From the Vault: The Semmerling LM4 Pistol

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
  • Steve has wanted to get his hands on a Semmerling LM4 for 40 years, and today his dream becomes reality at Rock Island Auction Co. Designed by Philip Lichtman and introduced around 1979, the Semmerling LM4 is a super-compact, manually cycled, 5-shot pistol chambered in .45 ACP. "Manually cycled" means the double-action, striker-fired LM4 is NOT an autoloader. What looks like a conventional slide is really just the barrel assembly. After you fire a shot, you have to manually push the barrel forward to eject the spent case, and when you pull it backward, it grabs the next round, chambers it, and locks the breech. This operating system presents a problem: As you pull the LM4 from a holster, you could accidentally move the barrel forward and eject the round in the chamber, leading to all sorts of unhappiness in a self-defense emergency. So there's a clever lock to prevent that, which Steve demos for us.

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  • @jonduncansakurawallknifegarden
    @jonduncansakurawallknifegarden 2 года назад +37

    The audio might be corrupted somehow. It sounds a little scratchy for some reason, but I was able to watch and listen, and still enjoyed every minute of it!!

  • @DeerHunter308
    @DeerHunter308 2 года назад +6

    When i worked at an Investment Casting Company in the 80s I had the opportunity to talk to the guy behind this gun. We supplied him with the major components for his pistol. In a half hour conversation he gave me an education on the advantages of tool steel. Those days are gone but not forgotten by me at least. In the early 80s, half our investment casting business was forearms. Within a year we had exited almost all of them, due to management being sick of their extremely slow payment of their bills.

  • @lowluv72
    @lowluv72 2 года назад +4

    Can we finally declare Ian McCollum a national treasure already?

  • @joshuabessire9169
    @joshuabessire9169 2 года назад +7

    I want to see Ian in the Brownell's vault and Caleb and Steve at the BUG match!

  • @ironmikehallowween
    @ironmikehallowween 2 года назад +2

    Kind of looks like a COP that was a four barrel 357 magnum, technically a 4 shot derringer I guess. The pistol shown is pretty cool.

  • @markpalmer6760
    @markpalmer6760 2 года назад +2

    Old school craftsmanship, what a beauty.

  • @EricDaMAJ
    @EricDaMAJ 2 года назад +3

    The “Repairman Jack” pistol.

  • @CaliforniaFly
    @CaliforniaFly 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for sharing. I think I've seen just one at a gun show in the 70's. It was really a beautiful gun that had to be admired. I didn't even ask to pick it up. I just eyeballed it. I wonder how much it will go for.

    • @bobkohl6779
      @bobkohl6779 2 года назад +3

      They're going for about 6K these days

    • @CaliforniaFly
      @CaliforniaFly 2 года назад

      @@bobkohl6779 thanks Bob.

  • @KD-lb9bg
    @KD-lb9bg 2 года назад

    Rough audio until y'all are saying goodbye, but a great show and tell of a very interesting firearm, Thanks.

  • @doughesson
    @doughesson 2 года назад

    I remember that one review mentioned that a semi automatic version was designed but the recoil was even more than the manual pump action version.

  • @thomasreilly4345
    @thomasreilly4345 2 года назад +5

    Now that was a flash from the past! They were beyond my price range back then, a K frame was barely in my budget. But the Semmerlings were built like a bank vault. Speaking of compact 45s, does anyone remember the Star PD? Or Detonics?

    • @bobkohl6779
      @bobkohl6779 2 года назад +3

      Yes I remember both. Detonics solved the chop job problems. Stars weren't that great

    • @thomasreilly4345
      @thomasreilly4345 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, but for a long time the Star was all that was available for a small .45 Auto.

    • @bobkohl6779
      @bobkohl6779 2 года назад +3

      @@thomasreilly4345 that was what the Semeling solved if not for the Detonics.

    • @thomasreilly4345
      @thomasreilly4345 2 года назад +1

      Yes. That it did, that it did.

  • @tlgeorge59
    @tlgeorge59 2 года назад +2

    A small pump action pistol! Cool.

  • @bobkohl6779
    @bobkohl6779 2 года назад +1

    Mike Harries had one, I shot it twice. They are brutal to shoot. But Mike shot an IPSC match with it.

  • @scenicdriveways6708
    @scenicdriveways6708 2 года назад +2

    Cool boomstick, I love it!
    I owned an AMT Backup .45acp, but I hated it. It had a terrible trigger.
    JT

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 2 года назад +3

    They broke out the high-fidelity mic for ol Steve on this one.

  • @olhemi1
    @olhemi1 2 года назад

    Nice, I didn't know anyone made them, thanks for sharing 🙂👍☕

  • @natejackson4791
    @natejackson4791 2 года назад +1

    I enjoy seeing and collecting these type pieces.

  • @bernardomontell873
    @bernardomontell873 2 года назад +1

    I would love to have one, did not know they existed till I started reading Repairman Jack novels.
    Smallest 45 ACP back in those days.

    • @bobkohl6779
      @bobkohl6779 2 года назад +1

      Brutal to shoot. Need practice cycling the action

    • @bernardomontell873
      @bernardomontell873 2 года назад

      @@bobkohl6779 not surprised. The little thing does not have the mass to help with the recoil. But certainly looks cool.
      Do you have/had one?
      I was looking for one for a while but found that it is out of my financial reach 😀

    • @bobkohl6779
      @bobkohl6779 2 года назад

      @@bernardomontell873 Mike Harries owned it and I know the current owner. Would I have one? No. No reason to at 6,000 a pop

    • @bernardomontell873
      @bernardomontell873 2 года назад

      @@bobkohl6779 yeah, at $6,000 is kind of an expensive toy. 😳

  • @82lowe36id
    @82lowe36id 2 года назад +1

    Very cool. Thanks for the video.

  • @crabbyturtle1594
    @crabbyturtle1594 2 года назад +1

    So unique. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Friedbrain11
    @Friedbrain11 2 года назад +2

    Cool idea. I like it. A 22 long rifle version would have been great.

  • @johnpetry2541
    @johnpetry2541 2 года назад

    Back in my early NY LEO days, I knew two guys who wore these working undercover. But not for long. Most UCs switched to PPKs and later to Rohrbaughs.

  • @SailfishSoundSystem
    @SailfishSoundSystem 2 года назад +1

    S7 tool steel is used for jackhammer bits. Extremely shock resistant.

    • @oldscratch3535
      @oldscratch3535 2 года назад +1

      Its a common steel used in all kinds of tools and firearms. Most of your good quality allen wrenches are S7, as well as chisels, punches, dies, etc.
      I work for a company that uses S7 for AR-10 extractors. Its easy to machine under the right circumstances, but b/c its air-hardening, if the tool rubs or the material gets too hot then it can alter the hardness and become a nightmare to deal with. We have tons of oil based cutting fluid blasting the part at all times as well as high pressure coolant lines/through tool coolant for things like parting off and boring. The oil circulates through a radiator system to cool it down before returning to the machine.

    • @SailfishSoundSystem
      @SailfishSoundSystem 2 года назад

      @@oldscratch3535 I figure S7 would be ideal for an extractor.

  • @S1L3NTG4M3R
    @S1L3NTG4M3R 2 года назад

    THANKS

  • @paulbervid1610
    @paulbervid1610 2 года назад

    Great video

  • @ronthompson2366
    @ronthompson2366 2 года назад

    Enjoy watching your channel. So here's a suggestion... a Rifle Build Challenge..to ALL THE GUNSMITH SCHOOLS. One from a student and one from a instructor. Brownells has employees who have graduated from several of the schools. So you will be the judge (s). You can fine tune the rules and guidelines. But it should be a wooden stock America classic or old English or Weatherby style... bolt action. It can 1 to 1 or free floating.. bedded and pillared... use say a #4 or #3 contour barrel.. blued not stainless steel... and go from there. Timeline TBD. You can use the channel to oversee the build. Announcement of the winner can be done during the annual Brownells job expo... again Brownells can layout the rules and guidelines. You could also do a custom pistol or revolver build instead or in addition.
    The purpose... to highlight the variety of GUNSMITH SCHOOLS.. and the relationship between Brownells and the schools. Prize TBD by Brownells. All submissions must be documented and submitted with the documentation plus completed 100 percent at the school.
    Just a suggestion...but it would be a great opportunity for the schools and the relationship with the schools and Brownells. Plus just bring back a interest in the classic beauty of an actual firearm build.

  • @bobbioook5612
    @bobbioook5612 2 года назад

    Cool thanks 😊

  • @YellowHammer26
    @YellowHammer26 2 года назад

    👍👍very unique

  • @davidpavely4539
    @davidpavely4539 2 года назад

    My dad was a master machinist

  • @paleoph6168
    @paleoph6168 Год назад

    I remember a woman who shares the same name with this pistol. She tried kill a big guy (named Bean, I think) with the said pistol, only to die from an explosion...
    (OVA reference)

  • @little_billy
    @little_billy 2 года назад

    You gonna bring the coffee guy back? Give him another chance. I know he is family. Looks kinda like you.

  • @rgr3427
    @rgr3427 2 года назад

    Now thats what I call rec room !

  • @Txchickensnake
    @Txchickensnake 2 года назад

    Repairmen Jack's carry!

  • @maxkurland6413
    @maxkurland6413 2 года назад

    I was just looking these things up :) What a coincidence. Apparently, American Derringer owns the rights to make these now, but according to the CEO Elizabeth Saunders, they are currently not in production as of August 2022 based upon a email exchange I had with her.

    • @maxkurland6413
      @maxkurland6413 2 года назад +1

      As of August 19th, a new American Derringer Semmerling LM5 in 25ACP will be $755 plus shipping “if and when we get back to (making) them”- Elizabeth Saunders, CEO of American Derringer

  • @albertptran
    @albertptran Год назад

    Love rare guns

  • @frankynodots
    @frankynodots 2 года назад

    How much are they expecting to get for this specimen?

  • @chuckwoodssr316
    @chuckwoodssr316 2 года назад

    What hand gun shells will work in a 410 wingmaster

  • @noonzeeb
    @noonzeeb 2 года назад

    Can you pull a winchester model 71 .348 from the vault ?

  • @User-cc6cq
    @User-cc6cq 2 года назад

    Knew a guy who had one...

  • @jsmith498
    @jsmith498 Месяц назад

    Why? Just why??

  • @elifoust7664
    @elifoust7664 2 года назад

    Police back up

  • @AndyCigars
    @AndyCigars 2 года назад

    Audio sounds grainy and raspy on this one...maybe your sound dude needs a new mic.

  • @cigarettesmokingman9471
    @cigarettesmokingman9471 2 года назад

    Really makes no sense to me. Id rather have ANYTHING (excluding only rimfire ammo and only because of its unreliability) that can fire more than once without racking the slide (barrel) each time. I see the art, but not the reality.

  • @johnkennedy1506
    @johnkennedy1506 2 года назад +2

    That’s not a Glock.

    • @johnh4957
      @johnh4957 2 года назад +2

      will it take Glock mags?(joking)

  • @Osprey78
    @Osprey78 2 года назад

    Interesting, but no thanks.