I had a Honda Fit years ago and I absolutely loved that car. That little 1.5 was quick, nimble and practical...and super fun to drive with the manual. It is the perfect first car for a teenager AND the perfect daily driver for a working stiff. Loved it!
Just finished washing Northeast grime and debris and reattached a mud flap on my turbo Mazda3. A little backroad rally loaded up with the brothers and a hatch full of presents to make it home for the holidays in time. Handled it like a champ. The car, that is, the brother sitting in back couldn't see anything and was vocal about how twisty the roads were. Right up until we found out the parents' driveway sank another inch over the year and it nailed the mud flap at just the right angle to where it didn't bend 😂
Great collab and a solid list. However, the roads in my area are absolutely bombed out, so I went with a Forester and a Crosstrek instead of the Honda and Mazda options. Modern Subarus have absolutely nailed the ride/handling compromise.
Oh I would love an Integra type R too, but there is only one in my area and it’s $59,990 and it already has 3000 miles. Insane! I got a WRX and for me it’s just like how the older ones were described. Raw and hardcore. I am sure that helps that I came from an Outback. I can’t imagine to daly drive an even more raw and punishing car! Sometimes, after work, when I am tired, I still miss the Outback. Ha. ( if I wouldn’t need the 4 doors, I would have a BRZ/ GR86 ) An interesting fact, the Honda Fit is a very popular family car in Eastern Europe, called Honda Jazz. It’s super reliable, has good mpg, and pretty spacious for its size. And finally Happy New Year ! 🎉
I believe slower shifting on civic Si isn’t caused by a delay valve it’s most likely caused by rev hang which is an improvement from the previous generation
The three cars I really want to see sooner rather than later would be a Crosstrek WRX, Mazda 3 Hybrid, and CX-30 Hybrid. All three would be cars I'd be willing to trade my GR86 for. I love the GR86, it's just difficult to live with as my only car all year round, especially during the winter.
All I want for 2024 and beyond is for stealerships to be abolished and turned into service centers. I'm so tired of all the shenanigans like markups associated with buying a car. It's going to be 2024 and both of the Mazda stealerships within 100 miles of me are still doing markups for every new car
I finally bought a 2024 MZ3 HB Turbo a month ago after wanting one since they came out. I PPFd the front to help protect from rock chips. Besides that Ive just been enjoying the ride. I had a 2016 CX5 which was a solid CUV, but man, the new 3 is such a gorgeous car and feels so nice to drive. I actually look forward to driving it!
I suggested a CX-5 to a friend of mine who is looking to replace their 2013 Focus. The CX-5 is pretty much what they are looking for. Not exciting, but it is safe, reliable, and should last 10+ years if maintained.
Biggest disappointment for 2024 already is the new Crown Signia. Idk why Toyota is bringing the Signia/Estate to the US instead of the absolutely drop dead gorgeous Crown Sport. Best Toyota design to date and honestly if they're never going to bring the Crown Sport, I want Toyota to make a Prius Cross or Corolla Cross redesign that looks exactly like the Crown Sport but smaller and lower starting price around $30k.
The new wrx is better than the older ones in every way. Better chassis, better engine tuning, better suspension, etc. brakes are bad for track use. Saying the older wrx is better because they are worse is a strange take.
Fun video to watch. I would have enjoyed doing this with you! 🤣 Here are some comments I would throw in. 1. Compact Car - Mazda 3 is a good choice but the C pillar on the hatchback is just odd to me, the sedan looks better. 2. Midsize Car - My voice would be the Camry XSE Hybrid or TRD mode. Not a fan of the looks of the Honda and Honda seems to be having more issues in recent years. I don't care for the Subaru at all, never been a Subaru fan. 3. Sub $40k Daily - Prius/Prius Prime, such great cars and now they look great and have plenty of power, 4. $30k Sport Compact - I like your choices but isn't the Civic Si classified as a large car? And the looks of the WRX, yuck! I also didn't like the huge screen that so many things were controlled through. GTI is great in every way but VW reliability is terrible. 5. Sport Compact Under $50k - Hands down the GR Corolla. I'm biased as I bought one but the Integra Type S would cost $10-$20k more and it delivers less in my book. I will take the AWD and real hand brake, plus a true hot hatch of a bloated ITS or CTR. Plus you will be paying $55-$60k for the ITS so that's way over the $50k point. I paid under $40k for my loaded Core GRC and it's fantastic. I also think it's a lot more fun to drive than the FWD ITS/CTR cousins. And in these winter months they couldn't keep up with my GRC if they tried. 6. Sub Compact SUV - Corolla Cross Hybrid, not even close in my book. 7. Compact SUV - RAV4 Prime, no contest. 8. Midsize SUV - Can't go wrong with a 4 Runner. But a Jeep? They are a complete POS these days. 9. 3-row SUV - Kia Telluride, the Mazda CX-90 is also a good choice but if I needed 3 rows I'm buying a Toyota Sienna. Nothing moves people better, it looks great, easier to get in and out, has more room and get 35mpg. 10. Sports Car - GR86, I like the Miata but I just don't fit well in them and find them uncomfortable. 11. Dream Car - Most any 911 as long as it's a manual. That looks so boring driving a PDK, it might be quicker but it lacks character and driver engagement. I would take the LFA over it but since that's not even built anymore.... 12. Under $10k Used Car - The Honda Fit is excellent as is the 2004-06 Scion xB, it more fun than people know and the space is cavernous. Thanks for letting me play. 🤣🤣🤣
Interesting review. I'm going to focus on Subcompact Crossovers, because that is what I am currently driving (2022 Kona Limited FWD) and will lease again next year when I need another vehicle. I sat today in a 2024 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (top trim, ICE) and loved it! I'm also looking at the 2024 Corolla Cross Hybrid XSE (again, top trim) and curious if I will agree that for the same $34,000 as a Kona top trim, the Toyota interior is "cheap". Both have hard plastics, but that Kona interior looks like you're driving a Millennium Falcon (almost). As I haven't seen a CC Hybrid in person yet, the jury is still out whether going hybrid is worth it for me, as I don't drive a whole lot anymore.
One criticism here: NO mention of brand new $20k or less subcompact sedan. Not even the Versa? That’s disappointing. It almost like it not important for them to cover that segment while there are folks who just need a mere basic transportation with a warranty at that price point as opposed to taking chance of used car with unknown history. Heck if they discussed best $10k used car, why didn’t they do the same for brand new subcompact cars in America? Not counting the SUV.
Because this was already the longest video I have ever made. I have other videos that discuss the best value options from 10-30k used and for new cars too.
In 2023/2024 you might think the hybrid is the better option, but practically the Korean and Japanese hybrids are impossible to find at a dealer. Moreover, the car we do get after 12 months of waiting is marked up to almost illegal levels. Great video, but hybrids are not really giving anyone any advantage.
Those have started to come down! It’s still more difficult than it should be but Ive watched one of my local dealers drop their markups on just about everything. Im hoping this trend continues out to the east and west coast which almost lives in a different reality🙃
It's quite noisy at highway speeds, not deafening but I tested it with the RF, not the soft top. It's not bad enough to prevent me from buying one, but if that's a concern for you, definitely test drive it because she is no lexus!
@@Realistick thanks for the reply ! I had a 2016 mustang convertible with an aftermarket windscreen that cut out 80% of wind in the cockpit that was great, until it got too hot, then drop the ws and voila, nice refreshing breeze.
@@shredofmalarchi I have not, unfortunately, but driving on both were awesome! It’s definitely worth the drive from indiana to attend a track day for so I do want to go back sometime!
It’s quite literally just a corolla hatch with a widebody kit, i get why some may not like it but it’s not that offensive. To each their own I suppose🧑🦯
For me: 30k sports car = gr86 50k car = s3 Subcompact suv = cx30 Compact SUV = cx5 Mid suv = bronco/pilot Gt car 911 4 Dream car 458 Way too many Toyotas in your list. The 4runner is such a terrible car. I've had one and I hated it.
Man I just genuinely love hearing two guys sit in a car and talk about their favorite cars
A slightly used 2022 or newer WRX is huge value around 25k, it checks every box year round with tons of potential
I had a Honda Fit years ago and I absolutely loved that car. That little 1.5 was quick, nimble and practical...and super fun to drive with the manual. It is the perfect first car for a teenager AND the perfect daily driver for a working stiff. Loved it!
truly an awesome car, seems to be generally loved by anyone that is has actually owned or lived with one!
Love Mazda. I enjoy your individual channels. I enjoy when you two host together, too. Thanks.
Just finished washing Northeast grime and debris and reattached a mud flap on my turbo Mazda3. A little backroad rally loaded up with the brothers and a hatch full of presents to make it home for the holidays in time. Handled it like a champ.
The car, that is, the brother sitting in back couldn't see anything and was vocal about how twisty the roads were.
Right up until we found out the parents' driveway sank another inch over the year and it nailed the mud flap at just the right angle to where it didn't bend 😂
Great collab and a solid list.
However, the roads in my area are absolutely bombed out, so I went with a Forester and a Crosstrek instead of the Honda and Mazda options. Modern Subarus have absolutely nailed the ride/handling compromise.
Thanks, Subaru is still the champ over ignored roads!
love when my fav channels collab
Great video! I'm SO glad I got the experience the LC500 Convertible for a week. By far my favorite overall experience of the year.
It truly is an experience to drive one, happy you got to indulge with it too!
3 way battle next year??
@@ShootingCars Heck yeah! I guarantee that I would have some differing opinions. 😉
*chevy has entered the chat
Oh I would love an Integra type R too, but there is only one in my area and it’s $59,990 and it already has 3000 miles. Insane! I got a WRX and for me it’s just like how the older ones were described. Raw and hardcore. I am sure that helps that I came from an Outback. I can’t imagine to daly drive an even more raw and punishing car! Sometimes, after work, when I am tired, I still miss the Outback. Ha. ( if I wouldn’t need the 4 doors, I would have a BRZ/ GR86 )
An interesting fact, the Honda Fit is a very popular family car in Eastern Europe, called Honda Jazz. It’s super reliable, has good mpg, and pretty spacious for its size.
And finally Happy New Year ! 🎉
I believe slower shifting on civic Si isn’t caused by a delay valve it’s most likely caused by rev hang which is an improvement from the previous generation
That was a fun video to watch, thanks! You two have a great chemistry and should definitely do more collabs.
The three cars I really want to see sooner rather than later would be a Crosstrek WRX, Mazda 3 Hybrid, and CX-30 Hybrid. All three would be cars I'd be willing to trade my GR86 for. I love the GR86, it's just difficult to live with as my only car all year round, especially during the winter.
Really enjoyed the energy in this “best cars debate”. Great picks too! 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Liked the CRV hybrid but I can't get over the lack of a spare tire!
It's really unfortunate! Especially since there is still some space beneath the floor and the 1.5 does get it!
Love the channel! Coming from an owner of an 11th gen Si, it does really well in snow up here in Canada! Just need some snow tires :)
All I want for 2024 and beyond is for stealerships to be abolished and turned into service centers. I'm so tired of all the shenanigans like markups associated with buying a car. It's going to be 2024 and both of the Mazda stealerships within 100 miles of me are still doing markups for every new car
💯👍
I finally bought a 2024 MZ3 HB Turbo a month ago after wanting one since they came out. I PPFd the front to help protect from rock chips. Besides that Ive just been enjoying the ride. I had a 2016 CX5 which was a solid CUV, but man, the new 3 is such a gorgeous car and feels so nice to drive. I actually look forward to driving it!
Fun video guys
thanks!
You two are great. Keep up the great work both of you
Love this… keep these coming.
The other guy has a lot of scope for stand up
I suggested a CX-5 to a friend of mine who is looking to replace their 2013 Focus. The CX-5 is pretty much what they are looking for. Not exciting, but it is safe, reliable, and should last 10+ years if maintained.
Great video Guys!!!
Thanks for watching!
Biggest disappointment for 2024 already is the new Crown Signia. Idk why Toyota is bringing the Signia/Estate to the US instead of the absolutely drop dead gorgeous Crown Sport. Best Toyota design to date and honestly if they're never going to bring the Crown Sport, I want Toyota to make a Prius Cross or Corolla Cross redesign that looks exactly like the Crown Sport but smaller and lower starting price around $30k.
For winter conditions. What would you recomend?
Subbed 😊
The new wrx is better than the older ones in every way. Better chassis, better engine tuning, better suspension, etc. brakes are bad for track use. Saying the older wrx is better because they are worse is a strange take.
Fun video to watch. I would have enjoyed doing this with you! 🤣 Here are some comments I would throw in.
1. Compact Car - Mazda 3 is a good choice but the C pillar on the hatchback is just odd to me, the sedan looks better.
2. Midsize Car - My voice would be the Camry XSE Hybrid or TRD mode. Not a fan of the looks of the Honda and Honda seems to be having more issues in recent years. I don't care for the Subaru at all, never been a Subaru fan.
3. Sub $40k Daily - Prius/Prius Prime, such great cars and now they look great and have plenty of power,
4. $30k Sport Compact - I like your choices but isn't the Civic Si classified as a large car? And the looks of the WRX, yuck! I also didn't like the huge screen that so many things were controlled through. GTI is great in every way but VW reliability is terrible.
5. Sport Compact Under $50k - Hands down the GR Corolla. I'm biased as I bought one but the Integra Type S would cost $10-$20k more and it delivers less in my book. I will take the AWD and real hand brake, plus a true hot hatch of a bloated ITS or CTR. Plus you will be paying $55-$60k for the ITS so that's way over the $50k point. I paid under $40k for my loaded Core GRC and it's fantastic. I also think it's a lot more fun to drive than the FWD ITS/CTR cousins. And in these winter months they couldn't keep up with my GRC if they tried.
6. Sub Compact SUV - Corolla Cross Hybrid, not even close in my book.
7. Compact SUV - RAV4 Prime, no contest.
8. Midsize SUV - Can't go wrong with a 4 Runner. But a Jeep? They are a complete POS these days.
9. 3-row SUV - Kia Telluride, the Mazda CX-90 is also a good choice but if I needed 3 rows I'm buying a Toyota Sienna. Nothing moves people better, it looks great, easier to get in and out, has more room and get 35mpg.
10. Sports Car - GR86, I like the Miata but I just don't fit well in them and find them uncomfortable.
11. Dream Car - Most any 911 as long as it's a manual. That looks so boring driving a PDK, it might be quicker but it lacks character and driver engagement. I would take the LFA over it but since that's not even built anymore....
12. Under $10k Used Car - The Honda Fit is excellent as is the 2004-06 Scion xB, it more fun than people know and the space is cavernous.
Thanks for letting me play. 🤣🤣🤣
damn gym bro vs anime weeb
Kinda also fits both vehicles in a weird way.
Interesting review. I'm going to focus on Subcompact Crossovers, because that is what I am currently driving (2022 Kona Limited FWD) and will lease again next year when I need another vehicle. I sat today in a 2024 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (top trim, ICE) and loved it! I'm also looking at the 2024 Corolla Cross Hybrid XSE (again, top trim) and curious if I will agree that for the same $34,000 as a Kona top trim, the Toyota interior is "cheap". Both have hard plastics, but that Kona interior looks like you're driving a Millennium Falcon (almost). As I haven't seen a CC Hybrid in person yet, the jury is still out whether going hybrid is worth it for me, as I don't drive a whole lot anymore.
such an enjoyable vid, collab more!
Will do!
One criticism here:
NO mention of brand new $20k or less subcompact sedan. Not even the Versa? That’s disappointing.
It almost like it not important for them to cover that segment while there are folks who just need a mere basic transportation with a warranty at that price point as opposed to taking chance of used car with unknown history.
Heck if they discussed best $10k used car, why didn’t they do the same for brand new subcompact cars in America? Not counting the SUV.
Because this was already the longest video I have ever made. I have other videos that discuss the best value options from 10-30k used and for new cars too.
Great video, new to your channel. Just subscribed
Mazda3 over the Golf?
We don't get the golf here! Just the GTI now
Agree - CX5 seats are NOT good. Everything else is GREAT.
@realistick would you rather, new WRX, 5 year old Porsche Macan/Cayenne S, or CRV and let fun die??
Need AWD, 2 kids, like fun,
great video!
In 2023/2024 you might think the hybrid is the better option, but practically the Korean and Japanese hybrids are impossible to find at a dealer. Moreover, the car we do get after 12 months of waiting is marked up to almost illegal levels. Great video, but hybrids are not really giving anyone any advantage.
Those have started to come down! It’s still more difficult than it should be but Ive watched one of my local dealers drop their markups on just about everything. Im hoping this trend continues out to the east and west coast which almost lives in a different reality🙃
How was the wind noise in the Mazda miata? I'm taller like you and I worry about long road trips top down.
It's quite noisy at highway speeds, not deafening but I tested it with the RF, not the soft top. It's not bad enough to prevent me from buying one, but if that's a concern for you, definitely test drive it because she is no lexus!
@@Realistick thanks for the reply ! I had a 2016 mustang convertible with an aftermarket windscreen that cut out 80% of wind in the cockpit that was great, until it got too hot, then drop the ws and voila, nice refreshing breeze.
Came from Zack praddle
26:00 Miata? Can’t fit, and I’m only 6’3”. Non-starter.
That’s unfortunate, the GR86 should fix that!
Japan has 4wd Honda Fits
RIP Legacy
Is that the Road America go cart track?
It is! We got to use it for autocross on a press day
@Realistick it's my favorite place on planet Earth. It is one of the world's greatest road courses. Have you ever seen a race there?
@@shredofmalarchi I have not, unfortunately, but driving on both were awesome! It’s definitely worth the drive from indiana to attend a track day for so I do want to go back sometime!
actually it´s a Peugeot 306, it´s idiot proof, even i could work on it lol
Peugeot was going to come back to North America. Then Stelantis killed that idea 🥹
Nobody offroads the crosstrek thetes no point in the wilderness, its just bragging rights
Subaru owners are notorious for being reckless out west and I can personally attest to seeing modified Crosstreks deep in remote areas!
1985 mercury. Marquis wagon
GTI base trim. Best value, along with Mazda3.
Honda Civic has gotten way too huge & kinda pretty ugly.
Starting to see a theme here . Is Mazda the new Toyota ?
CX3 & Audi Q3 are the two I’d take if I had to have a crossover.
The GR Corolla may be the worst looking--inside AND outside--car among the most interesting non-luxury cars of the decade.
It’s quite literally just a corolla hatch with a widebody kit, i get why some may not like it but it’s not that offensive. To each their own I suppose🧑🦯
The stealth aspect is a bonus for many people. I love the low key looks personally.
You’re one of the minorities then. I’ve never heard anyone say the GRC is a bad looking car
For me:
30k sports car = gr86
50k car = s3
Subcompact suv = cx30
Compact SUV = cx5
Mid suv = bronco/pilot
Gt car 911 4
Dream car 458
Way too many Toyotas in your list. The 4runner is such a terrible car. I've had one and I hated it.
I am from europe, new generation Honda Fit is even better than previous gen. Too bad europeans hate japanese cars and don't buy them...