Fighting Coercive Control - Small steps for Hannah - Hannah Clarke, Sue and Lloyd Clarke | I Catch Killers All that Sue and Lloyd Clarke have of their daughter Hannah Clarke are her footprints. Those prints inspired Small Steps For Hannah - a foundation working to stop the cycle of domestic violence. Sue and Lloyd join Gary Jubelin to discuss red flags, coercive control and what is being done to put an end to it. If you or someone you know needs support, call 1800 737 732 or visit 1800respect.org.au or www.smallsteps4hannah.com.au. ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin True Crime Australia Listen on Apple Podcasts ► Connect With True Crime Australia Online: bit.ly/46xCXDb ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ► Subscribe To Our True Crime Australia RUclips Channel: bit.ly/3iU23Fm ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ► Follow Us on Facebook: facebook.com/TrueCrimeAustralia ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00 - Introduction - Sue and Lloyd Clarke 02:06 - Moments after Hannah Clarke's death 12:23 - Remembering Hannah Clarke 13:29 - What is coercive control? 20:13 - Education is crucial with coercive control 33:55 - Calling out bad behaviour 36:24 - Life after losing their daughter Hannah #truecrime #truecrimeaustralia #crime #crimestory #crimejunkie
Thank you for sharing and showing the world this evil is everywhere and then you see God’s good grace shine through the darkness. I am a new supporter. Much respect for your work keep it up 👍
Hey Gary, your podcasts are fantastic-putting it out there about killers, somestic violence, coercive control and stalkers etc. Lloyd and Sue are amazing, after what they've been through, shining a light on coercive control and domestic violence.
What a great podcast and what amazing people the Clarkes are having to relive their family’s heartache over and over so they can save other women and young children. Well done Gary and Mr & Mrs Clarke.👏👏👏👏
Problem is that someone can still get a DVO on someone without any charges. I have one currently on me because I wouldn’t let someone come to my home because they were still in contact with my ex.(recommended by Police) Magistrate ignored my testimony my evidence including breaches, then cancelled my DVO on him and granted his? I wish I was joking but I literally have it on paper in the transcript, it blows my mind. Thanks to Hannah’s Parents for bringing light to it but sadly this is going to take a very very long time before the justice system actually acts on it. Justice System already doesn’t even follow laws or rules that are already in place. 😢
Thank you for the podcast with these two beautiful parents. My heart ❤️ goes out to them. They are doing amazing things in honour of their daughter and grandchildren. Sending them love.
I think of Hannah & her children often. I’m from New Zealand and my heart broke when it was reported. I really wish this never happened to your family 💛🩷🩷💙
Thank you so much for doing this podcast. I remember when the story broke out on social media. I was shocked to see what happen to Hannah and the kids. It was very upsetting to see. Especially to the children it's hard to comprehend - WHY the children they didn't deserve to die. Hannah didn't deserve any of this. I can only imagine what else went on behind close doors that no one knows but Hannah. It is good to see a positive happening to help move forward. There are so many men & women who are stuck in a relationship fearful to get out. And the you have people who are unsure what signs to look out for that is a Red Flag. All of this needs to be educated. This would save a LOT of lives. Thank you Sue & Lloyd for being brave to share what happen and leading up to the terrible day. It is good to keep doing something positive no matter how hard it is. There will always be tears...
Thank you for this wonderful podcast with Hannah Clarkes parents. I agree with the ankle brackets for perbertrators of violence on women. Loving thoughts for these wonderful people.💜💜
This was so powerful, Informative and inspiring. The ankle bracelet idea is a no brainer we must somehow bring this into effect. Education , As parents we must have these conversations with our boys . Truly thank you for doing this podcast . Sue & Loyd thank you for all that you’ve done, all that you continue to do .
I just want to express my thanks for the funding put thru to Centre for Women & Co here in Redland Bay, the changes they are helping to make in people's lives are massive.
I really love the idea of the ankle bracelet! I’d even volunteer to wear one too, so that my location can give relevance to the person I’m afraid of coming close to me and monitoring me. It would also end the counter claim that women often lie about being threatened.
Thankyou for explaining this, Ive been through something similar with my first husband back in 2009. its terrifying.. Thankfully my children and I escaped. my heart and prayers are with Hannahs family. stay safe and if you see the warning signs please protect your loved ones
My heart goes out to you and your family, this effects way to many people, when you get into a relationship you are not owned, never get into one if you are looking for that other person to make you happy or what they can do for you. Happiness comes from with in and a good relationship is when you both want to do the best for each other with no expectation
They need psychological intervention, debrief of their trauma and causative issues, and to be given skills to navigate their ptsd, bpd, trauma, history of abuse (upon themselves and others) etc. It doesn't fix itself. And women and other "weaker" men have been their punching bags for too long. The issue is generations deep and cultural as well as individual. IN the case of this guy and Daniel Billing, both had left previous relationships with a child and that is a deep grief and trauma, that needs to be addressed and that probably fuelled his narcissism and need to have the relationship appear as flawless and happy. The guy clearly wasn't coping, with the idea of loss or abandonment, etc. Also those children were put in harms way by staying in the relationship. that needs to be recognised. it's not just about the mother. Kids absorb, learn , take on, react to and repeat what they are exposed to. So staying can be as an act of abuse. How you deal with contact with someone with a 'criminal mind' is different to someone who is going through trauma and grief. It needs to be nuanced and assisted. They aren't going to seek help and often the help falls short / is second rate (there needs to be a review of the psychotherapeutic services). Definitely a holding cell / help centre specifically treating people with this issue is needed.
Great idea re the ankle bracelet but they don't have the resources. Plus DV and coercive control is such a massive issue out there, prob the government wouldn't want to be liable. Too big of a problem Incredible people. What amazing people. The trauma they go through is unimaginable. Big hugs to them
l watched Part 1 last night and l have been following Hanah's story. So awful 💔😭 As a survivor of DV l understand the nightmare of being under 'Coercive control'
stoicism personified.! the state the nation needs to step up and address this pronto.! it’s imperative.! ☺️😊 🥺🕯🕯🕯🕯🥺 #neverforgetournames #truthseekersunite #answerstoquestions #why #justice #zerotolerancetobullies #HALTlaw ✌🏻🌏🇦🇺🤘🏻
Gary u said in your other video that u were kicked out of the home u were living in with your detective longtime partner. Cut through the BS here, your bad behaviour that u confessed to must of been very bad to be forced out. Maybe it was bad behaviour over a long period of time & she had had enough. If the details had been reported to Police a DV/AVO order would no doubt have been issued with u as the perpetrator. Are u going to put your offending behaviour details under your name in the national DV register your so keen on? Do u think u should wear an ankle tracker because of your DV incident that night? I'm not writing this to have a go at u. I think your a good guy. I wish we all could discuss DV as its one of the most important issues in our society.
Its anti-men & in fact a great injustice to make laws criminalizing 10x thousands of aussies for making funny jokes about their wives & having couple arguments. Its so so far off the mark to protecting women from being murdered.
If my stalker abuser had the ankle bracelet. He would have been put in jail. I could live knowing that l am actually being protected and my abuser would be aware too.
Fighting Coercive Control - Small steps for Hannah - Hannah Clarke, Sue and Lloyd Clarke | I Catch Killers
All that Sue and Lloyd Clarke have of their daughter Hannah Clarke are her footprints. Those prints inspired Small Steps For Hannah - a foundation working to stop the cycle of domestic violence. Sue and Lloyd join Gary Jubelin to discuss red flags, coercive control and what is being done to put an end to it.
If you or someone you know needs support, call 1800 737 732 or visit 1800respect.org.au or www.smallsteps4hannah.com.au.
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00:00 - Introduction - Sue and Lloyd Clarke
02:06 - Moments after Hannah Clarke's death
12:23 - Remembering Hannah Clarke
13:29 - What is coercive control?
20:13 - Education is crucial with coercive control
33:55 - Calling out bad behaviour
36:24 - Life after losing their daughter Hannah
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Thank you for sharing and showing the world this evil is everywhere and then you see God’s good grace shine through the darkness. I am a new supporter. Much respect for your work keep it up 👍
Hey Gary, your podcasts are fantastic-putting it out there about killers, somestic violence, coercive control and stalkers etc.
Lloyd and Sue are amazing, after what they've been through, shining a light on coercive control and domestic violence.
Hannah’s parents sound like such beautiful People, my sympathy goes out for them and what they had to go through. 😢
What a great podcast and what amazing people the Clarkes are having to relive their family’s heartache over and over so they can save other women and young children. Well done Gary and Mr & Mrs Clarke.👏👏👏👏
Problem is that someone can still get a DVO on someone without any charges. I have one currently on me because I wouldn’t let someone come to my home because they were still in contact with my ex.(recommended by Police) Magistrate ignored my testimony my evidence including breaches, then cancelled my DVO on him and granted his? I wish I was joking but I literally have it on paper in the transcript, it blows my mind.
Thanks to Hannah’s Parents for bringing light to it but sadly this is going to take a very very long time before the justice system actually acts on it. Justice System already doesn’t even follow laws or rules that are already in place. 😢
Thank you for the podcast with these two beautiful parents. My heart ❤️ goes out to them. They are doing amazing things in honour of their daughter and grandchildren. Sending them love.
I think of Hannah & her children often. I’m from New Zealand and my heart broke when it was reported. I really wish this never happened to your family 💛🩷🩷💙
Thank you so much for doing this podcast. I remember when the story broke out on social media. I was shocked to see what happen to Hannah and the kids. It was very upsetting to see. Especially to the children it's hard to comprehend - WHY the children they didn't deserve to die. Hannah didn't deserve any of this. I can only imagine what else went on behind close doors that no one knows but Hannah.
It is good to see a positive happening to help move forward. There are so many men & women who are stuck in a relationship fearful to get out. And the you have people who are unsure what signs to look out for that is a Red Flag. All of this needs to be educated. This would save a LOT of lives. Thank you Sue & Lloyd for being brave to share what happen and leading up to the terrible day. It is good to keep doing something positive no matter how hard it is. There will always be tears...
🇺🇸USA here and 2:02 just learning of Hannah’s story. Wow @true crime Australia thanks for sharing
Thank you for this wonderful podcast with Hannah Clarkes parents. I agree with the ankle brackets for perbertrators of violence on women. Loving thoughts for these wonderful people.💜💜
This was so powerful, Informative and inspiring. The ankle bracelet idea is a no brainer we must somehow bring this into effect. Education , As parents we must have these conversations with our boys . Truly thank you for doing this podcast . Sue & Loyd thank you for all that you’ve done, all that you continue to do .
Beautiful humans I wish u all the best in life ❤
Thank you for these interviews, Gary. Thank you, Lloyd and Sue. My heart goes out to you.
I just want to express my thanks for the funding put thru to Centre for Women & Co here in Redland Bay, the changes they are helping to make in people's lives are massive.
I really love the idea of the ankle bracelet! I’d even volunteer to wear one too, so that my location can give relevance to the person I’m afraid of coming close to me and monitoring me. It would also end the counter claim that women often lie about being threatened.
Do you know someone in this kind of relationship? Talk to her, let her know you are there for whatever she might need to get out.
Thankyou for explaining this, Ive been through something similar with my first husband back in 2009. its terrifying.. Thankfully my children and I escaped. my heart and prayers are with Hannahs family. stay safe and if you see the warning signs please protect your loved ones
My heart goes out to you and your family, this effects way to many people, when you get into a relationship you are not owned, never get into one if you are looking for that other person to make you happy or what they can do for you. Happiness comes from with in and a good relationship is when you both want to do the best for each other with no expectation
They need psychological intervention, debrief of their trauma and causative issues, and to be given skills to navigate their ptsd, bpd, trauma, history of abuse (upon themselves and others) etc. It doesn't fix itself. And women and other "weaker" men have been their punching bags for too long. The issue is generations deep and cultural as well as individual. IN the case of this guy and Daniel Billing, both had left previous relationships with a child and that is a deep grief and trauma, that needs to be addressed and that probably fuelled his narcissism and need to have the relationship appear as flawless and happy. The guy clearly wasn't coping, with the idea of loss or abandonment, etc. Also those children were put in harms way by staying in the relationship. that needs to be recognised. it's not just about the mother. Kids absorb, learn , take on, react to and repeat what they are exposed to. So staying can be as an act of abuse. How you deal with contact with someone with a 'criminal mind' is different to someone who is going through trauma and grief. It needs to be nuanced and assisted. They aren't going to seek help and often the help falls short / is second rate (there needs to be a review of the psychotherapeutic services). Definitely a holding cell / help centre specifically treating people with this issue is needed.
Great idea re the ankle bracelet but they don't have the resources. Plus DV and coercive control is such a massive issue out there, prob the government wouldn't want to be liable. Too big of a problem
Incredible people. What amazing people. The trauma they go through is unimaginable. Big hugs to them
l watched Part 1 last night and l have been following Hanah's story. So awful 💔😭 As a survivor of DV l understand the nightmare of being under 'Coercive control'
stoicism personified.!
the state
the nation
needs to step up and address this pronto.!
it’s imperative.!
☺️😊
🥺🕯🕯🕯🕯🥺
#neverforgetournames
#truthseekersunite
#answerstoquestions
#why
#justice
#zerotolerancetobullies
#HALTlaw
✌🏻🌏🇦🇺🤘🏻
Gary u said in your other video that u were kicked out of the home u were living in with your detective longtime partner. Cut through the BS here, your bad behaviour that u confessed to must of been very bad to be forced out. Maybe it was bad behaviour over a long period of time & she had had enough.
If the details had been reported to Police a DV/AVO order would no doubt have been issued with u as the perpetrator.
Are u going to put your offending behaviour details under your name in the national DV register your so keen on? Do u think u should wear an ankle tracker because of your DV incident that night?
I'm not writing this to have a go at u. I think your a good guy. I wish we all could discuss DV as its one of the most important issues in our society.
Should add a prior offenses category to dating apps.
Its anti-men & in fact a great injustice to make laws criminalizing 10x thousands of aussies for making funny jokes about their wives & having couple arguments.
Its so so far off the mark to protecting women from being murdered.
What can we do to prevent this?
With any new legislation, I worry about how it can be abused. Good intentions can lead to bad outcomes.
If my stalker abuser had the ankle bracelet. He would have been put in jail. I could live knowing that l am actually being protected and my abuser would be aware too.
The kids didnt have a chance