@@jackthegreek6092 The reason he achieved almost nothing is because literally everyone around him fucked up in enormous ways, Krillin destroyed the remote, Vegeta let Cell reach perfect, Goku didn't take the medicine, They did not train enough for the androids, all things Trunks warned and was careful about. Z trunks also defeated the androids, cell, dabura and babidi from his timeline, that's way more dubs than Vegeta ever claimed in his life
@@GrandTonka Z Trunks didn't defeat Dabura though that was Super Trunks and all those other W's you mentioned aren't impressive because we already know he's way stronger than all of them to begin with. Kuririn destroying the remote didn't mean he couldn't have been more of a challenge to Cell instead of failing miserably with his transformation.
@@jackthegreek6092 1. Super Trunks didn't even defeat Zamasu, Zamasu was still a threat and ZenŌ defeated him. 2. Character wise, yes, Super ruined his actual character. That arc was fire in the manga, but he didn't do anything impressive in this version either outside of losing his damn timeline.
@@HomellAlcautor Trunks defeated Zamasu as far as fighting was concerned. Zamasu becoming the sky was completely out of his hands. So you think Trunks who just stands around healing instead of fighting is somehow better? Also manga Trunks also lost his timeline so I don't really see your point.
This is why Trunks shouldn’t have been brought back in Super cause his arc was finished and satisfyingly completed in dbz his return and his love interest being Mai sucked as well as the clothes and hair change my man had his balls raise up rather than down nerfing how badass he was
I know dude! You'd expect trunks to be more mascular and bad ass, especially when you consider the tough reality he lives in, but instead he looks like a college boy. He no-longer has that cool vibe. In Super people gain power very easily and unfortunately ruins that element of a characters hardwork finally paying off, in DBZ Vegeta worked he's ass just achieve Super sayain.
The most agregious thing about that whole arc is how to beat the big bad, they Goku erased everything in that timeline. Everything humanity fought and died for was rendered pointless.
That's what bothered me the most, the whole point of Trunks going back to the main timeline was to stop everyone from dying. Instead, everyone got erased from existence. At that point, he should have just stayed in the main timeline, wtf was the point of "Going back to an earlier point in his own timeline" bro, it isn't your timeline anymore, you failed.
@@cbrown596The worst part was the how they acted like the god awful ending they made was a good ending lol. "Don't worry Trunks, you may have failed miserably in defending your timeline and everything and everyone there is gone and dead, but you can go to this other timeline that is exactly like yours where you'll live with a copy of yourself that is a constant reminder of your failure 😀". Should have just left Trunks tf alone and let him live peacefully in his reformed future, instead of making everything worse for him as a shitty way to force as much fan-service as possible into that arc.
@@thegungerbrospodcast7671Yea because Trunks should not face any consequences for time traveling and live a happy ending. Especially his unseen timeline version who was selfish to head back again and got killed by Cell. Who ends up messing with time as well.
Dbz future Trunks is “HIM” but dbs mess up everything about him like his look! His was my favorite character besides Vegeta! I like Goku black but they made Trunks so weak! 😢 He doesn’t play with his food! I believe if he didn’t have his father fight cell first, he would have put cell to death! He would have been that guy!
It's not that Trunks was weak, it's just Goku Black was so much stronger, don't forget, Zamasu took the body of a future Goku post Battle of God and Ressurection of F and basically just had to get used to his body to use it at full power. The fact, Trunks could actually keep up with him is remarkable and even more respect worthy!
@@JustAGuy1712probably in your dreams cus even kid trunks has purple hair in Z.. purple hair future trunks has always been the better design. And beside the hair, LOOK AT HIS BUILD in super, he looks horrible, he doesn’t even look menacing or at least built he looks wack ash. In DBZ he was left off super buff and trained and when he comes back in super he’s like the worst looking saiyan besides Gohan
@@moisesvirgen7711 Why should trunks be menacing? Literally after witnessing genocide and being unable to do anything. Oh and then having your mom die in front of you. What makes you think a starving teenager would be buff?
They should have had SSG stick around that movie anyway and have blue come in a later arc. SSG is such a wasted form all because Toei wanted a new shiny transformation sell toys of.
Super assassinated every single character, not just Trunks. Blind them with flashy colors and they wont notice horrible script from people who never saw a single episode of Dragon Ball Z, or god forbid OG series.
The biggest offender for Future trunks was the Manga. They made him into a total bitch. He had no character arc in the manga at all, he regressed from his Cell Saga self. He wasn't relavent at all in any fight. He had 2 training sessions with no playoff. He had 3 asspulls in the manga so they can give him screentime. A total and utter disappointment
@@ExplicitSage I mostly agree in terms of clothing but I would say Trunks should probably be more lean and athletic similar to Spiderman rather than overtly muscular and buff like Goku and Vegeta.
My only allowance for trunk's power gain is, he knew what ssj2 was and obtained that through training. He is a guy that doesn't take chances so he would have continued training over the last ~8 years since we saw him, and it is shown he trained with the kais (unfortunately didn't get his potential unlocked by the elder Kai but still did train with gods none-the-less) I also assume getting his butt kicked several times by Goku black granted some zen Kai boosts. I actually really enjoyed let's say the first 2/3 of the DBS future trunks arc. The bulk went away from everyone when they changed anime styles so that was kind of expected, by imagine Jiren in a dbz style, bro would take up three pages lol
Probably because he just witnessed his timeline get completely fucked up again by a God that has stolen Goku's body and kills the only bit of family he had left. Not only that, but Zamasu blames Trunks for all the destruction he brought on due to him messing with the time travel. So, by trying to save his timeline by going to the past, he ends up making things worse from a far more powerful villain. Honestly, I don't see the problem with how they handled Trunks in Super, considering all the awful shit he's had to go through.
Its especially bullshit considering they had the potential to have given Trunks the "Ultimate Form" and actually have someone willing to grow the transformation. Imagine Trunks sparring with Goku and reveals he had Gohan's Ultimate Form (since unlike present Gohan, Trunks knows the risks associated with not training)
The God form should have been the equivalent of Fusion, I dont think it should have become a commonly achievable form. This would have made more sense as Goku and Vegeta prefer to rely on their own power over Fusion/TeamPowerUps. This would given a reason to developing Ultra Instinct (doesnt use God-ki) as a way to approximate that power without a ritual.
I do agree with you about DBS being a cash cow but The Creator Akira Toriyama hated DBGT and felt that the story of Gohan was never told properly. Esentially Gohan was supposed to be the main Character of the Franchise after the Z saga but GT kinda wrecked those plans which is why Super was made to try and rectify the wrongs of the past. and why Gohan is so fucking cool in the new series.
Bro, what you talking about Akira felt gohan was ruined by GT AKIRA HIMSELF FELT GOHAN WASN'T IT AS A MAIN CHARACTER, THAT'S WHY GOKU CAME BACK IMMEDIATELY IN THE BUU SAGA Hatin on gt for not even true things If anyone ruined Gohan it's Toriyama himself
@Nora I agree, but Toriyama didn't write GT, which is why he discarded it... and yes, the story Gohan was not told properly because he always wanted Gohan to be the main character of DBZ... FACT CHECK YOURSELF
No this has nothing to do with GT. Toriyama realized around the buu arc that gohan isn't main character material, which makes sense he is not a fighter like goku and vegeta. He is a kid that was forced in to situations because if he didn't partake people were gonna die. Toriyama decided gohan was not fit for the main character role which is why gohan fails to beat buu and everything plays out the way it does. GT has nothing to do with it gohan already lost his main character status before GT started buu arc goku is the main character and at the end of Z he is the main character and he is passing the torch not to gohan, but to uub. Goku found that his kids aren't his successor but uub is.
No, Toriyama never saw gohan as a protagonist, that's why we had the Buu saga in DBZ. He always wanted to draw him as a "slice of life" character, that's why he became a scholar and formed a family with videl in the first place. DBS super hero is just another attempt at baiting the old fans with The beast transformation, Red ribbon army creating androids again to dominate the world and Cell Max.
Today the truth super didn't ruin trunks super it's in a different dimension and not a true continuation of Z so they ruined only that version of trunks which is different from the version that I grew up with and the late 90s early 2000 so you can feel safe knowing that.
Despite all the losses, we could've find it somehow comforting that all the z warriors were together in the afterlife. Future Trunks and Bulma suffered the most on all the main characters. They should've been left alone. But no. They had to bring him back on this zombiefied and braindead version of dragonball. Then take everything he had left minus an old woman on a younger body. That Mai pairing is weird asf. Then a trash and weak Mxzyptlk clone in Zeno had to delete everything. That includes the afterlife in that timeline.
Nah bruh - it actually IS a different trunks in super. He's not the trunks from "history of trunks" timeline aka dbz trunks - that one kills cell after he beats 17 + 18 - he's from the "hidden" third timeline - the one where cell OG came from. Cell lied - he only STOLE the time machine - he never killed him. Cell was never powerful enough in base form. EDIT: the one in super is the one who killed freeza. The one who killed freeza and the one who fights gero + cell are from different timelines. Yeah - timeline is wack. Is what it is. and, according to the manga, Vegeta has access to god ki cause he's a savage. Literally - he found a way to push through his limiter to keep up with goku and became a god himself, and then found a way push past that to SSGSS - he's basically saitama if saitama was a badass.
At least his actions are consistent He shows up in the outfit mommy made for him,immediately runs a fade with someone on his first arrival,ends up meeting with/helping the z fighters,gets more powerful and helps out in the major fight somehow,and things get resolved in some way or another because he always puts in work
I like Super Trunks. He had actual mental torment from losing everything all at once. His morale was completely broken from losing Bulma and possibly Mai. And I also like that he lost his muscles as a result from living on catfood underground. It was just really cool.
@@DummyTenshi I mean his confidence stemmed from him knowing what was going to happen as he had been told everything by his mother and Gohan. Trunks when he confronts Frieza knows he is a multitude of degrees stronger than Freeza and his father. He probably acts the way he does during that fight because he’s on a power trip and immediately became a bully as he has found a target deserving of his hate and anger while also being powerless to stop it. Makes sense to me. His confidence is out the window really when 19 & 20 shows up as he realizes his knowledge of history no longer matters. I would say the next time we see him confident is after hyperbolic and obviously we know why he is confident post training. Because his dad whipped him into shape and he’s much stronger.
@@Freshwitdaposites18 That's a fair point, I like that take on it. However that raises the question then, did Trunks change at all at as a character or is there something I'm missing?
@@DummyTenshi that honestly I cannot answer. I don’t think the video did a good job of providing evidence that his character itself changed much. But personally I couldn’t watch Super. I hated it immediately because I did not appreciate the fact that it retconned a whole bunch of lore items that I thought made no sense and served to only cheapen the story of Z in a nonsensical way. That and the fact that the escalation of things began to reach levels of ridiculousness (super dragon balls with no rules attached because idk) gods, ritual power boosts. But anyway. I didn’t watch the Black arc so I don’t know if trucks changed. Tbh I thought it was a different trunks altogether from a different timeline which is why his hair was blue (Bulmas hair genes were dominant). Seemed the writers went out of there way to make him differentiable from the trucks in Z so I still find it hard to believe they are the same person
@@Freshwitdaposites18onestly after watching that god-awful Black Arc, it really depends on how you look at “change” if the ppl who made the arc were actually competent writers, then they could have went with the Tokyo Ghoul or Jujutsu Kaisen approach of reactive change through trauma. Instead Trunks…..is literally the same character who went through the exact same character arc in Z. Beaten in his timeline so he had to go to another one for assistance, receives assistance, realizes his actions are the reason the timeline is fucked up to begin with, comes to terms of having to use his own power to save his timeline. It’s rinse and repeat but just done A LOT WORSE!! I will be fair, the manga version of the Black Arc is not that bad, but as far as Trunks character it’s about the same, it’s done horribly in both anime and manga.
Many things about this new era of dragonball feel so talentless and soulless. But probably, they simply believe this is what Japanese kids want, and we are simply not the target audience.
The spirit bomb doesn’t use ki the way a kamehameha does. It uses genki, basically just pure life force. I don’t think power levels make any difference with the spirit bomb.
One reason I got for why he lost muscle was a lack of good food the future being in chaos doesn't have the same quality of food that he got to eat in the past but that's all I got.
@@AmphotericcMike lol I wasn't talking about the real reason. But the fan lore head cannon. But that does explain a lot about some of the newer design choices for the characters as a whole.
The problem there is that he's still as strong as Goku and Vegeta up to their Super Saiyan forms, Goku even said as much. It's not a satisfying explanation, especially when Trunks is still scrawny despite staying in the present for a while.
Future trunks should have been given the z look with sleeves jack with the sayian armor under that also the anime should have given him ss3 or ssg for a new transformation ss rage is weird comes out of nowhere and it to explane that he can keep up with goku and vegeta
Trunks had the most epic entrance in the series, a mysterious stranger wielding a sword and then just casually goes super saiyan easily defeating the 2nd and 3rd strongest characters in the universe at that point, chef’s kiss character introduction.
What DRAGON BALL SUPER did to Future Trunks was unforgivable. That's why I ignore it. I own DRAGON BALL Z KAI from the SAIYAN SAGA up to CELL SAGA. And I intentionally stopped there. The rest I leave to my own imagination. An imagination that sees Future Trunks and his Mama, Bulma Briefs, rebuilding the Capsule Corporation into the Earth Defense Force. With the two seeking out, recruiting, staffing, and fielding martial artists and other warriors as Earth's new Special Forces. All to make sure that Earth is prepared to defend against any crisis.
Future trunks is a hybrid he's potential is crazy. Also he's rage is from everything that happened to him, he just had enough. Also Vegeta is supposed to be the serious one, not Goku, even though he can be. Goku in UI is very serious. If Goku was always serious we wouldn't need Vegeta.
Goku Black arc is in my opinion the worst arc in Super, it has a great idea for an arc but the retcons, and the whole making Trunks' ending in Z completely irrelevant and useless, and especially the *ending* just completely ruins it for me.
His hair is most likely purple at first because his mother's hair was purple to begin with (Dragon Ball) and switched to blue over time. Maybe it's a genetic thing with Briefs family
Nah bro that’s all Cope. Future trunks was well past puberty in Z. Especially add the extra year he spent in the hyperbolic time chamber. Trunks in Dragonball GT also had purple hair as an adult when he was President of Capsule Corp. (I know GT isn’t canon but it’s just a reference we can use.)
Dude the only thing Trunks did other than be a jobber inn z was kill frezza. After that what did he do except cry and deal with his daddy issues. At least he was the guy who beat the boss in Super damn
I would handle future Trunks. Different Design Here's what I'm thinking. The purple hair. Add some more muscle. You don't need to go overly muscular. This isn't super sing great 3 here, but Still make him have that good muscle definition? And this is stuff that I think most people can agree on here period this is where I start getting a bit more controversial. Keep the scarf and the new jacket. And may. Be the boots but I'm fine if you go back to the old boots, they're both just the same with a different color then darken up the pants to be more black than that Gray and plus he does need the sword. And this is all just from design.Not actual like story, but I think these from a design perspective.Is still pretty good in my opinion
God damn people are cynical about Dragon Ball these days. I liked DBZ Kai, I can’t stand the original blatantly incorrectly translated dub of Z, but I can’t stand Goku’s Japanese voice more. I like Super and all the new story stuff like the broly and super hero movies. There’s things I don’t agree with that they do in super like doubling down on Goku being an idiot when it comes to anything but fighting, trunks and goten still being kids for whatever reason, Buu not getting his fair due. But personally I don’t think super Trunks was character assassinated or anything like that, in fact he kinda just did what he did in Z: Look cool, win a little, eat shit, get stronger, win for a little more, eat more shit. Hell I thought his reactions to everything that’s happened since the last time he saw them was hilarious, Future Mai was awesome and I don’t usually like many of the female characters of Dragon Ball, mostly cause half of them just scream and shout at other characters (Chi-Chi) Point is, I like Super Trunks just as much as I like Z Trunks
They just needed to keep his style idk why he lost so much muscle mass. It's a bit annoying that he didn't get past ssj2 on his own it was cool how he rag dolled the buu saga but him constantly relying on Goku and vegeta in super and then just losing everything again at the end after all the fighting he did. It's like they just brought him back because he's cool but just dropped the ball
everyone in super acted like children. thats why i dont even count it as a series because it was catered to children. the og series was for adults because it was alot more blood and gits. super had none so it was specifically for children.
the continuity is a little better than u gave credit for bulmas hair was purple in dragon ball and turns blue in z when she's older so they did the same for trunks
@@nezu-4007i mean, his feats were literally just 1. killing the weaker versions of the android duo (stated as weaker in the future) 2. killing meched up frieza (something which goku did in the future saga) 3.killing first form cell (by jumping him) 4. becoming the first broly ever thats just it
Truth is even DBZ ruined future Trunks as well. Look at all the OAVs where Trunks faints after 2 punches, same applies to pretty much everyone else other than Goku. I don't think Toriyama had any respect for DBZ characters or their fans
Trunks gets jumped by a super saiyan blue goku level threat, and his Immortal friend, with Only super saiyan 2 and when he isnt badass like he was for those 5 minutes of his introduction hes ruined? i dont wanna diss trunks but i genuinely feel like people just say DBS trunks is bad because he isnt "badass" which is also a BS argument because he does cool stuff in Goku black arc too...
Tha regression of Future Trunks make sense even though I don't like it it makes sense because he grow in a place where he cannot be fine with his childhood self so why he doing this regression he's trying to be more in touch with his kids
Nothing wrong with Super Trunks. Everyone is just salty that he wasnt all buff anymore (not a lot of food in Trunks timeline so him being massive wouldnt even make sense) and his hair was blue instead of purple 😂
He's a hybrid baby of sayian and human. As far the god ki thing there is two ways I can give that would explain it. #1 the ritual made ki flow through all the characters as seen with videl when her hair changed color witch was a anime only thing as far as I know so with training he was able to raise to Goku's level and the other reason was they had to do the ritual for Goku and not Vegeta cuz they didn't have time to wait cause Beerus was inpatient but after said ritual and when they made friends with them he was able to train a learn from scratch instead of having false power poured in to his body like Goku and that's why Vegeta was to master blue first. But that's just my guess I don't know why they chose to do any of this especially because the anime and manga go in drastically different directions when comes to certain situations.
Trunks arc in Z and Super were great. They did him well in Super. My favorite arc in super as of right now. And it’s still more to His story they can tell.
So Trunks crying and getting his own Sonic OC unique transformation for no reason and cutting Zamasu in fact because Vegito defused for asinine reasons, oh yeah bro also used the Spirit Bomb unconsciously somehow and used the energy of like 12 dudes to cut Zamasu in half... What even is this horseshit? You're weird for liking super
16:20 One disagreement I have here: Vegeta and Goku learned to use god ki on their own by training with Whis in the anime's RoF Arc. The explanation was that they learned to prevent their ki from leaking out of their bodies, and doing so successfully amplifies their regular ki into god ki (which explains why god ki can't be sensed by mortals). Trunks DEFINITELY should've been doing this kind of training, though-not sparring with Vegeta outdoors. One of DBS' worst habits is giving characters absolutely no worthwhile training and then suddenly making them as strong as Goku and Vegeta, and Future Trunks is far from the worst example cough17cough.
I remember watching such a scene, but I have no recollection of them saying not leaking out you ki magically turns it into God Ki. You statement seems a wee. It far fetched, more of a reach than anything. If you have some sort of evidence of this. Whether it be a manga panel, article or episode. I would be interested to have a look.
@@ExplicitSage Sure-episode 22, around the 14-minute mark, when Whis puts them in the weird God Ki Chamber in his staff (which would've been mad useful for Trunks too...). It's more like a two-step process: first they prevent their ki from leaking out (which Whis trained them in a few eps earlier), then they raise their power levels in that state. Having that level of ki control is the main reason for why their power levels get so astronomically high with god forms. I'm guessing Toei got that idea from the Saiyan Beyond God concept from the Resurrection F movie that was totally forgotten afterwards.
@@KD-wc4rs His training in the Cell saga really bears no fruit and he doesn't exactly changes as a character. And it does not feel all that satisfying when he destroys his foes in his timeline because we already that he's way stronger than him, and the saga is prettey much over at this point, there's really no point in expecting anything else but a complete stomp for Trunks. There is also another thing that frustrate me with Trunks, his second motive of wishing to connect with his father. I debunked a headcanon about how Trunks' death was supposed to spur Vegeta to respect his son and earthlings in general, becoming a key defender of the very planet he wanted to wipe out, and they squandered it, letting Trunks die for nothing. I'll give the exact comment here: Two thinks make your headcanon false, the Dragon Balls and Vegeta himself Dragon Balls: It is well recorded by now that in Dragon Ball death has no consequence, the characters just flippantly use the Dragon Balls to fix all their problems including people who got killed, that includes Trunks. The Cell saga is one of those sagas where this is the most evident, even though there was a point where the Dragon Balls would be not useful, they just ended up getting a new Kami anyway who made the Dragon Balls more powerful, and this is not even mentioning the Namekian Dragon Balls. This basically makes Vegeta raging against Cell pretty pointless if you ask me, and I mean why even kill Trunks in the first place if he’s just going to be revived in the end? And why didn’t Future Bulma just build a rocket instead of a time machine to New Namek?! Vegeta: MistareFusion probably is able to explain my thoughts better but throughout the Cell saga Vegeta is just simply a dick for the sake of being a dick, and he’s not even a fun dick either. People can complain about Goku being a bad father but we literally see Vegeta beat his own son up and just get in the way of everybody in the same saga and he gets a pass? Is this really the father-figure Trunks is supposed to look up to?! It definitely does not make sense for that to be the case only taking the Cell saga into account. I really think that Vegeta doesn’t belong in the saga, he should have left Earth after the Frieza saga since really he’s too dangerous to be kept around and there is not really anything else for him to do besides possibly attain Super Saiyan and defeat Goku in the end. My other option would be to just have Trunks kill Vegeta after being disillusioned from the image of his Dad that he built up for himself. And finally I'd like to talk about when Trunks one-shotted Freeza, I now might of the unpopular opinion that having Trunks do that actually ruined him. Even though it gets rid of the previous villain to make way for the next ones, it unfortunately raises the readers' expectations of Trunks way too high to the point where it is inevitable to get let down in the end, and that's definitely what happened in the Cell saga. That's not even mentioning that it's a cop-out that doesn't give the Freeza saga a proper conclusion. And you know what this infuriate me the most, this is supposed to be his saga!! And it just feels out of place that he's so irrelevant for it and doesn't do anything!
that goes for everything super related its always been pretty much agreed on that super manga is good, its simply just the anime which makes sense, as its just toei doing stuff with no advice from akira although i say it isnt all that bad...
Oh I fucking love how DBS Manga portrayed him, the short part of him fighting Dabura was sick and basically preventing the whole Buu saga from happening made me love him more
they changed his hair to blue because both trunks are supposed to have the same hair color as bulma which was how it was in the original dbz manga, toei actually messed it up by giving him purple hair in the dbz anime but then messed up AGAIN in the anime by giving kid trunks purple hair, the dbs manga is the only one which fixes this by giving bulma and both trunks blue hair
Bulma had lavender hair in the manga but Toei made it blue in the anime for some reason. They decided to fix Bulma and Trunks having differently colored hair in Super, but didn't correct Bulma's hair, instead strangely making Trunks share the incorrect blue instead
I think this is one thing we can all agree on, whether you like or dislike Super it's fact that Trunk's character was completely desecrated.
No lol we cannot. Z Trunks achieved nothing impressive besides killing Freeza Super Trunks actually defeated Zamasu.
@@jackthegreek6092 The reason he achieved almost nothing is because literally everyone around him fucked up in enormous ways, Krillin destroyed the remote, Vegeta let Cell reach perfect, Goku didn't take the medicine, They did not train enough for the androids, all things Trunks warned and was careful about. Z trunks also defeated the androids, cell, dabura and babidi from his timeline, that's way more dubs than Vegeta ever claimed in his life
@@GrandTonka Z Trunks didn't defeat Dabura though that was Super Trunks and all those other W's you mentioned aren't impressive because we already know he's way stronger than all of them to begin with. Kuririn destroying the remote didn't mean he couldn't have been more of a challenge to Cell instead of failing miserably with his transformation.
@@jackthegreek6092 1. Super Trunks didn't even defeat Zamasu, Zamasu was still a threat and ZenŌ defeated him. 2. Character wise, yes, Super ruined his actual character. That arc was fire in the manga, but he didn't do anything impressive in this version either outside of losing his damn timeline.
@@HomellAlcautor Trunks defeated Zamasu as far as fighting was concerned. Zamasu becoming the sky was completely out of his hands. So you think Trunks who just stands around healing instead of fighting is somehow better? Also manga Trunks also lost his timeline so I don't really see your point.
It's crazy considering the jacket that Trunks always wore is Bulma's jacket. Always repping his mom💯
Is that why it was so small?
@@lekacious3529 more than likely yes lol Still drip tho
@@lekacious3529 yep
@@azureangel8217 I love it when he's got the sleeves cut off like in broly
Long hair Trunks > Super Trunks
Purple hair Trunks > Blue hair Trunks
I agree future trunks is my favorite as well and I was very sad to see them absolutely destroy him in super. Super freaking sucks man
Yall gotta think. He had no conflict until Goku Black so there was no reason for him to train frfr. He thought he had the key to the streets 😂
@@ParisTheGreat
The thing is, even if he trained it wouldn’t have been enough to beat Zamasu. Shit was rigged from the start.
I think it's a different trunks IMO because he's so off
Part of me doesn’t like to accept DBS is canon. They had so much time to do everything right, yet they fell short in a lot of areas.
I pretend it’s not. It’s a terrible show in my opinion
@@glouppdee3054 it's just the Goku show, and in opinion, some of the best parts of super have nothing to do with Goku.
I always say it's not since DB ended with Goku going to train Uub and come back every now and then for Pan😊 since that's where it ended so long ago❤😂
@@dekaritheprofessor2631 same😭😭
@@glouppdee3054 👍🏾👍🏾
Yeah man, I treat dbs like boruto, I ignore their existence
Same here
Yup same
This is why Trunks shouldn’t have been brought back in Super cause his arc was finished and satisfyingly completed in dbz his return and his love interest being Mai sucked as well as the clothes and hair change my man had his balls raise up rather than down nerfing how badass he was
I know dude! You'd expect trunks to be more mascular and bad ass, especially when you consider the tough reality he lives in, but instead he looks like a college boy. He no-longer has that cool vibe. In Super people gain power very easily and unfortunately ruins that element of a characters hardwork finally paying off, in DBZ Vegeta worked he's ass just achieve Super sayain.
Yeah it's like If future gohan looked like gohan from resurrection of F
The most agregious thing about that whole arc is how to beat the big bad, they Goku erased everything in that timeline.
Everything humanity fought and died for was rendered pointless.
Even the afterlife was deleted there. So all the Z warriors who were just resting are *poof*. Gone.
That's what bothered me the most, the whole point of Trunks going back to the main timeline was to stop everyone from dying.
Instead, everyone got erased from existence. At that point, he should have just stayed in the main timeline, wtf was the point of "Going back to an earlier point in his own timeline" bro, it isn't your timeline anymore, you failed.
@@cbrown596The worst part was the how they acted like the god awful ending they made was a good ending lol.
"Don't worry Trunks, you may have failed miserably in defending your timeline and everything and everyone there is gone and dead, but you can go to this other timeline that is exactly like yours where you'll live with a copy of yourself that is a constant reminder of your failure 😀".
Should have just left Trunks tf alone and let him live peacefully in his reformed future, instead of making everything worse for him as a shitty way to force as much fan-service as possible into that arc.
@@thegungerbrospodcast7671Yea because Trunks should not face any consequences for time traveling and live a happy ending. Especially his unseen timeline version who was selfish to head back again and got killed by Cell. Who ends up messing with time as well.
Even the Super Saiyan Future Trunks 🥵🥵🥵
Dbz future Trunks is “HIM” but dbs mess up everything about him like his look! His was my favorite character besides Vegeta! I like Goku black but they made Trunks so weak! 😢 He doesn’t play with his food! I believe if he didn’t have his father fight cell first, he would have put cell to death! He would have been that guy!
It's not that Trunks was weak, it's just Goku Black was so much stronger, don't forget, Zamasu took the body of a future Goku post Battle of God and Ressurection of F and basically just had to get used to his body to use it at full power.
The fact, Trunks could actually keep up with him is remarkable and even more respect worthy!
How did they make Trunks weak when they said he beat Babidi before Buu was even released which just proves that he still doesn't play with his food.
When I saw his hair was blue that pissed me off
His hair was blue in z..
@@JustAGuy1712 nope
@@JustAGuy1712probably in your dreams cus even kid trunks has purple hair in Z.. purple hair future trunks has always been the better design. And beside the hair, LOOK AT HIS BUILD in super, he looks horrible, he doesn’t even look menacing or at least built he looks wack ash. In DBZ he was left off super buff and trained and when he comes back in super he’s like the worst looking saiyan besides Gohan
@@moisesvirgen7711 Why should trunks be menacing? Literally after witnessing genocide and being unable to do anything. Oh and then having your mom die in front of you.
What makes you think a starving teenager would be buff?
16:20 resurrection F should have been vegitas movie and him getting super sayan God
They should have had SSG stick around that movie anyway and have blue come in a later arc. SSG is such a wasted form all because Toei wanted a new shiny transformation sell toys of.
Super assassinated every single character, not just Trunks. Blind them with flashy colors and they wont notice horrible script from people who never saw a single episode of Dragon Ball Z, or god forbid OG series.
The biggest offender for Future trunks was the Manga. They made him into a total bitch. He had no character arc in the manga at all, he regressed from his Cell Saga self. He wasn't relavent at all in any fight. He had 2 training sessions with no playoff. He had 3 asspulls in the manga so they can give him screentime. A total and utter disappointment
The fact that you used Carti verse from FYBR to describe Trunks drip! 😂😂 Bro you get a sub just off that alone! Keep doing ya thing my boi!
So cool you noticed 😂😂
@@ExplicitSage I mostly agree in terms of clothing but I would say Trunks should probably be more lean and athletic similar to Spiderman rather than overtly muscular and buff like Goku and Vegeta.
My only allowance for trunk's power gain is, he knew what ssj2 was and obtained that through training. He is a guy that doesn't take chances so he would have continued training over the last ~8 years since we saw him, and it is shown he trained with the kais (unfortunately didn't get his potential unlocked by the elder Kai but still did train with gods none-the-less) I also assume getting his butt kicked several times by Goku black granted some zen Kai boosts. I actually really enjoyed let's say the first 2/3 of the DBS future trunks arc. The bulk went away from everyone when they changed anime styles so that was kind of expected, by imagine Jiren in a dbz style, bro would take up three pages lol
They really hoed my favorite z fighter in super 🤦🏽♂️ smh. They had him getting housed by his 10 year old self, like whyyyyy????
Probably because he just witnessed his timeline get completely fucked up again by a God that has stolen Goku's body and kills the only bit of family he had left. Not only that, but Zamasu blames Trunks for all the destruction he brought on due to him messing with the time travel. So, by trying to save his timeline by going to the past, he ends up making things worse from a far more powerful villain.
Honestly, I don't see the problem with how they handled Trunks in Super, considering all the awful shit he's had to go through.
Future Trunks was my GOAT along with Gohan which DBS does so much justice with 😅Its bitter sweet
as a fellow future trunks enjoyer i can say this man vented my thoughts on dbs trunks clearly.
Hey I agree. In the Goku black Arc trunks was like a little boy crying his hair look like crab legs.
Its especially bullshit considering they had the potential to have given Trunks the "Ultimate Form" and actually have someone willing to grow the transformation.
Imagine Trunks sparring with Goku and reveals he had Gohan's Ultimate Form (since unlike present Gohan, Trunks knows the risks associated with not training)
Super killed my favorite character 💔💔💔💔
DBS just ruined the Z characters in general…
The God form should have been the equivalent of Fusion, I dont think it should have become a commonly achievable form.
This would have made more sense as Goku and Vegeta prefer to rely on their own power over Fusion/TeamPowerUps. This would given a reason to developing Ultra Instinct (doesnt use God-ki) as a way to approximate that power without a ritual.
I do agree with you about DBS being a cash cow but The Creator Akira Toriyama hated DBGT and felt that the story of Gohan was never told properly. Esentially Gohan was supposed to be the main Character of the Franchise after the Z saga but GT kinda wrecked those plans which is why Super was made to try and rectify the wrongs of the past. and why Gohan is so fucking cool in the new series.
Gohan was pathetic in Super until around the ToP arc. It was obvious that he wasn't even close to being the main character.
Bro, what you talking about Akira felt gohan was ruined by GT
AKIRA HIMSELF FELT GOHAN WASN'T IT AS A MAIN CHARACTER, THAT'S WHY GOKU CAME BACK IMMEDIATELY IN THE BUU SAGA
Hatin on gt for not even true things
If anyone ruined Gohan it's Toriyama himself
@Nora I agree, but Toriyama didn't write GT, which is why he discarded it... and yes, the story Gohan was not told properly because he always wanted Gohan to be the main character of DBZ... FACT CHECK YOURSELF
No this has nothing to do with GT. Toriyama realized around the buu arc that gohan isn't main character material, which makes sense he is not a fighter like goku and vegeta. He is a kid that was forced in to situations because if he didn't partake people were gonna die. Toriyama decided gohan was not fit for the main character role which is why gohan fails to beat buu and everything plays out the way it does.
GT has nothing to do with it gohan already lost his main character status before GT started buu arc goku is the main character and at the end of Z he is the main character and he is passing the torch not to gohan, but to uub. Goku found that his kids aren't his successor but uub is.
No, Toriyama never saw gohan as a protagonist, that's why we had the Buu saga in DBZ. He always wanted to draw him as a "slice of life" character, that's why he became a scholar and formed a family with videl in the first place. DBS super hero is just another attempt at baiting the old fans with The beast transformation, Red ribbon army creating androids again to dominate the world and Cell Max.
Today the truth super didn't ruin trunks super it's in a different dimension and not a true continuation of Z so they ruined only that version of trunks which is different from the version that I grew up with and the late 90s early 2000 so you can feel safe knowing that.
Despite all the losses, we could've find it somehow comforting that all the z warriors were together in the afterlife.
Future Trunks and Bulma suffered the most on all the main characters. They should've been left alone.
But no. They had to bring him back on this zombiefied and braindead version of dragonball. Then take everything he had left minus an old woman on a younger body. That Mai pairing is weird asf.
Then a trash and weak Mxzyptlk clone in Zeno had to delete everything. That includes the afterlife in that timeline.
Nah bruh - it actually IS a different trunks in super. He's not the trunks from "history of trunks" timeline aka dbz trunks - that one kills cell after he beats 17 + 18 - he's from the "hidden" third timeline - the one where cell OG came from. Cell lied - he only STOLE the time machine - he never killed him. Cell was never powerful enough in base form.
EDIT: the one in super is the one who killed freeza. The one who killed freeza and the one who fights gero + cell are from different timelines. Yeah - timeline is wack. Is what it is.
and, according to the manga, Vegeta has access to god ki cause he's a savage. Literally - he found a way to push through his limiter to keep up with goku and became a god himself, and then found a way push past that to SSGSS - he's basically saitama if saitama was a badass.
The Goku Black arc started out good then because the worst arc in super arguably
Which says a lot, given how the first 2 arcs were literal rehashes of movies.
Then-recent movies, at that.
@@AntiVillain26845 it's all the GT sagas put into one
At least his actions are consistent
He shows up in the outfit mommy made for him,immediately runs a fade with someone on his first arrival,ends up meeting with/helping the z fighters,gets more powerful and helps out in the major fight somehow,and things get resolved in some way or another because he always puts in work
I like Super Trunks.
He had actual mental torment from losing everything all at once. His morale was completely broken from losing Bulma and possibly Mai.
And I also like that he lost his muscles as a result from living on catfood underground.
It was just really cool.
I always felt DBZ Trunks was too confident for someone who had nothing but Ls until Frieza.
@@DummyTenshi I mean his confidence stemmed from him knowing what was going to happen as he had been told everything by his mother and Gohan. Trunks when he confronts Frieza knows he is a multitude of degrees stronger than Freeza and his father. He probably acts the way he does during that fight because he’s on a power trip and immediately became a bully as he has found a target deserving of his hate and anger while also being powerless to stop it. Makes sense to me. His confidence is out the window really when 19 & 20 shows up as he realizes his knowledge of history no longer matters. I would say the next time we see him confident is after hyperbolic and obviously we know why he is confident post training. Because his dad whipped him into shape and he’s much stronger.
@@Freshwitdaposites18 That's a fair point, I like that take on it.
However that raises the question then, did Trunks change at all at as a character or is there something I'm missing?
@@DummyTenshi that honestly I cannot answer. I don’t think the video did a good job of providing evidence that his character itself changed much. But personally I couldn’t watch Super. I hated it immediately because I did not appreciate the fact that it retconned a whole bunch of lore items that I thought made no sense and served to only cheapen the story of Z in a nonsensical way. That and the fact that the escalation of things began to reach levels of ridiculousness (super dragon balls with no rules attached because idk) gods, ritual power boosts. But anyway. I didn’t watch the Black arc so I don’t know if trucks changed. Tbh I thought it was a different trunks altogether from a different timeline which is why his hair was blue (Bulmas hair genes were dominant). Seemed the writers went out of there way to make him differentiable from the trucks in Z so I still find it hard to believe they are the same person
@@Freshwitdaposites18onestly after watching that god-awful Black Arc, it really depends on how you look at “change” if the ppl who made the arc were actually competent writers, then they could have went with the Tokyo Ghoul or Jujutsu Kaisen approach of reactive change through trauma. Instead Trunks…..is literally the same character who went through the exact same character arc in Z. Beaten in his timeline so he had to go to another one for assistance, receives assistance, realizes his actions are the reason the timeline is fucked up to begin with, comes to terms of having to use his own power to save his timeline. It’s rinse and repeat but just done A LOT WORSE!! I will be fair, the manga version of the Black Arc is not that bad, but as far as Trunks character it’s about the same, it’s done horribly in both anime and manga.
Also really loving the videos my man 😎
Appreciate the support big time bro 🤝🤝
@Explicit Sage of course, my dude. If you keep making fired content, you'll blow up
Many things about this new era of dragonball feel so talentless and soulless. But probably, they simply believe this is what Japanese kids want, and we are simply not the target audience.
The spirit bomb doesn’t use ki the way a kamehameha does. It uses genki, basically just pure life force. I don’t think power levels make any difference with the spirit bomb.
Do you always use persona music? W music taste.
I use their tracks regularly, good to see another man of culture in the cut.
Why isn’t he moving like a G anymore 😂💯🤷🏽♂️
Love how the drip is the deciding factor here.
Future is a perfect character, style entrance évolution, everything !
One reason I got for why he lost muscle was a lack of good food the future being in chaos doesn't have the same quality of food that he got to eat in the past but that's all I got.
I'm pretty sure its because of a change in art style, dbs has generally more thin characters because of the way toriyama started to draw them skinnier
@@AmphotericcMike lol I wasn't talking about the real reason. But the fan lore head cannon. But that does explain a lot about some of the newer design choices for the characters as a whole.
@@AmphotericcMike I mean they were eating cat food it makes sense in universe.
The problem there is that he's still as strong as Goku and Vegeta up to their Super Saiyan forms, Goku even said as much. It's not a satisfying explanation, especially when Trunks is still scrawny despite staying in the present for a while.
Future trunks should have been given the z look with sleeves jack with the sayian armor under that also the anime should have given him ss3 or ssg for a new transformation ss rage is weird comes out of nowhere and it to explane that he can keep up with goku and vegeta
Super ruined my childhood
Trunks had the most epic entrance in the series, a mysterious stranger wielding a sword and then just casually goes super saiyan easily defeating the 2nd and 3rd strongest characters in the universe at that point, chef’s kiss character introduction.
Good points. Trunks was my favorite character in Z... I share the same thoughts on Super!
What DRAGON BALL SUPER did to Future Trunks was unforgivable. That's why I ignore it. I own DRAGON BALL Z KAI from the SAIYAN SAGA up to CELL SAGA. And I intentionally stopped there.
The rest I leave to my own imagination. An imagination that sees Future Trunks and his Mama, Bulma Briefs, rebuilding the Capsule Corporation into the Earth Defense Force. With the two seeking out, recruiting, staffing, and fielding martial artists and other warriors as Earth's new Special Forces. All to make sure that Earth is prepared to defend against any crisis.
There is no one in the future besides Trunks strong enough to defend the Earth.
@@eobardthawne324 For now. But that could change. Depending on the story.
@@LucLightWolf121 It’s not likely to change since there’s no point in doing so.
there were no real critiques in this video.
The Frieza saga and Future Trunks Intro was the last of DBZ epicness
We can say super ruined many of our loved characters. They ruined vegeta goku gotens and kid trunks
Future trunks is a hybrid he's potential is crazy. Also he's rage is from everything that happened to him, he just had enough.
Also Vegeta is supposed to be the serious one, not Goku, even though he can be. Goku in UI is very serious.
If Goku was always serious we wouldn't need Vegeta.
0:54 - That's an interesting tune, feel like I've heard it before. Is it from a game? Persona maybe?
Sup man which country are you from? You sound like a South African
I am indeed 🤝
@@ExplicitSage Nice to see I am not alone as a South African anime RUclipsr.
Lol I was gonna ask him the same thing. You sound like my brother. Especially when you say "bruh"
Goku Black arc is in my opinion the worst arc in Super, it has a great idea for an arc but the retcons, and the whole making Trunks' ending in Z completely irrelevant and useless, and especially the *ending* just completely ruins it for me.
His hair is most likely purple at first because his mother's hair was purple to begin with (Dragon Ball) and switched to blue over time. Maybe it's a genetic thing with Briefs family
Nah bro that’s all Cope. Future trunks was well past puberty in Z. Especially add the extra year he spent in the hyperbolic time chamber.
Trunks in Dragonball GT also had purple hair as an adult when he was President of Capsule Corp. (I know GT isn’t canon but it’s just a reference we can use.)
@@ExplicitSage It probably has nothing to do with puberty but rather just character design changing.
can i just headcanon that super trunks is a different timeline to Z trunks. Z trunks got his happy ending. don't take it away from him.
Dude the only thing Trunks did other than be a jobber inn z was kill frezza. After that what did he do except cry and deal with his daddy issues. At least he was the guy who beat the boss in Super damn
I would handle future Trunks. Different Design
Here's what I'm thinking.
The purple hair.
Add some more muscle. You don't need to go overly muscular. This isn't super sing great 3 here, but Still make him have that good muscle definition? And this is stuff that I think most people can agree on here period this is where I start getting a bit more controversial. Keep the scarf and the new jacket. And may.
Be the boots but I'm fine if you go back to the old boots, they're both just the same with a different color then darken up the pants to be more black than that Gray and plus he does need the sword. And this is all just from design.Not actual like story, but I think these from a design perspective.Is still pretty good in my opinion
God damn people are cynical about Dragon Ball these days. I liked DBZ Kai, I can’t stand the original blatantly incorrectly translated dub of Z, but I can’t stand Goku’s Japanese voice more. I like Super and all the new story stuff like the broly and super hero movies. There’s things I don’t agree with that they do in super like doubling down on Goku being an idiot when it comes to anything but fighting, trunks and goten still being kids for whatever reason, Buu not getting his fair due. But personally I don’t think super Trunks was character assassinated or anything like that, in fact he kinda just did what he did in Z: Look cool, win a little, eat shit, get stronger, win for a little more, eat more shit. Hell I thought his reactions to everything that’s happened since the last time he saw them was hilarious, Future Mai was awesome and I don’t usually like many of the female characters of Dragon Ball, mostly cause half of them just scream and shout at other characters (Chi-Chi)
Point is, I like Super Trunks just as much as I like Z Trunks
They just needed to keep his style idk why he lost so much muscle mass. It's a bit annoying that he didn't get past ssj2 on his own it was cool how he rag dolled the buu saga but him constantly relying on Goku and vegeta in super and then just losing everything again at the end after all the fighting he did. It's like they just brought him back because he's cool but just dropped the ball
Take a shot of tequila every time this foo says drip 😂
everyone in super acted like children. thats why i dont even count it as a series because it was catered to children. the og series was for adults because it was alot more blood and gits. super had none so it was specifically for children.
I fully agree dB super did to much fan fair
Even gohan and goten, they coulda focused on them three and uub
the continuity is a little better than u gave credit for bulmas hair was purple in dragon ball and turns blue in z when she's older so they did the same for trunks
They could have made a separate series with Future Trunks
Yeah he does have his own movie which I’m glad they did that.
Already Cell killing Trunks randomly just to revive him five chapters later felt too harsh for his character
The movie made piccolo cool in the movie
aside from trunks dope ass debut, trunks was ass in dbz.
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@@nezu-4007i mean, his feats were literally just
1. killing the weaker versions of the android duo (stated as weaker in the future)
2. killing meched up frieza (something which goku did in the future saga)
3.killing first form cell (by jumping him)
4. becoming the first broly ever
thats just it
Truth is even DBZ ruined future Trunks as well. Look at all the OAVs where Trunks faints after 2 punches, same applies to pretty much everyone else other than Goku. I don't think Toriyama had any respect for DBZ characters or their fans
Trunks gets jumped by a super saiyan blue goku level threat, and his Immortal friend, with Only super saiyan 2
and when he isnt badass like he was for those 5 minutes of his introduction hes ruined?
i dont wanna diss trunks but i genuinely feel like people just say DBS trunks is bad because he isnt "badass"
which is also a BS argument because he does cool stuff in Goku black arc too...
He was eating nasty ass canned food for a year but he should somehow keep his Bojack physique lol.
Trunks did much more in Super than he did in Z
Trunks turned into a final fantasy reject character.
Who cares about trunks when you have Goku to look at in Super
The knowledge and experience in training they both got from wees
Tha regression of Future Trunks make sense even though I don't like it it makes sense because he grow in a place where he cannot be fine with his childhood self so why he doing this regression he's trying to be more in touch with his kids
Nothing wrong with Super Trunks. Everyone is just salty that he wasnt all buff anymore (not a lot of food in Trunks timeline so him being massive wouldnt even make sense) and his hair was blue instead of purple 😂
Super is fuckin horrible
On a long enough time line, everyone that's a fan boy of anyone but goku gets the shaft.
He's a hybrid baby of sayian and human. As far the god ki thing there is two ways I can give that would explain it. #1 the ritual made ki flow through all the characters as seen with videl when her hair changed color witch was a anime only thing as far as I know so with training he was able to raise to Goku's level and the other reason was they had to do the ritual for Goku and not Vegeta cuz they didn't have time to wait cause Beerus was inpatient but after said ritual and when they made friends with them he was able to train a learn from scratch instead of having false power poured in to his body like Goku and that's why Vegeta was to master blue first. But that's just my guess I don't know why they chose to do any of this especially because the anime and manga go in drastically different directions when comes to certain situations.
Trash
someone finally said it
Most of u are not thinking about where trucks is and what that could mean lmao
Its not the same future trunks from Z, the one from super is from a different timeline.....
I hate what they did to trunks in super
Even gt trunks was better
Trunks arc in Z and Super were great. They did him well in Super. My favorite arc in super as of right now. And it’s still more to His story they can tell.
So Trunks crying and getting his own Sonic OC unique transformation for no reason and cutting Zamasu in fact because Vegito defused for asinine reasons, oh yeah bro also used the Spirit Bomb unconsciously somehow and used the energy of like 12 dudes to cut Zamasu in half... What even is this horseshit? You're weird for liking super
I wish he would and kwpt coming back to past to train in chamber but i know its hard
16:20 One disagreement I have here: Vegeta and Goku learned to use god ki on their own by training with Whis in the anime's RoF Arc. The explanation was that they learned to prevent their ki from leaking out of their bodies, and doing so successfully amplifies their regular ki into god ki (which explains why god ki can't be sensed by mortals). Trunks DEFINITELY should've been doing this kind of training, though-not sparring with Vegeta outdoors. One of DBS' worst habits is giving characters absolutely no worthwhile training and then suddenly making them as strong as Goku and Vegeta, and Future Trunks is far from the worst example cough17cough.
I remember watching such a scene, but I have no recollection of them saying not leaking out you ki magically turns it into God Ki.
You statement seems a wee. It far fetched, more of a reach than anything. If you have some sort of evidence of this. Whether it be a manga panel, article or episode. I would be interested to have a look.
@@ExplicitSage Sure-episode 22, around the 14-minute mark, when Whis puts them in the weird God Ki Chamber in his staff (which would've been mad useful for Trunks too...).
It's more like a two-step process: first they prevent their ki from leaking out (which Whis trained them in a few eps earlier), then they raise their power levels in that state. Having that level of ki control is the main reason for why their power levels get so astronomically high with god forms. I'm guessing Toei got that idea from the Saiyan Beyond God concept from the Resurrection F movie that was totally forgotten afterwards.
It different future trunks they are separate
Lmao this vid fire
I’d actually argue that he was ruined as far back as the Cell saga
How ?
@@KD-wc4rs His training in the Cell saga really bears no fruit and he doesn't exactly changes as a character. And it does not feel all that satisfying when he destroys his foes in his timeline because we already that he's way stronger than him, and the saga is prettey much over at this point, there's really no point in expecting anything else but a complete stomp for Trunks. There is also another thing that frustrate me with Trunks, his second motive of wishing to connect with his father.
I debunked a headcanon about how Trunks' death was supposed to spur Vegeta to respect his son and earthlings in general, becoming a key defender of the very planet he wanted to wipe out, and they squandered it, letting Trunks die for nothing.
I'll give the exact comment here:
Two thinks make your headcanon false, the Dragon Balls and Vegeta himself
Dragon Balls: It is well recorded by now that in Dragon Ball death has no consequence, the characters just flippantly use the Dragon Balls to fix all their problems including people who got killed, that includes Trunks. The Cell saga is one of those sagas where this is the most evident, even though there was a point where the Dragon Balls would be not useful, they just ended up getting a new Kami anyway who made the Dragon Balls more powerful, and this is not even mentioning the Namekian Dragon Balls. This basically makes Vegeta raging against Cell pretty pointless if you ask me, and I mean why even kill Trunks in the first place if he’s just going to be revived in the end? And why didn’t Future Bulma just build a rocket instead of a time machine to New Namek?!
Vegeta: MistareFusion probably is able to explain my thoughts better but throughout the Cell saga Vegeta is just simply a dick for the sake of being a dick, and he’s not even a fun dick either. People can complain about Goku being a bad father but we literally see Vegeta beat his own son up and just get in the way of everybody in the same saga and he gets a pass? Is this really the father-figure Trunks is supposed to look up to?! It definitely does not make sense for that to be the case only taking the Cell saga into account. I really think that Vegeta doesn’t belong in the saga, he should have left Earth after the Frieza saga since really he’s too dangerous to be kept around and there is not really anything else for him to do besides possibly attain Super Saiyan and defeat Goku in the end. My other option would be to just have Trunks kill Vegeta after being disillusioned from the image of his Dad that he built up for himself.
And finally I'd like to talk about when Trunks one-shotted Freeza, I now might of the unpopular opinion that having Trunks do that actually ruined him. Even though it gets rid of the previous villain to make way for the next ones, it unfortunately raises the readers' expectations of Trunks way too high to the point where it is inevitable to get let down in the end, and that's definitely what happened in the Cell saga. That's not even mentioning that it's a cop-out that doesn't give the Freeza saga a proper conclusion.
And you know what this infuriate me the most, this is supposed to be his saga!! And it just feels out of place that he's so irrelevant for it and doesn't do anything!
11:49 did you have to show trunks being racist?
I hate the blue hair so much
Drip 1:52
You are right I really don’t like him in super
I think you're right
Dbs is shiiiit? Oh thats new 😂😂😂
_FOR US SUPER IS NOT CANON_
Are you South African ?
Indeed Bru 🤝
@@ExplicitSage nice 🗿💯
Manga didn't ruined him that much
that goes for everything super related
its always been pretty much agreed on that super manga is good, its simply just the anime
which makes sense, as its just toei doing stuff with no advice from akira
although i say it isnt all that bad...
@@sinsukiv2819 dbs anime come before the manga so that probably the reason why the anime was bad.
Oh I fucking love how DBS Manga portrayed him, the short part of him fighting Dabura was sick and basically preventing the whole Buu saga from happening made me love him more
3 words: read the manga
Dragonball super has ugly color palette it looks like a sat morning cartoon. If it has better colors it would look better
I feel exact the same thing
they changed his hair to blue because both trunks are supposed to have the same hair color as bulma which was how it was in the original dbz manga, toei actually messed it up by giving him purple hair in the dbz anime but then messed up AGAIN in the anime by giving kid trunks purple hair, the dbs manga is the only one which fixes this by giving bulma and both trunks blue hair
Bulma had lavender hair in the manga but Toei made it blue in the anime for some reason. They decided to fix Bulma and Trunks having differently colored hair in Super, but didn't correct Bulma's hair, instead strangely making Trunks share the incorrect blue instead