WB said 'someone strong is coming' meaning Oden and he midd diffed him Shanks said the same about Kid and he one shotted him They said this because they didn't want their crew to fight them and be defeated. The same with Luffy. He's scared for HIS CREW and not for himself
lol facts i love how marine fans always cope with unimportant stuff like that luffy just said it to say it i think even gear 2 luffy will be enough for kizaru
True Luffy wasntnscared but c9ncerned that out if nowhere a topmt8er appeared. Nevertheless Luffy is not gonna one shot or low diff Kizaru. It's atleast a mid diff b8t probably high to extreme high diff. That doesn't have anything to do with Marine fans but Admirals are underestimated for the longest time and the strongest forces of the marines aren't far off the strongest pirates
@@jleonlove7965 Luffy has the strength to defeat kizaru in base form ACoC and gear 2 but he lacks the speed. Becoz base Luffy was going toe to toe with Hybrid kaido. I think Luffy can defeat kizaru in snakeman + ACoC
1.) Y’all One Piece RUclipsrs can’t read. Greenbull wasn’t scared of Kaido. He legally couldn’t fight Kaido. If we look at the chapter with Lucci which I believe is 1069. Kaku tells Lucci don’t attack the Strawhats since he’s a yonko and they need approval from above. 2.) The other Cp0 agent says a skirmish with a Yonko crew could start a war which would put both sides in a disadvantage. Greenbull in chapter 1053 says the navy doesn’t have spare manpower. Again showing that a fight against a Yonko would cause more casualties than needed. 3.) Before the timeskip Garp says that if any of the 3 great power fall the world would crumble so that’s why they gotta keep the balance but weird you’d leave all of that out. 4.) Greenbull wasn’t trying to kill Momosuke. But notice how when Kaido got bit by Momonosuke he was screaming out in pain. When GB got bit by Momonosuke he shrugged it off. When Kaido got hit by Yamato he started bleeding. When Greenbull got hit by Yamato he said that was some strong haki. Gb then proceeds to low diff Momo, Yamato, and the scabbards. About to kill them until shanks showed up all of that you somehow forgot to mention which is interesting. 5.) Now another thing of Gb was scared of Kaido. Why would he go and try to fight someone who just beat Kaido. Does that make any sense? 6.) You brought up the admirals being relative. Kuzan while holding back can go bar for bar with Garp someone who’s relative to Roger. Even Roger saying they’ve almost killed each other many times. Kuzan even did this when he was younger and didn’t know haki. So he could keep up with Garp in base with no haki. Can do it now with haki but holding back. 7.) Next Akainu. Akainu has been stated to have the strongest offensive Df. Which would blatantly be over Kaido. Akainu even beat Wb while holding back. Taking off half his face and putting holes in him. This same Wb is stated to be the strongest man in the world. This is an actual statement unlike Kaidos which is just the civilians say he’s the strongest creature. The yonko are stated to be relative. Even stated by Buggy to be the strongest man. Could even stop Wbs attack in 568. He also made BB run 8.) So if the admirals are relative that means Kizarus Ap>Luffy. Since both Akainu and Wb both have the strongest Ap showings. Kizaru could also fight Rayleigh someone BB was scared of with 2 dfs. Stop using non canon movies for an argument. Again Kizaru cannot fight a Yonko without permission. That statement says abilities are canon not fights so again you’d be wrong. 9.) For speed youd still be wrong. Since the yonkos are stated to be relative. Kizaru blitzed Wb multiple times during MF. So Kizaru>Luffy in speed. Are we using cinematography to say Luffy and Shanks are the same speed I’ve heard it all. Don’t forget Kuzan could go bar for bar with Garp even while holding back. The same Garp who’s relative to Roger. Still putting Kizaru above Luffy. Kizaru isn’t trying against Marco and blitzes Marco twice. 10.) The same Marco who had relative combat speed to Big Mom, King, and Queen. Who Gb no diffed. Putting Kizaru>them. In a non bias conclusion Kizaru low diffs Kizaru. Yes Kizaru is over Kaido. Why would Luffy be scared of someone he can low diff does that make sense but seeing as how your comprehension skills are low I can see how. Luffy can sense how strong Kizaru is. Don’t forget Zoro states from island to island the Strawhats get stronger. As stories go that means the villans get stronger. Especially in Shonen putting Kizaru>Kaido easily. 11.) Luffy wasn’t scared of Kizaru then. Cause h was injected with adrenaline. His only goal no matter what was to save Ace. He couldn’t sense people with haki which both Rayleigh and Mihawk say is valuable skill for fighting opponents. Which Luffy couldn’t do at the time. Fujitora and Sabo aren’t relative notice how Fujitora left without a scratch and didn’t even try his hardest against Sabo. Yet when we see Fujitora fight Greenbull he gets bandages. Fujitora>>>Sabo by a large margin. Kizaru is low diffing Sanji and Zoro together. Seeing as their 2 toughest opponents got no diffed by Greenbull. 12.) Anyway take fights from RUclipsrs seriously who don’t blatantly leave out information, arent bias, and actually have comprehension skills to understand both sides instead of reading just 1 side while reading 2 words for the other side unlike this guy
@@weloveyouevil Not really it would be irrelavent if luffy loses the fight, and everything is still up in the air so we dont know if luffy will even fight kizaru
It won’t be extremely close sambaody happened over a decade ago and we seen how much straw hats have gotten stronger why would they be struggling like they did back then that wouldn’t make much sense narritvley. They will collectively give adimiral kizaru a Run for his money to show their progress
@@youngfish1370and kid still got one tapped that doesn't change anything yeah oden and kizaru are powerful you know Luffy had the same reaction to ulti
The problem with power scaling is we get to see a post time skip feats from yonko, but only saw pre time skip feat from admirals. Like pre time skip, we never though shanks, garp has those attacks. And after kaido fight the power creep will just keep increasing. And we have yet to see a logia awakening. There’s a reason why it is the strongest types of devil fruit. And people arguing if luffy will beat kizaru? Of course he would, no char even admirals or other yonko can beat luffy. Lets be real now lol.
I feel this arc isn't about Kizaru or Luffy winning the fight. It's about debuting a logia awakening in combat (on screen) and Luffy being strong enough to protect his crew from an admiral level threat.
It's no power creep tbh the kaido stuff is handled well cause he was fightin multiple ppl so it's balanced for now when luffy fights admiral 1vs1 he would struggle
Luffy vs Saturn would be fire ngl, finally seeing the gorosei in action as they work under Imu who is likely the final villain, since Saturn also has complete control over the seraphim he might also try to gang bang Luffy with them but that shit probably wouldn't work either way
the statement for the admirals are relative doesnt even exclude the possibility that that one is stronger than the other it never implies that they are relative
“The higher the rank the more charisma and fighting power” seems like a pretty blatant statement of relativity to me admirals are also called the strongest fighting force of the navy and this includes Fuji and green bull who quite literally fight each other same with Akinu and Aokiji and Fuji is Also sent to accompany kizaru in film red it’s consistent they’re all around the same level
@@sbthesage2100 We still to this day have never seen an an admiral go all out. You could argue Akainu and he took off half of white beards head. Idk man I think luffy will for sure win but I also think you’re sleeeping heavily on the admirals
@@skinfluithero4885 by his logic, yonko are also equal and bigmom = shanks... when shanks make greenbull ran away, people be like :- "shanks > greenbull, means yonko >>>> all admirals" but what about akainu making whole yonko blackbeard crew ran away? should i automatically assume that all admirals >>> all yonko crew? same title doesn't mean same level of power...
Haha man we need to work on the communities power scaling. Way too much head canon. I’ll only ask this, bar luffy what top tiers is Kaido said to have defeated? People are gonna complain when luffy gets pushed extremely hard in the next few chapters. To say an admiral is not close to top tiers is nonsense.
I do think admirals are definitely top tier, and are close to the yonko in power. But for kizaru? He really needs to show us something new, all he's shown so far, he'll get bodied by luffy... His lightsword is pretty damn slow. His light beams are his best attacks because they are all lightspeed, and have good destructive capabilities, but even base post timeskip luffy could easily react to them and even called them "too slow". Yes they were pacifista beams, but it was CONFIRMED like twice at this point, that they were literally made from kizaru himself. Base kaido proceeded to blitz a way stronger, faster, and more skilled luffy WHILE HE WAS USING FUTURE SIGHT. That already puts base kaido (or his thunder bagua atleast) WAYYY above anything kizaru has shown us. Hybrid kaido is even stronger and faster Than that, and luffy proceeded to keep up, and even outspeed him in gear 4 snakeman and gear 5. Luffy is mopping the floor with kizaru. Kizaru seriously needs to pull out some insane bullshit if he wants to even give luffy a challenge.
@@otto3944 other than the fact it’s been confirmed admirals have never gone all out yet. Even kuzan vs Garp he was confirmed holding back. Also we know admirals have advanced haki plus awakening. That’s plenty to close the gap
We’re about to see kizaru in a few chapters. He’s awakening is what I’m looking forward, as we haven’t seen an awakened logia at all. We’ve seen awakened paramecia, zoan and even all 3 types of advance haki but we have yet to see logia awakening so it will be interesting.
Ehhh, weak argument but i agree that luffy wins. When kizaru says his defense is the "best in the world" i can see that being the case, he could be like katakuri on steroids (in terms of moving his form to dodge attacks). The movie talk is kinda dumb imo, of COURSE the admirals arent gonna go all out or win in a movie lmfao. Their whole thing is not going all out anyway (which i hope changes here). I also think it's no question that kizaru is stronger than greenbull, and greenbull's showing in wano was...mixed to say the least. Kizaru was ready to pull up on kaido, bm and luffy SOLO. I really, truly do not get the childish hyper-agenda shit when it comes to admirals/yonko stuff. Kizaru is an endgame-caliber fighter with an insane devil fruit, and i just couldnt be more excited for him to finally show of its potential, whether its against luffy or zoro/sanji. Plus he's an amazing character as well, and I'm interested to see the layers of his style of justice play out here.
Definitely can't wait to see him go all out and show us the true potential of his fruit, because alot of top tiers like kaido and luffy have already far surpassed lightspeed. I can't wait to see what kizaru has in store...
@@madadaff2880 guess we can scale smoker to being able to clash with post time skip sanji and also able capture the weaker straw hats with minimal effort
I like the way this guy talks 😂 Things aren't looking too good for kizaru especially considering the "Admirals holding back" trend Oda has been showing us in this arc, considering what happened to green bull and fujitora🥲 I think Oda has a specific arc when the Admirals won't be restricted any longer ...but probably won't be now.
Kizaru is going to be incredibly strong, oda has been playing around with admiral portrayal especially with greenbull specifically to shock people when they end up being Yonko level. If you think the oldest and most confident OG admiral with one of the most OP devil fruits is getting low diffed you are delusional.
up until now no admirals have being defeat in a non of screen fight by any pirate. don't get me wrong i m not saying that kizaru is the same as kaido but i have many hope for the admirals. in one piece luffy have been destroyed by every one of the 3 admirals. luffy get oneshoot by aokiji before marineford. kizaru play with the crew and luffy at sabaody and luffy at marineford. we don't even have to talk about akainu. we don't really know the full power of the admirals. i thinks it would be fair if we had a 1 v 1 luffy and kizaru.
White beard left that nigga Sakazuki paralyzed after eating 2 heart attacks a magma fist to the chest getting half his face knocked off while being 80 years old what are we taking ab lol
@@sbthesage2100 admirals haven’t showcased they’re awakening and always restrain themselves due to the terrain, we’ll see how kizaru vs luffy plays out, maybe you’re right Also greenbull was scared of kaido, there has to be a reason kizaru wasn’t, either kizaru is just delusional and retarded or he has the power to feel comfortable going head to head with not just one but two yonko (kaido and big mom).
@@sbthesage2100lol sakazuki literally mid diff old wb. Blew half of his face and brain and tanked 2 island splitting attacks and got right back with just a nose bleed.
Lol wtf did wb gave to akainu? nosebleed? 😂. That’s all he did to akainu. He took a chunk of wb face, scar jimbei, scar luffy and literally traumatized hin and last but not the lease, he made the world’s famous ace donut 😂.
@@jeandane.6156 he didn’t mid diff shit WB was tanking his lava b4 his heart attack and bum ass Akinu gets a free shot and still dosent kill him WB then has another heart attack and still beats his ass b4 dying from illness the Akinu copers are fucking nuts also harming WB isint a feat either guns swords and cannons did the same thing ig squard is Akinu level lol
Why do all thinks that luffy will lose to kizaru. While luffy holds the most ridiculous power. Kizaru's eyes will pop out and breaks his glasses when he sees luffy catching his light projectiles and brought it all back on kizaru using body as a slingshot like luffy does with normal bullets. All of you who believes that luffy will lose will get your eyes pop out of it's socket when he beats kizaru into a pulp.
@@jojobodhow? We literally haven't seen anything new from him. His lightsword is pretty damn slow. His light beams are his best attacks because they are all lightspeed, and have good destructive capabilities, but even base post timeskip luffy could easily react to them and even called them "too slow". Yes they were pacifista beams, but it was CONFIRMED like twice at this point, that they were literally made from kizaru himself. Base kaido proceeded to blitz a way stronger, faster, and more skilled luffy WHILE HE WAS USING FUTURE SIGHT. That already puts base kaido (or his thunder bagua atleast) WAYYY above anything kizaru has shown us. Hybrid kaido is even stronger and faster Than that, and luffy proceeded to keep up, and even outspeed him in gear 4 snakeman and gear 5. Luffy is mopping the floor with kizaru. Now for zoro and sanji, it's more debatable, sanji is straight up faster than kizaru (no debate, sanji blitzed queen to the point queen though sanji went invisible, and literally couldn't do shit against sanji, who was still having an existential crisis) the same queen (who was in hybrid form btw, which is a zoan's strongest form) could easily atleast PERCEIVE king and marco in base, marco who could keep up a bit with kizaru (at the very least he could see his attacks). Zoro with all broken bones from trying to redirect that double yonko attack, stalled kaido for a bit, and even got a hit in, (now this could just be kaido tryna see what zoro can do, but its still impressive that he could clash with kaido, and even kinda outspeed him with ashura). Zoro legit has feats comparable to base Ryo luffy, who could keep up with kaido, which again, literally puts him above kizaru (in speed atleast) in everything that he's shown. Kizaru seriously needs to pull out some insane bullshit if he wants to even give luffy a challenge. (Now zoro and sanji can move pretty damn fast, but kizaru is better in his pure attack speed, because literally everything he pulls out is lightspeed, except his stupid light sword, which just nerfs him for no reason, but everything else is lightspeed) and sanji and zoro can't really just keep attacking at lightspeed or beyond, sanji still needs that tiny bit of time to let out a kick, and same for zoro slashing. But I guess we'll have to wait and see, speed isn't always the only important factor in a fight. Also for all we know, it could be that luffy is talking about Saturn and not kizaru, we're not too sure (logically I think it should be kizaru but we'll see)...
How do you even know how strong is kizaru? We never seen him serious. And we never seen admiral vs yonko. Not sure your logic makes any sense. How can you say marco rivaled kizaru ?? This is crazy
Bro even though he is not serious he did not hold back against some stupid low grade pirate when he came to saboady arcpaligo .he didn't even take down any Whitebeard Commander and was struggling to defeat a handcuffs Marco in Marinford war Well I am not saying kizaru is weak even though I'm not that convinced on his theory too much I might think kizaru can give luffy a troublesome fight but defeating him will just make power scaling a little bit confusing
Which is smarter this dude should of waited he’s trying to scale luffy someone we’ve seen go all out to kizuru someone we haven’t seen try he has to use other admirals and what they’ve done to make a case as to why kizuru is losing
Clearly yonko where hyped to all hell and you guys bought it, clear your bias and headcanon then you’ll enjoy the story. Admirals where never weak, ever!!
The cope is crazy, if luffy could do all of this he wouldn't be terrified of kizaru. We have never seen kizaru fight and we'll see that in 1091. Liffy Is gonna take a fat L
@@Fallen-EmperorThe Japanese Kanji that is shown next to Luffy’s terrified face literally means “scared/terrified.” So yeah Luffy is fucking Shook to death.
Yeah no all the admirals are not gonna be relative this is some 2015 logic bigmom and kaido are not relative that been shown kizaru hasn’t even gone all out so I don’t know why your talking like this factual kizaru will show out
Kaido was the strongest being in the world and Gear 5 Luffy whooped his ass, kaido also had supreme kings haki which kizaru doesn’t have so a Gear 5 Luffy using advanced supreme kings haki and His new Ruyo technique with advanced observation haki and literally the ability to do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING HE THINKS OF AND TURNS ANYTHING INTO RUBBER Kizaru is gonna get folded like a sheet of paper Luffy will easily catch his light attacks see everything he’s doing and will turn him into a joke like he did to kaido when he was using gear 5. Honestly anyone who think kizaru will beat Luffy means that they think kizaru is stronger than kaido which he’s definitely not so if Luffy can stomp kaido who kept adapting to the fight then he’s gonna have no problem with kizaru just like how he used gear 5 on lucci and folded him in a panel and a half he whooped Robs ass lol. If Oda makes kizaru win then he’s definitely messed up the scaling of power because if kizaru is that much stronger than kaido then they wouldn’t have been freaking out so much when big mom and kaido became Allies. The only reason Oda would make kizaru keep up with Luffy is to make the scaling even which is really dumb the whole point of Luffy getting gear 5 and mastering his haki and Ruyo was to be stronger than previous characters like kizaru. I’m just saying as huge One piece fans and Dragonball fans my wife and I have been watching OP and DBZ since we were kids in the 90s when it first aired and I’ll tell you there’s no way he lets kizaru beat gear 5 Luffy especially since they hyped how it’s the most ridiculous and powerful fruit in the world and no other fruit can match it if Oda makes kizaru on that level then that’s poor writing and very predictable. Just remember Kaido was the strongest being on earth way stronger than any marines that’s why they freaked out about kaido and big mom if the marines were stronger they wouldn’t worry and since Luffy took down kaido and had mastered his haki and awakened the most powerful DF in existence technically Luffy is now the strongest being on earth. Just saying this just our opinions take it how you want everyone has there own views lol
I think the crew will beat kizaru let’s be honest this whole set up it’s reflecting sanbody and they got decimated there. It was to show how much more the straw hat’s needed to advance, now it seems like a reflection of that but this time it will be the straw hats taking the W. It’s a epic comparison with the outcome showing the advances the crew has made. If he losses it losses all meaning in the emperor name sake he won’t be a threat and will be lazy writing to do sanbody 2.0
Calling Fujitora relative to kizaru is generally the biggest overstatement known to man he’s nowhere near as powerful, even struggling against doffy no, I think of other statements kizaru does have a chance to win or be at least a good match
@@sbthesage2100 that’s the thing we literally have 0 feats other than speculation just like the Yonkos it was stated that the admirals do have a similar level of power yet every admiral shouldn’t be equal, considering that there’s definitely a yonko hierarchy that literally for instance, including the help of the other Blackbeard pirates aokiji was able to take out Garp, seemingly, of course the man who rival the pirate king at his peak sure he’s not a strong, but that’s an impressive feat, considering that kizaru also was definitely beating Rayleigh in his fight on Sabaody which has been looked at by multiple people to be the case admirals by themselves don’t have enough feats only statements Beckman was even shown at marine Ford to be sweating. Even after he was held at gunpoint. He just flies up and starts blasting, which shows obviously he was trying to hold back for the most part.
I assumed Luffy was scared because he was sensing Jay Garcia somewhere. But, him worrying about his crew is also credible to some extent. He still has Zoro and Sanji there, so I doubt he'd be too worried considering they were chilling when GB pulled up to Wano, and Luffy wasn't even concerned about Momo's safety, who's weaker than just about every Strawhat aside from maybe Usopp
Bro go read the fucking chapter Luffy sensed kizaru goofy it doesn’t take critical thinking to see and understand that on pages and dialogue. Stop reading 1001 fragments and read one piece
also kiazru vs shanks was the same as ben vs kizaru and is simply him being not serious and going all out and luffy being worried for his crew because of kizaru is nonsense if he can beat him, luffy just brought his crew to a island with two yonkos on it.
Then explain why luffy could give less of a shit when he was facing 3 ADMIRALS not just kizaru himself. Or when he sensed fujitora's strength, he said that this old man is pretty strong or something like that, luffy was pretty much fodder at that point, and fujitora should be comparable to the other admirals. Based on feats and scaling, luffy absolutely mops the floor with kizaru. My theory is that it was Saturn who luffy was talking about, not kizaru, or maybe it was kizaru and its either oda is making it all intense and suspenseful because it's literally the last page of the chapter and everyone will stay wondering what'll happen next. Or that luffy is just chilling tryna get on his damn boat all willy-nilly, until he senses A GODDAMN ADMIRAL coming their way lmao. For big mom and kaido, atleats he was focused on kinemon and the other scabbards laying on the floor. Also this whole "he looks so worried that "kizaru" is coming, that means he's stronger" or whatever the hell poeple are tryna say, is flawed as hell. Like, are we saying that kizaru is stronger than both big mom and kaido at the same time??
Lmao except kizaru woukdnt do that if shanks and Ben weren’t a threat to him and B4 you mention kizaru still moving after this Ben literally wasn’t paying attention bc Aokiji causes a distraction pls read one piece dog it’s literally stated the admirals fear Bens power and it’s reiterated in a statement from film red we also literally see Bozaru sweating from simple conquers Haki
@@sbthesage2100Wanna know something funny too? WhiteBeard and Sengoku were sweating from Luffy’s Conquerors Haki in Marineford in Chapter 569 as well. So by your logic Pre-TimeSkip Luffy > WB and Sengoku, right? Also Ben wasn’t distracted by Aokiji by any means, it didn’t show such a thing in the Manga. 😂 Ben did fuck all against Kizaru, and that’s a contradiction to Shanks’ power level if the scan you’re referring to implies that the Admirals fear Ben’s Power since the Admirals weren’t even scared of Shanks when they saw him in Marineford. Does that mean Ben > Shanks? See what I mean? It makes no sense for them to fear Ben but not Shanks lmao. Also I’m using Manga btw, not filler scenes from The Trash Anime Adaptation.
Luffy weakness is his timelimit using gear 5 Kizaru can easilly ploy that weakness by trolling him an staying out reach attacking his allies cloning himself vise versa....Heck Luffy alredy lose again he ran outta time again smh 😂
also momo only hurt green bull becuase its fire vs a grass type and not power levels. mom is weaker then all the worst generation and kiazru would one hit them with kick like he did in the past
You admiral meat riders are brain dead 😂 How is Big mom weaker than the worst generation? It literally took two people above Zoro to awaken their devil fruits before they could even barely push her off balance into lava These two people in their base are stronger than katakuri Who Luffy who was stronger than all the worst generation that was taken down by kizaru had just managed to win against So big mom scales over kizaru
Why is this the case momo literally puts a hole in green bull before burning him and he literally resisted a fire attack b4 this what the hell 😂 bolo breath is just powerful bro
ok hear me out im no fan of admiral why are they deeply underestimated?? in pirate we have emperors and those 3 admirals were the emperor in marines (get what im trying to say?) there's no way they will be that weak we tend to forget that aokiji is matching up with prime garp and who did aokiji lose to? akainu right? and kizaru don't have any interest on being the head thats why he didn't bother to join so just basing that aokiji lose to akainu means he a monster too so i hope we can enjoy this moment and stop looking down on them even tho they hate pirates and want to arrest them all we know that they are not stupid enough to just start a war for that reason
@@obamawasreal0264 not really we didn’t see Luffy fighting kizaru at all then we saw gear 4 Luffy deflecting his attacks then he gets kicked at accelerated speed after being blinded which we can’t really quantify and then we see gear 5 Luffy messing around and seemingly one shoting or severely injuring kizaru like he did lucci which was the prediction
@@sbthesage2100 which is objectively wrong and it's kizaru who was blocking it and kizaru wasn't even visibly hurt by the attack and your saying that momonosuke was over greenbull and kizaru is equal is extremely comedic
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WB said 'someone strong is coming' meaning Oden and he midd diffed him
Shanks said the same about Kid and he one shotted him
They said this because they didn't want their crew to fight them and be defeated. The same with Luffy. He's scared for HIS CREW and not for himself
lol facts i love how marine fans always cope with unimportant stuff like that luffy just said it to say it i think even gear 2 luffy will be enough for kizaru
True Luffy wasntnscared but c9ncerned that out if nowhere a topmt8er appeared. Nevertheless Luffy is not gonna one shot or low diff Kizaru. It's atleast a mid diff b8t probably high to extreme high diff. That doesn't have anything to do with Marine fans but Admirals are underestimated for the longest time and the strongest forces of the marines aren't far off the strongest pirates
@@jleonlove7965 Luffy has the strength to defeat kizaru in base form ACoC and gear 2 but he lacks the speed. Becoz base Luffy was going toe to toe with Hybrid kaido. I think Luffy can defeat kizaru in snakeman + ACoC
@@pops-shirohigeAHAHAHA
Get a feeling scalers is gonna be grasping straws when kizaru ends up stronger than we ever imagined.
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i dont think hes gonna win though, dont know what oda is gonna do but im about 90% kizaru is getting goofed on by gear 5
Yeah, I don't think there'll be 2nd Sabaody.
But, I'd more than happy if Kizaru gives the straw hats a fking terrifying fight.
yeah people think that were saying that kizaru is gonna win but we just mean like its gonna be a hard fight at least
Don't be disappointed.
not even 1 good argument, damn.
Are you sure about that?!
This vid is gonna age like milk 😂
I'll be back with the L
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Damn someone is coping hard
Milk is still good. Read 1092 my boy. Your comment aged like milk.
@@Osjey explain how it aged like milk, all we saw was luffy was sent flying lol and he grabbed kizaru which isn’t a big deal
This man is the first youtuber who says one piece characters are faster than light. Much respect...
He isn't
1.) Y’all One Piece RUclipsrs can’t read. Greenbull wasn’t scared of Kaido. He legally couldn’t fight Kaido. If we look at the chapter with Lucci which I believe is 1069. Kaku tells Lucci don’t attack the Strawhats since he’s a yonko and they need approval from above.
2.) The other Cp0 agent says a skirmish with a Yonko crew could start a war which would put both sides in a disadvantage. Greenbull in chapter 1053 says the navy doesn’t have spare manpower. Again showing that a fight against a Yonko would cause more casualties than needed.
3.) Before the timeskip Garp says that if any of the 3 great power fall the world would crumble so that’s why they gotta keep the balance but weird you’d leave all of that out.
4.) Greenbull wasn’t trying to kill Momosuke. But notice how when Kaido got bit by Momonosuke he was screaming out in pain. When GB got bit by Momonosuke he shrugged it off. When Kaido got hit by Yamato he started bleeding. When Greenbull got hit by Yamato he said that was some strong haki. Gb then proceeds to low diff Momo, Yamato, and the scabbards. About to kill them until shanks showed up all of that you somehow forgot to mention which is interesting.
5.) Now another thing of Gb was scared of Kaido. Why would he go and try to fight someone who just beat Kaido. Does that make any sense?
6.) You brought up the admirals being relative. Kuzan while holding back can go bar for bar with Garp someone who’s relative to Roger. Even Roger saying they’ve almost killed each other many times. Kuzan even did this when he was younger and didn’t know haki. So he could keep up with Garp in base with no haki. Can do it now with haki but holding back.
7.) Next Akainu. Akainu has been stated to have the strongest offensive Df. Which would blatantly be over Kaido. Akainu even beat Wb while holding back. Taking off half his face and putting holes in him.
This same Wb is stated to be the strongest man in the world. This is an actual statement unlike Kaidos which is just the civilians say he’s the strongest creature. The yonko are stated to be relative. Even stated by Buggy to be the strongest man. Could even stop Wbs attack in 568. He also made BB run
8.) So if the admirals are relative that means Kizarus Ap>Luffy. Since both Akainu and Wb both have the strongest Ap showings. Kizaru could also fight Rayleigh someone BB was scared of with 2 dfs. Stop using non canon movies for an argument. Again Kizaru cannot fight a Yonko without permission. That statement says abilities are canon not fights so again you’d be wrong.
9.) For speed youd still be wrong. Since the yonkos are stated to be relative. Kizaru blitzed Wb multiple times during MF. So Kizaru>Luffy in speed. Are we using cinematography to say Luffy and Shanks are the same speed I’ve heard it all. Don’t forget Kuzan could go bar for bar with Garp even while holding back. The same Garp who’s relative to Roger. Still putting Kizaru above Luffy. Kizaru isn’t trying against Marco and blitzes Marco twice.
10.) The same Marco who had relative combat speed to Big Mom, King, and Queen. Who Gb no diffed. Putting Kizaru>them. In a non bias conclusion Kizaru low diffs Kizaru. Yes Kizaru is over Kaido. Why would Luffy be scared of someone he can low diff does that make sense but seeing as how your comprehension skills are low I can see how. Luffy can sense how strong Kizaru is. Don’t forget Zoro states from island to island the Strawhats get stronger. As stories go that means the villans get stronger. Especially in Shonen putting Kizaru>Kaido easily.
11.) Luffy wasn’t scared of Kizaru then. Cause h was injected with adrenaline. His only goal no matter what was to save Ace. He couldn’t sense people with haki which both Rayleigh and Mihawk say is valuable skill for fighting opponents. Which Luffy couldn’t do at the time. Fujitora and Sabo aren’t relative notice how Fujitora left without a scratch and didn’t even try his hardest against Sabo. Yet when we see Fujitora fight Greenbull he gets bandages. Fujitora>>>Sabo by a large margin.
Kizaru is low diffing Sanji and Zoro together. Seeing as their 2 toughest opponents got no diffed by Greenbull.
12.) Anyway take fights from RUclipsrs seriously who don’t blatantly leave out information, arent bias, and actually have comprehension skills to understand both sides instead of reading just 1 side while reading 2 words for the other side unlike this guy
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣dumbest comment ive seen in a while
@@michaelrodney7898damm and you still didn’t try to debunk him
A comment with some fucking sense finally you can also tell this video is based for agenda since he says admirals tards and so on
@@michaelrodney7898Yet you can’t debunk shit.
"Bozaru" is crazy 😂
crazy how once the chapter is out this video will be completely irrelevant
Fax
how
@@jextern7961 why would oda do all this hype just for this outcome? this will be irrelevant if they fight
@@weloveyouevil Not really it would be irrelavent if luffy loses the fight, and everything is still up in the air so we dont know if luffy will even fight kizaru
@@jextern7961 I know, but him saying kizaru will get slammed is going to be irrelevant if they fight
Thank you this is what the people needed
Yea, yea, this is true with scaling, but we ALL know that this fight will be EXTREMELY close.
DONT FORGET KIZARU AWAKENING IS OP
@@papiridolo9263is it because I don't think we've seen it
It won’t be extremely close sambaody happened over a decade ago and we seen how much straw hats have gotten stronger why would they be struggling like they did back then that wouldn’t make much sense narritvley. They will collectively give adimiral kizaru a Run for his money to show their progress
WE ALSO DID NOT SEE KIZARU HAKI.....NO ADMIRAL HAS SHIT HAKI ;)@@5thYonko-xd2rv
@@tunnelvision7906bro over a decade 💀? It's almost 2 years and 6 months
Just want to mention that White Beard had the same "some one powerful is coming" moment right before Oden appeared
Shanks also reacted to Kid in a similar way before proceeding to one tap him
@@Swaggnifficthat’s cause Kid could’ve blasted away most of Shanks crew without future sight and Shanks didn’t hold back
Oden was someone powerful but in Luffys case this is serious
@@youngfish1370it's the same reaction stopping trying to make it seem like Luffy is scared. Kizaru ain't going to win
@@youngfish1370and kid still got one tapped that doesn't change anything yeah oden and kizaru are powerful you know Luffy had the same reaction to ulti
Kizaru is as strong as Oda wants him to be. He doesn't give a shit about your assumptions and power scalings.
Lmao when did you become oda and how do you know what he cares ab 💀 also my power scaling is based of odas words and writing dummy
The problem with power scaling is we get to see a post time skip feats from yonko, but only saw pre time skip feat from admirals. Like pre time skip, we never though shanks, garp has those attacks. And after kaido fight the power creep will just keep increasing. And we have yet to see a logia awakening. There’s a reason why it is the strongest types of devil fruit. And people arguing if luffy will beat kizaru? Of course he would, no char even admirals or other yonko can beat luffy. Lets be real now lol.
especially not when he has *hands spread out* Imagination
I feel this arc isn't about Kizaru or Luffy winning the fight. It's about debuting a logia awakening in combat (on screen) and Luffy being strong enough to protect his crew from an admiral level threat.
It's no power creep tbh the kaido stuff is handled well cause he was fightin multiple ppl so it's balanced for now when luffy fights admiral 1vs1 he would struggle
Speed blitz “Hozaru “ 😂
Luffy vs Saturn would be fire ngl, finally seeing the gorosei in action as they work under Imu who is likely the final villain, since Saturn also has complete control over the seraphim he might also try to gang bang Luffy with them but that shit probably wouldn't work either way
Saturn need chill on there ships kitchen so when they leave they just see him chilling there. Battle will be wrong
Just subscribed.. nice
the statement for the admirals are relative doesnt even exclude the possibility that that one is stronger than the other it never implies that they are relative
“The higher the rank the more charisma and fighting power” seems like a pretty blatant statement of relativity to me admirals are also called the strongest fighting force of the navy and this includes Fuji and green bull who quite literally fight each other same with Akinu and Aokiji and Fuji is Also sent to accompany kizaru in film red it’s consistent they’re all around the same level
@@sbthesage2100 We still to this day have never seen an an admiral go all out. You could argue Akainu and he took off half of white beards head. Idk man I think luffy will for sure win but I also think you’re sleeeping heavily on the admirals
@@sbthesage2100 yonko title is also relative, bigmom = shanks.
@@skinfluithero4885 by his logic, yonko are also equal and bigmom = shanks...
when shanks make greenbull ran away, people be like :- "shanks > greenbull, means yonko >>>> all admirals"
but what about akainu making whole yonko blackbeard crew ran away? should i automatically assume that all admirals >>> all yonko crew?
same title doesn't mean same level of power...
@@sbthesage2100 by your logic.
zoro = king = katakuri = marco = benn beckman = mihawk
bm = kaido = shanks = lufffy = bb
Haha man we need to work on the communities power scaling. Way too much head canon.
I’ll only ask this, bar luffy what top tiers is Kaido said to have defeated?
People are gonna complain when luffy gets pushed extremely hard in the next few chapters. To say an admiral is not close to top tiers is nonsense.
I do think admirals are definitely top tier, and are close to the yonko in power.
But for kizaru?
He really needs to show us something new, all he's shown so far, he'll get bodied by luffy...
His lightsword is pretty damn slow. His light beams are his best attacks because they are all lightspeed, and have good destructive capabilities, but even base post timeskip luffy could easily react to them and even called them "too slow".
Yes they were pacifista beams, but it was CONFIRMED like twice at this point, that they were literally made from kizaru himself.
Base kaido proceeded to blitz a way stronger, faster, and more skilled luffy WHILE HE WAS USING FUTURE SIGHT.
That already puts base kaido (or his thunder bagua atleast) WAYYY above anything kizaru has shown us.
Hybrid kaido is even stronger and faster Than that, and luffy proceeded to keep up, and even outspeed him in gear 4 snakeman and gear 5. Luffy is mopping the floor with kizaru.
Kizaru seriously needs to pull out some insane bullshit if he wants to even give luffy a challenge.
@@otto3944 other than the fact it’s been confirmed admirals have never gone all out yet. Even kuzan vs Garp he was confirmed holding back.
Also we know admirals have advanced haki plus awakening. That’s plenty to close the gap
We’re about to see kizaru in a few chapters. He’s awakening is what I’m looking forward, as we haven’t seen an awakened logia at all. We’ve seen awakened paramecia, zoan and even all 3 types of advance haki but we have yet to see logia awakening so it will be interesting.
@@Kilo1992kizaru awakening is gonna happen in final war .
You do realize that Gb took 0 damage from that shit?🤡
Also red film is not canon lmao
By your logic gear 2ed luffy > shiki?🤡
Bruh he's biased.
green bulls statment wasnt about himself or the government but the world excluding them because kaido cant stop the governments power .
" via newton's third law " when will scallers see using real life metrics on anime is dumb af
When will idiots who complain about it see no one cares and they can cry about it somewhere else 😂
Gotta see how my favorite Admiral finesses.
Ehhh, weak argument but i agree that luffy wins. When kizaru says his defense is the "best in the world" i can see that being the case, he could be like katakuri on steroids (in terms of moving his form to dodge attacks). The movie talk is kinda dumb imo, of COURSE the admirals arent gonna go all out or win in a movie lmfao. Their whole thing is not going all out anyway (which i hope changes here). I also think it's no question that kizaru is stronger than greenbull, and greenbull's showing in wano was...mixed to say the least. Kizaru was ready to pull up on kaido, bm and luffy SOLO.
I really, truly do not get the childish hyper-agenda shit when it comes to admirals/yonko stuff. Kizaru is an endgame-caliber fighter with an insane devil fruit, and i just couldnt be more excited for him to finally show of its potential, whether its against luffy or zoro/sanji. Plus he's an amazing character as well, and I'm interested to see the layers of his style of justice play out here.
Definitely can't wait to see him go all out and show us the true potential of his fruit, because alot of top tiers like kaido and luffy have already far surpassed lightspeed.
I can't wait to see what kizaru has in store...
It wasn't kizaru that said he had the best defense in the world it was sentamaru
You gotta do Akainu vs Kaido. It will be a war-zone in the comments 💀🤣
We probably gon see “Too slow” part 2 😂
One piece speed scaling gonna be dookie if that happens
@@sbthesage2100 Why would it be
Yeah luffy gonna be saying that after he knocks kizaru to the floor
I knew this wasnt going to age well lmaoo
Are you sure about that?!
He might be talking about gorosei when he says someone strong is here
Nice vid bro
no point scaling a guy that has no feats post time skip except movies which arent cannon
The movie isn't canon but you can clearly see their powers and feats are
@@madadaff2880 guess we can scale smoker to being able to clash with post time skip sanji and also able capture the weaker straw hats with minimal effort
Yeah like luffy beats shiki, you know the yonko level char. And he beats him without haki and g4 😂
"low difficulty fight" I will hold you to that haha
I like the way this guy talks 😂
Things aren't looking too good for kizaru especially considering the "Admirals holding back" trend Oda has been showing us in this arc, considering what happened to green bull and fujitora🥲
I think Oda has a specific arc when the Admirals won't be restricted any longer ...but probably won't be now.
Kizaru is going to be incredibly strong, oda has been playing around with admiral portrayal especially with greenbull specifically to shock people when they end up being Yonko level. If you think the oldest and most confident OG admiral with one of the most OP devil fruits is getting low diffed you are delusional.
Your delusional lol
@@Temujin18S maybe
Blackbeard vs Hancock was foreshadowing Luffy & straw hats vs Imu & the holy knight coming in to save imu
up until now no admirals have being defeat in a non of screen fight by any pirate. don't get me wrong i m not saying that kizaru is the same as kaido but i have many hope for the admirals. in one piece luffy have been destroyed by every one of the 3 admirals. luffy get oneshoot by aokiji before marineford. kizaru play with the crew and luffy at sabaody and luffy at marineford. we don't even have to talk about akainu.
we don't really know the full power of the admirals. i thinks it would be fair if we had a 1 v 1 luffy and kizaru.
White beard left that nigga Sakazuki paralyzed after eating 2 heart attacks a magma fist to the chest getting half his face knocked off while being 80 years old what are we taking ab lol
@@sbthesage2100 admirals haven’t showcased they’re awakening and always restrain themselves due to the terrain, we’ll see how kizaru vs luffy plays out, maybe you’re right
Also greenbull was scared of kaido, there has to be a reason kizaru wasn’t, either kizaru is just delusional and retarded or he has the power to feel comfortable going head to head with not just one but two yonko (kaido and big mom).
@@sbthesage2100lol sakazuki literally mid diff old wb. Blew half of his face and brain and tanked 2 island splitting attacks and got right back with just a nose bleed.
Lol wtf did wb gave to akainu? nosebleed? 😂. That’s all he did to akainu. He took a chunk of wb face, scar jimbei, scar luffy and literally traumatized hin and last but not the lease, he made the world’s famous ace donut 😂.
@@jeandane.6156 he didn’t mid diff shit WB was tanking his lava b4 his heart attack and bum ass Akinu gets a free shot and still dosent kill him WB then has another heart attack and still beats his ass b4 dying from illness the Akinu copers are fucking nuts also harming WB isint a feat either guns swords and cannons did the same thing ig squard is Akinu level lol
Why do all thinks that luffy will lose to kizaru. While luffy holds the most ridiculous power. Kizaru's eyes will pop out and breaks his glasses when he sees luffy catching his light projectiles and brought it all back on kizaru using body as a slingshot like luffy does with normal bullets. All of you who believes that luffy will lose will get your eyes pop out of it's socket when he beats kizaru into a pulp.
This man just brought up newton's third law lol.
Yes why is did why is that funny exactly
Or Green Bull is just a jobber.
he actually put out Newton as a reference lel
Bro thinks this Is DBZ lmaooo
I’m hoping it’s sanji zoro vs a serious kizaru bc we’ve never seen kizaru serious in the series so far
@@jojobodhow?
We literally haven't seen anything new from him.
His lightsword is pretty damn slow. His light beams are his best attacks because they are all lightspeed, and have good destructive capabilities, but even base post timeskip luffy could easily react to them and even called them "too slow".
Yes they were pacifista beams, but it was CONFIRMED like twice at this point, that they were literally made from kizaru himself.
Base kaido proceeded to blitz a way stronger, faster, and more skilled luffy WHILE HE WAS USING FUTURE SIGHT.
That already puts base kaido (or his thunder bagua atleast) WAYYY above anything kizaru has shown us.
Hybrid kaido is even stronger and faster Than that, and luffy proceeded to keep up, and even outspeed him in gear 4 snakeman and gear 5. Luffy is mopping the floor with kizaru.
Now for zoro and sanji, it's more debatable, sanji is straight up faster than kizaru (no debate, sanji blitzed queen to the point queen though sanji went invisible, and literally couldn't do shit against sanji, who was still having an existential crisis) the same queen (who was in hybrid form btw, which is a zoan's strongest form) could easily atleast PERCEIVE king and marco in base, marco who could keep up a bit with kizaru (at the very least he could see his attacks).
Zoro with all broken bones from trying to redirect that double yonko attack, stalled kaido for a bit, and even got a hit in, (now this could just be kaido tryna see what zoro can do, but its still impressive that he could clash with kaido, and even kinda outspeed him with ashura). Zoro legit has feats comparable to base Ryo luffy, who could keep up with kaido, which again, literally puts him above kizaru (in speed atleast) in everything that he's shown.
Kizaru seriously needs to pull out some insane bullshit if he wants to even give luffy a challenge. (Now zoro and sanji can move pretty damn fast, but kizaru is better in his pure attack speed, because literally everything he pulls out is lightspeed, except his stupid light sword, which just nerfs him for no reason, but everything else is lightspeed) and sanji and zoro can't really just keep attacking at lightspeed or beyond, sanji still needs that tiny bit of time to let out a kick, and same for zoro slashing.
But I guess we'll have to wait and see, speed isn't always the only important factor in a fight.
Also for all we know, it could be that luffy is talking about Saturn and not kizaru, we're not too sure (logically I think it should be kizaru but we'll see)...
@@jojobod you say that based on what?
@jojobod correction, its the wings of the future pirate king vs an admiral, one of whom is the future wss
@jojobod right now they are above yc1 and yc2 respectively
@@jojobod😭💯
YESSSS
light is the greatest enemy of rubber.. like lighting to rubber
Kizaru is surely stronger than greenbull, and no admiral will go down easily no matter the enemy
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That's just not how Oda writes bruh
Bro got blocked by sentomaru who lost to Lucci and then Luffy beat that Lucci its not close.
For all we know kizaru could have laid sentomaru out and started transporting where Luffy was lol
Lucci blocked g5 in a clash, but doesn’t mean sht. Like marco blocked kaidos attack.
B-b-but he was scared 🤓☝️
That's the natural consequence of Yonko wanking.
We don't know Luffys real Sun God Power only what luffy learned which means we haven't seen Luffy Sun god Nika Joy boy at his full Power
How do you even know how strong is kizaru? We never seen him serious.
And we never seen admiral vs yonko.
Not sure your logic makes any sense.
How can you say marco rivaled kizaru ?? This is crazy
Bro even though he is not serious he did not hold back against some stupid low grade pirate when he came to saboady arcpaligo .he didn't even take down any Whitebeard Commander and was struggling to defeat a handcuffs Marco in Marinford war
Well I am not saying kizaru is weak even though I'm not that convinced on his theory too much I might think kizaru can give luffy a troublesome fight but defeating him will just make power scaling a little bit confusing
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@@jojobod🤓
Zoro vs Kizaru is what we need
It’s what we shall receive!!
*Sanji
Lol the strawhats need to win tho 😂 😂 ain’t no time for a life n death extreme diff for zoro this arc
Rip zoro
still not close
Luffy won't have an easy time fighting Kizaru, not with the nerf he's going to receive from the biggest Admiral apologiser himself, Oda sensei
A lot of content creators are not gonna be posting powerscaling videos until the end of egghead after next chapter.
Which is smarter this dude should of waited he’s trying to scale luffy someone we’ve seen go all out to kizuru someone we haven’t seen try he has to use other admirals and what they’ve done to make a case as to why kizuru is losing
Let's see if this will age or not
It won't 😅
I totally agree with this. But plot might buff kizaru 😂
What I’m scared of tbh kizaru 2 v 1ing kaido in big mom is keeping me awake rn lol
Clearly yonko where hyped to all hell and you guys bought it, clear your bias and headcanon then you’ll enjoy the story. Admirals where never weak, ever!!
@@sbthesage2100 😂😂😂
@@sbthesage2100I mean we all saw jack say he could 2v1 sengoku and tsuru but then we all know how that ended
@@Mosaic-xeroxbut he still loses tho
Sanji vs Kizaru needs to happen soon
Right like how they gonna tease it in an opening and not give it to us
I love sanji but he’s getting neg diffed
@@gangmotherfuckinggang4118 Currently he’s a lot more powerful so we don’t know what would happen
@@sonofthechosenone4335it’s an admiral THERES no way a commander/left hand man can defeat an admiral
@@sonofthechosenone4335 maybe zoro and sanji can team to take him out. But sanji is not doing anything to kizaru. Admirals are above yonko commanders
Why he call that man Hoezaru😂😂😂
A God vs A Weed Smoker
Wait till bro finds out what power creep is 💀
One Piece never had Power Creep though.
scaling a character based on a combination atk is a new stretch...
Everyone should fear getting in Luffys way honestly after taking down Kaido
The cope is crazy, if luffy could do all of this he wouldn't be terrified of kizaru. We have never seen kizaru fight and we'll see that in 1091. Liffy Is gonna take a fat L
W😂.
Although I don't think there'll be 2nd Sabaody.
But I'd be more than happy if Kizaru gives the straw hats a fking terrifying fight.
Terrified? Luffy is terrified of nobody! He already faced the admirals in marineford. G5 luffy dogwalks kizaru.
@@Fallen-Emperor read the chapter and look at his face. That boy is shooketh
🤣🤣yea no
@@Fallen-EmperorThe Japanese Kanji that is shown next to Luffy’s terrified face literally means “scared/terrified.” So yeah Luffy is fucking Shook to death.
There is a big chance that this video will age like milk 😅
pizzaru
Yeah that character note isn't the evidence you think it is to use non a Canon movie
bro shouting and back to normal voice wtf HAHAHA
Just letting y’all know we have yet to see kizaru get serious yet until now
pizzaru
Yeah no all the admirals are not gonna be relative this is some 2015 logic bigmom and kaido are not relative that been shown kizaru hasn’t even gone all out so I don’t know why your talking like this factual kizaru will show out
bro ez win for luffy wth are u talking about
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💀Bro said Kizaru = lucci delete your vid bro and remake it without being biased
When did I ever say kizaru was equal to lucci I just said the fight would look a lot gear 5 Luffy vs luci cause he was clowning on luci what a moron 😂
Kaido was the strongest being in the world and Gear 5 Luffy whooped his ass, kaido also had supreme kings haki which kizaru doesn’t have so a Gear 5 Luffy using advanced supreme kings haki and His new Ruyo technique with advanced observation haki and literally the ability to do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING HE THINKS OF AND TURNS ANYTHING INTO RUBBER Kizaru is gonna get folded like a sheet of paper Luffy will easily catch his light attacks see everything he’s doing and will turn him into a joke like he did to kaido when he was using gear 5.
Honestly anyone who think kizaru will beat Luffy means that they think kizaru is stronger than kaido which he’s definitely not so if Luffy can stomp kaido who kept adapting to the fight then he’s gonna have no problem with kizaru just like how he used gear 5 on lucci and folded him in a panel and a half he whooped Robs ass lol.
If Oda makes kizaru win then he’s definitely messed up the scaling of power because if kizaru is that much stronger than kaido then they wouldn’t have been freaking out so much when big mom and kaido became Allies.
The only reason Oda would make kizaru keep up with Luffy is to make the scaling even which is really dumb the whole point of Luffy getting gear 5 and mastering his haki and Ruyo was to be stronger than previous characters like kizaru.
I’m just saying as huge One piece fans and Dragonball fans my wife and I have been watching OP and DBZ since we were kids in the 90s when it first aired and I’ll tell you there’s no way he lets kizaru beat gear 5 Luffy especially since they hyped how it’s the most ridiculous and powerful fruit in the world and no other fruit can match it if Oda makes kizaru on that level then that’s poor writing and very predictable.
Just remember Kaido was the strongest being on earth way stronger than any marines that’s why they freaked out about kaido and big mom if the marines were stronger they wouldn’t worry and since Luffy took down kaido and had mastered his haki and awakened the most powerful DF in existence technically Luffy is now the strongest being on earth.
Just saying this just our opinions take it how you want everyone has there own views lol
I think the crew will beat kizaru let’s be honest this whole set up it’s reflecting sanbody and they got decimated there. It was to show how much more the straw hat’s needed to advance, now it seems like a reflection of that but this time it will be the straw hats taking the W. It’s a epic comparison with the outcome showing the advances the crew has made. If he losses it losses all meaning in the emperor name sake he won’t be a threat and will be lazy writing to do sanbody 2.0
the cope is strong on this one, can't wait to drink your tears next scan
@@bruxelles321the cope is strong? Nah your brain is weak
@@bruxelles321no need to drink his tears when he’ll be laughing on how dumb you look when luffy out scales kizaru
Fans sleeping on kizaru.
Plus this video is just soo bad cap 100%
God I hate people who power scale
This video is going to age like Milk
I think we might see kizaru be serious for once since sentamaru just got fodderize by lucci and they seem to have a nephew uncle relationship
Calling Fujitora relative to kizaru is generally the biggest overstatement known to man he’s nowhere near as powerful, even struggling against doffy no, I think of other statements kizaru does have a chance to win or be at least a good match
But honestly, the big point is that we need more feats he could genuinely be one of the strongest characters we just don’t know
As a character with an OP ability that almost takes the top
He never struggled against Doffy what kinda horse shit is this lol Fujitora literally tells Doffy he’d kill him
Also why are you just supposing kizaru is stronger with literally 0 evidence
@@sbthesage2100 that’s the thing we literally have 0 feats other than speculation just like the Yonkos it was stated that the admirals do have a similar level of power yet every admiral shouldn’t be equal, considering that there’s definitely a yonko hierarchy that literally for instance, including the help of the other Blackbeard pirates aokiji was able to take out Garp, seemingly, of course the man who rival the pirate king at his peak sure he’s not a strong, but that’s an impressive feat, considering that kizaru also was definitely beating Rayleigh in his fight on Sabaody which has been looked at by multiple people to be the case admirals by themselves don’t have enough feats only statements Beckman was even shown at marine Ford to be sweating. Even after he was held at gunpoint. He just flies up and starts blasting, which shows obviously he was trying to hold back for the most part.
I assumed Luffy was scared because he was sensing Jay Garcia somewhere. But, him worrying about his crew is also credible to some extent. He still has Zoro and Sanji there, so I doubt he'd be too worried considering they were chilling when GB pulled up to Wano, and Luffy wasn't even concerned about Momo's safety, who's weaker than just about every Strawhat aside from maybe Usopp
Momo dogs sanji and below lol
@@sbthesage2100Sanji literally blitzes Momo what are you on?
@@thegreaterconsciousness5997don’t take this guy seriously he thinks the fight won’t be close based off what greenbull and fuji has done
@@rimurutempest4940 Luffy ain’t scared of Kizaru so keep coping
Bro go read the fucking chapter Luffy sensed kizaru goofy it doesn’t take critical thinking to see and understand that on pages and dialogue. Stop reading 1001 fragments and read one piece
also kiazru vs shanks was the same as ben vs kizaru and is simply him being not serious and going all out and luffy being worried for his crew because of kizaru is nonsense if he can beat him, luffy just brought his crew to a island with two yonkos on it.
So
What's your point?
Then explain why luffy could give less of a shit when he was facing 3 ADMIRALS not just kizaru himself. Or when he sensed fujitora's strength, he said that this old man is pretty strong or something like that, luffy was pretty much fodder at that point, and fujitora should be comparable to the other admirals.
Based on feats and scaling, luffy absolutely mops the floor with kizaru.
My theory is that it was Saturn who luffy was talking about, not kizaru, or maybe it was kizaru and its either oda is making it all intense and suspenseful because it's literally the last page of the chapter and everyone will stay wondering what'll happen next. Or that luffy is just chilling tryna get on his damn boat all willy-nilly, until he senses A GODDAMN ADMIRAL coming their way lmao. For big mom and kaido, atleats he was focused on kinemon and the other scabbards laying on the floor.
Also this whole "he looks so worried that "kizaru" is coming, that means he's stronger" or whatever the hell poeple are tryna say, is flawed as hell.
Like, are we saying that kizaru is stronger than both big mom and kaido at the same time??
@@otto3944bro us coping hard.
Lmao except kizaru woukdnt do that if shanks and Ben weren’t a threat to him and B4 you mention kizaru still moving after this Ben literally wasn’t paying attention bc Aokiji causes a distraction pls read one piece dog it’s literally stated the admirals fear Bens power and it’s reiterated in a statement from film red we also literally see Bozaru sweating from simple conquers Haki
@@sbthesage2100Wanna know something funny too? WhiteBeard and Sengoku were sweating from Luffy’s Conquerors Haki in Marineford in Chapter 569 as well. So by your logic Pre-TimeSkip Luffy > WB and Sengoku, right? Also Ben wasn’t distracted by Aokiji by any means, it didn’t show such a thing in the Manga. 😂 Ben did fuck all against Kizaru, and that’s a contradiction to Shanks’ power level if the scan you’re referring to implies that the Admirals fear Ben’s Power since the Admirals weren’t even scared of Shanks when they saw him in Marineford. Does that mean Ben > Shanks? See what I mean? It makes no sense for them to fear Ben but not Shanks lmao. Also I’m using Manga btw, not filler scenes from The Trash Anime Adaptation.
Payback time for Sabaody, Kizaru!!!!!
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my issue is they just had kid and law get floored despite the deafeat of a emperor and awakening devil fruits. Luffy might suffer a similar fate.
Their defeats were showing the power of yonkos since blackbeard and shanks won and luffy now being a yonko i think he is going to also take the W
Luffy weakness is his timelimit using gear 5 Kizaru can easilly ploy that weakness by trolling him an staying out reach attacking his allies cloning himself vise versa....Heck Luffy alredy lose again he ran outta time again smh 😂
It will be close you just an admiral hater
also momo only hurt green bull becuase its fire vs a grass type and not power levels. mom is weaker then all the worst generation and kiazru would one hit them with kick like he did in the past
You admiral meat riders are brain dead 😂
How is Big mom weaker than the worst generation?
It literally took two people above Zoro to awaken their devil fruits before they could even barely push her off balance into lava
These two people in their base are stronger than katakuri
Who Luffy who was stronger than all the worst generation that was taken down by kizaru had just managed to win against
So big mom scales over kizaru
Why is this the case momo literally puts a hole in green bull before burning him and he literally resisted a fire attack b4 this what the hell 😂 bolo breath is just powerful bro
@@sbthesage2100 Momo also had Kaido screaming. At least Green Bull got a named attack.
Hoe-zaru💀 and this was at 1:36
Y'all about to get mega shocked
Kizaru about to get mega rocked
People underestimating kizaru we never seen that mf serious before yet
Movie is not canon
damn all this just for all the og admirals to be stronger than prime garp and sengoku
Wtf are you smoking 😂
@@sbthesage2100 you will see this agenda soon boy!
Mob vs luffy?
Luffy wins extreme diff not low WAKE UP TO REALITY
But like why u lying thp💀
0:38 he was gonna kill Momonosuke…
Lol. Prepare to be disappointed.
Stopped listening after u used film red movie scaling. But I’ll be back when sanji and zoro don’t do shit to Kizaru
ok hear me out im no fan of admiral why are they deeply underestimated?? in pirate we have emperors and those 3 admirals were the emperor in marines (get what im trying to say?) there's no way they will be that weak
we tend to forget that aokiji is matching up with prime garp and who did aokiji lose to? akainu right? and kizaru don't have any interest on being the head thats why he didn't bother to join so just basing that aokiji lose to akainu means he a monster too so i hope we can enjoy this moment and stop looking down on them even tho they hate pirates and want to arrest them all we know that they are not stupid enough to just start a war for that reason
Akainu > kaido
How do you feel being wrong all the time
Wrong ab what tho lol
@@sbthesage2100 the scaling and outcomes
@@obamawasreal0264 not really we didn’t see Luffy fighting kizaru at all then we saw gear 4 Luffy deflecting his attacks then he gets kicked at accelerated speed after being blinded which we can’t really quantify and then we see gear 5 Luffy messing around and seemingly one shoting or severely injuring kizaru like he did lucci which was the prediction
@@sbthesage2100 which is objectively wrong and it's kizaru who was blocking it and kizaru wasn't even visibly hurt by the attack and your saying that momonosuke was over greenbull and kizaru is equal is extremely comedic
pizzaru
Is the chapter out?
Lmaooo he said gear 5th would low diff kizaru and base luffy would high diff kizaru. Omg at least admit you underestimated kizaru
Bro is coping hard.