Nobody talks about anyone from the warring states period except Hashirama and madara. This dude lived 1000 years ago and people still talk about him. Nuff said
Just like kabuto said people like not know the legends not the full power everybody heard tje legesn of madara but nobody knew how strong he really was they kage were confident enough to think they could take him on even with the stories just to find out he was holding back the whole time and is a monster
Hagoromo and are basically the strongest duo in the verse. Naruto and Sasuke basically got a portion of his power he had as a ghost, which he obviously took back to nerf them...
@@bossshxtonlymomoshik has far less powers than than any ten tails Jin. As he doesn't have regeneration or ability to use yin-yang to nullify any non senjutstu or six path Chakra powerd jutsu. Not to mention that bourto and kage can keep up with him
@@bossshxtonly Hagoromo is half otsutsuki with dual rinnegan and 10 tails jinchuriky, and has six paths sage mode Naruto only has the 9 tails, six paths sage mode and is like max IDK 8% Otsutsuki, Naruto is literally inferior in every single way to Hagoromom in genetics, in sage mode, in the tailed beast department, in dojutsu
I mean hagoromo is very powerful and he is a god-tier character but there are many characters in the naruto/boruto verse that can actually beat him with no difficulty.
What do you mean All things in Existence? What level is that exactly? Is it beyond universal or is it just universal? It's also stated in the data books that kinshiki can Obliterate All Things. Bullet, what is this level and what does it mean? -AKid from Discord
Bro i think indra,s raw power was no where near Hagoromo,s because Hagoromo have TRUTH SEEKING ORBS,SAGE OF SIX PATHS,SUSANO WITH MOST RAW POWER,and UNDEBATEDLY STRONGER DOJUTSU YIN and YANG Release
Remember while Hagoromo is just so spiritually inclined he in death is above everyone else he somehow has become more powerful while alive he was weaker than Kaguya and now he might while dead be stronger than Isshiki
@@mobarenleidowu1336isshiki maybe but not kaguya. Remember she lost to base hagoromo and base hamura who weren't at their peak yet, with the intent to kill them
I mean a dude with less experience in using chakra( all types of chakra) and a weaker more restricted body and stamina using probably less than 1/2 of hagoromo's prime power was able to outbox and momentarily bully isshiki with that unleashed less than 1/2 hagoromo power Just saying
@@bossshxtonly Hagoromo didn't give exactly half of his power. He gave Sasuke six paths chakra which took him from below blind Madara to Juubi Madara's level. Hagoromo prime power was talked about throughout the series. Hagoromo and his brother could fight Kaguya and the Juubi for months that's featless to you? Dumb point. The only reason they beat Kaguya was because of the seal Hagoromo gave them we don't know when Hagoromo and Hamura made this seal to defeated Kaguya. Naruto used Hagoromo's power to neg Madara.
I subscribed I really like your power scaling for the naruto verse too many people try to down play. Also at 4:34 if kaguya has 5 dimensions and can destroy them and they are universe sized isn’t she multiversal multidimensional level?
No I don’t think she tried to get all 6 but I was just thinking if she can truth seeker all of them even if one by one that should be multidimensional no? Plus being able to freely travel and manipulate the environment in all of them. Maybe I’m wrong sounds like it works tho lol
Bro wtf, She said her self that those were her time spaces. She create those dimensions with ETSB, And the first act of ETSB is always destruction and engulfs everything then creates a new time space. So her all 5 dimensions are gone thro first act of destruction, This proves that kaguya is capable of destroying all 5 dimensions.
@@thatsthemusixs1956 she definitely created those 6 dimensions but the question is if with that ETSB she was going to destroy all 6 at once or just that one dimension they were in, that's why it's not sure if that's qualifying enough for Low Multi Kaguya, as I said Uni+ is the safe bet
Can you also do a full power video on Madara? I think that would be very interesting imo. But don't rush yourself on it, take your time as I know your still in university. Btw keep up the good work!
@Blesson Franklin 😐. Optards are making their return. Also one of my friends yesterday showed me a screenshot of him debating another dude and he said if whitebeard used the tremor tremor fruit 30 times on the same area, the universe would be destroyed 😂😭
@@smal750 multiplanet no less or more smh 🤦♂️ yhwaach best feats is lifting wanderiech that is Planet-multi planet Ichigo overpowered him make him multiplanet-large planet-star stop wankin ur fav chat
@@KingBullet123 But we saw what Asura could do with that Rasengan thing. So we can make a logical assumption and say most of it came from old Hagoromo.
@@KingBullet123 In that "filler" episode once Indra went perfect Susano'o Asura was completely out match. Only after unlock SO6P that's when he could compete with Indra. This power helped him fight Indra for years. SO6P which were given from Hagoromo. So ya most it was from Hagoromo.
@@DarkGator31 no i dont think so, narutos taijutsu powers are on the same level as ishikis, you can see that if you watch the fight in the manga again, the real reason why ishiki destroyed naruto and sasuke was his shrinking ability, because there were moments were naruto alone had the upper hand but of course he uses his doujutsu and can escape
@@DarkGator31 because of the disadvantages kuruma himself said that naruto surpasses ishikis strenght with baryon mode and naruto even held back where he was strongest at the beginning and didnt really go all out because he had to buy time
@@DarkGator31 bayron was clearly obliterating him also NARUTO HAS THE SAME DISEASE HAGOROMO HAS he is sick as well. Plus ishiki lost as he died due to narutos ability so in a 1v1 naruto one due to his ability and naruto is alive and well.
Naruto power scaling was never really the best (on the fan's side) but damn does it hurt for people to be saying Momoshiki would body Hagaromo with no difficulty. Heck, people legit think Momoshiki could easily beat Kaguya (that's not the case for anyone wondering, it's really not). Thanks for at least giving Hagaromo the spotlight he deserves.
People are really underestimating momoshiki. Momoshiki is the 2nd strongest character in the series while hagoromo is the 5th strongest character in the series. Momoshiki is basically a stronger version of hagoromo.
@@mikicapone3738 Bro, momoshiki had so many hax abilities but plot didn't allow him to use it, so he got nerfed. Hagoromo is more overrated than momoshiki.
People fail to realise that when Hagoromo fought kaguya, it was his own power, no chakra fruit, and no tail beast, and he was young. Only after that battle did he become the jinchuriki of all 9 tail beasts. He was just a humble man, that is why he never boasted of his power, but anyone with a brain knows that he was stronger than kaguya after the fight. I would go as far as saying he could beat isshiki, based off of the fact that baryon mode naruto made isshiki his b*tch during the beginning of the fight.
@@thorfinn_saga Except Hagaromo’s soul is in the pure lands, he didn’t transcend and join god or nirvana. U can become free from the human wrld, not be bound by science (like u can fly) and not be omnipotent or omniscient or be in nirvana lol, take ur religion somewhere else
A Three way versus Battle between Achnogia *(Fairy Tail)* vs Shikoutazer *(Akame Ga Kill)* vs Calamity Ganon *(Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild).* Who wins and why?
So...........a dude who transcended the very concepts of life and death......space and time.......this guy is outerversal hax wise....potency wise he is barely universal or lower
No he didn’t if that was true the power he gave to naruto and sasuke would be nothing to her and naruto was holding her off for the others for hours on end and he have th both half of his power and he just gave them his regular chakra he could have given them tailed beast chakra to boost them mother 18x so it was no where near his full power also he said that referring to him before he absorbed all chakra and gained all dojutsu and tailed beast chakra/six paths chakra/ten tails chakra and even zero tails chakra it was stated to have a special chakra called anti chakra that fed off other chakra so basically infinite chakra he’s much more busted then kaguya who only has a couple of these powers
Isshiki and Kaguya, not to mention Momoshiki surpassed him in Power! However, he's capable! What does that mean! Mike Tyson could beat the crap out of Mark Zuckerberg yet Facebook's impactfulness surpassed Tyson's legend.
I mean I don't see how isshiki is beating an hagaromo who has infinite access iznagi and has power that is equal to naruto and sasuke combined and even more so because the power obtained isn't the 10 tails derived chairs its literally his genetic heritage naruto got the sages body meanwhile sasuke got the sages eyes. I don't know how you can beat a reality warper that has attack potency of naruto and sasuke combined and even more because of the 10 tails juubi
@@tysolbohan6446 Isshiki would render all of the sage’s attacks in-effective by simply reducing all the Sage’s attacks into molecular sized nothings and then warping them away into realms within his cubes, bringing them back to attack the sage at any time. The massive black cubes and the rods are innumerable in his arsenal and his speed was greater than what Sasuke with the augmented six path Rinnegan had seen before. Isshiki using Sukunahikona and Daikokuten can shrink himself in an instant and enter his dimension and leave it at will. He only faced off against Naruto who was stronger than him because he had only 3 days to live, 3 days, and he didn’t want his vessel Kawaki to escape. But he could absorb any jutsu, and natural energy attacks would be shrunk and stored away. So how could the Sage hit him or hurt him even with the ten tails? Not to mention he could pull localized space into one of his sealing realms. Can the Sage utilize different realms at will including a Sealing (fuinjutsu) realm that Isshiki can activate once he leaves it?
@@avernikas Well the sage is a progenitor of the sharingan any derivatives of abilities possible has to derive from what he had as all sharingan abilities are derivates of yang release and the sage is the progenitor of yin and yang release. So he can very easily use kamui but even assuming he didn't posses mangekyo sharingan specific abilities sasuke who gained his rinnegan got it from hagaromo seeing as its not his rinnegan and he can't deactivate at will and its special ability is literally dimension travel this is a non feat also if kaguya can dimension travel and the sage is her direct son why wouldn't the sage have it maybe he wouldn't be at base as fast as kaguyas dimension travel but he should certainly have 50 percent otsutsuki blood and every otsutsuki character so far has exhibited dimension travel so it wouldn't make sense. So BFR solutions are out even if isshiki through every rod at him how is it gonna kill him if him as the 10 tails has infinite chakra and can spam iznagi like wtf is jigen gonna do? "oh yeah you killed me well here I am again and again and again." The issue here is the hack of shrinking everything but he cannot shrink or a susanoo or 8 gates and he's particularly weak to taijutsu as baryon mode utilised only physical attacks. So putting this together the sage of the 6 paths in base without the 10 tails is equivalent to naruto and sasuke combined he has much more chakra than naruto and even the tailed beasts because he's half otsutsuki naturally then he absorbs the 10 tails and gets nigh infinite chakra and access to jesus level hacks including but not limited to full scale reality bending causality manipulation bringing the dead back to life. I just don't see isshiki winning this every hack isshiki has hagaromo has a counter to I mean how do you kill a guy that literally can manipulate reality to make it so he cannot die? Isshiki though has a soul as all things in naruto do as he utilises chakra and chakra is a blend of spirit and physical energy so if he has a soul hagaromo can rip his soul out like it was a tuna can there are caveats 1 has to be stronger than the user they are trying to rip the soul out of if not there is a few seconds gap and 1 has to touch the opponent as well so I'm aware of the limitations but it's not impossible for hagaromo to touch him sasuke was able to with a sword if he has nigh infinite chakra he can create nigh infinite clones and he is not 1 shotting hagaromo clones bear in mind those clones also have access to the Iznagi so lets say jigen 1 shots the susanoo each at a time the sage can just keep conjuring up more suanoos due to the iznagi eventually 1 is gonna touch isshiki and then it's game over.
@@tysolbohan6446 The Sage didn't know Izanagi. Bjarne Stroustrup is the inventor of C++ but he cannot take credit for most game engines written in C++ just because he created the language.
@@tysolbohan6446 Secondly, Isshiki uses Shinjutsu, a superior form of Jutsu. Isshiki Doujutsu is the Dharma wheel, 8 whereas Hagoromo uses 6 paths meaning there would be paths of display that would surpass the Sage's limited abilities. As I said, Isshiki's dimensional abilities alone would squash the sage who showed no dimensional abilities whatso ever, Isshiki can also seal dimensions.
How large is the cosmolgy of the the Nasuverse series? The Nasuverse is based on a metaphysical object called the Root which can create a large number of timelines but it seems like it can only support a limited amount of them all at once. So it erases those that deems undesirable based on information and examples from Fate Grand Order with the Lostbelts so it appears that the Root is a low level multiversal object in power. From my point of view the Root seems only 6th Dimensional based on it's cosmological limits and capacity.
Hagaromo is strong but idk why people saying he surpasses Isshiki. - Isshiki has thousands of years of experience. - Is Kaguya's superior(and the superior Otsutsuki in a pair is the stronger one). -Kaguya had to attack him while he was off guard. - Essentially one tapped full power Naruto and Sasuke while heavily nerfed in jigen's body. - Made Kurama resort to sacrificing his life and activating Baryon mode to drain his lifespan, Nerfing him more. - Is an 8 paths level character with an 8 paths dojutsu, which among the abilities are wish granting. Hax fall under tremendous strength, and Hagaromo even in his prime was never portrayed to be beyond six paths tier. He's even referred to as "The Sage of Six Paths". All of this, and yet Isshiki was never able to unleash his true power, as to do so he needed kawaki as a vessel. In other words, he did all of this while nerfed. In addition, this means he never utilized his 8 paths dojutsu to its fullest. Isshiki sons Hagaromo.
I mean a dude with less experience in using chakra( all types of chakra) and a weaker body and stamina using probably less than 1/2 of hagoromo's prime power was able to outbox and momentarily bully isshiki with that unleashed less than 1/2 hagoromo power
@@salahsaleem518 i was kidding bro. There are many reasons that hagoromo will win and even if you defeat 1 hagoromo there a millions of hagoromo out there.
I mean a dude with less experience in using chakra( all types of chakra) and a weaker body and stamina using probably less than 1/2 of hagoromo's prime power was able to outbox and momentarily bully isshiki with that unleashed less than 1/2 hagoromo power
@@bossshxtonly again you weren’t talking about prime kaguya and there is proof of what he did he had enough chakra to spam infinite izanagi with no drawbacks and after he dispersed his chakra and died gave naruto and sasuke two quarters of his power which were strong enough to amp them a shit ton and fight kaguya and that’s after he was weakened hago with the ten tails plus all the chakra in the world fucks any character in naruto and boruto because when he dispersed the chakra at that time isshiki/Jigen was alive during that time and that means hago gave a weak jigen chakra strong enough to fight naruto and sasuke and that was a very very small portion of the chakra he dispersed to the entire planet so no hago with all of his chakra bodies the fuck out of isshiki if he literally had all the chakra and it was enough to do that and that was after he absorbed kaguya’s power at that moment and then the ten tails too plus if half of hagoromo’s strength is enough to rival kaguya after he lost all of his chakra and he’s stronger than her based off of only that with no ten tails with ten tails and again all that chakra hagoromo > anyone in his verse
@@bossshxtonly You do realize that ghost Hagoromo is not prime Hagoromo? Juubidara being close to ghost Hagoromo does not mean Juubidara is close to prime Hagoromo. Naruto and Sasuke only sealed Kaguya in a shorter amount of time because they had help from Obito, Kakashi, and Sakura. They also got the sun and moon seals directly from ghost Hagoromo. If Hagoromo didn't help them, they wouldn't have been able to seal Kaguya, and would've lost against her. Also, ghost Hagoromo said Juubidara was AROUND his own current power. That does not mean that Juubidara is equal to ghost Hagoromo.
Prime isshiki is way stronger because he has more experience in battle than hagoromo, isshiki also has access to eight path abilities which grants him abilities that can one shot hagoromo.
Space in the Narutoverse in a dimension context refers to time-space or universe i explained that in his server and noodles server u can check that out anyway I wanted to explain it here but I'm 2 lazy to do that and I'm tired explaining it basically daily 😅.
When you said indra surpassed hagoromo did you mean hagoromo before becoming a jinchuriki or after becoming one, because if it's after then indra is just stupid powerful then.
I don't think you can use newton's laws in the naruto universe. Also just because a person can hit or give off high amounts of power doesn't necessarily mean they can tank that same amount of power.
I mean it says fantasy can be made into reality doesn’t that mean if he imagines someone dead then he can make that death reality and that person is dead ?
And naruto is technically universal, since he defeated Kaguya and Momoshiki - who created dimensions with their own universes. He also had the tsb, which the databook states as having the power to obliterate a universe.
Anything he imagines happens I kind of feel like ywach would be more a challenge because they kind of have the same abilities but hogo transcends reality logic time death and nothingness he’s too unfair to fight
Yes far stronger, however Hagoromo abilities make him almost unbeatable so being stronger doesn’t matter if you opponent is this much more hax and than you.
@@gucci_9054 theoretically hogoromo can even bring forth an infinite sets of hogoromo via COAT, not to mention he's the only one who's understood the very nature of chakra i. E physical and mental/spiritual energies, spiritual energy/yin power being said to govern imagination itself and physical energy/yang power to govern life itself. So basically if he imagines an infinite numbers of himself then it'll appear, like even itachi with tsukyomi Genjutsu world has an infinite itachis within that so hogoromo being infinitely superior can easily bring it to reality via COAT and then GG
@@lookeshdas455 bu the thing is over all of hog intelligence he still took months with his brother to take down kaguya not to mention even stated that she was stronger than him, so even when it comes to how much he knows about chakra it wouldn’t matter
:'' Attentively watching over the people with transmigrated souls: Walking through an eternity of samsara an endless cycle of death and rebirth''. This literally proves, hagoromo ''left'' samsara aka, the wheel of existence. Meaning, he was a buddha and reached/attained or whatever you wanna call it, nirwana in (buddhism) or moskha in ( hinduism). A state where you become one with brahman, the immanent, eternal, transcendental and absolute existence/reality. There is only brahman. You can google it yourself if you're interest, but that means, he is literally one of the strongest characters in fiction. There are only other brahman or dao characters that are his equals. Like Sun Wukong from the original journey to the west or characters from naruto that are illogically stronger than him, but logically as strong as him( like kaguya,kinshiki,momoshiki,naruto,sasuke etc) bc nothing can be stronger than the cosmic dao or brahman. even if you say its ficiton, so they can say. we gonna make something stronger than this, but its simply impossible. You can just blurt it out, but nothing you will say/show to prove it, will prove it. bc there is only dao or brahman, and brahman or dao are everything or differently formulated. You cannot transcend the absolute. But hey, we got people debating in 2021, if the strongest characters in the whole franchise are merely planet level. Dont get me wrong. People who believe that, its fine, do what you cant stop. Im not gonna coerce my opinion onto you, just because it based on the knowledge of the author, bc in the end, its just an opinion, but it would be nice to not spread misinformation.
Dont know what a brahman is But literally being beyond everything and capable of doing anything Surely makes hagoromo boundless in a tiering sense (like a vs battle wiki) My thing is hagoromo is still afraid of his mother meaning she is boundless +1 And she basically ate 2 of earths chakra fruits Through madara When black zetsu betrayed madara he did the summoning to bring bacl kagaya and she absorbed another fruit Earths chakra fruit is massive and filled with rich chakra And not only that its filled with senjutsu making it extremely rare and powerful (Senjutsu is foreign to otsutsuki as stated by momoshiki when a a otsutsuki harvest a planet it kills it and any inhabitants He himself admits ever planet he's harvested produces a very small chakra fruit we know its at least 9 and the inhabitants were primitive) Kaguya is too op And the only thing stopping her is another too op character
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 the thing to is . Naming it that way just for the sake of clarifying, the cosmic dao and brahman tier cannot be quantified. You can say he is infinitely boundless and it’s not true bc he is incalculably beyond that. A definition is a boundary. We only „ know „ something about cosmic dao or Brahman for having a notion about it, thus we can converse about it. The actuality is, you know it, when you do not.
@@fuckingking6796 Hagoromo is immortal by being a full-fledged ten tails jinchuriki, but he chose to die because he wanted to live like a human. Hagoromo have the evolutions of the rinnegan called red rinnegan, blue rinnegan, golden rinnegan which grants him new six path abilities. Hagoromo as a ghost managed to give naruto and sasuke 50% of his six path chakra in dimensional plane. Hagoromo could use his exclusive rinnegan ability which allows him to turn fantasy into reality with the creation of all things.
both of them are out of time, space and reality... all these are irrelevant compared to them,,, so that's a stalemate .... the fight is irrelevent if the fundamentals of physics are within both of their grasp who can control those... so, the fight cannot be a fight in the first place
Please do not ever comment on these types of videos again. Outervesal??? That would mean Hagoromo would be stronger than all of dragon ball combined. I really hope you're just trolling and do not actually mean this.
Prime Hogoromo is stronger than Kaguya(post fruit) , so we can assume he is stronger than Ishiki. Plus his abilities are insane(splits the 10 tails, creates insane jutsu, super strong susanoo)
@@gamingfiredrago Prime isshiki is far stronger than prime hagoromo. Isshiki has a ten tails that he shrinked to fit kara hideout. Prime isshiki has faster regeneration and he also have access to eight path abilities which is beyond hagoromo six path abilities. Isshiki just have hax abilities that could one shot hagoromo in an instant.
@@yudasrain4774 boruto never created a pocket dimension with the Jougan. Also you can not assume what the Jougan can do as we have barely seen it in action.
I think they are Even, it would be 50/50.They would probabbly stalemate each other, Hagoromo has Infinite Izanagi, Yhwach has allmighty, there is no winner. Its stalemate.
I mean hagoromo just sits there, menacingly.
Because he’s that guy
He made the moon and trained his sage mode to unknown levels give it out like candy
Bro is sitting on truth seeking orbs
Nobody talks about anyone from the warring states period except Hashirama and madara. This dude lived 1000 years ago and people still talk about him. Nuff said
Just like kabuto said people like not know the legends not the full power everybody heard tje legesn of madara but nobody knew how strong he really was they kage were confident enough to think they could take him on even with the stories just to find out he was holding back the whole time and is a monster
Because they didnt see any other stronger ppl at the time
He's considered a god for a reason
Nice, been waiting for this video for quite a while
Hagoromo...
A very interesting one even by lore alone they have many good abilities and are very strong.
I've been waiting for this bruh
He's one of the most underrated character... Due to his power and knowledge, you could argue that he single handedly should solo Shippuden...
this, is amazing. I’ve been looking for an explanation like this for forever 💯
Let's goo I've been wating for the goat to post this
Overall hogoromo powers: Omnipotent,
Omnipresent
And people say Naruto and Sasuke could beat Hagoromo and Hamura 😭rubish
They probably could naruto and sasuke inherited his power
But going by boruto logic
They never did and all the feats the did are non canon
Hagoromo and are basically the strongest duo in the verse. Naruto and Sasuke basically got a portion of his power he had as a ghost, which he obviously took back to nerf them...
hey bro whatsup im big fan
@@bossshxtonlymomoshik has far less powers than than any ten tails Jin.
As he doesn't have regeneration or ability to use yin-yang to nullify any non senjutstu or six path Chakra powerd jutsu.
Not to mention that bourto and kage can keep up with him
@@bossshxtonly Hagoromo is half otsutsuki with dual rinnegan and 10 tails jinchuriky, and has six paths sage mode
Naruto only has the 9 tails, six paths sage mode and is like max IDK 8% Otsutsuki, Naruto is literally inferior in every single way to Hagoromom in genetics, in sage mode, in the tailed beast department, in dojutsu
i wasn't expecting this im glad you uploaded
Since there are a lot of dudes in Naruto who claim they are gods, I think Hagaromo is even past god level, he's a Supreme Being.
I mean hagoromo is very powerful and he is a god-tier character but there are many characters in the naruto/boruto verse that can actually beat him with no difficulty.
@@mobarenleidowu1336 being none he ran the shit with his mom and beat his brother with normal eyes
@@mobarenleidowu1336 he would destroy jigen and ishiki
@@mobarenleidowu1336 he has the rinnesharigan with the 9 tomoe
@@mobarenleidowu1336 and he has the best healing in naruro
YES YES YES YES FINALLY YOU DID IT MY GUY
Love these videos plz don’t stop
FINALLY YOURE THE GOAT 🐐
What do you mean All things in Existence? What level is that exactly?
Is it beyond universal or is it just universal? It's also stated in the data books that kinshiki can Obliterate All Things. Bullet, what is this level and what does it mean?
-AKid from Discord
Shinra Bansho can mean Universe but could also be interpreted as literally everything
@@KingBullet123 Thanks man! I appreciate it! and I just finished the video!
@@KingBullet123 Does shinra bansho apply to Kinshiki as well or is that just something different?
@@KingBullet123 Still there?
@Blesson Franklin I don't really know.
I can’t wait for more!!
With time remnants he can actually come up infinite in numbers and be nigh unbeatable
If this guy was a villain it would take just as much plot armor from Bleach characters took to beat Yhwach to beat him too
Agreed
He way more op than ywach
@@boss_man6939
stfu base yhwach wrecks him
@@smal750 Imagine 💀
@@seraph8737 base yhwach wrecks him
After death Hagoromo in pure lands is beyond time, space, life and death.
Tell him to get past 1r madara
@@rudeffx_1phe's way past due to being able to keep up with peak kaguya with base hamura. And both of them weren't at their peaks yet at that point
@@Novakage-g5n nice filler argument
@@rudeffx_1p in the manga and light novel as well
@@rudeffx_1phe is above 1 Rinnegan Madara, but not against Rinnesharingan Madara
Bro i think indra,s raw power was no where near Hagoromo,s because Hagoromo have TRUTH SEEKING ORBS,SAGE OF SIX PATHS,SUSANO WITH MOST RAW POWER,and UNDEBATEDLY STRONGER DOJUTSU YIN and YANG Release
Talk that humans didn't have chakra before hagaromo gave it out ish👏🏿
So basically they would've been the perfect counter for otsusuki then
@@bossshxtonly wym it was said he distributed it/Gave it out
@@bossshxtonly No they didn’t. He gave it out AND he taught them ninshu.
Good video king bullet
Remember while Hagoromo is just so spiritually inclined he in death is above everyone else he somehow has become more powerful while alive he was weaker than Kaguya and now he might while dead be stronger than Isshiki
what? lol, as a ghost he's weaker or at the same level as when he was alive
@@Rck-vert hagoromo is being of death and beyond it meaning he is connected to the pure land that place has infinite chakra
@@Rck-vert not at all actually
Isshiki and kaguya are powerful than hagoromo.
@@mobarenleidowu1336isshiki maybe but not kaguya. Remember she lost to base hagoromo and base hamura who weren't at their peak yet, with the intent to kill them
Didn’t start the video and I already liked it
Hagoromo vs Isshiki would be an interesting video.
Hagoromo neggs ishiki like nothing
I mean a dude with less experience in using chakra( all types of chakra) and a weaker more restricted body and stamina using probably less than 1/2 of hagoromo's prime power was able to outbox and momentarily bully isshiki with that unleashed less than 1/2 hagoromo power
Just saying
@@bossshxtonly Hagoromo didn't give exactly half of his power. He gave Sasuke six paths chakra which took him from below blind Madara to Juubi Madara's level. Hagoromo prime power was talked about throughout the series. Hagoromo and his brother could fight Kaguya and the Juubi for months that's featless to you? Dumb point. The only reason they beat Kaguya was because of the seal Hagoromo gave them we don't know when Hagoromo and Hamura made this seal to defeated Kaguya. Naruto used Hagoromo's power to neg Madara.
Isshiki fodderizes hagoromo with no difficulty.
I subscribed I really like your power scaling for the naruto verse too many people try to down play. Also at 4:34 if kaguya has 5 dimensions and can destroy them and they are universe sized isn’t she multiversal multidimensional level?
That's low multiversal, also it was never confirmed if all her 6 dimensions are going to be destroyed, so its more like She's Universal+
No I don’t think she tried to get all 6 but I was just thinking if she can truth seeker all of them even if one by one that should be multidimensional no? Plus being able to freely travel and manipulate the environment in all of them. Maybe I’m wrong sounds like it works tho lol
@@boss_man6939 Yes that's Universal+ tier
Bro wtf, She said her self that those were her time spaces.
She create those dimensions with ETSB, And the first act of ETSB is always destruction and engulfs everything then creates a new time space.
So her all 5 dimensions are gone thro first act of destruction, This proves that kaguya is capable of destroying all 5 dimensions.
@@thatsthemusixs1956 she definitely created those 6 dimensions but the question is if with that ETSB she was going to destroy all 6 at once or just that one dimension they were in, that's why it's not sure if that's qualifying enough for Low Multi Kaguya, as I said Uni+ is the safe bet
Yea it even stated that he had given naruto the knowledge of all things. A sage is a keeper of ways and knowledge. So he knew everything
Can you also do a full power video on Madara? I think that would be very interesting imo. But don't rush yourself on it, take your time as I know your still in university. Btw keep up the good work!
@Blesson Franklin yeah i was thinking the same
@Blesson Franklin yeah that makes since
@Blesson Franklin Yeah you can make that claim. It's borderline stupidly hax'd just like the hogyuku.
@Blesson Franklin Facts. Hopefully we see more of both later in the series.
@Blesson Franklin 😐. Optards are making their return. Also one of my friends yesterday showed me a screenshot of him debating another dude and he said if whitebeard used the tremor tremor fruit 30 times on the same area, the universe would be destroyed 😂😭
Hey nice vid but sometimes when u talk talk like universesss or powerss
Love it teacher
Able to bend time and go back and fourth through it yessssss
He's op
@@DarkGator31 yeah op asf the rennigan is so busted
i really like the power scaling videos, they're really good, think you could do one on ichigo?
Universal+
@@user-tm2ik1wx1v universal at least
@@user-tm2ik1wx1v no his multi planet bozo
@@smal750 multiplanet no less or more smh 🤦♂️ yhwaach best feats is lifting wanderiech that is Planet-multi planet Ichigo overpowered him make him multiplanet-large planet-star stop wankin ur fav chat
@@ansshd6819
let's debate on why they are at least multiversal and their presence erase the narutoverse
Epic bro u are the best but can u make a how strong is saske adult now or saske vs momoshiki or kaguya ect
He already did momoshiki
@@dungeon-wn4gw no . Not saske vs momoshiki just a momoshiki video.
You should debate Spencer on hagoromo
He really should
Hagoromo is broken af.
Hagoromo vs Yhwach, let's get it. 🔥
Yhwach would win
@@saitamaknowsdeway2393 hagoromo smacks
Yhwach probably he's too much haxxed
@@lookeshdas455 hagoromo has literally every ability in naruto how does he have more hax
So if hagoromo beats yhwach then basically hagoromo beats goku cus yhwach beats goku
he taught us newtons laws of motion to
I don't think Indra surpassed Hagoromo even in raw power. Old Hagoromo gave Asura the power to fight Indra.
It was like both their powers combine
@@KingBullet123 But we saw what Asura could do with that Rasengan thing. So we can make a logical assumption and say most of it came from old Hagoromo.
@@joshuaaboo4767 there’s no way to prove how much was given. It was Ashura’s power + Hagoromo’s that defeated Indra
@@KingBullet123 In that "filler" episode once Indra went perfect Susano'o Asura was completely out match. Only after unlock SO6P that's when he could compete with Indra. This power helped him fight Indra for years. SO6P which were given from Hagoromo. So ya most it was from Hagoromo.
@@joshuaaboo4767 if u watch the vid I show the statement Ashura inherented Hagoromo’s physical power prior
He if he cobtrols reality that means that he can stop people abilities from doing what their meant to do
technically yes
He simply has to imagine it
And boom you ain't got sh!t
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 i dont think its that easy...that is some next level hax...which breaks naruto's power scaling limitations....
could that be yin , or yang , maybe yin yang??
@@abhinavg-----9434 it already did lol💀
Dosent this make him like on par with characters like zeno if he can control reality itself
*rinngen only cam make dreams into reality
Unfortunately zeno can erase souls
So all he need just erase him from existence*
@@fuckingking6796 hagoromo can also take souls like nagato did to hanzo remember ? Zeno still slams
can you do a six paths naruto vs ishiki without his doujutsu video?
Isshiki wins
@@DarkGator31 no i dont think so, narutos taijutsu powers are on the same level as ishikis, you can see that if you watch the fight in the manga again, the real reason why ishiki destroyed naruto and sasuke was his shrinking ability, because there were moments were naruto alone had the upper hand but of course he uses his doujutsu and can escape
@@monkey.d.narutoackermann8015 baryon mode naruto lost against a sick isshiki
@@DarkGator31 because of the disadvantages kuruma himself said that naruto surpasses ishikis strenght with baryon mode and naruto even held back where he was strongest at the beginning and didnt really go all out because he had to buy time
@@DarkGator31 bayron was clearly obliterating him also NARUTO HAS THE SAME DISEASE HAGOROMO HAS he is sick as well. Plus ishiki lost as he died due to narutos ability so in a 1v1 naruto one due to his ability and naruto is alive and well.
Naruto power scaling was never really the best (on the fan's side) but damn does it hurt for people to be saying Momoshiki would body Hagaromo with no difficulty. Heck, people legit think Momoshiki could easily beat Kaguya (that's not the case for anyone wondering, it's really not). Thanks for at least giving Hagaromo the spotlight he deserves.
Fact
Yeah the powerscaling started getting bad in Shippuden but in Boruto it's not even understandable anymore
People are really underestimating momoshiki. Momoshiki is the 2nd strongest character in the series while hagoromo is the 5th strongest character in the series. Momoshiki is basically a stronger version of hagoromo.
@@mobarenleidowu1336 No he's not,he is one of most overrated Naruto characters,kid boruto killed him
@@mikicapone3738 Bro, momoshiki had so many hax abilities but plot didn't allow him to use it, so he got nerfed. Hagoromo is more overrated than momoshiki.
People fail to realise that when Hagoromo fought kaguya, it was his own power, no chakra fruit, and no tail beast, and he was young. Only after that battle did he become the jinchuriki of all 9 tail beasts. He was just a humble man, that is why he never boasted of his power, but anyone with a brain knows that he was stronger than kaguya after the fight. I would go as far as saying he could beat isshiki, based off of the fact that baryon mode naruto made isshiki his b*tch during the beginning of the fight.
Hagoromo is literally omnipresent and omniscient and omnipotent and can rewrite reality. Im not sure why he is involved in and vs anime debate.
he's non of those, this video is full of assumptions and filler feats
@@Rck-vert not at all. Cap
@@Rck-vert he is literally present in nirvana ! A samadhi state ! You probably don't know what samadhi is cuz it's a hindu thing !
@@thorfinn_saga Except Hagaromo’s soul is in the pure lands, he didn’t transcend and join god or nirvana. U can become free from the human wrld, not be bound by science (like u can fly) and not be omnipotent or omniscient or be in nirvana lol, take ur religion somewhere else
I bet When hagoromo goes full power, he can beat Naruto (Baryon mode)
A Three way versus Battle between Achnogia *(Fairy Tail)* vs Shikoutazer *(Akame Ga Kill)* vs Calamity Ganon *(Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild).*
Who wins and why?
I win cause I am real 🤣 they are fake.
So...........a dude who transcended the very concepts of life and death......space and time.......this guy is outerversal hax wise....potency wise he is barely universal or lower
@shanks the scarlet emperor no one says that tbh
@@ayushmanchatterjee8721 trust me they do even some think that delta and adult Sakura are stronger than him
he doesn't have outer hax, he's 5-6D
WTF Outversal?🤣🤣🤣
@@morningstarr07 he meant as hax,,, not like some destructive capability of dbz kamehameha which is universal
scale sinbad from magi
Hagoromo vs Yhwach?
Yhwach
Hagoromo
Hagoromo
@@DarkGator31 yhwach
@@yudasrain4774 yhwach
Nice
This is what people don't talk about crazy
Let's go!
Makes me wonder how strong kaguya is after all he did say she is stronger.
No he didn’t if that was true the power he gave to naruto and sasuke would be nothing to her and naruto was holding her off for the others for hours on end and he have th both half of his power and he just gave them his regular chakra he could have given them tailed beast chakra to boost them mother 18x so it was no where near his full power also he said that referring to him before he absorbed all chakra and gained all dojutsu and tailed beast chakra/six paths chakra/ten tails chakra and even zero tails chakra it was stated to have a special chakra called anti chakra that fed off other chakra so basically infinite chakra he’s much more busted then kaguya who only has a couple of these powers
Isshiki and Kaguya, not to mention Momoshiki surpassed him in Power! However, he's capable! What does that mean! Mike Tyson could beat the crap out of Mark Zuckerberg yet Facebook's impactfulness surpassed Tyson's legend.
I mean I don't see how isshiki is beating an hagaromo who has infinite access iznagi and has power that is equal to naruto and sasuke combined and even more so because the power obtained isn't the 10 tails derived chairs its literally his genetic heritage naruto got the sages body meanwhile sasuke got the sages eyes.
I don't know how you can beat a reality warper that has attack potency of naruto and sasuke combined and even more because of the 10 tails juubi
@@tysolbohan6446 Isshiki would render all of the sage’s attacks in-effective by simply reducing all the Sage’s attacks into molecular sized nothings and then warping them away into realms within his cubes, bringing them back to attack the sage at any time. The massive black cubes and the rods are innumerable in his arsenal and his speed was greater than what Sasuke with the augmented six path Rinnegan had seen before. Isshiki using Sukunahikona and Daikokuten can shrink himself in an instant and enter his dimension and leave it at will.
He only faced off against Naruto who was stronger than him because he had only 3 days to live, 3 days, and he didn’t want his vessel Kawaki to escape. But he could absorb any jutsu, and natural energy attacks would be shrunk and stored away. So how could the Sage hit him or hurt him even with the ten tails? Not to mention he could pull localized space into one of his sealing realms. Can the Sage utilize different realms at will including a Sealing (fuinjutsu) realm that Isshiki can activate once he leaves it?
@@avernikas Well the sage is a progenitor of the sharingan any derivatives of abilities possible has to derive from what he had as all sharingan abilities are derivates of yang release and the sage is the progenitor of yin and yang release.
So he can very easily use kamui but even assuming he didn't posses mangekyo sharingan specific abilities sasuke who gained his rinnegan got it from hagaromo seeing as its not his rinnegan and he can't deactivate at will and its special ability is literally dimension travel this is a non feat also if kaguya can dimension travel and the sage is her direct son why wouldn't the sage have it maybe he wouldn't be at base as fast as kaguyas dimension travel but he should certainly have 50 percent otsutsuki blood and every otsutsuki character so far has exhibited dimension travel so it wouldn't make sense.
So BFR solutions are out even if isshiki through every rod at him how is it gonna kill him if him as the 10 tails has infinite chakra and can spam iznagi like wtf is jigen gonna do?
"oh yeah you killed me well here I am again and again and again."
The issue here is the hack of shrinking everything but he cannot shrink or a susanoo or 8 gates and he's particularly weak to taijutsu as baryon mode utilised only physical attacks.
So putting this together the sage of the 6 paths in base without the 10 tails is equivalent to naruto and sasuke combined he has much more chakra than naruto and even the tailed beasts because he's half otsutsuki naturally then he absorbs the 10 tails and gets nigh infinite chakra and access to jesus level hacks including but not limited to full scale reality bending causality manipulation bringing the dead back to life.
I just don't see isshiki winning this every hack isshiki has hagaromo has a counter to I mean how do you kill a guy that literally can manipulate reality to make it so he cannot die?
Isshiki though has a soul as all things in naruto do as he utilises chakra and chakra is a blend of spirit and physical energy so if he has a soul hagaromo can rip his soul out like it was a tuna can there are caveats 1 has to be stronger than the user they are trying to rip the soul out of if not there is a few seconds gap and 1 has to touch the opponent as well so I'm aware of the limitations but it's not impossible for hagaromo to touch him sasuke was able to with a sword if he has nigh infinite chakra he can create nigh infinite clones and he is not 1 shotting hagaromo clones bear in mind those clones also have access to the Iznagi so lets say jigen 1 shots the susanoo each at a time the sage can just keep conjuring up more suanoos due to the iznagi eventually 1 is gonna touch isshiki and then it's game over.
@@tysolbohan6446 The Sage didn't know Izanagi. Bjarne Stroustrup is the inventor of C++ but he cannot take credit for most game engines written in C++ just because he created the language.
@@tysolbohan6446 Secondly, Isshiki uses Shinjutsu, a superior form of Jutsu. Isshiki Doujutsu is the Dharma wheel, 8 whereas Hagoromo uses 6 paths meaning there would be paths of display that would surpass the Sage's limited abilities. As I said, Isshiki's dimensional abilities alone would squash the sage who showed no dimensional abilities whatso ever, Isshiki can also seal dimensions.
How large is the cosmolgy of the the Nasuverse series?
The Nasuverse is based on a metaphysical object called the Root which can create a large number of timelines but it seems like it can only support a limited amount of them all at once. So it erases those that deems undesirable based on information and examples from Fate Grand Order with the Lostbelts so it appears that the Root is a low level multiversal object in power.
From my point of view the Root seems only 6th Dimensional based on it's cosmological limits and capacity.
Ask Kishimoto
@@primeramarmot101
Why?
@@thorshammer7883 My bad I misread that as Narutoverse lol
Hagoromo has both tomoed rinnegan
Really?
@@xiiithegod it’s only logical since he gave one to sasuke but this is only speculations
okay i think it's cool how strong Hogoromo is but what my be stronger is Naruto's voice he had the same voice since he was a little kid
Hagaromo is strong but idk why people saying he surpasses Isshiki.
- Isshiki has thousands of years of experience.
- Is Kaguya's superior(and the superior Otsutsuki in a pair is the stronger one).
-Kaguya had to attack him while he was off guard.
- Essentially one tapped full power Naruto and Sasuke while heavily nerfed in jigen's body.
- Made Kurama resort to sacrificing his life and activating Baryon mode to drain his lifespan, Nerfing him more.
- Is an 8 paths level character with an 8 paths dojutsu, which among the abilities are wish granting.
Hax fall under tremendous strength, and Hagaromo even in his prime was never portrayed to be beyond six paths tier. He's even referred to as "The Sage of Six Paths".
All of this, and yet Isshiki was never able to unleash his true power, as to do so he needed kawaki as a vessel. In other words, he did all of this while nerfed. In addition, this means he never utilized his 8 paths dojutsu to its fullest.
Isshiki sons Hagaromo.
I mean a dude with less experience in using chakra( all types of chakra) and a weaker body and stamina using probably less than 1/2 of hagoromo's prime power was able to outbox and momentarily bully isshiki with that unleashed less than 1/2 hagoromo power
@@salahsaleem518 The power Naruto used to overpower Isshiki isn't connected to Hagaromo...
bc he does surpass ishikki with 0 diff
@@salahsaleem518 i was kidding bro. There are many reasons that hagoromo will win and even if you defeat 1 hagoromo there a millions of hagoromo out there.
@@waifuislaifu8791 nope
I like the bleach manga reference at the beginning.
Good
Damn, he's been hiding this power.
I mean a dude with less experience in using chakra( all types of chakra) and a weaker body and stamina using probably less than 1/2 of hagoromo's prime power was able to outbox and momentarily bully isshiki with that unleashed less than 1/2 hagoromo power
@@bossshxtonly again you weren’t talking about prime kaguya and there is proof of what he did he had enough chakra to spam infinite izanagi with no drawbacks and after he dispersed his chakra and died gave naruto and sasuke two quarters of his power which were strong enough to amp them a shit ton and fight kaguya and that’s after he was weakened hago with the ten tails plus all the chakra in the world fucks any character in naruto and boruto because when he dispersed the chakra at that time isshiki/Jigen was alive during that time and that means hago gave a weak jigen chakra strong enough to fight naruto and sasuke and that was a very very small portion of the chakra he dispersed to the entire planet so no hago with all of his chakra bodies the fuck out of isshiki if he literally had all the chakra and it was enough to do that and that was after he absorbed kaguya’s power at that moment and then the ten tails too plus if half of hagoromo’s strength is enough to rival kaguya after he lost all of his chakra and he’s stronger than her based off of only that with no ten tails with ten tails and again all that chakra hagoromo > anyone in his verse
@@bossshxtonly You do realize that ghost Hagoromo is not prime Hagoromo? Juubidara being close to ghost Hagoromo does not mean Juubidara is close to prime Hagoromo. Naruto and Sasuke only sealed Kaguya in a shorter amount of time because they had help from Obito, Kakashi, and Sakura. They also got the sun and moon seals directly from ghost Hagoromo. If Hagoromo didn't help them, they wouldn't have been able to seal Kaguya, and would've lost against her.
Also, ghost Hagoromo said Juubidara was AROUND his own current power. That does not mean that Juubidara is equal to ghost Hagoromo.
@@bossshxtonly cap
Prime isshiki is way stronger because he has more experience in battle than hagoromo, isshiki also has access to eight path abilities which grants him abilities that can one shot hagoromo.
@@mobarenleidowu1336 cap. Prove it
Actually the time space translation is a wrong one, it actually just says Space
Space in the Narutoverse in a dimension context refers to time-space or universe i explained that in his server and noodles server u can check that out anyway I wanted to explain it here but I'm 2 lazy to do that and I'm tired explaining it basically daily 😅.
@@logicthewomanizer7579 can you link me to it
Viz which is official says time space
@@DarkGator31 Viz is wrong most of the times. The original translation from the RAWs state Space not space time
All, I know is he's weaker than Kaguya.
Depends Wich Hagoromo u talking about. And Wich Kaguya.
Not really Hagoromo straight up says Kaguya is stronger then himself
Lol, that's not true.
@@SRVaris when he was not ten tail jinchuriki
When you said indra surpassed hagoromo did you mean hagoromo before becoming a jinchuriki or after becoming one, because if it's after then indra is just stupid powerful then.
Indra and ashura in terms of like speed strength is stronger then prime hagoromo
But hax wise hagoromo is much stronger
@@IamVybez Where was that stated
@@Csdabest89 hagoromo said this lol
Tenten solos
I don't get it, Kaguya > Hagoromo. Isshiki > Kaguya. Naruto Baryon > Ishiki. I think Hagoromo is a god for shinobi, but not the strongest one.
Hogoromo solos everyone in narutoverse. So if you watched the video you should understabd why i said this.
Isshiki, momoshiki, urashiki, kaguya destroys hagoromo.
Can u scale Ichigo?
I don't think you can use newton's laws in the naruto universe. Also just because a person can hit or give off high amounts of power doesn't necessarily mean they can tank that same amount of power.
He obviously can. He fought kaguya for months pre-ten tails at that.
I mean it says fantasy can be made into reality doesn’t that mean if he imagines someone dead then he can make that death reality and that person is dead ?
That can't be argued very well because he's never done anything like that but strictly hypothetically he could
In theory full power hagoromo is stronger than kaguya and equal isshiki
Idk about that🧐
😂😂😂 no
How powerful is homura otsutsuki please.
Can you debunk ideashock he said luffy is billions of times faster then anyone in naruto and he said naruto not ftl or planetary
Naruto is FTL+, he dodged madara’s ftl attack and isshiki’s FTL+ rods.
And naruto is technically universal, since he defeated Kaguya and Momoshiki - who created dimensions with their own universes. He also had the tsb, which the databook states as having the power to obliterate a universe.
@@seraph8737 Mftl+
@@SlimzShady he’s shown no mftl feats, he’s only shown flt and flt+ speed feats.
@@seraph8737
naruto is universal and mftl+
Ooh lord🫂
Did he Transcend time?
Would hagoromo beat goku?
Many people say he can and idk how
He can't
No they dont they say he can beat ywatch dont know how to spell his name not goku.
Anything he imagines happens I kind of feel like ywach would be more a challenge because they kind of have the same abilities but hogo transcends reality logic time death and nothingness he’s too unfair to fight
@@boss_man6939 trancends logic, reality snd fate? Tf bro you're wanking the hell out of hogoromo
@@lookeshdas455 it was literally stated in the data book... there is no wanking
Quick question is naruto stronger than hog in baryon mode
Yes far stronger, however Hagoromo abilities make him almost unbeatable so being stronger doesn’t matter if you opponent is this much more hax and than you.
@@KingBullet123 wouldn’t that technically make him stronger than momoshiki and ishiki considering they both basically lost naruto
@@gucci_9054 in terms of raw power they're stronger than hogoromo, but in terms of speed and hax hogoromo is far beyond them
@@gucci_9054 theoretically hogoromo can even bring forth an infinite sets of hogoromo via COAT, not to mention he's the only one who's understood the very nature of chakra i. E physical and mental/spiritual energies, spiritual energy/yin power being said to govern imagination itself and physical energy/yang power to govern life itself. So basically if he imagines an infinite numbers of himself then it'll appear, like even itachi with tsukyomi Genjutsu world has an infinite itachis within that so hogoromo being infinitely superior can easily bring it to reality via COAT and then GG
@@lookeshdas455 bu the thing is over all of hog intelligence he still took months with his brother to take down kaguya not to mention even stated that she was stronger than him, so even when it comes to how much he knows about chakra it wouldn’t matter
does this This makes indra and asura uni+
:'' Attentively watching over the people with transmigrated souls: Walking through an eternity of samsara an endless cycle of death and rebirth''. This literally proves, hagoromo ''left'' samsara aka, the wheel of existence. Meaning, he was a buddha and reached/attained or whatever you wanna call it, nirwana in (buddhism) or moskha in ( hinduism). A state where you become one with brahman, the immanent, eternal, transcendental and absolute existence/reality. There is only brahman.
You can google it yourself if you're interest, but that means, he is literally one of the strongest characters in fiction. There are only other brahman or dao characters that are his equals. Like Sun Wukong from the original journey to the west or characters from naruto that are illogically stronger than him, but logically as strong as him( like kaguya,kinshiki,momoshiki,naruto,sasuke etc)
bc nothing can be stronger than the cosmic dao or brahman. even if you say its ficiton, so they can say. we gonna make something stronger than this, but its simply impossible. You can just blurt it out, but nothing you will say/show to prove it, will prove it. bc there is only dao or brahman, and brahman or dao are everything or differently formulated. You cannot transcend the absolute. But hey, we got people debating in 2021, if the strongest characters in the whole franchise are merely planet level. Dont get me wrong. People who believe that, its fine, do what you cant stop. Im not gonna coerce my opinion onto you, just because it based on the knowledge of the author, bc in the end, its just an opinion, but it would be nice to not spread misinformation.
Dont know what a brahman is
But literally being beyond everything and capable of doing anything
Surely makes hagoromo boundless in a tiering sense (like a vs battle wiki)
My thing is hagoromo is still afraid of his mother meaning she is boundless +1
And she basically ate 2 of earths chakra fruits
Through madara
When black zetsu betrayed madara he did the summoning to bring bacl kagaya and she absorbed another fruit
Earths chakra fruit is massive and filled with rich chakra
And not only that its filled with senjutsu making it extremely rare and powerful
(Senjutsu is foreign to otsutsuki as stated by momoshiki when a a otsutsuki harvest a planet it kills it and any inhabitants
He himself admits ever planet he's harvested produces a very small chakra fruit we know its at least 9 and the inhabitants were primitive)
Kaguya is too op
And the only thing stopping her is another too op character
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 the thing to is . Naming it that way just for the sake of clarifying, the cosmic dao and brahman tier cannot be quantified. You can say he is infinitely boundless and it’s not true bc he is incalculably beyond that. A definition is a boundary. We only „ know „ something about cosmic dao or Brahman for having a notion about it, thus we can converse about it. The actuality is, you know it, when you do not.
Star level at best
Universal+ 4D
Hagoromo is high multiversal at best.
@@mobarenleidowu1336 feats
@@fuckingking6796 Hagoromo is immortal by being a full-fledged ten tails jinchuriki, but he chose to die because he wanted to live like a human. Hagoromo have the evolutions of the rinnegan called red rinnegan, blue rinnegan, golden rinnegan which grants him new six path abilities. Hagoromo as a ghost managed to give naruto and sasuke 50% of his six path chakra in dimensional plane. Hagoromo could use his exclusive rinnegan ability which allows him to turn fantasy into reality with the creation of all things.
@@mobarenleidowu1336 this reality warp abilities not multiverse
He is the most strongest character in Naruto!
Is Hagoromo stronger than Naruto Hokage(Baryon mode)?
I mean hagoromo could technically use it if he wanted to
Lmao
He straight up admit
3rd eye madara>>>>>him
A weaker version of himself
@@devanplays3509 prove that
Who would win hagoromo or Yhwach?
Yhwach negs
Nah hagoromo
@@jadenjones693 yhwach
both of them are out of time, space and reality... all these are irrelevant compared to them,,, so that's a stalemate .... the fight is irrelevent if the fundamentals of physics are within both of their grasp who can control those... so, the fight cannot be a fight in the first place
@@smal750 Hagoromo stomps the bleach verse
He's a being a pure chakra and btw the samsara stuff can be used to take him all the way high to outerversal
Please do not ever comment on these types of videos again. Outervesal??? That would mean Hagoromo would be stronger than all of dragon ball combined. I really hope you're just trolling and do not actually mean this.
@@NewChannelSwitch actually no lol zeno Omni king
@@NewChannelSwitch and actually im not even trynna wank but he is pure chakra and has inf chakra soooo
How does Hagoroko compare to Isshiki
Prime Hogoromo is stronger than Kaguya(post fruit) , so we can assume he is stronger than Ishiki. Plus his abilities are insane(splits the 10 tails, creates insane jutsu, super strong susanoo)
@@gamingfiredrago Prime isshiki is far stronger than prime hagoromo. Isshiki has a ten tails that he shrinked to fit kara hideout. Prime isshiki has faster regeneration and he also have access to eight path abilities which is beyond hagoromo six path abilities. Isshiki just have hax abilities that could one shot hagoromo in an instant.
Hagoromo is low six paths tier like maybe six paths madara with 2 eyes
Nah he slaps madara
Finally a senseful person... Although I think Hagaramo at max is equal to 3 eyed Madara... But Hagaramo is fodder tho so Ion care
Ghost Hagaromo is that strong, not that prime Hagaromo.
@@kameronmiller2226 ghost hago is prime hago💀
@@speeddemon6365 No it isn’t, he doesn’t have the ten tails
Naruto is surely weak in strenght but the hax is💀
Where is gaara video
Wait wait didn't kaguya teleported sasuke and Naruto on a other dimension
Another yes
it’s filler right, can’t scale characters with filler
Anime cannon
Kishi says fillers and games are canon so yea he could
He was literally using manga scans.
"filler" is like Mecha Naruto. It strays away from the original story.
@@joshuaaboo4767 yeah
Can he beat Zeno tho
Hell no lol
Zeno is fodder. Naruto would speedblitz
They aren't from the same anime
@@Jesuisunmoutonforchrist cap
No Zeno is omnipotent
So the anime backstory for Kagyua is or isn’t cannon?
Oh and uh Yhwach vs hagoromo?
It is
Yes
Yhwach If you’re a bleach stan and Hago if you’re a Naruto stan
Kishi says all the games and fillers are even canon
@@boss_man6939 source?
This is very inaccurate scaling, as both the manga and anime state otherwise
no one in boruto, naruto verse can beat him
I agree
Many characters in the naruto/boruto verse can beat him. Isshiki, momoshiki, urashiki, kaguya, could beat hagoromo.
So he can do anything
*unknown if he truly can do anything
Isn’t the jougan stronger than the Rinnegan?
Yeah boruto creates his own pocket dimension with it
@@yudasrain4774 boruto never created a pocket dimension with the Jougan. Also you can not assume what the Jougan can do as we have barely seen it in action.
So can he beat Yhwach
Yes
I think they are Even, it would be 50/50.They would probabbly stalemate each other, Hagoromo has Infinite Izanagi, Yhwach has allmighty, there is no winner. Its stalemate.
No