Waqas Farid I wouldn't. I feel like egpus are still really bad value. You aren't getting the full performance of the gpu when you hook it up to a laptop.
@@ACE112ACE112 Depends on your use case. There's not as much as bottleneck for 3d rendering tasks. You do make a valid point. For me personally, I think the only other option would be a small form factor PC - which means I'd have to spend a minimum of 1k on top of the GPU.
Does nvidia only make so many high end graphics cards to keep the price ridiculously high or are they hard to build? Seems very sketchy and im sure they knew they would get bought out like every other new graphics card
If you own a 2080ti already you're still gonna have one of the most powerful GPUs out there since most people will probably still have the 2060,or even get 3050/3060s. Yall may have a double priced ~3060ti-3070 but as long as you put it to good use then it'll pay itself off.
@@Andreas_Mann except currently, there are zero 3080 on the market and they cost way more, than 700. It is more around 1000 and even more for other models, so 2080 TI is better cost per dollar considering that.
@@darthnox4584 Patience is the keyword. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia is in overdrive mode right now - shitting themselves because they might lose lots of buyers to AMD. Although they should have expected that from the start.
3070 seems to be a tiny bit slower than 2080 ti according to Nvidia's own marketing slide, it's slower in 2 games and faster in 2 games as per that slide. Should still be pretty good.
Thank you so much for doing this. I have a 2080 Ti and honestly can't say I would upgrade. The 3080 is definitely faster, but seeing the 2080 Ti perform so well at 4K really makes it seem pointless to upgrade. Thanks again. I'll be holding out till the 4000 series for sure.
the problem with holding out for 4000 series is likely youll end up with the same issue as what happened to the 3000 series. None will be available and by the time prices start coming down again it'll almost be time for 5000 series and might as well wait for 5000 series rinse repeat. Until companies step up production to deal with the fact that scalpers and miners buy up all stock as soon as stock exists (which is unlikely cause they're all clever greedy little bastards) there will be constant shortages. I myself am selling my 2080TI for 700 bucks and getting a 3080 for 1100 so essentially 400 dollars for a newer better card and of course im getting the 12gb edition of the 3080 so im not giving up any VRAM and even gaining a little.
Just stumbled up on your channel and i love your presentation. Especially considering the Cost Per Frame at the end. Great that you not just calculated it the new price of the 2080 Ti but also considered the after market prices in comparison! Thanks!
I got a 2080 ti a while back and I don’t personally think it’s worth upgrading to a new one. Unless I can sell it for the same price or trade it in, there would be no point in having an extremely capable card just sitting around
I guess for most 2080ti owners...they own their graphic card and game at close to 4K. The 3080 offers 12-20 FPS over the 2080ti. At 700-£1000 it’s a hard sell, the OC 2080ti may make that even harder.....if you can sell your 2080ti and off set the 3080 cost it may be worth it. 12-20 FPS will still cost 500-£1000.
4K with a 2080 Ti? Well, I guess a few years ago that would have been an option, just barely. With newer triple A titles there isn't a chance in hell that would make any sense, unless you love low fps.
I think if you already own a 2080 Ti, better wait for an "RTX 3080 Ti" or something in between the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090. The 3090 is also an upgrade path. However, another (big) question mark for now is AMD's big Navi.
Surerly the price will come back down when Big Navi releases. (If they have enough stock). I picked up a 2080ti for $550 just before the 3080 launch (although calling it a launch might be a bit generous) I think that price is about right. People wanting anything above $600 unresonable.
I'm really interested to see what the RTX 3000 will look like on Laptops, the very high TDP can be a problem and it can happen that they are much weaker compared to past generations, but we will see
Got that exact 2080ti for $325... $3080s still going for 6-7 hundy. Not a bad pickup. I'll pick up a 3090ti when 5k series comes out. Glad I returned the 3090ti I bought earlier this year and got this instead.
Nice ending!! I thought you might cut it at the last word as always😅👍🏻 But why wasn't BFV, Metro Exodus & SoTR benchmarked with RTX ON? Maybe test Quake II RTX & Minecraft RTX as well, or Deliver us the Moon, Ghost Runner?
I have a 2080Ti in my rig at the moment and might consider upgrading to a 30-series, but only after I see what Apple's M1X release looks like later in 2021. I got burned purchasing the 2080Ti. It was a costly purchase even before the 30-series was announced, and that was a hard pill to swallow. So basically, nVidia screwed 2080Ti owners TWICE. Need to be more cautious about when I open up my wallet from here on out. Hoping the M1X will do to nVidia what nVidia did to 20-series customers . . .
I guess that ironically, that's the best time to buy 2080ti if you can find a good deal for an used one, at least in my country. In Poland 3000 series is so dramatically overpriced (like 2 times the starting price - and we're talking here about low tier models, like Ventus or Eagle), that it absolutely doesn't make any sense to invest your money into it. I mean, less than 30 frames worse (but even then, more than enough) performance for twice less price tag? Count me in for 2080ti until all of those stock shortages will come to a past.
Imajemo velje podobnu situaciju s RTX 30xx v Ukrajině. Napriklad, 3080 koštuje blizko 2000$ na našem internet-trgu, a v medžučasje RTX 2080 Ti možno je kupiti za 750$. Jesm cělkovito zgodny, že v Januaru 2021 lěpše je čekati abo kupiti staru generaciju, 20xx.
it wil be useless in any laptop with 3000 series. bcoz desktop 3000 series is so higher TDP from 2000 series. almost 80 to 100 TDP. so we have to see what nvidia do for lower the TDP with 3000 series in notebook.
If you find use for 2080ti then yeah, but if you're going to sell it and buy 3080, then hell no. Like every upgrade is worth in your situation. Even 1080 to 1080ti is worth it as you're not losing anything.
i know that this question isnt related to the video but how do i check what hz i will get on a laptop? i plan on buying the lenovo legion Y540-17IRH-PG0, or could you answer me if it has over 100hz? thanks jarrod
Well 2 years later in may of 2022 the 4000 series is coming soon and it makes absolutely no sense to upgrade until the 4000s are out, even if you do to a 3080TI the 4000 will flush the price down on the previous two generations. So... I'd hold off. For me too at this stage going past the RTX 2080TI would require a new motherboard.
I think gaming companies should focus on optimizing games for the most common setups instead of releasing half released games, I think with optimization you could play pretty comfortable 4k with the 60 series cards
As a 2080ti user I won't upgrade - for now. And since the launch of the 3000s sucked anyways, I CAN'T upgrade even if I wanted to. And as an 1440p@144Hz user I even think that a 20% faster GPU for 700 bucks is not a great deal. So, I will wait for the 3080ti OR upgrade my monitor to UWQHD and get the 3080 anyways... so... we'll se what Nvidia brings up in the next weeks and months. Also I will have a look at AMD this time.
This is video is from Oct 2020; what I want to know is were the hell were you finding 3080's for $700? 1.5 years later those things used are still going for over $1000.
I plan on waiting till next year, as I have other priorities right now and I want the 20GB version. Also I'll know what AMD had to offer by then. My use case of VR.
@@baphomathedude8057 I don't know about that haven't heard them confirm anything, either way 20GB 3080 isn't happening, where they canceled it or never really existed. It seems they maybe getting a 3080 Ti with 20GB in the near future. Even better, I wanted a Ti anyway. I can wait early 2021 is fine for me if that rumored 308o Ti materializes. That's the one I want.
I think there's a couple "issues" here which you couldn't really discuss. A, 3080's appear to be unobtanium at the moment. B, big navi might be a consideration if performance is comparable. Excited to see how close big navi gets even though I'm a laptop user.
it's a new card of course it going to mope the floor with the 20 series. it's a no brainer but the performance to me isn't what is preached. Even a 1080ti to this day will max out just about any game in 1080p. This whole 4k gaming thing for me is just reaching. What I can't fathom is why the 30series entry and mid range cards are not more expensive yet perform better than the used to be king 2080ti card. boggles me.
If you can swing not having a card or having a low end card for a while, it makes total sense - 2080tis on eBay right now are going for almost $1000. It's insane. It makes total sense to sell that, buy a 3080 for 700 or 800 dollars, and have 200 bucks to spare
@Salt Maker since I’m new to pc barely starting I’m just frustrated choosing which graphics card get I want 4K gameplay without having any problems I was look at the 2080 ti but I came across to this video about the 3080 but nvidia gpu are sold out everywhere.
I have a 2080ti in my current machine and it has been an absolute beast for years. But I'm gonna be moving to a dual PC streaming setup soon. I'm finding it hard to decide which card I want to get. Because the toxic trait in me wants to always be getting a card that is better than what I currently have. But since I am splitting the work load that each PC has, I feel like I don't need to go super fancy with the new build. Not sure what to do.
Had to press the dislike button. I mean I can't trust a single one of your benchmarks if you can't even type 1 singular line to disable an FPS cap... I mean how can I trust someone to go back to the exact same spot for a benchmark when they're just showing bar graphs and no gameplay whatsoever AND can't even spend 3 minutes figuring out how to disable an FPS cap?
If I upgrade my 2080 TI I'll have to get a new water block and rework a few things. Think I'll wait for some time. Think I'll also keep my 3950X for a while longer.
what i'm wondering is, is it worth picking up the 2080 ti second hand over the unavailable 3070 and 3080, for 1080p 144fps gaming, or will it get obsolete fast?
I hope laptops with higher end graphics cards like the 2080 or 3070 will be more affordable in the future. well because the 3070 is going to be like $500 and the 3060 will be even cheaper than that.
The real question is if there is a perceivable difference. 127fps vs 139fps doesn't sound like much (and it's not if all else is equal) but res and refresh rate are not the only factors. Which has a more detailed image 1080p 120fps vs 4k 60fps? Answer = it depends on the bit rate. If all else is equal they would be about the same. A 2k digital theater movie file at 24fps is over twice as detailed as a 4k blu ray at 24fps because the uncompressed theater movie files have a way higher bit rate. I.e. the same movie would take 500gb at the theater vs 200gb on the 4k disc. It's about how much information gets to your eyes each second. The key point is... doesn't the 30 series have some additional advantages re frame drawing speed that is somewhat equivalent to a higher bitrate? And lower lag (which may be perceived as "smoothness")?
I overclocked my 2080ti to run at 2100 Mhz (unstable if i go any higher without applying a concerning amount of voltage, which would degrade the card faster) and used a nzxt g12 adapter to cool it with a 360mm aio cooler and used liquid metal thermal compound, at full load and prolonged use it doesnt go above 42°C. It performs extremely well and beat quite a few 3080s (probably bad runs though) when i used 3d benchmark. The 2080ti is still a very powerful card, and putting some effort keep the orriginal steep price (i got mine secondhand) somewhat worth it.
Well it looks like 3080 is still worth it. For me I just regret building a Ryzen 5 3400g into a deskmini case... I am seeing some extremely nice 2060/2070/5600xt half sized cards on the market....😅
The upgrade is meaningful for people coming from older generations like Maxwell or Pascal. Turing was horrible in terms of performance per dollar didn't feel like a regular generational upgrade at all. Ampere is better at that, if you ignore the power efficiency. An upgrade is supposed to improve all the metrics like performance per dollar and power efficiency. Sadly, Pascal was the last gen that actually did that.
I just wanted to mention that the 3080 prices are out of date due to the gpu being out of stock and when it goes back into stock it will come with inflated prices (900 $ / 1000 $) and in relation to 2080ti in my country it is already possible to find it on the market new for ($ 900 / $ 1000). Due to the long wait on the part of consumers for the 3080, which will probably only be in stock from next year, it has led many of the consumers to start making high offers for the used 2080ti (800 $ / 900 $) I speak from my own experience due to the fact that already I was offered $ 850 for my 2080ti but I declined the offer because I don't intend to buy a 3080/3090 but rather wait a little longer for the new 4000 series and then sell the 2080ti because the leap in performance from the 2080ti to the new generation doesn't justifies upgrading even if the prices are attractive.
You can expect a drop of about 15%. Unlikely to make a difference, unless you're already reaching a playability limit. I'd never buy an ultrawide myself though, absolutely awful for gaming.
My Rog strix 3080 10gb literally smashes most games in 3440x1440p ultra- high settings. Its the best card on the market right now since you can get em for literally nothing (500-650usd). Ill keep my 3080 since there is no reason at all to upgrade from a 3080-3090 if you play in 1440p, hell it even works more than fine for 60fps 4k gaming.
If you have a 2080 TI, in my opinion, you are better off keeping it, because it is still one of the fastest GPUs out there, even compared to 3080. Especially if you can overclock it, and there are even better OC models of the 2080 TI which are water cooled. Of course, the 3080 is better, but you need to ask yourself if a performance ranging from +5% to about 20% is worth paying for a GPU, which is just overpriced as the 2080 TI was - 700 dollars is a scenario which was true for single digits users (and video reviewers got the 3080 sent to them a masse). 3080 currently is costing 1000 euros and more in Europe, and those models which are "listed" lower, are long out of stock. That said, there is still the problem many 3080 currently have with the poscaps, which Nvidia solved by lowering the clocks of 3080 in VC Bios, reducing the lead on 2080 TI. Considering the 2080 TI will be still slightly faster than 3070 in most games, due to better bandwidth and memory speed, upgrading to 3080 from 2080 TI is not really worth it. Of course, if you are coming from a lower performance or older card, its different, and 3080 is great.
Dear Sir I am using Acer Helios 300 i7 9750h With 32gb ram and GTX 1660ti I want to upgrade it to Egpu for more FPS So can You please tell me What GPU shall I buy and Can it supports RTX 2080
Super informative! All I needed to hear! I use Blender so the increased performance is a must! I still want to wait and see what AMD has to offer but I am close to ordering a 3080.
As I've learned, one should stick to Nvidia cards for 3D rendering and stuff. Those cuda cores and the fact that most renderers don't support AMD anyway.
I’m trying to build a new rig because mine is just god awful right now. I want the 3070 or the 3080, and I can get a 3080 for around $740 right now but I can get a 2080ti for half that. I just want to be able to have discord open while playing warzone with like 140fps at 1440. I think I’ll go with the 3080 just for future proofing.
The thing is who cares if at 4k the difference is more pronounced between the 3080 and the 2080 Ti? If the 3080 gives you 27 FPS and the RTX 2080 Ti gives you 3 FPS in something, it doesn't change the fact that they are both not good enough for 4k. Being better doesn't mean being good. This is what nVidia has been pushing a lot including with the 3090 and 8k. Yeah it may be the fastest card at 8k, but it still sucks. Maybe it sucks less. But it still sucks.
Hi quick question since you have a gtx 1650. Do you by any chance play Fallout 4? If so is it a good price/performance card for that game? I want to build a cheap gaming rig for gaming and my main game will be Fallout 4. Thanks in advance and have a good day!
@@_M27_ well ihave no idea about fallout 4 but since you r building a pc i will advice of buying an amd rx570 gpu as its cheaper than gtx 1650 and provides more performance than gtx 1650
Pretty much no reason to upgrade unless you are gaming in 4k if you have a 2080ti.....if you have less than a 2080ti then it justifies an upgrade. But if I already spent 1k+ for a 2080ti why would you spend another 750+ for another GPU??
RTX 30 series should of been what the RTX 20 should be for performance and pricing... It makes it looks like a good and pricing. By comparing the RYX 30 series to the RTX 20 series. It is still expensive.
I get that people love to troll fortnite, but not including the most popular game (according to twitch stats) in these comparisons is disappointing. Sick In Flames shirt btw.
I panicked and sold my 2080S the day before 3080 came out and had no luck getting one... So I settled with a 1080ti-is it worth getting a 2080ti for $700?
I just watched this video, when a 3080 is available around 2500-2700 USD worth currency, for half I would able to purchase a RTX 2080 TI, still too high price, but my RTX 2070 broke and I thought, if I buy a new card I will go with a stronger one. And I play in 1080p and I don't want to change my card in the next 2 years (at least).
I've also compared the 2080 Ti against the 3090 here: ruclips.net/video/nRsYDVvMI6A/видео.html
I'd love to see the egpu with a 3080 and a more powerful laptop!
Why do all the Nvidia graphics cards have 1gb last like the 1080ti has 12gb of ram and the 2080ti have 11gb of ram and the 3080ti has 10gb of ram?
Waqas Farid I wouldn't. I feel like egpus are still really bad value. You aren't getting the full performance of the gpu when you hook it up to a laptop.
@@ACE112ACE112 Depends on your use case. There's not as much as bottleneck for 3d rendering tasks. You do make a valid point. For me personally, I think the only other option would be a small form factor PC - which means I'd have to spend a minimum of 1k on top of the GPU.
Does nvidia only make so many high end graphics cards to keep the price ridiculously high or are they hard to build? Seems very sketchy and im sure they knew they would get bought out like every other new graphics card
If you own a 2080ti already you're still gonna have one of the most powerful GPUs out there since most people will probably still have the 2060,or even get 3050/3060s. Yall may have a double priced ~3060ti-3070 but as long as you put it to good use then it'll pay itself off.
or sell it for 700 and buy a rtx 3080 if you can
True, no reason to upgrade from a 2080 TI to 3080, especially when OC.
@@Andreas_Mann except currently, there are zero 3080 on the market and they cost way more, than 700. It is more around 1000 and even more for other models, so 2080 TI is better cost per dollar considering that.
@@Andreas_Mann Yeah I think that's the play - if you can find a buyer of course.
@@darthnox4584 Patience is the keyword. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia is in overdrive mode right now - shitting themselves because they might lose lots of buyers to AMD. Although they should have expected that from the start.
if you had 1080 TI might be compelling, but with a 2080 TI, I would not upgrade
You're getting better in front of the camera. Keep it up!
Thanks!
Can’t wait to see how good the 3070 is
Me too!
Can't wait to see bow good 3060ti is 😬
3070 seems to be a tiny bit slower than 2080 ti according to Nvidia's own marketing slide, it's slower in 2 games and faster in 2 games as per that slide. Should still be pretty good.
@@JarrodsTech your thoughts on next gen graphic card after 1600 series on laptops
Me too, can't wait to see Jarrod's "3070 vs 2080 ti", best comparison videos around.
Thank you so much for doing this. I have a 2080 Ti and honestly can't say I would upgrade. The 3080 is definitely faster, but seeing the 2080 Ti perform so well at 4K really makes it seem pointless to upgrade. Thanks again. I'll be holding out till the 4000 series for sure.
the problem with holding out for 4000 series is likely youll end up with the same issue as what happened to the 3000 series. None will be available and by the time prices start coming down again it'll almost be time for 5000 series and might as well wait for 5000 series rinse repeat. Until companies step up production to deal with the fact that scalpers and miners buy up all stock as soon as stock exists (which is unlikely cause they're all clever greedy little bastards) there will be constant shortages.
I myself am selling my 2080TI for 700 bucks and getting a 3080 for 1100 so essentially 400 dollars for a newer better card and of course im getting the 12gb edition of the 3080 so im not giving up any VRAM and even gaining a little.
Still holding out till the 5000 series after seeing these prices? 😂
@@johnnyboy7534 Keep looking for deals. I got a 2080ti for $300 a few days ago on a refurbished sale.
Just stumbled up on your channel and i love your presentation. Especially considering the Cost Per Frame at the end. Great that you not just calculated it the new price of the 2080 Ti but also considered the after market prices in comparison! Thanks!
I got a 2080 ti a while back and I don’t personally think it’s worth upgrading to a new one. Unless I can sell it for the same price or trade it in, there would be no point in having an extremely capable card just sitting around
I guess for most 2080ti owners...they own their graphic card and game at close to 4K.
The 3080 offers 12-20 FPS over the 2080ti. At 700-£1000 it’s a hard sell, the OC 2080ti may make that even harder.....if you can sell your 2080ti and off set the 3080 cost it may be worth it. 12-20 FPS will still cost 500-£1000.
4K with a 2080 Ti?
Well, I guess a few years ago that would have been an option, just barely. With newer triple A titles there isn't a chance in hell that would make any sense, unless you love low fps.
So 3080 has twice as many CUDA cores, higher clocks, faster GDDR6X memory but in games is only around 20% faster than 2080 Ti... Kinda weird
It’s wrecks for cura
Spec overbloat
Should wait for rtx 4080 and 4090
If u have a 2080 yes
Depends if you need something now or not, always going to be something better around the corner.
True
I think if you already own a 2080 Ti, better wait for an "RTX 3080 Ti" or something in between the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090. The 3090 is also an upgrade path. However, another (big) question mark for now is AMD's big Navi.
Seeing 4K, Max settings at 60+fps makes me feel tingly
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nvidia and amd gotta step up their game. 144fps+ at 4k should be the goal! :D
Most people are still trying to sell their 2080Tis for around $1000+ on ebay
Surerly the price will come back down when Big Navi releases. (If they have enough stock). I picked up a 2080ti for $550 just before the 3080 launch (although calling it a launch might be a bit generous) I think that price is about right. People wanting anything above $600 unresonable.
$700 gpus? lmao i believe in unicorns too
I like how you do your benchmarks! :D
As soon as I get a 3080, one of my buddies will appreciate a good deal on a 2080ti
I'm really interested to see what the RTX 3000 will look like on Laptops, the very high TDP can be a problem and it can happen that they are much weaker compared to past generations, but we will see
Tbh just selling the 2080 ti alone would net over 50% of the of 3080’s price. Bless it for being 700$ haha
Got that exact 2080ti for $325... $3080s still going for 6-7 hundy. Not a bad pickup. I'll pick up a 3090ti when 5k series comes out. Glad I returned the 3090ti I bought earlier this year and got this instead.
Nice ending!! I thought you might cut it at the last word as always😅👍🏻
But why wasn't BFV, Metro Exodus & SoTR benchmarked with RTX ON?
Maybe test Quake II RTX & Minecraft RTX as well, or Deliver us the Moon, Ghost Runner?
I have a 2080Ti in my rig at the moment and might consider upgrading to a 30-series, but only after I see what Apple's M1X release looks like later in 2021. I got burned purchasing the 2080Ti. It was a costly purchase even before the 30-series was announced, and that was a hard pill to swallow. So basically, nVidia screwed 2080Ti owners TWICE. Need to be more cautious about when I open up my wallet from here on out. Hoping the M1X will do to nVidia what nVidia did to 20-series customers . . .
When Call of duty Cold War comes out will you test that?
I generally just replace what ever games I test with newer versions as they come out.
Vicious Mutiplayer and zombies are easy to run campaign is more graphically intense
@@Vicious6969 But i want to know if it can run 240hz or not
I guess that ironically, that's the best time to buy 2080ti if you can find a good deal for an used one, at least in my country. In Poland 3000 series is so dramatically overpriced (like 2 times the starting price - and we're talking here about low tier models, like Ventus or Eagle), that it absolutely doesn't make any sense to invest your money into it. I mean, less than 30 frames worse (but even then, more than enough) performance for twice less price tag? Count me in for 2080ti until all of those stock shortages will come to a past.
Imajemo velje podobnu situaciju s RTX 30xx v Ukrajině. Napriklad, 3080 koštuje blizko 2000$ na našem internet-trgu, a v medžučasje RTX 2080 Ti možno je kupiti za 750$. Jesm cělkovito zgodny, že v Januaru 2021 lěpše je čekati abo kupiti staru generaciju, 20xx.
wonder what these would be as mobile gpus.
The 3090 will probably be like a rtx 2070 on a desktop
GH0STXP 3090 gonna cost likr $4.5k in a laptop.
ACE112ACE112 so true, everyone be talking it being cheap. Not happening, gonna be hella expensive.
it wil be useless in any laptop with 3000 series. bcoz desktop 3000 series is so higher TDP from 2000 series. almost 80 to 100 TDP. so we have to see what nvidia do for lower the TDP with 3000 series in notebook.
killing kings65 The 3070 on a laptop will be cheap
Nice review, relevant and concise points :-)
Just got to purchase an RTX 3080 at a fantastic price. So excited for it to arrive in 3 days.
It’s worth it imo.
Moved the 2080ti to my wife’s PC so she will be ready to go for Elder Scrolls VI.
Nice!
If you find use for 2080ti then yeah, but if you're going to sell it and buy 3080, then hell no. Like every upgrade is worth in your situation. Even 1080 to 1080ti is worth it as you're not losing anything.
i know that this question isnt related to the video but how do i check what hz i will get on a laptop? i plan on buying the lenovo legion Y540-17IRH-PG0, or could you answer me if it has over 100hz? thanks jarrod
It'll say it in the specs and if it doesn't assume its mega shit
@@gileschenery974 honestly, i looked at the specs, can't find shit, but the lenovo y540 is considered one of the best budget gaming laptops out there
@@nierax327 its 144 mate
@@gileschenery974 right, im dumb, thank you
Well 2 years later in may of 2022 the 4000 series is coming soon and it makes absolutely no sense to upgrade until the 4000s are out, even if you do to a 3080TI the 4000 will flush the price down on the previous two generations. So...
I'd hold off. For me too at this stage going past the RTX 2080TI would require a new motherboard.
I think gaming companies should focus on optimizing games for the most common setups instead of releasing half released games, I think with optimization you could play pretty comfortable 4k with the 60 series cards
As a 2080ti user I won't upgrade - for now. And since the launch of the 3000s sucked anyways, I CAN'T upgrade even if I wanted to.
And as an 1440p@144Hz user I even think that a 20% faster GPU for 700 bucks is not a great deal.
So, I will wait for the 3080ti OR upgrade my monitor to UWQHD and get the 3080 anyways... so... we'll se what Nvidia brings up in the next weeks and months.
Also I will have a look at AMD this time.
What are your thoughts on mobile versions of these new GPUs?
Majorly gimped power targets
I'm building a single rig for streaming and gaming it has a Intel i9 9900k I just need a GPU am I better off getting the 3080 over the 2080 ti?
Yes. Its a better card.
This is video is from Oct 2020; what I want to know is were the hell were you finding 3080's for $700? 1.5 years later those things used are still going for over $1000.
I plan on waiting till next year, as I have other priorities right now and I want the 20GB version. Also I'll know what AMD had to offer by then. My use case of VR.
Yeah fair enough
20Gb version... I think Nvidia confirmed that was a lie
@@baphomathedude8057 I don't know about that haven't heard them confirm anything, either way 20GB 3080 isn't happening, where they canceled it or never really existed. It seems they maybe getting a 3080 Ti with 20GB in the near future. Even better, I wanted a Ti anyway.
I can wait early 2021 is fine for me if that rumored 308o Ti materializes. That's the one I want.
@Jeremy R 3080 Ti will do just fine.
I think there's a couple "issues" here which you couldn't really discuss. A, 3080's appear to be unobtanium at the moment. B, big navi might be a consideration if performance is comparable. Excited to see how close big navi gets even though I'm a laptop user.
I think I joked about the availability a couple times in the video, and also teased the Radeon 6000 comparisons at the end :)
still 2080ti don`t upgrade to 3080 for 2500$ = +25% gain
Thank you so much for your work man !
Cheers!
I live in the uk and i just wanted to know when asus will make more of the rtx 3090 gpu cards so that the price can be reduced on shops like amazon?
it's a new card of course it going to mope the floor with the 20 series. it's a no brainer but the performance to me isn't what is preached. Even a 1080ti to this day will max out just about any game in 1080p. This whole 4k gaming thing for me is just reaching. What I can't fathom is why the 30series entry and mid range cards are not more expensive yet perform better than the used to be king 2080ti card. boggles me.
Good thing I got my 2080TI from a friend for just the price of shipping($65) to upgrade. Good friends are great to have!!! :)
Imagine feeling the need to upgrade a 2080 ti
*everyone that sold their 2080 Ti for
If you can swing not having a card or having a low end card for a while, it makes total sense - 2080tis on eBay right now are going for almost $1000. It's insane. It makes total sense to sell that, buy a 3080 for 700 or 800 dollars, and have 200 bucks to spare
sold my 2080super for 500$ and got a 2080ti for 550, now thats a good deal :D
@ixy sure but that means waiting for like 2 more months and basically getting the same thing with less vram
@Salt Maker why are you calling someone a moron because he has a differant opinion that you like wtf is wrong with people on here
@Salt Maker so 2080 ti is choice cause I’m still debating which one to get
@Salt Maker since I’m new to pc barely starting I’m just frustrated choosing which graphics card get I want 4K gameplay without having any problems I was look at the 2080 ti but I came across to this video about the 3080 but nvidia gpu are sold out everywhere.
I have a 2080ti in my current machine and it has been an absolute beast for years. But I'm gonna be moving to a dual PC streaming setup soon. I'm finding it hard to decide which card I want to get. Because the toxic trait in me wants to always be getting a card that is better than what I currently have. But since I am splitting the work load that each PC has, I feel like I don't need to go super fancy with the new build. Not sure what to do.
For a card thats no where to be found, pretty much every youtuber seems to have one. I wonder what's happening here.
RUclipsrs just have sources that the general public don't.
Had to press the dislike button. I mean I can't trust a single one of your benchmarks if you can't even type 1 singular line to disable an FPS cap...
I mean how can I trust someone to go back to the exact same spot for a benchmark when they're just showing bar graphs and no gameplay whatsoever AND can't even spend 3 minutes figuring out how to disable an FPS cap?
2020 predater helios 300 update? Also i'm curious as to whether or not more laptops with the new 115w rtx 2060 are coming out
If I upgrade my 2080 TI I'll have to get a new water block and rework a few things. Think I'll wait for some time. Think I'll also keep my 3950X for a while longer.
Think i'll hold on to my 2080Ti until there is a significant gap at 1440p
Amazing shirt Jarrod! Love them. Also great vid. 🤣
Thanks! 🤘
what i'm wondering is, is it worth picking up the 2080 ti second hand over the unavailable 3070 and 3080, for 1080p 144fps gaming, or will it get obsolete fast?
It'll be good for years buddy. I would get.
@@kars372 ill see whats in stock once i get a job to affird any of them haha
Would love to sit down and decide if it is worth the upgrade but stock availability already answered my question :) going team RED for the first time.
I hope laptops with higher end graphics cards like the 2080 or 3070 will be more affordable in the future. well because the 3070 is going to be like $500 and the 3060 will be even cheaper than that.
The real question is if there is a perceivable difference. 127fps vs 139fps doesn't sound like much (and it's not if all else is equal) but res and refresh rate are not the only factors.
Which has a more detailed image 1080p 120fps vs 4k 60fps? Answer = it depends on the bit rate. If all else is equal they would be about the same.
A 2k digital theater movie file at 24fps is over twice as detailed as a 4k blu ray at 24fps because the uncompressed theater movie files have a way higher bit rate. I.e. the same movie would take 500gb at the theater vs 200gb on the 4k disc.
It's about how much information gets to your eyes each second. The key point is... doesn't the 30 series have some additional advantages re frame drawing speed that is somewhat equivalent to a higher bitrate? And lower lag (which may be perceived as "smoothness")?
i5 10300h in Acer Predator Helios 300
Or
i7 9750h in MSI GF75 Thin
All other specs are the same and the price too.
Which one do you suggest?!
Thanks
I overclocked my 2080ti to run at 2100 Mhz (unstable if i go any higher without applying a concerning amount of voltage, which would degrade the card faster) and used a nzxt g12 adapter to cool it with a 360mm aio cooler and used liquid metal thermal compound, at full load and prolonged use it doesnt go above 42°C. It performs extremely well and beat quite a few 3080s (probably bad runs though) when i used 3d benchmark. The 2080ti is still a very powerful card, and putting some effort keep the orriginal steep price (i got mine secondhand) somewhat worth it.
Well it looks like 3080 is still worth it. For me I just regret building a Ryzen 5 3400g into a deskmini case... I am seeing some extremely nice 2060/2070/5600xt half sized cards on the market....😅
The upgrade is meaningful for people coming from older generations like Maxwell or Pascal. Turing was horrible in terms of performance per dollar didn't feel like a regular generational upgrade at all. Ampere is better at that, if you ignore the power efficiency. An upgrade is supposed to improve all the metrics like performance per dollar and power efficiency. Sadly, Pascal was the last gen that actually did that.
I just wanted to mention that the 3080 prices are out of date due to the gpu being out of stock and when it goes back into stock it will come with inflated prices (900 $ / 1000 $) and in relation to 2080ti in my country it is already possible to find it on the market new for ($ 900 / $ 1000). Due to the long wait on the part of consumers for the 3080, which will probably only be in stock from next year, it has led many of the consumers to start making high offers for the used 2080ti (800 $ / 900 $) I speak from my own experience due to the fact that already I was offered $ 850 for my 2080ti but I declined the offer because I don't intend to buy a 3080/3090 but rather wait a little longer for the new 4000 series and then sell the 2080ti because the leap in performance from the 2080ti to the new generation doesn't justifies upgrading even if the prices are attractive.
What about 1440p ultrawide? How much would that affect performance rates?
You can expect a drop of about 15%. Unlikely to make a difference, unless you're already reaching a playability limit.
I'd never buy an ultrawide myself though, absolutely awful for gaming.
2080ti to 4080 is great for upgrading
Me with my 1650 : yes
WAIT HOLD ON U CAN GET MORE THAN 360FPS i got the feeling of when someone says he has 128gb of ram
My Rog strix 3080 10gb literally smashes most games in 3440x1440p ultra- high settings.
Its the best card on the market right now since you can get em for literally nothing (500-650usd).
Ill keep my 3080 since there is no reason at all to upgrade from a 3080-3090 if you play in 1440p, hell it even works more than fine for 60fps 4k gaming.
People are still charging high price for 2080 ti are delusional
i like the 2080ti. a used 2080ti is a lot more cheaper than 3080. having more vram and runs cooler. basically a undervolted 3080
Should I buy a laptop now or do you think it's worth waiting for rtx 3000 series gpu laptops
If you have a 2080 TI, in my opinion, you are better off keeping it, because it is still one of the fastest GPUs out there, even compared to 3080. Especially if you can overclock it, and there are even better OC models of the 2080 TI which are water cooled. Of course, the 3080 is better, but you need to ask yourself if a performance ranging from +5% to about 20% is worth paying for a GPU, which is just overpriced as the 2080 TI was - 700 dollars is a scenario which was true for single digits users (and video reviewers got the 3080 sent to them a masse). 3080 currently is costing 1000 euros and more in Europe, and those models which are "listed" lower, are long out of stock. That said, there is still the problem many 3080 currently have with the poscaps, which Nvidia solved by lowering the clocks of 3080 in VC Bios, reducing the lead on 2080 TI. Considering the 2080 TI will be still slightly faster than 3070 in most games, due to better bandwidth and memory speed, upgrading to 3080 from 2080 TI is not really worth it. Of course, if you are coming from a lower performance or older card, its different, and 3080 is great.
Dear Sir I am using Acer Helios 300 i7 9750h With 32gb ram and GTX 1660ti I want to upgrade it to Egpu for more FPS So can You please tell me What GPU shall I buy and Can it supports RTX 2080
Helios doesn't have Thunderbolt so no eGPU unless you plan on using M.2 PCIe.
@@JarrodsTech Yes I will use M.2 Pcie But I don't know which GPU Will be great for High FPS
2nd..... its not your usually release hour jarrod... but Thankyou for your videos treat
Australia went forward 1 hour for day light saving so this is when it happens now 😎
When it comes to comparisons, this is the best channel out on RUclips. Jarrod gives more info then my seniors aty office...lol
I got confused and thought I saw this already, but then realized the previous video was on the 3090
Haha yeah similar intro / format I guess.
Super informative! All I needed to hear! I use Blender so the increased performance is a must! I still want to wait and see what AMD has to offer but I am close to ordering a 3080.
As I've learned, one should stick to Nvidia cards for 3D rendering and stuff. Those cuda cores and the fact that most renderers don't support AMD anyway.
I’m trying to build a new rig because mine is just god awful right now. I want the 3070 or the 3080, and I can get a 3080 for around $740 right now but I can get a 2080ti for half that. I just want to be able to have discord open while playing warzone with like 140fps at 1440. I think I’ll go with the 3080 just for future proofing.
I would wait for 4080
@@djangojansen7648 Why? So they can all be sold out in 3 seconds when a 3070 is more than capable
Wow, u can run those test with no CPU?
Currently trying to decide to get a 3080 for $300 or a 2080ti for $235.
The thing is who cares if at 4k the difference is more pronounced between the 3080 and the 2080 Ti? If the 3080 gives you 27 FPS and the RTX 2080 Ti gives you 3 FPS in something, it doesn't change the fact that they are both not good enough for 4k. Being better doesn't mean being good. This is what nVidia has been pushing a lot including with the 3090 and 8k. Yeah it may be the fastest card at 8k, but it still sucks. Maybe it sucks less. But it still sucks.
No reason to upgrade. 2080 Ti is still an epicly top tier card
Indeed, but if buying today it makes less sense unless a good price
I just wanna know when he saw a 2080ti for the price of a 3080’s msrp on eBay.. the used market is more hurtful than the availability shortages
well i am happy with gtx 1650
Hi quick question since you have a gtx 1650. Do you by any chance play Fallout 4? If so is it a good price/performance card for that game? I want to build a cheap gaming rig for gaming and my main game will be Fallout 4. Thanks in advance and have a good day!
@@_M27_ well ihave no idea about fallout 4 but since you r building a pc i will advice of buying an amd rx570 gpu as its cheaper than gtx 1650 and provides more performance than gtx 1650
@@_M27_ well you can get 60 fpss on high settings on gtx 1650 i googled it
ate the 2080ti for breakfast not even close , so impressive how far the gpus have come
I got my 2080 TI for $800 less than the 3080 last month. Soooo happy cause I have a 240hz 1080p monitor :)
Pretty much no reason to upgrade unless you are gaming in 4k if you have a 2080ti.....if you have less than a 2080ti then it justifies an upgrade. But if I already spent 1k+ for a 2080ti why would you spend another 750+ for another GPU??
Went from a gtx 750 ti to a 2080 ti big ass upgrade i dont need to upgrade for a long time
thats one big ole gpu
ole chonker
Holding my 2080ti. Ultimately don’t need much more than a vive pro can ask for.
I don't understand this video, so you arrived to same results that hundreds of RUclipsrs already posted 2 weeks ago ?
RTX 30 series should of been what the RTX 20 should be for performance and pricing...
It makes it looks like a good and pricing. By comparing the RYX 30 series to the RTX 20 series.
It is still expensive.
I get that people love to troll fortnite, but not including the most popular game (according to twitch stats) in these comparisons is disappointing. Sick In Flames shirt btw.
I panicked and sold my 2080S the day before 3080 came out and had no luck getting one... So I settled with a 1080ti-is it worth getting a 2080ti for $700?
Front mounting radiator with tubes on top is a big nono
can we all agree that the 2080 ti you used for this test is a pretty beeft up version?
I just watched this video, when a 3080 is available around 2500-2700 USD worth currency, for half I would able to purchase a RTX 2080 TI, still too high price, but my RTX 2070 broke and I thought, if I buy a new card I will go with a stronger one. And I play in 1080p and I don't want to change my card in the next 2 years (at least).
1:25 Why does it say 'stop benchmarking' in the bottom right corner? weird
It is an in-game benchmark, that is the key you press if you want to interrupt it instead of watching it entirely
@@TheDeathstar2000 Oh...I thought the game was telling him to stop benchmarking lol
Bought something cheaper, could it be called upgrade?😅
Yes
does a 2060 laptop worth buying now? for 1080p gaming
Hey Jarrod, When will be IdeaPad Gaming 3 full review ??? Can we expect in 2 days ???
I'll do you one better, it's the next video that goes up in 13 hours time.
Que cámara esta usando?
in flames t shirt ftw
Doesn't really matter since 3080 isn't available anyway so....