BRAND BATTLE! YAMAHA vs. SUZUKI vs. HONDA
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- BRAND BATTLE! YAMAHA vs. SUZUKI vs. HONDA
Today Andy talks about the Brand Battle between Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda outboards. The ultimate Japanese throw down starts now...
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This was great, thanks for the honest assessment. I’m a Honda guy, but I usually buy with reliability as my main concern. I still agree with your ranking.
👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Re-powering my boat with a 200 HP Suzuki. Glad to hear you positive thoughts on the brand.
Glad we could help!
You’re 100% right, my Honda isn’t the fastest but man that thing will fire up every time no questions asked. Low maintenance is all I can ask for!
Hondas are heavy.
Yamaha suck.
Suzuki hands down it makes gas. Always starts.
I do like your opinion but in my personal experience the only 2 motors I have ever run into was a mercury that stopped working miss trip and a Honda which was a prick to Start and was always having issues out on the water as far as sazuki and Yamaha goes I am currently running a Yamaha it's fantastic but I have have one incident out at see where it took about an hour to get started and for Suzuki it's the only motor that's never given me any issues and it's what a m looking to put back on my boat this coming year
@@user-maxim_79Yamahas are actually the heavy ones
I have a 2008 yamaha F150 on a Skeeter SL190 F&S. It's my first 4 stroke and really sips the gas and have had absolutely no problems. Plus, maintenance is a breeze and all of the internals are meticulously designed. This particular 4 stroke will not win any races, but it will absolutely bring you home.
I have a 25 hp Suzuki. Love it! We went to Alaska a month ago and about all I saw up there were Suzuki. It’s a tough ass environment.Shit, everything in Alaska is a tough ass !!
One important consideration when buying an engine. There are Yamaha service centers all over the place. When buying a Suzuki, you might want to check how far away the nearest service center is to you.
Valid point!
I have always had Mercury and recently changed to Honda. Wow what a motor so easy to start , runs super smooth and sips the fuel.
I like the way you look at it! Thanks for the honest advice on outboard motors. Keep up the great videos.
Thank you very much John! 👍🏻
Had lots of Suzuki cars and lasted 300,000 kms
Always loved the outboards but never stepped up!
Into old vintage outboards 1930-40’s
We had an early 2000 Lund Fisherman with a 130 Honda. That Honda ran flawless, never much problems. My dad liked it the most because of how fuel efficient the Honda was. Last Winter, my dad bought a newer Lund pro v, that has a 175 Merc Verado. I’m interested to see whether he like the Honda or Merc better.
Glad to hear positives about the small Suzuki. I've had a 20 HP for a year now that I use on my 13 foot inflatable for diving. Thing runs great but I've had people tell me that the internals, valves to be exact, rust and cause problems over time. Your thoughts?
Happens to any engine that isn’t used for long periods of time. Nothing to worry about
I live on the East coast down in Savannah GA and I'm currently running the Suzuki 250 SS on a 22' CC that I run salt and fresh and I love the engine. It's the first Suzuki that I've ever personally owned and I really couldn't be happier. For those curious about speed... with my particular boat, which, loaded with fuel, ice, rods and bait, is right around 4200 lbs, her happy cruising speed seems to be around 36-38 at approx. 3500-3600 rpm and my average mpg are usually between 2.6-3.6 at those RPMs, just really depends on the weight and the conditions and I've seen 55 at around 5800. Overall, I give her a thumbs up!
👍🏻👍🏻 Awesome!!!!
great Video mate. I went for a 30hp Suzuki on my little boat. OMG i love it, i went from a 18Hp Tohatsu to my new Suzie, man i am in heaven! Keep up the good work.
Heck Yeah! That 30 is a great little motor!
My Friend ordered 2 250 hp E-tec . Could not get them because of the pandemic . So he ordered 2 Suzuki's . I'am glade he did. Waiting for controls, but time will tell. Break them in this year and run them hard next year and many more down the road. I'm with you all the way.
Wow Covid actually did some good! haha Hope it all great for your friend!
Has 2024 Honda Vtec closed the lead on performance?
I used to be a dirt bike guy and for those who remember Yamaha came out with the first high performance 4 stroke in the late 90s.
Well I'm glad found this channel. Just traded my Merc 25 for a Suzuki 40 upgrade and was uncertain about the decision but starting to get a better feeling about it now.
Suzuki's Rock!!!
Mercury may be tetter but suzuki has 15 more hp so its probuably good trade
@@luidolinsek2904 after a few months running the Suzuki hands down better. Starts better, idles better, being new it's not made in China like the Merc. I am happy as hell so far with zuke so far.
Agree the SHO is hard to beat can it be done absolutely a little tweaking here and there by either company could make them that much better. I'm interested in the price difference between the 3 as well that plays a big part in people decision making. Great video keep up the good work 👍
Suzuki gives more in less price.
Suzuki is cheaper Yamaha has better performance and Suzuki is probably better reliability, has much longer factory warranty
I love my Honda BF200. The thing that brought me to pick a Honda Outboard was the customer service I got with Honda. I had a Yamaha water product that I had problems with and it was like pulling teeth to get it fixed right. My original BF200 had a design flaw in the throttle area. Honda kept in contact with me to see if the repairs worked. It didn't and they replaced the motor with a new BF200. I will never by a Yamaha product after yhe way they treated me. Thank you HONDA!!!!
That's the most important thing and we are glad that you are gonna be a Honda guy for life now.
Had first year model BF200. Had a recall on main wiring harness but mine only had 50 hours and it wasn’t the problem. Early model had problem with plug in “BOX” the one that has 3 solenoids that shutoff ignition, fuel pump, and injection when kill switch is activated. Finally found out why my motor was cutting out at higher power setting when the “BOX” finally caught fire. It was only like $60 and I was busy fighting war after Sept 11 (Engine only had 60 hours after 4 years). Warranty was 3 years and Honda refused to even give me the part I could replace myself. Part was a know manufacturing issue as Honda was on version 3 already. I had the exact opposite customer service from Honda headquarters.
Part should have been part of a safety recall if it is known to catch fire
I have owned Yamaha outboards and they have always been very reliable for me.
My dad runs a barge service to Cumberland Island. He runs 250hp on 20’ boat pushing 40’ aluminum barge. Really works a motor as you can imagine. It’s all salt water. He has run Yamaha and Suzuki, several of each. The Suzuki’s have held up the best by a good margin especially the lower units. I have a 200 SHO on my 18’ Ranger and it’s awesome.
Thank you for this video. I’m in the market for a Suzuki 115 SS rn the price point between the SHO and the SS are a big difference for me and you telling me that the performance of both are very similar helps me out a lot
That 115 SS rocks!!!
@@TeamMarineService is that 115 SS motor is a cheater like the SHO line? For example the 90 SHO is a 100, the 115 is same as the 130 regular Yam. If not, it is not fair to compare a 90 SHO to a regular DF90, eventhough both of them have 90 stickers.
@@carbonduke01 Looking at Suzukis page. The SS seems to only have different graphics. Everything else on their spec sheet is the same as their regular 115
@@JVRottweil same as overhyped sho
Given Honda hasn’t gotten caught up in the huge horsepower battles like Yamaha and Merc with 400 hp outboards, how does their 250 compare? The Honda 250 has a 2.0 gear case and revs to 6,300 RPM while the Yamaha stops at 6,000. I couldn’t find the Yamaha gearing. Granted the Yamaha has more displacement, but shouldn’t they perform pretty similar with the right prop?
Forgot to mention motorcycles titan 500,, GS 1100, DR 650, all lasted a long time!
Clearly a man that has never had to throw a punch.
#swing1st Hahahaha!!!
@@TeamMarineService meanwhile....dude talking crap is still trying to find his way out of that wet paper bag 😂
After much research, I went with twin 200 Suzukis to repower my 266SF Worldcat. Now I’m refitting a 16’ Kenner with a Suzuki 90hp. My gripe with Suzuki is they are slow to distribute their smaller hp motors to their dealers.
Awesome Ray! You're correct on Suzuki being slow to distribute their smaller hp motors due to the demand for them being so high.
Looking at buying a 2016 pontoon with a 200 Honda, whats the feedback on these motors? Not many Hondas down here in Louisiana. Thanks
I like it. I think the most relevant 3 would be suzuki, Yamaha, and merc. Love to hear that. Good shit, brother
Thanks David! We agree
Why is tohatsu being left out, they build more than zuk or honda right under yammy.
I pulling around 5200 -5300 fully trimmed. Cruising speed 32 mph , I rarely open it up , she's old .
I found two sites on the boxed motors oversees however there are reports they never show up and then battle begins trying to make a claim.
We've heard the same thing!
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Can you make a video comparing Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda outboards?
Quick answer: Yamaha = Most performance by a hair over Suzuki (for now).....Suzuki = Most reliable......Honda = Just happy to be in the discussion!
Whats your pick on a 90 or 115 on an 18 to 20 aluminum boat. Looking for reliability, longevity quietness and just overall build quality in terms of thoughtful engineering.
I’m not a mechanic, but I have long come to the same observation. Won’t share the merc banter here. Challenge is the new every year owners don’t have to worry about reliability.
You are 100% correct!
They definitely got the slogans switched about!
Honda, the way of life
Yamaha, the power of dreams
Suzuki, revs your heart
Hahaha Good one Pablo!!!!
That's pretty good
Great vid Andy! You really look great when you hold your hands in front of your face!
Haha thanks buddy!
The only thing that scares me about Suzuki is resell. The SHO resales very well. I realize this will change as the Suzuki becomes more popular and gets more dealers.
Understandable Scott and you are correct with your statement
What is currently the best 8hp outboard motor? Thanks in advance ☺️
We would say Suzuki purely because of the great warranty. All of the Japanese brands are solid at that hp level
Modern boats that rival champion. Specially rough water ride and handling abilities. Spend some time on hull design and pad design differences.
Charger 210 and 198 are a rebadged Champion basically. It is an exact copy of the Champion hull and top cap. Even some of the champion employees now work for charger. Also bass cat builds a boat called the puma hybrid that has a copy of the champion hole with the puma top cap
Looked at Zukes here in CO, issue came up with service. Only one dealer in state two hours away for them. My merc and yammy service centers plenty of them around. When motor is out of warranty getting parts for my merc and yammy easier either thru service or online, find getting zuke parts was difficult. Even tohatsu has a nice parts center in texas.
Think Suzuki has better chance of survival than evinrude if they start getting more shops opened up.
You're are totally correct, they do need more service centers! Give them time and they'll expand across the country.
Same here I have 3 Yamaha dealers within 15 minutes of each other and they’re all selling outboards.
I got a 9.9 suzuki with a 20 hp ecu . Is a bad ass little motor. I run it hard and have had zero problems.
Interesting, not under warranty anymore we assume?
@@TeamMarineService no need for a warranty suzuki makes a solid outboard. .....awsome videos keep it up.
I had a honda and beat the snot out of but it was too sluggish for me. Had a yamaha 25, it was alright. Took forever to get there. I just bought a 2022 suzuki 40 and its smooth as can be, i fell inlove with it. I live near the bearing sea and the lean burn techno helps a heap
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inboard vs outboard, I'm looking at Windys and Regals and most of them do the Volvo Penta inboards and my bias to inboard is ppls say that for theft it's better with an inboard etc. What's your take?! ps also Honda biased ;) also Suzuki which ppl love!
Suzuki 115 and 140 vs other contenders would be good for mid power
Used high mile newer outboard vs old low miles outboards. That's my dilema right now. 2021 Tohatsu with 1100 hrs vs 2007 yamaha with 500 hrs.
Just hit your channel for the first time today. All I can say is. AWESOME! 👍🏿
Im really leaning towards Suzuki before I came across this video.
Mostly because I'm in a very remote location, if I have troubleshooting issues, I'd have to fly the outboard down and back to me ($2100 to ship for a honda rincon 680 for example).
Generally, if its Japanese made,it's made for the canadian arctic, everyone is junking their fords, chevys, and rams and buying toyota.
I'm buying Suzuki, for sure.
Hello from Wisconsin, Where exactly are you located? If you want reliability go with any of the Japanese motors, with Suzuki being the pinnacle of reliability in our opinion! Let us know your experience up there with your Suzuki when you get it, we'd love to hear!
@@TeamMarineService im located at Baker Lake,Nunavut. No roads coming or leaving here, or train rails, we get our toys on cargo planes all year, or in the summer season we receive them on the barge.
So its very crucial to have the best of the best, there is a store that specializes with yamaha outboards, but no actual yamaha tech.
Wow that's wild...literally! Totally understand that you need the best of the best up there! Let us know if you have any Suzuki questions in the future or need any help getting one!
Great insights. I'd be very interested in your thoughts comparing a Merc 115 pro xs ct vs Suzuki 140 for a older repower that cant handle weight of larger engines. Thanks!
I’m looking for this too. I’ve heard mixed things about the 140, but the 150 is too heavy for my older boat. The merc 115 seems like a great motor, but I can get more hp/lb and dollar with that 140.
@@ScruffyCityFishing Yep, if they could just bring down the weight of the 150s..
@@ScruffyCityFishing let me know what you end up doing. If you pull the trigger on one.
@@ScruffyCityFishing that's why I bought the 140 power to weight and $
I think Honda has a big contract with the government. Any ferries I’ve taken in national parks from the west coast to Florida has Honda motors.
Very interesting!
My grandparents had a 70 hp yamaha from the 90s hooked up to an 80s delta craft and it was fun
I'm still using a honda kicker from the 80s.
Just some info for everyone. Sometimes those "Japanese" engines aren't made in Japan. Worked on a little Honda 2.3Hp the other day and it was made in China. I've seen plenty of smaller Suzukis made in Thailand. Some small Yamahas have made in France on the tag. Finally, the other Japanese manufacturer Tohatsu is becoming popular here in South Florida- especially the smaller engines- Which by the way are virtually identical to the small Mercs they build.
You are correct here but we feel like they're made to a higher standard.
Tohatsu is Honda
Only the 150hp and up.
I have run all of them, Mercury, Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki. I grew up on the Kenai river. First boat had a Mercury, 70 HP 2-stroke. The river went to HP restrictions so even though I did not have any problems with the motor it had to go. Had one of the first 50 hp Hondas 4-stroke. As did a lot of the local guides. A large percent of them including mine went tits up within a year. After that experience I gave up on Honda. Yamaha came to the rescue, and was the motor of choice for the river. I am still running one of the older T-50's to this day with over 7000 hours on it. I liked my Yamaha and it was natural to run twin 115 Yamaha's on my offshore boat. Now that I am upgrading to a larger offshore boat I was back to looking at outboards again. This time Twin 200's. Over the last 5-7 years the number of Yamahas has slowed and we are seeing more Suzuki's show up. Started talking to the Guides and commercial guys and it seems that Suzukis seem to be the leader in the repower, and are now coming on strong as the new motor of choice when ordering or having a new boat built. I have talked with the local dealer (he sells both Yamaha and Suzuki) and he said that 80% of the repower's are Suzuki's and 65% of new boats are going out the door with Suzuki's. I ended up going with the Suzuki's myself.
So when I see videos like this which supports the numbers that are currently going on out there, I can appreciate the honest view. There are still way more Yamaha's up here in Alaska than any other outboard, but it seems that suzuki is making a run. Keep up the videos, Your candid assessment of these outboards scored you MEGA POINTS with me. I will be looking at more of your Videos - Liked this one so much I just subscribed.
Wow thanks buddy! That's great to hear your experience from up there in Alaska. We are seeing it more and more down here too with Suzuki being the #1 re-power choice and gain market share of new boats. If we fast forward 5 or 10 years from now it's going to be a Yamaha/Suzuki battle for who is top dog in the outboard world we feel. Thanks for your insight and comment, we're glad you are liking what we do!
Honda offers pretty good warranty on their car stuff. Kinda thought they would on there outboards too.. One year to failure? Hmmm.
I have twin 250 yamahas and I am considering repowering with Suzukis . Best warrantee and very close performance. Also a much better price point.
The suzuki has offset gear drives. I wonder if it can beat the yamaha vmax SHO?
Maybe not suzuki heavier then yamaha
Which is easier routine maintenance
Suzuki
@@TeamMarineService 😭 The others are just as easy. Give us a break down on replacing a voltage regulator on that Suzuki vs a belt on the Mercury Alternator. Lol
Shocked we ain’t seen any turbo four stroke outboards from any of the big companies yet .
Replaced my 20 yr old Honda 90, that still ran well with a new Suzuki 140 .. I went with it due to price and availability
I just bought a df25athl and cant wait to get it broke in and see what its about. I know it aint a power house but on a lowe uv1667 it should be a nice reliable engine that i can runaround all day on. I always was a suzuki guy both on land and on sea.
Heck Yeah! Hope it works out well for ya
@@TeamMarineService Thanks! seems like tomorrow will be my first few hrs of break in! got my 15 minute idle break in part done in the barrel.
@@TeamMarineService well its been a yr since I bought my 25 and now I have Suzuki fever! this engine is so smooth and quiet I cant get over it! and I can get 27mph in my boat. When i get my 21 foot coastal vokey I will be getting a df200ap for sure
I have 2008 Triton VT17 with a Mercury classic 50 2 stroke. Boats rated up to 75hp for the best top speed what brand 70-75hp engine would you choose?
Very glad to have come across your video ! I'm struggling deciding between the Suzuki or Yamaha 25hp. My number one priority is reliability, followed by quiet and smooth running. From other videos I have seen (I haven't seen/heard them in person), the Suzuki seems to be smoother and quieter (and better looking imo) vs the Yamaha. I only hesitate because a competing dealer put the scare in me saying the Suzuki dealer network is very limited and very difficult to find parts when needed.
Suzuki is more everything over Yamaha in our opinion! Don't be scared away by the rumors of "difficult to get parts" because that's simply not the case. As far as the dealer network...Suzuki is expanding across the country everyday so just give them time and honestly Suzuki Pro Adrian Avena said it best in one of our videos..."Unless you hit something, you aren't gonna have to see the dealer because these motors are so good!" Hope this helps! Thanks for watching and let us know what ya go with!
2 cylinders for the Yamaha and 3 for the Suzuki. So, the Suzuki will be heavier but should be smoother and probably have a better holeshot. Also, the Suzuki can likely be upped to 30Hp if desired. I've always found Yamahas easier to work on than Suzukis and parts availability (new and used) is also noticeably better for Yamahas but not bad for Suzuki. Either engine will be good- but so will a Tohatsu/Merc or Honda.
@@TeamMarineService So I went with the Suzuki 25ATH (it's a 2019 model to be exact). This is mated to a Lund SSV 16 and I think it will make for a good combination. I emailed Suzuki Canada (I'm near Montreal) about the dealer network and they replied with a list of Suzuki marine dealers across the province. It looks pretty good to me (over 20 locations) so I should be able to get good support if ever needed. My biggest issue now is I'm only taking delivery in the spring...it's going to be a long winter ! Keep up the good work with your videos !
@@bsrktm1 Thanks for your comment - I also felt the 3cylinders vs 2 would make for a smoother running engine, and also my understanding is the Yamaha fires both cylinders at the same time which effectively makes it function like a 1 cylinder engine ? I didn't know the 25hp could likely be upped to 30hp, but that makes sense because I believe the 25hp is based off the 30hp and shares the same larger engine block. I sort of felt this gives the Suzuki a bit of an edge too over the Yamaha (more displacement is better ? Might use slightly more fuel though?)
@@photocdn either engine will be fine. I believe all the current 25s are now 3 cylinders except the Yamaha. The Yamaha should be physically smaller and lighter if that matters. No, the Yamaha doesn't fire both cylinders at the same time. Both pistons will be at TDC together, but 360* out of phase(one on compression, the other on exhaust). Both will sip fuel- especially if you're used to an old carbureted 2stroke. good luck.
I’ve owned several bass boats. I have had Mercury and mariner both carb 2 strokes they were junk both were unreliable and both blew up. Then had a Suzuki great motor however when things went wrong I couldn’t find anyone within 100 miles to fix it. Then next boat had an e Tec Evinrude great motor got it new in 2007 boat and motor is still working great.sold that boat Now in a Yamaha 4 stroke on my Skeeter. My opinion Yamaha is #1
What would you recomend for salt water off shore outboard . All i vare about is reliable and fuel economy. Dont care at all about speed
I have a 07 stratos 275xl dual consol, going to be re-powering this spring. Looking at a new Vmax SHO 115 and the Suzuki SS 115. Which motor would you recommend? Also would you recommend a jack plate, and if so what size set back? Thank you ,love the channel!
Appreciate the video and the straight shooting. I currently have a old 2001 90 mercury 2stroke . I was leaning towards the SHO 115 . Now I have to throw Suzuki in the mix now. Purely saltwater fishing.What prop would you suggest pushing a 1720 key west sportmans. CC. not loaded down with anyone else just me . The mercury pushes me at 42 slick day fully trimmed out. Running a 21 pitch stainless.
Have you heard any issues with ordering the boxed motors from oversees other than never getting the motor, as far as mechanically?
Love the channel keep up the great work .
What rpm's are you running currently with your merc? Mechanically they are probably fine if one actually shows up
Yes I did consider the mercury 115 . Ive had my 90 for about 15 years. Still runs pretty good
I think when you compare motor of equal horsepower you have to make sure all factors are equal. For speed I would like to see actual data on the same boat at the same weight. For me its reliability. That is the most important aspect when you are out on the water. Loved this video. I am going to look at a boat like a Ranger Rug. I am looking at reliability in regards to the motor. If you have to put a motor on a boat and play on the great lakes which would you put on? Yamaha, Honda, Merc of Suzuki?
Never see the torque for Outboards which is strange given we are buying a motor. Car brochures have it and most owners wouldn't care.
Without torque figures to go off next best thing is CC. Larger CC high torque and typically heavier motor. That is why there can be significant weight differences between engines of same HP.
Im deciding btw Yamaha 100 Hp Caburator system and Suzuki 90 Hp Electrical fuel injection system on my 17 feet fiberglass boat. What would you recommend for? Thanks !!!
Suzuki for sure!
@@TeamMarineService Thanks sir !!!
Don’t really see Honda or Suzuki outboards here in the southeast. See a shit ton of Yamaha and Mercury. Probably more big Mercury engines (150-250)on bass boats and Yamaha on everything else. I’ve got a Yamaha 90 and never had an issue in 2.5 years
Interesting! 👍🏻
i am considering a repower for my 1756 Xpress jon and am rated for 90hp. I also run a tiller and a CMC HYDRO LIFT rated for 300 hp. My main concerns are reliability and speed carrying a load and lastly being able to get up in shallow tidal areas ( 8 to 12 inches ) Which would you recommend a Suzuki 90 or a Yamaha SHO? Thanks for your input.
Hi, what about reliability? Which is best? Honda?
They are all neck in neck when it comes to reliability. We'd say Suzuki though if we had to choose one
Hands down Honda. I’d put Suzuki 2nd
I has hear about some honda down hear in Louisiana oil right with 12k hours you don't find that in suzuki or Yamaha
New to boats. 06 Bass Tracker with a 50 2 stroke. Its been a fantastic boat for the local rivers. Love 2 stroke. Whats your feelings on that motor. Mercury 50.
I live in Alaska. Heavy majority Yamaha and Suzuki. Honda is not a big player, can't find anyone with anything good to say about them...maybe 20 years but not anymore.
Tohatsu: "Am I a joke to you?"
Hahaha! They are solid
thank you for your honest rating im a current 250 Johnson ocean pro old motor never gave me a drop of problems but the time has come to upgrade new motors getting 3xs the fuel economy of my old 2 stroke with better performance but going offshore i am starting to get a little nervous 20 yrs 0 problems but i think its getting time to give the old girl a break there will be some one out there who will be glad to get a cheap reliable motor for boating around the bays but going off shore its time thanks again for your assessment look forward to looking at some of your other videos'
Keep it coming. Huge fan of your video.
Thanks buddy, More to come!
My wife has a 19 year old Honda civic that is rusting apart and generally has got the living crap beat out of it. But it always starts and does not burn or leak a drop of oil. My 60hp Honda has been equally great.
Slap some Lindseed oil on the rust and run it another 20 years 😁
At this point it's paying you to keep it running.
whitch brand is most reliable and ease to get parts and best for diy ???
not concerned about all out performance !! reliability is king
Most reliable: Suzuki, ease to get parts: Yamaha, Price: Suzuki
@@TeamMarineService thank you for your help is honda as reliable as Suzuki ?
@@Rusty-Brown_ Honda is more reliable than any of them, he knows that lol but they are quite a bit heavier motors. Change the oil and filters the dealer will never see you again on the Honda.
I want to repower my 99 462vs Comanche, and I’ve been stuck between the sho and ss. I’m in the madison area and fish a lot of lake wisco and smaller rivers and lakes so I def want good reliability. But obvi top speed in a bass boat is important.
Suzuki definitely top dog on cape cod as far as repower.
i was told it was an $80 part and $2800 labor
What do you guys have to say about the tohatsu? Are they any good?
They are solid reliable outboards
What is your opinion on the lite weight 70 hp Yamaha??
Thanks for the video, I'm chasing 200hp twin engines for a 30ft heavy boat, I'm considering mercury, suzuki or yamaha. I'm not too worried about the performance however, I'm after something that is light, and WILL NOT brake. I make my living by diving and fishing trips, What is your advice. Thanks again.
Twin Suzuki's if it was us! Where are you located?
@@TeamMarineService I'm living in the united arab emirates
Thanks for the reply
I am looking at a second hand boat and it has a Suzuki df140 2017 model. When I check the gauge the engine hour is less than the trip hours 79 vs 84. What could be the explanation for this? Thanks.
Great video very truthful thanks.
Thanks for watching! Glad ya liked it
I am looking at the 80 mercury, 90 suzuki and yamaha 80. Are they all good? Or is yamaha or suzuki the only choice for a long life reliable performance?
In the meanwhile i bought the DF90 SUZUKI for our new Karnic consoleboat. We really wanted that Japanese reliability.
i'm considering a boat with a f150 yamaha,2019 model,I'm reading about nylon gear issues and harmonic balancer issues, both take the motor out
Hey Andy love the videos but I got a question. I have a little older df25 Suzuki and my prop is pretty beat up was wondering what a good replacement for it maybe? thank you
Hello guys, I bought a boat with an old Yamaha outboard 2-stroke engine built in 1983 50HP Model: 6F4 and I can't find a parts list or repair instructions. This engine is not listed anywhere. I'm desperate, someone please help me. Thanks in advance
Wish you would have added Mercury in this mix. Not mentioning them makes the comparison missing a link and doesn't complete this battle.
This Brand Battle was just the Japanese brands! In our opinion reliability wise Mercury is in last place. Performance wise they are probably on top with Yamaha nipping at their heals
Not including mercury was not a mistake, they are in a different league and it's not the majors.
@@paulcoenen7918 there is only 1 choice for simple and reliable that is the Honda/Tohatsu. Not going to win a speed boat race, but you will get great fuel economy and a quit reliable motor. There is a reason dealers don’t talk about Honda’s much, they never see them again after the sale.
What about the 200 ss. I want to repower my TR 196 but unsure the i4 will get any speed at all. Cheaper than other brands, better warranty but I cants see a 4 cylinder keeping up. Just looking for good info before I make a purchase
That's an understandable question to have...put it this way the Suzuki's make power on their bore and stroke size where Mercury has to add cylinders to make power. Times have changed in regards to the power a 4 cylinder can put out.
Team Marine Service thanks for the response, I really appreciate it. Do you have anyone that is running the 200ss, or any videos to share?
We just sold one and it's on back order. When we get it in we will do an unboxing, rigging and test drive vid!
I love Suzuki, people underestimate them and think they are garbage. But the thing is if you buy 2 Yamaha 250-350s you could buy 3 Suzuki 250s . Plus people don’t understand how amazing the 6 year no questions ask warranty. Only thing I wish about Suzuki is that they had 425s or 400s we have a 42 invincible.. with quad Yamaha 425s and we have a 33 intrepid with quad 350s Suzuki’s BY far we like the Suzuki’s
You are so correct about the affordability of Suzuki's and for some reason people question that. Kinda crazy....Eventually Suzuki will make the horsepower jump we suspect and that's some great first hand info you have with favoring the suzuki's over the yamaha's. Awesome!
Team Marine Service with the invincible with quad Yamahas we were 30 miles offshore, one motor overheated, we started to head back and then 2 other motors went out because of electrical problems and we had to limp home with 1 motor.
What about performance and less consuming of gas which is better? Btw, I'm planning to buy my 1st motorcycle, tnx.
Thanks for posting, good video. I hear him on Honda performance, then again, for me, "performance" MEANS performing reliably. Fishing in the ocean, I can't worry too much about "that little bit extra at the top end" from another brand. And with my budget, an engine needs to last as long as possible, so for me and I know, for a lot of people, TWO things matter: one, long term reliability, check to Honda as far as I can see and the second, ease of maintenance when I get under the cowling to change oil, find and replace a gas filter, what have you. Why is it, down in Mexico, land of the poor, they all want a Honda? Answer, those two things; same for me.
Really - I worked at a Honda Power Products shop back in early 80’s and ALL of their products were over engineered and unnecessarily complicated to work on FOR NO APPARENT BENEFIT!!!!
Refused to buy Honda Power Products ever since
@@glenholmgren1218 and I do see a lot of people who back up your experience; could be I simply heard the wrong things, from the wrong people. I have a friend who has had great luck with his Honda--then again, he is an engineer and is meticulous with maintenance, could be he would have had the same, or better luck with a different brand. Personally I have a Yamaha 115 and looking for a nice small kicker engine now--like a 4 to 6 HP range.
The Japanese motors have FORCED the Mercs. to up their quality(a bit), but they still have to be towed home. Any repair shops that I've been in are full of Mercs. waiting to get fixed. The tournament guys only like them because of all their sponsorships.
People talk a good game, but if they really cared about performance over reliability, Evinrude would have been the top motor.
Ummmmmm no, not in our opinion at least!
@@TeamMarineService what I mean to say is that Yamaha and Suzuki offer great performance with a track record for reliability that pushes them over the top when most people get to choose. Where I live, you are seeing a lot of Alumacraft with Suzuki and Lunds sporting Yamaha. I don't know if it was bad publicity, but the Evinrudes weren't regarded by the average consumer as reliable when compared to the 4 strokes. I don't think that is the case, just the impression most people had.
Just from what we've seen over years of service work, they weren't! We have tossed more Evinrudes into our big blue scrap bin then any other band by far. They had their time and it was a good run but adapt or die and they died....for now! Let's hope they come back better than ever
I agree. I didn't want it to appear as I was in disagreement. You see this stuff all day everyday.
Can y’all post a video of mercury vs the Japanese motors???
You got it! 👍🏻
There is no comparison.
Mercury = Chinese cost savings parts.
Nuf said already. Good day sir.
@@paulcoenen7918 not the 150 HP Merc.
commercial fishermen in Florida and salt that use the boat everyday are all going Suzuki, myself included. Honda to me is like there ATV they are well built and very few bells and whistles but seem to hold up well but will loose the fast race.
You're spot on about Honda! It's going to be interesting in the next couple years to see how much marketshare Suzuki gains.
Fortunately for me and a few other modest souls, we aren't in any races to begin with.
hello i have a century 3200 WA 2001 its a heavy boat and i want to repower it. for you which one is better yamaha 300 or suzuki 300.
thanks
Well we are a Suzuki dealer so we would lean towards the Zuk but the Yamaha is a great motor too!
@@TeamMarineService thanks. now which one are better for my boat 2 suzuki 250 or 300 cause my boat is too heavy.
For an offshore rig we personally would go with twin dual prop Suzuki 350's. In any case two 300's would be better than one.
Off subject what have you heard on tour pro motor guide trolling motor vs Minkota
On holding anchor position battery use and durablility