Scott Johnson & The End Of A Career - Pamela Young | I Catch Killers Retired Detective Chief Inspector Pamela Young was a high-flying homicide detective, working cold cases and catching killers. One case brought her career to a sudden stop - death of a young man called Scott Johnson in 1988. In the final part of this four-part special interview Pamela talks Gary Jubelin through the case and how it led to her undoing. ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin True Crime Australia Listen on Apple Podcasts ► Connect With True Crime Australia Online: bit.ly/46xCXDb ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ► Subscribe To Our True Crime Australia RUclips Channel: bit.ly/3iU23Fm ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ► Follow Us on Facebook: facebook.com/TrueCrimeAustralia ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ 00:00 - Introduction - Pamela Young 02:12 - Pam Young's work ethic 05:55 - Scott Johnson: 1988 17:34 - Pamela Young speaks about the Lateline interview 28:50 - Losing love 33:44 - Who Pamela Young would want on her case 46:58 - Life after the cops 56:08 - Respect and love #truecrime #truecrimeaustralia #crime #crimestory #crimejunkie
This was a great podcast from you both. When you say why aren’t people joining the police force well what happened to both of you from internally and the hierarchy no support there’s your answer. I didn’t know of Pamela before this but as a woman I’m very proud of her. I knew of you Gary from many cases you were involved in and the NSW Police are fools and have let go dedicated and passionate police detectives. Shame on them. 😡
I really enjoyed these 4 episodes. Thank you Gary and Pamela for your dedicated service. It's really disappointing that the police hierarchy threw all the good cops under a bus to protect their golden jewel. I'm glad you and Pamela remain good friends and can share fond memories in the cops, both personal and professional. I'm glad you both found solace in your afterlife. Really enjoy your podcasts.
Best podcast that I’ve enjoyed! So informative and incredibly inspiring 4 part series. It’s amazing how much the police and media can distort the truth and I’m so proud that both of you have shared your experiences and used your voice so the public can better understand and view the narratives to which have been presented, through a much clearer and a more accurate lens. Pam is such a strong and inspiring woman and Gary is a stand up man, both have attributed to so serving so much for our communities. Thank you
Thank you for this one Gary. It was open and honest, informative and entertaining and I enjoyed watching it immensely. Pamela is an amazing woman with such a great story to tell and I hope that she gets to tell us much more in time
Hi Gary and Pamela, I think is absolutely disgusting the way the police force throw you both to the wolves no wonder we don’t have wonderful police officers like yourselves, working hard to achieve what you have done. My heart goes out to you both, unfortunately the big poppy syndrome is still a right and well in Australia. I want to say thank you for your service and to all of the good cops out there.
Oh yes Pam & Gary corporate treachery is very much alive and well and skilfully executed by those who typically lack and sense of sense of self or the ability to self reflect or accept any form of criticism without feeling attacked. You’ve both contributed so much of your lives that it was quite difficult to listen to your own personal experiences leading to your retirements. Just want to say thank you both.
The reason why that man, (who by the way did not come from a privileged background and had accrued his “wealth” by dint of sheer hard work and through his own intelligence) was forced to create this media pressure to find justice for his brother was because all victims were NOT in fact treated as “equal”. Gay men were not treated as equal, which is why this family were left in agony for over TWENTY YEARS. Yes, he used the resources available to him to find justice for his brother- but why should he have had to forge those connections, why should he have to have spent one cent of his own money on doing the work that Australian police should have done in the first place? I don’t think that this woman is necessary homophobic, but she does come across as crashingly insensitive, considering the treatment that Scott Johnson’s family had already had to endure for decades from the institution that she worked for.
The more i watch/ listen to Pam the more proud of am of females in our Police force! Ehat an amzing role model to female that come after her ! Amazing pod from you both 👏
What a fantastic, informative story of Pamela young. To also have such a mutual respect and dare I say love for each other was so amazing. Loved the story about Paris😂🌹
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this podcast. I think its such a shame that both of you aren't still in the police force. Very interesting podcast. Thankyou both.
What a fantastic, informative story of Pamela young. To also have such a mutual respect and dare I say love for each other was so amazing. Loved the story about Paris😂🌹also.
Both excellent Police Officers, thank you for all you have done! The top deck of Senior Police clearly had their own agendas, utterly despicable! Not impressed with Police Minister either.
Good clip guys . Tough gig with internal politics . My old man was a moderately senior NSW under Norm Allen (then Commissioner) it fecked his head and that of his family too .. not an easy job , I take my hat off .. 67yo male ex Sydney youth .
Wonderful to witness how you have both sustained high integrity and transparency and honesty after being abused and targeted by the fools who have none of your qualities . I didn’t know much about Gary but the glimpses I saw before the betrayal by all your ultra cowardly superiors ( so - called ). .. was glaringly obvious to me. I didn’t know anything if Pamela til these podcasts and. … ditto. . I give thanks to god that people like you both are still breathing and working for the highest good of us all in this god forsaken cesspool of corruption that has swamped our Australian and global power structures . I’ve watched it happen over 70 years. , and bless every single person who stays real and cares . Bless you both . An Aussie gran .
Sorry Gary but i would be more intimidated if i was to be interviewed by Pam lol An intelligent and an eloquent smiling assassin of the interview room.
I’m absolutely disgusted by the way you laughed about not believing in ptsd..both my husband and I have ptsd as a result of being police officers, my husband 34 years myself nearly 20..it was this attitude by management that caused both of us to nearly lose our lives..we are the lucky ones because we have fantastic support, sadly not from the organisation we proudly served, but family friends and professionals..with attitudes that ptsd doesn’t exist we will continue to lose members to the job and sadly, worse, members will lose their lives..I for one am very proud that I had the strength to put up my hand to admit I have ptsd..even prouder of my husband
People can laugh at whatever they like. Your offence to that is your problem. Your beliefs around ptsd are yours and nobody can take that away from you. We all have different perspectives for which we are allowed to have.
Sorry (but not sorry) you are seriously kidding yourselves if you think people are going to disregard all your comments about how badly you were both shafted, to then get excited and be attracted to the job. It just seems like for whatever reasons you are in some ways trying to promote a job in an organisation that has good form (obviously) for shafting it's staff and dishes out appauling treatment (that you describe) that is engrained in the fabric of this organisation. It would take decades to stamp out the toxic behaviour that you are describing, and it's highly unlikely that will be on the cards any time soon. Why you would happily encourage young people ( or anyone for that matter) to join such a toxic broken culture (that does not reward hard work, and then is keen for shafting it's best performers whenever/wherever) is totally beyond me.
I have friends who have left the police force because of the high stress levels dealing with the levels of violence and abuse by the public , which in recent times seems to have escalated intensely , particularly in drug or domestic conflicts . I think the police culture has actually changed negatively , and so has the Australian culture . Sadly . I pray it all improves soon .
keep pam around she can muzzel you and thats no small task you would make great partners on these podcasts but would you be big enough to share gary ? it would boost your allready great podcasts
Pamela the misogyny comes from highly emasculated males. While the Albanese government is in play there will be misogyny and misandry! This comes down to personalities of which I’m sure you’re aware of. These same narcissistic people are the ones that could not handle the truths that you said in your Lateline interview. These people are not able to grow up. I am proud of you Pamela and you Gary for the people that you are and the integrity and values system that you both stand by.
@@sharonrose3871She has a very unfortunate manner. I wonder how much sympathy and empathy she (or her colleagues) expressed to the grieving family of a man who had been unlawfully killed and whose case they dismissed for decades.
Regarding recruitment for police, the treatment of peaceful protesters by the police and other covid related issues, depleted the little respect that was left for the police in this nation since the change of policing began from the late eighties to early nineties from a constabulary to a "force" imo.
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Scott Johnson & The End Of A Career - Pamela Young | I Catch Killers
Retired Detective Chief Inspector Pamela Young was a high-flying homicide detective, working cold cases and catching killers. One case brought her career to a sudden stop - death of a young man called Scott Johnson in 1988. In the final part of this four-part special interview Pamela talks Gary Jubelin through the case and how it led to her undoing.
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00:00 - Introduction - Pamela Young
02:12 - Pam Young's work ethic
05:55 - Scott Johnson: 1988
17:34 - Pamela Young speaks about the Lateline interview
28:50 - Losing love
33:44 - Who Pamela Young would want on her case
46:58 - Life after the cops
56:08 - Respect and love
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Gary thank you for all your hard work. Pamela you're an excellent guest.
This was a great podcast from you both. When you say why aren’t people joining the police force well what happened to both of you from internally and the hierarchy no support there’s your answer. I didn’t know of Pamela before this but as a woman I’m very proud of her. I knew of you Gary from many cases you were involved in and the NSW Police are fools and have let go dedicated and passionate police detectives. Shame on them. 😡
Thanks so much for sharing this amazing, inspiring woman with us! Enjoyed your humour, intensity and friendship…. Great story Jubelin!
I really enjoyed these 4 episodes. Thank you Gary and Pamela for your dedicated service. It's really disappointing that the police hierarchy threw all the good cops under a bus to protect their golden jewel. I'm glad you and Pamela remain good friends and can share fond memories in the cops, both personal and professional. I'm glad you both found solace in your afterlife. Really enjoy your podcasts.
Best podcast that I’ve enjoyed! So informative and incredibly inspiring 4 part series. It’s amazing how much the police and media can distort the truth and I’m so proud that both of you have shared your experiences and used your voice so the public can better understand and view the narratives to which have been presented, through a much clearer and a more accurate lens. Pam is such a strong and inspiring woman and Gary is a stand up man, both have attributed to so serving so much for our communities. Thank you
Thank you for this one Gary. It was open and honest, informative and entertaining and I enjoyed watching it immensely. Pamela is an amazing woman with such a great story to tell and I hope that she gets to tell us much more in time
Hi Gary and Pamela, I think is absolutely disgusting the way the police force throw you both to the wolves no wonder we don’t have wonderful police officers like yourselves, working hard to achieve what you have done. My heart goes out to you both, unfortunately the big poppy syndrome is still a right and well in Australia. I want to say thank you for your service and to all of the good cops out there.
Well said 👏
Well said 👏
❤Lots of Love to u Pam,I thoroughly enjoyed listening to how wonderful u speak all the best with life take care ❤
Oh yes Pam & Gary corporate treachery is very much alive and well and skilfully executed by those who typically lack and sense of sense of self or the ability to self reflect or accept any form of criticism without feeling attacked. You’ve both contributed so much of your lives that it was quite difficult to listen to your own personal experiences leading to your retirements. Just want to say thank you both.
phenomenal four episodes.
throughly enjoyed.!
thank you both.
much respect.!
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✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
The reason why that man, (who by the way did not come from a privileged background and had accrued his “wealth” by dint of sheer hard work and through his own intelligence) was forced to create this media pressure to find justice for his brother was because all victims were NOT in fact treated as “equal”. Gay men were not treated as equal, which is why this family were left in agony for over TWENTY YEARS. Yes, he used the resources available to him to find justice for his brother- but why should he have had to forge those connections, why should he have to have spent one cent of his own money on doing the work that Australian police should have done in the first place? I don’t think that this woman is necessary homophobic, but she does come across as crashingly insensitive, considering the treatment that Scott Johnson’s family had already had to endure for decades from the institution that she worked for.
The more i watch/ listen to Pam the more proud of am of females in our Police force! Ehat an amzing role model to female that come after her ! Amazing pod from you both 👏
I really enjoyed this interview. Great job!
Really enjoyed these episodes and your chemistry with one another. You’re an incredible woman Pam! 👏🏽🙌🏽
What a fantastic, informative story of Pamela young. To also have such a mutual respect and dare I say love for each other was so amazing. Loved the story about Paris😂🌹
The never ending love of his brother bought this criminal to justice , the story is very sad and tragic.
Morning world 🙏😎✌🇬🇧 enjoyed these 4 podcast. 👊✌🇬🇧
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this podcast. I think its such a shame that both of you aren't still in the police force. Very interesting podcast. Thankyou both.
Agree... But im sure they will continue to mentor others if they reach out ! Let's hope anyway !
What a fantastic, informative story of Pamela young. To also have such a mutual respect and dare I say love for each other was so amazing. Loved the story about Paris😂🌹also.
Wow she is an awesome role model…. Thank you for this podcast Gary… absolutely enjoyed it.
Love watching you two👍
Both excellent Police Officers, thank you for all you have done!
The top deck of Senior Police clearly had their own agendas, utterly despicable! Not impressed with Police Minister either.
I like how they are so keen to talk at once But Pam puts him in his place. Just let me finish. Let me finish.🤣
Pam, I'm impressed
Read the book, "1000 miles from Care." Great read. His brother should have been a detective.
Good clip guys . Tough gig with internal politics . My old man was a moderately senior NSW under Norm Allen (then Commissioner) it fecked his head and that of his family too .. not an easy job , I take my hat off .. 67yo male ex Sydney youth .
Wonderful to witness how you have both sustained high integrity and transparency and honesty after being abused and targeted by the fools who have none of your qualities .
I didn’t know much about Gary but the glimpses I saw before the betrayal by all your ultra cowardly superiors ( so - called ). .. was glaringly obvious to me. I didn’t know anything if Pamela til these podcasts and. … ditto. . I give thanks to god that people like you both are still breathing and working for the highest good of us all in this god forsaken cesspool of corruption that has swamped our Australian and global power structures . I’ve watched it happen over 70 years. , and bless every single person who stays real and cares . Bless you both . An Aussie gran .
What a loss to the general public.
Two wonderful police persons who gave theor all.
Great respect and admiration of you both.❤❤
Could you talk about the wakehurst parkway homicide 1994 ithanks
Is it wrong, that when Pam said 3 times, let me finish, I heard Gary’s phone ring on the bedside table?
Sorry Gary but i would be more intimidated if i was to be interviewed by Pam lol An intelligent and an eloquent smiling assassin of the interview room.
I’m absolutely disgusted by the way you laughed about not believing in ptsd..both my husband and I have ptsd as a result of being police officers, my husband 34 years myself nearly 20..it was this attitude by management that caused both of us to nearly lose our lives..we are the lucky ones because we have fantastic support, sadly not from the organisation we proudly served, but family friends and professionals..with attitudes that ptsd doesn’t exist we will continue to lose members to the job and sadly, worse, members will lose their lives..I for one am very proud that I had the strength to put up my hand to admit I have ptsd..even prouder of my husband
People can laugh at whatever they like. Your offence to that is your problem. Your beliefs around ptsd are yours and nobody can take that away from you. We all have different perspectives for which we are allowed to have.
'let me finish '
I loved that.... she will never be unheard ! 😅
There is no loyalty in any section of the public service, local state or federal.
Sorry (but not sorry) you are seriously kidding yourselves if you think people are going to disregard all your comments about how badly you were both shafted, to then get excited and be attracted to the job. It just seems like for whatever reasons you are in some ways trying to promote a job in an organisation that has good form (obviously) for shafting it's staff and dishes out appauling treatment (that you describe) that is engrained in the fabric of this organisation. It would take decades to stamp out the toxic behaviour that you are describing, and it's highly unlikely that will be on the cards any time soon.
Why you would happily encourage young people ( or anyone for that matter) to join such a toxic broken culture (that does not reward hard work, and then is keen for shafting it's best performers whenever/wherever) is totally beyond me.
great
With great power comes great responsibility, 48 hrs no sleep !
I have friends who have left the police force because of the high stress levels dealing with the levels of violence and abuse by the public , which in recent times seems to have escalated intensely , particularly in drug or domestic conflicts . I think the police culture has actually changed negatively , and so has the Australian culture . Sadly . I pray it all improves soon .
Who was the Police Minister at the time that gave Pam a 'bake'?
keep pam around she can muzzel you and thats no small task you would make great partners on these podcasts but would you be big enough to share gary ? it would boost your allready great podcasts
Pamela the misogyny comes from highly emasculated males. While the Albanese government is in play there will be misogyny and misandry! This comes down to personalities of which I’m sure you’re aware of. These same narcissistic people are the ones that could not handle the truths that you said in your Lateline interview. These people are not able to grow up. I am proud of you Pamela and you Gary for the people that you are and the integrity and values system that you both stand by.
Gary...Let her finish...lol
she's a hard case with all her ummm's, I find it interesting that she self corrects what she is saying. I also find her quite rude.
@@sharonrose3871She has a very unfortunate manner. I wonder how much sympathy and empathy she (or her colleagues) expressed to the grieving family of a man who had been unlawfully killed and whose case they dismissed for decades.
Regarding recruitment for police, the treatment of peaceful protesters by the police and other covid related issues, depleted the little respect that was left for the police in this nation since the change of policing began from the late eighties to early nineties from a constabulary to a "force" imo.
As you can see I have let it go 😂😂. ( whilst defending a truly victimless crime ) . The way you were treated is un Australian
A dingo got my baby
When are you getting Ron idllles or doesn’t he want a bar of ya
Cant edit sorry,bc comments wont be accepted, sure see spell errors but cant correct.
To answer your question about why they can't get police... not enough money , this day n age... pay more they will come
Footnote: pls excuse my grammatical errror
When the two of you were together, you must have had some great blue's. Excuse the pun.
She’s a rude old thing 😂😂😂
William is somewhere in casino Gary... You must find him or it will haunt you forever...
I call all homosexual men Cliff... Its my way of getting things off my chest...
Cliffs are great for teaching people how to fly....
lolol