People who think that the yonkou would lose because the nature of their characters would lead to them fighting each other rather than the kage don’t realize that the power output from just being near their battle would most likely take out the 5 kage by accident
Big mom alone has multiple attacks that can damage all the kage at the same time. If she uses her Indra: God of Lightning attack then is a wrap for the kage. They can't dodge it because it's lightning bolts that have a soul, which tracks you because it is literally alive.
It’s crazy to think that the haki clash between Kaido and Luffy was pretty casual. It wasn’t a big named attack at the end of the fight. It was just another casual clash between them
@@Sage-2002 Thats not really what he meant... he's saying, the clash luffy and kaido did to completely blow away the insane amount of clouds in the sky in seconds was just a single clash. It wasn't a clash where both of them went full strength on. Luffy just learned advanvced conquerers at that time, it was heavily in its early stage. We know as the fight continued, Luffy improved his conquerers haki. We even hear from luffy later in the fight when kaido went drunk, his haki power increased. Then moments after kaido powers up again and powers up again later in the fight. So the main thing is that, that clash that blew away the clouds like it was nothing, was not kaido not even close to using full power, also that attack was a basic attack. It wasn't an attack kaido named. If that attack was ragnarok, then we can say that kaido did put quite an effort into that attack. But no it was just a plain old swing that wasnt even close to full power.
@@Tanpopo2013 I agree with you, he didn't reply because he realized you're right but will still preach the ''whitebeard wasn't planetary'' nonsense. Some of these RUclipsrs are really corny. If a casual clash is considered to be continental what about a full power swing from Kaido's Hasakai? And also in the canon story, prime Chinjao was shown both in the manga and anime to be able to split the ice continent in half with a single hit, and was one shotted by Garp with a no named attack. And Chinjao isn't even in the top tier sphere of the One Piece world, in fact he's far from that given that he wasn't shown to display any form of advance Haki and doesn't posses any top tier or haxed devil fruit. Long story short, if a mid tier character in terms of power level like Chinjao has enough Attack Potency to perform a continental level feat, what about top tiers like Kaido, Garp, Whiteboard, Roger, Shanks etc. Their AP must be much higher so it isn't far fetched to think they could be planetary in terms of AP. Most people just don't know the difference between Attack Potency and Destructive Capacity.
@@kevintoukam7466don't forget pretimeskip BBs moon lvl Calc with the uncontrolled power of the Gura Gura along with whitebeards causal multi-continental Calc during marineford, the AP of the yonko was severely downplayed, even if u don't believe that their planetary they bare minimum have multi-continental AP scaling
Every time the sengoku argument is brought up. I always imagine he meant that Whitebeard can destroy the world not in the sense of blowing it up, but rather causing multiple tsunamis and tremors that would destroy all life. He can split the sea, so imagine he used all his power in his prime, he could possibly just cause multiple huge tsunamis across the world and drown everyone. Except fishmen and skypiens
Nope with white beards will/haki strengthening his devil fruit wb can actually destroy the world he just doesn't do that because why would he? And also he has he's crew beside him they might get hurt.
@@RohnBurgess if I remember correctly. An assistant of oda said something along the lines like, in his prime and not Ill. With full mastery of the fruit. Whitebeard can crush the world like a grape. This is what I heard in the comments unless I was misinformed.
Big Mom could also counter Mei's water release by turning it into a homie, as she was shown creating a tidal wave homie that was completely under her control.
Bruh 💀 Turn an Chakra attack into Homie mid Air ? Did big mom turn Kid and Law's attacks into Homie ? Why didn't big mom just turn Kid's Metal Attacks into Homies ? Don't be stupid. A Chakra attack most of all🤦
@@KareemLaLa10 She didn’t turn Kid’s attacks into homies because she was cocky. And the one time she tried absorbing life energy in that fight Law muted her. Don’t be an ass because the kage can’t win this
@@megabladechronicles962 what ? She wasn't cocky when she was gonna die. She couldn't. That's it. And She can't turn Energy like Haki or Chakra to Homie either. She can't take Life energy from people who are afraid of her. Kage wasn't Afraid to Fight Madara. Big mom is a laughstock. Kage Wins ez
@@KareemLaLa10 what are you talking about? When chakra creates an element it doesn’t stay chakra it becomes whatever element the user wants it to be. Also I didn’t say Big Mom was stealing energy from Kid and Law she tried stealing from their crew mates and even if she can’t steal from people not afraid of her she can use her own life energy to make homies, that’s how she made Zeus, Prometheus, Hera, and Napoleon. And Big Mom was absolutely cocky, she didn’t think Kid or Law could hurt her, she only panicked after Kid blasted her through the floor towards the ocean. Rewatch the fight because you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
One thing about Whitebeard's power to destroy the world statement is that we forget that the One Piece world is a lot bigger than OUR world. But people keep calcing it to ONLY the power to destroy a planet the size of OUR world. When Sengoku said that Whitebeard has the power to destroy the world, he was talking about his OWN world, not ours. According to a youtuber named DcDoesPhysics, the One Piece world is 37 times bigger than Earth, and the Naruto world is 6 times bigger than Earth. So even Kurama's ACTUAL planetary statement calcs should be higher too.
He should've added more on big mom like her 3 main helpers Napoleon, Prometheus,Zeus/Helga,the fuze version 3000 leagues of misery and the fact she can consume the souls to increase her size,and repair broken limbs
Even some decently read One Piece fans still sleep on Big Mom they puropsely downplay her in the anime sometimes too so I guess it's to be expected. But a clip of God of Lightning Tenjin would have illustrated the point of her powers more clearly.
A simple logic i can put on here is madara almost soloing the 5 kage by a single mountain level slash, and the four yonkous are literally continental level through scaling as one piece world is much much much bigger than any normal earth
@@dechrysoph5298 it's an unfortunate truth that the yonko are just power houses like, why do u think the gov used all there resources to combat 1 yonko
not to mention garp to warm up was using mountains as punching bags and destroying them. not even fighting, mans was warming up lol. naruto characters have to use their strongest attacks to make a dent in a mountain.
The yonko wipe insanely hard, good video but I do think the scaling for both of their speeds and one pieces AP/durability wasn’t great since even pre time skip Blackbeard and Luffy are multi continental and Luffy can easily be scaled to mftl+ or higher while for Naruto most of the speed feats get contradicted by the statements being bad or them just blatantly getting retconned by later feats in the show
Whenever anyone in any fiction says someone can destroy "the world" I always take it as them being able to surface wipe the planet, or at least destroy multiple contingents. It is not until someone says planet that I interpret is as that. Besides in some fictions the world is way smaller, or the world that humans occupy and usually when they say the world they just mean where people are.
@@LoudYapperyeah that’s true, but if anything the world of one piece would be larger, like literally everything else in one piece rather than abnormally small. But yea whitebeard fsho not planetary
Kaido would be able to 1v5 the kage none of them have shown anything to allow me to believe that they would be able to overcome kaido. He's a walking tank with high dps and unimaginable speed
Bro, Kaido is not beating all 5 Kage. This man is not tanking a Particle Beam from Onoki. He will be disintegrated in a split second trying to tank something he do not understand. Brute Force can’t always win battles 😑😒. Naruto characters don’t rely on brute force fights when they can use a jutsu that can instantly kill their opponent. Kaido looking for a good fight. Ninjas in the Narutoverse is looking for blood.
@@whitelotus4703 The Kage where ultimately too weak to beat Edo Madara because none of them could match the power he could unleash with perfect susanoo. He literally toyed with them. Even if you don’t think Kaidou’s as strong as Edo Madara, he’s not going to have trouble with the 5 kage.
@@getpape4126madara would get clapped by kizaru & Akainu alone, his attacks would be ineffective as well as his genjitsu since they both can clear out with OHaki
The speed of the yonko in this video was severely underrated, gaaras sand is not outspeeding any of them, zoro has a lightspeed or relatavistic minimum(depending what scaling you go with) feat on thriller bark(dodging kumas ls attack point blank while injured) and luffy was at least equal to him, and then the canon 3d2y movie makes the timeskip a 100x increase to luffys physical stats, plus luffy eclipsing his gear 4 form(15x mult) in base arc after arc dressrosa g4
Right bro really underscaled the yonko way too far they’re easily planetary with MFTL speeds, with hax that can deal with regular & enhanced elements Bigmom alone would fodderslam them
@@DanVerbatim what he’s laying out has fallacy’s lmao so why would ranting uninterrupted automatically make you correct ? You’d think if he was so good at explaining scaling he’d have his own channel lmao
Though usually in shonen it wouldn’t matter, I would say the size difference between normal sized humans and the Four Emperors is definitely something to consider
@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg no but also they're used to abnormally large people. Besides the tailed beasts who in the Naruto world is 7ft+? Just straight punches from Whitebeard, Big Mom or Kaido would hit literally like a truck to the kages
@@radexyz-fx8ix not really considering the yonko lost. If there’s dialogue stating that these large opponents are difficult to fight then I’ll believe it. But it’s literally just cosmetic and has no influence on the fight
@@radexyz-fx8ix not really considering the yonko lost. If there’s dialogue stating that these large opponents are difficult to fight then I’ll believe it. But it’s literally just cosmetic and has no influence on the fight
Just to clarify big mom can deff keep up with kaido as well it’s just that kaido sees her as a sister and could never truly fight her to death like he could shanks and whitebeard
@Nightshadow3_7the things is Big Mom is almost as strong as Kaido I'd say but IDK WHY but she didn't use conquerors coating against law and kid. But if she did then law and kid would have NO CHANCE against her.
@@alain_kunishe can’t use it, in terms of strength she’s close to kaido but their haki is completely different kaido is superior in haki and haki surpasses all
She used it on Page One hush up@@bluebandit9715 Big Mom sees Kaido as her little brother she NEVER took Law and Kid seriously even directly after the Puncture Willie when Kid was charging his Rail Gun she said "Take your best Shot!! I am *BIG MOM* !!!" She also already had them beaten but their crews kept crying and begging for mercy and she wanted to check on Kaido so she didn't finish them off right there.
Oda never talks about planetary white beard lol and the Ace novel has the same statment which is he can destroy the world and o already explained why this dosent mean planet cope
It’s literally all the exact same context. Just becaue it’s reiterated more times doesn’t change its initial meaning. Alos by this logic kuramas biju bomb is planet level. He has 3 statements for this.
@@Sage-2002have u ever watched one peice or ever learned geography in class Whitebeard litrally Grabs our dimension and tilts the tectonic plates which cause earthquake. Dumbhead Your name is based on sage I knew this Channel is completely biased towards Naruto.
3:26 It was never confirmed that Shanks actually defeated Kaido in duel. All we know is that there was a "scuffle" and he stopped Kaido from going to Marineford. He might have: - convinced him not to go - tricked him (gotten him drunk, lured him elsewhere, etc) - jumped him with his crew (I find it pretty unlikely though). I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that when they met, Kaido only had King with him, so it was Shanks's whole crew that confronted Kaido and King. It's unlikely Shanks would have shown up in Marineford unscathed if he had fought Kaido 1v1 seriously.
Nah, I think it was confirmed I can’t remember where exactly I saw but it was officially said by someone in the manga or a pre novel that oda did, so I think that is confirmed, it makes sense tho, shanks by the looks of it seems pretty op at the moment and never thought I’ll see something more op than kaido.
@@andysosolgonzalez3136 until proof is provided, I'm gonna consider it cap. If it were true, I think Shanks fanboys would have made sure everybody knew it. lol I don't agree that it makes sense. As I said Shanks showing up unscathed in Marineford after a serious, fair 1v1 fight against Kaido looks surreal. Even if we admit Shanks to be stronger than him (which is doubtful), it can't be by that much. The yonkou were portrayed as relative to each other in strength and power, and Kaido was persistently portrayed as being HIM, said to be the strongest creature in the world. After he took control of Wano, I don't think he ever lost a fight until Luffy showed up. Shanks seems pretty op at the moment but notice how that's after Kaido is out of the equation. A lot of people have started flexing after Kaido's fall. Greenbull showed up on Wano, confident that he could take on whoever was left on Wano...because he knew, anyone left would be either injured or far weaker than Kaido and Big Mom, so he assumed he could take them all by himself. As for Shanks, his hype built up against people who would have been destroyed by Kaido 1v1: Greenbull, Kidd... His move to get the One Piece comes after Big Mom and Kaido have fallen. Probably because the yonkou were at a standstill in terms of getting each other's poneglyphs. If he could just casually beat Kaido, all of the above wouldn't make sense.
One thing I'm going to note is the statement with WB being able to destroy the world is factual seeing as it wasn't only said in the manga but in a SBS and it makes sense because he can just put a earthquake around a the world and crumble it its the same thing with Fujitora with his fruit he can summon a meteor large enough to destroy the world
@@animoments8969not really. im from chile so i have a lot of experience with that, and if an earthquake happens in a place where 2 tectonic plates meet, it could lead to an amazing level of destruction. we have a place called falla de san ramon and is foresaw to it be destroyed or, at least, take a big damage if an earthquake starts close to it. and is not an if, but a when. so, if shirohige uses his fruit to it maximum power, it could lead to a chain reaction in the tectonic plates in the world and the destruction of the planet
@@ignacioperez5479 you guys confuse world with planet.destruction of a planet is some dbz type of shit where a planet completely blows up shockwaves and meteors cant do that. also whitebeard doesnt control technotic plates he generates shockwaves himself. world means anything above the earths surface but if you really wanna stretch it then anythything above the sea level.detroying the world could also mean that whitebeard will cause all life to be extinct.even if volcanoes change the entire landscape and cause life to be extinct only the surface is affected which isnt even 1% of the earths volume
@@animoments8969 an earth quake caused a big town to sink underwater in my country, theres a place where you can still see the top of a big church of said town and near the town theres a graveyard honoring those who died, it took a small earthquake to cause that much destruction, dont understimate them
Its never Meant to be takens as literally and debunk by databook itself And WB's earthquake was never shown or stated to be felt all across the world + even shaking a sun is only large country level feat and fujitoro meteor is also calc to be at large country Nither of this even come close for WB to be able to destory OP planet
What no, haki just negate elemental intangibility who uses logia df to become sand, ice, fire, light etc. But gaara sand is just sand no a person who is sand.
@@Tabasco017 ok you obviously dont know what ADVANCED armament haki is, I don't blame you for that as SB barely mentioned it in 8:45 ish. Advanced armament allows the damage from the yonko's attacks to flow trough matter and ignore outer layers of durability like Kaido's extremely though skin to directly damage your opponents insides
Ah yes sengoku would gas up his enemy when he has had enouters with him in the past and would scare his men in process the one piece world is a planet and a large planet at that give whitebeard his props
Why when hes not referring to the planet I use to think the same thing just bc sengoku has seen white beard fight dosent mean he thinks white beard can one shot the planet that’s ab association fallacy
@sbthesage2100 we don't mean wb gonna turn into a dB character and blow up the planet with his df he can cause a natural disaster so powerful it could destroy the world
@@Sage-2002 whitebeards df hass the most dc in the whole verse and was stated to be able to destroy the world, that was an old sick whitebeard who was clearly holding back, do i really have to bring up prime whitebeard? He can easily destroy the whole planet
Chakra users can get out of it. That easy. Only reason One piece characters couldn't exit it is, because they doesn't have any counter to illusion, while Naruto characters does have counter tp those kinds of things.
@@ThashneemUta's realms is not an illusion lol, it's like an instant dimension like Kaguya while Kaguya has full control, Uta does not have full control, and there's this monster in her realm called Tot musica which can solo the 5 kages No diff.
People mistake power levels with explosions a lot which is dumb Cause by that logic pell is emperor level for tanking a nuke directly while the fifth hokage is lower than pell cause she was knocked out by a All mighty push which is equalivalent to the pell nuke it's funny how dumb people are like pell would be surviving biju bombs left and right while the rest of the Naruto verse be quaking in their boot's, Nobody dies to explosions except secondary character anyone else be like tis but a scratch XD
@@binary7507 Lol one piece fangirl Naruto at the end of the series absolutely claps one piece verse without breaking a sweat. And yes I’ve seen both shows
Considering, that the yonko are pretty much the strongest in their world and the kage aren‘t even close to getting compared to top tiers from naruto, it is kind of obvious that the yonko would wipe them, even wb alone would take all five of them i guess.
@@GolDJewelzwell, naruto, sasuke, kakashi, obito, madara,bee, guy, orochimaru, kabuto and of course those who have been reanimated such as pain, itachi, the old hokage and i probably haven‘t mentioned all of them. So there is a tremendous amount of people who are way way stronger than the 5 kage..
@@gee4911 exaggerating, but i said team 7. your high if you think bee, kabuto and orochimaru could beat them. and i mean i wasnt really talking about dead characters as there are alot of people who could be reanimated and beat them. i mean with just their own powers. pain wouldnt win, not too sure about itachi tho. and obv the otsutsukis.
@@gee4911 and the yonkos were the strongest at the time but one piece isnt done yet so they will most def get way stronger than where they are now. (the new yonkos i mean except buggy.)
@@GolDJewelzwell they wouldnt win in a fight against all of them, but they would definitely beat them individually. Pain could probably take on all 5 of them but that would be a incredibly difficult fight with an open ending. And all of the people i mentioned, would beat them, even if they were still alive (btw obviously not all 5 of them at the same time). The Yonkos are (Spoiler! Besides the admirals and the holy knights as well as the elders and dragon) probably the strongest in one piece, thats right. But Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Hashirama, Kakashi with 2 sharingan and might guy, wouldnt have any problem to take on 2 or 3 of them at the same time…
@@randompoorlydrawndragon3076😂😂😅 it is special. Kaido mentioned that Roger conquered the sea with only Haki. It is the most broken power which yet to explore. Remember shanks is a strongest with only Haki.
@@samar9614 I meant that ryou/haki isn't special enough where people from other universes or something can't touch logia users because they don't know/don't have haki But yes, ryou/haki is overpowered
Remember, Ryou (advanced armament) is actual dura neg. And I’m pretty sure all the classic yonko can use it, so all of them have access to at least 1 form of dura neg.
11:25 the issue here is that is confirmed Haku could move at light speed and the gap between the speed of light and the speed of lightning is great enough for Haku to perform that feat even if Kakashi has gotten faster.
@@elzyofficial9087 are you really saying there’s no gap between the speed of light and the speed of lightning? Are you saying that acknowledging difference in speed is fallacy?
Bruh it was never stated that shanks defeated kaido a scuffle is a short fight of sorts or a minor exchange and if you think shanks low diffed kaido which is the only case if he did defeat kaido and king then how is it the rest of the crew and shanks showed up with no wounds whatsoever unless shanks scales way higher than kaido if he’s able to low diff him and receive no visible injuries
A scuffle is all they need to know that shanks could potentially beat him in a fight, which kaido states is true. He probably retreated once they realized shanks can turn off their observation haki
0:55 I think what he ment was the world being all the island. A huge part of what makes whitebeard's power terrifying is the fact that in a world which is majority sea and comprises of several island his power can make tremors to the scale that can cause huge Tsunami and manipulate huge land masses. Such kind of power can indeed destroy the world. However slow it may be.
It’s funny that any of the emperors can just look at the grand ninja alliance and knock out 50-100k of them instantly with conquerors. Madara can’t even do that
do you wanna know how easy it is to see that you are wrong? them not getting knocked out by a Yonkos CoC would make them serious opponents for Yonko and those "Skilled Ninja" are just fodder as much as any other background character@lucifer61479
@lucifer61479doesn't matter if you're strong, if your will is weaker than any conquerors user then you are cooked. Lol, they shitted their pants when Madara dropped a meteor and they completely lost their ground and stature. Seeing a 3 miles dragon that can easily wipe out the entire sky they would shit their pants harder.
an op character who can knock out 50k characters in his verse doesn't mean he can also knock out 50k in a different verse. the verse and the cosmology of NAruto in general is wayyy higher than op verse. if Madara can't do that its cuz he doesn't have pression power like CoC or spiritual pressure.
Nothing to do with the video, but i believe that, when sengoku stated that whitebeard could destroy the world, it was referring to the political and society world of one piece. And im think its in a serious way. He could destroy the red line, bringing all the ocean together and destroy the world goverment by doing so.
Cool vid, just fyi at 3:29 Shanks was never said to have defeated Kaido. He only got into an alteraction with/ but never shown to actually fight. The fact that he came to marineford unscathed backs this up.
If we analyze all angles the four emperors are always in top if the four are together their are few forces in naruto could stop them maybe no only one emperor could crush all five kages but it is not easy for one emperor to crush the kages four emperors vs five kage is very easy to predict because one emperor is an a force to be feared if four is in the fight there is nothing the five kages could do i'm not understimating the five kages but the favor is to the emperors.
Considering that it was confirmed in manga that whitebeard said that the op planet has 1million islands. we can come to the estimate that the planet is about the size of Jupiter or larger. Shanks and mihawks duels shook the red line which is a continent that goes around the entire planet. Whitebeard had a fight with someone and his power caused tsunami's across the planet. Luffys bajrang gun created shockwaves that expanded for 1000 miles. These are well beyond planetary lvl feats considering how large the op planet is with 1 million islands not counting continents.
Was it confirmed how big the islands were? Because that wouldn't correlate to the size of Jupiter when you think about the Philippines and there islands in total which are in the thousands also but when you look at the 🌎 map it is a tiny place in compared to somewhere like the 🇺🇸 . I mean if he's saying the smallest are like the island where the guy thats stuck in a box is at then thats still not going to add up to Jupiter size, but if the majority are like alabasta size then it might come out bigger then our earth
@@binary7507 again, it needs to be stated or its an assumption. even if narrative consistencyes support such, it needs to be stated or youll highball for no reason. as to planet size, doesnt change feats. a country level feat is still a country level feat. There is tiers in vsbw for a reason, read them.
The raikage is MFTL or Massively faster then light. Just his normal self is faster then light or FTL. But, when the lightweight boulder jutsu is done on him he is even more faster. Putting him at MFTL.
I like how everyone say that he is light speed because of the statement, but yet never read the full statement. The statement says that he moves ALMOST the speed of light. So with the lightweight jutsu how do you know he is massively faster than light. Smh
@@akadenanderson3283 Lol shit the statement says even less than that. Literally say "Speed like light" or "Light like speed" It's not a blatant light speed statement. You know how translations are. It's the equivalent to "Like a flash of Light". "Almost light speed" would make it relativistic.
@@kiraa454 I don't think that's the original text but I could go over it. Even still, ive seen that scan as well and it only makes it less credible if so.
I think the anime community has terrible scaling metrics, because we just use feats and science. I think we are missing STAGING(or just how some scenes are meant to be hyberbolic symbolic representations of power, rather then direct measurable feats: like Master Roshi blowing up the Moon in Dragon Ball(which means he wipes basically EVERY other anime character, if you take this as literal power level)) and also, canon description of power; as Oda doesn't intend for his characters to be: "multi-continental level", but rather end as: "island busters". As for One Piece, because of the staging, I think it's safe to say that the clouds were parted by: "mystical forces" rather than brute force; also, ANY character moving faster than the speed of light without spatial or temporal warping powers, would create a singularity that would consume them AND the world before they finish their first step(and they would need to be stronger than superman to escape).
i heard in a video that it takes a level 15 earthquake to destroy the world. If wb awakened, or if he used his awakening, he very well mighve destroyed it
It would take one yonko to beat all five kage. You don’t even need a yonko you just need someone on the level of law or Kidd who are equals in their own right to take down the five kage
@@BetterKeepCalmOFFICIAL madara that made 10 perfect susano? Madara that Literally couldn’t die😂 madara that had a form in limbo world? One piece characters can’t swim and y’all expect them to beat mfs with better fighting skills, faster, and wider array of attacks
@@darylvondutch6096the susanoos are shattering on one hit from them as they have total defense negation. limbo doesnt mean shit because they can see the future and dodge the incoming attacks. and wtf does swimming have to do with fighting? as far as i know madara doesnt use water style and unless they tell him he wouldnt be able to figure it out.
@@GolDJewelz susano shattering on one hit okay😂 now y’all not being real mfs were fighting literal GODS in naruto with powers and abilities handed down from gods you’re so wrong it’s nasty
Bro just ignored the strongest Yonko and just focused on his victims 💀 Shanks being on Kaido's top 5 and the fact that it was stated that he was captured by another Yonko which is Shanks basically just clearly says that Shanks defeated Kaido. If Kaido won against Shanks, I highly doubt he would just let him escape :/ . If Shanks doesn't outclass the Yonko in Pure Strength and Durability, his Haki and Speed makes up for it though since if he doesn't even outclass them in speed then why is he even a Yonko. Taking that into account, it's safe to say that Shanks is faster than Sanji which is so fast that you can't even see him which makes me believe that the fact that Shanks surpassed Kizaru's speed which is literally the speed of light. Seeing 8 gates guy who can arguably beat the 5 kage individually can't even react to Minato who is lightspeed just shows Shanks is on a different level. The fools saying Shanks is weak and only has speed ignores the fact how strong Haki can boost the power of a character in One Piece. We saw this by Post Wano Base Luffy being Stronger and Durable than Pre Wano Gear 4 version when he didn't have adv busoshoku Haki. The advance Haki tank a thunder bagua by Kaido in base which knocked him out while he was in gear 4 in Pre Wano. Shanks doesn't need the 3 Yonko's to beat the 5 Kage, he only needs Roux and Ben who is comparable to his captain.
People don't seem to realize, in the power scaling community, that One Piece characters are closer to moon level than they think. The One Piece world is 3 or 5 times the size of Earth, but I don't remember exactly how. And even not going into Powerscaling, which I hate to do, They show more impressive power sets.
Thank you for showing how relative these 2 verses are(akatsuki beat warlords and Yonko beat Kage) because our fanebases can’t seem to agree on ANYTHING lol. Great video, I thought the Kage were gonna win just off Hax but then I realized Big Mom exists
@@Sage-2002 Yea, I've always believe both verses were at least somewhat relative and am a firm believer in Final Saga Oda uping the scale. Either way, it's just a hypothetical versus battle, and it can't change my opinion on how I feel about each anime regarding of any powersclaing so there's really no need to get worked up over a guy on the internet saying "Naruto's number higher than goku's so he wins", it's never that serious for me lol
Yall forget about genjustsu and sealing jutsus, how would the pirates counter it, I love one piece, bleach and naruto. So I'm not being biased, just legit curious Since they don't have Chakra, same argument about how they can't hit them without haki.
@@3lverGalarga Some high tier Genjutsu work without the presence of chakra, the answer is simply Conquerors Haki(or just strong armament since it's literally the manifestation of the user's will) because to break out of a Genjutsu you need to induce physical pain onto yourself(or have it done to you) or have an extremely strong psyche(extremely mental fortitide), which Conqerors Haki fully encapsulates so I think it would be a good defense(for everyone except Luffy's dumbass). I will play division advocate and say that hypnotism in One Piece is absolutely cracked, I'm not tryna explain all that but @Parvision has a great short explaining it.
@@OtsutsukiMelvynNo. Naruto no diffs. He just makes 1000 clones for each Yonko and then just sit back and relaxes. Naruto solos the One Piece verse. Even the GOATs Roger, Primebeard, Prime Garp, and Rocks don’t stand a chance
@@elzyofficial9087 Lol not even close. One SO6P clone for each Yonko is all Naruto needs to do. If Naruto wanted to be a dick and show off, he could make far more clones than that, but that wouldn't be necessary
@@elzyofficial9087I'm sorry but no he's actually right. Roger and WB can be scaled very equally to Hashirama and EMS/Rinnegan Madara. And SO6P Naruto absolutely DOGWALKS Hashirama and Madara at their best(ignoring 10 Tails Madara). SO6P Naruto is literally taking out all Yonkos at the same time
It seems like I'm going to be pretty unpopular for this but I think the Yonko take a hard L. 1. Oonoki and Gaara stopped a literal meteor. It would have probably did much more damage than gear 5 Luffy's bajrang gun could, therefore, oonoki should be able to handle Bajrang gun. 2. People talk about big mom's homies. Kage deal with elemental jutsu all the time. Lightning, fire, wind etc. Homies are no problem. 3. Even if their powers were equal, kage make a better team. Tsunade can heal, Gaara can long distance blitz you and so much more, Oonoki can fly but I admit that Kaido can too. A can speed blitz but I admit that future sight would help Kaido and Shanks deal with that. 4. Naruto characters are well past light speed. Kisaru is considered fast to one piece characters but would be slow motion for Naruto characters. So yeah, I know many may view me as a villain for saying such things, but.... If you're going to make me a villain, please make sure I'm a really good one
1) youre using headcanon to justify why that meteor would cause more damage than bajrang gun That bajrang gun is infused with acoc + boosted by elastic force + its weightless so luffy can punch it with ease 2) big mom can make the kage's jutsus as homies , not just fire and clouds 3) big mom can also heal using the life spans she had absorbed seen from her fight with law and kidd , shanks is already a great distance fighter by looking from his move , divine departure 4) pre ts zoro , luffy and sanji already had LS feats as well , also , kizaru isnt capped at SOL , oda stated devil fruits can be trained to their max potential , theres many scans showing kizaru amping his speed
Finally someone who doesn't lowball the Yonko speed. Most people put them at only FTL speeds even though pre-ts Straw Hats are dodging literal light in base forms. I have even see people argue that since Kizaru is a top tier and is considered one of the fastest top tiers that mean One Piece can't go much beyond lightspeed which is straight up false. I definitely think your ftl+ 45x LS is teetering a lowball since some calcs plus boosts have gotten the Yonkos to 1,800x LS based on a Zoro calc and then multiplying by boosts, but its definitely still a midball since its not less than lightspeed or just ftl speeds. Keep in mind this is the generation before current Yonkos as well and all the current Yonkos except Buggy have to be stronger just by default. Gear Fifth has already been proven to be massively stronger than Kaido as the debunks to say Kaido was weak against Gear Fifth have been debunked. We can assume that even with no feats the current Yonko have to be stronger (except Buggy) since they will be written to clash with Luffy eventually.
In the Naruto universe, the kage are not even in the top 10 most powerful characters, bar Naruto himself. In one piece, the Yonko are almost exclusively considered the strongest individuals that we currently know of. And the yonko we have seen go all out, i believe, are weaker than shanks, not sure about oldWbeard. We don't know much about shanks... *SPOILERS* But we know he can see into the potential future, and we know he has attacks appearing to be on par with prime rogers. I think kaido alone in dragon form, with his huge body and fire breath and all his hakis, vs the kage, wouldn't be too far off from the kage vs madara with 1 susanoo fight. You throw in Bigmom with her main homies, i dont even know whats left for shanks to do. Whitebeard just wants to be a part of the family they dont even need him, he cant even walk without his spear/walking staff. Im joking, but i dont see the kage as very competent fighters compared to the yonko, who are all real brawlers with hax abilities. I think its unrealistic for the kage to beat all four yonko and its really kind of cruel to gas them up so much. Its patronizing. Lol but a cool fight would be the kage and their armies vs the yonko with their crews. No allies, only officially enrolled members of those parties. Would have to define some characters specifically, and would need to pick a point in each timeline to keep consistency.
We havent seen a single yonko go all out, kakdo wasnt taking luffy serious most of the time and barely used named attacks, also the fact that if he went all out he would destroy onigashima and he needs onigashima, same for BM she could easily destroy onigashima but they need it, we barely see anything from shanks who is basically featless and we saw old wb who was holding back because he didnt want to hurt his crew, primebeard during the fight against roger in odens backstory was holding back and so was roger, it was only a friendly fight Also prime wb>kaido>shanks
@sbthesage2100 Context of "World" does mean the planet of One Piece. However, I disagree to anyone that thinks that he would outright destroy the planet on some DBZ bs. Realistically it would make him Continental - Multi Continental (Moon level) given the way quake's work. It would infact not only wreak havoc on the society of the world but the planet itself... Which still wouldn't make him planet level. However if you take in the assumed size of the OP Planet then he could definitely get there.
What evidence is there white beard can create a quake this massive? And in what amount of time would it take for white beard to destroy the world this is literally never stated so anything after sengokus statement is pure headcanon
@@Sage-2002 You do know that Black Beard did the same, right? Vice Admiral Tsuru literally said that there would be no where to run, right? "I could run to the *Ends of the Ocean* and *not find any safe haven* from this"? That whole Arc is nothing but context. Downplay somewhere else! Obviously you're reading 2 Piece and a Biscuit, Homie!
@@MrSkullkid15 lmaooo black beard was sending tsunamis to Sabaody that did nothing while literally not knowing how to control the fruits power which would make his feats the more destructive then white beards lmao also tsuru saying she could flee to the ends of the earth dosenr mean he can destroy the planet idiot just means he can cause massive destruction with range in more than one area you know you would have to prove that the quakes can reach everywhere on the planet right you can’t assert it with no evidence? Other than a character statement ? Which is unreliable again without feats
The fact that even fujitora the 2nd weakest admiral destroy them because if they can't move against fujitora's zushi zushi no mi they wouldn't stand a chance because literally could bring down a dressrosa sized maybe bigger asteroids also if they are paralyzed by the sheer force of gravity they will mostly end up 6'0 ft underground.
The problem that I see is that the 5 kages are too dependent of their unique ninjutsus to overcome the Yonkous in other unfamiliar ways. Their way of fighting wouldnt work on Yonkous because the pirates are not only stronger but more balanced and experienced close combat fighters than them. Also you forgot to mention the feat of base form Kaido surviving a fall from a Sky Island without any injury.
You're saying that sengoku is just saying he has the power to destroy the society, and you gave an example where that spandum asked if luffy can survive the world. Yet the entire world isn't with the world government, such as the land of giants which is the most powerful nation or wano or skypia. You see the issue with your point? Spandum and sengoku are talking about 2 different meaning of the word world. Literally after sengoku said that statement, why was oda showing panels of the planet getting affected? People who talks about this statement never care to mention what happens after the statement was said. That's how you can catch dishonest people. Read and get the full context, stop being lazy and just taking the statement because it's a popular statement people mention
@@Sage-2002 don’t waste your time. He’s a bum. Sengoku obviously meant he’d just destroy the surface over time and warp the planet. Only an idiot would believe Whitebeard could literally destroy the planet. One Piece fans so badly want to be in the power scaling scene that they practically just headcanon feats into existence. If Prime Beard was planetary then that’d mean that Shiki, Garp, Sengoku, Roger, etc. Were all planetary which we know to very much not be true
@@elzyofficial9087 hell naw. Shanks OHKO's Madara off rip. Doing simple powerscaling, Law could destroy a WHOLE mountain range in Punk Hazard and that is equal to Madara destroying a whole mountain range with Perfect Susano. Law then gets a MASSIVE power boost in Wano and is relative to Kidd who also got a power boost in Wano. In the next arc, Kidd gets OHKO'd alongside Killer by Shanks despite their buffs which means Shanks would just speed blitz Madara and OHKO him before anything happens. Ontop of Big Mom stating that she needed the Giant Army to even contend with Shanks, on top of Buggy claiming Shanks should have already been the King of the Pirates in this generation, ontop of many other things. Madara doesn't win at all even if Madara is Jubi Madara, he still loses because he would have lossed to 8 Gates Guy and Shanks is stronger than 8 Gates Guy so even godlike Madara loses to Shanks.
@@snowforest1998 Madara doesn't even get pass Kidd and Law bro. Law dumpsters him hard because Law already accomplished madara's best feats several arcs ago before he got his Wano power boost. Now that he is post Wano Law, Law negs Madara. Shock Willie and Puncture Willie both OHKO him even in Perfect Susano and since Madara doesn't have haki, Law just uses Amputate and Madara can't do anything and Law isn't as strong as the Yonko which means that the Yonko upscale from that.
I mean, Kaido fought nearly everyone at Onigashima (worst generation, Big Mom for a while, scabbards, ryou + g2/3/4/5 Luffy) with basically no breaks, all while lifting the WHOLE island several feets in the air (and for hours). Shanks stopped that same Kaido from going to Marineford. Big Mom rivalized with Kaido, have Napoleon, Zeus/Hera, Prometheus and can make more homies out of basically anything, can heal with them, heal them and can make herself even bigger. Whitebeard literally can spam earthquakes, is like 9ft tall and tanked all that happened to him while being old and severely sick. All of them with incredible speed, strenght and haki (all versions of it). Just saying. 🤷
whitebeard, during his era, was the strongest yonko, he would have been able to do a lot more at marineford if it wasnt for his age and someone named squard
@@kidgoku3763 base luffy pre time skip dodges pacifista lazars which move at the speed of light, a feat he repeats in base post time skip. Gear 2 is a flat 5 times increase, and gear 4 is multiple times more than that. Bare minimum return to sabody luffy is 10x light speed, in wano luffy surpasses his gear 4 self in base on the rooftop. He can then stack gear 2 & 4 to get to bare minimum 100x and then gear 5 on top of that.
The Kage get razed. It's not even a question. Having said that, I really like Ohnoki. Dudes abailities are awesome and the dude just doesnt die LOL He's a goat.
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The kage are getting clapped within 5 minutes
Tsunade and mei getting clapped fr 😂😂😂
Facts just complete facts😂😂😂😂😭
Invalid opinion
Yes they are
@@iisomeoneii2091 which way to be clapped 😋
People who think that the yonkou would lose because the nature of their characters would lead to them fighting each other rather than the kage don’t realize that the power output from just being near their battle would most likely take out the 5 kage by accident
Why do people say yonkou where are you getting the u from
@@DarkXreami think its yonkou for Japanese but the community say yonko
@@DarkXream yonkou is the real term in Japanese not yonko. Yonko is just a kind of accent of non japanese which is kind of pronouncation error
debate this then
Japanese words don't use English letters ur both wrong
Big mom alone has multiple attacks that can damage all the kage at the same time. If she uses her Indra: God of Lightning attack then is a wrap for the kage. They can't dodge it because it's lightning bolts that have a soul, which tracks you because it is literally alive.
It won’t hurt them
Naruto charactrs slways deal with lightning attacks
@@animoments8969 Just Like You Said One Piece Characters Will Never Die So Luffy Can Become The Pirate King If I Go On With Ur Logic
@@animoments8969 LMAO Naruto characters lighting attacks are small compared to big mom attacks.
@@fabianvargas3448 what ? 😂
Kirin ?
Ten tails Cataclysm ?
Limelight ?
It’s crazy to think that the haki clash between Kaido and Luffy was pretty casual. It wasn’t a big named attack at the end of the fight. It was just another casual clash between them
Not a casual clash lmao yonko clashes are supposed to be some of the strongest clashes in the series but they did get stronger so there’s that
@@Sage-2002 Thats not really what he meant...
he's saying, the clash luffy and kaido did to completely blow away the insane amount of clouds in the sky in seconds was just a single clash. It wasn't a clash where both of them went full strength on. Luffy just learned advanvced conquerers at that time, it was heavily in its early stage. We know as the fight continued, Luffy improved his conquerers haki. We even hear from luffy later in the fight when kaido went drunk, his haki power increased. Then moments after kaido powers up again and powers up again later in the fight.
So the main thing is that, that clash that blew away the clouds like it was nothing, was not kaido not even close to using full power, also that attack was a basic attack. It wasn't an attack kaido named. If that attack was ragnarok, then we can say that kaido did put quite an effort into that attack. But no it was just a plain old swing that wasnt even close to full power.
@@Tanpopo2013 I agree with you, he didn't reply because he realized you're right but will still preach the ''whitebeard wasn't planetary'' nonsense. Some of these RUclipsrs are really corny.
If a casual clash is considered to be continental what about a full power swing from Kaido's Hasakai?
And also in the canon story, prime Chinjao was shown both in the manga and anime to be able to split the ice continent in half with a single hit, and was one shotted by Garp with a no named attack. And Chinjao isn't even in the top tier sphere of the One Piece world, in fact he's far from that given that he wasn't shown to display any form of advance Haki and doesn't posses any top tier or haxed devil fruit.
Long story short, if a mid tier character in terms of power level like Chinjao has enough Attack Potency to perform a continental level feat, what about top tiers like Kaido, Garp, Whiteboard, Roger, Shanks etc. Their AP must be much higher so it isn't far fetched to think they could be planetary in terms of AP.
Most people just don't know the difference between Attack Potency and Destructive Capacity.
@@kevintoukam7466don't forget pretimeskip BBs moon lvl Calc with the uncontrolled power of the Gura Gura along with whitebeards causal multi-continental Calc during marineford, the AP of the yonko was severely downplayed, even if u don't believe that their planetary they bare minimum have multi-continental AP scaling
@@Sage-2002what about bajrang gun then
Every time the sengoku argument is brought up.
I always imagine he meant that Whitebeard can destroy the world not in the sense of blowing it up, but rather causing multiple tsunamis and tremors that would destroy all life.
He can split the sea, so imagine he used all his power in his prime, he could possibly just cause multiple huge tsunamis across the world and drown everyone.
Except fishmen and skypiens
I agree with this, its not really his raw power that does it but is just how his df works
Fax, earthquakes can cause volcanic eruptions and tsunamis.
Nope with white beards will/haki strengthening his devil fruit wb can actually destroy the world he just doesn't do that because why would he? And also he has he's crew beside him they might get hurt.
@@RohnBurgess if I remember correctly. An assistant of oda said something along the lines like, in his prime and not Ill. With full mastery of the fruit. Whitebeard can crush the world like a grape. This is what I heard in the comments unless I was misinformed.
Big Mom could also counter Mei's water release by turning it into a homie, as she was shown creating a tidal wave homie that was completely under her control.
Bruh 💀
Turn an Chakra attack into Homie mid Air ?
Did big mom turn Kid and Law's attacks into Homie ?
Why didn't big mom just turn Kid's Metal Attacks into Homies ?
Don't be stupid.
A Chakra attack most of all🤦
Bruh wtf are u talking about 😂
@@KareemLaLa10 She didn’t turn Kid’s attacks into homies because she was cocky. And the one time she tried absorbing life energy in that fight Law muted her.
Don’t be an ass because the kage can’t win this
@@megabladechronicles962 what ?
She wasn't cocky when she was gonna die.
She couldn't. That's it. And She can't turn Energy like Haki or Chakra to Homie either.
She can't take Life energy from people who are afraid of her.
Kage wasn't Afraid to Fight Madara.
Big mom is a laughstock.
Kage Wins ez
@@KareemLaLa10 what are you talking about? When chakra creates an element it doesn’t stay chakra it becomes whatever element the user wants it to be. Also I didn’t say Big Mom was stealing energy from Kid and Law she tried stealing from their crew mates and even if she can’t steal from people not afraid of her she can use her own life energy to make homies, that’s how she made Zeus, Prometheus, Hera, and Napoleon. And Big Mom was absolutely cocky, she didn’t think Kid or Law could hurt her, she only panicked after Kid blasted her through the floor towards the ocean.
Rewatch the fight because you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
Why is this being discussed? A yonko (except buggy) is enough to fight the 5 kages and no diff them.
Naruto is planetery
@@animoments8969 pretty sure this mf found the second extra chromosome
Fax
We talking about yonkos and kages chill stay within that not naruto
@@animoments8969 what doesnt naruto have to do with this
One thing about Whitebeard's power to destroy the world statement is that we forget that the One Piece world is a lot bigger than OUR world. But people keep calcing it to ONLY the power to destroy a planet the size of OUR world. When Sengoku said that Whitebeard has the power to destroy the world, he was talking about his OWN world, not ours.
According to a youtuber named DcDoesPhysics, the One Piece world is 37 times bigger than Earth, and the Naruto world is 6 times bigger than Earth. So even Kurama's ACTUAL planetary statement calcs should be higher too.
needs to be stated.
He should've added more on big mom like her 3 main helpers Napoleon, Prometheus,Zeus/Helga,the fuze version 3000 leagues of misery and the fact she can consume the souls to increase her size,and repair broken limbs
Mentioned healing her homies are basically just her full power if we’re being honest outside of keeping her from dying to the ocean
he didn't mention them to decrease the damage he will give to kage fans😂
Even some decently read One Piece fans still sleep on Big Mom they puropsely downplay her in the anime sometimes too so I guess it's to be expected. But a clip of God of Lightning Tenjin would have illustrated the point of her powers more clearly.
@@Sage-2002like the others, except Shanks
A simple logic i can put on here is madara almost soloing the 5 kage by a single mountain level slash, and the four yonkous are literally continental level through scaling as one piece world is much much much bigger than any normal earth
Lmao and a boro breath from kaido incinerated a mountain💀
@@damarionthomas701 yea and that, 5 kage don't stand a chance against even one of the yonkous
@@dechrysoph5298 it's an unfortunate truth that the yonko are just power houses like, why do u think the gov used all there resources to combat 1 yonko
Outside of Mihawk, the 5 of the warlords would be a better comparison
not to mention garp to warm up was using mountains as punching bags and destroying them. not even fighting, mans was warming up lol. naruto characters have to use their strongest attacks to make a dent in a mountain.
The yonko wipe insanely hard, good video but I do think the scaling for both of their speeds and one pieces AP/durability wasn’t great since even pre time skip Blackbeard and Luffy are multi continental and Luffy can easily be scaled to mftl+ or higher while for Naruto most of the speed feats get contradicted by the statements being bad or them just blatantly getting retconned by later feats in the show
aight bro multi continental pre ts luffy is absolute wank, luffy became multi continental in like dressrosa and he's mftl post ts
naruto is at a high lowball planetery
@@Dkarm26 hé could damage Blackbeard who performed a multi continental feat and he beat Moria who’s stronger than Oars who’s continental
@@joeygamingnl2724 Luffy damaging Blackbeard, who has a df that causes him higher damage than usual, does NOT put Luffy at multi continental AT ALL
@@kujodriptaro3560 devil fruits scale to the user as in Blackbeard’s quake would also be able to damage him but not one shot him like Luffy
Whenever anyone in any fiction says someone can destroy "the world" I always take it as them being able to surface wipe the planet, or at least destroy multiple contingents. It is not until someone says planet that I interpret is as that. Besides in some fictions the world is way smaller, or the world that humans occupy and usually when they say the world they just mean where people are.
Most of the time the world means society also
@@Dilllonm yeah or that, just making society collapse
The one piece world is way bigger than earth.
@@biasedpotato8511 even if it's star sized, destroying the surface of a star sized planet is less energy than destroying the earth itself xd
@@LoudYapperyeah that’s true, but if anything the world of one piece would be larger, like literally everything else in one piece rather than abnormally small. But yea whitebeard fsho not planetary
Kaido would be able to 1v5 the kage none of them have shown anything to allow me to believe that they would be able to overcome kaido. He's a walking tank with high dps and unimaginable speed
And madara would clap warlords admirals and yonko combined.
Bro, Kaido is not beating all 5 Kage. This man is not tanking a Particle Beam from Onoki. He will be disintegrated in a split second trying to tank something he do not understand. Brute Force can’t always win battles 😑😒. Naruto characters don’t rely on brute force fights when they can use a jutsu that can instantly kill their opponent. Kaido looking for a good fight. Ninjas in the Narutoverse is looking for blood.
@@whitelotus4703
The Kage where ultimately too weak to beat Edo Madara because none of them could match the power he could unleash with perfect susanoo. He literally toyed with them.
Even if you don’t think Kaidou’s as strong as Edo Madara, he’s not going to have trouble with the 5 kage.
@@getpape4126madara would get clapped by kizaru & Akainu alone, his attacks would be ineffective as well as his genjitsu since they both can clear out with OHaki
@@legendaryedu cap ur just a one piece fanboy
The speed of the yonko in this video was severely underrated, gaaras sand is not outspeeding any of them, zoro has a lightspeed or relatavistic minimum(depending what scaling you go with) feat on thriller bark(dodging kumas ls attack point blank while injured) and luffy was at least equal to him, and then the canon 3d2y movie makes the timeskip a 100x increase to luffys physical stats, plus luffy eclipsing his gear 4 form(15x mult) in base arc after arc dressrosa g4
Wanna debate this ? discord.gg/yWc5DYF8
@@Sage-2002not much to debate really, he layed it all out right there
u a nerd
Right bro really underscaled the yonko way too far they’re easily planetary with MFTL speeds, with hax that can deal with regular & enhanced elements
Bigmom alone would fodderslam them
@@DanVerbatim what he’s laying out has fallacy’s lmao so why would ranting uninterrupted automatically make you correct ? You’d think if he was so good at explaining scaling he’d have his own channel lmao
whoever suggested this just wanted to show someone why the 5 kage best scramble like an egg or get folded like an oemlet
Though usually in shonen it wouldn’t matter, I would say the size difference between normal sized humans and the Four Emperors is definitely something to consider
Did it when they fought luffy law and kid
@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg yes lol
@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg no but also they're used to abnormally large people. Besides the tailed beasts who in the Naruto world is 7ft+? Just straight punches from Whitebeard, Big Mom or Kaido would hit literally like a truck to the kages
@@radexyz-fx8ix not really considering the yonko lost. If there’s dialogue stating that these large opponents are difficult to fight then I’ll believe it. But it’s literally just cosmetic and has no influence on the fight
@@radexyz-fx8ix not really considering the yonko lost. If there’s dialogue stating that these large opponents are difficult to fight then I’ll believe it. But it’s literally just cosmetic and has no influence on the fight
Just to clarify big mom can deff keep up with kaido as well it’s just that kaido sees her as a sister and could never truly fight her to death like he could shanks and whitebeard
@Nightshadow3_7the things is Big Mom is almost as strong as Kaido I'd say but IDK WHY but she didn't use conquerors coating against law and kid.
But if she did then law and kid would have NO CHANCE against her.
@@alain_kunimaybe she didn't take them seriously
@@alain_kunishe can’t use it, in terms of strength she’s close to kaido but their haki is completely different kaido is superior in haki and haki surpasses all
She used it on Page One hush up@@bluebandit9715 Big Mom sees Kaido as her little brother she NEVER took Law and Kid seriously even directly after the Puncture Willie when Kid was charging his Rail Gun she said "Take your best Shot!! I am *BIG MOM* !!!" She also already had them beaten but their crews kept crying and begging for mercy and she wanted to check on Kaido so she didn't finish them off right there.
@@bluebandit9715she can use conquerrors haki, that's how Usopp tricked people
sengoku isnt the only person who states the whitebeard planetary thing oda metioned it in sps segs and its in the ace lightnovel which is canon
Oda never talks about planetary white beard lol and the Ace novel has the same statment which is he can destroy the world and o already explained why this dosent mean planet cope
@@Sage-2002did u read shit Naruto meat rider
It’s literally all the exact same context. Just becaue it’s reiterated more times doesn’t change its initial meaning. Alos by this logic kuramas biju bomb is planet level. He has 3 statements for this.
@@Sage-2002have u ever watched one peice or ever learned geography in class
Whitebeard litrally Grabs our dimension and tilts the tectonic plates which cause earthquake. Dumbhead
Your name is based on sage I knew this Channel is completely biased towards Naruto.
@@yudasrain4774 statements =\ reality wtf
Bigmom will take their sour if they fear her even 1% and eventually it'll happen
It wouldn’t eventually happen
@@yudasrain4774 well there are 3 more yonkous
@@yudasrain4774that's a lie, i think we forget big mom is an absolute monster
@@yudasrain4774 big mom is enough even if she is out of her prime
@@yudasrain4774 Trust me if 3 Guys Pull up on you 5 Times Bigger than you and Equal to Madara you would shit your pants
3:26 It was never confirmed that Shanks actually defeated Kaido in duel. All we know is that there was a "scuffle" and he stopped Kaido from going to Marineford. He might have:
- convinced him not to go
- tricked him (gotten him drunk, lured him elsewhere, etc)
- jumped him with his crew (I find it pretty unlikely though). I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that when they met, Kaido only had King with him, so it was Shanks's whole crew that confronted Kaido and King.
It's unlikely Shanks would have shown up in Marineford unscathed if he had fought Kaido 1v1 seriously.
Nah, I think it was confirmed I can’t remember where exactly I saw but it was officially said by someone in the manga or a pre novel that oda did, so I think that is confirmed, it makes sense tho, shanks by the looks of it seems pretty op at the moment and never thought I’ll see something more op than kaido.
@@andysosolgonzalez3136 until proof is provided, I'm gonna consider it cap. If it were true, I think Shanks fanboys would have made sure everybody knew it. lol
I don't agree that it makes sense. As I said Shanks showing up unscathed in Marineford after a serious, fair 1v1 fight against Kaido looks surreal. Even if we admit Shanks to be stronger than him (which is doubtful), it can't be by that much.
The yonkou were portrayed as relative to each other in strength and power, and Kaido was persistently portrayed as being HIM, said to be the strongest creature in the world. After he took control of Wano, I don't think he ever lost a fight until Luffy showed up.
Shanks seems pretty op at the moment but notice how that's after Kaido is out of the equation. A lot of people have started flexing after Kaido's fall. Greenbull showed up on Wano, confident that he could take on whoever was left on Wano...because he knew, anyone left would be either injured or far weaker than Kaido and Big Mom, so he assumed he could take them all by himself.
As for Shanks, his hype built up against people who would have been destroyed by Kaido 1v1: Greenbull, Kidd... His move to get the One Piece comes after Big Mom and Kaido have fallen. Probably because the yonkou were at a standstill in terms of getting each other's poneglyphs. If he could just casually beat Kaido, all of the above wouldn't make sense.
If there was a scuffle which means a fight and kaido fled and shanks appeared at mf, then shanks won brotha, like shanks is just like that bud
It’s stated he beat kaido lmao I showed the scans and everything what you’re saying is not at all provable at all just assumptions
Your saying you need proof but the statements that oda himself wrote are proof lmaooo
One thing I'm going to note is the statement with WB being able to destroy the world is factual seeing as it wasn't only said in the manga but in a SBS and it makes sense because he can just put a earthquake around a the world and crumble it its the same thing with Fujitora with his fruit he can summon a meteor large enough to destroy the world
Earth quakes just affect the surface of the erarth same with meteors
@@animoments8969not really. im from chile so i have a lot of experience with that, and if an earthquake happens in a place where 2 tectonic plates meet, it could lead to an amazing level of destruction. we have a place called falla de san ramon and is foresaw to it be destroyed or, at least, take a big damage if an earthquake starts close to it. and is not an if, but a when. so, if shirohige uses his fruit to it maximum power, it could lead to a chain reaction in the tectonic plates in the world and the destruction of the planet
@@ignacioperez5479 you guys confuse world with planet.destruction of a planet is some dbz type of shit where a planet completely blows up shockwaves and meteors cant do that.
also whitebeard doesnt control technotic plates he generates shockwaves himself.
world means anything above the earths surface but if you really wanna stretch it then anythything above the sea level.detroying the world could also mean that whitebeard will cause all life to be extinct.even if volcanoes change the entire landscape and cause life to be extinct only the surface is affected which isnt even 1% of the earths volume
@@animoments8969 an earth quake caused a big town to sink underwater in my country, theres a place where you can still see the top of a big church of said town and near the town theres a graveyard honoring those who died, it took a small earthquake to cause that much destruction, dont understimate them
Its never Meant to be takens as literally and debunk by databook itself
And WB's earthquake was never shown or stated to be felt all across the world + even shaking a sun is only large country level feat and fujitoro meteor is also calc to be at large country
Nither of this even come close for WB to be able to destory OP planet
I think advanced armaments should allow the Yonko to basically ignore Gaara's sand armor
What no, haki just negate elemental intangibility who uses logia df to become sand, ice, fire, light etc.
But gaara sand is just sand no a person who is sand.
@@Tabasco017 nah advanced armament negs dura it was shown
@@Tabasco017 Seems u didn't watch One Piece...
@@Tabasco017 ok you obviously dont know what ADVANCED armament haki is, I don't blame you for that as SB barely mentioned it in 8:45 ish. Advanced armament allows the damage from the yonko's attacks to flow trough matter and ignore outer layers of durability like Kaido's extremely though skin to directly damage your opponents insides
Or Big Mom can use her soul fruit to turn Gaara’s sand and armor against him
Ah yes sengoku would gas up his enemy when he has had enouters with him in the past and would scare his men in process the one piece world is a planet and a large planet at that give whitebeard his props
Why when hes not referring to the planet I use to think the same thing just bc sengoku has seen white beard fight dosent mean he thinks white beard can one shot the planet that’s ab association fallacy
@sbthesage2100 we don't mean wb gonna turn into a dB character and blow up the planet with his df he can cause a natural disaster so powerful it could destroy the world
@@Sage-2002 whitebeards df hass the most dc in the whole verse and was stated to be able to destroy the world, that was an old sick whitebeard who was clearly holding back, do i really have to bring up prime whitebeard? He can easily destroy the whole planet
@@h1gh_end134 want to debate this ?
Uta singing and almost ending the entire planet 💀
Faaaax
The people of the planet, not the planet itself
Chakra users can get out of it. That easy. Only reason One piece characters couldn't exit it is, because they doesn't have any counter to illusion, while Naruto characters does have counter tp those kinds of things.
@@ThashneemUta's realms is not an illusion lol, it's like an instant dimension like Kaguya while Kaguya has full control, Uta does not have full control, and there's this monster in her realm called Tot musica which can solo the 5 kages No diff.
like as inf tsukuyomi...and even tho there's a lot of Naruto characters that can change dimension
White beard by himself is boxing with madara who clapped the kage by himself
I’m convinced any of yonko could single handedly do the job 🤷🏽♂️
lets be realistic. its cap
Basically 5 kage vs 4 madara
exactly
holy glaze one Madara is enough to slam every yonko and we can even add admirals he still slam them alone. so chill bro
@@mouaadsafou7459 never cook again
@@mouaadsafou7459You’re talking about glazing 🙄any of them clear Madara
@@TonyTonyJake yeah no
Keep making these vids 🙏
13:04 Garaa has been shown to use his sand to make in the environment. As long as they fighting anywhere with earth he should have plenty of sand.
Completely forgot ab this however the yonko can still overpower it
@@Sage-2002hey don’t raikage scales above hybrid kaidos ap and gaara can block his attacks.
@@yudasrain4774pfft no
@@yudasrain4774nah, that’s cap 🧢
@@yudasrain4774kaido solos low diff
Using a translator's opinion as evidence for an argument against Sekai meaning planet, might be one of the gooniest things i"ve seen in a minute...
The Yonkou’s outclass the Kage in terms of pure power, IMO. Each one of them would give them trouble the same way Edo Madara did.
Madara claps the yonko easy and not even 10 tails madara
@@getpape4126🤡
@@getpape4126 bro after watching this video which is like 13 minute long and with proof you are still denying the facts
@@_awesomeme u one piece fanboys just don’t wanna accept Madara claps the verse
@@getpape4126Madara gets oneshotted by base Kaidou, cope.
I was about to comment "why didn't he say 4 yonko" then i remembered yonko means 4 emperors. Then i thought about that spider verse meme.
"Chai tea"
“You’re saying 4 4 emperors”
like calling saying a kaiju as “giant monster kaiju”
which mean
“giant monster giant monster”
@@cyaneetnoodlesmaker2251Or saying "bo staff." Bo means staff, so it's basically saying "staff staff."
This is going to be a slaughter
I think the 5 elders vs the 5 kage would make more sense once we see how powerful the elders are.
How do you scale that in 2023? Lol
Who are the elders?
@@MDG-mykys how far are you? The are beneath Imu if you don’t know who Imu is then I don’t want to spoil anything. Continue watching or reading 🫡
@@Riv_Flow oh yeah, I've seen them, so they actually have powers
@@MDG-mykys yeah zoan types it was revealed when Sabo tried saving Cobra
People mistake power levels with explosions a lot which is dumb
Cause by that logic pell is emperor level for tanking a nuke directly while the fifth hokage is lower than pell cause she was knocked out by a All mighty push which is equalivalent to the pell nuke
it's funny how dumb people are like pell would be surviving biju bombs left and right while the rest of the Naruto verse be quaking in their boot's,
Nobody dies to explosions except secondary character anyone else be like tis but a scratch XD
Oda just doesnt like killing characters I dont know why
It wasn't a nuke just a regular bomb
We gotta remember Pell is a zoan type DF user, enhance durability and regeneration
@@SAINTxSZNit was a nuke probably even greater cause it was stated to be able to wipe out all of alabasta I believe
@@animoments8969he’s killed ace, roger, fisher tiger, Nolan, cobra, whitebeard, and many more, all of whom are more important than Pell
This is disrespecting that naruto fans comparing kage to yonkos lol... One yonko solos them all without difficulty
Some naruto fans are illusional. Kaido Alone would one shot them. Even Naruto s06p would have an hard time against one yonko
@@binary7507 Lol one piece fangirl Naruto at the end of the series absolutely claps one piece verse without breaking a sweat. And yes I’ve seen both shows
@@binary7507 ur a delusional one piece fangirl. “Sage of six paths naruto struggles against one yonko” LMAO U GOTTA BE KIDDING
@@getpape4126 lmao there no any arguments for Naruto
@@binary7507 truth seeking orbs obliterate any one piece character
Considering, that the yonko are pretty much the strongest in their world and the kage aren‘t even close to getting compared to top tiers from naruto, it is kind of obvious that the yonko would wipe them, even wb alone would take all five of them i guess.
what??? the only ones that are stronger than the kage are team 7 at that time.
@@GolDJewelzwell, naruto, sasuke, kakashi, obito, madara,bee, guy, orochimaru, kabuto and of course those who have been reanimated such as pain, itachi, the old hokage and i probably haven‘t mentioned all of them. So there is a tremendous amount of people who are way way stronger than the 5 kage..
@@gee4911 exaggerating, but i said team 7. your high if you think bee, kabuto and orochimaru could beat them. and i mean i wasnt really talking about dead characters as there are alot of people who could be reanimated and beat them. i mean with just their own powers. pain wouldnt win, not too sure about itachi tho. and obv the otsutsukis.
@@gee4911 and the yonkos were the strongest at the time but one piece isnt done yet so they will most def get way stronger than where they are now. (the new yonkos i mean except buggy.)
@@GolDJewelzwell they wouldnt win in a fight against all of them, but they would definitely beat them individually. Pain could probably take on all 5 of them but that would be a incredibly difficult fight with an open ending. And all of the people i mentioned, would beat them, even if they were still alive (btw obviously not all 5 of them at the same time). The Yonkos are (Spoiler! Besides the admirals and the holy knights as well as the elders and dragon) probably the strongest in one piece, thats right. But Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Hashirama, Kakashi with 2 sharingan and might guy, wouldnt have any problem to take on 2 or 3 of them at the same time…
They couldnt touch kaido as don't have ryo or advanced concourus haki which you need to hurt him
By that logic, no one outside of one piece who doesn't have haki can't hurt him ?
ryou/haki isnt exactly that special bro
@@Shinku7 it is said you need it to hurt kaido because of his thick skin
@@randompoorlydrawndragon3076😂😂😅 it is special. Kaido mentioned that Roger conquered the sea with only Haki. It is the most broken power which yet to explore. Remember shanks is a strongest with only Haki.
@@samar9614 I meant that ryou/haki isn't special enough where people from other universes or something can't touch logia users because they don't know/don't have haki
But yes, ryou/haki is overpowered
Remember, Ryou (advanced armament) is actual dura neg. And I’m pretty sure all the classic yonko can use it, so all of them have access to at least 1 form of dura neg.
Yonko slap watch the video
@@Sage-2002I know. Kaido slams them alone. Giving him 3 other people comparable is overkill.
Bro just 1 yonko wipes now if it was the hokage itd be a different question
I agree fully BUT I still want to see an animated fight of them at similar levels in power cause it would be an epic looking fight
Wait Kakashi literally dodged Itachi's water pistol thingie, how are you calling him slower?
good vid
He's really trying to find a reason for whitebeard not to be planetary.
Yeah cause reasons matter dummy 😭
The Kages can’t hold a candle to the Yonkou they simply can’t keep up
Gaaras sand is just a weaker crocodile's without logia immunity
so true x) trying to protect himself with sand and getting ranmei hakei into oblivion x)
11:25 the issue here is that is confirmed Haku could move at light speed and the gap between the speed of light and the speed of lightning is great enough for Haku to perform that feat even if Kakashi has gotten faster.
There is no gap that’s a fallacy🤣
@@elzyofficial9087 are you really saying there’s no gap between the speed of light and the speed of lightning? Are you saying that acknowledging difference in speed is fallacy?
Remember that the raikage who is known as one of the fastest characters in Naruto is only light speed. So haku is not light speed in attack speed.
@@niteeshj1097 the Raikage being one of the fastest doesn’t discredit Haku’s speed especially when Haku was pretty much unknown when he died.
@@onesmart229 Are you saying haku is faster than the raikage?
Bruh it was never stated that shanks defeated kaido a scuffle is a short fight of sorts or a minor exchange and if you think shanks low diffed kaido which is the only case if he did defeat kaido and king then how is it the rest of the crew and shanks showed up with no wounds whatsoever unless shanks scales way higher than kaido if he’s able to low diff him and receive no visible injuries
A scuffle is all they need to know that shanks could potentially beat him in a fight, which kaido states is true. He probably retreated once they realized shanks can turn off their observation haki
0:55 I think what he ment was the world being all the island. A huge part of what makes whitebeard's power terrifying is the fact that in a world which is majority sea and comprises of several island his power can make tremors to the scale that can cause huge Tsunami and manipulate huge land masses. Such kind of power can indeed destroy the world. However slow it may be.
1:55 ah yes because every character uses the same definition of "world" in completely different contexts
They're all geting divine departured in to heaven 💀
Kaido gives them the Madara treatment.
It’s funny that any of the emperors can just look at the grand ninja alliance and knock out 50-100k of them instantly with conquerors. Madara can’t even do that
Oda Stated Shanks could easily knock out 100k and since the Alliance was 80k they are easy XP
do you wanna know how easy it is to see that you are wrong? them not getting knocked out by a Yonkos CoC would make them serious opponents for Yonko and those "Skilled Ninja" are just fodder as much as any other background character@lucifer61479
@lucifer61479doesn't matter if you're strong, if your will is weaker than any conquerors user then you are cooked.
Lol, they shitted their pants when Madara dropped a meteor and they completely lost their ground and stature.
Seeing a 3 miles dragon that can easily wipe out the entire sky they would shit their pants harder.
an op character who can knock out 50k characters in his verse doesn't mean he can also knock out 50k in a different verse. the verse and the cosmology of NAruto in general is wayyy higher than op verse. if Madara can't do that its cuz he doesn't have pression power like CoC or spiritual pressure.
Nothing to do with the video, but i believe that, when sengoku stated that whitebeard could destroy the world, it was referring to the political and society world of one piece. And im think its in a serious way. He could destroy the red line, bringing all the ocean together and destroy the world goverment by doing so.
Cool vid, just fyi at 3:29 Shanks was never said to have defeated Kaido. He only got into an alteraction with/ but never shown to actually fight. The fact that he came to marineford unscathed backs this up.
Why
I watched Naruto and one piece
And I give this one too yonkos
well u have to read different databook
We got
Kaido as the defensive Offense
Whitebeard as the Crowd control defense
Bigmom as the AOE attacker
And Shanks being the one shot-one go
Shanks is stronger and faster than Kaido and Big Mom as Kid dodged and tanked multiple attacks from them while Shanks easily one shot him.
@@TheYodelingViking shanks is stronger and faster than kaido?says who
@@TheYodelingVikingshanks caught kidd completely off guard charging his attack AND kiss’s attack blew up in his face at the same time lol
@@orangescore5148did you see the new episode of kaido moving in his dragon form dodging luffy attacks
@@TheYodelingViking maybe because kidd wasnt expecting it at all and his own attack blew up on him
I think it would be interesting to see Madara vs Kaidō
Madara would obliterate Kaido
Depends which madara
@@nalajoshomk6055lol kaido would destroy him
@@binary7507 tell me how.
@@nalajoshomk6055juubidara destroys him , the other versions of him cant , maybe edo because of its hax
2:08 That’s Arthur’s (translator) own opinion on the statement not what is being said in the original Japanese translation.
Ohnokis particle style on the yonkos ggs to the yonkos
If we analyze all angles the four emperors are always in top if the four are together their are few forces in naruto could stop them maybe no only one emperor could crush all five kages but it is not easy for one emperor to crush the kages four emperors vs five kage is very easy to predict because one emperor is an a force to be feared if four is in the fight there is nothing the five kages could do i'm not understimating the five kages but the favor is to the emperors.
Considering that it was confirmed in manga that whitebeard said that the op planet has 1million islands. we can come to the estimate that the planet is about the size of Jupiter or larger. Shanks and mihawks duels shook the red line which is a continent that goes around the entire planet. Whitebeard had a fight with someone and his power caused tsunami's across the planet. Luffys bajrang gun created shockwaves that expanded for 1000 miles. These are well beyond planetary lvl feats considering how large the op planet is with 1 million islands not counting continents.
Was it confirmed how big the islands were? Because that wouldn't correlate to the size of Jupiter when you think about the Philippines and there islands in total which are in the thousands also but when you look at the 🌎 map it is a tiny place in compared to somewhere like the 🇺🇸 .
I mean if he's saying the smallest are like the island where the guy thats stuck in a box is at then thats still not going to add up to Jupiter size, but if the majority are like alabasta size then it might come out bigger then our earth
Bro, Marco stated they are 10-20million islands in OP world
assumption, as too planet size doesn’t change feats.
@@DandyInLuv it does. At least If the onepiece planet is 2-4x bigger than a normal earth, wb could destroy a few
@@binary7507 again, it needs to be stated or its an assumption. even if narrative consistencyes support such, it needs to be stated or youll highball for no reason.
as to planet size, doesnt change feats.
a country level feat is still a country level feat.
There is tiers in vsbw for a reason, read them.
Every hokage vs yonko would be more interesting
Yonkos are easily getting wiped no cap
@@nalajoshomk6055how
They can MAYBE take on 1 yanko JUST 1. If u put more than 1 yanko its gona be absolute massacre
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the size of the one piece planet in an argument I mean it’s said to be the size of our sun
It’s not but you can get it there by scaling
The kage are getting wororororo’d
The raikage is MFTL or Massively faster then light. Just his normal self is faster then light or FTL. But, when the lightweight boulder jutsu is done on him he is even more faster. Putting him at MFTL.
I like how everyone say that he is light speed because of the statement, but yet never read the full statement. The statement says that he moves ALMOST the speed of light. So with the lightweight jutsu how do you know he is massively faster than light. Smh
@@akadenanderson3283 Lol shit the statement says even less than that. Literally say "Speed like light" or "Light like speed"
It's not a blatant light speed statement. You know how translations are. It's the equivalent to "Like a flash of Light".
"Almost light speed" would make it relativistic.
@@MrSkullkid15 is it not a mistranslation I heard in the original it says as fast as yellow flash not flash light ?
Raikage is SOL at best.
@@kiraa454 I don't think that's the original text but I could go over it. Even still, ive seen that scan as well and it only makes it less credible if so.
I think the anime community has terrible scaling metrics, because we just use feats and science. I think we are missing STAGING(or just how some scenes are meant to be hyberbolic symbolic representations of power, rather then direct measurable feats: like Master Roshi blowing up the Moon in Dragon Ball(which means he wipes basically EVERY other anime character, if you take this as literal power level)) and also, canon description of power; as Oda doesn't intend for his characters to be: "multi-continental level", but rather end as: "island busters".
As for One Piece, because of the staging, I think it's safe to say that the clouds were parted by: "mystical forces" rather than brute force; also, ANY character moving faster than the speed of light without spatial or temporal warping powers, would create a singularity that would consume them AND the world before they finish their first step(and they would need to be stronger than superman to escape).
mans is applying real world physics to anime. especially in one piece where drinking milk brings your bones back lol. and roshi does solo most verses.
TBF If you can move at Light Speed with ease I think you have the Power to escape
No, WB had the tremor tremor fruit, I think Sengoku meant he can destroy the actual WORLD.
i heard in a video that it takes a level 15 earthquake to destroy the world. If wb awakened, or if he used his awakening, he very well mighve destroyed it
It would take one yonko to beat all five kage. You don’t even need a yonko you just need someone on the level of law or Kidd who are equals in their own right to take down the five kage
After seeing what Madara did to them all at the same time I think ANYONE can guess that they get completely mopped by the Yonko
None of the yonko would beat madara… wouldn’t get close to beating him
@@darylvondutch6096 Madara during the war arc? Yeah no lol Kaido can beat Madara
@@BetterKeepCalmOFFICIAL madara that made 10 perfect susano? Madara that Literally couldn’t die😂 madara that had a form in limbo world? One piece characters can’t swim and y’all expect them to beat mfs with better fighting skills, faster, and wider array of attacks
@@darylvondutch6096the susanoos are shattering on one hit from them as they have total defense negation. limbo doesnt mean shit because they can see the future and dodge the incoming attacks. and wtf does swimming have to do with fighting? as far as i know madara doesnt use water style and unless they tell him he wouldnt be able to figure it out.
@@GolDJewelz susano shattering on one hit okay😂 now y’all not being real mfs were fighting literal GODS in naruto with powers and abilities handed down from gods you’re so wrong it’s nasty
Bro just ignored the strongest Yonko and just focused on his victims 💀
Shanks being on Kaido's top 5 and the fact that it was stated that he was captured by another Yonko which is Shanks basically just clearly says that Shanks defeated Kaido. If Kaido won against Shanks, I highly doubt he would just let him escape :/ . If Shanks doesn't outclass the Yonko in Pure Strength and Durability, his Haki and Speed makes up for it though since if he doesn't even outclass them in speed then why is he even a Yonko. Taking that into account, it's safe to say that Shanks is faster than Sanji which is so fast that you can't even see him which makes me believe that the fact that Shanks surpassed Kizaru's speed which is literally the speed of light. Seeing 8 gates guy who can arguably beat the 5 kage individually can't even react to Minato who is lightspeed just shows Shanks is on a different level. The fools saying Shanks is weak and only has speed ignores the fact how strong Haki can boost the power of a character in One Piece. We saw this by Post Wano Base Luffy being Stronger and Durable than Pre Wano Gear 4 version when he didn't have adv busoshoku Haki. The advance Haki tank a thunder bagua by Kaido in base which knocked him out while he was in gear 4 in Pre Wano. Shanks doesn't need the 3 Yonko's to beat the 5 Kage, he only needs Roux and Ben who is comparable to his captain.
People don't seem to realize, in the power scaling community, that One Piece characters are closer to moon level than they think. The One Piece world is 3 or 5 times the size of Earth, but I don't remember exactly how. And even not going into Powerscaling, which I hate to do, They show more impressive power sets.
Luffy is Dwarf Star Level Imo
Madara&Hashirama (Alive) Vs all Yonko would be cool
HOW to scale yonkos and kages as a one piece and naruto watcher :
1- common since
Bro just said “common since” its common sense bozo 😭🤣🤦♂️
@@AAAAAA-cn1ly here comes the unpaid auto grammar guy, basically a bot
@@bossOROS don't get mad at me because you're mentally challenged and I'm trying to fix your mistake
Thank you for showing how relative these 2 verses are(akatsuki beat warlords and Yonko beat Kage) because our fanebases can’t seem to agree on ANYTHING lol. Great video, I thought the Kage were gonna win just off Hax but then I realized Big Mom exists
Akatsuki are in no way beating the warlords.
I’m so glad you’re not calling me bias bc Naruto or one piece didn’t win this video lmao thank you bro
@@Sage-2002 Yea, I've always believe both verses were at least somewhat relative and am a firm believer in Final Saga Oda uping the scale. Either way, it's just a hypothetical versus battle, and it can't change my opinion on how I feel about each anime regarding of any powersclaing so there's really no need to get worked up over a guy on the internet saying "Naruto's number higher than goku's so he wins", it's never that serious for me lol
Yall forget about genjustsu and sealing jutsus, how would the pirates counter it, I love one piece, bleach and naruto. So I'm not being biased, just legit curious Since they don't have Chakra, same argument about how they can't hit them without haki.
@@3lverGalarga Some high tier Genjutsu work without the presence of chakra, the answer is simply Conquerors Haki(or just strong armament since it's literally the manifestation of the user's will) because to break out of a Genjutsu you need to induce physical pain onto yourself(or have it done to you) or have an extremely strong psyche(extremely mental fortitide), which Conqerors Haki fully encapsulates so I think it would be a good defense(for everyone except Luffy's dumbass). I will play division advocate and say that hypnotism in One Piece is absolutely cracked, I'm not tryna explain all that but @Parvision has a great short explaining it.
Let's be honest shanks is enough to beat 5 kage
You could've just said "let's lie"
@@elijahedwards5360 but it's a fact
@@elijahedwards5360 Truthfully there were no lies told. That's not even wanking
@@nobody-6752 it's not
@@MrSkullkid15 it 100% is
Facts. The 5 Kage vs the Yonko’s First Commanders would be more fitting
Naruto solos all the Yonko tho 🥱
@alllenwellls naruto can't solo the yonko all at once he will loose against Prime beard, luffy, kiado and blackboard
@@OtsutsukiMelvynNo. Naruto no diffs. He just makes 1000 clones for each Yonko and then just sit back and relaxes.
Naruto solos the One Piece verse. Even the GOATs Roger, Primebeard, Prime Garp, and Rocks don’t stand a chance
@@alllenwellls you’re underestimating them because of all Yonkos teamed up for Naruto it’s the end of him
@@elzyofficial9087 Lol not even close. One SO6P clone for each Yonko is all Naruto needs to do. If Naruto wanted to be a dick and show off, he could make far more clones than that, but that wouldn't be necessary
@@elzyofficial9087I'm sorry but no he's actually right. Roger and WB can be scaled very equally to Hashirama and EMS/Rinnegan Madara. And SO6P Naruto absolutely DOGWALKS Hashirama and Madara at their best(ignoring 10 Tails Madara).
SO6P Naruto is literally taking out all Yonkos at the same time
Amazing vid
It seems like I'm going to be pretty unpopular for this but I think the Yonko take a hard L.
1. Oonoki and Gaara stopped a literal meteor. It would have probably did much more damage than gear 5 Luffy's bajrang gun could, therefore, oonoki should be able to handle Bajrang gun.
2. People talk about big mom's homies. Kage deal with elemental jutsu all the time. Lightning, fire, wind etc. Homies are no problem.
3. Even if their powers were equal, kage make a better team. Tsunade can heal, Gaara can long distance blitz you and so much more, Oonoki can fly but I admit that Kaido can too. A can speed blitz but I admit that future sight would help Kaido and Shanks deal with that.
4. Naruto characters are well past light speed. Kisaru is considered fast to one piece characters but would be slow motion for Naruto characters.
So yeah, I know many may view me as a villain for saying such things, but.... If you're going to make me a villain, please make sure I'm a really good one
1) youre using headcanon to justify why that meteor would cause more damage than bajrang gun
That bajrang gun is infused with acoc + boosted by elastic force + its weightless so luffy can punch it with ease
2) big mom can make the kage's jutsus as homies , not just fire and clouds
3) big mom can also heal using the life spans she had absorbed seen from her fight with law and kidd , shanks is already a great distance fighter by looking from his move , divine departure
4) pre ts zoro , luffy and sanji already had LS feats as well , also , kizaru isnt capped at SOL , oda stated devil fruits can be trained to their max potential , theres many scans showing kizaru amping his speed
Finally someone who doesn't lowball the Yonko speed. Most people put them at only FTL speeds even though pre-ts Straw Hats are dodging literal light in base forms. I have even see people argue that since Kizaru is a top tier and is considered one of the fastest top tiers that mean One Piece can't go much beyond lightspeed which is straight up false. I definitely think your ftl+ 45x LS is teetering a lowball since some calcs plus boosts have gotten the Yonkos to 1,800x LS based on a Zoro calc and then multiplying by boosts, but its definitely still a midball since its not less than lightspeed or just ftl speeds. Keep in mind this is the generation before current Yonkos as well and all the current Yonkos except Buggy have to be stronger just by default. Gear Fifth has already been proven to be massively stronger than Kaido as the debunks to say Kaido was weak against Gear Fifth have been debunked. We can assume that even with no feats the current Yonko have to be stronger (except Buggy) since they will be written to clash with Luffy eventually.
In the Naruto universe, the kage are not even in the top 10 most powerful characters, bar Naruto himself. In one piece, the Yonko are almost exclusively considered the strongest individuals that we currently know of. And the yonko we have seen go all out, i believe, are weaker than shanks, not sure about oldWbeard. We don't know much about shanks... *SPOILERS*
But we know he can see into the potential future, and we know he has attacks appearing to be on par with prime rogers.
I think kaido alone in dragon form, with his huge body and fire breath and all his hakis, vs the kage, wouldn't be too far off from the kage vs madara with 1 susanoo fight. You throw in Bigmom with her main homies, i dont even know whats left for shanks to do. Whitebeard just wants to be a part of the family they dont even need him, he cant even walk without his spear/walking staff. Im joking, but i dont see the kage as very competent fighters compared to the yonko, who are all real brawlers with hax abilities. I think its unrealistic for the kage to beat all four yonko and its really kind of cruel to gas them up so much. Its patronizing. Lol but a cool fight would be the kage and their armies vs the yonko with their crews. No allies, only officially enrolled members of those parties. Would have to define some characters specifically, and would need to pick a point in each timeline to keep consistency.
Facts if you’re not Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, or 8th gate Gai you’re no one in Naruto lmao
@@maxspecsobito, hashirama, kaguya, sage of six paths> 8th gates guy
We havent seen a single yonko go all out, kakdo wasnt taking luffy serious most of the time and barely used named attacks, also the fact that if he went all out he would destroy onigashima and he needs onigashima, same for BM she could easily destroy onigashima but they need it, we barely see anything from shanks who is basically featless and we saw old wb who was holding back because he didnt want to hurt his crew, primebeard during the fight against roger in odens backstory was holding back and so was roger, it was only a friendly fight
Also prime wb>kaido>shanks
@@Ewolzam Nah, Gai is the strongest. Word of god says so.
@sbthesage2100 Context of "World" does mean the planet of One Piece. However, I disagree to anyone that thinks that he would outright destroy the planet on some DBZ bs. Realistically it would make him Continental - Multi Continental (Moon level) given the way quake's work. It would infact not only wreak havoc on the society of the world but the planet itself... Which still wouldn't make him planet level. However if you take in the assumed size of the OP Planet then he could definitely get there.
What evidence is there white beard can create a quake this massive? And in what amount of time would it take for white beard to destroy the world this is literally never stated so anything after sengokus statement is pure headcanon
@@Sage-2002 Doesn't have to be stated so blatantly when the quakes were felt around the world. We call that CONTEXT
@@MrSkullkid15 that is not strong proof at all and the feat you’re talking ab is continental your context is garbage goofy
@@Sage-2002 You do know that Black Beard did the same, right? Vice Admiral Tsuru literally said that there would be no where to run, right?
"I could run to the *Ends of the Ocean* and *not find any safe haven* from this"?
That whole Arc is nothing but context. Downplay somewhere else! Obviously you're reading 2 Piece and a Biscuit, Homie!
@@MrSkullkid15 lmaooo black beard was sending tsunamis to Sabaody that did nothing while literally not knowing how to control the fruits power which would make his feats the more destructive then white beards lmao also tsuru saying she could flee to the ends of the earth dosenr mean he can destroy the planet idiot just means he can cause massive destruction with range in more than one area you know you would have to prove that the quakes can reach everywhere on the planet right you can’t assert it with no evidence? Other than a character statement ? Which is unreliable again without feats
Bro this a massacre. Kaido will crush them alone. This not fair.
12:31 "As the yonko vastly outclass the kage" *pulls up diagram of kage > yonko* like BRO
The fact that even fujitora the 2nd weakest admiral destroy them because if they can't move against fujitora's zushi zushi no mi they wouldn't stand a chance because literally could bring down a dressrosa sized maybe bigger asteroids also if they are paralyzed by the sheer force of gravity they will mostly end up 6'0 ft underground.
The problem that I see is that the 5 kages are too dependent of their unique ninjutsus to overcome the Yonkous in other unfamiliar ways.
Their way of fighting wouldnt work on Yonkous because the pirates are not only stronger but more balanced and experienced close combat fighters than them.
Also you forgot to mention the feat of base form Kaido surviving a fall from a Sky Island without any injury.
You're saying that sengoku is just saying he has the power to destroy the society, and you gave an example where that spandum asked if luffy can survive the world. Yet the entire world isn't with the world government, such as the land of giants which is the most powerful nation or wano or skypia. You see the issue with your point? Spandum and sengoku are talking about 2 different meaning of the word world. Literally after sengoku said that statement, why was oda showing panels of the planet getting affected? People who talks about this statement never care to mention what happens after the statement was said. That's how you can catch dishonest people. Read and get the full context, stop being lazy and just taking the statement because it's a popular statement people mention
Do you wanna debate me on this ? discord.gg/yWc5DYF8
@@Sage-2002 sure
@@Sage-2002 don’t waste your time. He’s a bum. Sengoku obviously meant he’d just destroy the surface over time and warp the planet. Only an idiot would believe Whitebeard could literally destroy the planet. One Piece fans so badly want to be in the power scaling scene that they practically just headcanon feats into existence.
If Prime Beard was planetary then that’d mean that Shiki, Garp, Sengoku, Roger, etc. Were all planetary which we know to very much not be true
@@akadenanderson3283 sorry I fell asleep just ping me in the server
The Yonkou are "God of Shinobi" Level, Like Hashirama, Madara, Prime Hiruzen and Minato, The 5 Kage, fighting then is not fair.
11:30 are you're telling me that meteor was moving at 40% the speed of light? What?
Bruh each Yonko dunks on Madara and Madra can dunk on all 5 kage at the same time. 1 Yonko wipes out all 5 kage, having all 4 is overkill.
🤡🤡🤡 nadara solos op verse
@@snowforest1998behave only ten tails Madara could solo 99% of the verse but obviously the main character of that story would clap him
@@elzyofficial9087 hell naw. Shanks OHKO's Madara off rip. Doing simple powerscaling, Law could destroy a WHOLE mountain range in Punk Hazard and that is equal to Madara destroying a whole mountain range with Perfect Susano. Law then gets a MASSIVE power boost in Wano and is relative to Kidd who also got a power boost in Wano. In the next arc, Kidd gets OHKO'd alongside Killer by Shanks despite their buffs which means Shanks would just speed blitz Madara and OHKO him before anything happens. Ontop of Big Mom stating that she needed the Giant Army to even contend with Shanks, on top of Buggy claiming Shanks should have already been the King of the Pirates in this generation, ontop of many other things. Madara doesn't win at all even if Madara is Jubi Madara, he still loses because he would have lossed to 8 Gates Guy and Shanks is stronger than 8 Gates Guy so even godlike Madara loses to Shanks.
@@snowforest1998 Madara doesn't even get pass Kidd and Law bro. Law dumpsters him hard because Law already accomplished madara's best feats several arcs ago before he got his Wano power boost. Now that he is post Wano Law, Law negs Madara. Shock Willie and Puncture Willie both OHKO him even in Perfect Susano and since Madara doesn't have haki, Law just uses Amputate and Madara can't do anything and Law isn't as strong as the Yonko which means that the Yonko upscale from that.
@@AnimeALXten tails madara is too much for any of them it's not close
I mean, Kaido fought nearly everyone at Onigashima (worst generation, Big Mom for a while, scabbards, ryou + g2/3/4/5 Luffy) with basically no breaks, all while lifting the WHOLE island several feets in the air (and for hours).
Shanks stopped that same Kaido from going to Marineford.
Big Mom rivalized with Kaido, have Napoleon, Zeus/Hera, Prometheus and can make more homies out of basically anything, can heal with them, heal them and can make herself even bigger.
Whitebeard literally can spam earthquakes, is like 9ft tall and tanked all that happened to him while being old and severely sick.
All of them with incredible speed, strenght and haki (all versions of it).
Just saying. 🤷
whitebeard is like 20 feet
whitebeard, during his era, was the strongest yonko, he would have been able to do a lot more at marineford if it wasnt for his age and someone named squard
Bro Madara 10 Tails Jinchuriki = Kaido + Another Yonko and the Yonko have the upper hand 😂
it would suck if a crossover happened and 1 use of haki takes all the 5 kage out lol
Technically you’re even lowballing a little for the Yonko. Specifically speed you can calc the luffy who fought kaido to MFTL+
What’s the clac
@@kidgoku3763 base luffy pre time skip dodges pacifista lazars which move at the speed of light, a feat he repeats in base post time skip. Gear 2 is a flat 5 times increase, and gear 4 is multiple times more than that. Bare minimum return to sabody luffy is 10x light speed, in wano luffy surpasses his gear 4 self in base on the rooftop. He can then stack gear 2 & 4 to get to bare minimum 100x and then gear 5 on top of that.
I swear newtons third law carried this whole video
The Kage get razed. It's not even a question. Having said that, I really like Ohnoki. Dudes abailities are awesome and the dude just doesnt die LOL He's a goat.
Once I heard hees not counting Naruto into this list I knew it was over for the kage.
I was using this as background noise until I heard, Shanks has defeated Kaidou? where Buddy?
U should be a fan of both versus to have an opinion bc then it won’t be bias u saying kakashi didn’t get any faster is actually a retorted statement
I’m not bias and am a fan of both series