Heart-Wrenching Fight Against Coercive Control: Hannah Clarke's Legacy - Sue and Lloyd Clarke | I Catch Killers Hannah Clarke was doused in petrol and set alight by her ex partner. He killed her and their three young children, Aaliyah, Laianah and Trey, in 2020. It is the worst possible outcome of family violence. Hannah’s parents, Sue and Lloyd Clarke, join Gary Jubelin to raise awareness about coercive control. If you or someone you know needs support, call 1800 737 732 or visit 1800respect.org.au or www.smallsteps4hannah.com.au. ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin True Crime Australia Listen on Apple Podcasts ► Connect With True Crime Australia Online: bit.ly/46xCXDb ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ► Subscribe To Our True Crime Australia RUclips Channel: bit.ly/3iU23Fm ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ► Follow Us on Facebook: facebook.com/TrueCrimeAustralia ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00 - Introduction - Sue and Lloyd Clarke 10:38 - Hannah Clarke: who was she? 16:16 - Children held at ransom 18:55 - Meeting the man who killed Hannah Clarke 26:04 - Becoming parents and a changing relationship 27:22 - King of the gym 32:28 - Don't be a bystander: speak up 34:12 - Making the decision to leave 44:32 - "But he's never hit me, mum". 51:16 - Hannah Clarke went to the police 53:45 - The day Hannah and her kids were killed #truecrime #truecrimeaustralia #crime #crimestory #crimejunkie
All the signs of a relationship between an empath and a narcissist. Love bombing, devaluing the victim, sense of entitlement, gas lighting, trauma bonding. I am speaking from experience. So sad that it ended in tragedy. The poor children. Well done, to the parents for increasing the understanding of this topic.
So you understand that an empath was a traumatised child.. this is generally from the mother projecting her self loathing onto her children.. this woman’s personality is highly narcissistic.
@@emp2715 hi there, I’m apologise for messaging 6 months after this came out, I am extremely passionate about all of this. I get what you’re saying, I understand how it comes across. Women in low vibrational state project their self loathing limiting beliefs and insecurities onto their children. This causes a destruction of the child’s self esteem, y the he father is highly emasculated and in your case highly narcissistic.. he is this way because of his own child hood.. this is the generational trauma that gets spoken about. As empathy we don’t free ourselves until we forgive our parents for being humans and we forgive ourselves for carrying all of this burden throughout our lives. My mother blamed my father for everything and still does.. it wasn’t until I went through a high conflict divorce, full on emotional healing and personal development that I was able to see through my mothers coercive control and manipulation.. once I did I held a boundary with myself and never reacted to her again… now I have respect for my mother and I now have a relationship with my father that I was never allowed to have. I now help men and women with self esteem and emotional management, so out of a bad thing a good came.
Great episode. Amazing parents for raising awareness. My sister was a victim of cc and died 18 mnths after giving birth to my nephew. Our family was not allowed to be a part of my nephews life due to the father, 2 yrs later the father murdered my nephew, his 3 yo son, so can kind of relate to this 😔 Our court case still going on. Keep up the good fight everyone affected here, thinking of you all. X
Truly gut wrenching story. Hannah's brave parents, bravo for telling Hannah and her 3 childrens story. Domestic violence is getting worse, something needs to be done to stop it. My cousin stabbed his wife to death 2 years ago. A young woman 2 blocks from where I live strangled to death. 2 women a suburb away shot to death. May they all RIP.
Wow, these parents are such an inspiration for what they have gone through… I could listen to them for hours! So inspired, thanks for this sharing your “devastating” story xo
The incredible courage of these beautiful parents. I never knew Hannah yet the dreadful story of what that most evil of monsters did to her and her children constantly reduces me to tears. I don’t think I could do a fraction of what these wonderful people are doing. Such goodness from such badness. Bless their beautiful hearts.
This was So heartbreaking 😢 As a victim of almost this exact relationship myself (but thankfully made it out alive) I felt ever word of this story and my heart goes out to Hannah and her whole family. It happens more than you know and we almost always feel mad and like it’s not really what’s happening, but it is and it’s so dangerous and real. 💔
19 years ago i got belted black and blue, he got 6 weeks in Silverwater. His mother was high profile Legal Aid. He got 6 months rehab with William Booth then moved to Miracle Haven. Came back and did it all over to me again. He has moved on new family etc. Im left with the nightmares, depression
@@lindamac2 it's so sad . I never understand how they can always seem to move on so easily & forget the damage they have caused or why they have another opportunity to be blessed with another. Makes me mad . But don't worry he will have to face his maker at death then he will be reminded. No one escapes death. Did he ever ask for forgiveness from you?
Hannah looked so much like her mother almost identical. What a beautiful healthy relationship tgey must have role modeled to their children such a shame she got preyed upon by that monster
there are certain events in life that you can remember exactly where you were when you heard the news.. john lennon the space shuttle princess diana and hannah clarke and her beautiful children. as a local of brisbane. the morning news report came in on triple m. tears aplenty.. absolutely horrified everyone.! rocks us to our core, to this very day.! 🥺🕯🕯🕯🕯🥺 #neverforgetournames #truthseekersunite #why #justice #zerotolerance #hannahslaw ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
This particular case I remember discussing with the DHHS workers when I was helping with the care of my nephew as my MIL was encouraged by others that the intervtion orders on my BIL should be dropped I've never cried so hard in my life when the DHHS workers said the courts over rule us so I suggest as you are saying and the court rules otherwise he can have access to the child and other family I cannot stop him. It's so hard to keep pushing to protect people you love when other family members don't see it and the court rules otherwise. I'll never let this case of Hannah leave my soul because the system literally said they cannot stop it.
I'm glad that we are talking about domestic violence more. We all know someone who has or is going through it. I think we should say something and help that person. This is what helped me change my life. For the better. The buck stops with me.
Am 77 and lived with domestic violence all my life so it's been going on forever. Just have to really get to know someone before moving in or committing to them
Gary, I strongly suggest you do a lot of research about the different type of narcissists. Bright empaths are moths to a flame for these types of people and they stay for many reasons. I believe this murderer was a Covert narcissist. Very insecure but display cockiness . You'll see how personalities like his go WAY beyond lack of emotional intelligence. Hannah was a trophy. The mindbending coersive abuse with insults and gaslighting behind doors, rattles and wears down secure strong women (and men) quite badly. Text book narcissist. There's a list of behaviours and it is eerie. These are the things women should be aware of. It hit me like a brick when I read them and recognised all of them.
I grew up in domestic violence, ispent my adult life working training and helping women and kids in dv I don't think it's getting worse it's always been bad it's just that we have social media everything is public I can tell you women have been killed or nearly beaten to death kids so traumatised they can't function I promise you it has always been bad
Any one that would burn anyone let alone 4 people he professed to love, to death is not worth the oxygen they breath. I couldn't believe this when I heard it. Then watched it on the news. So very sorry for the parents. It would hard to want to live after that......
Amen about using kids as a bargaining chip. I can't stand women like that. Women who punish the fathers by keeping their children from them. That's punishing your children too. Hannah was clearly an amazing woman and I definitely think it speaks volumes that she encouraged her children's relationships with their father. It's too bad he was a psychotic POS that didn't appreciate her.
Very, very, very fine line. I always sent my child with my heart in my throat and I had my reasons for that. I spoke with the domestic violence liason officer at my local police station about my concerns and why they existed. She said they could not pursue the other parent based on what I had presented because at that stage there was "no evidence of intent." However by the time there is evidence of intent, someone is usually seriously harmed. Or dead. In this case, 4 people. Dead. Not every mother who witholds her child/ren is an alienating parent. Sometimes it's literally a matter of life and death. And she knows it. So far, we have been lucky (touch wood) and I don't worry as much as I used to when my boy sees his Dad, which is very rare, because now he is older and more physically able to defend himself if he ever had to. I also stay very grey rock within co-parenting because if our child ever was hurt, the intent would absolutely be to punish me and take away the person I love the most. Not every situation like this 👆 has a peaceful ending. It's a roll of the dice and as Hannah's father states it depends on the mood of the disordered person and that can be very different day to day. I'm so sorry Hannah's and the childrens story didn't turn out better. All the warning signs were there and this is why coersive control laws are so very important. It's heartbreakingly difficult to get this right and absolutely tragic when it goes wrong. Beautiful souls, gone too soon. I see you Hannah and I understand. 🕊🕊🕊🕊
@@thegoddesswithin8859mothers abuse their children everyday and no one does anything about it! Do is not gender biased and the police need to learn how it all works much deeper.
Heart-Wrenching Fight Against Coercive Control: Hannah Clarke's Legacy - Sue and Lloyd Clarke | I Catch Killers
Hannah Clarke was doused in petrol and set alight by her ex partner. He killed her and their three young children, Aaliyah, Laianah and Trey, in 2020. It is the worst possible outcome of family violence. Hannah’s parents, Sue and Lloyd Clarke, join Gary Jubelin to raise awareness about coercive control.
If you or someone you know needs support, call 1800 737 732 or visit 1800respect.org.au or www.smallsteps4hannah.com.au.
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00:00 - Introduction - Sue and Lloyd Clarke
10:38 - Hannah Clarke: who was she?
16:16 - Children held at ransom
18:55 - Meeting the man who killed Hannah Clarke
26:04 - Becoming parents and a changing relationship
27:22 - King of the gym
32:28 - Don't be a bystander: speak up
34:12 - Making the decision to leave
44:32 - "But he's never hit me, mum".
51:16 - Hannah Clarke went to the police
53:45 - The day Hannah and her kids were killed
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All the signs of a relationship between an empath and a narcissist. Love bombing, devaluing the victim, sense of entitlement, gas lighting, trauma bonding. I am speaking from experience. So sad that it ended in tragedy. The poor children. Well done, to the parents for increasing the understanding of this topic.
So you understand that an empath was a traumatised child.. this is generally from the mother projecting her self loathing onto her children.. this woman’s personality is highly narcissistic.
@andrewreis-t2h in my case my mother was extremely empathetic, my father was the narcissist
@@emp2715 hi there, I’m apologise for messaging 6 months after this came out, I am extremely passionate about all of this. I get what you’re saying, I understand how it comes across. Women in low vibrational state project their self loathing limiting beliefs and insecurities onto their children. This causes a destruction of the child’s self esteem, y the he father is highly emasculated and in your case highly narcissistic.. he is this way because of his own child hood.. this is the generational trauma that gets spoken about. As empathy we don’t free ourselves until we forgive our parents for being humans and we forgive ourselves for carrying all of this burden throughout our lives. My mother blamed my father for everything and still does.. it wasn’t until I went through a high conflict divorce, full on emotional healing and personal development that I was able to see through my mothers coercive control and manipulation.. once I did I held a boundary with myself and never reacted to her again… now I have respect for my mother and I now have a relationship with my father that I was never allowed to have. I now help men and women with self esteem and emotional management, so out of a bad thing a good came.
Great episode. Amazing parents for raising awareness. My sister was a victim of cc and died 18 mnths after giving birth to my nephew. Our family was not allowed to be a part of my nephews life due to the father, 2 yrs later the father murdered my nephew, his 3 yo son, so can kind of relate to this 😔 Our court case still going on. Keep up the good fight everyone affected here, thinking of you all. X
I’m so sorry for you and your family.
@@melissadeleo2664 thank you
So very sorry for loss of your loved nephew
@@jonathanchant6655 thank you 🙏
Truly gut wrenching story. Hannah's brave parents, bravo for telling Hannah and her 3 childrens story. Domestic violence is getting worse, something needs to be done to stop it. My cousin stabbed his wife to death 2 years ago. A young woman 2 blocks from where I live strangled to death. 2 women a suburb away shot to death. May they all RIP.
Huge thanks to Gary Jubelin for the fantastic podcasts you bring to us.
He's good enough to be a Queenslander!
No professional can help someone like that
Wow, these parents are such an inspiration for what they have gone through… I could listen to them for hours! So inspired, thanks for this sharing your “devastating” story xo
The incredible courage of these beautiful parents. I never knew Hannah yet the dreadful story of what that most evil of monsters did to her and her children constantly reduces me to tears. I don’t think I could do a fraction of what these wonderful people are doing. Such goodness from such badness. Bless their beautiful hearts.
This was So heartbreaking 😢
As a victim of almost this exact relationship myself (but thankfully made it out alive) I felt ever word of this story and my heart goes out to Hannah and her whole family.
It happens more than you know and we almost always feel mad and like it’s not really what’s happening, but it is and it’s so dangerous and real. 💔
19 years ago i got belted black and blue, he got 6 weeks in Silverwater. His mother was high profile Legal Aid. He got 6 months rehab with William Booth then moved to Miracle Haven. Came back and did it all over to me again. He has moved on new family etc. Im left with the nightmares, depression
It makes you feel so robbed doesn't it ? So unjust. ❤
@@Melfukoffstill shattered 19 years later
@@lindamac2 it's so sad . I never understand how they can always seem to move on so easily & forget the damage they have caused or why they have another opportunity to be blessed with another. Makes me mad . But don't worry he will have to face his maker at death then he will be reminded. No one escapes death. Did he ever ask for forgiveness from you?
@@Melfukoff he move on quickly
@@Melfukoff i remember court black and blue and he pleaded not guilty
Your daughter & grandkids would be extremely proud of you both. ❤
Hannah looked so much like her mother almost identical. What a beautiful healthy relationship tgey must have role modeled to their children such a shame she got preyed upon by that monster
The strengh these lovely people have & generosity too share this with us all 🙏🙏✌✌
You could see in videos how rough he was with the kids. Awful man.
May Hannah & her babies be at peace 🌹🧸🧸🧸
there are certain events in life that you can remember exactly where you were when you heard the news..
john lennon
the space shuttle
princess diana
and
hannah clarke and her beautiful children.
as a local of brisbane.
the morning news report came in on triple m.
tears aplenty..
absolutely horrified
everyone.!
rocks us to our core,
to this very day.!
🥺🕯🕯🕯🕯🥺
#neverforgetournames
#truthseekersunite
#why
#justice
#zerotolerance
#hannahslaw
✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
This particular case I remember discussing with the DHHS workers when I was helping with the care of my nephew as my MIL was encouraged by others that the intervtion orders on my BIL should be dropped I've never cried so hard in my life when the DHHS workers said the courts over rule us so I suggest as you are saying and the court rules otherwise he can have access to the child and other family I cannot stop him.
It's so hard to keep pushing to protect people you love when other family members don't see it and the court rules otherwise. I'll never let this case of Hannah leave my soul because the system literally said they cannot stop it.
I'm glad that we are talking about domestic violence more. We all know someone who has or is going through it. I think we should say something and help that person. This is what helped me change my life. For the better. The buck stops with me.
We should all be talking about domestic violence because 6 men everyday are taking their lives because of it.
That's the worst 😢
Revenge.When women leave men think about payback.A very dangerous time
Generalising when it comes to DV is one of the problems surrounding the issue. Choose your words more wisely.
I would LOVE to interview the parents of MONSTERS like this evil pos! This absolutely heartbreaking 💔
I remember this case happened i.saw it on the news it made sick to my stomach and how he could do this to his family
Sue and lloyd clarke are the bravest people i have seen
They seem.lovely people i cannot imagine what they going through
Brilliant humans.
Am 77 and lived with domestic violence all my life so it's been going on forever. Just have to really get to know someone before moving in or committing to them
Horrific crime ..never forget ...god bless the family ❤❤❤
May hannah and her kids rest in peace
Gary, I strongly suggest you do a lot of research about the different type of narcissists. Bright empaths are moths to a flame for these types of people and they stay for many reasons.
I believe this murderer was a Covert narcissist. Very insecure but display cockiness . You'll see how personalities like his go WAY beyond lack of emotional intelligence. Hannah was a trophy. The mindbending coersive abuse with insults and gaslighting behind doors, rattles and wears down secure strong women (and men) quite badly. Text book narcissist. There's a list of behaviours and it is eerie. These are the things women should be aware of. It hit me like a brick when I read them and recognised all of them.
I grew up in domestic violence, ispent my adult life working training and helping women and kids in dv I don't think it's getting worse it's always been bad it's just that we have social media everything is public I can tell you women have been killed or nearly beaten to death kids so traumatised they can't function I promise you it has always been bad
This really scares me off romantic relationships. What is the point of going into one of they just want to control and manipulate you?
You never get over it, but you gotta move through it.
Any one that would burn anyone let alone 4 people he professed to love, to death is not worth the oxygen they breath. I couldn't believe this when I heard it. Then watched it on the news. So very sorry for the parents. It would hard to want to live after that......
I visited the park Hannah's place last year
How impressive
I remember this horrific killing, my heart hurt. RIP Hannah, Aaliyah, Laianah & Trey.
Narcissists eyes turn black when they are in an active evil state
My ex wife’s eyes turned black when I finally walked out
Amen about using kids as a bargaining chip. I can't stand women like that. Women who punish the fathers by keeping their children from them. That's punishing your children too. Hannah was clearly an amazing woman and I definitely think it speaks volumes that she encouraged her children's relationships with their father. It's too bad he was a psychotic POS that didn't appreciate her.
Very, very, very fine line.
I always sent my child with my heart in my throat and I had my reasons for that.
I spoke with the domestic violence liason officer at my local police station about my concerns and why they existed.
She said they could not pursue the other parent based on what I had presented because at that stage there was "no evidence of intent."
However by the time there is evidence of intent, someone is usually seriously harmed. Or dead.
In this case, 4 people. Dead.
Not every mother who witholds her child/ren is an alienating parent.
Sometimes it's literally a matter of life and death. And she knows it.
So far, we have been lucky (touch wood) and I don't worry as much as I used to when my boy sees his Dad, which is very rare, because now he is older and more physically able to defend himself if he ever had to.
I also stay very grey rock within co-parenting because if our child ever was hurt, the intent would absolutely be to punish me and take away the person I love the most.
Not every situation like this 👆 has a peaceful ending.
It's a roll of the dice and as Hannah's father states it depends on the mood of the disordered person and that can be very different day to day.
I'm so sorry Hannah's and the childrens story didn't turn out better.
All the warning signs were there and this is why coersive control laws are so very important.
It's heartbreakingly difficult to get this right and absolutely tragic when it goes wrong.
Beautiful souls, gone too soon. I see you Hannah and I understand. 🕊🕊🕊🕊
@@thegoddesswithin8859mothers abuse their children everyday and no one does anything about it! Do is not gender biased and the police need to learn how it all works much deeper.
My ex treated my.parents the same way
Where are his parents in all of this?
But, were does it all start? How did this guy become this person? What happened as a child?
I remember having a dream about Hannah once after her death she was looking out in surfers paradise
Malignant narcissist. Counselling would not have worked