SO the offer an Al a Cart option for DLC, and your mad about it. Rather then charging DELUXE price for every copy? They offered a cheaper option for those that dont want the extras. And your acting like that is a bad thing.
honestly, i think the complaints about microtransactions are overblown. people are just complaining about it because they want to make the issue of bad optimization gain more coverage. now why do i think its overblown? well, most of them can just be bought in game. granted it is harder for some to get the premium currency than it is for others, mainly due to biases regarding certain types of pawns that are pretty much mandatory in the early game, but yeah. the only thing you cant really earn in-game is the music collection. secondly all of them are barely even a dollar in price, we're talking helldivers 2 levels of cheap. so its clear they're just using this to drag out the protest against the game, since mcx garners a lot more attention than bad fps issues.
Every studio has tried to justify the price hike to $70 by saying they don't have to release DLC to make up for it. Every $70 game released so far has had even more egrigious microtransactions than in the past. Yakuza 8's DLC and Persona 3 Reload making disc 2 DLC are the perfect examples.
To play devil's advocate, wasn't the main justification based around growing development costs, inflation etc? I don't recall seeing a dev saying they're doing it to mitigate MTX requirements.
@@DreadPyke Next to no games have physical releases that saves these company more than inflation times 10. In some case the manufacture of the game was in the end 1/4 to half the cost of the game shipping, manufacturing, and more cost have functionally been eliminated. There is no current day justification for paying 70$ buck more so with microtransactions and dlc.
@@DreadPykeIf their excuse is development costs, they could just oh Idk... don't inflate their dang budgets??? Why does something like Spider-Man 2 need to be $200 something million? This isn't GTA where they could get away with fat budgets like that.
What I hated the most is that Capcom knew the problems, still installed Denuvo, lied to the playtesters saying its an early build it is better at launch and then also for whatever reason removed the new game option. Like I dont get whats going on and why studios think they can just do things like this. They really want to ruin their reputation.
Why wouldn't they? They still made their money back and then some. Everyone gobbled it up, and they've had a long history of this. Monster Hunter World's Iceborne expansion ran so poorly that people were refunding to the point they were in danger of no longer breaking even- only THEN did they remove it. Don't even get me started on Street Fighter. And yet, with this history, people still bought this rather than waiting, and they will continue to preorder and buy on Day 1. So why would they ever bother NOT doing this? There is almost no financial incentive for them NOT to keep doing this.
Denuvo is the biggest scam for game developers. It doesn’t help their game sales despite what they think. Baldur’s Gate launched with no DRM and they made over a billion in cross-platform sales.
@@hellokatyfac3 Of course there’s a financial incentive to remove it. Otherwise, why do they always remove a couple months after launch? The amount of refunds due to performance issues FAR outweighs the handful of copies that get pirated.
Capcom has been doing this. They start doing good, but then their greed takes over and stupid runs amok. People really thought they were innovating with remakes and sequels? They were being lazy and it went to their head.
Nowadays buying an "early access" is pretty much like buying an Alpha build. Now it's becoming the norm that "buying on release" is buying a $70 beta build. I'll just wait another half year or so until the game is fixed, and then there's the Steam Winter Sale to pick this up for $25
@@ronsijm You shouldn't buy Blizzard stuff at all even after release. They done fuck up, they don't care about the people they employ what do you think they care about you? Beyond me how anyone can buy products of them.
You are right about a lot of games releasing in beta state. I do not get the comment about early acess though. Early acess was intended and presented for both beta and alpha stage games right from the start on steam. There have also been multiple games even from back when ea started that explicitly put the various alpha stages they plan on their roadmap on their storepage, and label builds 'Alpha xyz' in the games main screens. That has always been the case and intended, unlike the broken states a lot of games have on official release these days.
Don't buy day one. Don't even buy week one. Wait til the 2nd month, do your research, make a decision then. Don't be a slave to FOMO. Also, waiting fucks with their quarterly financials.
Those micro transactions would have been just cheat codes in the past where you could just spawn items. I can already see them making anti-cheat systems for single players game so that they can push those kind of micro transactions even further.
@@moebiusjdx7288 as if we don't have thousands of videos about games with much more creative ways to punish pirates without fucking over the paying customers.
@@moebiusjdx7288 if a purchase isnt equal to ownership (which in this case like any other game of our time it isnt) then piracy isnt theft. If i cant modify the files of my own video game especially a sibgleplayer game without having my purchase being revoked retroactively then i have every right to call it out for what it is, and its bullshit.
Complaints about micro-transactions are always justified, never let anyone tell you otherwise. I'm very glad the discussion has finally flared back up after years of critics being shouted down.
For sure, I hate the whole well they are in the game argument. If it’s in the game why is it even there they could just tell you to get it in the game.
All good games will ALWAYS sell. People will want the copy, people want to support good games. I know I have tried out many games first and bought them later. I'm gonna keep doing it like that.. This is the last time I got scammed like this and the last time I pre-purchased any game. I haven't been scammed on a early access game yet as I avoid those like the plague.
Why are you acting as if releasing a finished game is note-worthy just because the industry fell from it? There have been games doing this, but you cling to a AAA example? BG3 had bugs in Act 3 no one talks about, plus it was Early Access for how long? That's not the same thing as releasing a game after developing it, not making people pay for it while it's being finished. People move from one bad practice and point it at another.
That’s because they have no MTX which is the sole reason to have Denuvo on a single player game. Gotta prevent mods and trainers to get those items for free. Larian actually encourages mods.
On that note, Larian no longer wishes to work with Wizards of the Coast and there may not be DLC. Larian is legendary and has proven itself, but the greed of Wizards of the Coast has driven them apart.
@@rawr9349 idk larian literally said wizards of the coast had nothing to do with their decision to move away from dnd? I'm actually inclined to believe them on this Sven and larian have proven themselves pretty trustworthy :3.
One savefile per playthrough is a design decision we can agree or disagree with. One savefile as a whole is a design decision that's just objectively fu*king moronic. Quickly made some rando character to run around and test the performance, wanted to restart with a proper char, got a refund instead.
Comparing save files count to difficulty settings is apples to oranges. Being locked into one character is dumb there is no way to delete and start over in game. You can delete the save files on your drive but then you risk denuvo picking it up as altering the game files.
If you delete the save file apparently, Denuvo is tied to it and locks you out of the game eventually, as it considers each new save a new game activation. As if you installed the game on a new PC. At the very least, reinstalling the game to start over will trigger the Denuvo activation.
@@Sorain1 At least as they said at the end of the video, Capcom is working on letting you delete the save in-game. Stupid it's not there by default, but they probably didn't have time to work around Denuvo.
It was done so you would buy the metamorphosis item in game. Funnily, when I needed to reroll I was short of ryft crystals and still haven’t gotten enough to buy metamorphosis. Maybe I should buy the ryft crystal mtx? 😂. Seriously though, very slimy by some scumbag Capcom exec who wanted a new Ferrari.
I like how some people are defending it by saying it's only $2 per thing like we are so indoctrinated that now microtransactions being >actually< micro and not $20 is being a good take.
That's the Trick. Indoctrination is meant to make leniency for less devious-seeming greed-grabs. Tolerance means more wicked greediness slips in and cements itself as a norm.
really depends heavily on your cpu. The game is cpu bound from all accounts so it's possible people bust all their money on gpu and have a good enough cpu. Not saying optimization isn't bad but it could explain some performance issues
it's cpu dependent, the 4090 only lifts so much in the game. my 13900k with 4080 gives me the same performance as someone with same specs except they have a 4090. the optimization is truly buggered, but it's mainly due to how they coded NPCs, each one is processed and tracked by the CPU and its intensive as fuck. you kill all the npcs in render range and your performance will skyrocket.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the 4090 people running it on 4k? I imagine DLSS also fucks with the performance since from my understanding it utilizes the CPU while you need the CPU for other things in this game, so you could hit some issues because of this. It's probably also a case of people wasting their money buying that shiny 4090 while they run some cheaper CPU. Especially if they use Pre-builds, those are known to put the shiny GPU while ignoring other stuff.
@@AnInsaneTaco it explains why the game starts to turn into a slideshow for a few moments when you head into a city, I've been having a blast so far, but those performance patches can't come soon enough.
The save file design decision is indefensible, when your game is so buggy that your players can lose an entire 50+ hour playthrough because they accidentally fall into a crevice they can't get out of because of all the unfriendly geography - which is normally fine... when you can reload to a previous save lol. Design decision? So their design goals are to waste player time, great.
@@Akakiryuushin You can disable honour mode at any point, your playthrough can never be legitimately ended by a poorly timed auto save lol. Its also not the default save system, its a mode you elect into. That's not even mentioning the Inn Rest System, which if some poor soul happens to not have rested for a long time and loads the inn save, the game immediately autosaves and deletes potentially tens of hours of progress. That's not game design to be applauded or encouraged, its just anti-consumer.
@@Akakiryuushin Yeah. Cause CHOOSING a mode that restricts your save slots is exactly the same as capcom restructing it to one so they can sell you more. Like life as a fluffer, eh.
There don't need to be "paid reviews". If you're getting access to a game early, maybe at some fly-in event where everything is paid for to boot, you give a good review. If you don't, you don't get invited to the next one. Thus the industry selects for reviewers that give good reviews without even needing to be paid.
They wanna only have 1 save file, it's stupid, but whatever. Them not having a way to start a new save is another thing, though. It is unacceptable for a modern game not to have that. Video games figured that shit out over 30 years ago how the fuck did they not
"The is not what Dragon's Dogma 1 deserved." My. MAN. Dragon's Dogma 1 launched with literally the even worse frame rate and literally the same microtransactions. This is par for the course. And just like back then the microtransactions are completely inconsequential because the items and currencies in game aren't balanced around them being buyable.
And that is how it should STAY. but unfortunately if they get enough people buying them they will argue that it's what " customers want" and will get worse. It's how mobile games came around to free to play and look at all these extra items you don't need but it speeds up gameplay and you get ton " play" more.
Sadly I've come to the point i will NEVER touch a full+ priced game with micro transactions, there is absolutely no good argument for selling a 70$ game and have micro transactions in the game aswell, added with the knowledge and prior experience we have that ones there in an ingame store more things like "time savers" are more often than not added later when the worst critic has died down
@@bousch8253 i would love to hear your definition of "slim" because I can boot up Steam and find the first 1000 games still at 60$and without a cash shop in under 5 min
@@bousch8253 Then our money STAYS in OUR WALLETS and not in the hands of greedy corporations who feel entitled to it. My choice is to not fund the greed. I have always hated greed for greed's sake. doubling your revenue each quarter to appease gamblers who cough up millions to fund ideas is not something I give a damn about and refuse to pay for. I still work, I still pay rent and I still live: my hobby can wait for as long as needed as it is a luxury.
@@ZeroXSEED That is wrong, deunvo does not do anything to mods, its for anti-piracy. if your save is being bricked, its due to you using something extreme.
I run a 4070 with a i5-13400F. I run the game at 1440p. It runs stable 60fps everywhere except the cities where it drops to an unstable 40. Not enough to destroy the game for me but noticeable for sure. The CPU intensive stuff paired with the Denuvo DRM is going to tank systems. Hope they address this.
I have a 4080 laptop with a pretty good amd cpu.. been getting about the same fps-wise, no crashing at all. with a good rig the game is absolutely playable but the performance on lower end systems is absolutely a problem that needed to be addressed. As a game though, DD2 is amazing, I feel like if I waited I woulda missed out coz all my friends are also playing it and really loving it.. it comes down, I think, to how much of a fan you are of the original DD and your tolerance of jank and some odd design decisions. It is most certainly not a game for everyone.
@gman7497 I'm on a 4070 with i9 and half the textures don't load? Tried re-verifying steam files and redownloading twice. Nothing helped. Charged back my card for fraud
Oh get over yourself, every singleplayer RPG has a collector's edition with extra novelty items that have a very tiny gameplay impact, yes even your beloved BG3. That's all this is, they just listed the collector's edition items separately as well. You can only buy them once, it's not like they monetized actual in game commodities.
@@Talking_Ed And not all Capcom game have long list of MTX on day 1 . People keep saying DMC always have MTX but they fail to mention DMC before 4 didn't have MTX , DMC 4 only have Orb MTX while 5 have Orb and even longer list of MTX including 1 that make a weapon combo much better . " Capcom game always have MTX " but no one compare the scale between THEN and NOW . People can only tolerate much stuffs be4 the bubble burst , if game is good or revolutionized , people are likely to forgive if there are MTX , but DD2 doesn't have that , a buggy mess on day 1 , lack of QoL , double layer of intrusive anti-cheat , a long list of MTX right out of the gate and recent AAA game generally terrible ensure people gonna get angry .
@@kampfer91 Yeah because DMC3 was on the PS2 which didn't have online access except for Japan iirc. And DMC4 mtx are like 100 times worse than Dragon's Dogma. People are not forgiving DD2 because they're not even playing the game instead they're just spreading missinformation on social media. MTX in capcom games literally got better and the games are not influenced at all by them but I guess y'all people can't form an original opinions so what can we do.
@@Talking_Ed why not compare between DMC 4 and DMC 5 instead nutjob . And it got better ? No it is got worse , before you pay money to get a bundle with multiple armor , now you pay the same thing to get a single use item or stuffs that directly benefit you like reviving or fast travel . Same case as DMC , be4 they only sell Orb , then in DMC 5 they got the one that give better combo . in MH they even had a poll that asked if people are ok with single monster battle pass . They will escalate this shiet cus people keep saying " it is not matter " and silent whale buy it .
There are so many games in my backlog and I’ve been burned to many times to buy games at launch. Of you’re a single player gamer save yourself the trauma of new releases and dip into that back catalog of games that probably run fine now. We need to stop rewarding these companies that launch unfinished trash.
This game costs $100 CDN here base cost. I wouldn't pay $100 for Baldur's Gate 3 and that has far more content to it. They then weakly stick out a shaky little pasty mitt and ask me to pay them to change the look of my character, which is just a database entry, for another $4. I passed. Lots of great games out there to still play, and I'll get this thing in a few years when it's far cheaper and patched to a generally working state.
Im still seeing the games are being released 80% cooked and we are suppose to pay more then we have in the past? Didn't we get tired of having the wool pulled from in front of us?? Like then we get tired of it when they were $60?
Capcom would never admit that the double DRM the game has is affecting performance even if it is. I want to see what the cracked version looks like comparatively, and then I can believe them. But I think the reason Capcom is getting so much from both ends this time around is because the game is $70, and the performance and save file things are so annoying.
You see, the NPC problem is much bigger. On the PC, even the best desktop CPU on the market, NPCs appear and disappear in front of the player. That was a decision probably made last minute to lessen the CPU load. But that also means Capcom KNEW that the game has major CPU problems and still released it. Then the DLCs with content you can get easily ingame, but Capcom didn't tell reviewers about the DLCs to create fake FOMO in order to get people to buy the DLCs after release, the deluxe edition is part of that.
These days I always wait 6 months to get a game on PC, buy it at a big discount AND with performance/bug fixes! I just finished Jedi Survivor last month and it was pretty good. At least worth the $30 price tag.
6 months later the denuvo is usually gone too. In this case that is likely enough to be able to play the game smoothly. Even without their fixes and patches.
People who think Capcom redeemed themself might want to rethink that statement. I mean, the moment they start milking Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, and Resident Evil, isn't it kinda obvious?
Breaking off aspects of well established game series that used to be in it and reselling it to you as microtransactions and incentivizing you to purchase it by intentionally harming the user experience. The cherry on top being some of the more short sighted of those users defending the company’s right to screw them.
You: : buy the game just don't buy the MTX Corporations: we had the MTX in the last game and people still bought the game. Put them in the next one too, but let's make them a little more predatory. You deserve what you tolerate.
MTX in capcom games have always been useless, it's been 15 years, they just add it to make the shareholders happy but there's never anything useful in there
Havent pirated a game in 12 years... In a full priced- ... oh wait, overpriced 70! dollar game, I am not gonna support the MTX BS even being there. "Just ignore it" is what got us to this BS in the first place. Then you have BS like Ubi and games designed around the MTX. I am sticking to AA/Indie and any AAA will be snatched from the seas under the black flag...
How? Empress hasn't cracked a game closing in on a year now and was the last and only denuvo cracker. With out empress you are looking at 0% denuvo cracks... Quite literally denuvo has potentially won the long game and there will be no more denuvo cracks. If that's the case every game will be denuvo going forward.
@@Lowlightt wut? because not every game has fucking denuvo? it's a minority.... and she only cracked it because someone paid her a shitload of money for it..... fork up some cash and offer it to skidrow or codex or rune or any of the other myriad cracking groups if you're that worried about it lol the only game i've missed recently was persona and one other that i can't even be bothered to remember.... literally every single other AAA and AA game i've wanted to play in the last 2-3 yrs+ (up to and including yesterday) i have been able to pirate without any issue, sounds like a skill/knowledge issue.
The fact they were *"cowardlly"* enough to wait until after reviews to release their monitization, shows not only was this intentional, its even worse than releasing them day one with the game. Its a scummy duplicitous decision that will result in overall loss in sales. Yes, they already sold millions, but they would have sold more if they didnt do this. But we know they dont care. They've highlighted this more elequently than we ever could. I don't usually swear, but fuck Capcom and their scummy decisions, and the clowns who defend this.
Capcom should fire the used car salesmen that they have running the show. Hire professional game developers to run the show and not the hacks they currently employ. But on the plus side. Dear Billionaires, they are a metric ton of great developers out there that are looking for employment. Game development is a multi-billion dollar industry that is currently being run by morons. If you want to make some money, go for it. We will give you our money if you make a great game.
Every industry has competent professionals in it. Corporations choose the shoddy salemen because they make money on stock manipulation and shareholders rather than consumers… people need to stop buying trash in order for them to take a financial hit when they release trash. Some industries like medical care are at the mercy of regulation and monopolies, but gamers need to smarten up and do whats needed to protect the games they love.
The billionaires are the type of person demanding these microtransactions. You think they got that rich by NOT extracting every last cent from their customers and employees?
@@GnarledStaffWon't happen, the current state of the gaming and automotive industries are perfect examples of the bell curve in action. "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." -George Carlin
Wouldn't work you need executives to run a huge corporation, most talented Devs wouldn't even want to be executives, if you want a game were Devs have managerial control buy indy
I remember when free to play games started with micro transactions. It made sense to fund the game with these transactions but why in a single-player $60-70 game?
Could be the best game ever in the last thousand years. Given Capcom and their hard line against modding, means, I will have nothing to do with this game, or any others they put out, past or present.
I recommend the no weight and selling for 10x more. Also you can create more accounts with family share. Just make some bogus steam accounts and add them to your friendlist, activate family sharing. Then you can use your own pawns even. That's how I did it with dragon's dogma: dark arisen. I did hire pawns as well at times, when levelling or when I needed something special. Not that it mattered that way as you could just cheat engine RC and gold or whatever. It was a game you owned!
What Dragon's Dogma 2 did for me was show me that Monster Hunter Wilds went from a day 1 buy to I'll probably get it after a couple months. I'm far beyond disappointed. Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate has clearly been spoiling players. This was a strong reminder that you shouldn't buy games day 1 as you get an inferior product for being an early adopter. Capcom should be paying me for being a QA tester smh.
@@wardy4903 "minor glitches" my ass, ER released with an entire stat (Arcane) completely bugged and unable to scale making several builds in the game useless (and of course players had no idea until they started investing). Several classes in an rpg being worthless for a week is not minor issue
Wish I could up this comment 10 times. I will always remind myself of this game when any triple fail studio is gonna release a new game. I will wait the 6 months. Heck I should just wait 3 years or so as it will make buying computers cheaper and everything! So what If i am three years behind? Unless it's a MMO it won't matter.
It was going to be a 50% off buy for me just for the $70 price tag. THEN the rest of it hit and its a hard pass entirely now. I have plenty of games I can be playing instead, not missing a damn thing.
Capcom have been on this for a while. Monster Hunter World/Rise, Devil May Cry 5, and Exoprimal all have terrible looking microtransactions, but can be safely ignored and offer loads of in game unlockables.
Still not OK, though. With these types of MTX, they're selling us something that we get anyway, so that's a scam, or the items have value and are either unavailable or difficult to obtain in-game, which is exploitative. I would actually say Capcom is guilty of both since while most of them can be easily garnered in-game, the portcrystal is additional to the ones available and they are a scarce resource as is
They’ve been doing this for more than a decade. Dragon’s Dogma had similar micro transactions when it came out back in 2012. It’s a bad practice, but the silver lining is that the mix in the game are practically useless.
@@davidmurphy7332 I agree that it's not OK, and I wish Capcom wouldn't add this trash to otherwise great games. That said, I'm not going to deny myself said games since ignoring the microtransactions still leaves a full game with plenty of unlockables.
After pre-ordering 2077 and Cities Skylines 2, I really hesitated a little on pre-ordering this until the very last second (and didn't pre-order). Now I will never hesitate again.
*SAVE FILE* is so that they (potentially) get more sales. Reason? *NO* other person in your household can play the game (on their own play through). This (in my view) means that you do not own the game / It is not yours, (If I can not let a family member play it, then I do not own it)
@@Jinxyoutoheaven All of them have said this, we know there was an embargo, and that so far two channels have said the kit they received did come with the MTX information, but they thought it wasn't worth mentioning as they wouldn't buy it. Because the review was for their audience...in the end it seems they were all bought in a way and thought MTX was such a norm it didn't matter, or that they wouldn't be called out for not mentioning something they were told not to mention or lose access.
I didnt preorder because of RE4 nonsense and its capcom but I did buy day one which I quickly refunded because of my friend warning me about the 1 save slot and only 3 character edits one being a micro. I expected yea there will some dlc later for the other missing vocations a chunk of map or something not this crap. I may completely shelf capcom like EA and UBI this is getting real old.
The fact that some people out there are parroting some version of 'This 2024 product can run well at 30fps if you scale it down! whats are you bitching about?' is honestly completely wild to me. If your action game can't run at 60fps, even if it has to look like dogwater, I don't think it's a good product. Yeah, there are some games where it truly doesn't matter but c'mon, action games? We've had 60 as a baseline for so many years now... anytime you encounter 30 it feels like shit. Basically, telling me DD2 works at 30fps is tantamount to telling me it's shit. Don't praise that, that's not even the quality floor... that's the basement. Anyways, it'll be cracked soon enough and it'll probably a better more stable version. Capcom can blow me.
Considering some studios can put their foot down and some don't. At what point are we allowed to be mad at both the publisher and the developers? I'm getting a little sick of trying to keep deflecting all the blame and accountability, and yes, if a game has atrocious monetization you are 100% allowed to include that in your rating and imo its criminal if you are a reviewer and ignore that aspect.
@@comyuse9103 Yea, they also made sure to include gameplay mechanics that potentially slaughter your whole town to make sure you need more rez stones than you can reasonably get. That is not putting your foot down.
I just love that modders instantly just put vendors in game to sell these. Why single player micro transactions make no sense, they need to make actual expansions, new classes etc.
People acting like Capcom is just selling a few in- game items are ignoring the fact that you can also purchase RC. Buying RC allows you to hire much higher level pawns more frequently, which obviously makes the game easier. It's not just a ferrystone, etc.
I refunded Dragon’s Dogma 2. Was not really feeling it, the performance was terrible, and the micro-transactions for a single player $70 game are unjustifiable.
The developers sure did do a great job, which is why Capcom pays them. The question for the consumer is whether they think it appropriate to pay Capcom for the end product, warts and all. People tend to forget this because it's not intuitive, but paying for a game doesn't mean you're supporting the developers, just that you're giving money to a publisher in exchange for a product. Consumers don't get to pick and choose how their money is distributed, so people choosing to buy Dragon's Dogma financially support Capcom's monetization schemes just as much, if not more, than they do the work of the creatives and developers.
Part of the backlash is that several content creators who received the microtransactiin list decided not to mention them at all, and then defend that decision. They're either protecting their exclusive coverage at worst, or making incomplete, sub-par reviews at best.
They are the equivalent of buying in-game gold... literally have no impact on the game, unless you want to buy a ton of port crystals and ferry stones just to fast travel. fast travel was limited in the first game also so it's not like it being limited now is any surprise
@@cosmicanomaly3416You can also buy RC, which allows you to hire pawns that are much higher levels than your own character. This obviously makes the game easier, so no, it's not just a few in- game items.
Then they are noob traps/FOMO scams. Even if they are useless trash, the fact that they are packaged in a way to prey on people wanting what seems to be the full package. Many of whom may not watch reviews to be forewarned, or only watch 1 person at most
@@SkellyHertz ohh you poor soul... don't tell me you expect games to cater to every single individual? Also, why is this game a big deal to you? You make it sound like we're talking about diablo 4 or those mobile gacha games meant to scam kids off their parents savings? We're talking about dragons dogma. A single player game where you can buy the full game without having to purchase any add-ons.
if a publisher required to me to add microtransactions just because, but as a dev I don't want to do it, that's how I would do it. Add useless microtransactions adding things that is already on the game making the microtransaction useless. just to say it have microtransactions and the executives shut up
Yeah, pretty much. It feels like this is some kind of contractual demand made by a suit that has zero passion for gaming. The design team then maliciously complied by creating worthless MTX content.
Well the publisher is going to have to explain to investors why a lot of us are now waiting for a steep sale price. Of course they won’t take blame for it. No, it will be the single player mode that’s the blame.
PSA: Dragons Dogma 2 deletes your manual save if you happen to click "load from last inn rest". Yes, I'm one of the many people that lost hours of progress because of this lame feature. They could at least let us keep the manual save least until we overwrite it. Then I would have just loaded in and out again to my manual save and no harm would have been done. Geez... 10+ hours of progress lost. I do not recommend this game.
I didn't think it would have microtransactions. I was exited for it and pre-ordered it. A couple days ago when I found out it has microtransactions I requested a refund. Hopefully, since I haven't played it yet, I can get my $$ back
worst part it is people that make greedy corporations like Capcom part of their personality trying to defend these practices. Just because they are unnecessary does not make them good. They are bad, they make the game worse and they absolutely impact game design. Just because they didn't do an Ubisoft maximizing the impact does not mean it did not impact it. The same way that just because the published is a p.o.s. does not make the devs bad. But using your brain to separate these issues is hard work. "And I don't like doing hard work"
9:20 Boycotting the game is a terrible idea. Dragon's Dogma 2 is Itsuno's baby. He was fighting for years so Capcom would finally let him do the sequel he wanted, following his vision. What we should boycott are just the microtransactions, like you said. Make our voice be heard to Capcom stop trying to pull an EA.
On top of all the shenanigans the single save file just comes off as cheap. I fail to see how preventing me from having multiple characters does anything other than limit the time I'll spend playing your game.
Having a single save file, early launching the character editor, and having those mtx was on purpose and is worse than other mtx. This idea that lead devs can't push back against this stuff is hot garbage. They are just as complicit, the dev innocent narrative is bullocks.
The performance and micro transactions issues are really over shadowing some of the fundamental problems with the actual gameplay. The poor pawn AI, the knock down (basically a stun lock) mechanic and the timed revive are bigger issues imo. No one wants to talk about these though, as they invoke less drama and clicks.
I love how dd2 and BG3 are basically complete polar opposites of what each game represents. Like every feature that's available as a microtransaction in DD 2 is available for free in Baldur's Gate III and was either in the game at launch as part of an intended feature or added in through a FREE update patch.
Every time this happens, you can be assure that the marketing team and the sale team is involved. I still remember back in the day those 2 teams are created to help selling the product made from the game dev department, not dictate what game dev should be doing in their game.
Wrong, they got exactly what they deserve. It's about time people got tired of MTX, let alone in full-priced titles. Dude says, "Don't let these microtransactions stop you" attitude like this are the problem.
What a dishonst take. What was wrong with the MTX exactly. The full priced game is the DELUXE edition and it came with the MTX included, so you dont have a point if that was your argument.
@@braddl9442 I've noticed a number of these comments from you on this video with similar statements. Are you really this obtuse or just paid to be so? Also, your claim that the original poster doesn't have an argument is false.
@@braddl9442 They limited the character customization items to 2, for the entire game, and then put them up as MTX. How do I know this? As they are rapidly back pedaling, they have announced they will be upping those metamorphosis items to 99 in the up-coming patch. That's what was wrong with the MTX. Locking, or limiting, core elements of the game behind MTX. They are also back pedaling on the save system. The score was deserved. Gamers need to take back the space, and hold greedy ceos and corporations accountable for their nickle and dime schemes. You might not think it's much, a few dollars here, or there, but that is how they get you and change the culture. Incrementally. A centimeter here, or there. Then one day you will be looking at 100 dollar games and you have to pay for the privilege to have even one save, and you will wonder how the fuck that happened.
Two decades too late. The time to fight this hard or harder against them was every game that had them since the horse armor thing. People generally ignored them until recently, now that it's too late to expect fighting against them to do much of anything. Also, where was the backlash for Devil May Cry 5, Monster Hunter, the original Dragon's Dogma on consoles, Helldivers 2, FF14, and many many more? I do realize Helldivers 2 and FF14 aren't Capcom games but they still have micro transactions and those are either just as bad or worse.
Regarding Denuvo, it does cause performance issues. It varies between games and implementation, but it does effect it. That being said, it's mostly just Capcom's fault in this case, but Denuvo doesn't help matters since it is also hitting the CPU.
It's not micro transactions. Its actually categorized as DLC. Why is this different? You can only buy each one once. So, outside of its optimization issues. I don't see many issues. Console, almost no issues to speak of. It's almost the opposite of Cyberpunk 2077. CP2077 was well received on PC/Steam. But destroyed on console where the optimization sucks. That said, I see 1 in 10 complain about the optimization. Most complain about micro transactions.. which are not really a thing in this game. Its single purchase items that you can get in game easily.
Honestly, who cares about the MTX?!?! They have absolutely NO effect on the game if you choose to not buy them. They've convenience, get over it. A port crystal and a revive stone. Just save more often and use ox carts. Now, the performance issue on PC does piss me off. I have a really good computer with a 3070 and a great 5700x CPU. There's no reason I should be getting 15 fucking FPS in town at 1440p.....
Thanks for the shout out to the Cities Skylines 2 devs who were done so dirty by the publisher, they really didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus like that
@@MrMpa31 Funny how the devs were warning people before launch that the game was not ready yet and has serious performance issues, and have been working on the game nonstop even after launch. Even despite the literal death threats they have been receiving
What’s infuriating is the misinformation that’s being spread about the micro transactions. Not a single one is necessary to obtain any success in the game, and all of the items (save for a stupid necklace that will raise affinity - can be done with in game items). Yet I hear so much whining about P2W. Rift crystals are meant to be spent on pawns in later playthroughs when you are sitting on piles of them, but people complained so much that they added packs you could buy in Dark Arisen. We keep having sequels come out and getting bashed by hate bandwagons when people don’t even have half of the information correct to begin with.
Ok you clear misinformation, now we understand Capcom is praying on casuall players with no knowledge about it. That's a pass for know I buy it for 40 $ after they fix performance because company who treat customers like that don't deserve more.
@@alexandermccabe556 the ones people are the most upset about were added to the original game over a decade ago and were only added because of whining/complaining. In my head, they just killed two birds with one stone and anyone with an untrained eye just sees a new shiny thing to hate.
@@HalloweenSurfboard well just because it makes sense in your head doesnt mean it is reality also them being in the ps3 version of the game most people didnt play doesnt suddenly make it okay here
A decade ago we knew that microtransactions were bad. Now it's "They're not required, so they're fine." I bet these same people paid $120 for the Starfield early access while also being subscribed to Game Pass.
@@thanos43infinity Kinda like a LoZ game in this regard. The Cycle Repeats again, and again, and again, and again. Some things change while others reflect the past
What micro transactions? Yea they’re there, but it’s like a commercial, ignore it. Remember when tv had commercials? You don’t have to buy those products.
right, My issue is the fast travel, character customization menu, and the pay too win elements. DO NOT buy this game. if we keep making allowance for this kind of BS monetization. eventually it WON'T be optional. remember. a game dev wanted you too pay too reload your gun. if capcom can get away with that kind of monetization. then they will. say NO too this BS.
Fast travel is a last resort in this game for gameplay reasons and the character change book can be bought in game in the city for almost nothing. You guys chose the wrong capcim game to start being precious about mtx
Literally everything offered can be acquired in-game easily including the fast travel system. Yes,. the store is cheesy and unnecessary but actually do your research before criticizing.
The slippery slope argument is dying on this hill bud. This game contains the same mtx that was in the first DD game. And yet it's even easier to obtain those items in DD2 than the first. Meaning after 10 years rather get worse it's stayed the same or technically got less worse. That's kinda the opposite of a slippery slope.
@@Lowlightt then don't come whining to me when your all having to buy qaulity of life items with real life money in the future. you did it too yourself.
players looked at RE4 mtx list: meh, not worth buying them players looked at DD2 mtx list: HOW COULD CAPCOM ADD MTX TO A SINGLE PLAYER GAMES!!?? I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS! this drama is bizarre
@@Tiwill both is singleplayer, both have mtx, both is from capcom. What kind of standar do you need to say RE mtx is "okay" but DD2 is suddenly game breaking? Oh yeah it's called Double Standard
@@banyanyas839 Speaking for myself, I didn't care to complain about RE4 remake because it's not my kind of game. Doesn't mean I approve of it in that game. Maybe RPG enjoyers simply have higher standards. Maybe gamers have higher standards now than they did last year. Isn't that a good thing?
@@Tiwill if their standard come from their own will then i will respect it, but the more i read about the complain the more i realise most of them didn't buy/try the game. They just did it just because youtuber/streamer says it was bad, it's just a bad attitude i say.
1080/60 being standard was something TotalBiscuit, may he rest in peace, was talking about almost a decade ago, and the fact games still release in such a state is... Mindboggling.
Capcom puts these type of literal nothing idiot bait micro transactions in all their games, hell they were in the first dragons dogma, and now it’s a problem? 😂
"Hey I shouldn't be at fault because I'm too lazy to read." Is all I'm hearing from some of these people. Are we really at the point where setting aside 30 minutes to read a document so you and play a game is too much to ask?
here's my question. what do these people who are boycotting/attacking DD2 about mtx actually think is going to happen? do they think if a game fails due to mtx the people who are in charge of the money will look at why it failed? because if you think thats the case you're actually delusional if you think it will help. they will just see it didnt perform, scrap any future plans and move on to the next with mtx still in it. all you may accomplish if ending franchises, cool game mechanics for future games. you think you are fighting for better games but realistically you are doing the opposite. the best way to fight mtx is to just not buy them in the games. its straight up that simple.
It is very easy to not buy games from companies that do this. There are 1000s of other games out there, the choices are endless. And i don't see a need to separate the Studio from the Corporation, they are one and the same. Want your game Studio to succeed, don't take the easy money knowing who the corporation is.
When I was a kid I had the original D&D boxed set, before AD&D. It had a different feel to any other pen and paper since. It’s difficult to describe but I lived in the mountains and as I hiked the trails back in the 80’s as a little kid my imagination would run wild. Dragon’s Dogma 2 is as close to any video game has ever come to making exploring a mountain trail feel like a real place and it’s got some gaming mojo. Ignore the over hyped controversy. It’s a hard RPG if you want but I’d never fast travel. I’ll hike these trails for 100’s hours. Bravo Capcom. Its day night cycle is so good; spelunking is so atmospheric and immersive; the combat is hilariously fun.
If you like the game but dont want to support Capcom with Denuvo or microtransactions, just pirate it. You will get a drmless version, capcom will not get money for their atrocious MTX and you can enjoy the game. Otherwise, just wait for a sale. Buying the game now will only say you accept whatever shit capcom does to you.
The performance issues are inexcusable, but at least for me, the DLSS framegen mod helped immensely. Even in the main city, my fps is pretty decent now with max settings and raytracing at 1440p. It's a shame, because DD2 is probably my favorite game in a long, long time. I've had so much fun just getting lost in the world, finding quests and outcomes that are easily missed, doing cheeky things with various game mechanics, and trying different builds. I really hope the game does well enough to get an expansion in the future.
Based on the £36 of paid micro transactions this game shipped with, i no longer bought it ss intended, and will not buy it until it is at lesst £36 off on sale. The company can lose the amount it tried to force from me
A lot of people had complaints about things like fast travel, getting RC, and other things in the last game. Capcom’s solution was to add extra system to exacerbate the problem and sell the solution to those complaints as DLC. “Nobody complained about other games.” MH updated their combat system and added new ways to move around the map to make it quicker. Then sold mostly cosmetics in their store. They didn’t add omnidirectional movement, the slinger, faster overall movement to the shop as DLC. “Other games from Capcom” is not an argument. The problem is the way they’re ramping it up. Going so far as to take the complaints from the previous games, make it worse, then try to capitalize on it. That’s not just selling the solution. That’s adding to the problem to sell the solution. Capcom actually skipped a rung on the ladder toward more aggressive monetization. It’s been clear they’ve been prodding for ways to monetize their games further and further over the years. It’s always a problem that historically, only gets worse. It’s very clear that the Capcom cultists are taking the wrong context out of this argument. I can’t say for sure if it’s purposely done or just blind fanaticism. You keep saying we didn’t have a problem with it before (Which is patently false), but thinking back on the progression and the ways they’ve tried, and failed (SF midgame ads….. lmfao) I should’ve said something because history hasn’t lied when it comes to this and it’s becoming obvious Capcom is moving toward more aggressive monetization. So yeah, you’re right. We should always stand up against it. Cosmetic only or not. History doesn’t lie. It ALWAYS gets worse.
As an outsider to DD, the save system totally turns me off. And then there's performance, and the relevant concern that micro-transactions reflect game design intended to frustrate a player. $70? The market is saturated with fantastic titles, new and old. A pretty easy and reasonable pass for me.
Ya, a lot of people can't resist the urge to grab the newest thing just because it's the newest thing. It's fine if they're enjoying themselves but, for my money, I want a feature-complete game that respects the artistic integrity of the medium and doesn't have performance issues.
The MTX didn't influence the game design for sure. With how trivial basically the stuff they sell is to get, it shouldn't have any measurable impact of any gamer a tiny bit serious about playing the game. Also the exact same MTX was in DD1 at release and the Rift Crystal earning seems kind of faster in DD2 than DD1, so it's even less of an issue for the current game.
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SO the offer an Al a Cart option for DLC, and your mad about it. Rather then charging DELUXE price for every copy? They offered a cheaper option for those that dont want the extras. And your acting like that is a bad thing.
honestly, i think the complaints about microtransactions are overblown. people are just complaining about it because they want to make the issue of bad optimization gain more coverage. now why do i think its overblown? well, most of them can just be bought in game. granted it is harder for some to get the premium currency than it is for others, mainly due to biases regarding certain types of pawns that are pretty much mandatory in the early game, but yeah. the only thing you cant really earn in-game is the music collection. secondly all of them are barely even a dollar in price, we're talking helldivers 2 levels of cheap. so its clear they're just using this to drag out the protest against the game, since mcx garners a lot more attention than bad fps issues.
My problem with the microtransactions is that the reviewers knew about them before release and they all chose to hide them.
Down voted for bringing up shillup.
Have to give you a down vote for bringing up Shillup.
Every studio has tried to justify the price hike to $70 by saying they don't have to release DLC to make up for it. Every $70 game released so far has had even more egrigious microtransactions than in the past. Yakuza 8's DLC and Persona 3 Reload making disc 2 DLC are the perfect examples.
To play devil's advocate, wasn't the main justification based around growing development costs, inflation etc? I don't recall seeing a dev saying they're doing it to mitigate MTX requirements.
"every 70$ game"
your point is undermined by pointless exaggeration
@@DreadPyke Next to no games have physical releases that saves these company more than inflation times 10. In some case the manufacture of the game was in the end 1/4 to half the cost of the game shipping, manufacturing, and more cost have functionally been eliminated. There is no current day justification for paying 70$ buck more so with microtransactions and dlc.
@@DreadPykeIf their excuse is development costs, they could just oh Idk... don't inflate their dang budgets??? Why does something like Spider-Man 2 need to be $200 something million? This isn't GTA where they could get away with fat budgets like that.
@@driumissimo Are you salty?
What I hated the most is that Capcom knew the problems, still installed Denuvo, lied to the playtesters saying its an early build it is better at launch and then also for whatever reason removed the new game option.
Like I dont get whats going on and why studios think they can just do things like this. They really want to ruin their reputation.
Why wouldn't they? They still made their money back and then some. Everyone gobbled it up, and they've had a long history of this. Monster Hunter World's Iceborne expansion ran so poorly that people were refunding to the point they were in danger of no longer breaking even- only THEN did they remove it.
Don't even get me started on Street Fighter.
And yet, with this history, people still bought this rather than waiting, and they will continue to preorder and buy on Day 1. So why would they ever bother NOT doing this? There is almost no financial incentive for them NOT to keep doing this.
Denuvo is the biggest scam for game developers. It doesn’t help their game sales despite what they think.
Baldur’s Gate launched with no DRM and they made over a billion in cross-platform sales.
@@hellokatyfac3
Of course there’s a financial incentive to remove it. Otherwise, why do they always remove a couple months after launch?
The amount of refunds due to performance issues FAR outweighs the handful of copies that get pirated.
Lie ?
Capcom has been doing this. They start doing good, but then their greed takes over and stupid runs amok. People really thought they were innovating with remakes and sequels? They were being lazy and it went to their head.
Nowadays buying an "early access" is pretty much like buying an Alpha build. Now it's becoming the norm that "buying on release" is buying a $70 beta build.
I'll just wait another half year or so until the game is fixed, and then there's the Steam Winter Sale to pick this up for $25
Buying Early Access is just paying $100 to play the game on its launch date instead of 3 days later on a Monday.
@@CharityDiary I see we're still bitter about D4. 😂 But yea I'm also not buying any more Blizzard stuff before release either
@@ronsijm You shouldn't buy Blizzard stuff at all even after release. They done fuck up, they don't care about the people they employ what do you think they care about you? Beyond me how anyone can buy products of them.
You are right about a lot of games releasing in beta state.
I do not get the comment about early acess though. Early acess was intended and presented for both beta and alpha stage games right from the start on steam. There have also been multiple games even from back when ea started that explicitly put the various alpha stages they plan on their roadmap on their storepage, and label builds 'Alpha xyz' in the games main screens. That has always been the case and intended, unlike the broken states a lot of games have on official release these days.
Theyll remove denovo in less than a year imo and the game will run lots better.
Don't buy day one. Don't even buy week one. Wait til the 2nd month, do your research, make a decision then. Don't be a slave to FOMO. Also, waiting fucks with their quarterly financials.
Sounds about right.
thats why I didnt got 1 game since 2 years except elden ring doom and half life alyx
i dont buy decade one 😂 my backlog is unreal
Gamers are hooked on FOMO. That will never happen.
dont buy. Sail the seas😂👌DO IT
Those micro transactions would have been just cheat codes in the past where you could just spawn items. I can already see them making anti-cheat systems for single players game so that they can push those kind of micro transactions even further.
It already has anti-cheat... So the future is now, old man.
@@geminisykii right? Denuvo anti-cheat for a single-player game.
@@veliustactics9133 It's anti piracy not anti cheat.
@@moebiusjdx7288 as if we don't have thousands of videos about games with much more creative ways to punish pirates without fucking over the paying customers.
@@moebiusjdx7288 if a purchase isnt equal to ownership (which in this case like any other game of our time it isnt) then piracy isnt theft. If i cant modify the files of my own video game especially a sibgleplayer game without having my purchase being revoked retroactively then i have every right to call it out for what it is, and its bullshit.
This week in gaming news: Corporations are still acting like corporations.
pretty much :D
Is Larian a corporation?
@@PropaneWP As far as I know it's just a company.
@@PropaneWP privatly owned, so not yet! I doubt they want to sell to a highest bidder also, they dont need it...yet. everyone can F up.
corporations be corporating😮
Complaints about micro-transactions are always justified, never let anyone tell you otherwise. I'm very glad the discussion has finally flared back up after years of critics being shouted down.
Preach brother. Too many fanboys wanting to let it slide is what has gotten us into the current state of gaming as it is.
For sure, I hate the whole well they are in the game argument. If it’s in the game why is it even there they could just tell you to get it in the game.
in this case being bothered by the micro transactions seems dumb since everything being sold is available in game through play.
Absolutely. Plus the stability and optimization is absolutely terrible. This shouldn’t be a standard..
Exactly. It's time.
It’s funny how Baldur’s Gate launched without Denuvo and sold incredibly well.
All good games will ALWAYS sell. People will want the copy, people want to support good games. I know I have tried out many games first and bought them later. I'm gonna keep doing it like that.. This is the last time I got scammed like this and the last time I pre-purchased any game. I haven't been scammed on a early access game yet as I avoid those like the plague.
Why are you acting as if releasing a finished game is note-worthy just because the industry fell from it? There have been games doing this, but you cling to a AAA example? BG3 had bugs in Act 3 no one talks about, plus it was Early Access for how long? That's not the same thing as releasing a game after developing it, not making people pay for it while it's being finished. People move from one bad practice and point it at another.
That’s because they have no MTX which is the sole reason to have Denuvo on a single player game. Gotta prevent mods and trainers to get those items for free. Larian actually encourages mods.
On that note, Larian no longer wishes to work with Wizards of the Coast and there may not be DLC. Larian is legendary and has proven itself, but the greed of Wizards of the Coast has driven them apart.
@@rawr9349 idk larian literally said wizards of the coast had nothing to do with their decision to move away from dnd? I'm actually inclined to believe them on this Sven and larian have proven themselves pretty trustworthy :3.
One savefile per playthrough is a design decision we can agree or disagree with. One savefile as a whole is a design decision that's just objectively fu*king moronic. Quickly made some rando character to run around and test the performance, wanted to restart with a proper char, got a refund instead.
Comparing save files count to difficulty settings is apples to oranges. Being locked into one character is dumb there is no way to delete and start over in game. You can delete the save files on your drive but then you risk denuvo picking it up as altering the game files.
If you delete the save file apparently, Denuvo is tied to it and locks you out of the game eventually, as it considers each new save a new game activation. As if you installed the game on a new PC. At the very least, reinstalling the game to start over will trigger the Denuvo activation.
@@Revan_7even Wow, that is a remarkably stupid decision on their part.
@@Sorain1 At least as they said at the end of the video, Capcom is working on letting you delete the save in-game. Stupid it's not there by default, but they probably didn't have time to work around Denuvo.
It was done so you would buy the metamorphosis item in game. Funnily, when I needed to reroll I was short of ryft crystals and still haven’t gotten enough to buy metamorphosis. Maybe I should buy the ryft crystal mtx? 😂. Seriously though, very slimy by some scumbag Capcom exec who wanted a new Ferrari.
I like how some people are defending it by saying it's only $2 per thing like we are so indoctrinated that now microtransactions being >actually< micro and not $20 is being a good take.
It’s more that it’s nothing you can’t get in-game.
That's the Trick. Indoctrination is meant to make leniency for less devious-seeming greed-grabs. Tolerance means more wicked greediness slips in and cements itself as a norm.
That's an easy defense when its their parents' credit card footing the bill rather than their own.
It's not indoctrination. Make no mistake. It's called normalisation. And it's something known on business/psychology studies. Unfortunately.
@@tarekben5524 Normalisation is a form of indoctrination.
It's funny how my 3060 can run this game better than people with 4090s, just shows how absolutely buggered the optimization is.
really depends heavily on your cpu. The game is cpu bound from all accounts so it's possible people bust all their money on gpu and have a good enough cpu.
Not saying optimization isn't bad but it could explain some performance issues
it's cpu dependent, the 4090 only lifts so much in the game. my 13900k with 4080 gives me the same performance as someone with same specs except they have a 4090. the optimization is truly buggered, but it's mainly due to how they coded NPCs, each one is processed and tracked by the CPU and its intensive as fuck. you kill all the npcs in render range and your performance will skyrocket.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the 4090 people running it on 4k? I imagine DLSS also fucks with the performance since from my understanding it utilizes the CPU while you need the CPU for other things in this game, so you could hit some issues because of this.
It's probably also a case of people wasting their money buying that shiny 4090 while they run some cheaper CPU. Especially if they use Pre-builds, those are known to put the shiny GPU while ignoring other stuff.
@@AnInsaneTaco it explains why the game starts to turn into a slideshow for a few moments when you head into a city, I've been having a blast so far, but those performance patches can't come soon enough.
4090 btw isnt even that good better performance comes from 4070
this game is 95$ Canadian, screw that
Americans talk about "$80 games coming eventually" with dread. They don't know our pain.
@@Cheshire020 That's because Canada's economy is sheit. US thought they were bad, lol.
mate, that game is literally 400 brazilian Reais for the deluxe edition, which is a lot of money since the minimum wage is around 1k
109ish dollars after tax.
@@Cheshire020ahh the pain of luxury
The save file design decision is indefensible, when your game is so buggy that your players can lose an entire 50+ hour playthrough because they accidentally fall into a crevice they can't get out of because of all the unfriendly geography - which is normally fine... when you can reload to a previous save lol. Design decision? So their design goals are to waste player time, great.
yea like that doesnt happen with games that have no limit on the number of saves. do you hate honor mode in bg3 cause there is only one save?
@@Akakiryuushin No... because you choose to do that mode... What a weird argument
@@Akakiryuushin You can disable honour mode at any point, your playthrough can never be legitimately ended by a poorly timed auto save lol. Its also not the default save system, its a mode you elect into.
That's not even mentioning the Inn Rest System, which if some poor soul happens to not have rested for a long time and loads the inn save, the game immediately autosaves and deletes potentially tens of hours of progress.
That's not game design to be applauded or encouraged, its just anti-consumer.
@@Akakiryuushin Yeah. Cause CHOOSING a mode that restricts your save slots is exactly the same as capcom restructing it to one so they can sell you more.
Like life as a fluffer, eh.
Just buy a new company every other save you want.
There don't need to be "paid reviews". If you're getting access to a game early, maybe at some fly-in event where everything is paid for to boot, you give a good review. If you don't, you don't get invited to the next one. Thus the industry selects for reviewers that give good reviews without even needing to be paid.
They wanna only have 1 save file, it's stupid, but whatever. Them not having a way to start a new save is another thing, though. It is unacceptable for a modern game not to have that. Video games figured that shit out over 30 years ago how the fuck did they not
"The is not what Dragon's Dogma 1 deserved."
My. MAN. Dragon's Dogma 1 launched with literally the even worse frame rate and literally the same microtransactions. This is par for the course. And just like back then the microtransactions are completely inconsequential because the items and currencies in game aren't balanced around them being buyable.
And that is how it should STAY. but unfortunately if they get enough people buying them they will argue that it's what " customers want" and will get worse. It's how mobile games came around to free to play and look at all these extra items you don't need but it speeds up gameplay and you get ton " play" more.
Sadly I've come to the point i will NEVER touch a full+ priced game with micro transactions, there is absolutely no good argument for selling a 70$ game and have micro transactions in the game aswell, added with the knowledge and prior experience we have that ones there in an ingame store more things like "time savers" are more often than not added later when the worst critic has died down
Your choices are going to be slim
@@bousch8253 for AAA titles yea because they all like to gouge and gatcha but if it something that is sp and its good it'll be cracked
@@bousch8253 There has been lots of good choices. I haven't seen a $70 game I want to get or feel bad not getting.
@@bousch8253 i would love to hear your definition of "slim" because I can boot up Steam and find the first 1000 games still at 60$and without a cash shop in under 5 min
@@bousch8253 Then our money STAYS in OUR WALLETS and not in the hands of greedy corporations who feel entitled to it. My choice is to not fund the greed. I have always hated greed for greed's sake. doubling your revenue each quarter to appease gamblers who cough up millions to fund ideas is not something I give a damn about and refuse to pay for. I still work, I still pay rent and I still live: my hobby can wait for as long as needed as it is a luxury.
That anticheat is unnecessary and causes performance issues.
the anti cheat is so you dont generate items that they need to sell on the cash shop to recuperate cost and generate e additional profits
@@hby7768 which is even more funny since a mod is already doing just that
@@RaveSaultdmca on the way
@@RaveSault Said mod often bricks a game because Denuvo...
Yeah.
@@ZeroXSEED That is wrong, deunvo does not do anything to mods, its for anti-piracy. if your save is being bricked, its due to you using something extreme.
I run a 4070 with a i5-13400F. I run the game at 1440p. It runs stable 60fps everywhere except the cities where it drops to an unstable 40. Not enough to destroy the game for me but noticeable for sure.
The CPU intensive stuff paired with the Denuvo DRM is going to tank systems. Hope they address this.
I have a 4080 laptop with a pretty good amd cpu.. been getting about the same fps-wise, no crashing at all. with a good rig the game is absolutely playable but the performance on lower end systems is absolutely a problem that needed to be addressed.
As a game though, DD2 is amazing, I feel like if I waited I woulda missed out coz all my friends are also playing it and really loving it.. it comes down, I think, to how much of a fan you are of the original DD and your tolerance of jank and some odd design decisions. It is most certainly not a game for everyone.
@gman7497 I'm on a 4070 with i9 and half the textures don't load? Tried re-verifying steam files and redownloading twice. Nothing helped. Charged back my card for fraud
it doesn't matter how relevant or irrelevant the MTX is, what matters is that there are MTX in a singleplayer RPG
It's been like this for the past 15 years of Capcom game, but people won't complain about Resident Evil or Devil May Cry.
Oh get over yourself, every singleplayer RPG has a collector's edition with extra novelty items that have a very tiny gameplay impact, yes even your beloved BG3. That's all this is, they just listed the collector's edition items separately as well. You can only buy them once, it's not like they monetized actual in game commodities.
@@Talking_Ed And not all Capcom game have long list of MTX on day 1 . People keep saying DMC always have MTX but they fail to mention DMC before 4 didn't have MTX , DMC 4 only have Orb MTX while 5 have Orb and even longer list of MTX including 1 that make a weapon combo much better . " Capcom game always have MTX " but no one compare the scale between THEN and NOW . People can only tolerate much stuffs be4 the bubble burst , if game is good or revolutionized , people are likely to forgive if there are MTX , but DD2 doesn't have that , a buggy mess on day 1 , lack of QoL , double layer of intrusive anti-cheat , a long list of MTX right out of the gate and recent AAA game generally terrible ensure people gonna get angry .
@@kampfer91 Yeah because DMC3 was on the PS2 which didn't have online access except for Japan iirc. And DMC4 mtx are like 100 times worse than Dragon's Dogma.
People are not forgiving DD2 because they're not even playing the game instead they're just spreading missinformation on social media. MTX in capcom games literally got better and the games are not influenced at all by them but I guess y'all people can't form an original opinions so what can we do.
@@Talking_Ed why not compare between DMC 4 and DMC 5 instead nutjob . And it got better ? No it is got worse , before you pay money to get a bundle with multiple armor , now you pay the same thing to get a single use item or stuffs that directly benefit you like reviving or fast travel . Same case as DMC , be4 they only sell Orb , then in DMC 5 they got the one that give better combo . in MH they even had a poll that asked if people are ok with single monster battle pass . They will escalate this shiet cus people keep saying " it is not matter " and silent whale buy it .
There are so many games in my backlog and I’ve been burned to many times to buy games at launch. Of you’re a single player gamer save yourself the trauma of new releases and dip into that back catalog of games that probably run fine now. We need to stop rewarding these companies that launch unfinished trash.
This game costs $100 CDN here base cost. I wouldn't pay $100 for Baldur's Gate 3 and that has far more content to it. They then weakly stick out a shaky little pasty mitt and ask me to pay them to change the look of my character, which is just a database entry, for another $4.
I passed. Lots of great games out there to still play, and I'll get this thing in a few years when it's far cheaper and patched to a generally working state.
You don't have to pay to change your appearance.
Only 1 save slot is horrible decision.
For me it was the worst negative of DD1.
Me too, I could gorgive the atrocious performance and mtx. But only 1 character is unforgivable.
Im still seeing the games are being released 80% cooked and we are suppose to pay more then we have in the past? Didn't we get tired of having the wool pulled from in front of us?? Like then we get tired of it when they were $60?
You are not paying more, you're paying less than the past. Fable cost 50 USD in 2004. That's 80 USD today. Learn how inflation works
Capcom would never admit that the double DRM the game has is affecting performance even if it is. I want to see what the cracked version looks like comparatively, and then I can believe them.
But I think the reason Capcom is getting so much from both ends this time around is because the game is $70, and the performance and save file things are so annoying.
You see, the NPC problem is much bigger. On the PC, even the best desktop CPU on the market, NPCs appear and disappear in front of the player.
That was a decision probably made last minute to lessen the CPU load. But that also means Capcom KNEW that the game has major CPU problems and still released it.
Then the DLCs with content you can get easily ingame, but Capcom didn't tell reviewers about the DLCs to create fake FOMO in order to get people to buy the DLCs after release, the deluxe edition is part of that.
They knew 100% and why they wouldn't give us a demo of the game before release they gave us a character editor so people could make them pawns.
These days I always wait 6 months to get a game on PC, buy it at a big discount AND with performance/bug fixes! I just finished Jedi Survivor last month and it was pretty good. At least worth the $30 price tag.
6 months later the denuvo is usually gone too. In this case that is likely enough to be able to play the game smoothly. Even without their fixes and patches.
People who think Capcom redeemed themself might want to rethink that statement.
I mean, the moment they start milking Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, and Resident Evil, isn't it kinda obvious?
Describe what you mean by Milking.
@@braddl9442 I would assume the idiot bait microtransactions they keep adding to the games.
Breaking off aspects of well established game series that used to be in it and reselling it to you as microtransactions and incentivizing you to purchase it by intentionally harming the user experience.
The cherry on top being some of the more short sighted of those users defending the company’s right to screw them.
True. Fighting games have already normalised releasing characters separately as paid DLC.
Re4 remake and mhw had tons of mtx. How have people forgotten
You: : buy the game just don't buy the MTX
Corporations: we had the MTX in the last game and people still bought the game. Put them in the next one too, but let's make them a little more predatory.
You deserve what you tolerate.
MTX in capcom games have always been useless, it's been 15 years, they just add it to make the shareholders happy but there's never anything useful in there
I’m emotionally scarred by MTX existing. It keeps me awake at night. I awake in a sweat thinking MTX is breaking into my house.
1080p 60fps was the standard we wanted for games 10 years ago lol
Havent pirated a game in 12 years...
In a full priced- ... oh wait, overpriced 70! dollar game, I am not gonna support the MTX BS even being there. "Just ignore it" is what got us to this BS in the first place. Then you have BS like Ubi and games designed around the MTX. I am sticking to AA/Indie and any AAA will be snatched from the seas under the black flag...
How? Empress hasn't cracked a game closing in on a year now and was the last and only denuvo cracker. With out empress you are looking at 0% denuvo cracks... Quite literally denuvo has potentially won the long game and there will be no more denuvo cracks. If that's the case every game will be denuvo going forward.
@@Lowlightt Not like there are any game worth cracking recently....
@@kampfer91 Goalpost shifting is fun.
@@Lowlightt wut? because not every game has fucking denuvo? it's a minority.... and she only cracked it because someone paid her a shitload of money for it..... fork up some cash and offer it to skidrow or codex or rune or any of the other myriad cracking groups if you're that worried about it lol the only game i've missed recently was persona and one other that i can't even be bothered to remember.... literally every single other AAA and AA game i've wanted to play in the last 2-3 yrs+ (up to and including yesterday) i have been able to pirate without any issue, sounds like a skill/knowledge issue.
@zeening Skidrow and codex can't Crack denuvo. And it won't be a minority if it has 100 uncrackable. Which the exit of empress seems to be the case.
The fact they were *"cowardlly"* enough to wait until after reviews to release their monitization, shows not only was this intentional, its even worse than releasing them day one with the game.
Its a scummy duplicitous decision that will result in overall loss in sales.
Yes, they already sold millions, but they would have sold more if they didnt do this. But we know they dont care. They've highlighted this more elequently than we ever could.
I don't usually swear, but fuck Capcom and their scummy decisions, and the clowns who defend this.
Capcom should fire the used car salesmen that they have running the show. Hire professional game developers to run the show and not the hacks they currently employ. But on the plus side. Dear Billionaires, they are a metric ton of great developers out there that are looking for employment. Game development is a multi-billion dollar industry that is currently being run by morons. If you want to make some money, go for it. We will give you our money if you make a great game.
Every industry has competent professionals in it. Corporations choose the shoddy salemen because they make money on stock manipulation and shareholders rather than consumers… people need to stop buying trash in order for them to take a financial hit when they release trash.
Some industries like medical care are at the mercy of regulation and monopolies, but gamers need to smarten up and do whats needed to protect the games they love.
The billionaires are the type of person demanding these microtransactions. You think they got that rich by NOT extracting every last cent from their customers and employees?
@@GnarledStaffWon't happen, the current state of the gaming and automotive industries are perfect examples of the bell curve in action.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." -George Carlin
Wouldn't work you need executives to run a huge corporation, most talented Devs wouldn't even want to be executives, if you want a game were Devs have managerial control buy indy
The problem is that they promote people from the financial management department to corporate heads not the game developers themselves.
I remember when free to play games started with micro transactions. It made sense to fund the game with these transactions but why in a single-player $60-70 game?
Could be the best game ever in the last thousand years. Given Capcom and their hard line against modding, means, I will have nothing to do with this game, or any others they put out, past or present.
Hard line? There are mods for DD2 out already. Capcom can't stop them, and they relented on their foolish attempts to with other games.
@@zephyr8072 I didn't know that. If that is the case, I may give it an actual look see then.
Pirating Crapcom games is always morally correct.
@@IncognitoActivado Hehe, Thank Good ness for Demonoid!
I recommend the no weight and selling for 10x more. Also you can create more accounts with family share. Just make some bogus steam accounts and add them to your friendlist, activate family sharing. Then you can use your own pawns even. That's how I did it with dragon's dogma: dark arisen. I did hire pawns as well at times, when levelling or when I needed something special. Not that it mattered that way as you could just cheat engine RC and gold or whatever. It was a game you owned!
What Dragon's Dogma 2 did for me was show me that Monster Hunter Wilds went from a day 1 buy to I'll probably get it after a couple months. I'm far beyond disappointed. Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate has clearly been spoiling players. This was a strong reminder that you shouldn't buy games day 1 as you get an inferior product for being an early adopter. Capcom should be paying me for being a QA tester smh.
To be fair Elden Ring also has its fair share of technical issues at launch, but luckily no microtransactions
@@RB-in7flminor glitches. ER was playable. Dd2 is not.
@@wardy4903 "minor glitches" my ass, ER released with an entire stat (Arcane) completely bugged and unable to scale making several builds in the game useless (and of course players had no idea until they started investing). Several classes in an rpg being worthless for a week is not minor issue
Wish I could up this comment 10 times. I will always remind myself of this game when any triple fail studio is gonna release a new game. I will wait the 6 months. Heck I should just wait 3 years or so as it will make buying computers cheaper and everything! So what If i am three years behind? Unless it's a MMO it won't matter.
@@wardy4903DD2 is playable day 1 lmao stop listening to the narrative instead of just trying out the game, it works better than ER day 1.
Still won't purchase the game out of principle. I >might< purchase it 5 years later when it is %50 off
It'll be 50% off during holiday season 2024
I'll wait till it's in that Walmart bin
It was going to be a 50% off buy for me just for the $70 price tag. THEN the rest of it hit and its a hard pass entirely now. I have plenty of games I can be playing instead, not missing a damn thing.
Capcom have been on this for a while. Monster Hunter World/Rise, Devil May Cry 5, and Exoprimal all have terrible looking microtransactions, but can be safely ignored and offer loads of in game unlockables.
Still not OK, though. With these types of MTX, they're selling us something that we get anyway, so that's a scam, or the items have value and are either unavailable or difficult to obtain in-game, which is exploitative. I would actually say Capcom is guilty of both since while most of them can be easily garnered in-game, the portcrystal is additional to the ones available and they are a scarce resource as is
They’ve been doing this for more than a decade. Dragon’s Dogma had similar micro transactions when it came out back in 2012.
It’s a bad practice, but the silver lining is that the mix in the game are practically useless.
It's even longer, since 2008 you could buy life orbs in DMC4. It's all useless shit, just ignore it and play the videogame
@@davidmurphy7332 Portcrystals are not scarse, you can forge them for 300k which going a bit forward in the game you will make easily.
@@davidmurphy7332 I agree that it's not OK, and I wish Capcom wouldn't add this trash to otherwise great games. That said, I'm not going to deny myself said games since ignoring the microtransactions still leaves a full game with plenty of unlockables.
After pre-ordering 2077 and Cities Skylines 2, I really hesitated a little on pre-ordering this until the very last second (and didn't pre-order). Now I will never hesitate again.
Cyberpunk 2077 turned out to be really well at the end. CS2 will probably become a good game in 2 years or so.
Stop pre-ordering games. Please.
@@augustday9483 okay, only because you said please. I'll never pre-order ever again :)
Pre-ordering games, specially digital is silly and has always been.
It's not like they'll run out of copies or get delisted
@@RadikAlice but they might run out of cash for developing or they'd like to use it to tune their marketing budget.
*SAVE FILE* is so that they (potentially) get more sales. Reason? *NO* other person in your household can play the game (on their own play through). This (in my view) means that you do not own the game / It is not yours, (If I can not let a family member play it, then I do not own it)
Game Influencers: I didn't become a game influencer because I could read.
What does this mean?
Asmon said he didn’t know…I’m starting to doubt
@@Jinxyoutoheaven All of them have said this, we know there was an embargo, and that so far two channels have said the kit they received did come with the MTX information, but they thought it wasn't worth mentioning as they wouldn't buy it. Because the review was for their audience...in the end it seems they were all bought in a way and thought MTX was such a norm it didn't matter, or that they wouldn't be called out for not mentioning something they were told not to mention or lose access.
Never pre-order, never buy day 1, and never purchase microtransactions.
I didnt preorder because of RE4 nonsense and its capcom but I did buy day one which I quickly refunded because of my friend warning me about the 1 save slot and only 3 character edits one being a micro. I expected yea there will some dlc later for the other missing vocations a chunk of map or something not this crap. I may completely shelf capcom like EA and UBI this is getting real old.
The fact that some people out there are parroting some version of 'This 2024 product can run well at 30fps if you scale it down! whats are you bitching about?' is honestly completely wild to me. If your action game can't run at 60fps, even if it has to look like dogwater, I don't think it's a good product. Yeah, there are some games where it truly doesn't matter but c'mon, action games? We've had 60 as a baseline for so many years now... anytime you encounter 30 it feels like shit. Basically, telling me DD2 works at 30fps is tantamount to telling me it's shit. Don't praise that, that's not even the quality floor... that's the basement.
Anyways, it'll be cracked soon enough and it'll probably a better more stable version. Capcom can blow me.
just because something is a deliberate design decision, doesn't mean it isn't completely idiotic
Considering some studios can put their foot down and some don't. At what point are we allowed to be mad at both the publisher and the developers? I'm getting a little sick of trying to keep deflecting all the blame and accountability, and yes, if a game has atrocious monetization you are 100% allowed to include that in your rating and imo its criminal if you are a reviewer and ignore that aspect.
the director did put their foot down. why do you think all of the dlc is stuff that is easily obtainable?
@@comyuse9103 Yea, they also made sure to include gameplay mechanics that potentially slaughter your whole town to make sure you need more rez stones than you can reasonably get. That is not putting your foot down.
I just love that modders instantly just put vendors in game to sell these. Why single player micro transactions make no sense, they need to make actual expansions, new classes etc.
feels like Cyberpunk all over again, "but guys, theres really a good game if you look past all the issues!" 😂❤
diablo 4 says hi too lol XD
@@d4mephistoWe'll get back to you after we load everybody's inventory. Lol.
@@d4mephisto Diablo 4 is not a good game.
People acting like Capcom is just selling a few in- game items are ignoring the fact that you can also purchase RC. Buying RC allows you to hire much higher level pawns more frequently, which obviously makes the game easier. It's not just a ferrystone, etc.
Nah, you can just add someone to your friends list and add their pawn for free lmao And farming RC is quicker than buying it.
Capcom did a Bethesda.
*_Never go Bethesda! Did Fallout 76 teach us NOTHING?!_*
No, go back and watch videos on fallout 76. That game was much worse. Not even remotely similar
I refunded Dragon’s Dogma 2. Was not really feeling it, the performance was terrible, and the micro-transactions for a single player $70 game are unjustifiable.
its insane people justify it by saying they arent necessary they are still there and an option in a 70 dollar title that is inexcusable
@@alexandermccabe556yep, if devs didn’t want to sell microtransactions, they shouldn’t have put them on sale to begin with.
I’ve seen people defending not being able to start a new game - the brainrot is real
cant wait to see the cracked version performance without denuvo
This dumpster fire costs $108 Australian. That pricing is unheard of and absolutely disgusting.
The developers sure did do a great job, which is why Capcom pays them. The question for the consumer is whether they think it appropriate to pay Capcom for the end product, warts and all. People tend to forget this because it's not intuitive, but paying for a game doesn't mean you're supporting the developers, just that you're giving money to a publisher in exchange for a product. Consumers don't get to pick and choose how their money is distributed, so people choosing to buy Dragon's Dogma financially support Capcom's monetization schemes just as much, if not more, than they do the work of the creatives and developers.
Part of the backlash is that several content creators who received the microtransactiin list decided not to mention them at all, and then defend that decision. They're either protecting their exclusive coverage at worst, or making incomplete, sub-par reviews at best.
They are the equivalent of buying in-game gold... literally have no impact on the game, unless you want to buy a ton of port crystals and ferry stones just to fast travel. fast travel was limited in the first game also so it's not like it being limited now is any surprise
@@cosmicanomaly3416You can also buy RC, which allows you to hire pawns that are much higher levels than your own character. This obviously makes the game easier, so no, it's not just a few in- game items.
@@toolshedvideo You can just add someone as a friend and hire their pawn for free lmao or RC is wildly available and DD1 had the same MTX
Then they are noob traps/FOMO scams. Even if they are useless trash, the fact that they are packaged in a way to prey on people wanting what seems to be the full package. Many of whom may not watch reviews to be forewarned, or only watch 1 person at most
@@SkellyHertz ohh you poor soul... don't tell me you expect games to cater to every single individual? Also, why is this game a big deal to you? You make it sound like we're talking about diablo 4 or those mobile gacha games meant to scam kids off their parents savings?
We're talking about dragons dogma. A single player game where you can buy the full game without having to purchase any add-ons.
I am running it at 1080p 40+ in the city and 1080p 80+ in the wild. The MTX in this game is pretty much nothing. Easily earned in game.
if a publisher required to me to add microtransactions just because, but as a dev I don't want to do it, that's how I would do it. Add useless microtransactions adding things that is already on the game making the microtransaction useless. just to say it have microtransactions and the executives shut up
Yeah, pretty much. It feels like this is some kind of contractual demand made by a suit that has zero passion for gaming. The design team then maliciously complied by creating worthless MTX content.
Well the publisher is going to have to explain to investors why a lot of us are now waiting for a steep sale price.
Of course they won’t take blame for it. No, it will be the single player mode that’s the blame.
I totally didn't think of this. I wonder if this is actually what happened?
Still doesn't excuse the adding of microtransaction in the game. And so zero justification for it.
And still deserving of universal condemnation.
That's been capcom for the past 15 years yeah, people just realised with DD2 I guess
PSA: Dragons Dogma 2 deletes your manual save if you happen to click "load from last inn rest". Yes, I'm one of the many people that lost hours of progress because of this lame feature. They could at least let us keep the manual save least until we overwrite it. Then I would have just loaded in and out again to my manual save and no harm would have been done. Geez...
10+ hours of progress lost. I do not recommend this game.
I didn't think it would have microtransactions. I was exited for it and pre-ordered it. A couple days ago when I found out it has microtransactions I requested a refund. Hopefully, since I haven't played it yet, I can get my $$ back
I speedrun that refund! Only one save file and consumable dlc's in a single player game are unforgivable!!
worst part it is people that make greedy corporations like Capcom part of their personality trying to defend these practices.
Just because they are unnecessary does not make them good. They are bad, they make the game worse and they absolutely impact game design. Just because they didn't do an Ubisoft maximizing the impact does not mean it did not impact it.
The same way that just because the published is a p.o.s. does not make the devs bad. But using your brain to separate these issues is hard work. "And I don't like doing hard work"
9:20 Boycotting the game is a terrible idea. Dragon's Dogma 2 is Itsuno's baby. He was fighting for years so Capcom would finally let him do the sequel he wanted, following his vision.
What we should boycott are just the microtransactions, like you said. Make our voice be heard to Capcom stop trying to pull an EA.
On top of all the shenanigans the single save file just comes off as cheap. I fail to see how preventing me from having multiple characters does anything other than limit the time I'll spend playing your game.
Having a single save file, early launching the character editor, and having those mtx was on purpose and is worse than other mtx. This idea that lead devs can't push back against this stuff is hot garbage. They are just as complicit, the dev innocent narrative is bullocks.
How buying easily obtainable crap itens is worse than other mtx?
The performance and micro transactions issues are really over shadowing some of the fundamental problems with the actual gameplay.
The poor pawn AI, the knock down (basically a stun lock) mechanic and the timed revive are bigger issues imo. No one wants to talk about these though, as they invoke less drama and clicks.
I love how dd2 and BG3 are basically complete polar opposites of what each game represents. Like every feature that's available as a microtransaction in DD 2 is available for free in Baldur's Gate III and was either in the game at launch as part of an intended feature or added in through a FREE update patch.
Every time this happens, you can be assure that the marketing team and the sale team is involved. I still remember back in the day those 2 teams are created to help selling the product made from the game dev department, not dictate what game dev should be doing in their game.
Wrong, they got exactly what they deserve.
It's about time people got tired of MTX, let alone in full-priced titles. Dude says, "Don't let these microtransactions stop you" attitude like this are the problem.
What a dishonst take. What was wrong with the MTX exactly. The full priced game is the DELUXE edition and it came with the MTX included, so you dont have a point if that was your argument.
@@braddl9442
If I have to tell you what's wrong with MTX in an $80 game, it's already too late for you boy
@@braddl9442 I've noticed a number of these comments from you on this video with similar statements. Are you really this obtuse or just paid to be so? Also, your claim that the original poster doesn't have an argument is false.
@@braddl9442 They limited the character customization items to 2, for the entire game, and then put them up as MTX. How do I know this? As they are rapidly back pedaling, they have announced they will be upping those metamorphosis items to 99 in the up-coming patch.
That's what was wrong with the MTX. Locking, or limiting, core elements of the game behind MTX. They are also back pedaling on the save system.
The score was deserved. Gamers need to take back the space, and hold greedy ceos and corporations accountable for their nickle and dime schemes. You might not think it's much, a few dollars here, or there, but that is how they get you and change the culture. Incrementally. A centimeter here, or there. Then one day you will be looking at 100 dollar games and you have to pay for the privilege to have even one save, and you will wonder how the fuck that happened.
Two decades too late. The time to fight this hard or harder against them was every game that had them since the horse armor thing. People generally ignored them until recently, now that it's too late to expect fighting against them to do much of anything. Also, where was the backlash for Devil May Cry 5, Monster Hunter, the original Dragon's Dogma on consoles, Helldivers 2, FF14, and many many more? I do realize Helldivers 2 and FF14 aren't Capcom games but they still have micro transactions and those are either just as bad or worse.
Regarding Denuvo, it does cause performance issues. It varies between games and implementation, but it does effect it. That being said, it's mostly just Capcom's fault in this case, but Denuvo doesn't help matters since it is also hitting the CPU.
Dragons dogma 2 did release like elden ring, That game had bad pc performance
1080p 30fps in 2024 is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THE END.
Capcom nah more like Crapcom micro transactions 😂😂😂
It's not micro transactions. Its actually categorized as DLC. Why is this different? You can only buy each one once. So, outside of its optimization issues. I don't see many issues. Console, almost no issues to speak of. It's almost the opposite of Cyberpunk 2077. CP2077 was well received on PC/Steam. But destroyed on console where the optimization sucks.
That said, I see 1 in 10 complain about the optimization. Most complain about micro transactions.. which are not really a thing in this game. Its single purchase items that you can get in game easily.
I mean I do love immersing myself in a single-player fantasy game and knowing that someone who paid a bit more is having a slightly easier time
Good news. They aren't. They just paid a bit more real money to not have to pay a bit of in-game currency.
@@ayrshark9314 Sounds like a slightly easier time to me
I’m not playing a game with mtx’s. I don’t support the practice.
goodbye to almost literally every other current game then
My brother in christ you literally liked Lost Ark guide videos on your RUclips account, a Korean MMO that is blatantly actually Pay 2 Win.
@@steel5897 I’ve never played that game in my life. You looking at the right account?
You play MTG bro lmao
@@Talking_Ed you don’t have to buy packs to play the game. At least you looked at the right account history. Can’t say that for the other guy.
Honestly, who cares about the MTX?!?! They have absolutely NO effect on the game if you choose to not buy them. They've convenience, get over it. A port crystal and a revive stone. Just save more often and use ox carts. Now, the performance issue on PC does piss me off. I have a really good computer with a 3070 and a great 5700x CPU. There's no reason I should be getting 15 fucking FPS in town at 1440p.....
Thanks for the shout out to the Cities Skylines 2 devs who were done so dirty by the publisher, they really didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus like that
Devs said they hit all their targets at launch. Soooo....
@@MrMpa31 Funny how the devs were warning people before launch that the game was not ready yet and has serious performance issues, and have been working on the game nonstop even after launch. Even despite the literal death threats they have been receiving
@@Songfugel Devs were not warning anyone prior to launch. They were out very actively promoting the game. They changed their tune after release.
I haven't had any performance issues on PS5.
What’s infuriating is the misinformation that’s being spread about the micro transactions.
Not a single one is necessary to obtain any success in the game, and all of the items (save for a stupid necklace that will raise affinity - can be done with in game items). Yet I hear so much whining about P2W.
Rift crystals are meant to be spent on pawns in later playthroughs when you are sitting on piles of them, but people complained so much that they added packs you could buy in Dark Arisen.
We keep having sequels come out and getting bashed by hate bandwagons when people don’t even have half of the information correct to begin with.
none of this changes the fact that it shouldnt be in the game
Day 1 DLC is still Day 1 microtransactions.
Same shit different games. If they didn’t want to sell it, they shouldn’t have put it on sale.
Ok you clear misinformation, now we understand Capcom is praying on casuall players with no knowledge about it. That's a pass for know I buy it for 40 $ after they fix performance because company who treat customers like that don't deserve more.
@@alexandermccabe556 the ones people are the most upset about were added to the original game over a decade ago and were only added because of whining/complaining. In my head, they just killed two birds with one stone and anyone with an untrained eye just sees a new shiny thing to hate.
@@HalloweenSurfboard well just because it makes sense in your head doesnt mean it is reality also them being in the ps3 version of the game most people didnt play doesnt suddenly make it okay here
A decade ago we knew that microtransactions were bad. Now it's "They're not required, so they're fine." I bet these same people paid $120 for the Starfield early access while also being subscribed to Game Pass.
Can anyone tell me why is it only called Dragons Dogma on the title screen? Is it really just a secret remake rather than a sequel?
Definitely seems like a total remake lol. In-game that it. Same story different path and bigger world
@@BlueBDThanks. I couldnt find any info on why this was the case. I am in full agreement its deffo a total remake.
Not sure if it's true but I've read that the 2 appears on the title screen when you unlock new game plus.
@@thanos43infinity Kinda like a LoZ game in this regard. The Cycle Repeats again, and again, and again, and again. Some things change while others reflect the past
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What micro transactions? Yea they’re there, but it’s like a commercial, ignore it. Remember when tv had commercials? You don’t have to buy those products.
right, My issue is the fast travel, character customization menu, and the pay too win elements. DO NOT buy this game. if we keep making allowance for this kind of BS monetization. eventually it WON'T be optional. remember. a game dev wanted you too pay too reload your gun. if capcom can get away with that kind of monetization. then they will. say NO too this BS.
Fast travel is a last resort in this game for gameplay reasons and the character change book can be bought in game in the city for almost nothing. You guys chose the wrong capcim game to start being precious about mtx
What pay to win?
Literally everything offered can be acquired in-game easily including the fast travel system.
Yes,. the store is cheesy and unnecessary but actually do your research before criticizing.
The slippery slope argument is dying on this hill bud. This game contains the same mtx that was in the first DD game. And yet it's even easier to obtain those items in DD2 than the first. Meaning after 10 years rather get worse it's stayed the same or technically got less worse. That's kinda the opposite of a slippery slope.
@@Lowlightt then don't come whining to me when your all having to buy qaulity of life items with real life money in the future. you did it too yourself.
players looked at RE4 mtx list: meh, not worth buying them
players looked at DD2 mtx list: HOW COULD CAPCOM ADD MTX TO A SINGLE PLAYER GAMES!!?? I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS!
this drama is bizarre
When people having standards is considered bizarre, you know we're screwed.
@@Tiwill both is singleplayer, both have mtx, both is from capcom. What kind of standar do you need to say RE mtx is "okay" but DD2 is suddenly game breaking? Oh yeah it's called Double Standard
@@banyanyas839 Speaking for myself, I didn't care to complain about RE4 remake because it's not my kind of game. Doesn't mean I approve of it in that game. Maybe RPG enjoyers simply have higher standards. Maybe gamers have higher standards now than they did last year. Isn't that a good thing?
@@Tiwill if their standard come from their own will then i will respect it, but the more i read about the complain the more i realise most of them didn't buy/try the game. They just did it just because youtuber/streamer says it was bad, it's just a bad attitude i say.
@@Tiwill that's the opposite of a standard.
Tbh best looking game of 2006
1080/60 being standard was something TotalBiscuit, may he rest in peace, was talking about almost a decade ago, and the fact games still release in such a state is... Mindboggling.
Capcom puts these type of literal nothing idiot bait micro transactions in all their games, hell they were in the first dragons dogma, and now it’s a problem? 😂
Imagine being in such a gaming drought lately that you have to compromise on your principles. This is a tough one for sure.
"Hey I shouldn't be at fault because I'm too lazy to read."
Is all I'm hearing from some of these people.
Are we really at the point where setting aside 30 minutes to read a document so you and play a game is too much to ask?
here's my question. what do these people who are boycotting/attacking DD2 about mtx actually think is going to happen? do they think if a game fails due to mtx the people who are in charge of the money will look at why it failed? because if you think thats the case you're actually delusional if you think it will help. they will just see it didnt perform, scrap any future plans and move on to the next with mtx still in it. all you may accomplish if ending franchises, cool game mechanics for future games. you think you are fighting for better games but realistically you are doing the opposite. the best way to fight mtx is to just not buy them in the games. its straight up that simple.
It is very easy to not buy games from companies that do this. There are 1000s of other games out there, the choices are endless. And i don't see a need to separate the Studio from the Corporation, they are one and the same. Want your game Studio to succeed, don't take the easy money knowing who the corporation is.
When I was a kid I had the original D&D boxed set, before AD&D. It had a different feel to any other pen and paper since. It’s difficult to describe but I lived in the mountains and as I hiked the trails back in the 80’s as a little kid my imagination would run wild. Dragon’s Dogma 2 is as close to any video game has ever come to making exploring a mountain trail feel like a real place and it’s got some gaming mojo.
Ignore the over hyped controversy. It’s a hard RPG if you want but I’d never fast travel. I’ll hike these trails for 100’s hours. Bravo Capcom. Its day night cycle is so good; spelunking is so atmospheric and immersive; the combat is hilariously fun.
If you like the game but dont want to support Capcom with Denuvo or microtransactions, just pirate it. You will get a drmless version, capcom will not get money for their atrocious MTX and you can enjoy the game. Otherwise, just wait for a sale.
Buying the game now will only say you accept whatever shit capcom does to you.
GamerNexus has a great breakdown of just how CPU intense this game is on high end CPUs. Not to mention them adding Denuvo on top.
Why is everybody crying about the micro transactions. Its a Singleplayer game.
The performance issues are inexcusable, but at least for me, the DLSS framegen mod helped immensely. Even in the main city, my fps is pretty decent now with max settings and raytracing at 1440p. It's a shame, because DD2 is probably my favorite game in a long, long time. I've had so much fun just getting lost in the world, finding quests and outcomes that are easily missed, doing cheeky things with various game mechanics, and trying different builds.
I really hope the game does well enough to get an expansion in the future.
Based on the £36 of paid micro transactions this game shipped with, i no longer bought it ss intended, and will not buy it until it is at lesst £36 off on sale. The company can lose the amount it tried to force from me
A lot of people had complaints about things like fast travel, getting RC, and other things in the last game. Capcom’s solution was to add extra system to exacerbate the problem and sell the solution to those complaints as DLC.
“Nobody complained about other games.”
MH updated their combat system and added new ways to move around the map to make it quicker. Then sold mostly cosmetics in their store. They didn’t add omnidirectional movement, the slinger, faster overall movement to the shop as DLC. “Other games from Capcom” is not an argument.
The problem is the way they’re ramping it up. Going so far as to take the complaints from the previous games, make it worse, then try to capitalize on it. That’s not just selling the solution. That’s adding to the problem to sell the solution. Capcom actually skipped a rung on the ladder toward more aggressive monetization.
It’s been clear they’ve been prodding for ways to monetize their games further and further over the years. It’s always a problem that historically, only gets worse. It’s very clear that the Capcom cultists are taking the wrong context out of this argument. I can’t say for sure if it’s purposely done or just blind fanaticism.
You keep saying we didn’t have a problem with it before (Which is patently false), but thinking back on the progression and the ways they’ve tried, and failed (SF midgame ads….. lmfao) I should’ve said something because history hasn’t lied when it comes to this and it’s becoming obvious Capcom is moving toward more aggressive monetization.
So yeah, you’re right. We should always stand up against it. Cosmetic only or not. History doesn’t lie. It ALWAYS gets worse.
Thank you all for beta testing the game for me. I'm looking forward to the 1.0 release of Dragon's Dogma 2, 1 year from now.
As an outsider to DD, the save system totally turns me off. And then there's performance, and the relevant concern that micro-transactions reflect game design intended to frustrate a player. $70? The market is saturated with fantastic titles, new and old. A pretty easy and reasonable pass for me.
Ya, a lot of people can't resist the urge to grab the newest thing just because it's the newest thing. It's fine if they're enjoying themselves but, for my money, I want a feature-complete game that respects the artistic integrity of the medium and doesn't have performance issues.
The MTX didn't influence the game design for sure. With how trivial basically the stuff they sell is to get, it shouldn't have any measurable impact of any gamer a tiny bit serious about playing the game. Also the exact same MTX was in DD1 at release and the Rift Crystal earning seems kind of faster in DD2 than DD1, so it's even less of an issue for the current game.
@@Mordy. Yeah youtube now is basically just spreading disinformation about DD2, it's pretty sad