Can you add Minecraft ultra shaders combined with with high res texture packs and with chunk render at 64 chunks render distance (even 3090 only gets just 100fps without shaders and default textures at max render distance 😬) Minecraft java is a great benchmark tool be sure to use optifine for shaders btwy
@@midnight-breaker Ryzen 7000, we may know more around november about that one. We lack information right now. 6950x Doing well also agaist the rtx 3000 so long the is no ray tracing.
Can you compare RTX 4090 using older CPUs as well. I'm interested to see how it performs in 1440p and 4K with the 10900K and Ryzen 5000. Do gamers even need to consider Ryzen 7000 or Intel 12/13 gen if they have an older CPU... or is it worth it to just get a 4090 and be done with it?
Jarrod, I appreciated the highlighting of numbers/bar graph while you explain the differences. It was a solid way for viewers such as myself to follow along. Thank you and hopefully it was not too much extra work! Have a great day!
I was about to say the same! The amount of effort he puts into these videos must be more appreciated! Imo Jarrod is the best tech reviewer💯,love his videos❤️
I play 4k 120 hz on half high half low settings on my Alienware x17. 11800h and 3080. It’s not as high fps of course but I certain lock in 120 in some games
my 3080 and 12700k can hit 4k 120 on most games, high settings , PUBG being my favorite game hits 4k 120 easily , the more recent demanding games like battlefield 2042, etc I need dlss for those for sure
If you buy this card for 1080p I hope they throw it at your head. It's so ridiculously overpowered for 1080p performance, even if you have a 240Hz display if you're really interested in something like Cyberpunk having incredible visuals then get a 1440p or 4K display first and pair it with a 3090ti, it'll be much more rewarding than this GPU and cost about the same.
@@zakabog I’m playing on a 1440p 240Hz display right now, which I agree it would be way overkill for. But, I’m going to be switching to the Zowie 360Hz that just came out and would like to be close to stable around 360. I also don’t play singleplayer games.
@@strahfe If you're playing 1080p at even 360Hz the card is way overpowered. If you're playing 1440p at 144Hz then it's a reasonable purchase, but there aren't any multiplayer games that need a 4090 for 1080p at 360Hz...
1080p data it's just nice to have, realistically you didn't pay this much to play @1080p. *The way it's meant to be played* @1440p to 4K with very playable FPS.
Yea man if I wasn't balls deep into VR I would've gotten a 3090 ti for a thousand last week but I swear VR games are so badly optimized you basically need something like a 4090 just to play Microsoft flight simulator in VR at anything more than 35fps
@@zachhouston514 What? Genuinely great 4K 144hz IPS monitors are around $400 last time I checked and it's not long ago people were paying +$1000 for a 27" 1440p 144hz monitor (five years ago maybe).
Thank you for all your hard work. That “Cost per frame” really put things into perspective. makes me feel better about pulling the trigger on a 3090ti on sale.
@@AC-hj9tvI saw a 3090 ti founders edition at microcenter for 750 . It's tempting to get it even tho I have a 3080. Got approved for 1k credit at microcenter so it makes it even more tempting. But I really wanna wait till the 5090 drops so sales can come even down even more
It looks like the new architecture is more power efficient, so we should see something, at least at the lower end. But I think we've already pretty much reached the watt and heat limits of laptops. Can you imagine a laptop version of the 4080?
This could be the generation, where even the 4050 laptop cards can get huge performance, especially with dlss3 and frame generation and might beat the 3060 laptop
Lmao that’s why I bought a 3080 laptop for $3.2k. When gpu prices were that retarded, I was actually getting a deal on an Alienware. Nvidia loves the scalpers
@@technicalactivity Dang, I got owned by paying $2,000 for a 3090 in 2020. Oh, but wait, I mined Ethereum at around $12/day payout when not playing. So, I got a "free" card and then some. ;)
I bought a 3090ti for $850 last week from a guy who was going to buy a 4090. One of my best buys ever and the price to performance is huge for me. Gonna skip the 40 series
It has been a while since the last time you review a desktop gpu. Really glad you got your hands on a 4090. Did Nvidia lent you a 4090 for review or bought it yourself?
4000 laptop version wont be available until as early as november next year and as late as october. because its usually a year after desktop version release.
As much as I hated on the 40 series after the power draw rumors, I got an AiO model and it's absolutely insane. Actually it uses less power than 3090 Strix and 2080Ti Kingpin in games and being able to max out Forza Horizon 5 in 3840x1600 at Extreme preset @ 144Hz and the card not even hitting 100% utilization is nuts.
Thank you for showing all three resolutions 1080p, 1440p and 4k. Most are only showing 1080p or 4k. I have a 1440p 240hz monitor and wanted to see the uplift with the 4090.
I don't feel bad for them. They need to learn lol I'm glad the 3k series dropped. A lot of scalpers went broke . Hope they learned they lesson lol I saw a 3090 ti founders editions for 750 $ 😂
I know it would take alot of testing time, but would it be possible to show how 4000 series GPUs would behave in an eGPU enclosure? With modern CPUs like 6800h or 12700h...
@El Cactuar It is a small mistake caused by the fact I type on a phone. Is it really necessary to point out? Was the meaning of my comment not comprehendable?
You're gonna be bottlenecked pretty badly by the eGPU bus. Thunderbolt 3/4 is only A PCIe 3.0 x4 lane connection, which bottlenecks even something like an RX 6500 XT. If you need more GPU performance with a mobile part, it'd be better to just buy a gaming laptop with a 40 Series mobile GPU when they (hopefully) release next year
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 Depends on what games are you talking about, lot of people are still playing real old games like CS and "obsolete" ones like Fortnite.
Ehh, we love csgo, and its cpu intensive 😐, crysis remastered still runs like ppt slideshow on 4k, games never become obsolete, they are infact quite futuristic.
I 've watched many comparisons to the 4090 vs. the 3090/3090Ti/.. and In my opinion nobody could beat these structure, informations and charts from Jarrod
Helpful video thanks. I wonder how the 4090 would perform with this year's and last year's motherboards (MSI Support tells me the new 4090s are compatible with my Ace Max AMD). I wonder how the 4090 would perform with the Ryzen 9 5950x.
Wonderful review! Next time a comparison for a decent pc build for Video editing, 3d rendering and Music Production in the 3090ti v 4090. Thanks for sharing
@@timo7641 I’ve the bios unlocked thats why I can modify max wattage of the gpu, problem is the power supply is rated for 150watts, so there’s no many room left for OC. It’s an Hp Pavilion Gaming 15 cx-0
@@timo7641 temps are fine while gaming as I’ve the fps capped around 10% less than max frames (so gpu core don’t exceed 95% usage), as if the gpu was always at 99% response time/input lag would be pretty bad... Also important that I have the GPU undervolted (max 1.0v) and core overclocked and memory too. For the processor I have the CPU core and cache undervolted (-110mv), underclocked to 3500mhz and tdp max to 35watts
@@mohammedattal8887 LMAO r/whoosh, you didn't even get the statement ,may be read properly before commenting man, the potential to be a true/ideal 4K GPU is proportional to the number of frames it can handle at native resolution at higher graphics settings, as since in the recent market 500 Hz refresh rate monitor is already out, just for the brevity leaving aside the latency, still many high end AAA titles will struggle to hit the 500 mark on 4K native resolution, I guess no one would like to game at 100 fps on a 4K screen whilst the monitor is capable of rendering 500 fps. More pixels, more graphics power is needed. 4090 will easily be able to handle the most rtx games on lower resolution with medium graphics and some other tunings and dlss, however as you can see there is not much gap when it comes to 1080p, frames are capped mostly around same figures across all the 3 monsters, Jarrod has already told since some games are more CPU bound, we will probably expect better results with the Upcoming Meteor Lake from Intel. That is to be seen.
@@IILastIV Enumeration of facts is not equivalent to telling fairy tales bro and please try being within the context. Explicitly, I think its your own perception and past experiences that makes you think like that. Some random stranger, and I didn't even stumble against him in the first place. Good day.
This is a great video, thank you for making it. Those specs are so close to my new rig, I have the ROG Asus Crosshair Extreme x670e, G-Skill 6000MT at 30 CL, and iCue Elite H150i, however, so very close, I have the 3090ti Founders and MSI 4090 Gaming Treo and I game on a Samsung G9, so it really needs the extra power.
Thanks for this benchmarking vdo. I normally play at 1080p and I have a 240hz monitor, so I'd still want the 4090 in order to reach that 240fps cap for the games that allow it. The other thing I'm looking for is VR performance. Since it has to render 2 screens on my HP VR set, I'm looking for a minimum of 90 fps on 4k, since the VR headset has 90z max, but to future proof it, I'd want 144 fps on 4k
After not being able to get a ps5 locally and not being entirely happy with my series s, I decided to meet in the middle and build a PC around a 3060ti gpu. Haven’t built a PC since the 20 series rtx cards pre super. Super excited to get back into it. The 4090 is the 4k 120 fps next Gen marketed. That’s amazing
Hopefully getting a 4090 today (provided bots dont buy all of them) upgrading from a 970, building the rest of the system at Halloween! Cant wait and I'm praying I actually get one!
If I were u I would get a 3090ti way worth unless ur planning to play on 4k 144hz the time and even then u would still be taking a dip in fps if u were just to play in 1080 144hz
@@cuddlybearcx yeah cuz if you think about it, their are using max setting. ifwe lower it to normal is still good fps. my monitor is only capable of 164hz and is a 1440p so is not worth getting it tbh.
I just got a Microcenter ad in my email for various AIB 4090s and I'm all "I just bought a 3090 5 months ago... but that Cyberpunk RTX performance..." ...I also haven't played more than 2 hours of Cyberpunk. 🙃
Hi! I want to buy a 4K gaming laptop (I have never owned one). Do you have any idea about when the 4000 series laptops are going to be launch? Do you think there is going to be a significant difference between the performance of a 4080 laptop compared with a 3080? Or is it something which probably is mostly going to be noticed for the desktops? Would you recommend me to wait for the 4000 series laptops or should I get a 3080 laptop? Thanks in advance!
Not to mention the portable dialysis machine you'll be carrying after you sell your kidneys. Kidding aside, it doesn't seem like eGPUs are a good idea generally.
Considering your Australian, it would be nice if you put current AUD equivalents for pricing.I meant apart from the direct conversion, the story here in AUS is completely different. the 4090 is available here from between 3000-3500 AUD ($1900USD- 2200USD). It is significantly more expensive here.
These were basic Nvidia models of all cards..? You showed MSI cards at the beginning, but provided links to Nvidia models..? Where is the transparency here?
Just ordered an asus rog strix Rtx 3090. But in all honestly would you recommend a 1000w psu??? I have an 850w 80 plus gold, I don’t plan on overclocking than what the gpu comes with but… what’s recommended for a 3090 Ti or 4090?
Honestly, if the most powerful GPU on the market can't even run CP 2077 with 4k, full RT and no DLSS required @60fps... then what is the point in paying for it. May aswell just wait out for next generation and keep 30 series RTX card or upgrade to second hand 30 series if you don't have it.
4k ultra setting average 140fps almost every game that's something console players only dream about. However they still enjoy 30fps on 4k upscale that's kinda cute.
Yeah this card really only shines completely in the 4k range from what I've watched and 4k monitors are still way expensive compared to 1440p monitors. on top of that you can still stick with a 30 series and be happy to skip this gen
For VR users the 4090 solves everything. I'm able to run my G2 (2160 x 2160 per eye) at 120% resolution, max settings in AMS 2 at rock solid 90fps with no frame time drops in races with full grids of cars. I'm using the 5800x3d. What's more, the 4090 is incredibly efficient and cool. During Firestrike Ultra it scored 25,002 and didn't go above 52 Deg C at 70% fan speed. It is a stellar GPU that lives up to the price paid. I paid £1899 for mine on launch day.
As an owner of an RTX3090TI who primarily plays at 1080p, I won't be shelling out $1,700 on a 4090. However, with 8k starting to pick up steam, I'd really like to see 8k comparisons as well, since 4k is why you'd buy a 4090. Can games hit 60fps at 8k or was that not possible yet?
For creatives, using Blender, etc, the time savings on rendering are worth every penny. It would be nice if you did a couple of bench marks for those instead of comparing every computer game.
NVIDIA presenting us with a strong case why we should sell our kidneys!! LOL!😂 Though on a serious note... These performances are crazyyyy, especially when you compare it with a 3090Ti🙃
I appreciate you covering so many games. But why not also include ray tracing performance as well. Im curious if this makes an even bigger lead for the 4090. I dont know anyone who would by this card and not use ray tracing especially with the amount of fps you get without it.
There’s no point of even testing 1080p results. If you buy any of these GPUs and still wanna use a crappy 1080p display, something is wrong with your mind
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Intel 13th gen vs Ryzen 7000 using the RTX 4090 coming soon 👀
Can you add Minecraft ultra shaders combined with with high res texture packs and with chunk render at 64 chunks render distance (even 3090 only gets just 100fps without shaders and default textures at max render distance 😬) Minecraft java is a great benchmark tool be sure to use optifine for shaders btwy
@@midnight-breaker can't say just yet sorry!
@@midnight-breaker Ryzen 7000, we may know more around november about that one. We lack information right now. 6950x Doing well also agaist the rtx 3000 so long the is no ray tracing.
Can you compare RTX 4090 using older CPUs as well. I'm interested to see how it performs in 1440p and 4K with the 10900K and Ryzen 5000. Do gamers even need to consider Ryzen 7000 or Intel 12/13 gen if they have an older CPU... or is it worth it to just get a 4090 and be done with it?
Please add a Ryzen 5000 too.
Jarrod out here trying to keep everyone happy by saying both "tie" and "tee-i"
lmao bro you nailed it
The lack of consistency is driving me nuts
@@joco8587 I blame it on the one guy at nVidia who keeps saying "tie"
And we all know its TI..... Ffs....
@@XVindicare well technically 'tie' is correct as that's how you'd pronounce the element 'Ti' that it's based on. not that I like it more than TI tho
Jarrod, I appreciated the highlighting of numbers/bar graph while you explain the differences. It was a solid way for viewers such as myself to follow along. Thank you and hopefully it was not too much extra work! Have a great day!
Glad it was helpful!
@@JarrodsTech you're the best bro.
I was about to say the same! The amount of effort he puts into these videos must be more appreciated! Imo Jarrod is the best tech reviewer💯,love his videos❤️
Damn, 4k 120hz is actually legit. Wow😳
it always was, just not at max settings
@@GewelRealno there's a difference between optimized games and raw power, 3090 couldn't afford to do ray tracing without dlss.
@@mza2001 ray tracing is dumb
I play 4k 120 hz on half high half low settings on my Alienware x17. 11800h and 3080. It’s not as high fps of course but I certain lock in 120 in some games
my 3080 and 12700k can hit 4k 120 on most games, high settings , PUBG being my favorite game hits 4k 120 easily , the more recent demanding games like battlefield 2042, etc I need dlss for those for sure
Thank you for benchmarking in 1080p as well, every other tech youtuber I watched only did 4K and 1440p at maximum settings.
If you buy this card for 1080p I hope they throw it at your head. It's so ridiculously overpowered for 1080p performance, even if you have a 240Hz display if you're really interested in something like Cyberpunk having incredible visuals then get a 1440p or 4K display first and pair it with a 3090ti, it'll be much more rewarding than this GPU and cost about the same.
@@zakabog I’m playing on a 1440p 240Hz display right now, which I agree it would be way overkill for. But, I’m going to be switching to the Zowie 360Hz that just came out and would like to be close to stable around 360. I also don’t play singleplayer games.
@@strahfe If you're playing 1080p at even 360Hz the card is way overpowered. If you're playing 1440p at 144Hz then it's a reasonable purchase, but there aren't any multiplayer games that need a 4090 for 1080p at 360Hz...
warzone? lol
1080p data it's just nice to have, realistically you didn't pay this much to play @1080p.
*The way it's meant to be played* @1440p to 4K with very playable FPS.
This card is definitely geared towards content creators, Vr players and 4k gamers. I have a 1440p240hz monitor and sticking to my 3080ti
yeah 4k monitors are still too expensive at the moment for anything decent. best to wait another gen or 2
Yea man if I wasn't balls deep into VR I would've gotten a 3090 ti for a thousand last week but I swear VR games are so badly optimized you basically need something like a 4090 just to play Microsoft flight simulator in VR at anything more than 35fps
@@zachhouston514 What? Genuinely great 4K 144hz IPS monitors are around $400 last time I checked and it's not long ago people were paying +$1000 for a 27" 1440p 144hz monitor (five years ago maybe).
@@NegerKim I'm seeing $600 for 4k 144hz and to me that's a lot to spend on a monitor
@@zachhouston514 They are just over $400 on Newegg and Amazon...
Thank you for all your hard work. That “Cost per frame” really put things into perspective. makes me feel better about pulling the trigger on a 3090ti on sale.
Cheers!
I got a 3090 for $940 usd. I upgraded from a 1070 so I'm blown away
@@AC-hj9tv i got 3090ti coming tomorrow the upgrade from my 1080 should be massive
@@AC-hj9tvI saw a 3090 ti founders edition at microcenter for 750 . It's tempting to get it even tho I have a 3080. Got approved for 1k credit at microcenter so it makes it even more tempting. But I really wanna wait till the 5090 drops so sales can come even down even more
Let’s see how much of this translates over to laptops.
It looks like the new architecture is more power efficient, so we should see something, at least at the lower end.
But I think we've already pretty much reached the watt and heat limits of laptops. Can you imagine a laptop version of the 4080?
A 4090 laptop will probably be like at least 18 inches
@@voidified86 Or way too little power for nowhere near the performance.
A laptop 4060/70 might be pretty good.
AMD and Intel will have an opportunity to compete as well.
This could be the generation, where even the 4050 laptop cards can get huge performance, especially with dlss3 and frame generation and might beat the 3060 laptop
Wow, RIP those who spent >2K for the 3000 series
Yup those people got wrecked lmao
Lmao that’s why I bought a 3080 laptop for $3.2k. When gpu prices were that retarded, I was actually getting a deal on an Alienware. Nvidia loves the scalpers
They were very dumb, they deserve this L.
@@niebuhr6197 and this D.
@@technicalactivity Dang, I got owned by paying $2,000 for a 3090 in 2020. Oh, but wait, I mined Ethereum at around $12/day payout when not playing. So, I got a "free" card and then some. ;)
I bought a 3090ti for $850 last week from a guy who was going to buy a 4090. One of my best buys ever and the price to performance is huge for me. Gonna skip the 40 series
$850 for a 3090 TI is a steal. Congrats! You're set for quite some time, skip this gen.
4090 here at 2750mhz at 0.95V think you would have been better in the under 350W club ❤❤
Anyone getting the 5090?
It has been a while since the last time you review a desktop gpu. Really glad you got your hands on a 4090.
Did Nvidia lent you a 4090 for review or bought it yourself?
They sent him a review sample 👍
Glad I suscribed to your channel! Thanks for your tremendous efforts and patience. 25x3 tests and now 25x2 incoming I would become crazy!
almost 65% generation jump even with some CPU limitation? Looks gorgeous!
Given the power efficiencies that are seen with the 4090 architecture, I am looking forward to seeing how it works with laptop GPUs next year.
4000 laptop version wont be available until as early as november next year and as late as october. because its usually a year after desktop version release.
@@majinboo6377 Yeah, I am new at this, but you are right. I just got a super budget gaming laptop, and I plan on waiting until 2025 to replace it.
@@majinboo6377You mean next year(2023) October or November ? What about CES in January?
@@AzusaSnowflake you mean CES 2023
@@alirezagomari4493 yes my bad
As much as I hated on the 40 series after the power draw rumors, I got an AiO model and it's absolutely insane. Actually it uses less power than 3090 Strix and 2080Ti Kingpin in games and being able to max out Forza Horizon 5 in 3840x1600 at Extreme preset @ 144Hz and the card not even hitting 100% utilization is nuts.
AMD fanboy are saying wait for rdna3 recent leak are showing it can,t match 4090 performance
@@djsahilking3807and will never catch up or be ahead of Nvidia. Even Microsoft is scared of Nvidia
Smaller nodes really do work wonders.
Now i can finally run a 120hz in minecraft vr with 69+mods and shaders
i'm still happy with my 3060ti.. i don't need 4k or 200fps to enjoy my games! 1440p 70+ fps is a bliss for me
I like to limit my games at 69 fps, the sweet spot
@Wahrheit tut Weh yall are crazy, playing games at 144hz with 144fps is way better than 60fps, no way i can go back to 60hz
@@thejosephariasDoesn't mean your a beast at the games lol seen dudes have a 4090 setup and are straight up ass at fps . Funny
@madboi1591 i did not claim being a beast, it is just better overall.
Thank you for showing all three resolutions 1080p, 1440p and 4k. Most are only showing 1080p or 4k. I have a 1440p 240hz monitor and wanted to see the uplift with the 4090.
Thanks Jarrod for the amazing analytics of these three powerful video cards.
Feels so bad for scalpers still holding 3k series. My local market sells 3090 for $700 used
I don't feel bad for them. They need to learn lol I'm glad the 3k series dropped. A lot of scalpers went broke . Hope they learned they lesson lol I saw a 3090 ti founders editions for 750 $ 😂
I know it would take alot of testing time, but would it be possible to show how 4000 series GPUs would behave in an eGPU enclosure? With modern CPUs like 6800h or 12700h...
@El Cactuar seriously?
@El Cactuar It is a small mistake caused by the fact I type on a phone. Is it really necessary to point out? Was the meaning of my comment not comprehendable?
You're gonna be bottlenecked pretty badly by the eGPU bus. Thunderbolt 3/4 is only A PCIe 3.0 x4 lane connection, which bottlenecks even something like an RX 6500 XT. If you need more GPU performance with a mobile part, it'd be better to just buy a gaming laptop with a 40 Series mobile GPU when they (hopefully) release next year
I'm planning on making it! Just waiting on the laptop I want to use for the testing.
This is actually good news because it means that next generation graphic cards like a 5060 and/or 5070 might run 4k 120hz at a much lower price.
by that time these games are already obsolete
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 games don't exactly become obsolete... Cyberbug will still be intensive
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 Depends on what games are you talking about, lot of people are still playing real old games like CS and "obsolete" ones like Fortnite.
Ehh, we love csgo, and its cpu intensive 😐, crysis remastered still runs like ppt slideshow on 4k, games never become obsolete, they are infact quite futuristic.
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 Cyberpunk is getting an expansion in 2023 and 5000 series cards are coming late 2024.
i just bought a used rtx 3090 for £600
upgrading from a gtx 1080, is that a real bargain or should i have saved?
I 've watched many comparisons to the 4090 vs. the 3090/3090Ti/.. and In my opinion nobody could beat these structure, informations and charts from Jarrod
Helpful video thanks. I wonder how the 4090 would perform with this year's and last year's motherboards (MSI Support tells me the new 4090s are compatible with my Ace Max AMD). I wonder how the 4090 would perform with the Ryzen 9 5950x.
I've been waiting for so long Jarrod! Now the circle is complete
Need to see Blender cycles and octane rendering performance difference between 3090ti and 4090.
Wonderful review! Next time a comparison for a decent pc build for Video editing, 3d rendering and Music Production in the 3090ti v 4090. Thanks for sharing
This is the best 4090 benchmark out there. And I've watched them all!
Wow and I sold my 2080 ti during the pandemic for 1200...
Guess I gonna go for the 4090 in form of a 6070 or RDNA x700 in 2026, using less than 250W for the same performance for around 600 bucks lol
2024..
me with a 40w OC laptop 3050:
"well it ain't much, but it's honest work"
me with a 75w OC to 90w gtx1050ti laptop "u guys are getting more than 60fps?"
@@oriolb3ch wait u got maxed up to 90w? Must be quite a beefy laptop
@@timo7641 I’ve the bios unlocked thats why I can modify max wattage of the gpu, problem is the power supply is rated for 150watts, so there’s no many room left for OC.
It’s an Hp Pavilion Gaming 15 cx-0
@@oriolb3ch no problem with temps?
@@timo7641 temps are fine while gaming as I’ve the fps capped around 10% less than max frames (so gpu core don’t exceed 95% usage), as if the gpu was always at 99% response time/input lag would be pretty bad...
Also important that I have the GPU undervolted (max 1.0v) and core overclocked and memory too.
For the processor I have the CPU core and cache undervolted (-110mv), underclocked to 3500mhz and tdp max to 35watts
I underestimated the 4090
and it's not even the last boss, Ti version 💀
I really appreciate your hard work in this video. It literally answered all of my questions. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great stuff, would be nice with ultrawide benchmark.
The true 4k GPU.
Given that we got 800-1000 Hz Screens coming up in the market, its still far from being a true 4k gpu😅😅
@@kafkaesqued resolution and frame rate are different 💀💀💀
@@mohammedattal8887 LMAO r/whoosh, you didn't even get the statement ,may be read properly before commenting man, the potential to be a true/ideal 4K GPU is proportional to the number of frames it can handle at native resolution at higher graphics settings, as since in the recent market 500 Hz refresh rate monitor is already out, just for the brevity leaving aside the latency, still many high end AAA titles will struggle to hit the 500 mark on 4K native resolution, I guess no one would like to game at 100 fps on a 4K screen whilst the monitor is capable of rendering 500 fps. More pixels, more graphics power is needed. 4090 will easily be able to handle the most rtx games on lower resolution with medium graphics and some other tunings and dlss, however as you can see there is not much gap when it comes to 1080p, frames are capped mostly around same figures across all the 3 monsters, Jarrod has already told since some games are more CPU bound, we will probably expect better results with the Upcoming Meteor Lake from Intel. That is to be seen.
@@kafkaesqued bruh why make a story make fun of the man and call it a day
@@IILastIV Enumeration of facts is not equivalent to telling fairy tales bro and please try being within the context. Explicitly, I think its your own perception and past experiences that makes you think like that. Some random stranger, and I didn't even stumble against him in the first place. Good day.
We officially entered the era of 4K 120Hz
Nah man, you want 0.1% lows at 120 hz on all games.
This is a proper 1440p card though.
@@TheCameltotem LMAO
@@TheCameltotem This is absolutely a 4k 120hz card if you turned down some unnecessary settings.
@@TheCameltotem This is an overkill 1440p that most processors can't feed properly.
@@TheCameltotem yeah kid, go and play on your gtx 1050, leave this for the big boys.
This is a great video, thank you for making it.
Those specs are so close to my new rig, I have the ROG Asus Crosshair Extreme x670e, G-Skill 6000MT at 30 CL, and iCue Elite H150i, however, so very close, I have the 3090ti Founders and MSI 4090 Gaming Treo and I game on a Samsung G9, so it really needs the extra power.
Did somebody asked your specs?
Bro you're very cool😎 You answered all the questions I wanted to know, we don't need DLSS, I'm waiting for you 4080 12gb vs 3090😍
4080 12gb don't exist
I am looking forward to watching your upcoming coverage between 7950X vs 13900K
Just ordered my i9 13
insane work, thank you :D
Will you review the HP Omen 16 this year?
No sorry, HP Australia do not want to work with me and HP US are not able to ship to me anymore.
When 4000 series laptop GPUs coming in 2023?
Someone else suggested about a year from now, so October 2023.
@@antondovydaitis2261 that is very long 🤣, is it worth to buy now legion 5 pro 3070 ti laptop?
Also what about CES 2023 i think they announce laptop on that time maybe.
Great test, thanks for sharing! As a MSFS2020 player, it looks like you were using "Ultra" settings for those results...
Tested on High-End as per the graph at 5:22.
Damnn best review out yet!
Thanks for this benchmarking vdo. I normally play at 1080p and I have a 240hz monitor, so I'd still want the 4090 in order to reach that 240fps cap for the games that allow it.
The other thing I'm looking for is VR performance. Since it has to render 2 screens on my HP VR set, I'm looking for a minimum of 90 fps on 4k, since the VR headset has 90z max, but to future proof it, I'd want 144 fps on 4k
After not being able to get a ps5 locally and not being entirely happy with my series s, I decided to meet in the middle and build a PC around a 3060ti gpu. Haven’t built a PC since the 20 series rtx cards pre super. Super excited to get back into it. The 4090 is the 4k 120 fps next Gen marketed. That’s amazing
Very nice. Happy gaming
i love PC towers but im excited for the laptop variants to come out. now that im not a college student i can finally upgrade from my 960m laptop.
Thank you very much. This was very informative and helpful towards my decision.
Hopefully getting a 4090 today (provided bots dont buy all of them) upgrading from a 970, building the rest of the system at Halloween! Cant wait and I'm praying I actually get one!
They just released here and copped a Zotac 4090. Cant wait!
there was a ton on Newegg this morning but slowly started selling out as the hour went by ha
If I were u I would get a 3090ti way worth unless ur planning to play on 4k 144hz the time and even then u would still be taking a dip in fps if u were just to play in 1080 144hz
@@cuddlybearcx yeah cuz if you think about it, their are using max setting. ifwe lower it to normal is still good fps. my monitor is only capable of 164hz and is a 1440p so is not worth getting it tbh.
I just got a Microcenter ad in my email for various AIB 4090s and I'm all "I just bought a 3090 5 months ago... but that Cyberpunk RTX performance..."
...I also haven't played more than 2 hours of Cyberpunk. 🙃
Hi! I want to buy a 4K gaming laptop (I have never owned one). Do you have any idea about when the 4000 series laptops are going to be launch? Do you think there is going to be a significant difference between the performance of a 4080 laptop compared with a 3080? Or is it something which probably is mostly going to be noticed for the desktops? Would you recommend me to wait for the 4000 series laptops or should I get a 3080 laptop? Thanks in advance!
Probably next year
Next year, earliest probably around March/April, up to you if you want to wait for another 6-7 more months
Considering the 40 series is 30-35 percent more efficient I'd say it's definitely worth waiting for next year's laptops.
And 4070 or 4070Ti laptop? Price will be very high like desktop?
15:40 are those power draws from the GPU alone? Or is it from the whole PC including CPU, Ram, SSD etc?
Everything. The total power draw of the system coming out of the socket at the walI.
Welp! Looks like i'll have to rig the GPU to my laptop's m.2 slots. Will be kinda awkward carrying it to Starbucks.
Not to mention the portable dialysis machine you'll be carrying after you sell your kidneys.
Kidding aside, it doesn't seem like eGPUs are a good idea generally.
Considering your Australian, it would be nice if you put current AUD equivalents for pricing.I meant apart from the direct conversion, the story here in AUS is completely different. the 4090 is available here from between 3000-3500 AUD ($1900USD- 2200USD). It is significantly more expensive here.
Thanks a million, Jarrod!
Honestly, do you really need a 4090 to play some games at a playable framerate or is food, fuel and mortgage more important?
4:00 The most important piece of information on the internet.
Best benchmarks on the entire web... thank you so much!
Love your videos!! Could you please do the Alienware AMD advantage 17" laptop?
Nice to see the card tested on a Ryzen 7000
These were basic Nvidia models of all cards..? You showed MSI cards at the beginning, but provided links to Nvidia models..? Where is the transparency here?
Just ordered an asus rog strix Rtx 3090. But in all honestly would you recommend a 1000w psu??? I have an 850w 80 plus gold, I don’t plan on overclocking than what the gpu comes with but… what’s recommended for a 3090 Ti or 4090?
just a suggestion but after showing the bar chart maybe add some gameplay
put cyberpunk at the beginning thats a chad move
My heart says YES
My Kidney says NO
I have a 3090 playing 1440p. Is it worth going to a 4k LG C2 with such a drop in fps?
Will laptop price goes down now because the 4000 series is here??
Honestly, if the most powerful GPU on the market can't even run CP 2077 with 4k, full RT and no DLSS required @60fps... then what is the point in paying for it. May aswell just wait out for next generation and keep 30 series RTX card or upgrade to second hand 30 series if you don't have it.
If you're not subscribed to Jarrod yet just do it for the hundreds of times he said the word "ninety" in this vid
Excellent job!
Thank you very much!
4k ultra setting average 140fps almost every game that's something console players only dream about. However they still enjoy 30fps on 4k upscale that's kinda cute.
Where did you get those warzone benchmarks from? I just played it at 1080p ultra and only got between 180-200 fps lol
I have been waiting for this. Very good video.
The 4090RTX is far more than just a gaming card!
RENDERING, what about it? Pathtracing in Unreal Engine5, Vray, etc. 👽
Now let's wait for the prices to drop...probably by year 2099 it'll be affordable.
THIS is why 1440p IS the sweetspot.
Yeah this card really only shines completely in the 4k range from what I've watched and 4k monitors are still way expensive compared to 1440p monitors. on top of that you can still stick with a 30 series and be happy to skip this gen
@@zachhouston514 even 30 series is overkill for 1080p a 3050 can pull 1440p at high settings any game(not ultra)
Agree i would avoid 4k display untill i can afford gpu that have atleast similar fps as this maybe rtx 6060 or 7050 in future
You have a 4090 now in your personal rig?
For VR users the 4090 solves everything. I'm able to run my G2 (2160 x 2160 per eye) at 120% resolution, max settings in AMS 2 at rock solid 90fps with no frame time drops in races with full grids of cars. I'm using the 5800x3d. What's more, the 4090 is incredibly efficient and cool. During Firestrike Ultra it scored 25,002 and didn't go above 52 Deg C at 70% fan speed. It is a stellar GPU that lives up to the price paid. I paid £1899 for mine on launch day.
Its a 3090 tie because its a tie between 3090 and 3090 ti
As an owner of an RTX3090TI who primarily plays at 1080p, I won't be shelling out $1,700 on a 4090.
However, with 8k starting to pick up steam, I'd really like to see 8k comparisons as well, since 4k is why you'd buy a 4090. Can games hit 60fps at 8k or was that not possible yet?
Why do you ha e a 3090ti and play at 1080p? Complete overkill
@@joshuaminke6629 escape from tarkov warzone or pub g
people who bought 3090TI for 2k... you deserve it
For creatives, using Blender, etc, the time savings on rendering are worth every penny. It would be nice if you did a couple of bench marks for those instead of comparing every computer game.
NVIDIA presenting us with a strong case why we should sell our kidneys!! LOL!😂 Though on a serious note... These performances are crazyyyy, especially when you compare it with a 3090Ti🙃
Thank you very much for testing on a couple racing games.
Looking forward to the laptop version of these !!!
Are you using geomean for average FPS? 14:40
The 3090 I bought last month feels old gen now. like comparing an Rtx 3070 to a Gtx 1060
So, it is about 39% better on 1440p and I play only on 1440p. So I want to ask, is it wort upgrade? Thank you
It isn't
If you don't plan to game 4K and choose to stay 1080p, I guess a 3090 Ti is more than enough to max games out. Right?
100% tbh a 3080 is enough for 1k
I switched from a 1080ti to a 3090 and I sm quite content.
The 3090ti is almost at para with the 3090 but the 4090 is way too much for me.
Awesome work, thank you !
Nice job, but no control among benchmarked game? But why? It’s one of the better games with ray-tracing. I was here for that game
This with my FV43U is going to a delightful combo. Hopefully I can actually pick one up today!
I appreciate you covering so many games. But why not also include ray tracing performance as well. Im curious if this makes an even bigger lead for the 4090. I dont know anyone who would by this card and not use ray tracing especially with the amount of fps you get without it.
Nobody on youtube is reviewing the cards on VR games :(
There’s no point of even testing 1080p results.
If you buy any of these GPUs and still wanna use a crappy 1080p display, something is wrong with your mind
Even if this 4090 price is hell, I bet many ppl out there gonna buy it. The performance improvement is real, no one can debate it.
its not ! you don't see with the naked eye difference between the 3090 and the 4090
@@s3kt0r10 yep well said 👏 4090 is only worth it for 4k
waaaaaaiiiitt up, how did you manage to pull over 240fps from WarZone that game is CPU intensive and CPU Bottlenecked... something is fishy hereeeee