@@R32R38 Nope, shitty action design coupled with an overloaded SLAP round. High pressure gas from a case head separation blew the breech cap directly into the shooters face.
@@nativejuicevapors That will usually never grenade the action or blow the bolt or breech plug into your face but it does turn the barrel into a banana as most bore obstructions obviously do. Pressures at the muzzle of high intensity cartridges are only about 10,000 psi.
This is my assessment also. You get what you pay for. When he returned to the range and fired a .50 cal what did he use??? It wasn’t that slap together pipe bomb.
Reloading is a pastime just waiting to prove the old adage about familiarity breeding contempt. Best practices like only having one can of powder on the bench at one time exist for a reason. It hurts a lot less to learn from someone else's lesson. Thanks Randy.
Absolutely, My wife and children occasionally invade my reloading room. I just make a note where I am at and stop and come back to it later. No need to get myself hurt if the family just needs some attention. We go upstairs and watch a movie then I come back to what I was doing when they all go to bed.
@@coldandaloof7166 My kids occasionally come in and I grab them a chair and carry on. My wife isn’t interested at all in reloading but the kids have both gone through their brief interested phases. I do my best to break each step down for them so they know what to do and why so if they ever want to shoot and load they already have at least a basic understanding of what blanks need filling.
Great video. I had an uncle that was a reloading “guru”. He use say that no matter what, loads should always start at the minimum and always stay a half grain below max. No matter what safety is paramount!
There are differences in lots i had some n570 I shot 2gr over max with one lot and bang on the max with the next lot same powder ... same speed. And I’m still shooting about 100fps slower Then others when they start Seeing pressure signs so I’m save altho If I go by the book It seems at Max ...
That theory for a half grain below max won't work with some lite .38 loads with flake powder. Some of these loads the minimum and maximum have a spread of 0.5 or less.
I had an interesting thing happen. On one of my 458 win mag loads, everything was fine, the cartridge loaded fine in the breech, when I pulled the trigger, click. I thought maybe it was just a misfire, so I opened the bolt, a little smoke came out and H335 powder spilling everywhere, on the bench on the bolt and in the magazine. The bullet had actually moved into the barrel landings and was stuck there. So, the primer detonated, the powder did not burn, and the primer detonation was enough to send the bullet. I easily removed the bullet with a wooden dowel. Brand new lb of H335. Never opened. My point, if this happens, STOP! Put your rifle away. DO NOT shove another cartridge in the chamber.
Man that’s scary. I had a experience with my 458 win mag as well. Somewhere along the line. 350 grain bullets got dumped on a 300 grain box. Torched the first one off and had to beat the action open. I got a case with a gorgeous imprint of a Mauser bolt face now. Keep it there as a reminder to check everything from now on.
I’m 72and have been shooting reloading for 52 yrs. I’ve seen four blown firearms all caused by squib loads or obstructions in the barrel. I always check my barrel before firing. When loading or shooting I always tell,people . If it doesn’t smell right hear right look right feel right it probably isn’t right. I once had a small patch come off the jag and remain in the barrel, l noticed something was wrong prior to a shoot as I always checked the barrel.
It always interests me when you mention Bill Prator. I grew up best friends with his nephew Will Prator. My father went to gun smith school in Trinidad where Bill taught. I own a 7mm Mauser that my father built in that class. He and Bill made the barrel for it. It brings back memories of my youth.
Excellent video. Please keep them coming. As an inpatient RN, from time to time I had to undergo training for things I already knew. Sometimes, I realized I really needed that refresher. Same with reloading. In both fields, mistakes can be very costly. Once again, thanks, and God bless.
Thanks Randy for the good vid & advice . Let me give you another horror story . In 1964 my brother had a 30 Swiss Army Rifle , strait jerk bolt, he could shoot it so fast it almost sounded like an auto , problem was ammo supplies were drying up, so he decided to to have it rechambered , to 308 ,took it to a supposed gun smith & asked him if he could do such , answer was yes . Now brother was & is a very accomplished machinist , he would have taken it to the shop where he worked & did it himself, but of course his boss would have been very displeased with him doing a G-job especially on a gun ! Now he discussed with this Smith about the job and told him to make the sleeve X” oversize freeze it in nitrogen & install , which the man agreed he would do. When brother got the gun back & fired it the sleeve slide back , now for #2 mistake, he took it to work , drilled the side of the receiver , installed a set screw , next shot the receiver split , & the gasses blew the 2 middle fingers of his left hand, + broke most every bone in the hand ! When he was able to return to work, he took it in , used the industrial hack saw, cut it up & found that the sleeve was made small & had a tapper, so when he added the set screw it crowded sideways & gasses came back the side & split the receiver. So since then he has no cupped palm, but kind of flat with 2 fingers & a thumb! Because he had altered the job he received NO compensation!
Again great advice. One cannot be to careful. I’ll share one of mine where recently I came close to a barrel obstruction situation. I had just put a new Leupold scope on one of my rifles. Typically I I’ll use a laser bore sight at home to get it close before heading to the range. But this time I laser sighted it at the range at 25 yards and then moved to 100 to shoot. I have a habit of pulling my bolt and checking for any obstruction before shooting. But this time I loaded around and was about to squeeze the trigger. I stopped, thought I better follow my practice. Laser sight was still in the bore. I was a second from running a great rifle and new scope. Not to mention my health. Developer safe habitats and follow them.
That would be a sick feeling for sure Good Lesson. I think nothing should ever be inserted in the barrel at the range to risky that something like this could happen
About a year ago, a friend of mine bought reloads from some guy on the internet. He just wanted the primed cases. He pulled the 200 bullets and dumped the powder and saved the bullets. He had no use for the powder but knowing how hard to find/expensive it was he asked if I wanted it. It was a lot of powder as it came from 200 .300WM rounds. I told him to just get rid of it. Yes, it was a lot of powder to dump but although it was recorded as IMR4350...he never saw it come out of the can. What if it was mis labeled and was something else but then loaded as the IMR4350? Not worth the chance....luckily he agreed and dumped it.
I bought a 7mm remington magnum model 700 from a local gun shop. took it to the range and fired it once. the bottle neck front of the case blew off and nothing tearable happened. I took it back and it was sent to a gun smith school. someone had rechambered the barrel for a longer cartridge but not remarked the barrel. the gun smith school put a brand new remington barrel on it and remounted the muzzle brake. the gun shoots really nice now. the gun store was able to resell the now properly marked barrel to someone else. I was lucky. I put a timeny after market trigger in the gun to prevent the dangerous problem with the factory safety.
Nothing but 100% agreement! I'll never know all that you know about firearms, but what I do know, I know with confidence. From a young age I was taught that hand loading is a dangerous business. That a clear and serious mind be used in doing it. I know a fairly new guy from our range. He was working up a handload and decided to make some substitutions. He used a broad spectrum of powder weights when working up his hand load. He brought his loads to the range and shot his lighter load first and the round squibbed but he didn't know it. When he stepped up with his next shot he blew that rifle up and I was there. Thank God he wasn't injured. Read from an established set of hand load books and pay attention and don't stray from the path. Because one day you'll go too far in your compromises and it could cost you a lot more than money. I love all your videos sir! Thank you!
I know I commented yesterday, but I am hoping after watching some of your older videos, 3-4 yrs ago, hoping that you may have apprenticed some of our younger gunsmith’s, you have so much talent, knowledge to pass along. Blessings you and yours.
I met a fella on the range one day with a shiny new contender in 44 mag, just like the one I was shooting. This fella claimed he liked to load his hot. Give em a little extra. I decided it was time to go to the rifle lanes. But not before he blew his new contender apart. I was not injured, he got a bloody hand. Remember folks, you could very easily injure or kill a bystander.
I have been reloading ammo for for 53 year . Never had a blow up yet. Came close. A overload with a 6mm Remington Ackley improved on a Remington 700. Primer blew and part of the case head . Hot a face full of gas . No injury but scared the heck out of me. Used a rubber mallet to hammer the bolt open . I was shooting 5 shot groups 5th round Blew . Using a load with Winchester 760 ball powder and a 70gr. Sierra bullet . Don't remember the powder charge but all weighed out . The previous 4 cases showed no cratered primer but flatting around edge of primers but not bad añd no ejected marks on case head or difficult extraction. Never trusted slower burning ball powder again even though that may not have been the problem.
A privilege to hear from you sir. I see this was a recently published episode, and one which will be invaluable to shooters who know what they're doing, and the novice of today's culture. It has been a few minutes. Regarding 'unsupported case'. Maybe there was too much reliance on lathes which do all of the work within the 21st century C&C machining process.
In regards to powder measures, same with electronic powder measures. In the RCBS measure, if you don't tip it sideways when emptying it can leave powder in the hopper area where it intersects the trickle tube. You also need to tip it forward to empty the trickle tube.
I always rely on current published data and work up loads with attention to detail. I never want to see "that Light" you speak of. Thank you for your wisdom and sharing these experiences. It means a lot. Stay well and God Bless.
Randy , you and Mrs. Selby are God sends and you two do phenomenal job !!! I also love the depiction of Jesus on the crucifix that appears in many of your videos ! Thank you both , you’re awesome !!!!!
I saw a mini 14 that someone fired a 30 carbine round in . That was a ruined rifle. The other one was a friend who borrowed his dad's 7mm mag against orders. He put the barrel into the snow and didn't think about it. It ws on display at a local gunshop for years as it looked like a cartoon barrel explosion. 4 equal sections peeled back in a curl half the length of the barrel. 😮. I continue to ask internet people where did they get their information. ALWAYS READ YOUR MANUAL .THE WHOLE THING. Thanks again for your sage advice.
When I started reloading there were about 12 powders to chose from. A look at the burn rate chart shows 163 choices. There always seems to some “miracle powder of the month” . Temperature insensitive, low flash, even cleans the bore for you , high velocity per caliber , a real brew of chemicals. Anyways I just want to point out with all the powder choices out there and colour coded cans allot of the cans appear similar. Make sure you check the numbers before loading and only have one can open on the bench. When I started loading powder was $2.00/lb.
@@Jeff_Seely Yes; hand loading requires your undivided attention. Don’t get distracted ,pay attention to what you do and set in place checks and balances. Get yourself a reloading manual and read it many times. There’s a lot of misinformation on the internet. Some of it is laughable some is deadly. I have a whole library of manuals collected over 51 years. No internet in those days. Subscribe to Handloader magazine. Enjoy.
I do not subscribe to Handloader Magazine but I will give it a serious look. These posts are all very important to the guy getting in to reloading. Especially what you said, all of it. 50 years of reloading is a long long time. I shoot skeet with a couple of guys that have similar time and I have learned a lot from them! Take care
Also, new rounds, like prc, have hard shoulder angles for easy measuring during reloading. No fancy curved shoulders .interesting to think why it was that so many old school cartiridges have straight walls. Easy to machine. Easy to reload. Easy to prevent kaboom.
Great to hear you talk mate! I re load for hunting I load all my guns 1 grain above minimum less recoil more accurate and longer service life of my gun! I hunt so I can shoot from 50 to 200 mentors max depending on what gun I'm using
Most modern powders are designed to burn the most efficiently at max pressure. My father mistakenly believed as you do. Your guns can shoot better by upping the charge toward the top end. That's the reality. Talk to the manufacturers of smokeless powder. They will tell you.
This topic is important. Lot of hot rodders out there who will load until it just about bursts the action and bolt has to be beat open with a mallet. I start at start and work up until I get acceptable and reliable accuracy.
I'm a little surprised I've never had any catastrophes while hand loading. I'm very careful, but when I started I definitely slacked occasionally. Only one really near miss. Had a 9mm squib. Didn't notice (amateur) and racked a new round. Lucky for me it was lodged maybe 1/16" away from letting me chamber, or I would have yanked another.
Yes. Good advice. Less the barrel obstructions have experienced all the other scenarios or similar. you speak of. Fortunately caught them before it became an issue. Check twice and check it again is my 2 cents.
I always take the bolt out of my rifles before I do any shooting whatsoever and look down the bore to make damn sure it's clean and empty . Can't be too careful with these rifles.
I also like to do the same, to make sure there's nothing in the bore. When I prep guns for hunting, I will check for clear barrel and then put some electrical tape over the muzzle.
Regarding pulling down ammo, I have found that with heavily compressed loads, some of the powder will stick to the underside of the shoulder and can only be removed with a bent paperclip or a hex wrench with part of the short side ground off.
Certain powders like cfe 223 are extremely "sticky" with static electricity. I've seen it stick to the inside of my powder hopper like crazy. I finally got an electronics anti-static strap and ground the hopper and trickly tube of my measure and the problem went away.
Well Sir we have yet one more real world problem and I am almost key word being almost guilty of it and that's the availability of components or lack there of and substituting one for a norther Ie. magnum primers for regular primers, trying to match burn rates of powders that are not listed in the manual for a particular load to find a substitute for a powder I could not get. It was then that the light came on for me and decided to put every thing away before The big light comes on. Through your channel i will keep learning thank you
great advise! especially concerning reloading information. I have frequently come across guys talking about making binary loads.....and I cringe every time I read them. if it's not in a manual, I don't load it. thank you for another great video.
Powder sticking in the case is so common and some powders are very dense so what looks like a little can be a lot. Especially ball powders used in 223/5.56 and 308/7.62 NATO, for some reason they love to stick and you might have a grain or 3 stuck in the case and you won’t have any reliable way of knowing how much is stuck in that case without getting it all out. Also powder measures are largely if not exclusively made of plastic, and that builds static potential which causes static cling to effect the powder, this leads to a phenomenon called bridging, where one charge will throw a light drop and another a heavy drop. With plastic wiping with dryer sheets is the recommended method of mitigation and frequent spot checking charges by weighing them. Also visually inspect every case before seating bullets, so you have a final check and while some powders are so dense a full grain isn’t always visually evident many will give at least some clue.
Randy, I agree 99% of everything you say. Just haven't found the other 1% yet! :) Appreciate all you share. I've also been in this business for many decades myself. Would love to shake your hand and buy a cup of coffee. Bucket list thing I guess.
I would like to see a video on safety concerning tempature Sensativity with various types of powder. I have loaded ammunition that had zero pressure sighns and ran fine until it sat in the sun in the dessert. That powder was sensitive enough to being set in the sun that it blew primers.
@@NickFrom1228 IMR 8133 Enduron which is supposed to be temperature insensitive. I have never seen such a violent spike in pressure from temperature. Loads that exhibit no pressure signs, no flattened primers, no sticky bolt, no ejector marks nothing at 60 degrees with two different loads for two seperate rifles. Took the same loads to the dessert and had the ammunition sitting in the sun when it was probably 95 degrees. That temperature difference alone took those loads from no pressure issue to dangerously high pressure. I have loaded for a while and I was aware of this possibility which is why I deliberately choose powders that are supposed to be less sensitive to this type of situation. I will have to make a video and show the cases. After blowing a few primers I went out the next day when it was overcast and 60 degrees same loads not a single issue.
I've made my share of mistakes, luckily never anything that damaged any rifles or myself. Had a pet load in my remington 700 in 270 win. 60 grains of RL 19 would push 130gr hornady bullets at 3225 fps, and would keep 5 shots in 3/4 of an inch as long as I didn't let the barrel get too hot. However I only ever shot it in winter, while hunting. I fired a round once on a warm summer day, and pierced the primer. Bolt was excessively hard to lift. I immediately unloaded the rifle, and when I went home I pulled all the bullets. Not worth the risk. I have a new load with 140gr hornady bullets and imr 4831. Shoots 3050 fps and no issues on even the warmest summer days.
One great way to avoid negligence in hand loading is to scrupulously keep accurate records. Write down what you intend to do before you do it. This is the "mother may I" approach. After you complete each step check it off. Make sure the completed rounds are properly labeled. This way you are sure to keep proper records. This avoids mistakes such as using the wrong powder. With proper record keeping negligence can be caught before the accident happens.
As an old (as in retired) Field Artilleryman, I have a great respect for things that go boom. I forget how I did it, but managed to catch a major overcharge of H110 in 45 Colt Ruger loads when I was putting together my first Ruger loads. I hate to think what those 34 grain (IIRC) loads would do to a good Blackhawk.
They probably would have been fine. As long as the case didn't bulge from powder compression. I've used lots of hot H110 loads in straight cases. Once the case is full, the pressure doesn't climb substantially when you compress more powder in there. I am not recommending it, but I've been there and done that. Still shoot a few of those loads, including a 235 grain flat nosed cast bullet in a 357 Mag over 12 grains of H110. Again, not recommending it, but it's safe in my gun, and with it I shot through a 1500 lb moose.
Everyone should watch this video periodically, no matter what the experience is. People sometimes are ignorant or like @LB mentioned, get complacent. I check every load in several manuals as well as Quickload for pressure estimates. I take my Labradar and work up to the highest load charge in small increments, always looking for signs of pressure as well as measuring with a micrometer and calipers on the case head once I get to the top of the ladder to look for abnormal growth in relation to my chamber (I like to do new load development with new brass for this reason and then repeat the test with fireformed brass). I do this even though I never get close to exceeding theoretical pressure calculations or exceeding maximum published loads by any sort of large margin. I do this when I change primers or primer lot or powder lot. I have a modern action that can withstand a lot more pressure than I’m giving but its all fun and games till you get shrapnel in your face or at best destroy a barrel or action. I would skimp on safety glasses - not anymore, ever. Regardless, complacency does set in - so watching this and stuff like Kentucky Ballistics getting blown up gets me right in line again.
Hopefully you have just saved some people from a nasty surprise..... I've only been reloading for about 30 years, and usually stick to the manuals. Even then I usually work up, watching the Chronogrpaph for those sudden velocity jumps that say "whoa....back off!".......So far have avoided "the big light goin' off" :-D
I completely screwed up once loading a Carl Gustaf 6.5 Swede using 4198 powder instead of 4350, 43.0gr load. I’m not a rookie, been hand loading for 50+ years. I wound up with a load that created 101,116 psi instead of 49,115. I wound up with 7 pieces of metal in my left eye, two are too deep to remove. Completely wrecked the action. It blew out the bottom of the mag well, broke the stock, sheared off a lug. My fault totally but in my defense the color of the bottles are almost the same. Heck of it is, I didn’t load 4198 in anything for a long time. Use 4350 a lot. I have no idea how I didn’t see the difference but I didn’t. Bottom line, 4198 is in a completely different place now and I triple check my powder.
At a ranges in my area I know of two people killed. One was a blow up, one was a result of "Tuning" a handgun. The man that was killed by a blowup was using a Lee Navy (If I remember it right) and was hit in the head with a piece of the receiver ring. This was the coroners report. Obviously the steel was heat treated too hard and it may have been reloading involved too. I get laughed at because I always refused to work on '03 Springfields. I remember an auction in Canada where a guy had a large pile of '03s AND 1917 Enfields for parts. They all had cracked receivers. I was a little leery of using WWI Mauser actions for anything hot. The thing that always amazed me about people was they knew something was wrong or had changed and they just keep shooting it!
Had a Remington 700 come in the shop in .308, shoulder had a chunk missing in the chamber no lug set back from inspection headspaced fine it was the weirdest thing I have ever seen.He brought it in when he noticed his brass had a contoured bulge on the shoulder.
I would give a good guess that the problem that you mentioned was from when the steel was made that the billet end wasn’t cropped off and left voids in the steel structure . Or it was from a hurried manufacturing reeming process ,
I was reloading 25/05 rounds mildly I thought? Went for a hunt with some rounds in my pocket. Checked If any rounds in my pocket had fallen out. Oops, yes rounds still, there but also gunpowder also there? About 4 rounds in my pocket, but the primers 2 had fallen out and the powder also. Primers only fall out if the shell casing head had expanded from overcharge. Ooops straight home and that batch mic'd and unloaded and casings thrown out. So using a micrometer when loading trials is very important. Lucky I never saw a flash or rounds stuck in the chamber.
I'm working up loads at the moment. By measuring case heads is .001'' expansion a stop singn ? . Im working up of .1 grains over 10 cartridges at a time .
Kind Sir, I bought a 350 Legend with a 20" stainless steel barrel in a AR15 body. In my STW my gun builder used Vehitavuoeri N165 powder. It's a slower burning powder and might not be the hot ticket for a gas charged firearm? This is a very new caliber with straight wall shell and Vehitavuoeri doesn't have any guidelines to follow. Is there a comparable powder that I can start at It's low end and develop up to the most premium results? I truly appreciate any information that you can provide. God bless you and your wife. Eric Dailey
The Mark 5 weatherby action would not blow and probably the barrel would not have either. Roy tested his actions to 200,000 PSI. He claimed to cram a 220 gr. bullet in the throat and chamber a 220 gr. Factory ammo behind it shooting both bullets out the barrel. The action was taken apart and miked. The receiver only expanded 1/1000. Tremendous strength.
intresting to listen to your experiences😊 I'm reloading all evrything i shoot,rifle and handgun. To be safe, you have to know what you are doing,that is essential. Keep up the good work 👍 Really like your videos 😊
I was lucky. Had a bore sighter in the muzzle end of a 22 magnum. The instructions said don't forget to take it out before firing about 500 times. What did I do, yes I did. About 4 inches from the muzzle end inside the barrel it left the image looking like a wedding band pushed into the barrel all the way around. I was lucky.
I would love for you to do a video on field shooting conditions. For example when hunting do you normally shoot off of your pack or take a bipod or what is your typical method?
I use any method of rest at hand, never a bipod as the accuracy goes down with them, no matter what. I use my back pack, rocks, knees, branches [sturdy ones] etc. I'll take it into consideration. Thanks for watching.
All very good information however I have to ask……. How the heck does a guy leave a cleaning rod in there rifle. I mean seriously when I clean my firearms I see it completely though. I fully function test that firearm and clean my rods then put all away. The only way I can see a cleaning rod being left in a rifle is if you are half ass cleaning your weapons. Wow the last scenario applies to me personally. I picked up about 80 308 Winchester cartridges of unknown history. Bottom line is I plan to pull down these cases I’ll definitely be checking them with a flashlight. That was some VERY GOOD information.
Couple months ago I learned obstructions are the most common reason for blowing up guns(I thought hot loads), same article cleaning rods were the most common obstruction. Told my buddy who is also a big gun guy and hunter. He was a incredulous as I was. "What you mean dummies leave cleaning rods in rifles"
Hey Randy, big fan incredible knowledge base. Btw if you happen to slide down my chimney this Christmas, could you bring one of your rifles chambered in 28 Nosler.
Most people can't shoot game consistently and ethically at the ranges achievable with a 7mm RM or 7mm PRC. The high bc bullets are really of no consequence for most hunters. IMHO. But nevertheless they are fun to play with for target shooting.
That video of Kentucky Ballistics and his
50 BMG is quite the horror show.
Keep them coming Randy. Thanks.
As far as I know the reason for that incident is still unknown. Questionable old ammo, maybe barrel residue from the sabots, possibly something else.
@@R32R38 Nope, shitty action design coupled with an overloaded SLAP round. High pressure gas from a case head separation blew the breech cap directly into the shooters face.
@@jb-xc4oh nope he used a sabot bullet with a muzzle break that’s a huge no no
@@nativejuicevapors That will usually never grenade the action or blow the bolt or breech plug into your face but it does turn the barrel into a banana as most bore obstructions obviously do. Pressures at the muzzle of high intensity cartridges are only about 10,000 psi.
This is my assessment also. You get what you pay for. When he returned to the range and fired a .50 cal what did he use??? It wasn’t that slap together pipe bomb.
Reloading is a pastime just waiting to prove the old adage about familiarity breeding contempt. Best practices like only having one can of powder on the bench at one time exist for a reason. It hurts a lot less to learn from someone else's lesson. Thanks Randy.
Boy you said it!
I’m way too disorganized to manage just 1 can on the bench, but I do double and triple check what’s in the powder measure
Thank you, thats eye-opening! My take-away, if you cant pay complete attention, its not the day to reload.
The wise readers take away what you took away. No distractions and a serious, clear mind while hand loading
Absolutely, My wife and children occasionally invade my reloading room. I just make a note where I am at and stop and come back to it later. No need to get myself hurt if the family just needs some attention. We go upstairs and watch a movie then I come back to what I was doing when they all go to bed.
@@coldandaloof7166 My kids occasionally come in and I grab them a chair and carry on. My wife isn’t interested at all in reloading but the kids have both gone through their brief interested phases. I do my best to break each step down for them so they know what to do and why so if they ever want to shoot and load they already have at least a basic understanding of what blanks need filling.
Great video. I had an uncle that was a reloading “guru”. He use say that no matter what, loads should always start at the minimum and always stay a half grain below max. No matter what safety is paramount!
30% is an engineering standard. Fill em up. Just check for pressure issues
There are differences in lots i had some n570 I shot 2gr over max with one lot and bang on the max with the next lot same powder ... same speed. And I’m still shooting about 100fps slower Then others when they start Seeing pressure signs so I’m save altho If I go by the book It seems at Max ...
That theory for a half grain below max won't work with some lite .38 loads with flake powder. Some of these loads the minimum and maximum have a spread of 0.5 or less.
@@jasonweishaupt1828 I’m speaking strictly to hunting rifle loads since that’s the context of his videos.
@@norseman5041 Ok
I had an interesting thing happen. On one of my 458 win mag loads, everything was fine, the cartridge loaded fine in the breech, when I pulled the trigger, click. I thought maybe it was just a misfire, so I opened the bolt, a little smoke came out and H335 powder spilling everywhere, on the bench on the bolt and in the magazine. The bullet had actually moved into the barrel landings and was stuck there. So, the primer detonated, the powder did not burn, and the primer detonation was enough to send the bullet. I easily removed the bullet with a wooden dowel. Brand new lb of H335. Never opened. My point, if this happens, STOP! Put your rifle away. DO NOT shove another cartridge in the chamber.
Man that’s scary. I had a experience with my 458 win mag as well. Somewhere along the line. 350 grain bullets got dumped on a 300 grain box. Torched the first one off and had to beat the action open. I got a case with a gorgeous imprint of a Mauser bolt face now. Keep it there as a reminder to check everything from now on.
I’m 72and have been shooting reloading for 52 yrs. I’ve seen four blown firearms all caused by squib loads or obstructions in the barrel. I always check my barrel before firing. When loading or shooting I always tell,people . If it doesn’t smell right hear right look right feel right it probably isn’t right. I once had a small patch come off the jag and remain in the barrel, l noticed something was wrong prior to a shoot as I always checked the barrel.
I just posted something that might interest you about squib rounds. Have a look at the top of this video. And you are 100% right, in my book!
Thank you for this...this is definitely a problem with new loaders, chasing velocity..
It always interests me when you mention Bill Prator. I grew up best friends with his nephew Will Prator. My father went to gun smith school in Trinidad where Bill taught. I own a 7mm Mauser that my father built in that class. He and Bill made the barrel for it. It brings back memories of my youth.
Why was he in Trinidad?
That does go back! You have a treasure. I learned so much from Bill Prator.
Excellent video. Please keep them coming. As an inpatient RN, from time to time I had to undergo training for things I already knew. Sometimes, I realized I really needed that refresher. Same with reloading. In both fields, mistakes can be very costly. Once again, thanks, and God bless.
Thanks Randy for the good vid & advice . Let me give you another horror story . In 1964 my brother had a 30 Swiss Army Rifle , strait jerk bolt, he could shoot it so fast it almost sounded like an auto , problem was ammo supplies were drying up, so he decided to to have it rechambered , to 308 ,took it to a supposed gun smith & asked him if he could do such , answer was yes . Now brother was & is a very accomplished machinist , he would have taken it to the shop where he worked & did it himself, but of course his boss would have been very displeased with him doing a G-job especially on a gun ! Now he discussed with this Smith about the job and told him to make the sleeve X” oversize freeze it in nitrogen & install , which the man agreed he would do. When brother got the gun back & fired it the sleeve slide back , now for #2 mistake, he took it to work , drilled the side of the receiver , installed a set screw , next shot the receiver split , & the gasses blew the 2 middle fingers of his left hand, + broke most every bone in the hand ! When he was able to return to work, he took it in , used the industrial hack saw, cut it up & found that the sleeve was made small & had a tapper, so when he added the set screw it crowded sideways & gasses came back the side & split the receiver. So since then he has no cupped palm, but kind of flat with 2 fingers & a thumb! Because he had altered the job he received NO compensation!
Again great advice. One cannot be to careful. I’ll share one of mine where recently I came close to a barrel obstruction situation. I had just put a new Leupold scope on one of my rifles. Typically I I’ll use a laser bore sight at home to get it close before heading to the range. But this time I laser sighted it at the range at 25 yards and then moved to 100 to shoot. I have a habit of pulling my bolt and checking for any obstruction before shooting. But this time I loaded around and was about to squeeze the trigger. I stopped, thought I better follow my practice. Laser sight was still in the bore. I was a second from running a great rifle and new scope. Not to mention my health. Developer safe habitats and follow them.
That would be a sick feeling for sure Good Lesson. I think nothing should ever be inserted in the barrel at the range to risky that something like this could happen
One of my greatest fears is that something happens to you and all your knowledge is lost.
Thanks for sharing with us! God bless you and the Mrs.
I wish we could hang out. I'm learning so much. Thanks Bud!
About a year ago, a friend of mine bought reloads from some guy on the internet. He just wanted the primed cases. He pulled the 200 bullets and dumped the powder and saved the bullets. He had no use for the powder but knowing how hard to find/expensive it was he asked if I wanted it. It was a lot of powder as it came from 200 .300WM rounds. I told him to just get rid of it. Yes, it was a lot of powder to dump but although it was recorded as IMR4350...he never saw it come out of the can. What if it was mis labeled and was something else but then loaded as the IMR4350? Not worth the chance....luckily he agreed and dumped it.
I bought a 7mm remington magnum model 700 from a local gun shop. took it to the range and fired it once. the bottle neck front of the case blew off and nothing tearable happened. I took it back and it was sent to a gun smith school. someone had rechambered the barrel for a longer cartridge but not remarked the barrel. the gun smith school put a brand new remington barrel on it and remounted the muzzle brake. the gun shoots really nice now. the gun store was able to resell the now properly marked barrel to someone else. I was lucky. I put a timeny after market trigger in the gun to prevent the dangerous problem with the factory safety.
Nothing but 100% agreement! I'll never know all that you know about firearms, but what I do know, I know with confidence. From a young age I was taught that hand loading is a dangerous business. That a clear and serious mind be used in doing it. I know a fairly new guy from our range. He was working up a handload and decided to make some substitutions. He used a broad spectrum of powder weights when working up his hand load. He brought his loads to the range and shot his lighter load first and the round squibbed but he didn't know it. When he stepped up with his next shot he blew that rifle up and I was there. Thank God he wasn't injured. Read from an established set of hand load books and pay attention and don't stray from the path. Because one day you'll go too far in your compromises and it could cost you a lot more than money. I love all your videos sir! Thank you!
Great video. My favorite of all time is your video about Les Bowman and the 7mm Remington Magnum...Legendary information!
Love this channel, GOD bless you and yours Randy...
I know I commented yesterday, but I am hoping after watching some of your older videos, 3-4 yrs ago, hoping that you may have apprenticed some of our younger gunsmith’s, you have so much talent, knowledge to pass along. Blessings you and yours.
I met a fella on the range one day with a shiny new contender in 44 mag, just like the one I was shooting.
This fella claimed he liked to load his hot.
Give em a little extra.
I decided it was time to go to the rifle lanes.
But not before he blew his new contender apart.
I was not injured, he got a bloody hand.
Remember folks, you could very easily injure or kill a bystander.
That is responsible and safe reloading lecture we all have to follow these golden rules
I have been reloading ammo for for 53 year . Never had a blow up yet. Came close. A overload with a 6mm Remington Ackley improved on a Remington 700. Primer blew and part of the case head . Hot a face full of gas . No injury but scared the heck out of me. Used a rubber mallet to hammer the bolt open . I was shooting 5 shot groups 5th round Blew . Using a load with Winchester 760 ball powder and a 70gr. Sierra bullet . Don't remember the powder charge but all weighed out . The previous 4 cases showed no cratered primer but flatting around edge of primers but not bad añd no ejected marks on case head or difficult extraction. Never trusted slower burning ball powder again even though that may not have been the problem.
A privilege to hear from you sir. I see this was a recently published episode, and one which will be invaluable to shooters who know what they're doing, and the novice of today's culture. It has been a few minutes. Regarding 'unsupported case'. Maybe there was too much reliance on lathes which do all of the work within the 21st century C&C machining process.
In regards to powder measures, same with electronic powder measures. In the RCBS measure, if you don't tip it sideways when emptying it can leave powder in the hopper area where it intersects the trickle tube. You also need to tip it forward to empty the trickle tube.
Sound advice, thank you sir.
I love listening to you! Much is above my visualization, but pure wisdom and commonsense reigns in the stories! Thank you!
Never can get enough of your wisdom sir. Much appreciated content you give.
Thank you sir, sound advice once more!
I always rely on current published data and work up loads with attention to detail. I never want to see "that Light" you speak of. Thank you for your wisdom and sharing these experiences. It means a lot. Stay well and God Bless.
Randy , you and Mrs. Selby are God sends and you two do phenomenal job !!! I also love the depiction of Jesus on the crucifix that appears in many of your videos ! Thank you both , you’re awesome !!!!!
Terrific, knowledgable, common sense information and warnings. Thank you.
Great to see you again.
Definitely am glad for these videos, a real treasure trove of advice. Thank you for time
I saw a mini 14 that someone fired a 30 carbine round in . That was a ruined rifle. The other one was a friend who borrowed his dad's 7mm mag against orders. He put the barrel into the snow and didn't think about it. It ws on display at a local gunshop for years as it looked like a cartoon barrel explosion. 4 equal sections peeled back in a curl half the length of the barrel. 😮. I continue to ask internet people where did they get their information. ALWAYS READ YOUR MANUAL .THE WHOLE THING. Thanks again for your sage advice.
When I started reloading there were about 12 powders to chose from. A look at the burn rate chart shows 163 choices. There always seems to some “miracle powder of the month” . Temperature insensitive, low flash, even cleans the bore for you , high velocity per caliber , a real brew of chemicals. Anyways I just want to point out with all the powder choices out there and colour coded cans allot of the cans appear similar. Make sure you check the numbers before loading and only have one can open on the bench. When I started loading powder was $2.00/lb.
And you know how to use a computer too! Dang!
100% agreement! This is serious serious business, handloading!
@@Jeff_Seely Yes; hand loading requires your undivided attention. Don’t get distracted ,pay attention to what you do and set in place checks and balances. Get yourself a reloading manual and read it many times. There’s a lot of misinformation on the internet. Some of it is laughable some is deadly. I have a whole library of manuals collected over 51 years. No internet in those days. Subscribe to Handloader magazine. Enjoy.
I do not subscribe to Handloader Magazine but I will give it a serious look. These posts are all very important to the guy getting in to reloading. Especially what you said, all of it. 50 years of reloading is a long long time. I shoot skeet with a couple of guys that have similar time and I have learned a lot from them! Take care
Also, new rounds, like prc, have hard shoulder angles for easy measuring during reloading. No fancy curved shoulders .interesting to think why it was that so many old school cartiridges have straight walls. Easy to machine. Easy to reload. Easy to prevent kaboom.
Great to hear you talk mate! I re load for hunting I load all my guns 1 grain above minimum less recoil more accurate and longer service life of my gun! I hunt so I can shoot from 50 to 200 mentors max depending on what gun I'm using
Most modern powders are designed to burn the most efficiently at max pressure. My father mistakenly believed as you do. Your guns can shoot better by upping the charge toward the top end. That's the reality. Talk to the manufacturers of smokeless powder. They will tell you.
The real gunsmith. I would love to see a muzzle loader video. What guns you like and a load work up.
Great video sir. Thank you for all the safety tips.
I have a rule, "if in doubt, pull the bullet!"
(Also, cleaning rods should ALL Have a large red ball for handle that blocks aim!)
This topic is important. Lot of hot rodders out there who will load until it just about bursts the action and bolt has to be beat open with a mallet. I start at start and work up until I get acceptable and reliable accuracy.
Thanks Randy good show as per usual
Thank you Randy!
Thank you for the video yall really informational and makes you thank even more especially when hand loading.God bless
I'm a little surprised I've never had any catastrophes while hand loading. I'm very careful, but when I started I definitely slacked occasionally. Only one really near miss. Had a 9mm squib. Didn't notice (amateur) and racked a new round. Lucky for me it was lodged maybe 1/16" away from letting me chamber, or I would have yanked another.
Thank-you for your experience,research,.....and hard work.....and good videos.... important !
Yes. Good advice. Less the barrel obstructions have experienced all the other scenarios or similar. you speak of. Fortunately caught them before it became an issue. Check twice and check it again is my 2 cents.
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Well said exactly 💯% right
I always take the bolt out of my rifles before I do any shooting whatsoever and look down the bore to make damn sure it's clean and empty . Can't be too careful with these rifles.
I also like to do the same, to make sure there's nothing in the bore.
When I prep guns for hunting, I will check for clear barrel and then put some electrical tape over the muzzle.
Regarding pulling down ammo, I have found that with heavily compressed loads, some of the powder will stick to the underside of the shoulder and can only be removed with a bent paperclip or a hex wrench with part of the short side ground off.
Certain powders like cfe 223 are extremely "sticky" with static electricity. I've seen it stick to the inside of my powder hopper like crazy. I finally got an electronics anti-static strap and ground the hopper and trickly tube of my measure and the problem went away.
You sir are a reloading wizard, and a true font of information.
Well Sir we have yet one more real world problem and I am almost key word being almost guilty of it and that's the availability of components or lack there of and substituting one for a norther Ie. magnum primers for regular primers, trying to match burn rates of powders that are not listed in the manual for a particular load to find a substitute for a powder I could not get. It was then that the light came on for me and decided to put every thing away before The big light comes on.
Through your channel i will keep learning thank you
Thanks good information and video,
great advise! especially concerning reloading information. I have frequently come across guys talking about making binary loads.....and I cringe every time I read them. if it's not in a manual, I don't load it.
thank you for another great video.
THANK YOU!
Powder sticking in the case is so common and some powders are very dense so what looks like a little can be a lot. Especially ball powders used in 223/5.56 and 308/7.62 NATO, for some reason they love to stick and you might have a grain or 3 stuck in the case and you won’t have any reliable way of knowing how much is stuck in that case without getting it all out. Also powder measures are largely if not exclusively made of plastic, and that builds static potential which causes static cling to effect the powder, this leads to a phenomenon called bridging, where one charge will throw a light drop and another a heavy drop. With plastic wiping with dryer sheets is the recommended method of mitigation and frequent spot checking charges by weighing them. Also visually inspect every case before seating bullets, so you have a final check and while some powders are so dense a full grain isn’t always visually evident many will give at least some clue.
Weigh every charge. Don't throw charges into cases. Dump the weighed charge into cases. Problem solved.
I saw the light it was only 9mm but you don’t put the same charge in a 147 grain as you do a 115 grain. God bless you and yours Mr.Selby
This is good advice, glad you didn't bag on any 6.5s this video.
Randy, I agree 99% of everything you say. Just haven't found the other 1% yet! :) Appreciate all you share. I've also been in this business for many decades myself. Would love to shake your hand and buy a cup of coffee. Bucket list thing I guess.
I would like to see a video on safety concerning tempature Sensativity with various types of powder. I have loaded ammunition that had zero pressure sighns and ran fine until it sat in the sun in the dessert. That powder was sensitive enough to being set in the sun that it blew primers.
Interesting.
IMR 4198 per chance?
@@NickFrom1228 IMR 8133 Enduron which is supposed to be temperature insensitive. I have never seen such a violent spike in pressure from temperature. Loads that exhibit no pressure signs, no flattened primers, no sticky bolt, no ejector marks nothing at 60 degrees with two different loads for two seperate rifles. Took the same loads to the dessert and had the ammunition sitting in the sun when it was probably 95 degrees. That temperature difference alone took those loads from no pressure issue to dangerously high pressure. I have loaded for a while and I was aware of this possibility which is why I deliberately choose powders that are supposed to be less sensitive to this type of situation. I will have to make a video and show the cases. After blowing a few primers I went out the next day when it was overcast and 60 degrees same loads not a single issue.
@@averyneilson12 Interesting that it happened with the 8133. I look forward to the video.
thank you for all this excellent information.
I've made my share of mistakes, luckily never anything that damaged any rifles or myself. Had a pet load in my remington 700 in 270 win. 60 grains of RL 19 would push 130gr hornady bullets at 3225 fps, and would keep 5 shots in 3/4 of an inch as long as I didn't let the barrel get too hot. However I only ever shot it in winter, while hunting. I fired a round once on a warm summer day, and pierced the primer. Bolt was excessively hard to lift. I immediately unloaded the rifle, and when I went home I pulled all the bullets. Not worth the risk.
I have a new load with 140gr hornady bullets and imr 4831. Shoots 3050 fps and no issues on even the warmest summer days.
Words well spoken. This sport is not worth your life.
Very good talk. Thankyou
One great way to avoid negligence in hand loading is to scrupulously keep accurate records. Write down what you intend to do before you do it. This is the "mother may I" approach. After you complete each step check it off. Make sure the completed rounds are properly labeled. This way you are sure to keep proper records. This avoids mistakes such as using the wrong powder. With proper record keeping negligence can be caught before the accident happens.
There is a video on kentucky ballistics a few months old. The man had a .50 bmg overpressure blow up, and a lot of luck that hw survived it
Another great video! Thank you sir!!
Thank you... great advise. easy to screw up.
Great episode.
As an old (as in retired) Field Artilleryman, I have a great respect for things that go boom. I forget how I did it, but managed to catch a major overcharge of H110 in 45 Colt Ruger loads when I was putting together my first Ruger loads. I hate to think what those 34 grain (IIRC) loads would do to a good Blackhawk.
They probably would have been fine. As long as the case didn't bulge from powder compression. I've used lots of hot H110 loads in straight cases. Once the case is full, the pressure doesn't climb substantially when you compress more powder in there. I am not recommending it, but I've been there and done that. Still shoot a few of those loads, including a 235 grain flat nosed cast bullet in a 357 Mag over 12 grains of H110. Again, not recommending it, but it's safe in my gun, and with it I shot through a 1500 lb moose.
Man I have learned alot from you. Thank you very much
Everyone should watch this video periodically, no matter what the experience is. People sometimes are ignorant or like @LB mentioned, get complacent. I check every load in several manuals as well as Quickload for pressure estimates. I take my Labradar and work up to the highest load charge in small increments, always looking for signs of pressure as well as measuring with a micrometer and calipers on the case head once I get to the top of the ladder to look for abnormal growth in relation to my chamber (I like to do new load development with new brass for this reason and then repeat the test with fireformed brass). I do this even though I never get close to exceeding theoretical pressure calculations or exceeding maximum published loads by any sort of large margin. I do this when I change primers or primer lot or powder lot. I have a modern action that can withstand a lot more pressure than I’m giving but its all fun and games till you get shrapnel in your face or at best destroy a barrel or action. I would skimp on safety glasses - not anymore, ever. Regardless, complacency does set in - so watching this and stuff like Kentucky Ballistics getting blown up gets me right in line again.
Hopefully you have just saved some people from a nasty surprise..... I've only been reloading for about 30 years, and usually stick to the manuals. Even then I usually work up, watching the Chronogrpaph for those sudden velocity jumps that say "whoa....back off!".......So far have avoided "the big light goin' off" :-D
If the velocity is crazy high? probly the pressure is most likely dangerous.
My father gave me some good advice on this subject. Don't try to turn a 9mm into a .357 Magnum! If you need a .357 buy one.
Always enjoy the videos.
Thank you that is great advice
Thank you Sir
I completely screwed up once loading a Carl Gustaf 6.5 Swede using 4198 powder instead of 4350, 43.0gr load. I’m not a rookie, been hand loading for 50+ years. I wound up with a load that created 101,116 psi instead of 49,115. I wound up with 7 pieces of metal in my left eye, two are too deep to remove. Completely wrecked the action. It blew out the bottom of the mag well, broke the stock, sheared off a lug. My fault totally but in my defense the color of the bottles are almost the same. Heck of it is, I didn’t load 4198 in anything for a long time. Use 4350 a lot. I have no idea how I didn’t see the difference but I didn’t. Bottom line, 4198 is in a completely different place now and I triple check my powder.
Wow thats a Rough Lesson Learned but your still Here.
At a ranges in my area I know of two people killed. One was a blow up, one was a result of "Tuning" a handgun. The man that was killed by a blowup was using a Lee Navy (If I remember it right) and was hit in the head with a piece of the receiver ring. This was the coroners report. Obviously the steel was heat treated too hard and it may have been reloading involved too. I get laughed at because I always refused to work on '03 Springfields. I remember an auction in Canada where a guy had a large pile of '03s AND 1917 Enfields for parts. They all had cracked receivers. I was a little leery of using WWI Mauser actions for anything hot. The thing that always amazed me about people was they knew something was wrong or had changed and they just keep shooting it!
Had a Remington 700 come in the shop in .308, shoulder had a chunk missing in the chamber no lug set back from inspection headspaced fine it was the weirdest thing I have ever seen.He brought it in when he noticed his brass had a contoured bulge on the shoulder.
I would give a good guess that the problem that you mentioned was from when the steel was made that the billet end wasn’t cropped off and left voids in the steel structure . Or it was from a hurried manufacturing reeming process ,
I was reloading 25/05 rounds mildly I thought? Went for a hunt with some rounds in my pocket. Checked If any rounds in my pocket had fallen out. Oops, yes rounds still, there but also gunpowder also there? About 4 rounds in my pocket, but the primers 2 had fallen out and the powder also. Primers only fall out if the shell casing head had expanded from overcharge. Ooops straight home and that batch mic'd and unloaded and casings thrown out. So using a micrometer when loading trials is very important. Lucky I never saw a flash or rounds stuck in the chamber.
Thinking back, lucky I was using slow powders.
I'm working up loads at the moment. By measuring case heads is .001'' expansion a stop singn ?
. Im working up of .1 grains over 10 cartridges at a time .
Kind Sir, I bought a 350 Legend with a 20" stainless steel barrel in a AR15 body. In my STW my gun builder used Vehitavuoeri N165 powder. It's a slower burning powder and might not be the hot ticket for a gas charged firearm? This is a very new caliber with straight wall shell and Vehitavuoeri doesn't have any guidelines to follow. Is there a comparable powder that I can start at It's low end and develop up to the most premium results? I truly appreciate any information that you can provide. God bless you and your wife.
Eric Dailey
The Mark 5 weatherby action would not blow and probably the barrel would not have either. Roy tested his actions to 200,000 PSI. He claimed to cram a 220 gr. bullet in the throat and chamber a 220 gr. Factory ammo behind it shooting both bullets out the barrel. The action was taken apart and miked. The receiver only expanded 1/1000. Tremendous strength.
intresting to listen to your experiences😊
I'm reloading all evrything i shoot,rifle and handgun.
To be safe, you have to know what you are doing,that is essential.
Keep up the good work 👍
Really like your videos 😊
I was lucky. Had a bore sighter in the muzzle end of a 22 magnum. The instructions said don't forget to take it out before firing about 500 times. What did I do, yes I did. About 4 inches from the muzzle end inside the barrel it left the image looking like a wedding band pushed into the barrel all the way around. I was lucky.
You were lucky!
Thanks for watching.
I would love for you to do a video on field shooting conditions. For example when hunting do you normally shoot off of your pack or take a bipod or what is your typical method?
I use any method of rest at hand, never a bipod as the accuracy goes down with them, no matter what. I use my back pack, rocks, knees, branches [sturdy ones] etc.
I'll take it into consideration.
Thanks for watching.
Words to live by!
Good vdo people who reload need to watch this.
All very good information however I have to ask……. How the heck does a guy leave a cleaning rod in there rifle. I mean seriously when I clean my firearms I see it completely though. I fully function test that firearm and clean my rods then put all away. The only way I can see a cleaning rod being left in a rifle is if you are half ass cleaning your weapons. Wow the last scenario applies to me personally. I picked up about 80 308 Winchester cartridges of unknown history. Bottom line is I plan to pull down these cases I’ll definitely be checking them with a flashlight. That was some VERY GOOD information.
My thoughts exactly...how in the hell
Couple months ago I learned obstructions are the most common reason for blowing up guns(I thought hot loads), same article cleaning rods were the most common obstruction. Told my buddy who is also a big gun guy and hunter. He was a incredulous as I was. "What you mean dummies leave cleaning rods in rifles"
There is a You Tube of a self filmed muzzle loader hunter shooting his ram rod at a deer.
I would install a large brightly painted BALL over the cleaning rod handle! (Somebody steal this idea & market it!)
Hey Randy, big fan incredible knowledge base. Btw if you happen to slide down my chimney this
Christmas, could you bring one of your rifles chambered in 28 Nosler.
LOL, don't you wish! ;) Too late for this Christmas, put your bug in the ear of your financier for next!
Thanks for watching!
Wow, that first one the stupidest story I ever heard. I always look down my barrel to check for obstructions.
Word to the wise.
excellent info
Most people can't shoot game consistently and ethically at the ranges achievable with a 7mm RM or 7mm PRC. The high bc bullets are really of no consequence for most hunters. IMHO. But nevertheless they are fun to play with for target shooting.
1/8" of an inch!? That's a mile in gunsmithing/machining tolerances.
I have always stayed within the limits of published reloading data.
Common sense ain't so common...anymore
Complacency kills
You are a great wealth of knowledge did or does anyone make a 2506 lever with a clip? If you had to get one custom made what would you recommend?
I don't know of anyone that makes one.
Since I have a plethora of choices, it's hard to say, but the .300 Wby.
Thanks for watching.