Fun trick I've been using: patch a tanh channel into a _negative feedback loop_ to invert the effect. Turns it into an inverse-saturation / exciter, which is a really neat distortion that highlights the existing harmonics instead of emphasizing the fundamental. i.e. instead of rounding off the waveform's spikes, it exaggerates the spikes. Patch recipe follows: Negative feedback will determine the input necessary to get the tanh output to match your dry signal. To do this, you'll subtract the tanh output from the dry signal, which you can do with an inverting mixer. Patch the tanh output to the negative (subtracting) input of a mixer. Patch the dry signal to the positive input. Now patch the mixer's output (the difference) to both the input of the tanh (to complete the negative feedback loop) and also to wherever you want the wet signal.
My favorite way to use tanh: self patch it with stackcables in a feedback loop, using all three tanh units. You can get it to self-oscillate if you wiggle the knobs enough, and boy does it sound sweet. It’s also great with low level noise or trigger pings to excite it
GO physics PHD authority! I didn't know that, but I'm not a Physics PHD authority :) ... I did take it through A levels after school but nothing beyond that. Thanks for the info, appreciated.
Thank you for this. I picked one of these up about a month ago and had almost exclusively used it in fx feedback loops. You’ve given me so many ideas to experiment with. Cheers man 👍
I've had this module for 4-5 months now and I keep discovering new interesting way of using it... All of the tips you provide here are wonderful and I can't wait to try them out for myself :o Thank you!
A very simple, useful module that comes down to great circuit design. I've had one for about a year now and still haven't tapped all its uses. Great demo here full of inspiration. Especially love the patch with Rings and delay.
I find it interesting that it's not an exact tanh curve, the top half has some useful "error" to it. U can see it at 20:05 where the envelope starts getting a little extra bump after being clipped
As a Patreon supporter, I guess my appreciation is already known to DivKid but still I have to say thanks for the in-depth dive into Tanh. BTW, I'm watching this after it already had 2,371 views....if just half of these viewers were to throw a dollar/euro per month at Ben even for just a few months, it would probably go far in supporting these GREAT efforts! No, Ben did not pay me for this endorsement :)
Very Cool! I love the idea of this taming Feedback paths, nice touch with the Echoplex too. You should change your name to DivRock after that guitar performance haha. Ace Demo as always Ben!
quick tip about this that ben may have missed: the outputs are normalled down to the next input, so patch in the top and out at the bottom to triple e your pleasure with no extra cables!
I believe that changed in the second batch that they built and it wasn't part of the first run. Though I'll check, but I have some recollection of a conversation with Jason about that. Anyway, great tip to just run the single in and out and enjoy the channel chaining.
@@DivKid ah, yeah certainly could be the case! I didn't get mine until a couple years ago so it wasn't from the first run. Regardless I love the ideas you presented here especially with how they could relate to finer mixing techniques
I thought you had me on the ecoplex, but I cached up and didn't really fall before the sines and squares on the Øchd. Damnit : / The Night is not young and neither am I so will watch the rest tomorrow before you ruin an old mans sleep you bastards. That was yesterday.. "Never write things on youtube when drunk, Never write things on youtube when drunk, Never write things on youtube when drunk, Never write things on youtube when drunk, Forever and ever and ever ∞" Talking about horror, that image of you in a graveyard with a guitar is a great T-shirt or at least a perfect Halloween card or icon for your next Halloween special. But seriously, this module is such a great addition to Øchd. Only thing I missed with mine was sine and square, and they look good together to, like a blinking dancing floor next to some (art deco maybe) tiles. Another maybe is that I now should get one more Øchd and two Tahn now. Looking forward to an Ecoplex module to.
Nice, I took this out of my rack in favor of a Klavis Flexshaper (video pllzzzzzzzzzzz) which can do a lot of the same stuff with CV control. I think I might stick the tanh3 back in to try some of these patches, mixing in LFOs adds tons of possibilities.
Seriously though, I remember a lot of your old videos had a "read the manual in a monotone" kinda vibe, you've come a long way. Your videos on building block type modules like this one, or the stereo dipole, or anything from joranalogue are a huge asset to the community because of the sheer density of patch ideas, way beyond their value as an overview of a given module. They must take forever to make :)
I don't think thats a commercially produced module (would probably get nintendo pretty mad if it was lol) see it in a lot of videos about instruo stuff.
Fun trick I've been using: patch a tanh channel into a _negative feedback loop_ to invert the effect. Turns it into an inverse-saturation / exciter, which is a really neat distortion that highlights the existing harmonics instead of emphasizing the fundamental. i.e. instead of rounding off the waveform's spikes, it exaggerates the spikes. Patch recipe follows:
Negative feedback will determine the input necessary to get the tanh output to match your dry signal. To do this, you'll subtract the tanh output from the dry signal, which you can do with an inverting mixer. Patch the tanh output to the negative (subtracting) input of a mixer. Patch the dry signal to the positive input. Now patch the mixer's output (the difference) to both the input of the tanh (to complete the negative feedback loop) and also to wherever you want the wet signal.
I'm so glad I have this on the way right now. Got drunk and needed a 4hp module and chose this by way of eeny-meeny-miney-moe. Happiest accident ever.
Ha, so much kit is bought cos we’re too proud to use a blanking plate ;)
My favorite way to use tanh: self patch it with stackcables in a feedback loop, using all three tanh units. You can get it to self-oscillate if you wiggle the knobs enough, and boy does it sound sweet. It’s also great with low level noise or trigger pings to excite it
Instruo modules are simply beautiful across the board. I love that these were implemented on the inputs to the Arhbar and Lubadh as well.
I thought everyone knew it's pronounced "tanch". Physics PhD here. I speak from authority on this. \☆-☆/
GO physics PHD authority! I didn't know that, but I'm not a Physics PHD authority :) ... I did take it through A levels after school but nothing beyond that.
Thanks for the info, appreciated.
@@DivKid you will or will not redirect my authority!
will I? won't I? Can someone else make an authoritative decision on that so I can relay it back to people
You just write it illogically to confuse the enemy
I'm loving this new timestamp feature Ben! Thank you! Great video too.
Excellent, been waiting for someone to do this! I want to learn more!! Thank you!
Thank you for this. I picked one of these up about a month ago and had almost exclusively used it in fx feedback loops. You’ve given me so many ideas to experiment with. Cheers man 👍
Great trick placing it in the feedback loop to both drive and limit. And that guitar tone is crushing. Fantastic video as always. Thanks!
I've had this module for 4-5 months now and I keep discovering new interesting way of using it... All of the tips you provide here are wonderful and I can't wait to try them out for myself :o
Thank you!
A very simple, useful module that comes down to great circuit design. I've had one for about a year now and still haven't tapped all its uses. Great demo here full of inspiration. Especially love the patch with Rings and delay.
The shapes you manage to coax out of your Data are impressive in and of themselves. @14:00 for instance
was waiting for a video on this thing, I remembering reading the description and not having any demos like this and being insatiably curious
Hey! Aren't you the guy that made "spectator"? Great album, big fan!
Unassuming little module. Very nice!
5:01 - YESSSSsssss that sounded incredible!
I find it interesting that it's not an exact tanh curve, the top half has some useful "error" to it. U can see it at 20:05 where the envelope starts getting a little extra bump after being clipped
Mee too, already using it a lot and now even more! please more of those little creative tools!
Mixing in offsets/LFOs sound amazing. Thanks so much for this inspiration!
As a Patreon supporter, I guess my appreciation is already known to DivKid but still I have to say thanks for the in-depth dive into Tanh. BTW, I'm watching this after it already had 2,371 views....if just half of these viewers were to throw a dollar/euro per month at Ben even for just a few months, it would probably go far in supporting these GREAT efforts! No, Ben did not pay me for this endorsement :)
love this presentation ... the blababla drum is bonkers ;)
Thank you! This gives me more ideas about using mine. I may need to buy a second Tanh[3], because I'm moving it between cases too much.
The Echoplex feedback loop sounds so great
25:52 that reverb, man!
Excellent video
Very Cool! I love the idea of this taming Feedback paths, nice touch with the Echoplex too. You should change your name to DivRock after that guitar performance haha. Ace Demo as always Ben!
Thanks for the video mate. Hope you're doing well.
damn, tanh does wonders on guitar!
InstruO)))
quick tip about this that ben may have missed: the outputs are normalled down to the next input, so patch in the top and out at the bottom to triple e your pleasure with no extra cables!
I believe that changed in the second batch that they built and it wasn't part of the first run. Though I'll check, but I have some recollection of a conversation with Jason about that.
Anyway, great tip to just run the single in and out and enjoy the channel chaining.
@@DivKid ah, yeah certainly could be the case! I didn't get mine until a couple years ago so it wasn't from the first run. Regardless I love the ideas you presented here especially with how they could relate to finer mixing techniques
I thought you had me on the ecoplex, but I cached up and didn't really fall before the sines and squares on the Øchd. Damnit : /
The Night is not young and neither am I so will watch the rest tomorrow before you ruin an old mans sleep you bastards.
That was yesterday..
"Never write things on youtube when drunk, Never write things on youtube when drunk, Never write things on youtube when drunk, Never write things on youtube when drunk, Forever and ever and ever ∞"
Talking about horror, that image of you in a graveyard with a guitar is a great T-shirt or at least a perfect Halloween card or icon for your next Halloween special.
But seriously, this module is such a great addition to Øchd. Only thing I missed with mine was sine and square, and they look good together to, like a blinking dancing floor next to some (art deco maybe) tiles. Another maybe is that I now should get one more Øchd and two Tahn now.
Looking forward to an Ecoplex module to.
There is a nice tanh wave shaper in Bitwig studio's grid as well.
I like it a lot but would like a bigger more CV controllable alternative with similar sound. Any ideas?
Nice, I took this out of my rack in favor of a Klavis Flexshaper (video pllzzzzzzzzzzz) which can do a lot of the same stuff with CV control. I think I might stick the tanh3 back in to try some of these patches, mixing in LFOs adds tons of possibilities.
Seriously though, I remember a lot of your old videos had a "read the manual in a monotone" kinda vibe, you've come a long way. Your videos on building block type modules like this one, or the stereo dipole, or anything from joranalogue are a huge asset to the community because of the sheer density of patch ideas, way beyond their value as an overview of a given module. They must take forever to make :)
Nice, I've been wondering about a waveshaper.
I would say most of my colleagues (myself included) tend to pronounce the hyperbolic tangent function as "tansh".
nice work !
Ooh. RUclips supports chapter/index markers natively… lovely.
10:53 BLDLDLDLDL
what is the module on the left that is impossible to read? @ 13:50
It looks like a special edition of an Instruō
Tágh.
@@schtickkicker - yep, 'Legend Of Zelda' special edition. Jason only made a couple, now I know who got the other one!
The hyperbolic tanh function is pronounced "tansh".
Cheers Keith, I'll try to remember that one.
always luvly mr DivKid!
Your videos are really cool man. One thing though, can you let us know if these things are digital or analog?
It’s all analogue :)
Wondering if this would be good for taming the wild resonance of their io47.... I have a tanh but have only used it as a gain stage
Hi! What module did you use to plug in your guitar?
that was the Befaco Instrument Interface.
@@DivKid Thank you!
I need at least 2!
0:48 is some funny stuff.
Module to the left of the Mordax Data at 0:47?
looks like the instruo tagh with a custom faceplate
I don't think thats a commercially produced module (would probably get nintendo pretty mad if it was lol) see it in a lot of videos about instruo stuff.
What is that Sheikah eye Module?
i was wondering too.. pretty sure it's an instruo tagh with custom faceplate
which delay on 5.33?
that's in the video chapters and description. It's a Market Electronics Echoplex EP-3. It's a 1970s tape echo.
Where does one find those LED lit up patch cables? Google this is very difficult high-skill level!
I need eight, stat.
PWM