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Their version of "gambeson" was probably just the thick clothes they would need for the weather anyway, & eventually someone probably just put 2 & 2 together & we got the medieval gambeson.
Thanks for actually mentioning that gambesons for vikings are disputed. Surely they must've had some kind of padding, but that could also have been thick tunics. Or multiple thick tunics worn together. Your gambeson actually looks pretty good I think. I don't know why, but it just doesn't have such a high medieval look like many others I've seen.
dang you know while it's not 100% historically accurate it still looks mega badass. You did a great job balancing the popular period 'look' of the viking age with extra protection and just a enough imaginitive license to make something truly memorable. Great work!
Thank you very much! I appreciate it. I've found that this is by far my most divisive kit. Either people think it's unique and looks awesome and they love it. Or they absolutely hate it haha. I really like it for a more fantasy dark age kit, I'm also partial because I constructed a large portion of the parts. But I can definitely understand the flaws lol hence I don't use this kit for reenactment per say.
ATTENTION!! I will be working on an updated Viking kit video soon. I've tweaked some components and set aside the lamellar for a Scandinavian kit that I will cover it detail. This kit is certainly not up to snuff for historical accuracy.. But I still like it regardless and love using it in eastern fighting. Stay tuned!
A very good presentation sir. I commend you on your kit. To hell with the minor inaccuracies ! It's better to afford protection than having a broken bone ! Pax.🇬🇧
Given they surely had the means to make gambesons, they'd be made of something that isn't prone to surviving, and you really need something under mail for it to really be effective, I'd be in favor of the idea that they most likely did have them. Interesting kit in any case!
yeah i am almost 100% sure they had somethign simillar to a gambeson, like a thick, multilayered woolen tunic or such, cus as you say, a maille kinda needs it for full effectiveness. :)
Agreed, it would have made sense for at least a few of them to have worn a gambson or something similar. I'm about as sure as you can be without a surviving example that it was a thing.
There's no surviving example of gambesons, everyone's tired of hearing and reading that, but they did had the concept of padded armor, some reenactors even say that it is possible the vikings wore thick woolen tunics one over another, and some reenactors even speculate that they could have sewn tunics together to make one sturdy piece of padding, so i think that if there was any kind of gambeson, it would have a simple tunic pattern, like the Penguin's gambeson, so i guess it's somehow safe to say that his gambeson (despite the fact that it is black) is one of the most accurate things we can get to what they had at the viking age
+Viktor Silva The fact, that the gambeson is black, doesn't make it inaccurate at all. Yes, black wasn't as common, as we see in the movies, but it still was an existing and used color.
Dude, i've always heard throught reenactors with more experience that there was no black in viking cuture, i tried to read about it but even if i google "black color in viking reenactment/age" i only find texts talking about black people in viking cuture, but never about the color, i spoke to some reenactors and they said "well, if you really want, try black wool, because of course existed black sheep in the Vik. Age", do you have any source that talks about black color in the viking era ?
While that armor may not be accurate enough to represent the Vikings, It makes for a solid Mongol worrier kit (Minus the helmet and shield) But looks pretty cool regardless.
I actually have gone in that direction with this kit. Kind of a Rus eastern kit. I bought a pointed helm with a horsetail on it visible in my last viking video at the swedish festival. Still not the most period with the D plate lamellar. I built the lamellar and helmet though. So while it's not period it still has a permanent place in my collection.
This is really cool, thanks for not taking it down due to it not being completely historically accurate. I still think it's just cool to get to see, and I love the artistic value it holds. Also, the fact that you personally made a lot of the gear is impressive, it looks great.
Ive been watching this vid since highschool, even today it never dissapoints. Coolest take on fantasy inspired viking era loadout. I also remember what the video USED to be titled. I SAW WHAT YOU DELETED.
Haha, thanks man. You do excellent work. 😁 You should make a page for your projects so I can link the gambeson to it! Unless you aren't looking to make anymore gambis for order haha
From my studies I've learned that the most important part of the belt wasn't to hold up anything or to hold weapons an items. But to hold the weight of the hauberk off the shoulders and onto the hips. similar to hiking backpacks today
Like yourself I'm viking mad and I'm lucky enough to live a short drive from Lindisfarne in Northumbria where the first viking raid in Britain took place it's an amazing place where time has stood still you would love it.
@@paynesyler6428 Depends on your weapon, if you go with a single strong two handed weapon you can reasonably get away with 2/2/2 or possibly more, as weapons are expensive and only bringing one really helps reduce the cost.
Nice kit, but got me interested. Is anykind of lamellar actually accurate for a norse culture of the time? I myself assosiate it strongly with asian cultures, tho obviously other people also used it. I've never heard about norse culture using lamellar, atleast not heard about any evidence. Anyone can clear me on this? Your kit is awesome anycase, nice work. E: Oh sorry, I didn't read the description. I'll still leave this here since I'd like to hear about it if someone can point me to a source on a chance.
Ya know I cant remember the name of the source off the top of my head but some time ago I did see a documentary on the trade routes the norse made. According to the historians that put it together the norsemen were exchaging goods with traders from as far away as the middle east, so they may have at least known of llamalar style armor at the very least. I'll poke around and see if I can find that video.
The kit is from the later years of the Viking Age. By then, the Norse (specially the Rus) would've known of lamellar through their interactions with eastern peoples, particularly the Eastern Romans (the kit actually looks more Varangian than Norse, which he mentioned near the end). Take in mind that other Germanic groups (such as the Longobards) made prevalent use of lamellar during the Migration Period, as it's easy to repair and maintain.
Every part of the armor kit has its use, and still with all that you were wearing, it didn't slow your movement. I didn't know that vikings had that kind of armor kit.
A bunch of these components aren't quite right and are more for sport armored combat rather than perfect historical accuracy. I will do an update of this video wearing an actually historical Viking setup eventually.
Great job man!! They only thing I can see that you missed was the raised crown on the top of the helmet to ward off sword blows. But that Viking knife was REALLY outstanding!!
I'm a little late, but damn that looks great. Awesome job. Especially on the helmet, it looks insanely frightening, in a “good“ way. Sure as hell would be scared to fight someone looking like that. Just imagine being a monk in a remote chapel or somewhere and you see guys dressed like this dismount from their longboats. Again, awesome job :D
According to my knowledge the vikings wore lamellar very rarely (but they still did so all good in my book :P), also, about the helmet, is the vision poor? On my helmet that have way larger eye holes but about as wide steel below the eye holes the vision is kinda poor when looking down, making me have to tilt my head to properly see when my oponent swings low. :)
The vision is better than a great helm which is what I'm used to lol, but I'm sure it's worse than yours if your eyeslots are larger, but I don'y mind, as long as I'm protected.
There were finds in Birka and Visby. The Varangian Guard would have had different types but maybe even this style. The helm is more Vendel, pre-viking (sorry, as he said. Was writing this as it played). But I respect anyone who makes their own stuff. I'm biased because I make my own stuff. Made leather lamellar, but we concluded there is not enough evidence to support it. I ague that unless we find some in a bog, it would have rotted away, but surely those with less money would have had it. I just gave in, so I'm in the process of making metal lamellar not unlike this. Everything I make I can show a source to the design. i.e. from digs, finds or burials.
+Morning Petrichor The thing about leather armor (no matter if lamellar or "plate") is, that it offers little to no protection. You'd have to really harden the leather and use several layers to make it even cut resistent and I don't even want to think about thrusts. Overall, if you really want to make leather armor that actually protects you, it'll end up almost as heavy as a sturdy steel cuirass. I know, people back in the day may have worn leather armor, but I just can't think of a reson why they would have done so. Leather wasn't exactly cheap, or easy to get in those times...
I'll work backwards to your reply. Too true about the cost of leather, it's a long process. But these were still the days where metallurgy was looked at as a type of alchemy. They say a sword was like buying an expensive sports car. They were given names, thought to be magical, and often handed down in the inheritance. Plus, mining for the ore was not a large scale task as it is today so even the wrought iron, let alone high tensile steel, was expensive. But animals always run above ground so easier to obtain. To make leather hard, One dips it into molten bees wax. It is speculated that the Vikings who did their sight seeing tour at Lindisfarne had leather caps (helms) that were treated this way. That was the only armour they had. It can make it brittle though, and in the case of thin lames, it can make them shrivel like leaves. Being a Dane axe swinger in re-enactment, I've made some articulated 5 mm leather armoured mits and treated them with wax. They have prevented my fingers even getting hurt with misplaced blocks. But, granted, this isn't against edged weapons being struck full force. But I think it would still displace the energy of a strike and prevent cuts. Even steel can't stop everything. And I agree that the leather suit was heavier than my current metal lame suit which incidentally covers more area. I justify the amount of armour due to the Varangian Guard being mounted infantry, shock troops, guarding the emperor, and getting well paid. Oh, and I like your icon. I wear that symbol on my cap. "Long live the Emperor!" ....oh, wait...
He made a real effort bless his cotton socks. In all the viking novels i read the guys went into battle with just spear and shield with a berni and helm if they were professional.
They must have had some kind of sheath for axes as it would be pretty dumb to run around with a razor sharp edge in line with your wrist. Did you see the Alone episode where the survival "expert" fell on his axe while trotting through the forest?
Have to ask your helmet didn't they get rib of the glasses look before the late Viking age. Am only asking because am thinking of buying one of the bar on the nose helmets.with a rounded top. But am trying to figure if it's fine for mid to late Dublin
I have a nice, fairly long maille hauberk, flat, riveted rings, goes to my elbows and almost all the way down to my knees. Rings are fairly small -> more rings/weight. + im a big guy at 1,94cm and 105kg. The maille alone weighs 11kg, its heavy but when on it doesnt restrict movement at all, im just a bit slower in running speed and get tired faster.
Excellent work on the armor, if i may suggest, you may want to try one of the cold steel roman gladius swords. They are well made I own one of them and it is great. Also a Cold Steel gladius was used on the Forged in Fire show for target practice against other hand made swords and it stood up after a beating by their swords and was not harmed.
Great project, you remind me of myself at your age. I look forward to the new kit. One question though, if you are wearing a vendel helmet (which looks great), why do you call it a late viking kit?
The only viable evidence is a couple lamellar plates found in Birka Sweden. Also the Romans had made Lamellar before. There's no solid proof other than that unfortunately, just speculation. I Mainly wear the lamellar because it's more protective than maille for sport combat and there's a small possibility vikings may have worn something similar.
your kit looks very varangian guard inspired. so i dont think lamellar or something similar would be any problem if a varangian guard impression is what you go for the Vrangians would probably get acsess to a lot of kit and gear as they were kind of "elite troops" . though i think plain maille would be more common even in byzantine. correct me if im wrong!
U guys r forgetting that the vikings traveled all the way to central asia, and traded in the silky way. And there is a high possibility that they used other armor than just a chainmail and a helmet. They may have adopted the lamellar, and made it a part of theyre culture as well. Even without historical evidence except the Birka Lamellar. The vikings was fighting alot of rus, and the rus did use lamellar cuz they too were both fighting and trading with the mongols. Who DID wear lamellar at the time. Because that was theyre armor culture. And lamellar armor offers better protection against projectile weapons, and blunt weapons. However chainmail offers a bigger area of protection. And the vikings did use bow and arrows, and they knew the weakness of the chainmail Weakness nr.1: Blunt impact, and yes they used theyre winter coat to reduce the impact Weakness nr.2: Piercing, which is probably the biggest weakness, considering that chainmail is not a standalone armor, so a armor piercing arrow would pierce right through the mail AND winter coat alike. The vikings wasnt stupid, if they were fighting enemies with better gear, which they did, they would have adopted it. Only idiots would reject the option. And this is just my opinion tho. Cuz if i were living 1000 years ago. I would have adopted other types of armor as well. And i am not even the sharpest tool in the shed. I am just realistic
Did Vikings really use qaif’s under their helmets? (Don’t know how it’s spelled). And it’s really interesting to see the similarities between this armor and Turkish armor from the same timeperiod!
The coif would not come in use until late viking age. Wich this set is inspierd from. On some of the armor parts i think he went for a varangian guard look. They were nore mercaneries in todays greece.
It is because this style was imported from persia. These are not really "viking" helmets, these are imported persian and to some degree roman style helmets.
Lord Hermis Those helmets were most likely imported from Persia back then. It is actually the same time period when the trade would most likely happen. What makes it persian, well the fact that persians used those helmets in their military among others and norsemen commonly used the Volga trade route to travel there and trade for better steel and armaments (vikings were seafaring tradesmen) so it was not an uncommon site to see norsemen trading in bazaars and shops back then. You see the Persian empire was a huge market and sort of like the U.S.A today many people would either try to live there or trade there. Have you not heard of the Silk Road for instance? I can give you a link of a Swedish professor talking about it if you want. let me see if I can find anything, it was so long ago I saw video.
Lord Hermis I could not find the original video but there are clips here on this site, it also explains some of it. kavehfarrokh.com/arthurian-legends-and-iran-europe-links/the-viking-ulfberht-sword-and-persian-steel/ As explained by professor Ljungqvist.
If you made the helmet, did you document the process? Links anything? It would be much appreciated! I checked the description and i din't see it there. Or maybe someone could direct me to a video of a forge that made one such as this? Thanks alot!
The lamellar is really cool and all but isn’t it pretty rare for the Vikings? I know they wore it a little but.... not that much. Still a pretty damn cool set though! Good job!
Yes its rare. If you had armor like this during that time. You most likely had status and wealth. The average viking was a normal farmer or tradesman . Most vikings dident even have swords. They used Axes. Spears and Bows. The more wealthy ones with status hand more fancy Equipment like Swords, and better protection.
Did you cut out all the platelets for the lamellar or did you buy them (and if so, were they specifically for armor or where they mending braces or the such)?
I memorised only elder futharc, specifically the danish/Anglo-Saxon version. So if it is actually something legible in one of the later systems forgive me.
i would like to know more about the original viking helmet's you have a replica version of the original type of viking helmet could you make a video of how strong the helmet is and how many blow it can stop to protect the person who has the helmet on
@@thewisp7447 I tryed that's as excuse during a reenactment of the great army attacks and the authenticy officer wasn't having any of it he said the spectical helm we were out by that time they were already late by the 7th century when the helmet was found
@@WarDogMadnessThe only (mostly) complete viking age helmet from Scandinavia that has survived is the gjermundbu helmet which is a spectacle helmet and it dates to around 970. There are a few from the vendel period aswell but they to are mostly spectacle helms, given the time gap of around 200 years it is safe to assume that the spectacle design remained in use even if only by the few norsemen that had helmets.
@@Konradpagano Or late tenth century,illustrated first in the late 900`s in the gospels of Otto III and then later in the famous bayeux tapestry,usually on horseback,by Norman cavalry. No surviving example exists of the late viking era or has been discovered...yet….
My main weapon of choice is a rapier, so it has been hard to find fitting armour for my main armament that also follows historical accuracy well enough. Does anyone have any suggestions.
You were talking about sport combat however Im concerned about the seeming lack of leg protection. Do you have some metal armour/padding underneath your pants?
Very beautiful kit. What organization or group are you in. I am in the Society For Creative Anachronism. We don't use live steal that's what made me curious. I hope no one gets hurt.
Thank you! I run a small group called Knights of the North and we have been doing rebated steel combat for a few years now. We have had very minor injuries in our group, steel is only marginally more dangerous than rattan if you play it safe.
Did Vikings/Varangians actually use lamellar? And is a Vendel period helm really the same as a 10th century helm? This kit looks awesome, I'm just iffy on the history.
Thirdtrys Acharm I have heard of one find of lamellar, in Birka Sweden. I'm not sure when it dated back to but I think it may have been the late viking age. Though they would have been very uncommon. I have heard of a few finds from the Rus' in modern day Russia and Ukraine. So it would have been more common with Rus' "Vikings", though they're not really Vikings. So it was uncommon to see lamellar with the Vikings but it wouldn't have been impossible for one to have used it.
Brad is correct, the lamellar is iffy for accuracy but not impossible. and the helm I do intend to switch out for a rus style, but the vendel/Viking ocular style was easiest to adapt for heavy combat and the spangen style was easier for my first attempt at building a helmet.
Hello! Wonderfull kitt! How many lamellar pieces did it take to make the harnes? Im trying to build my self a viking kitt and strugling to try to figgure out how many i need to make/by :)
About 600 though I will say lamellar is not very accurate for vikingss. If you wanna go viking maille and a gambeson are good body armor. Lamellar is good for Rus tho!
ruclips.net/video/2aysSCAcUiI/видео.html Finally! Here's the new viking armor video now with better representation of historical accuracy! Check it out.
I give you what the Vikings *should* be wearing in For Honor.
Yes. I hate for honor because of this reason
For honor, is a wrong... or Hollywood(ish) depiction of the Vikings.
@@PpAirO5 yes,but at least they look badass.
@@user-nx1rn3wm9z.. I don't think so.. I would prefer a more historical depiction.
@@PpAirO5 yep
Their version of "gambeson" was probably just the thick clothes they would need for the weather anyway, & eventually someone probably just put 2 & 2 together & we got the medieval gambeson.
Vikings also wore gambesons
There's a quite a lot of difference between gambesons and warm clothing.
Weren't gambesons first used by the eastern romans before they spread to the west?
You could probably make one out of a cheap $10.00 packing blanket from Harbor Freight.
vikings didnt use gambesons a lot, they would wear several layers of clothing under the maille, or just wear normal clothes
Now you are well equipped for when the saxons attack you in the streets.
You mean the other way around
I hate when that happens. Just the other day I was on my way to 7/11 when I was set upon by 5 saxon knights. Such a pain in the ass
@@Nantosuelta Thegns or Heathgaurd Knights are norman
Better not let them join the Angles and Jutes or else you're really in trouble.
I jumped two Vikings before breakfast
I’m super impressed with the level of determination you had to make this kit. It all looks like a professional. This is just great man
Thanks for actually mentioning that gambesons for vikings are disputed. Surely they must've had some kind of padding, but that could also have been thick tunics. Or multiple thick tunics worn together. Your gambeson actually looks pretty good I think. I don't know why, but it just doesn't have such a high medieval look like many others I've seen.
Looks like Byzanto-Persian armoury
Might have been going for the Varangian Guard look.
Wisp Man I agree!
Some of the Vendel-period helmets found in Sweden look a lot like the helmets used by the Sassanids. Some have sugested trading-links.
he did say late period but it's defo varangian which is what most Viking pics are dressed as
dang you know while it's not 100% historically accurate it still looks mega badass. You did a great job balancing the popular period 'look' of the viking age with extra protection and just a enough imaginitive license to make something truly memorable. Great work!
Thank you very much! I appreciate it. I've found that this is by far my most divisive kit. Either people think it's unique and looks awesome and they love it. Or they absolutely hate it haha. I really like it for a more fantasy dark age kit, I'm also partial because I constructed a large portion of the parts. But I can definitely understand the flaws lol hence I don't use this kit for reenactment per say.
ATTENTION!! I will be working on an updated Viking kit video soon. I've tweaked some components and set aside the lamellar for a Scandinavian kit that I will cover it detail. This kit is certainly not up to snuff for historical accuracy.. But I still like it regardless and love using it in eastern fighting. Stay tuned!
A very good presentation sir. I commend you on your kit. To hell with the minor inaccuracies ! It's better to afford protection than having a broken bone !
Pax.🇬🇧
Can't wait for the update this kit is so cool
Given they surely had the means to make gambesons, they'd be made of something that isn't prone to surviving, and you really need something under mail for it to really be effective, I'd be in favor of the idea that they most likely did have them. Interesting kit in any case!
yeah i am almost 100% sure they had somethign simillar to a gambeson, like a thick, multilayered woolen tunic or such, cus as you say, a maille kinda needs it for full effectiveness. :)
Agreed, it would have made sense for at least a few of them to have worn a gambson or something similar. I'm about as sure as you can be without a surviving example that it was a thing.
There's no surviving example of gambesons, everyone's tired of hearing and reading that, but they did had the concept of padded armor, some reenactors even say that it is possible the vikings wore thick woolen tunics one over another, and some reenactors even speculate that they could have sewn tunics together to make one sturdy piece of padding, so i think that if there was any kind of gambeson, it would have a simple tunic pattern, like the Penguin's gambeson, so i guess it's somehow safe to say that his gambeson (despite the fact that it is black) is one of the most accurate things we can get to what they had at the viking age
+Viktor Silva The fact, that the gambeson is black, doesn't make it inaccurate at all. Yes, black wasn't as common, as we see in the movies, but it still was an existing and used color.
Dude, i've always heard throught reenactors with more experience that there was no black in viking cuture, i tried to read about it but even if i google "black color in viking reenactment/age" i only find texts talking about black people in viking cuture, but never about the color, i spoke to some reenactors and they said "well, if you really want, try black wool, because of course existed black sheep in the Vik. Age", do you have any source that talks about black color in the viking era ?
Green with envy, great work mate!!
Hey thank you! :D
That is such a great kit. I would love to see a video on how you modified that Lang seax from a machete.
While that armor may not be accurate enough to represent the Vikings, It makes for a solid Mongol worrier kit (Minus the helmet and shield) But looks pretty cool regardless.
I actually have gone in that direction with this kit. Kind of a Rus eastern kit. I bought a pointed helm with a horsetail on it visible in my last viking video at the swedish festival. Still not the most period with the D plate lamellar. I built the lamellar and helmet though. So while it's not period it still has a permanent place in my collection.
Links for some of the main components are in the description. So I don't wanna see a bunch of comments asking where I got this armor lol
Where did you get this armor
Hilarious 😜
DUDE! YOU LOOK SCARY IN THIS VIDEO xD nice armor
Lol thanks XD
looks sick cant believe you made that helmet your self love the veiled styled helmets
This is really cool, thanks for not taking it down due to it not being completely historically accurate. I still think it's just cool to get to see, and I love the artistic value it holds. Also, the fact that you personally made a lot of the gear is impressive, it looks great.
Actually looks really protective. I couldn’t image an arrow piercing through all those layers of armour.
That kit is awesome. You clearly have a real sence of what looks good together... good job man!
Ive been watching this vid since highschool, even today it never dissapoints. Coolest take on fantasy inspired viking era loadout. I also remember what the video USED to be titled.
I SAW WHAT YOU DELETED.
This looks pretty epic man! I've only got a soft kit for viking age at the moment, but you certainly put together a solid look. Badass
Your self made helmet and armor are fantastic I love how they look
That gambeson looks good Sam. It was cool to see the whole kit together.
Haha, thanks man. You do excellent work. 😁 You should make a page for your projects so I can link the gambeson to it! Unless you aren't looking to make anymore gambis for order haha
I've actually been pretty busy with my Senior Project. I've been building a BB-8 droid from Star Wars.
From my studies I've learned that the most important part of the belt wasn't to hold up anything or to hold weapons an items. But to hold the weight of the hauberk off the shoulders and onto the hips. similar to hiking backpacks today
Like yourself I'm viking mad and I'm lucky enough to live a short drive from Lindisfarne in Northumbria where the first viking raid in Britain took place it's an amazing place where time has stood still you would love it.
When you make your armor 2/2/0 so you can take a Bloodlust.
Spot on lol
@@paynesyler6428 Depends on your weapon, if you go with a single strong two handed weapon you can reasonably get away with 2/2/2 or possibly more, as weapons are expensive and only bringing one really helps reduce the cost.
This kit is soooo cool 😍
I want too buy my own Viking outfit 💙
Nice kit, but got me interested. Is anykind of lamellar actually accurate for a norse culture of the time? I myself assosiate it strongly with asian cultures, tho obviously other people also used it. I've never heard about norse culture using lamellar, atleast not heard about any evidence. Anyone can clear me on this? Your kit is awesome anycase, nice work.
E: Oh sorry, I didn't read the description. I'll still leave this here since I'd like to hear about it if someone can point me to a source on a chance.
Ya know I cant remember the name of the source off the top of my head but some time ago I did see a documentary on the trade routes the norse made. According to the historians that put it together the norsemen were exchaging goods with traders from as far away as the middle east, so they may have at least known of llamalar style armor at the very least. I'll poke around and see if I can find that video.
The kit is from the later years of the Viking Age. By then, the Norse (specially the Rus) would've known of lamellar through their interactions with eastern peoples, particularly the Eastern Romans (the kit actually looks more Varangian than Norse, which he mentioned near the end). Take in mind that other Germanic groups (such as the Longobards) made prevalent use of lamellar during the Migration Period, as it's easy to repair and maintain.
There was a finding in Sweden if i recall correctly
I love the commitment to the colour scheme.
All kitted out for another day of riding the R train around Brooklyn…
Must be a hell of a ride
I like the name of the channel and that one of the reasons i subscribed .
Every part of the armor kit has its use, and still with all that you were wearing, it didn't slow your movement.
I didn't know that vikings had that kind of armor kit.
A bunch of these components aren't quite right and are more for sport armored combat rather than perfect historical accuracy. I will do an update of this video wearing an actually historical Viking setup eventually.
Great job man!! They only thing I can see that you missed was the raised crown on the top of the helmet to ward off sword blows. But that Viking knife was REALLY outstanding!!
Freaking awesome job :) I love the kamelot in the background haha.
The lamellar torso armour bears some visual similarities to samurai armour
Wish the Vikings in ForHonor was wearing something like this.
Ah Etsy, the tailor of choice for the vikings. Esteemed by odin
Vegan hipster Baldr approves...
Looking good my dude!
I'm a little late, but damn that looks great. Awesome job. Especially on the helmet, it looks insanely frightening, in a “good“ way. Sure as hell would be scared to fight someone looking like that. Just imagine being a monk in a remote chapel or somewhere and you see guys dressed like this dismount from their longboats. Again, awesome job :D
Awesome kit, great job, now some leg protection and a sword
Gorgeous gambeson, and great kit..! Now I'm jealous.
Thank you! :)
Historical reality: Only the Viking elite could afford armour like this
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Me: I used to be an adventurer like you, until i took an arrow to the knee.
More like him: I used to be an adventurer like you too until I took a viking.
I think I know what my summer project is now
Very good! You should be proud of your handiwork!
I really want a pair of those forearm and elbow guards, they look sick
I'll take the plate armor
Dedicated Spartan I’ll take the bishop mantle and helmet tbh
Awesome mate, tottaly respect a guy who makes as much as he can. Good for you👍
Nice armor! May I recommend a lapel mic my liege.
thank you so much, this helped me a TON with my kit
Apart from the absence of leg protection, I dig this armour.
According to my knowledge the vikings wore lamellar very rarely (but they still did so all good in my book :P),
also, about the helmet, is the vision poor? On my helmet that have way larger eye holes but about as wide steel below the eye holes the vision is kinda poor when looking down, making me have to tilt my head to properly see when my oponent swings low. :)
The vision is better than a great helm which is what I'm used to lol, but I'm sure it's worse than yours if your eyeslots are larger, but I don'y mind, as long as I'm protected.
Yeah its a trade-of, yours definetly give more protection while mine give better vision. :P
There were finds in Birka and Visby. The Varangian Guard would have had different types but maybe even this style. The helm is more Vendel, pre-viking (sorry, as he said. Was writing this as it played). But I respect anyone who makes their own stuff. I'm biased because I make my own stuff. Made leather lamellar, but we concluded there is not enough evidence to support it. I ague that unless we find some in a bog, it would have rotted away, but surely those with less money would have had it. I just gave in, so I'm in the process of making metal lamellar not unlike this. Everything I make I can show a source to the design. i.e. from digs, finds or burials.
+Morning Petrichor The thing about leather armor (no matter if lamellar or "plate") is, that it offers little to no protection. You'd have to really harden the leather and use several layers to make it even cut resistent and I don't even want to think about thrusts. Overall, if you really want to make leather armor that actually protects you, it'll end up almost as heavy as a sturdy steel cuirass. I know, people back in the day may have worn leather armor, but I just can't think of a reson why they would have done so. Leather wasn't exactly cheap, or easy to get in those times...
I'll work backwards to your reply. Too true about the cost of leather, it's a long process. But these were still the days where metallurgy was looked at as a type of alchemy. They say a sword was like buying an expensive sports car. They were given names, thought to be magical, and often handed down in the inheritance. Plus, mining for the ore was not a large scale task as it is today so even the wrought iron, let alone high tensile steel, was expensive. But animals always run above ground so easier to obtain. To make leather hard, One dips it into molten bees wax. It is speculated that the Vikings who did their sight seeing tour at Lindisfarne had leather caps (helms) that were treated this way. That was the only armour they had. It can make it brittle though, and in the case of thin lames, it can make them shrivel like leaves. Being a Dane axe swinger in re-enactment, I've made some articulated 5 mm leather armoured mits and treated them with wax. They have prevented my fingers even getting hurt with misplaced blocks. But, granted, this isn't against edged weapons being struck full force. But I think it would still displace the energy of a strike and prevent cuts. Even steel can't stop everything. And I agree that the leather suit was heavier than my current metal lame suit which incidentally covers more area. I justify the amount of armour due to the Varangian Guard being mounted infantry, shock troops, guarding the emperor, and getting well paid. Oh, and I like your icon. I wear that symbol on my cap. "Long live the Emperor!" ....oh, wait...
Would that helmet serve in a duel? Like holmganghamburg, I want to get into that
He made a real effort bless his cotton socks. In all the viking novels i read the guys went into battle with just spear and shield with a berni and helm if they were professional.
Great video. You did a great job with this kit.
They must have had some kind of sheath for axes as it would be pretty dumb to run around with a razor sharp edge in line with your wrist. Did you see the Alone episode where the survival "expert" fell on his axe while trotting through the forest?
if you have the skills to make that helmet i think you can probably put together a much better sword than the current one. cool kit, looks badass
The helmet reminds me of the Whiterun guards in Skyrim.
Have to ask your helmet didn't they get rib of the glasses look before the late Viking age. Am only asking because am thinking of buying one of the bar on the nose helmets.with a rounded top. But am trying to figure if it's fine for mid to late Dublin
I have a nice, fairly long maille hauberk, flat, riveted rings, goes to my elbows and almost all the way down to my knees.
Rings are fairly small -> more rings/weight.
+ im a big guy at 1,94cm and 105kg.
The maille alone weighs 11kg, its heavy but when on it doesnt restrict movement at all, im just a bit slower in running speed and get tired faster.
Great job man. I just started building my own kit =)
Excellent work on the armor, if i may suggest, you may want to try one of the cold steel roman gladius swords. They are well made I own one of them and it is great. Also a Cold Steel gladius was used on the Forged in Fire show for target practice against other hand made swords and it stood up after a beating by their swords and was not harmed.
Great project, you remind me of myself at your age. I look forward to the new kit. One question though, if you are wearing a vendel helmet (which looks great), why do you call it a late viking kit?
What about protection for legs ?
can you recommend a historical accurate round shield from the viking age? I want to buy one
Hey, I have a question: I searched the whole web and I couldn't find anything. Where is the evidence Norsemen used Lamellar?
Great kit btw!
The only viable evidence is a couple lamellar plates found in Birka Sweden. Also the Romans had made Lamellar before. There's no solid proof other than that unfortunately, just speculation. I Mainly wear the lamellar because it's more protective than maille for sport combat and there's a small possibility vikings may have worn something similar.
your kit looks very varangian guard inspired. so i dont think lamellar or something similar would be any problem if a varangian guard impression is what you go for the Vrangians would probably get acsess to a lot of kit and gear as they were kind of "elite troops" . though i think plain maille would be more common even in byzantine. correct me if im wrong!
There are occasionally references in the Norse sagas to spangabrynja, which may have been scale and/or lamellar armor, but this is pure speculation.
how is breathability with a helmet that has a closed aventail?
I like this setup a lot but the links are expired or unavailable, does anyone know a way to get this equipment?
U guys r forgetting that the vikings traveled all the way to central asia, and traded in the silky way. And there is a high possibility that they used other armor than just a chainmail and a helmet. They may have adopted the lamellar, and made it a part of theyre culture as well. Even without historical evidence except the Birka Lamellar.
The vikings was fighting alot of rus, and the rus did use lamellar cuz they too were both fighting and trading with the mongols. Who DID wear lamellar at the time. Because that was theyre armor culture. And lamellar armor offers better protection against projectile weapons, and blunt weapons. However chainmail offers a bigger area of protection. And the vikings did use bow and arrows, and they knew the weakness of the chainmail
Weakness nr.1: Blunt impact, and yes they used theyre winter coat to reduce the impact
Weakness nr.2: Piercing, which is probably the biggest weakness, considering that chainmail is not a standalone armor, so a armor piercing arrow would pierce right through the mail AND winter coat alike.
The vikings wasnt stupid, if they were fighting enemies with better gear, which they did, they would have adopted it. Only idiots would reject the option. And this is just my opinion tho. Cuz if i were living 1000 years ago. I would have adopted other types of armor as well. And i am not even the sharpest tool in the shed. I am just realistic
I would recommend a fur Mantle to make your shoulders look a little broader, and make you look a nudge bigger.
Nah, that's next level fantasy viking.
Really like this color scheme.
Did Vikings really use qaif’s under their helmets? (Don’t know how it’s spelled). And it’s really interesting to see the similarities between this armor and Turkish armor from the same timeperiod!
The coif would not come in use until late viking age. Wich this set is inspierd from. On some of the armor parts i think he went for a varangian guard look. They were nore mercaneries in todays greece.
It is because this style was imported from persia. These are not really "viking" helmets, these are imported persian and to some degree roman style helmets.
Nightceasar the helmet is clearly taking inspiration from the Gjermundbu-helmet. What about it is persian?
Lord Hermis Those helmets were most likely imported from Persia back then. It is actually the same time period when the trade would most likely happen. What makes it persian, well the fact that persians used those helmets in their military among others and norsemen commonly used the Volga trade route to travel there and trade for better steel and armaments (vikings were seafaring tradesmen) so it was not an uncommon site to see norsemen trading in bazaars and shops back then. You see the Persian empire was a huge market and sort of like the U.S.A today many people would either try to live there or trade there. Have you not heard of the Silk Road for instance? I can give you a link of a Swedish professor talking about it if you want. let me see if I can find anything, it was so long ago I saw video.
Lord Hermis I could not find the original video but there are clips here on this site, it also explains some of it. kavehfarrokh.com/arthurian-legends-and-iran-europe-links/the-viking-ulfberht-sword-and-persian-steel/
As explained by professor Ljungqvist.
Looks like Varangian Guard))) Eastern lamellar armour, late "scandinavian"/"russian" type helmet. Big kite shield.
If you made the helmet, did you document the process? Links anything? It would be much appreciated! I checked the description and i din't see it there. Or maybe someone could direct me to a video of a forge that made one such as this? Thanks alot!
Check my videos, I posted a video with pictures i took during production.
The lamellar is really cool and all but isn’t it pretty rare for the Vikings? I know they wore it a little but.... not that much. Still a pretty damn cool set though! Good job!
Yes its rare. If you had armor like this during that time. You most likely had status and wealth. The average viking was a normal farmer or tradesman . Most vikings dident even have swords. They used Axes. Spears and Bows. The more wealthy ones with status hand more fancy Equipment like Swords, and better protection.
Did you cut out all the platelets for the lamellar or did you buy them (and if so, were they specifically for armor or where they mending braces or the such)?
can't tell if it's from the helmet or not, but the weapons look really small in comparison
Really nice video!
Is the weight of your armour historically accurate?
If yes, is it possible to give the weights of each 'piece'?
Did you make the mail on the helm? Also, did you use any padding where your nose is?
Very impressive. Fair play to you sir.
Lamellar over mail and Gambesson, why? Isn't that kinda overkill?
I memorised only elder futharc, specifically the danish/Anglo-Saxon version. So if it is actually something legible in one of the later systems forgive me.
Are you wearing an undershirt under the tunic?
Uh no
Lamellar? Why?
i would like to know more about the original viking helmet's you have a replica version of the original type of viking helmet could you make a video of how strong the helmet is and how many blow it can stop to protect the person who has the helmet on
I can do a review on my Lord of Battles Helm yeah. I modded the crap out of it tho.
Does your lamelar reaches to the natural waist? Or to the hips
Right above the hips. So i can still move easily
I love your 9th to 11th century viking kit bud. but the helmet is 7th century but other than that really awesome kit man. Just subscribe
Maybe it was a hand me down from an ancestor (the helm)
@@thewisp7447 I tryed that's as excuse during a reenactment of the great army attacks and the authenticy officer wasn't having any of it he said the spectical helm we were out by that time they were already late by the 7th century when the helmet was found
The kite shield is 11th century, just so you know.
@@WarDogMadnessThe only (mostly) complete viking age helmet from Scandinavia that has survived is the gjermundbu helmet which is a spectacle helmet and it dates to around 970. There are a few from the vendel period aswell but they to are mostly spectacle helms, given the time gap of around 200 years it is safe to assume that the spectacle design remained in use even if only by the few norsemen that had helmets.
@@Konradpagano Or late tenth century,illustrated first in the late 900`s in the gospels of Otto III and then later in the famous bayeux tapestry,usually on horseback,by Norman cavalry. No surviving example exists of the late viking era or has been discovered...yet….
I always thought that the helmet was much smaller, guess it was just the viking **DEUS VULT** helmet equivalent
The armor looks good enough for a rider of Rohan.
Great work on that armor!
Superbe combat kit . Juste a Little woried about the mail glove versus a good dane axe Blow.
whats the helmet called?
A vendel helmet my good sir
@@mtfunitninetailedfoxcomman3109 I did research and now I know, but thanks!
Serpent your welcome kind sir I rather fancy vendels they look nice but I still prefer a good hound skull helm tho
My main weapon of choice is a rapier, so it has been hard to find fitting armour for my main armament that also follows historical accuracy well enough. Does anyone have any suggestions.
Breast and back, gauntlets with chainmail palm, morion(or a steel cap hidden in the crown of a wide-brimmed floppy hat)
You were talking about sport combat however Im concerned about the seeming lack of leg protection. Do you have some metal armour/padding underneath your pants?
Yep, hidden knees and heavy padding on the legs underneath.
I'm harassed by that assymmetrical extra protection for the upper arm
Very beautiful kit. What organization or group are you in. I am in the Society For Creative Anachronism. We don't use live steal that's what made me curious. I hope no one gets hurt.
Thank you! I run a small group called Knights of the North and we have been doing rebated steel combat for a few years now. We have had very minor injuries in our group, steel is only marginally more dangerous than rattan if you play it safe.
Why do the forehead runes read Uzth?
nothing for the legs? well I know where I would target.
The shield is a good deterrent for that, but it is definitely something to keep aware about.
"We'll call it a draw!"
Did Vikings/Varangians actually use lamellar? And is a Vendel period helm really the same as a 10th century helm?
This kit looks awesome, I'm just iffy on the history.
Thirdtrys Acharm
I have heard of one find of lamellar, in Birka Sweden. I'm not sure when it dated back to but I think it may have been the late viking age. Though they would have been very uncommon. I have heard of a few finds from the Rus' in modern day Russia and Ukraine. So it would have been more common with Rus' "Vikings", though they're not really Vikings. So it was uncommon to see lamellar with the Vikings but it wouldn't have been impossible for one to have used it.
Brad is correct, the lamellar is iffy for accuracy but not impossible. and the helm I do intend to switch out for a rus style, but the vendel/Viking ocular style was easiest to adapt for heavy combat and the spangen style was easier for my first attempt at building a helmet.
Maybe the Vendel helmet was a family hand me down...
But I admit, it looks a little too clean.
Hello! Wonderfull kitt! How many lamellar pieces did it take to make the harnes? Im trying to build my self a viking kitt and strugling to try to figgure out how many i need to make/by :)
About 600 though I will say lamellar is not very accurate for vikingss. If you wanna go viking maille and a gambeson are good body armor. Lamellar is good for Rus tho!
That equipment would be for a wealthy viking or every men used to wear all those things?
Armour like this was not very comon amongst the vikings, just like swords, only the wealthier people like jarls had the money for it.
What century is this armor?
I love these kinds of helmets
very nice. was wondering how many weapons u got under that 😅👌