IRONY, Shankara his philosophy, Vedanta and indian spiritualistic rationalism discussed under the banner of Glenlivet :-), perfect setting.
Somebody tell the anchor there's no such thing as "anthropological god". What she wanted to say is actually "anthropomorphic god".
I am happy that the politicians are trying to articulate views of the great Adi Shankara. However, what is the point in discussing with a person like Shoma who has zero exposure to the vaidic shastras. They should have gotten a learned person and have a debate. This person could have challenged some of Pavan's infrerences. That's the way of Sanatana Dharma.
Why? Do you have a prejudice against Shoma Shaunaq wasn't Mr. Pavan Varma a IFS officer so doesn't it mean that he has seen if " Maya" too. And doesn't he say that even Adi Shankaracharya & Shiva, Krishna & Parvati have a Goddess by their side symbolizing Shakti 😂😂😂 so if Gods can have hanky spanky dealings with ladies & many in our mythological Gods do just as in Greek mythology( Helen ) or in Roman mythology so a earthly lady is just having a tete- a - tete with Mr. Parvan Varma also she us trying to learn so must not be censored, be tolerant to all kinds of people that is after all want Indian philosophy says.
@@anuradhainamdar8967 No prejudice but let's assume that one questions the intricacies of Theory of relativity with an arts major who has never sat inside a Physics class. How would you feel about his/her opinions? BTW, have you read any of Shankaracharya's work in it's original form? I mean Brahmasutra bhashyam, Vivek chudamani, Chandogya Upanishad Bhashyam, etc. His insight into these texts are not for the feeble hearted or casual reader. You need a lot of background in all four vedas to understand or challenge his angle because he cross references verses & inferences from these sources to elucidate his point. Here is a small example of how it is done: ruclips.net/video/o8-_dyeU4WY/видео.html
Also, I found it equally funny that these conversation are sponsored by "The Glenlivet". Clearly this whole rambling from both side is non-serious, without any basis & done by rank amateurs who have no business to discuss Adi Shankara's views.
@@r8rdarklord Ok, yes might be correct though you have no prejudice towards women who only object to her been offered the job of interviewing.
2 Though I am a History student till B.A. & my father had all the series of Upanisands, Puranas, Vedas, but they in Marathi.
3. I have a good aquantaince with want the all Vedas hymns says, philosophical texts says. Because of Times of India columns on thought of the day.
4.May be are well versed in Upanisands & so sorry for judging your opinion.
@@anuradhainamdar8967 I am a krama pathi in the Taittiriya Shakha of Krishna Yajurveda and consider myself as an humble student of the great Adi Shankara.
Prejudiced towards women is one thing that I am not. This is borne by the fact that the discussion between Yagyavalky & Maitreyi (his wife) in the chaturtha Brahmanam of the Brihadaranyako Upanishad on the nature of Brahman happens to be one of my favourites. I can recite those passages backward forward & backward as required for a kramapathi.
It irks me when somebody either makes light of the vidya described in Vedas or misinterprets them. Adi Shankara during his life use to say: Shruti PramanaM.
@@r8rdarklord Well, you seem to be erudite & knower of our Upanisands. I pay my humblest regards. And bow to you with respect. Namaste.
...the much need slap on the face...of the moderator...well done.. sir..best end of an conversation ever....:)) #super....
first time in your channel's history....audio is crystal clear..
She mentions that Algebra is an Arabic word but fails to mention that the theories of Algebra were brought to Bagdad by Hindu Pandits, as was the decimal system. The Arabs know they are Hindu numbers, but when they passed them on to Europe and the Europeans called them Arabic numerals... Al'Gebra
I am proud to be from a county where thousands of years ago very scientific philosophy vedanta devoloped, but dissapointed with our education system as we are never taught seriously upanishads ,vedantic philosophy,and 6 vaidic philosophies NYAYA, YOGA,VEDANTA,VAISHISHIKA,MIMANSA, VYAKARANA
Pavan being there in the politics would bring the best balance. You can't help earth being outside of earth. Same is true for hinduism
Great!! Simply great!
"Where I have come from" ... "ancient truths" maybe relevant but what lies in the future is way more important. This is for Pavan.
Pavan Verma is a great student of Hinduism where DEBATING an issue is the essence of an argument. However, if the opposing party from another religion does not believe in DEBATE, then the only way to win an argument is by the least common denominator which is FORCE.
The anchor describes Vedas to be Brahmanical while she is fool/ignorant whichever you choose, she doesn't know about Rishi Vishwamitra, one of central characters in Vedas, happens to be Kshatriya.
It was interesting to see how Shoma tried hard to extract some affirmation from Dr. Verma about the hypothesis that the trio of Vivekananda, Aurobindo Ghose and Dayananda saraswati somehow straitjacketed Hinduism and laid the foundation of a 'Hindu nationalism'. This is the much familiar line of argument of Western Indologists. She has perhaps consumed a lot of it.
The anchor Shoma is talking all the non-sense and trying to politicize the dialogue in every few minutes. How much did she understood Vivekananda and Aurovinda before commenting on them? Did she read the complete work of Swami Vivekananda before commenting on him? The famous Rabindranath Tagore (who is considered the pioneer of Bengali Renessaince and far more anti-national than today's this anchor Shoma) quoted about Swamiji that "Every Indian should study Swami Vivekananda to understand true India and there is nothing negative about him".
Adi Shankara and Glenlivet would go well together I suppose!
Shomrus
Or Somrus
Shoma anand's expression 'oh, you are getting standing ovation! ' is sooooo cute. Had yaswant sinhaji delayed for an hour more she would have reached 'sachidanand' state of mind. It is necessary to take break from 'spirits' to understand spirituality. Detoxification process followed by treatment. if talking about adi shankaracharya gets standing ovation for pavan varmaji, the whole world stands for shankaracharya's philosophy. Hinduism means universalism & connecting with the cosmos . Not just looking for 'arth' on earth but seeking 'paramaarth '. Gandhiji followed bhagavadgita which teaches inclusiveness of whole humanity.there is no heart that shuts the door when you say that u r from gandhi's land. bapu is mahatma, shankara is paramatma. Unfortunately some uneducated indians propogate that science started when apple dropped on newton's head & rest of all truths are mythology. Pavanji, as always it was a pleasure hearing your clear thoughts,expression & deeper knowledge. You bring a different dimension to civilized debate of convictions & dialogue.All evangelists shall automatically disappear if politicians protectc& uphold constitution at its full capacity wiithout playing Loksabha & Rajyasabha snake & ladder game. Thanks.
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fascinating discussion. very revealing. it is very true that Hinduism is accepted thru dialogues. not to confuse witn hinduthva. that becomes necessary to check false propaganda and disruption by others who nesgate our values. can pawan varma make Christians and muslims to discuss ,
Without discussing the origin of word Hindu, it is a preconceived notion to discuss Indian culture or metaphysical discourse under Hinduism.
Discussion on Param Poojya Adi Shankara presented by Glenlivet,
Jai Jai Shankar, Har Har Shankar!
Mr. Verma sir, i was never thought you are so knowledge bank when you use to participate in T.V. debates as some party spokesperson. great. need more elaborated lecture the conversation had between Chandaal and Sri.shankara.
Mr. verma please keep up load at least one video per day/week on youtube and enlighten us( how rajiv malhotra, N. gopalakrishnan(from kerala) are up loading . thanks for the nice interview - to Algebra &Verma
what is the book name and publisher?
Pawan Verma is basically right in his interpretation of Adi Shankracharya. IMO. He should read Guru Nanak to learn how the thought progressed and developed in the Bhakti Era.
Can you suggest a title would like very much to know more
Fascinating insight by Mr Pavan Verma, only if the anchor wud stick to that and not try to get Mr Verma s support on criticizing Hindutva.
Brilliant Person.
ALGEBRA is having conversations on HINDUISM after having GLENLIVET whisky. LOL :)
As I was considered Pawan Verma as a dirty, shrewd politician, but my opinion has changed after listening this discourse!He has very good command on Hindu philosophy!
Excellent narration! Very much impressed by Pawan Verma!
I liked the way Pavan Verma denied to comment on Swami Vivekananda in a bad light which this notorious self-identified secualr anchor tried so hard. She asked this question three times that Swamiji, Aurovinda and Dayananda were all wrong in understanding Hinduism because they also had some missionary zeals. But, Pavan verma always rebutted with the philosophical underpinning and concluded that there is no contradition between the Advaita of Shankara, Bhakti of Ramakrishna and Advaita of Vivekananda. Hope the so-called secularists will understand this at some point.
Algebra is a word derived from AL Jabbar,. Jabbar a person of Iranian? descent who compiled the mathematics known in the Indian subcontinent at the time. Did not know Algebra had some other meaning.
great , great, and great
Bertrand Russell's book 'The Scientific Outlook' thoroughly demolishes Pavan Varma's scientific harping. Read the chapter 'Science and Metaphysics' and 'Science and religion' from his book which is available as a free pdf online.
Didnt know that Pawan Verma is so knowledgeable.
Pawan Verma walked the talk. 😇
Is reading glasses on head, sign to show i am an intellect ? If thats true, il start using this in office to get more respect from my boss.
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I have read the Book by Sri.Pawan K.Verma.With respect to the Interviewer ( though one comments as “annoying” ) Firstly Sri.Pawan K.Varma is highly learned ,dressed traditionally INDIAN.
Secondly there is No necessary to be “quickly” hurrying up in her second sentence,using inappropriate words like “ Fight” with Mandala MISRA.When interviewing such learned people it would be ideal if an experienced,Sanskrit exponent,articulate in its tradition be carefully selected, Added to the interviewer,The Glenlivet .? God Save us !
The moderator's views on Swami Vivekananda and Sri Aurobindo - evident from her line of questioning - appears to be based on a superficial understanding (or a deep misunderstanding) of their works. It is important that we judge personalities by the circumstances and times they lived in, and by the purpose their work served. Both of these spiritual giants of modern India had the onerous task of awakening the Indian who was driven to despair, inertia and inferiority complex by centuries of colonization and oppression, and they chose the spiritual realm to realize that goal.
And I am not sure why Mr Verma was evasive in his response (not once but twice) to her questions in these two figures.
Why do narrow-minded moderators feel a need to cut short just when the author is getting into middle of some serious narration?? Sheer stupidity i guess.
I just finished reading the book written By Sri.Pavan K Varma. Also read and reread the works Sri Shankar Bhagavatpada every day.I am 70 years now. After reading Mr.Varma's "bashya "on the great Shankaracharya ,one can say Mr.Varma has drawn parallels between Science and Religion; further it's interrelation with quarks and God particle. He is no ordinary man.
He should not be used in political debates on television with narrow minded anchors.He should write books with more parallels with Upanishads,great saints of Bharatvarsh.I feel "Sir your image is very much lowered with those sponsors products advertised in the back drop,especially you being addressed "Pavan "by name like an ordinary man.Definately not in public."
As somebody put in the comments would like this RUclips by trimming the anchor.
So that your respect is high in our minds.
May be I will only read your books in future.
Your book Adi Shankara and your talk is a Great knowledge for our youth.
Jai kumar,Bangalore.
Good attempt by a politician to know about Adi Shankaracharya. Would be interesting to read the book written by him.
Moderator is totally dissapointing. Her long questions and their content reveal her total lack of requisites for such a task.
It would also be good if Mr.Pavan Varma write about & talk one of Ancient India's greatest women Philosophers & so debater Gargi in context of today women activist both from center, left, & ignorant Hindu Sadhavis like once militant Uma Bharati & others extremely rabid women representing BJP like Mrs. Irani & many more.
Tehelka in a new Avatar called al jazeera, sorry Algebra. LOL :)
A very good and commendable effort by Shri Pavan Varma. But before I comment further, a word about the moderator Ms. Shoma. This interaction was more suited for someone with adequate depth of knowledge and understanding, and endowed with a spirit of curiosity or enquiry. Shoma is too shallow to engage in such a discussion. Just look at how she brings in words like hindutva, love jihad etc. reflecting her misplaced sense of secular outlook. Well, she could be forgiven for her lack of knowledge and perspective, but definitely not for trying to diminish the likes of Swami Vivekananda, Shri Aurobindo or Veer Sawarkar for that matter.
A couple of points regarding Mr. Varma’s assertions. His example of two electrons far apart, one in Tokyo and the other in India, if being along the same axis would have the same direction of spin; there seems to be some confusion here. In the subject example, the axis would pass through the earth due to it’s curvature. It’s well known that any two points distinctly apart would have a common axis passing through them. Likewise for two electrons. His example may be true if the two electrons do not have intervening material between them??
My other observation is on the reference to certain advocates of Sanatan Dharma as ‘Evangelists’, which is so untrue and misrepresentative. Since the beginning, the practitioners of Sanatan Dharma have never evangelized. They have always been on the path of seeking.Evangelizing is the favorite activity of Abrahamic faiths. Pavan Varma would have done well to refer to the religion as Sanatan Dharma rather than Hinduism.
The urge to appeal to a wider cross section of the masses leads sometimes to falling into the company of unlettered moderators and even dumber audiences who clap at inanities.
Vivekananda straight jacketed Hinduism and rejected multiplicity? That news to me and I read the complete works of Vivekananda. One doesn't even need to read his complete works, just read his Chicago speech at the parliament of religions and that is enough to disprove this notion. And his master was a Kali devotee by the way. Shoma should do some more making such allegations. i'm also disappointed that Pawan didn't address this.
Some interesting points, Pawan. Always great to hear people talk about Adi Sankara... although the anchor seemed clueless and politically motivated! Will not be following or recommeding algebra channel, which is founded by people like her!!
Adi Shankaracharya ki jai!!!!!
Sounds like some good old political opportunism just like Shashi Tharoor. And ofcourse going Deepak Chopra on Vedanta, cosmos, nature of reality etc.
I agree as he does not answer to defend Swami Vivekanda and other philosophers. These philosophers never supported only Advaita. In fact Sri Shankara himself has sung in Bhakthi devotionals like Bhaja Govindam as well! Truly one path never contradicts the other it embellishes it!! These single dimension politics ridden biased philosophers who do not tell the full truth , remain silent instead of countering the untruths from moderator and do not add too much value and should be ignored. If you want to understand Hinduism, learn from Vivekananda, Pathanjali or directly from the books of Krishna, Shankara or Ramanuja or Madhva and more.
BJP is the real opportunistic, not Tharoor. I doubt they even know anything about philosophy.
Pavanji. Would be better way to address such a scholar !
What this lady even knows about love jihad. Just because no one is the victim of this Islamic jihad it doesn't mean this is myth.
The Anchor, naming her "Durbuddhi" for a moment, puts all the four great thought-leaders belonging to various multitudes of nationalist philosophy in the same leftist stereotype of hers, to defame them by accusing them of appropriating Advaita, when she herself has been doing that in a Evangelical way! Ridiculous! And why the hell, Pawan Verma didn't respond to that?
I wish they appointed a more qualified anchor than Shoma.
India at 7th century were at peak of knowledge. The Buddhist university of nalanda, vikramshila, odantipuri, jagadalla were teachings the highest knowledge to mankind from whole world and it's here that shankaracharaya learned about Buddhism and he adopted the Buddhist doctrines, philosophy , and even made Buddha as avtar of Hindu god visnhu.
If a Hindu respects Islam, Christianity, Jewish, he should also respect manusmriti.
European enlightenment was greatly influenced by indian text like Upanishads many European luminaries came in contact with Upanishads and their whole thinking pattern changed and they started questioning fixed teaching of churches.
Philosophy like advait Vedanta kept India as one otherwise how can a Bengali can relate with a Tamil but once you understand that underlying everything is one then there is no problem to stay together and not to fight.
Adi Shankaracharya Ji was from Kerala
The opening should be short and sweet. This dame is streaching it like a rubber band.
The lady interviewing appears to be more suited for political interviews. She seems to be wearing her secular political colors up her sleeve. Disgusting that politics is mixed with such a wonderful presentation of Pavan. As a student of philosophy myself for 5 years it is sickening, thanks to the lady.
No, scientists are not asking 'why cannot there be a big crunch.' Pavan Varma is saying both that the 'universe is expanding' and that a big crunch is in our future. The observational evidence has already shown that the universe is expanding and over time, the galaxies will go beyond our event horizon and our entire night sky will consist of the Local Group of Galaxies which are gravitationally bound.
Hey Hey! Finally the liberals found their New Hindu Boy in town! Hope & Wish he grows, understands people better and explain the flock on how not to demean people in the "Right" for political gains.
Btw, surprising that no one is talking about his offensive
usage of "Evangelism".
Krishna B
This is nothing. He should have said that Sanatana Dharma is the best , most liberal irrespective of all divisive parameters including homosexuality. He should have started with the definition of dharma.
Also , hinduism is incomplete without mutual respect , dignity and debates all of them which are lacking in islam and christianity. In fact these are aggressive , non redirecting cult directed at destruction if hinduism
Also , hinduism totally accepts criticizing other religions as well s accepts it's own criticism. And hinduism tells us to speak with extreme clarity and frankness and that is the rationale of speaking against christianity and islam.
hahahahahaha
truth can be offensive but then it's the truth.
Arvind ji, ur hahahaha shows your ignorance
"There is experiment going on in Harvard" doesn't add value to anything.
ALGEBRA should desist from obtaining event sponsorship from GLENLIVET; the liquor companies cannot advertise in the West for good reasons
great work
Nakul Sharma
Except for its not. He should have started with the definition of dharma. And said that , vedas never endorsed any caste system and that hinduism alwsys demand mutual respect and dignity that islam and christianity can never give. Hinduism tell us to defend against such evil expansionist forces totally disregarding of others faiths , worse killing them as per divine commandment.
This lady moderator has fixed ideas about Hinuism which according to her revolves around lynching love jihad, Dina Nath Batra, psychofants and is a political movements - going to the extent of naming Shavarkar.. She wants the speaker to leave his subjact and come around to her political aims. For her the greatest happening to rhe sheer if Hinduism was getting into Kama and his encounter with Chandal. She insists time and again that her political agenda be endorsed. That is her Algebra. Shame.
Saraswathi is not Cluster it is 'Super cluster' way different from cluster, which is smaller one
Advaitha Philosophy is the answer for all the problems in the world today.
Adi Shankaracharya foresaw this long long ago.
Please don't divide this country by using the term Hinduism or Hindutva.
It is a culture of Love.
It is not a religion.
Which country you find so many religions ?
More expressively expressed by Sri.Pavan K.Varma, in the last part of this interview.
What more can Mr. Varma say ! !
Jai kumar m.s.,Bangalore
Pavan has written 21 books.
Now Congress has invented a new religion - Secular Hinduism. LOL :)
I have read the book and it is an easy read & a product of good research. Science section, though, is just a recycle of content present in most books (by scientists & science writers) published in the past 3-4 decades on quantum physics, cosmology & parallels between modern science and eastern wisdom. Nothing special. But PV has done a good job of explaining the spiritual essence of Advaita, Shankara's brilliant, logical arrival at the nature of reality from Vedanta perspective.
Having said that, I wish PV doesn't engage in conversations with these pseudo-liberals like this lady. They are disingenuous. While she extols the Brahman principle of Hinduism's message, her real objective is to target Hindus who are finding their spirit of dharma through life & works of great sages like Aurobindo, SV etc. Criticizing the highly reactionary fringe among Hindus (there are always people within any group who give expression to the existential threats, real or imagined, they face, in the most undesirable manner) is just a door to get into the general "Hindu bashing" space.
Just as PV explains the non-dual Vedanta and great tradition of "samvaad", intellectual debates in our glorious past, he does talk about the four purusharthas, paramarthika & vyvaharika realms, and how to balance them in the right way to seek moksha. What does that mean? Even PV misses that. In the vyavaharika world, dharmics have been brutalized by extremist, predatory, expansionist, exclusivist religions from the west of Indus. There is a millennium-long history of this brutality that drove the dharmic society into survivalist mode. So, is it wrong or irrational for the descendants of these brutalized dharmic ancestors to think in terms of their survival and preservation of their way of life? I won't even question the lady & her ilk (they are sold to an irrational, self-defeating notion of secularism) but why would PV think dharmics can resolve every threat using dialogue? Why does India need army then? Let's allow every marauder to invade this land and sing "we are all one". Let's eliminate (that itself is antithetical the celebrated idea of diversity) those Hindutva "reactionaries" and allow every clever missionary & Caliphate-seeking exclusivist to destroy the very society that discovered and propagated the non-dual spiritualism. Will you be happy Pavan Varma? It is silly & naive to think that you can have dialogue with crazies who want the establish a caliphate or a global church and force everyone to obey one true God, abide by one holy book and die for one true prophet. The peaceful and compassionate Chinese Buddhist monks developed martial arts to defend against the violence of Mongol brutes. Why didn't they just prefer to have dialogue? PV should know that those who are quite passionate in defending dharma may not be well-versed in great Hindu spiritual wisdom like he does, but they know that in the vyavaharik world where multiplicity does exist and conflicts do arise in this realm, they need to confront the irrational, homogenizing forces. It is not always pretty, but needs to be done. That's why Sri Krishna gave the Gita, to wake up the philosophizing & indignant Arjuna to pick up his weapon and fight against the Kauravas.
Pavan Varma, I do respect you a lot, but in the modern, geopolitical world, a society that has a history of invasion, that continues to see #BreakingIndia forces engaged in subversive actions, one cannot expect every member of that society to just philosophize & chant "tat tvam asi" (I really wish the whole world chants it) & ignore the signs of trouble. Such a society is forced to build many layers of security to protect its way of life. Of course, "samvaad" is the best policy; but there will be people who will not engage in samvaad if they see flashing swords in the other camp. And, it will be foolish to think that this "other" doesn't exist in this land of Vedanta.
The Agenda ...the narrative...presets....the sponsorship...connects the dots...and the actors act...
Read history he adopted not just Buddhist doctrines but he also made Buddha as an avtar of visnhnu.
Shoma has to bring in hinduta and savarkar as manifestation of intellectual bigotry of what she thinks is her clever agenda to fight a certain section of people via her learned guests.it is sick to see how Mr. pavan is on a different plane of intellect and how she is ordinary and hyped journalist who is just fishing for some controvery. And that laugh, can't be anything more fake than that ...