You mean you're telling me that Barioth was once a reasonable size for its speed, and that it was once possible to roll through its tail swipe without being frame perfect?
I came from mh3u and I have no problem rolling through its tail swipe in iceborne. So what's your problem? And in case you didn't know yet, mhw is the easiest entry in the series. You are welcome.
@@wolfeinsteinzify I don't think he's "really easy monster" tbh. I find it really annoying, esp when he decide to spam flying attack. That said, MHW barioth is easier simply due to more ways to control the monsters. I do feel that his broken arm stagger recovery time are way faster compared to mhp3rd
But wait Barioth got sick of being insulted so he went to the coldest areas in the new world to train and become stronger And here it is frostfang barioth looking like he is several times stronger but highly reconsidering his life choices
@@tucker579 man he is the only monster that completely defeated me multiple times (now alatreon did it too) and im expecting nightmares from the frozen barrioth
Tigrex is literally a push over. His forelegs have really good hzv so you can easily trip him for at lest 3-4 times. Unlike Barioth who’s has shitty hzv on his claws.
@@glamodrama287 Maybe, but not every monster. Thats completely wrong and it looks smaller because its played on an handheld, u have to compare ur character with the size of the monster by looking more closey on handheld.
To players that only played World: Yes the monster slower and less agile, but so is your hunter. In the end, barioth in any MH game is annoying. The guy in the vid is just good so he made it look easy
It’s worth mentioning that this Barioth is from Portable 3rd, which maxed at high rank Online. Sure, MHW is still faster on average but even MHGU Barioth gets faster and far more complex than what is portrayed here, especially in G Rank. :)
I think he's perfect, world has always felt a bit more difficult than previous games in my opinion so having monsters like this that become hard is a breath of fresh air
I think Barioth from Tri was the hardest, he had no chill and hit like a truck. Same with Barroth, he recovered sooo much faster from his charge and spammed it constantly, he was a scrub stomper.
@@wolfeinsteinzify nah, in my opinion barioth is way slower and its movement is easy to counter in World. Due to the fact that it is bigger than the older versions, the Hunter is more agile, more s, easy heal (via max potion etc. which can be gathered easily), new decoration mechanics, and there is such mechanics as clutch claw. The first time I battle it in iceborne I was surprised how easy the battle went, same with nargacuga. Amongst the three pseudo flying wyvern tigrex is the most decent fighter( I dunno why but I think it's because of my weapon class which is gs). Because if I remember correctly old barioth especially in tri always corner me to death everytime I battled it. Its speed in older version is perfect to connect combo to a hunter in getting up state.
This is one of the easy monsters, boy do you not know the suffering OG hunters experienced lol. (I'm looking at you small monsters, stupid hit boxes, unecessary animations, Plesioth)
@@eusoffammar5764 yup. I havent played tri, but in MHGU, they actually added a windbox to the hipcheck. Not to mention it can totally psych you out with its tail swipes.
Old gen: I challenge my players simply due to the limited technology and limited movement in our games World: I challenge my players by having monsters be as agile and as aggressive as they can be Iceborne: hehe unnecessary clutch claw requirements go *brrrrrrr*
I dunno, I don't think the challenge in MH3, 4, Freedom Unite, or Frontier came from limited technology. I think the fights were just really hard and well designed in their brutality.
@@metaljacket8128 it does before world manipulating ai movements is far easier since they are more limited. In world even memorizing the patterns wont make the hunt quicker since they have more short end lag moves and just jump around dragging the hunt unneccessarily
Giginox was always an awesome monster. I remember theorizing about its subspecies baleful giginox not being a true subspecies which is still my head canon to this day. Basically the theory is that baleful is just a normal giginox with a mutation that's treated like a subspecies, kind of like how black diablos is just a normal female diablos treated as a subspecies. My reason for thinking this about baleful is that unlike normal giginox, baleful never lays any eggs. If it doesn't lay eggs, then how can it be a self sustaining species without the ability to reproduce? So my head canon is that it's a mutation that leaves baleful infertile.
I almost played every mh version and until now I sometime go back to the old one just so I can kill that deferent monster in the game so seeing this and how it's bring the mh community together fill me with a good feeling. feeling make wanna go play mh3u
Never played MH3 (MHTri) but i do remember some old footage of Barioth performing Narga's wingslash instead of hipcheck. This got changed with MHP3rd and afterwards.
I never got why they did this! The hip check feels out of character. It also made him easier. I remember those day, where noobs where carting all over the place because of the Nargacuga sweep XD
I know I love mh3u music mode than world. World has good music, but for some reason 3u left me in awe more often. Ceadeus and dire miralis had god tier themes.
As someone who was introduced to the series in MH3U, i loved fighting Barioth, especially in his lair in area 6 with the elevated plateau where he quite literally bounced off the fucking walls like a child jacked on gushers c:
One of the few monsters that actually COULD utilize the environment back then.... Meanwhile in World, arena Odogaron just won't stop bouncing off the walls (I think I counted 9 in a row)...
Ive been emulating tri recently, and just finished iceborne before fighting barioth in tri. I was expecting frustration but actually had sooo much fun learning the fight with GS. Learning that most of his attacks hit forward so i could dodge into him to get behind felt absolutely cathartic.
I remember watching my older sister play tri on the wii, seeing her get to barioth and be amazed at how fast and intimidating he was, glad to see the trends continue lol.
You mean back when monsters are so easy to predict due to the lack of variety of movements the monsters used to have in the old game? No thank you I’d rather have more challenges in iceborne rather than this.
@@MegadetH666ksa lmao imagine thinking monsters have variety in world/iceborne Monster AI in iceborne and world is so easy to predict I could sleep and still win
I'm happy to have monsters be more agile and quick if it means the challenge lies more in predicting the monster than predicting the monster and the limit of your controls.
Barioth back then: Telegraph attacks, won't punish you if you roll precisely between his tail, and somehow really fun Barioth now: DASH DASH DASH, SHOULDER CHECK 5X, DASH DASH DASH
@@irvancrocs1753 He is basically on crack. It's like he had enough of the bullying and went "You know what I'am going to have the same legendaryness as my brothers." An c had shit loads of might seeds, adamant seeds, demon juice etc. And now we have the fucking king of all Barioths.
Meanwhile in iceborne New world hunter:"Can you just stop moving around so I can you hit once" Forstfang barioth:"don't mind me I am just for my arrival"
Stay away from the front and the sides. Git the tail facing it. Or face the head but be ready to dodge to the side. The Lance is great for learning monster attacks
That eating animation really gets me triggered. Your hunter's like, "Imma gobble this potion but I hafta flex my biceps like a pro." Then you got yeet-ed.
You know a lot of people say that the old MH games were harder, so me being a masochist I went and played all the psp games and 3rd I can say with certainty that they were extremely passive, aggressive playstyles were not that good or rewarding, and that's mainly because of the tanky controls you have, it's far more of a grind fest I'll give you that but patience is not something that I would consider a difficulty, it just makes things drag out too long, the arguments I usually see about old MH being harder than MHW -IB are these: * Potions - move while drinking a 7 seconds animation or drink and flex a 4.6 seconds animation, I by far prefer the old style, MHW has really active enemies that stop you from drinking or even roar or cause tremors and stop you from drinking, easier on my books you just have to not be an idiot and do it while the monster is attacking you (Kinda like estus in DS) {Also potions here are equivalent to super potions in MHW} Weapons not having more moves: I fully agree with this, not only do they lack attack options but they're also very repetitive, I despise GS and Hammer in freedom cause of that, but again dragging things out is not necessary difficulty is just the lack of patience that makes you commit errors. Avatars being heavier and sluggish: another thing that drags out the game, but is not like the monsters are super aggressive fuckers like they are in MH, they actually stay still for a lot of time in comparison of course. Finally shorcuts, UI, quick craft: yeah but no? In old MH you had to prepare before the fight while in MHW you can (At least in low and most of high rank) do it on the go with things you find in the map, also yeah navigating through a clunky menu (Hold L + circle or square to browse the menu) was a pain but you had much more time to pay attention to it than in MHW. Personally I find MHW far more difficult than old MH. New is constant action old is a lot of passiveness.
Mhp3 is a bad game to pick up to make this analysis that game is known to be criminally easy. If you wanted to compare difficulty MHFU is a better game to make these conclusions
Barioth back then: Telegraph attacks, have enough frames if you roll precisely between his tail so it won't punish you, and somehow really fun Barioth now: DASH DASH DASH, SHOULDER CHECK 5X, DASH DASH DASH
Damn, Barioth was pretty chill back then. Now he's the living embodiment of a screaming, raging 12 yr old buttonmashing like his life depended on it. Like, its moves look to be at least half the speed as World's Barioth's moves. It also looks like there's a gap between attacks too, not the neverending chain of combos we get in World. Was Barioth actually fun to face back then? Cause it actually looks relaxing compared to the screaming retard we got now. Like you could actually play casually and not hate the game.
Gotta admit, all the PSP MH titles are worth playing, Freedom 1, Unite, and Portable 3rd are all great, I'm so glad I went back and played them after playing Gen on 3ds
No. The new generation of MH for pc and consoles is like the best version yet. I don't want clutch claw In the new games in the state that it is in rn. I just can't understand why you don't want to see cool turf wars, drown in the hot springs, cultivate dope in your own house and have manageable controls and fluid combat.
Hissabr man whatever if you didn’t have 3 brain cells you would’ve know that mhw is a rein-visioning of the series, being more realistic then past generations from the games. It’s not “fake” because your a whiny baby and can’t deal with the fact that series needed to change before it stagnated.
@@diousthomas8878 Did you watch the video? Punish windows are limited, if you miss them or try to overextend you eat shit. Where you are getting "punish them as much as you want" from? Iceborne monster philosophy is have monsters jump across the entire fucking zone with zero downtime between attacks. Better clutch and wallbang them or hope that their AI pattern is favorable! Iceborne Barioth is irredeemable dogshit and you would have ahard time finding anyone that actually likes that fight.
@@personontheinternet2164 Actually a lot of people like this fight just because Barioth is hard and is now his own unique monster. Also break his wings if you don't want him to go crazy. Screw the head, go for wings for Barioth.
This is P3rd Barioth, my favorite is Tri's. I liked his two old moves even if one of them is a modified Nargacuga one, over that hipcheck. Very classic monster
@@naromaster9796 its technically denoted as his theme, like how the Deserted Isle theme is called the Lagiacrus theme in the ost even though its just the general area theme. Also, if you wanna talk about world taking away themes, I want 3U Volcano back, in GU too
My first encounter with Barioth was in Tri. My favourite monster back then to fight against. I've only just got the Barioth quest in Iceborne now, RUclips recommendations on point!
Perfect. It has a nice speed and it doesn't attack every fucking second, which gives you a chance to attack it. I hated fighting this thing in iceborne. It barely had anything openings, it threw 1000 attacks and then had a 1 second opening before doing 1000 more attacks at the speed of light.
grinding the arena quest for those guild cross weapons was hell, but eventually i sort of mastered him with solo hammer. Every monster in world has a decent counter weapon, i think.
I mean this thing is boring to fight i know But He is easy as hell.. Don't let you distract from his speed and anything, Just fight and Lose and after 3 or 4 defeats he's easy af. I mean, he's Not really that different from Tigrex or nargacuga
Barioth is why I always used DB in 3U, on top of being really fast weapons in general. But I could zoom around it and bust those wingspikes to slow it down considerably, then go right for the tusks or tail. In Iceborne it's certainly a challenge and I need to hunt more because I don't even remember what the fight is like besides that body slam it does that hurts like a bitch.
I know it’s a small detail when there are other things to miss about old Barioth, but I really miss his sound design. His roar sounded awesome and super menacing, and all of his screams added lots of, I guess “character” to the monster. Also please give me giginox in whatever MH game is next 🙏🙏
I also missed how your health and stamina bar reached the end of the screen to make it look like you're beefed. Instead in MWH we only get a quarter of the screen :(
Well, it's a new continent so bringing back the old maps is impossible. Still, they made a small tribute to it by playing a remixed version of the Tundra theme during Barioth's intro cutscene.
@HorizonCrosser 128 well I think it's the feeling because of how zone are like different types of arenas so the maps feel like they have different types of variety be it different environment hazards and mechanics or sizes. Certain monsters would also have different mechanics based on the map you fight them in aswell
I prefer this version of Barioth. The new one is way too direct, the whole point of Barioth is he tries to attack you from various angles which can throw you off, but in MH:W he just constant charges and jumps on you, and there was no reason to give him a ground slam as well, and the hitboxes are awful and is way oversized especially considering how tiny the iceborne map's arenas can be.
Nice vid! Back in the day, me and my cousin play mh 3rd in our psp’s and ending up sleeping at the middle of the night. I kinda miss those days and its really hard not like Mh world, new players we’re baby sitted.
Thus, the flame wars start once more on the difficulty comparison of Iceborne and the older games that could melt the Tundra Region along with the Hoarfrost Reach itself
I didn't even know old mh allowed for such smooth gameplay, I was under the impression it was all "jank" .I guess it's just easier to get smooth looking plays in world than in the older games...?
That was Monster Hunter Portable 3rd. Freedom Unite wasn't even jank, but it has aged meh. Though Portable Third was fucking amazing, super depressing to know it never made it to the west.
When people refer to jank is not really the gameplay is jank more to the controls and how your character moves, if you started with world probably recommend you hunt down generations ultimate for ease of access or if u do have a 3ds try out 4 ultimate
@@iansantiago7545 you can play a translated HD version on PPSSPP it runs perfectly on the worst of machines. With multiplayer too if you use lan or hamachi
This area, and theme, are so sick. Was almost hoping for it to return in World as Barioth’s soundtrack, but the Hoarfrost Reach theme is pretty great too.
@@xdredbruny2 it's named for barioth but it played in the tundra for every monster that didn't have its own theme, was never exclusive to him. which is sad, because if it was exclusive we would have had a full remake of it in iceborne instead of the little tease in his cutscene
I loved the old school barioth fight it was so rewarding you could absolutely embarrass him everytime if you knew what to do but if not it was a nightmare fight in world he is just easy
Michael Pelton - They do that? I’m actually kind of impressed they did so well keeping their roots while adding new things. You can tell these guys have respect and love for their games and community.
@@MandaloreIII Oh yeah. I think that's why some Veterans are so harsh with World players, they've just gotten defensive after all the bashing of older games. I totally agree though. Even the first monster hunter game from like, 2004 is still so similar. They really did just hone in, and polish what they had. I think that's why so many love it.
I forgot about the attack patterns and just the zone you can get into by learning the monsters. Tbh the only monster that feels like this in world is nergi, the others feel like they're just kinda wanna do their own thing.
In OG Tri, this guy, Diablos, and Rathlos(he actually had a few cheap attacks, so wasn't a total pushover) were my big three challenges in the game. I think I beat Barioth first by watching a greatsword tutorial on RUclips, which kickstarted my maining of the weapon type.
Damn, my first wall was Qurupeco and Nibelsnarf (Absolutely love this monster) cuz I didn’t know village quests was the ones I should have been doing in portable 3rd.
I am really glad to see that the monster hunter team stays so true to form. I started with mhw but looking back at these games the movesets and monsters were basically just polished and they only added to the game. The spirit slash combo got the spirit Helm breaker so you had to manage the spirit bar more and the monster's moves are similar just more aggressive and fluid I'd say
I went into Iceborne expecting to have an easy time with the Barioth because of my extensive experience with him in the third gen games (my second favorite monster). Then I proceeded to get one shot twice by a new move he didn’t have in third gen. Good times lol
that have never change to me at least evade + was bullshit overpowered in the older mh and crti méta ? no bro mh was ALWAYS crit meta need more dmg ? go crit then. and bs attack ? yes i hope so cause we have a LOT of more mobility in world than the orther tiltles
did ppl really have that much trouble with iceborne barioth when it came out? i know i was kind of prepared for what i was getting into since i had played 3U back on the 3ds and remembered most of his moves,,but overall he didnt seem as much of a pest to me than his sand variant was
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Jho showing up in world: eh it's just jho
Jho showing up in Tri: WE GOTTA GET OUTA HERE
when Deviljho was just Qurupeco's Stand
Back when Picklejho was THE God Almighty even Elder Dragons bow before him
@@iangarcia2708 well that role goes to nergigante now .... i guess
Now he's just... an average jho
I've heard arguments that New Jho is actually harder than Old Jho, but I have no experience with the older games, so can't tell if there true or not.
I’m new to the monster hunter series but looking at it now these games must have been the best of their times
They absolutely were. I can't wait to see how Rise handles monsters with the kind of speed Barioth and Nargacuga have
Begone cursed being
Yup and shame on you for not getting into the series sooner.
Go commit suduko. you bring shame on your family and ancestors
Why must you remind me of such tragedy with you profile pic
You mean you're telling me that Barioth was once a reasonable size for its speed, and that it was once possible to roll through its tail swipe without being frame perfect?
Yes Barioth used to be really easy monster to hunt. Now he is just batshit crazy.
G Hyper Barioth is my favourite fight in the series.
He was like an easy Nargacuga, evading him was so much fun
I came from mh3u and I have no problem rolling through its tail swipe in iceborne. So what's your problem?
And in case you didn't know yet, mhw is the easiest entry in the series. You are welcome.
@@wolfeinsteinzify I don't think he's "really easy monster" tbh. I find it really annoying, esp when he decide to spam flying attack.
That said, MHW barioth is easier simply due to more ways to control the monsters.
I do feel that his broken arm stagger recovery time are way faster compared to mhp3rd
Everyone out here trashing my man Barioth, when there's a Barioth on steroids called Tigrex.
Did you say "only running around with bs hitbox" Barioth
In world he is awfully easy and i dont even know why, in frontier and 3rd he kicked my ass so many times
But wait
Barioth got sick of being insulted so he went to the coldest areas in the new world to train and become stronger
And here it is frostfang barioth looking like he is several times stronger but highly reconsidering his life choices
@@tucker579 man he is the only monster that completely defeated me multiple times (now alatreon did it too) and im expecting nightmares from the frozen barrioth
Tigrex is literally a push over. His forelegs have really good hzv so you can easily trip him for at lest 3-4 times. Unlike Barioth who’s has shitty hzv on his claws.
Damn, monsters were a lot smaller then. Now they’re like twice their original size
Rajang species would like to have a word with you (^:
Well thats wrong, the barioth in the video is just a small one.
@@Someone_KhabibbeatsJonesEASILY ??? No mate, I played mh3 and Iceborne and I can easily say that barioth in Iceborne is just bigger
Agree
@@glamodrama287 Maybe, but not every monster. Thats completely wrong and it looks smaller because its played on an handheld, u have to compare ur character with the size of the monster by looking more closey on handheld.
To players that only played World:
Yes the monster slower and less agile, but so is your hunter. In the end, barioth in any MH game is annoying. The guy in the vid is just good so he made it look easy
It’s worth mentioning that this Barioth is from Portable 3rd, which maxed at high rank Online. Sure, MHW is still faster on average but even MHGU Barioth gets faster and far more complex than what is portrayed here, especially in G Rank. :)
@@Senordisastermaster the first g rank barioth is super awful when doing solo
But in World is like a special type of super-annoying 👌
@@schmebulockjizz true for frostfang, yeah
most monsters are only annoying if you ignore the lessons they teach you
I've only played world so I don't know the feeling of Barioth actually being fun to fight instead of extremely frustrating
No lol Barioth was still cancerous back then until you broke his wings. At least it was in mh3u he would typically spam obnoxiously fast hip checks.
I think he's perfect, world has always felt a bit more difficult than previous games in my opinion so having monsters like this that become hard is a breath of fresh air
Same, they are a pain in the ass
@@gianfrancoespinoza8828 world is the easiest of the monster hunters, i cant die in world and you dont have limited inventory anymore
Can I tell him about bloodbath diablos yet ??
Yeah good old days when Barioth isn't a crazy bastard jumping and flying everywhere.
He got a hold on capcoms secret monster energy stash so that's why he's the way he is in world
He was like that in 3
3rd & 3U barioth are nerfed pretty hard
He wasn’t even that tough to fight in Iceborne
GryphonNecro X20 harder than in the old games
@@Dragonlord826 I mean, they had no choice really. Look how slow this guy is here, he would get dicked on by the new LS counters.
I dunno why but i still imagining the lagombi in this place sliding like there is nothing in front of him
Except for Rajang unfortunately
The sliding rabbit lol
Ahh yes urkussis lagombi
And Zamatrios
@BigTestes Isn't he in 3U?
I think Barioth from Tri was the hardest, he had no chill and hit like a truck.
Same with Barroth, he recovered sooo much faster from his charge and spammed it constantly, he was a scrub stomper.
Thats why I have used a gunlance, ima shove my boomstick after guarding haha
Now its all piss easy and you get a difficulty spike with just the endgame elders and the dumb tempered mechanic
Nah he was actually much easier in mhp3rd. His moveset and behaviours are much easier to follow and counter. The iceborne version is batshit crazy.
@@wolfeinsteinzify nah, in my opinion barioth is way slower and its movement is easy to counter in World. Due to the fact that it is bigger than the older versions, the Hunter is more agile, more s, easy heal (via max potion etc. which can be gathered easily), new decoration mechanics, and there is such mechanics as clutch claw. The first time I battle it in iceborne I was surprised how easy the battle went, same with nargacuga. Amongst the three pseudo flying wyvern tigrex is the most decent fighter( I dunno why but I think it's because of my weapon class which is gs). Because if I remember correctly old barioth especially in tri always corner me to death everytime I battled it. Its speed in older version is perfect to connect combo to a hunter in getting up state.
@@wolfeinsteinzify he is talking about the tri version where he didn't had the hipcheck but instead the Nargacuga swipe times 3
As someone, who's never played the previous MH games, it's really weird seeing it move this slow. It's so small too.
These were the times when mh wasn't as chaotic and it actually felt rewarding, even tho it was clunky and generally slower.
Your characters movement speed and attacks are slow too so you can't tell that its easier 😂
This is one of the easy monsters, boy do you not know the suffering OG hunters experienced lol. (I'm looking at you small monsters, stupid hit boxes, unecessary animations, Plesioth)
@@iansucladen1601 Haha, I heard of Plesioth. It's the one with the stupid hipcheck hitbox, right?
@@eusoffammar5764 yup. I havent played tri, but in MHGU, they actually added a windbox to the hipcheck. Not to mention it can totally psych you out with its tail swipes.
Old gen: I challenge my players simply due to the limited technology and limited movement in our games
World: I challenge my players by having monsters be as agile and as aggressive as they can be
Iceborne: hehe unnecessary clutch claw requirements go *brrrrrrr*
I dunno, I don't think the challenge in MH3, 4, Freedom Unite, or Frontier came from limited technology. I think the fights were just really hard and well designed in their brutality.
@@metaljacket8128 ^ it's more about positioning and learning the patterns instead of focusing on reaction time like in world.
@@metaljacket8128 it does before world manipulating ai movements is far easier since they are more limited.
In world even memorizing the patterns wont make the hunt quicker since they have more short end lag moves and just jump around dragging the hunt unneccessarily
this.. just shows how cc is badly implemented
You use the clutch claw ?
Barioth in tri... so many fond memories of farming it online back in the day
he was really easy way back when
@@mekudu-man3804 not just barioth, the whole game
@@critical473 Tri was pretty hard, never managed to kill a Deviljho...
@@mekudu-man3804 i feel you..
hey im pretty new to MHP3rd and i play on ppsspp or Android are the bosses that hard?? of so can someone give me tips
back when you got rewarded for learning barioth .
Woah thats cool
For real, I recently went back too and I forgot how much cleaner the combat loop is, despite it being clunky.
Barioth in World is so fucking bad, never tripped in my 30 minute hunt, I hate the fucking thing.
ARZRer and it’s hit zones are so dumb
Yeah fuck mhw barioth
Mh3rd where i still call zinogre as jinouga
Jinouga is Japanese pronouncation for Zinogre so its just the same
Lol same jinouga is a much better name
by the way, in japanese name it is
Jin-Ou-Ga
MH3rd was when I fell in love with Zinogre. He became my Thunder Pup.
@@CR-og5ho Zinogre is still a pretty good name. The Z in his name even resemble his face
I miss my ol' pal giginox.
Yes!! No one ever speaks of him but his skills synergize so well with Narga weapons back then and it was a much more interesting fight than Khezu!
Keep praying for our leech boi return in MH6
he had the best theme of all
Farming his jaws for them dope poison weapons, and then the triple gigi quest for the armor set for kelbi bow in m3u. Good times
Giginox was always an awesome monster. I remember theorizing about its subspecies baleful giginox not being a true subspecies which is still my head canon to this day. Basically the theory is that baleful is just a normal giginox with a mutation that's treated like a subspecies, kind of like how black diablos is just a normal female diablos treated as a subspecies.
My reason for thinking this about baleful is that unlike normal giginox, baleful never lays any eggs. If it doesn't lay eggs, then how can it be a self sustaining species without the ability to reproduce? So my head canon is that it's a mutation that leaves baleful infertile.
I almost played every mh version and until now I sometime go back to the old one just so I can kill that deferent monster in the game so seeing this and how it's bring the mh community together fill me with a good feeling. feeling make wanna go play mh3u
I feels
Ma peppo è italiano?
@@sieben8724 si
Eccolo hahaha grande Spike
Remember when Barioth didn't have the hipcheck and did Nargacuga's claw swipe? Good old Vanilla Tri days...
@Deep Soul perhaps your memory is wrong. He got his hipcheck as a new move in MHP3rd
I played mh3u and barioth had always had that hipcheck. Never played mh tri tho.
Never played MH3 (MHTri) but i do remember some old footage of Barioth performing Narga's wingslash instead of hipcheck.
This got changed with MHP3rd and afterwards.
desmond lau That’s why the op said vanilla tri days
I never got why they did this! The hip check feels out of character. It also made him easier. I remember those day, where noobs where carting all over the place because of the Nargacuga sweep XD
Ahhh yes. MHP3rd. This game has my favorite Longsword DLC weapons. The Inuyasha sword and the Hero Sword (I think thats the name)
Max Max FOR REAL
Is it still possible to get these swords?
The even quests have been dumped by a couple different people online. I managed to find a translated version of all the dlc quests.
@@MaJinViDz could you provide a link to download these files and save us the hassle?
Dont forget the Metal Gear Set! That was my fave!
1:18 I forgot how good the drop for the Tundra theme on MHTri was.
MHTri’s soundtrack was incredible. ^^
I really need to go back to Tri sometime. Back to the Tundra theme, the original Lagiacrus, and my girl Gigginox.
I know I love mh3u music mode than world. World has good music, but for some reason 3u left me in awe more often. Ceadeus and dire miralis had god tier themes.
Ik I miss tri
As someone who was introduced to the series in MH3U, i loved fighting Barioth, especially in his lair in area 6 with the elevated plateau where he quite literally bounced off the fucking walls like a child jacked on gushers c:
One of the few monsters that actually COULD utilize the environment back then....
Meanwhile in World, arena Odogaron just won't stop bouncing off the walls (I think I counted 9 in a row)...
Ive been emulating tri recently, and just finished iceborne before fighting barioth in tri. I was expecting frustration but actually had sooo much fun learning the fight with GS. Learning that most of his attacks hit forward so i could dodge into him to get behind felt absolutely cathartic.
Plesioth in MH Gen Ult: 'I'll slahp yah silly yah beeg ugly feesh!'
Plesioth in MH Freedom Unite: Ah yes the phantom hip check carts me again.
I remember watching my older sister play tri on the wii, seeing her get to barioth and be amazed at how fast and intimidating he was, glad to see the trends continue lol.
Back when difficulty wasnt just setting the monster's speed to 200% so patience actually paid off
You mean back when monsters are so easy to predict due to the lack of variety of movements the monsters used to have in the old game? No thank you I’d rather have more challenges in iceborne rather than this.
@@MegadetH666ksa lmao imagine thinking monsters have variety in world/iceborne
Monster AI in iceborne and world is so easy to predict I could sleep and still win
I'm happy to have monsters be more agile and quick if it means the challenge lies more in predicting the monster than predicting the monster and the limit of your controls.
@FullTimeSlacker clutch claw is your friend in theory, but not in practice.
@@Arun_7 no, it's just your friend lol
Ah, when difficulty wasn't just aoe spam and you didn't have to yolo a tenderize, good times.
Barioth back then:
Telegraph attacks, won't punish you if you roll precisely between his tail, and somehow really fun
Barioth now:
DASH DASH DASH, SHOULDER CHECK 5X, DASH DASH DASH
@@irvancrocs1753 He is basically on crack.
It's like he had enough of the bullying and went "You know what I'am going to have the same legendaryness as my brothers." An c had shit loads of might seeds, adamant seeds, demon juice etc. And now we have the fucking king of all Barioths.
Back when monsters ganged up on you and when controls were as broken as a dude from Arkham Asylum.
Yes...
@Tesla defending the clutch claw, what a joke you are.
Meanwhile in iceborne
New world hunter:"Can you just stop moving around so I can you hit once"
Forstfang barioth:"don't mind me I am just for my arrival"
Yes, especially if a great baggi comes to sleep while you fight it.
Peppo : *Killed HR Barioth in 6 minute
Meanwhile : i can't kill goddamn low rank Royal Ludroth under 10 minutes
What-
:l
Gotta need an explanation for this...
Broken Hitbox? Too much health?
We've all began like you
Stay away from the front and the sides. Git the tail facing it. Or face the head but be ready to dodge to the side. The Lance is great for learning monster attacks
If you play careful and win, it's still a win. No reason to feel bad about it
That eating animation really gets me triggered.
Your hunter's like, "Imma gobble this potion but I hafta flex my biceps like a pro."
Then you got yeet-ed.
Flex to assert your dominance
Even though I did hated that animation. It was a weird flex lol
Idk, I liked it personally, it was one of the fun thing that made monster hunter, well, monster hunter
MHW just looks extremely generic and boring
@@waselu7578 lol ok
@DawnWatch it doesnt have the same charm as the old games tho. Older monhun games were goofy and world feels dry at times
I really miss that fight ost, it's introduction in Iceborne just teased this old ost :(
IKR I was hoping this was his theme.
@@dinorex3464 same.
I sure do, even fighting him in gu he feels changed from tri
You know a lot of people say that the old MH games were harder, so me being a masochist I went and played all the psp games and 3rd I can say with certainty that they were extremely passive, aggressive playstyles were not that good or rewarding, and that's mainly because of the tanky controls you have, it's far more of a grind fest I'll give you that but patience is not something that I would consider a difficulty, it just makes things drag out too long, the arguments I usually see about old MH being harder than MHW -IB are these:
* Potions - move while drinking a 7 seconds animation or drink and flex a 4.6 seconds animation, I by far prefer the old style, MHW has really active enemies that stop you from drinking or even roar or cause tremors and stop you from drinking, easier on my books you just have to not be an idiot and do it while the monster is attacking you (Kinda like estus in DS) {Also potions here are equivalent to super potions in MHW}
Weapons not having more moves: I fully agree with this, not only do they lack attack options but they're also very repetitive, I despise GS and Hammer in freedom cause of that, but again dragging things out is not necessary difficulty is just the lack of patience that makes you commit errors.
Avatars being heavier and sluggish: another thing that drags out the game, but is not like the monsters are super aggressive fuckers like they are in MH, they actually stay still for a lot of time in comparison of course.
Finally shorcuts, UI, quick craft: yeah but no? In old MH you had to prepare before the fight while in MHW you can (At least in low and most of high rank) do it on the go with things you find in the map, also yeah navigating through a clunky menu (Hold L + circle or square to browse the menu) was a pain but you had much more time to pay attention to it than in MHW.
Personally I find MHW far more difficult than old MH. New is constant action old is a lot of passiveness.
Mhp3 is a bad game to pick up to make this analysis that game is known to be criminally easy. If you wanted to compare difficulty MHFU is a better game to make these conclusions
@@gatebreaker44 Freedom unite is included in "All the PSP MH games"
@@adrianrenard1262 oh I missed that part. I personally found monsters like G level plessi unplayable so I remember it being harder as a game overall
@@gatebreaker44 try it again, specially after playing MR in iceborn and then see if it feels easier than in the past
The only people who say the old ones are harder are oldheads that refuse to move on lmao
This video alone brought back old memories with other great monsters that weren't added to mhw iceborne... yet
I love the last spirit slash hit animation in mhp3rd, the way the camera stays there, it looks sixk
Barioth back then:
Telegraph attacks, have enough frames if you roll precisely between his tail so it won't punish you, and somehow really fun
Barioth now:
DASH DASH DASH, SHOULDER CHECK 5X, DASH DASH DASH
I mean he got bullied by the community of how he was a bitch compared to the other two and went fuck you in Iceborne.
I fell bad for not being able to finish MHFU and MHP3RD. But thanks for uploading this Sensei. I really miss the Old World.
0:45 so satisfying
Had It been Tri/3U/3G, It would have hit Dx
Evade +2 son
Yeeees i think of this so much. Its amazing how much fun tri was with so little content
tri-のベリオがモーションも1番激しかったんだけど、アイスボーン でモーションも復活&追加されててより強くなって帰ってきたイメージ。…割と当たらんけど
そうなのですか！
ではナルガクルガの飛びかかりは
やってきますか？
バルファルクの龍気
やってこないね 全体的に動きが大きくなったイメージ
ナルガに慣れすぎると動きがもっさりし過ぎてて逆に戦い辛い…特に尻尾の振り回しがタイミング狂ってしまう笑
Whut?
@@Evolt2017 ナルガは逆に遅くなったね
Damn, Barioth was pretty chill back then.
Now he's the living embodiment of a screaming, raging 12 yr old buttonmashing like his life depended on it.
Like, its moves look to be at least half the speed as World's Barioth's moves.
It also looks like there's a gap between attacks too, not the neverending chain of combos we get in World.
Was Barioth actually fun to face back then?
Cause it actually looks relaxing compared to the screaming retard we got now.
Like you could actually play casually and not hate the game.
Yes he was fun back then.
Who remembers the inuyasha Longsword?
Tessaiga XD
Tenebra in the west thou
Great LS for low to early high rank, too bad it has no element
@@Lethal_Dankness Tenebra? O_o
Are you saying that was Inuyasha's Longsword?
[or wait, Is that Tenebra the same one you get In MH3?]
mhfu mhp3rd introduced me to the series so i love seeing these videos
Old gen are old gen. MH for psp is perfect
Gotta admit, all the PSP MH titles are worth playing, Freedom 1, Unite, and Portable 3rd are all great, I'm so glad I went back and played them after playing Gen on 3ds
End on PPSSPP with XBOX ONE controller is the perfection
No. The new generation of MH for pc and consoles is like the best version yet. I don't want clutch claw In the new games in the state that it is in rn. I just can't understand why you don't want to see cool turf wars, drown in the hot springs, cultivate dope in your own house and have manageable controls and fluid combat.
@@jg45631 freedom 1 you mean those bulfango fur fest? Hell no those one are annoying as hell
@@anonymousstout4759 Freedom 1 is a fun game if you murder the small monsters first lol, but quests like Heat Exaustion can burn in a pit of fire
Man 😅 I forgot about the flexing after drinking/eating everything, that used to be hilarious lol
Side effect of playing that fake MHW for too long lol
@@NostaleFreak96 the only side effect I'm getting is wanting to give you a smooch cutie 😘
Well many people can't play world still playing mhxx, include me. Flexing everyday.
Hissabr man whatever if you didn’t have 3 brain cells you would’ve know that mhw is a rein-visioning of the series, being more realistic then past generations from the games. It’s not “fake” because your a whiny baby and can’t deal with the fact that series needed to change before it stagnated.
@@NostaleFreak96 Do you feel mighty Mr. Gatekeeper?
Oh look, actual openings and when the monsters decided to remain in range for you to punish said openings.
When you could punish them as much as you want without worrying one bit instead in World where they will bite you in the fucking ass if you do that.
@@diousthomas8878 Did you watch the video? Punish windows are limited, if you miss them or try to overextend you eat shit. Where you are getting "punish them as much as you want" from?
Iceborne monster philosophy is have monsters jump across the entire fucking zone with zero downtime between attacks. Better clutch and wallbang them or hope that their AI pattern is favorable! Iceborne Barioth is irredeemable dogshit and you would have ahard time finding anyone that actually likes that fight.
@@personontheinternet2164
100% accurate. It also has infinite stamina and never fucking trips.
@@diousthomas8878
Are you referring to Rajang? If so, then I completely agree.
@@personontheinternet2164 Actually a lot of people like this fight just because Barioth is hard and is now his own unique monster.
Also break his wings if you don't want him to go crazy.
Screw the head, go for wings for Barioth.
How can i forget , omg the nostalgia of being sighted by a monster and your hunter getting scared lowkey to let you know shits bouta go down haha
Old Barioth: old fight that rewards learning dodge patterns
Iceborne Barioth: *on crack laced with speed*
One of the best themes in all the MH Series. Is that Tundra theme of battle. Combines perfectly with Barioth and Gigginox
The tundra theme was originally made for Barioth.
Still playing ✌
Same bro
This is P3rd Barioth, my favorite is Tri's. I liked his two old moves even if one of them is a modified Nargacuga one, over that hipcheck. Very classic monster
aaah..that old armor skill system..never get tired of it
学生時代の頃だったな〜その頃ハマりすぎて親にバレないように布団に隠れてやってたな。
The biggest crime of world is taking away barioth's theme
He never had a theme
@@naromaster9796 ik but tundra was so well suited to it
@@naromaster9796 its technically denoted as his theme, like how the Deserted Isle theme is called the Lagiacrus theme in the ost even though its just the general area theme. Also, if you wanna talk about world taking away themes, I want 3U Volcano back, in GU too
@@naromaster9796 Theme is literally named Sub zero white knight
@@gamechanger8908 thank you someone gets it. Barioth is literally called that in game. Naro Master has just never played 3 huh
My first encounter with Barioth was in Tri. My favourite monster back then to fight against. I've only just got the Barioth quest in Iceborne now, RUclips recommendations on point!
Perfect. It has a nice speed and it doesn't attack every fucking second, which gives you a chance to attack it. I hated fighting this thing in iceborne. It barely had anything openings, it threw 1000 attacks and then had a 1 second opening before doing 1000 more attacks at the speed of light.
grinding the arena quest for those guild cross weapons was hell, but eventually i sort of mastered him with solo hammer. Every monster in world has a decent counter weapon, i think.
@@MisterJunichi nah fam. just skill and good natural reaction time knowing it's patterns well.
I mean this thing is boring to fight i know But He is easy as hell.. Don't let you distract from his speed and anything, Just fight and Lose and after 3 or 4 defeats he's easy af. I mean, he's Not really that different from Tigrex or nargacuga
Barioth is why I always used DB in 3U, on top of being really fast weapons in general. But I could zoom around it and bust those wingspikes to slow it down considerably, then go right for the tusks or tail. In Iceborne it's certainly a challenge and I need to hunt more because I don't even remember what the fight is like besides that body slam it does that hurts like a bitch.
@@thisaintit9025 I must say barioth was way harder then nargacuga or tigrex. I play mh for the first time mhw iceborne
How could I forget the simpler times
I know it’s a small detail when there are other things to miss about old Barioth, but I really miss his sound design. His roar sounded awesome and super menacing, and all of his screams added lots of, I guess “character” to the monster. Also please give me giginox in whatever MH game is next 🙏🙏
Bari was my favorite monster in the past and its still one of my favorite in iceborne (love the frostfang too :D)
I also missed how your health and stamina bar reached the end of the screen to make it look like you're beefed. Instead in MWH we only get a quarter of the screen :(
Having it occupy the entire TV/PC screen would be annoying, don't you think?
@@alexandrucalciu4806 no its not.
Try playing GU on dock mode
3rdのクリア後の音楽マジで好き
アマツの時音楽が壮大になってて鳥肌たったの覚えてる
I actually though they were going to bring this region back, but instead they made hoarfrost. Kinda miss the old one, it felt more open.
Ah the ice flatlands ive had many loading in it
Mhw is in the new world, not old world
Well, it's a new continent so bringing back the old maps is impossible.
Still, they made a small tribute to it by playing a remixed version of the Tundra theme during Barioth's intro cutscene.
It's the New World, not the Old World. What, are they supposed to saw it off the Old World and throw it into the sea in the New World?
@HorizonCrosser 128 well I think it's the feeling because of how zone are like different types of arenas so the maps feel like they have different types of variety be it different environment hazards and mechanics or sizes. Certain monsters would also have different mechanics based on the map you fight them in aswell
I prefer this version of Barioth. The new one is way too direct, the whole point of Barioth is he tries to attack you from various angles which can throw you off, but in MH:W he just constant charges and jumps on you, and there was no reason to give him a ground slam as well, and the hitboxes are awful and is way oversized especially considering how tiny the iceborne map's arenas can be.
Yeah, bought Iceborne yesterday, was thinking "yeah I could beat him on PSP, this should be fine" then proceeded to get my ass handed to me
It's great to know they put old monsters in Master ranks. Capcom gave respect to prequel monsters. Well of course except for the rath siblings XD
@@TheAilmam WDYM?
This was me as well, except Im still scared shitless of tigrex, and they made him more unpredictable in iceborne. Fuck that thing
@@Dokledee I actually found Tigrex easier than Barioth. I'd just dodge out of the way of his triple charge and plant bombs along the way.
Except he wasn't on psp
Oh man, the game that i got into the saga, Portable 3rd always in my heart🥺
もはやウカム装備も懐かしい
Same... easily the best starting gear. Same with the village too
Look at how he sits in one spot and attacks before moving- what a class act
Tri was arguably the best MH title to come out. I also really like Generations Ultimate, that's a solid game!
Thank you for reminding me about Barioth, and to the Monster Hunter Portable 3rd in general. Damn, I miss this game
きじんだいかいてんぎりの音がたまらん笑
Nice vid! Back in the day, me and my cousin play mh 3rd in our psp’s and ending up sleeping at the middle of the night. I kinda miss those days and its really hard not like Mh world, new players we’re baby sitted.
この頃は地上メインで戦いやすかったのに今のこいつときたら...
今も地上メインなんだよなぁ
Thus, the flame wars start once more on the difficulty comparison of Iceborne and the older games that could melt the Tundra Region along with the Hoarfrost Reach itself
Your profile Pic lel xD
I didn't even know old mh allowed for such smooth gameplay, I was under the impression it was all "jank" .I guess it's just easier to get smooth looking plays in world than in the older games...?
That was Monster Hunter Portable 3rd. Freedom Unite wasn't even jank, but it has aged meh. Though Portable Third was fucking amazing, super depressing to know it never made it to the west.
When people refer to jank is not really the gameplay is jank more to the controls and how your character moves, if you started with world probably recommend you hunt down generations ultimate for ease of access or if u do have a 3ds try out 4 ultimate
Idk man, I've seen beautiful long sword users work wonders with counters against the barioth..
@@iansantiago7545 you can play a translated HD version on PPSSPP it runs perfectly on the worst of machines. With multiplayer too if you use lan or hamachi
This area, and theme, are so sick. Was almost hoping for it to return in World as Barioth’s soundtrack, but the Hoarfrost Reach theme is pretty great too.
I mean, I care less about the "downgrade" of barioth,
And more about that classic Tundra theme. Epic.
That's actually the Barioth exclusive theme "Sub-Zero, White Knight
@@xdredbruny2 it's named for barioth but it played in the tundra for every monster that didn't have its own theme, was never exclusive to him. which is sad, because if it was exclusive we would have had a full remake of it in iceborne instead of the little tease in his cutscene
@@JolloFan OH shit, that sucks then, I always thought it was for Barioth only... But now that you mention it, Gigginox did use this as well...
I loved the old school barioth fight it was so rewarding you could absolutely embarrass him everytime if you knew what to do but if not it was a nightmare fight in world he is just easy
Ah yes, when there was blood in mh
I can’t believe I never notice they took out blood
at least there's mods on pc that fixes that
I’ve never played the old MHs but it’s crazy seeing how similar everything is.
Honestly hurts me when newer players trash the older games, specifically because of how similar they are.
Michael Pelton - They do that? I’m actually kind of impressed they did so well keeping their roots while adding new things. You can tell these guys have respect and love for their games and community.
@@MandaloreIII Oh yeah. I think that's why some Veterans are so harsh with World players, they've just gotten defensive after all the bashing of older games.
I totally agree though. Even the first monster hunter game from like, 2004 is still so similar. They really did just hone in, and polish what they had. I think that's why so many love it.
Michael Pelton Its pretty damn cool to see
God, THESE were the days. No disrespect to world, it's an amazing game, but this is just... Nostalgic.
I forgot about the attack patterns and just the zone you can get into by learning the monsters.
Tbh the only monster that feels like this in world is nergi, the others feel like they're just kinda wanna do their own thing.
棘が出なすぎて何頭の腕を破壊してきたか…
亜種の群青色の牙だっけか..........
値段高かったから売る遊びしてたら３３個ぐらい全部売っちまった.........
In OG Tri, this guy, Diablos, and Rathlos(he actually had a few cheap attacks, so wasn't a total pushover) were my big three challenges in the game. I think I beat Barioth first by watching a greatsword tutorial on RUclips, which kickstarted my maining of the weapon type.
Damn, my first wall was Qurupeco and Nibelsnarf (Absolutely love this monster) cuz I didn’t know village quests was the ones I should have been doing in portable 3rd.
The title made me really sad for some reason
I am really glad to see that the monster hunter team stays so true to form. I started with mhw but looking back at these games the movesets and monsters were basically just polished and they only added to the game. The spirit slash combo got the spirit Helm breaker so you had to manage the spirit bar more and the monster's moves are similar just more aggressive and fluid I'd say
零下の白騎士は神曲
異論は認めない
当たり前だよなぁ
モンハンのBGMで神曲じゃないものは無い
はっきしわかんだね
バルファルクの龍気 フルフルとかな
@@りんごおいうえお まじな話、無音がBGMっていうのはいいと思ってます。フルフルの異質な感じが出てて。
But have you ever heard the 'Sand Barioth'?
Felyne: "That's not the worm. That's it's tongue."
MH World stands over MH3rd
Hunter: "Oh..."
Sand Barioth is far more dangerous than the original imo. Especially since he can throw himself out of a giant sand tornado right on top of you.
この時代は太刀で火事場使えばハメれて楽しい
Remember guys this is only high rank barioth, the one we got in Iceborne is master rank/G rank only.
Old barioth > new barioth
Old barioth < new barioth
Fax 📠
@@XzeonOfficial indeed
I went into Iceborne expecting to have an easy time with the Barioth because of my extensive experience with him in the third gen games (my second favorite monster). Then I proceeded to get one shot twice by a new move he didn’t have in third gen. Good times lol
MHWIでベリオ出た時、こんな飛び回ってたっけ？？と疑問だったけど、やっぱ昔のは地上主体だよね
なんか、硬いわ飛ぶわ跳ね回るわでバフバロの次くらいに嫌い
yes true
騎士通り越して姑息
Good old Barioth! Favourite monster and armor love the evade+ skill. Now It’s just crit meta and big ass monsters with BS Attack. Miss you old MH
Same. But you can play MHGU.
that have never change to me at least evade + was bullshit overpowered in the older mh and crti méta ? no bro mh was ALWAYS crit meta need more dmg ? go crit then. and bs attack ? yes i hope so cause we have a LOT of more mobility in world than the orther tiltles
そもそもの話そのマップ自体懐かしい
did ppl really have that much trouble with iceborne barioth when it came out? i know i was kind of prepared for what i was getting into since i had played 3U back on the 3ds and remembered most of his moves,,but overall he didnt seem as much of a pest to me than his sand variant was
Lmao. Imagine arzuros in mhw Iceborne
I truly miss this game