Piers Morgan ARGUES why Portugal's Cristiano Ronaldo is GREATER than Argentina's Lionel Messi 😠🔥
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024
- Who is THE GOAT? Portugal's Cristiano Ronaldo or Argentina's Lionel Messi? TalkTV's Piers Morgan has his say!
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This whole argument of doing it in multiple leagues thing is ridiculous. Am I supposed to believe Paolo Maldini isn't the GOAT of defenders because they played in 1 team for their entire career?
Yes
Many of my dad's generation say George best was the best ever. He never even played in a world cup and tbh I shouldn't matter.
@@GIBBO4182 For you, yes...Your opinion...In the end, all this discussion is individual opinion...
He didnt even win the league in Portugal. Piers has no clue.
Piers claims Ronaldo better goalscorer.. Messi has better career goals record, has more scoring titles in Spain when both there and more European Golden Boots.
Guy is clueless.
@@dirtygunslinger9835 my friend Jimbo says im the best ever.
'Ronaldo is greater than Messi because Ronaldo gives me the time of day and Messi doesn't even know who I am.' - Piers Morgan if he was being honest and not a petty contrarian for a change.
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So disappointed in TALKSPORT, giving that Shyster,Piers Morgan a platform.He has an opinion,like everyone else,BUT he isn’t a football expert? A few years back he was calling Messi the best ever,and calling Ronaldo a child in one of the newspapers.ALL OF A SUDDEN, Ronaldo’s his best mate! Why didn’t Ronaldo’s advisers tell him what sort of journalist he was going to give interviews to.Morgan specialises in sensationalism.He used to slag off Gazza regularly and several Arsenal players have had a go at him.He’s not even popular with supporters of the club he supports,Arsenal, especially after the way he slaughtered Mikel Arteta last season,calling for him to be sacked.A scumbag journalist.
You can't trust his opinion , he's a man of a thousand faces , he will have i was a pillock to thousands on his headstone.
What Ronaldo does, does it better than anyone else
What Messi does, no one else can do.
Apt
Maradona: “i am no one”
I don't know... I've seen Robben do things messi's done.
@@Larry4life how often? 🧐
Perfectly said.
If Messi was producing the numbers Maradona produced at his peak, people would consider Messi finished. But to win the World Cup at 35yrs old and finish the competition as the best player despite the whole competition littered with youngsters. This is something people don't seem to consider.
World cup was given to him.
@@marcusmccullough1711 yeah it was given to him by the FIFA president and then he lifted it with the lights. That is how the award ceremony works.....
@@foa0695 He means the tournament was rigged, which is factually correct
@@marcusmccullough1711 Factos
@@PessiTheFraud I know what he means but it is wrong. You guys will always have complaints. You are not even French fans
He said winning a world cup doesn't make the greatest player, yet then contradicts himself by saying Maradona was greater than Messi, which he's obviously basing on Maradona winning the world cup... Also, while I agree winning a world cup doesn't make someone the best; given it's a team trophy, neither does doing it in different leagues. What makes Messi superior to Ronaldo is that he's always been the better footballer, who as a result provides more for his team. Ronaldo at his peak was much more than just the poacher he's become, yet his greatness has always been defined far more by goals than Messi. Some of Messi's best ever performances have come in games where he hasn't scored, while Ronaldo's iconic matches are big games where he's scored goals. Messi has always been a far superior dribbler, is able to dictate the play with his passing, and has exceptional vision. For him at 35 to be doing what he is at this world cup just underlines further why he's the best ever.
He made so many flawed points. Piers has an agreement with ronaldo’s company, in return he is ronaldo’s uk PR ambassador. He’s just a slimey weasel who will say what he needs to
Its not flawed stop trying to sound smart. Messi hasnt won it despite having a very strong team in his prime for years, coming from a world cup winning nation.
maradona won the league with Napoli
@@idreeskhan8885 Argentina was a trash team for a long time and definitely wasn't a good team during Messi's prime. It's only recently they started playing good football.
@@MrLogic-ci3tu Portgual before Ronaldo was like Norway, Argentina before Messi had won two world cups and greats like Maradona to look upto.
No way he just said this is the first World Cup Messi has turned up to. So is he completely ignoring that Messi won the Golden Ball for the WC in 2014?
The guy says whatever he can think of because he is the PR mouth for Ronaldo. Let's face it, Ronaldo can't do it on the field any more so he needs a paid agent to keep putting his name out there.
"It's the first world cup Messi has turned up to"
Wasn't he voted player of the tournament in 2014 when he took Argentina to the final?
No way he should of got that award. It was a set up. Him to win final and get that award. Football is a big fix.
@@shaunharding2297 Nope, Messi was excellent in 2014
People and journos disagreed with that. As with his ballen doers when iniesta should have won and lewandeski
I thought it was hilarious when he said that. The guy who made it to the final and lost a close game in extra time to a German team that horsed Brazil 7-1 on there home ground in the semi hasn’t showed up in a World Cup.Piers is an absolute 🤡
And which world cups has Ronaldo turned up to lol
Let's be honest if Lionel Messi had told Piers Morgan that he had great abs like Ronaldo did and did a sit down interview with him he'd be saying Messi was the best.
Both Ronaldo and Messi are 2 of the greatest of all time, however the difference is when you watch Ronaldo on the pitch he's an incredible goal scorer but when you watch Messi you're watching an artist at work. Not just his goals but his assists, his vision, his manipulation of the ball is incredible.
they are definitely legends but tbh messi is way better messi is the best at almost every thing goalscoring he better shooting dribbling passing playmaking carrying accelaration defense every thing besides heading and jumping
Maradonna was famous for his volleyball 🏐 in football grounds and his boy Messi, a penalty kick specialist is going to be humiliated by Mbappe, the Lion.
Absolutely agree, Messi is way better than Ronaldo.
@@AsadAli-jc5tg This has been penned in for the final ,even before the world cup stated ,strange feeling Messi will come out on top
@@jamiegormer1010 But Messi is now openly playing volleyball, giving a middle finger to VAR. I think world volleyball association should induct him in their hall of fame along with Maradona and Suarez.
When they both played in the same league at the same time Messi won 16 trophies and Ronaldo won 6 from the trophies that only Spanish teams could win. I think this settles it
but the Ronaldo fan girls will argue Messi had a better supporting cast which is fucking comical seeing as though Real Madrid was the most expensive club in the world.
@@DH-ij9pe They are delusional pendu fan girl🤥🐢
@@DH-ij9pe either its Delusional girls or singma kids who want to look cool so they worship his physical appearance
And Ronaldo was playing with the best team in the World. Real Madrid.
@@DH-ij9pe it's funny that they'll see this even after messi dribbled the whole madrid team in 2011
Ronaldo getting his friends to explain why he's the GOAT. Messi SHOWING us why he's the GOAT.
Messi is the best.. No question.. Piers is Ronaldos friend.. Messi is in a different class..
Exactly, Piers has no clue what he's talking about. He's a bias idiot.
Messi is chemically enhanced years of steroids to make him better he wouldn’t be the same player without them or he wouldn’t have been injecting himself for 10 years
exactly, ronaldo is GOAT to only his friends and few fans, but messi is the GOAT of 90% of football lovers. no more questions
Messi made it to the finals. Show not tell whos the best....
Piers has very selective memory. 2014 World Cup Messi won all three Argentina games. 4 goals in three matches.
Winner against Iran, Winner against Serbian Montenegro, Brace against Nigeria for a 2-3 win.
A United fan and it’s always been Messi for me. I wish he’d play forever. He’s just mesmerising to watch.
You know you're great when even a fan of a team you annihilated and took 2 ucls from, still loves you.
Respect from a real fan
No way you're a utd fan. Sorry
@@Larry4life what makes you say that? Just because I’m not a Ronaldo fanatic? I’m a United fan not a player fan.
Like it or not Messi is way better than Ronaldo.
That's the thing about Messi, we just want to watch him play. Couldn't care less about records, achievements etc. We just want to watch him forever
It’s funny In 2019 Morgan said on his Twitter that Messi is number 1. He since changed his mind since Ronaldo give him the time of day. Hahaha
He used to be left wing too when he ran the Mirror - doubt he even knows what he believes himself
Money buys opinion. Piers Morgan is just like a lawyer.
Piers is a proper grifter. Picks and chooses his positions as he sees fit. Hypocrisy be damned.
Yeah isn't that tweet still up? lmao.
Piers is the UK PR ambassador of ronaldo. Its the agreement they have and it brings money/exposure for piers
The irony of piers Morgan talking about "messi fanboys"
Lol he needs to clean his nose with all the brown nosing
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sheesh. u got triggered quickly
he's right though lmao both of their fanboys are annoying as hell
@@sheedo1999 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Morgan’s ability to be wrong about everything is really quite something.
Did he really say Messi hardly did anything at the 2014 World Cup. Does he not remember who got awarded player of the tournament? 😂
He meant 2010 and 2006 WC . That was prime messi wasn't it ?
@@ajaycyriljose9419 messi has 3 primes that’s how good he is
Recency bias. Messi was poor against Holland in semis and just decent in the final vs Germany. But he carried Argentina through he group stages and early knockouts.
@@awfan221 Argentina scored 7 goals and Messi was involved in 5 of them. If Di Maria was not injured in 2014 , then Argentina probably would have won against Germany.
And he still lost the Ballon D'or that year to Ronaldo who had a career ending injury
Ronaldo's the GOAT 🐐
Piers Morgan: “Messi was surrounded by great players at Barcelona and Ronaldo was mostly alone”. That sentence alone tells you how much Piers knows about football. Madrid had Modric, Kroos, Benzema, Casillas and Ramos.
And it's a stupid comment because Morgan wishes to ingratiate himself with Ronaldo fans - many of whom are RM supporters - and he thinks it's a good idea to insult RM in the process by saying Ronaldo played with a sh*t team. Morgan is a total goose who will say anything for money.
Benzema, bale ,modric ,di Maria, kroos xabi Alonso ,ramos , Marcelo, ozil , pepe
That’s like an insult to all these Madrid legends of cr7 days in Spain
Kaka , Modric, & Benzema, are Balon d’or winners. Raul and Casillas came close to winning. Bale, Ramos, Alonzo, Modric, Ozil, Marcelo Viera, Di Maria, Kroos, Isco, Casemiro, Carvajal, Khedira and James are all world class players. Most expensive club squad ever.
Yup, the same bunch that kept winning the UCL and La Liga after Ronaldo left.
Piers says Messi isn’t even better than maradona, then at the end of the conversation says Ronaldo and Messi will go down as 1 and 2 😂
He's all over the place, inconsistency everywhere
He can't ever say Messi > Ronaldo or he'll get cut off
He will get cancelled by ronaldo lmao
Haha! Piers is such a loser man
‘Ronaldo had to lead the line pretty much on his own’ yeah he had to put up with Benzema, Bale, Modric, Kroos, Ramos and all those other duds
I know
It’s such a stupid argument, look where Barca are now that Messi left, look at Real Madrid now that Ronaldo left, just won another CL 😂. Piers is delusional, killed me when he talked about the “Messi fanboys” as well, how much more hypocritical can you get 😂
And the list goes on... Alonso, Ozil, Di Maria, Casillas, Varane, Higuain, Kaka etc. At United he had Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Scholes, Giggs, Vidic, Ferdinand, Van der Sar, Nani, Van Nistelrooy etc.
It truly shows that madrid was still a top 3 team without ronaldo lmao. Ofc with him there it's no wonder they won 3 UCLs in a row, And without him still won a UCL and made several semi finals appearances, and he has yet to even make a semi final without them lmao.
I think he meant at international level
Lionel Messi after WC 2022 final: “you were saying, piers?”
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Getting Piers Morgan on his payroll was a smart move by Ronaldo I cant lie. Now he can chill on the bench while Piers is out there fighting the world for him, brilliant!
Yeah piers talking about media bias for messi, while being one for ronaldo is the biggest irony.
Factos👍👍👍
Ronaldo was capable of normal things that take dedication, Messi is capable of things we never saw.
Never saw? Not sure about you but I have seen players do the things he's done. People forget football has existed for a long time.
Lol normal
No one can replicate Messi, Ronaldo however is something easily replicated and that's why the young players idolize Ronaldo so much.
@@christopherhughes497 i've never seen someone score 91 in a year, score 73 in a season whilst getting 25 assists, or take ir around 5 defenders away to madrid in a UCL semi final and score, or toy with the whole Man u team in the 2011 UCL final and get a 10 rating, no one has ever done this things.
Messi has never scored the free kick vs portsmouth
Maradona took on a whole england team and scored ....messi took on a 2nd rate la liga team....levels
Not really Messi’s fault that he was so good Barca wanted to keep him for as long as he lived.
And it was his boyhood club why would you want to leave 🤣
Not Ronaldo's fault he was so good every massive club on earth wanted him...
@@Alan_Wigz Every massive club in the World would have taken Messi as well so that's a dumb comment... 🤦♂️
@@Alan_Wigz actually not everyone but continue
@@samplingmastersxlr8660 You're right. I dont think Scunthorpe United wanted him...
We all want friends like Piers😅 No logic applicable, just defend your friend no matter what!!!Bromance at its peak.
absolutely, the most ridiculous doubts that the English raise about Messi's legacy. "Can he do against Stoke City." He could have left the entire team for dead and score a hat trick before half time against them...
@@avinashrulz no bro, ronaldo can score against Stoke in rainy night. That's why he has zero goals in 5 wc knockouts. Coz none of the matches were at rainy night at stoke. This is all a conspiracy, wc should be held at Stoke. If there's no rain, fifa should do an artificial one, so we can judge who's good.
It might be more than a bromance with Ronaldo if you get my drift
@@avinashrulz People are being sarcastic. In a cold rainy night on stoke is a meme
This clown saying Messi has been surrounded by 'great players' and Ronaldo was pretty much on his own....
Meanwhile Ronaldo's teammates in Manchester - Paul Scholes, Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs, etc.
His teammates in Madrid - Mesut Ozil, Tony Kroos, Luka Modric, Xabi Alonso, Marcelo, Di Maria, Casemiro,etc.
Portugal teammates- Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Joao Felix, Joao Cancelo, Pepe
In Juventus: Paulo Dybala, Chellini, Cancelo, Rabiot, Danilo
Piers “This is the first World Cup Messi has turned up in.”
2014 World Cup Messi was voted player of the tournament
and literally put Argentina on his back and carried them to the final.
He really should not have been. He looked embarassed to receive the award. It was even a meme for a while - "Best Player Messi". Football existed before 2022 son.
@@basedelon The fact that a bunch of Ronaldo fanboys were jealous is not a valid reason for saying the best player in the tournament shouldn't have been given the award. Messi single handedly won the games against Serbia, Iran and Nigeria, made the magic play against Switzerland, played the pass of the tournament to De Maria against Holland, and in the final put it on plate for Higuaín to win the game in regulation time but Higuaín missed a sitter. Messi was head and shoulders above any other player in the tournament and had 4 MOTM awards, but the footballing genius that is Morgan calls that "not turning up". His comment can't be taken seriously, he's just paid to push Ronaldo, and the fact that Ronaldo needs mouths for hire like Morgan speaks volumes.
@@basedelon while your opinion is valid, you’ve literally just disqualified yourself from adult conversation
@@jacktandy7720 my opinion isn't valid , it's right. Talking about conversation, you haven't added to it. Seems you have disqualified yourself.
There literally isn't a debate, in terms of watching them and footballing ability Messi is so much better, Ronaldo has managed to get in the debate by scoring 819 career goals which is incredible, but that is the only thing he has over Messi, more goals, and Messi is only 28 goals behind him despite playing 143 less games, and playing as a midfielder most of the time, apart from the goals stats, there really is no comparison, Messi is by far the GOAT. ON the biggest stage, the world cup, Messi has dragged Argentina to 2 finals in 8 years and the one in between they were beaten 4-3 by the champions France with a shocking team, and Messi has got several goals and assists in the knockouts of world cup games, and has scored in the last 16, QF and SF of this world cup alone and Ronaldo in 5 world cups has never scored or assisted in a knockout game.
Messi has nightmares about the premier league
I agree, but he certainly hasn't been a midfielder most of the time.
@@RAM-A-NATHAN Guess who has the most goals vs prem clubs in the UCL?
Guess who is in the top 10 list of most goals scored vs prem teams
Messi.
If he played in the prem, he would rip the league apart and break the record for top scorer in his prime.
not only about stats, When you watch Messi then you watch Ronaldo, you see that Messi is CLEAR of Ronaldo, like this man is a magician. Ronaldo is amazing, but not even close to Messi, he only got to the goat debate because of his stats and achievements not because he plays as good as Messi
@@RAM-A-NATHAN Seemed to have done pretty well against their teams for the most part though!!
You can tell how little Piers knows about football in this clip.
he mentioned gazza with the greats haha
What?....a football fan in amongst 3.5 billion others sharing his opinion?
@@Alan_Wigz 3.5 billion share which opinion?
@@MrPeanut17lufc An opinion about football
@@Alan_Wigzhe's entitled to an opinion but you can tell he lacks football knowledge.
"Ronaldo is way ahead of Messi" Only in flight schedules 😭
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Underrated comment!
true!!!
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@Bruno Souza and also in getting lost in oil nassr
What's ironic is some try to claim CR is on another level to Messi when it comes to performing in the biggest games, yet ignore that on the biggest stage of them all, Ronaldo has failed to even score or assist a single world cup knockout goal. Meanwhile, Messi now has 9 combined goals/assists in world cup knockout games. Other than one standout game against Spain, Ronaldo has never been able to replicate his club form at world cups. The fact some regarded CR as a better performer at international level, due to his goal record, was always completely flawed. Most of those goals came in qualifying, against some of the worst footballing nations around. The majority of those goals were against sides like Lithuania, Latvia, Luxembourg, Armenia, Andorra, Faroe Islands, etc. Messi doesn't face sides anywhere near that weak in his qualifying group. Not to mention, Messi has had more standout tournaments for his country and won 3 best player awards at those, while Ronaldo has never won any.
Fi real and him not saying anything about that
Congrats my g! This is it! THE GOAT IS MESSI!!!!!!!
The sad thing is that you can throw all these facts out that make it clear and obvious who the better player is but they Ronaldo fanboys will still come crying at you with zero evidence to back up their claim. Ronaldo is an incredible footballer that's had an incredible career but Messi has been in a league of his own for a long, long time
Who’s going to read all that like who has the time
@@mikepriestey2547 the guy below you has just proved exactly what you said lol.
Piers in meltdown mode in defending Ronaldo is hilarious 😂
Ronaldo dick riders brigade
The only people in melt down are the fanboys in the comments lmao. Why do you care what Piers has to say on it that much? It's his opinion 😂😂. And i'm no Pendu or Pessi fan
@@ARationalObserversame reason you cared to comment
@@ARationalObserver you’re clown though so not funny
@@ARationalObserver The only reason England's WC loss didn't make me sad was because I realised that Piers Morgan would be out there crying somewhere.
Piers Morgan used to slam Ronaldo in articles until he became friends with him
The lure of money 💸 changes people
He also made a tweet in 2019 where called messi the best player in the world lmao
He's two faced.....he only like people who bum him off. Probably that's why he doesn't like Megan.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ikr. What's wrong with him? Any objectiveness at all?
Messi Play
His swiftly flowing moves sublime
Let's us be on God's Mountain high!
Though we stand on earthly ground
We divinely share in his heavenly realm!
Only a non-feeling-atheist would claim to be
Bored by Lionel's God-gifted Liberty.
Now thanks to Messi, we are divinized as ONE;
God's glorified messenger replaces,
the communistic--rainbow, with the SON.
Piers Morgan is the definition of a “Ronaldo Fan boy”
Bro is older than you knew football longer he knows who the goat is bro
@@ezziex1248but now everybody has accepted messi is goat 🐐 expect some ronaldo fanboys 😂
@@ezziex1248Does Pierce know more about football than a Ballon D'Or/FIFA Best/Laureus award voter? Pierce is just ronaldo fan(old)boy.😂
Piers: winning the World Cup doesn’t make Messi the GOAT.
Also Piers: talks about Ronaldo having the greater career means he’s the better player…?
First of all, greater career is a different debate to the greater player, but even if trophies were the defining factor, winning the WC would make Messi’s career perfect, so he’s better that way too.
Piers has checkmated himself 🤦🏽♂️😂
Ps as a United fan, his recent tantrums aside, I’ll always adore Ronaldo, but removing my bias, I can’t deny Messi being the greatest ever.
Or how he admits Pele's greatness even though Pele only played in one inferior league
@@lperea21 brazil had the best league at the time bruv 😅
Thank you Piers for confirming that Ronaldo was adamant that the goal touched his head. That is the kind of thing he argues about instead of being happy that the team won. And then he sulked when substituted and hence the coach benched him
CR7 is just some Grumpy Old Man now
Yeah ronaldo fanboys tried to cope that there isn't any sources that said so, but piers morgan himself stated it lmao.
@@tikikeram850 yea, a fanboy was denying the other day that Ronaldo tried to claim that goal. I told him that Ronaldo texted Piers Morgan and was still adamantly claiming the goal instead of being happy the team are finally winning against a strong team like Uruguay. The fanboy denied that, now Piers Morgan on record just confirmed it. Don't forget that the Portuguese coach and Bruno Fernandes tried to cover up for Ronaldo after the incident, but now Piers Morgan has finally shed the light on what is truly going on in their dressing room
facts 🤝
Exactly my point, couldn’t have said it better.
how does going to Juventus and winning the league title when they had won it the previous 7 years in a row before he joined make him better than Messi, Messi went to a PSG team that didn't even win the league before he joined despite having Neymar and Mbappe and led them to a league title, Ronaldo didn't conquer Spain winning 2 leagues in 7 years, and Man U are the most succesful English club who had won league titles and trebles before and after Ronaldo.
Ligue 1 is not a real league
@@fifiadan neither is serie A, 9 league title in a row for Juventus, farmer legaue
It was 2 in 9 years at Madrid mate
@@kevinodonnell3216 yh my bad
@@markwilly4245 people go to retire to arabian league...just like ronaldo :D :D
Eat this Pierce: "You train to become Ronaldo, but pray to become Messi"
The Stoke question is the worst thought experiment in football. 7 Ballon D'ors but the acid test is whether you can take it past Robert Huth and knock it past Begovic when it's raining.
LOL. Right? Messi spent last night turning Gvardiol, probably the best performing defender at this World Cup, inside out. And this is a Messi falling off. 😅
Ballon dor voted by people never played football
yes, guy has won record individual awards + reached 2 wc finals , and the main argument against his greatness is whether he could perform against toffees at goodison :)))) as if , it was me who won 2 ucl finals against manchester united that was dominating Epl in rainy days , obliterating arsenal and its neighbour mighty spurs. Guy was playing in laliga competing against real madrid and atletico, how many trophies has spanish teams won in europe last decade and how many english clubs ? silly discussion , stupidness of this argument is beyond sky.
and Ronaldo has never 'done it away to Stoke' anyway lol
@@jalberto428 they should have let huth vote .
What annoys me with talksport is Simon is the only one with bottle to absolutely grill piers on his football opinions 😂 literally all his points could’ve been ripped apart by anyone with some actual footy knowledge
Exactly.... Everyone else sits there like a flower girl
Even Simon is a total idiot with only English media exposure and thinks that Ronaldo is better. Even he uses the nonsense "different leagues" argument.
Ask him to look at Messi's stats vs the PL teams in the CL. He has only ever played against the top 4 in the PL and he has ridiculous numbers.
Simon says Ronaldo is his goat over Messi…
@@brickbywicks9051 yeah but he still pushes back on things like a good pundit should. Like when he ripped apart piers‘s hypocrisy over the Harry and Meghan interview where they weren’t pushed on anything they said he was very critical however he did the exact same with the ronaldo interview. Just sat there and had his head up CR7’s backside the entire time 😂
It´s no turning back for these type of opnions. They don´t want to waste their energy and time on him.
when ronaldo scores people say WOW
But when messi scores people say HOW
Wen ronaldo scores people say yawn coz it's the same old tapin
Well said!
Haven’t wowed at a Ronaldo goal in years… and not many times in total either🤣
People say wow with Ronaldo because he rarely ever does now.
We say SIIUUUUU not WOW
Is Ronaldo better than Messi? Is Maradona better than Messi? Is Mbappe better than Messi? Is Pele better than Messi?
Don't those questions say it all? Everyone compares other players to Messi, because he is the top player, that is why.
I always saw CR7 in the top 2 of greatest goalscorers no doubt but never to this day saw him in the top 5 footballers!!
@chatukar Finally another Messi bummer who has the same opinion as me*
I think that is a stretch. def top 5 but messi is the def the goat. I think because ronaldo has scored 800+ goals and 200+ assists and won 5 ballondors he shud be top 5 minimum. However, there are players who are more technical and better than him in other aspects of the game. However, his goal contributing achivements alone deserve to make him top 5 in the history of the game.
@@brucebanner645 And sadly no Ronaldo 'bummers' for you to agree with here.
@@JuanSeba90 some of us have a brain and can acknowledge both of them as being the GOATs. Messi is incredible, his fanboys are pathetic.
This!!! 👍🏽👍🏽
Am a Ronaldo fan but damn...Piers is embarrassing...Messi answered that question this World Cup & throughout his career. If he wins the World Cup with Argentina, then GAME OVER.
For Piers rainy night at stokes is more important than running over Gvardiol in a WC semifinal. Ridiculous agenda to potray something that never exists
Cristiano has won more in his career over multiple leagues clearly that is evidence enough. Messi may still lose in the world cup final again then what?
@@GabrielA-ug1vp Messi has won 37 trophies to Ronaldos 34. Messi has more individual awards too including 2 more Ballon D’or awards, are you just going to keep blindly lying??
@@alfiegoff96 pretty sure Messi won more in trophies in their head to head la liga years. It bewilders me the lengths some Ronaldo fans will go too not see the truth
Put Messi in Portugal team and let me see how far they'd go. Argentina team is way stronger than Portugal team. It's like saying Modrić is not a world class midfielder because he couldn't win world cup with Croatia. You guys are completely insane.
Piers Morgan talking about the first Man U team/Real Madrid and juventus like they were struggling teams
Ray Hudson "Messi didn't make defenders cry, he make them wear diapers"
If Pires got the balls he should have this debate with Ray Hudson, who cried on live commentary when Messi does the unthinkable. Bearing in mind, Ray also played against Maradona!
Ronaldo is largely a goal scoring machine while Messi is a footballing artist. The sheer and pure joy you experience when the ball is at Messi’s feet with his simple but majestic close control, dribbling through multiple players and out-of-this-world assists is incomparable.
The fact of the matter is Pier Morgan would be singing a totally different tune should Messi give him some time.
Messi scores more goals per game, has scored more non-penalty goals than ronaldo (in 2 years less playing time), scores more from outside the box.. ronaldo is a selfish career-stat chaser..
The fact is: Piers is paid by Ronaldo’s PR team to be his UK PR ambassador. In return he also gets big exclusive interviews and to capitalise off of the popularity and exposure of the star ronaldo.
This video is sickening listening to these dumb ‘experts’ sit back while piers is making mostly flawed points with disingenuous statistics.. Piers is such a scumbag
You acting like Messi is the only player in history who dribbles past multiple defenders 😂😂.
No one has done consistently like him. Even now at 35 on the biggest of stages. Come on you won’t deny it will you?
@@benjamynmaung2970 Diñho and Maradona were dribbling past multiple defenders for years lmao. Nothing new.
@@giovannirodriguez4444 how many years?
No one here challenged him on anything he was saying... Piers said this is the only World Cup that Messi has 'turned up in' yet in 2014 Argentina also got to the World Cup Final where Messi won Player of the Tournament with 4 goals and 1 assist in 7 games...
That's cause all Laura does is cheerlead at times. Cringe.
And where was the Ronaldo him just don't like Messi and that's it
nobody takes Piers Morgans football opinion seriously mate... certainly not ex-international footballers
Messi will fall
spot on , i literally could not belive what i was hearing , what was worse like you say no one challanged him on anything, these 3 are suppose to be the excperts , they just sat back and agreed with everything he said, !
Piers Morgan pretending he’s watching football instead of sitting at home drinking Twinings obsessing over Megan Markle
Exactly
Now that Messi and Ronaldo debate is settled, who is better between CR7 and Grealish ? 😂😂😂
MESSI be cause ESPN SAY SO
Nope. The GOAT is Lord Bendtner. 😜
Comparing Ronaldo with Lewandowski or Suarez actually makes sense.
Respect grealii
Messi and Ronaldo played in the same league for 9 years, both had teams that demolished the other 18, the titles came down to head to heads between them. Messi walked away with 6 league titles in those 9 years and Ronaldo won 2. That alone ends the debate.
Messi is the goat but it isn't because his team won more league titles. People need to stop using team trophies as a comparison, it's nonsensical.
Not really, we all know Barca was the better team, swap Ronaldo And Messi teams, Ronaldo would have put up ridiculous numbers and titles in that Barca team
@@jcmtmusic6297 nonsense , Messi carried barca for years after neymar , inniesta and Xavi left managed by Barto and won trophies ballon do'r , Golden shoes ... etc He was the scorer and creater , Same period Ronaldo was enjoying the midfield of Modric , Kroos and Casemiro ..
What about European Championships though :)?
@@user-he2ou2ex2f I'm playing Piers game here and showing how even by his standards Ronaldo isn't up to Messi's level.
Messi: better goalscorer, better dribbler, better playmaker, better passer, better IQ, better freekicks, better decision making
Ronaldo: Faster, better in the air, better penalties
As players the argument isn’t even close, Messi is clearrrrrrrr 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Perfect analysis…
Not sure Ronaldo is faster… messi is absolutely rapid - WITH THE BALL
@@hmu05366 I would agree, however in a foot race, Ronaldo would win
Then Maldini was not the greatest defender because he played only for AC Milan. This argument with multiple leagues is the stupidest ever. Real Madrid manage to have success without CR, but Barcelona didn’t even manage to get out from CL group stage after Messi left.
The same Maldini that didn't win the Wc, but is widely accepted as the goat defender, as he should I might say, but when it comes to messi it's not the same.
And that is why Real Madrid is better than Barcelona and Ronaldo is better than Messi
Before Piers became besties with Ronaldo, he called him a crybaby & said Messi was clearly better than him😂
How hard does he have to work to prove it. Piers need to stop this. It’s getting embarrassing now.
He does not have to stop because he is already an embarassment. He is clown and a joke
@@mimikolomamu absolutely. I can’t believe he goes so hard on this. One thing I’ve learned from this messi v ronaldo debate is that you can’t really bash any of them. You can support one of them. But can’t really bash the other. Because they are both extraordinary. And piers being such a revered journalist shouldn’t act like this in favour of ronaldo. He uses such harsh words for messi that it’s idiotic.
@@simranlongiaa I find Piers funny. Like a clown these days. I smile everytime he opens up his opinions about Ronaldo VS Messi.😄.
@@mrt2129 the way he pushes his agenda, he makes it amply clear with his own tone, that he’s holding a lost argument.
This clown saying Messi has been surrounded by 'great players' and Ronaldo was pretty much on his own....
Meanwhile Ronaldo's teammates in Manchester - Paul Scholes, Wayne Rooney, Ryan Giggs, etc.
His teammates in Madrid - Mesut Ozil, Tony Kroos, Luka Modric, Xabi Alonso, Marcelo, Di Maria, Casemiro,etc.
Portugal teammates- Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Joao Felix, Joao Cancelo, Pepe
In Juventus: Paulo Dybala, Chellini, Cancelo, Rabiot, Danilo
If you talk about challenge and comfort zone, don't forget that Messi has taken the Argentine team to two finale of the most competitive tournament, world cup by carrying the whole team on his own shoulder.
But even this comfort argument is silly. Ronaldo didn’t play for Stoke, Calgari and Real betis, he played for the biggest team in England Spain and Italy. Ronaldo and Messi played together in Spain for 9 years. Messi won 6 titles in that time Ronaldo won 2.
LOL. I can never take Piers Morgan seriously again
It’s such a pointless debate that will seemingly never end. Stats aside, it really comes down to who do you prefer watching? For me it’s Messi every day of the week. Messi reminds me of that one kid at school, who you could never get the ball off and way just miles better than everyone else. I’m sure everyone has played football with someone like that at some point. The difference is Messi has been doing that at the highest level for years. For me, there’s just a level of excitement you get when Messi is on the ball and he’s dribbling past 3 or 4 defenders and nobody can touch him. He’s scored some ridiculous solo goals, but for me it’s not just the goals, it’s the ability to spot a pass and play the ball with perfect weight for the receiving players. He seems to spot passes and be one step ahead all the time. Some of his assists are more beautiful than the goals he’s scored. Ronaldo is phenomenal, no doubt about that, but this GOAT debate comes down to personal preference and for me it’s Messi. I know it won’t but I just wish this debate would go away and we could all just appreciate that we’ve witnessed two of the most sensational players to have ever played the game, playing at the same time. Both are nearing the end of their careers, so let’s just be thankful that we witnessed those careers in their entirety. It will be a long time until we see the likes of either of them again.
Messi is so clear, why is this even a debate.
Do you have enough knowledge about football to debate about who the GOAT is ? I doubt … you are saying Messi cuz you are his fanboy
@@wandumazgabu7252 the general consensus is that Messi is far greater, from fanboys and objective fans too.
@@wandumazgabu7252 you’re literally saying ronaldo because you’re a fan boy and you probably wish you had six pack abs like him. Ronaldo isn’t even the best ronaldo. R9 > R7 but you probably never even watched R9 play and too busy jerking off over CR7 comps on RUclips
@@arnold-hu4vk this is not a personality contest , people don’t like Ronaldo’s personality and make them lean more towards Messi, Messi is a better talent but Ronaldo is a better all round player , FACT
@@Yaqztrey5 saying 'fact' in no way makes anything you say actually a fact, People don't like Ronaldo's personality AND can see that Messi is a far grester all round player, Ronaldo is a very good striker.
The metrics Piers uses to compare Messi & Ronaldo (goals, trophies etc) aren't the same metrics he uses to compare Messi and Maradona...
The thing is, if you compare messi without bias with any metric of your choosing, messi will still win.
Exactly. He says Maradona is better than Messi because he wins a World Cup. But Ronaldo is better than Messi despite never scoring a goal in a WC knock out, because Ronaldo has more goals. But Messi has more goals than Maradona, but that doesn't count. and suddenly it's not world cups but total goals. This is the thing with Ronaldo fanboys (or paid agents like Morgan) the arguments they come up with are just embarrassing, they are cringe-worthy, but because there's so many RM and ManU fans, it doesn't matter how many times their stupidity is called out, another one just takes their place.
@@daleviker5884 alot of madrid and man u fans say that messi is better, at least after he leaves their club.
Some of them stay in their delusion tho, proved in multiple leagues my ass, easily the worst argument I have ever heard.
Exactly. How many WCs has Ronaldo won or “turned up to”
Remember, Messi dragged Argentina to the final in 2014. If Higuain takes that chance he wins it.
Messi played less games. He will surpass ronaldo goals in far less matches
Piers: ”Hello?”
Ronaldo: ”It’s me.”
Piers: ”What happened?”
Ronaldo: ”The National Team.”
Piers: “Say no more! Interview tomorrow?”
Poor pessi dog 🐶
@@sardoraktamov our idol won wc and your😂😂😂😂🐪🐪🐪🐪
Ever since the Piers Morgan interview, ronaldo has lost .
Messi won the World Cup .Messi had the better International career. Messi has the better club career . Ronaldo never managed to score/assist in a WC knockout game , on the biggest stage of all . Piers Morgan single handedly tarnished ronaldo's public reputation and that's the saddest part about it .
Penaldo ran away from Spain to be top scorer now got sacked from a europa league club what a challenge 🤣🤣🤣
@@GIBBO4182 infact he ruined the atmosphere of juve
Yet Messi joins psg who just lost the league to Lille and it’s an easy move
@@GIBBO4182 Ronaldo joins a team that wins 7 in a row and he’s challenging himself😂
@@kevinodonnell3216 i think he was tryna win the ucl, but the team was aging as mandzukic was old, higuain was trash, matuidi pjanic Khedira were all aging. With that I just thing he was a scape goat. Winning the league was def not a challenge but winning the ucl with a juve team that hadnt won it in 3 decades or so is a challenge.
@@av7productions530 Juventus had been runner up in two CLs so Ronaldo was brought in to win it. The league title was a given. But they didn't win the CL, they went backwards.
😂 I take it Messi has refused to grant Piers an audience. Ronaldo is an all-time great player, but LM is something even beyond that.
It's noticeable that over the years, Messi has been held to ludicrous, borderline unrealistic standards which even CR7 isn't.
LM will also finish up his career better, willing to adapt for whatever role club and country require of him. Here's the biggest difference of all: Ronaldo needs to be told he's the greatest, Messi quietly knows that he is.
No azapro i don't think Cristiano does not need to be told how great he is he knows he is the greatest
Wow. He even went as far as saying the messi gets the image of being an angel by the media. Just wow. What is he getting out of this really ?
Hoping Ronaldo will see this and believe his bullshit feeding his ego
Please
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Ridiculous isn't it
It's true tho, i've never seen anyone criticize Messi in the media, it's always Ronaldo this Ronaldo that...
After this 2022 World Cup, we don’t want Messi vs Cristiano argument. Messi has won World Cup and Cristiano hasn’t. Messi Is the GOAT 🐐
The first and only footballing attribute piers mentioned in this interview as to why Ronaldo is better, was the fact he’s better in the air , says it all
Lol totally..Messi is a genius
Absolutely, what a Dong.
Whilst messi scored that wonderful header against my beloved united in the UCL final rising high against Ferdinand. These numpties need a life.
He knows Messi is the greatest. He’s just not his friend.
Ronaldo is 6'1, messi is 5'7 lol
"Barcelona comfort blanket". Somebody should tell Piers that to be in that blanket that long in Barcelona, you have to be insanely good. Only a select few legends have remained in that club from La Masia to playing over 10 years of club football in the modern era. Ronaldo could not have stayed on in Real. They didn't want him in that team. He didn't move to Juve to explore new challenges. He did it because he wasn't wanted at Real anymore.
I respect your opinion but no! The reason cr7 left madrid was not because madrid didn't want him anymore, who would want their best player to leave their club?
Also, his contract was extended till 2021 the season before he left.
@@krrish751 yes i am a Messi fan but it was ronadlo who left real
yeah i think they wanted to cut ronaldo salary and make him 2nd star or something, he was pissed. Ronaldo's pace had dropped off and madrid disliked it.
It’s not even a debate…and it hasn’t been for a long time. When youre looking at PURE footballing ability, Messi is miles clear of ronaldo. The only thing you can compare them on is goal scoring. But Messi is still the best at doing that. Piers is protecting his relationship with Ronaldo. Hes absolutely obsessed with him. Instead of just putting his bias aside and appreciating what is the greatest player of all time, Lionel Messi.
What are does footballer abilities that Ronaldo hasn't mtcheew you guys are really funny swears
Nyerma has great qualities way more than Messi and/or Ronaldo but in the end people prefer the way Messi or Ronaldo does his thing so in the end it's all about preference get it in to you head sir
Better goal per game ratio. Way more assists, much better dribbler. Now just won World Cup with player of the tournament and last year won Copa in Brazil against Brazil as player of the tournament.
The debate is done.
Morgan is being hilarious again
He’s a creepy weirdo
It clearly shows how ignorant people are when they base their argument on how hard CR7 trains. How do you know Messi doesn't train just as hard or even harder than CR7. Just because CR7 loves the media attention and posts his training videos online does not mean Messi has to stoop to the same level. If Messi is not training very hard he would not be able to win so many man of the match awards this WC. Pure talent can only bring you so far. CR7 definitely works harder than Messi when it comes to a fews aspects. Those are marketing himself and proclaiming to be the GOAT. He may be a sheep.
So , now Messi has an opportunity to win the world cup, so all of over sudden, the world cup is not important anymore.
"Messi can't do it without Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi". Wins world cup with De paul, Mac Allister, Enzo. Goat 🐐
Even if Argentina lose on Sunday, this tournament has ended this debate (in Messi’s favour of course) for good.
Ronaldo is more ‘goals and stats dependent’ than Messi. Messi has a better goals per game ratio, and has scored more non-penalty goals. Plus he has significantly more assists, and Ronaldo’s 0 goals and 0 assists in World Cup knockout stage games vs. Messi’s contributions is stark.
And beyond stats it was clear to me since 2008/2009 that Messi has been the better player, with superior ability in terms of dribbling, passing, creating space, linking up and involving other players etc. I can think of many more matches when Messi hasn’t scored but has still been the best player on the pitch or at least excellent, than Ronaldo.
That will be put to bed if Giroud wins his 2nd WC this Sunday. Giroud - GOAT
@@basedelonoliver tap-in giroud.
@@dlionels my comment was in jest but...isn't it a striker's job to be there to put the ball in the net?
@@basedelon But as a footballer, Messi can do much more than a tap-in striker does.
@@dlionels sure. But I don't know what else you expect a striker to do. How do we define what is "best"?
Piers Morgan is so controversial and argumentative, I truly believe he thinks that Messi is better, he's just arguing because he likes the sound of his own voice, and Ronaldo gave him an interview!
Taking himself out of comfort zones? He left the other side of the planet as a child to play for his dream club. He played for Barca because he loved it, he was devastated when he had to leave, although Ronaldo has so many accolades he was never in the running because he was greedy and never a team player.
Messi needs to prove himself in Series A and Premier League, the two topmost competitive leagues in the world in terms of intensiveness and defense that would take a physical toll on any players playing there. Joining Paris-German after La Liga seems an easy way out at his age. Of course he is performing better than CRonaldo now. But I applaud the audacity and persistence of CRonaldo challenging himself at such advanced age, which is nothing short of tragic, sadly 😢
@@henrijuan7998 Messi doesn't need to prove nothing he's the goat. Cr7 got humiliated by Messi many times. Messi creates, assist and scores. Ronaldo only Scores
@@henrijuan7998 Messi has screwed the top clubs in those leagues during champions league matches...so very weak argument..
@@henrijuan7998 but he already has, he has beaten the best those leagues had to offer in the champions League. Every player should be of the Maradona mind set, where's the challenge of going to these big clubs that buy the trophies every year. Ronaldo was a flavour of the month player.
@@henrijuan7998 the juventus move was a scam lol to pad serie A.
Italian league is trash
Pl fine yh would have loved it if he played but way lesser players than him have smashed the pl and messi cl rec vs pl clubs is insane.
Piers has no idea what he’s talking about. Messi has a higher goal to game ratio despite playing 142 less games than CR he also scored 91 goals in a calendar year which is record braking. Messi has the most assists of all time which means he’s a better playmaker, a better team player. Messi is a better dribbler, better on the ball than CR7, and then if you want to talk about individual accolades, he has more golden boots and ballon d’Ors than Cristiano and now he’s even more accomplished at a international level by winning the World Cup. It was never really a debate to begin with!
Calling Italy a competitive league is also hilarious. They were on 7 league titles in a row when Ronaldo rocked up and made them a lesser side.
Wish more people had the balls to take his arguments down, because they’re really easy to knock down.
No point arguing with Piers anyways, he’s just a clown that only likes Ronaldo because he gives him interviews and therefore more popularity.
On 7 in a row when Ronaldo arrived, 9 shortly thereafter. Juventus was becoming an old team around that time so it's unfair to pin it solely on Ronaldo. You don't take into account the reemergence of the Milan teams and the consistency of Napoli.
Vs Premier league Top 6
Ronaldo
Games - 89
Goals - 36
Assists - 8
Goal/game ratio = 0.4
Total contribution G/A: 44
Messi
Games - 36
Goals - 27
Assists - 6
Goal/game ratio = 0.75
Total contribution G/A = 33
Yet these people argue some premier league superiority. Messi is simply better any how you want to look at this argument. Messi does not need to play in PL as he has shown superiority over the best PL teams in the champions league. Fake experts please grow some sense. This debate ended in April 2008 before it even began.
Piers Morgan successfully destroying his own reputation by fangirling Penaldo.
Eventually no one's going to take him seriously, not like anyone does that now.
lol you can't call Ronaldo renaldo when 9 of Messi's World Cup Goals are penalties lol
@@ucheofili3123 We can't take your opinion when Messi's is only scoring penalties...
@@ucheofili3123
Penaldo: Total World Cup goals = 8 (3 Penalties, 1 Freekick & 4 Open Play Goals)
Messi: Total World Cup Goals = 11 ( 3 Penalties, 1 Freekick & 7 Open Play Goals)
Assists = 8 (Most in World Cup history)
@@ucheofili3123 3/11 + 8 assists. Where’s Ronaldo’s knockout g/a?
Messi won with Argentina UEFA-CONMEBOL Finalissima, Copa America and World Cup in the last 2 years. What a fucking team. Now Ronaldo must freeze his body to play on future world cups lol.
Everyone needs a friend like Pierce Morgan 😂😂😂
Everyone actually does
He's insufferable
he has no friends. He thinks people like Ronaldo are his mate. Just like he thought Megan Markle was his mate then got pissy that a woman in her early thirties wasn't answering his calls. Pervy phone hacking letch.
no thanks hes a gammon
yes men as a friend?? nope
Piers Morgan has this incredible ability to never understand how anything works
Messi is an angelic figure. He's selfless and leads by example. Of course he plays like a lion on the pitch. But he helps his team mates, gives away goals even when he's on his way to a hattrick. Can you imagine Ronaldo doing something like that? Ronaldo also started a tsunami of slander v Messi when he won his 7th Ballon d'or. Messi said not a word. Messi never badmouths anyone.
It's not even true that Ronaldo had more goals or a far better goal rate in Spain. Messi had 329 goals in 209 games with a goal rate of 1.06472492 when both played in Spain and Ronaldo had 311 goals in 292 games with a goal rate of 1.06506849, which is only 0.00034357 more. Messi also had more than 50 assists during this time and won more league titles and Clásicos, in which he scored more goals / had more goal contributions. Btw. happy new year 🥳🎉
Pierce Morgan doesn’t know a thing about football he wanted artetta sacked not to long ago! Messi is up for the greatest player of all time! Ronaldo has not always done it alone he’s had quality players along side him especially at United when fergie was the one he made him let’s not forget!
He played with 3 balon d’or winners at Real Madrid too. Kaka, Modric and Benzema. In addition to a host of great players like Raul, Ramos, Bale, Alonzo, Kroos, Di Maria, Ozil, Marcelo, Casemiro, Casillas, Van der Vaart, Carvalho, Pepe, Carvajal and many others.
“He’s not even the goat of Argentina” both of them are better players than Ronaldo, so what’s the point of that? Then he goes on to talk about how Napoli only won things cuz of Maradona and that makes him better than Messi. That alone let’s me know he has no idea what he’s talking about cuz to this day barcelona are falling apart without Messi
Imagine being Ronaldo and the only person who thinks you're the goat is Piers Morgan
Journalist to Piers : whos the The best player of all time?
Piers: Ronaldo
Journalist to Ronaldo: whos the best Journalist in the world?
Ronaldo: Piers Morgan
😂😂
Messi is above Ronaldo in almost every important individual stat. Goals per game, assists per game, goal participation rate, goals outside the box, free kick goals, goals per shot, shots on target, dribble success rate/defenders dribbled passes per chance, average match rating, and has almost double man of the match awards than Ronaldo. It’s not even close on an individual performance.
I love Ronaldo, he has incredible footwork, insane power and some of the best goals I’ve ever seen, and impressive accolades, but Messi is the better player all around without question for me.
Here after Messi won the World Cup and made Piers Morgan look silly
What happened to Ronaldo at the World Cup? He was as bad for Portugal as he was at United. Will there be another interview pierce on why that manager benched him??
Its called age my friend. Happens to all athletes
@@jorgelugo9473 he wasn’t 37 for all the other world cups, he never scored in the knockout stages in any of the 5 World Cups he participated in. Doesn’t make a huge difference in the discussion but if Piers is gonna use the “only World Cup he’s turned up in” debate against Messi, then it needs to be mentioned
Did you watch any portugal games? Every time ronaldo got the ball he played well with passing and shots on target and his team lacked service for him
He missed the summer preseason training with the team, so his is not conditioned well to compete. On top of that there is fallout with the team and be lost a son. Both physically and mentally he is not ready. But don’t believe those haters who claims his time is up. If you watched his game with Ghana, dude was still leaping with 40 inches crazy verticals. His body is still in elite top condition better. He just needs time to regain the feel of playing on the field. But given the current media fallout he has with Manchester United and his high salary, I doubt there will be any top European league teams willing to take him. I hope CR7 he is willing to take a low profile for now and maybe voluntarily cut his salary in half or something in exchange for playing as key core player on some teams--that might save his career.
Because CR7 is just some Grumpy Old Man now 😂
I have watched them both for years and years and I really can't see how anyone can see ronaldo as better then messi . Messi sees passes and then makes passes that no other footballer can. His assists record is quite simply remarkable. If messi wasnt such a twam player he would have scored an extra 100 goals . Ronaldo for me is a great goalscorer mainly.
4:10 Messi won the world cup golden ball in 2014...the ignorance.
Well part of being a Ronaldo fanboy (or on his payroll like Morgan) is the need to just deny anything you don't want to hear.
Piers is being selective and arbitrary when he cited scoring records across multiple leagues as the factor that proves CR7 is the greater footballer. I could counter that in most all those records, CR7 was waiting for - nay, expecting - passes and assists to chalk up his numbers. I could counter with an appeal to assists+goals. I could counter with an appeal to how many opponents the footballer dribbled through (not just outrun) to culminate in goals. The list goes on. And in fact, the longer that list, the more complete the player and who would have the bagging rights then? Piers describes his take as 'forensic'. He needs to live among people who talk and live with solid statistics on a daily basis before he starts fantasising that his thinking is 'forensic' when his whole life is built only on mouthing off faster and louder than the other person.
"Forensic". LOL!
if messi joined pep in man city he would have destroyed premier league thats a fact..
Messi shutting the world down with his world cup
Mesi just lifted the World Cup for his country. From today that debate is over and everybody knows the answer to the question about who is the best ;)
Messi has always been better than Ronaldo lol, don't get me wrong prime Ronaldo was amazing but Messi is from a different planet. He can do anything, he can be a goal scorer or a playmaker. Ronaldo is just a goal scorer that stay in the box all game.
Ronaldo is a great striker - he is good at one aspect of the game. Messi is just as good a finisher but Ronaldo can't touch him when it comes to creation from midfield. Ronaldo is a technician - a great one - but Messi is a football artist, who can be influential from anywhere on the field.
LOL. Very selective about what he choices to acknowledge. The "Messi has only done it in one league" argument doesn't hold up at all when you think of how he's scored 27 goals in 35 games against English sides in Europe & that's only by playing the top sides from the PL, can you image the amount he'd score vs the others? People can't honestly be trying to say Messi needed to prove he could do it against the likes of Villa, Newcastle & Southampton. Give me a break. Piers owns himself when he says Ronaldo is two years older too because Messi's career goal to game ratio is far better than Ronaldo's anyway, he's played nearly 150 less games than Ronaldo & has only about 28 goals fewer but he also, with in mind having played nearly 150 games fewer, has well over 100 more assists. Messi's only played a small part of his career in the striker role too whilst Ronaldo played 90% of his career in it. Messi has now featured in two World Cup Finals, Ronaldo none. It's hilarious that Piers says Messi always played with great players around him too like that's a defence against Ronaldo as though Ronaldo didn't. LOL. The only time of his career Ronaldo didn't have world-class players all around him was at United in the last couple of years.
Great points. Some key aspects of footballing talents can be measured objectively. Dribbling, vision, assists, passing, goal-scoring efficiency, etc. In all of these Messi trumps CR7.
You make good points but your argument is a little flawed he played English teams in european competition where there was a distinct difference until recently what constituted a foul and how games were Reffed...Up till recently the English game was far more abrasive compared to how the European game had evolved...He would have done well but wouldn't have been quite as effective as he had been in Spain..Ronaldo figures in England were amazing but nowhere near what they were in Spain...We will never know if he could have put up physically with the odd reducer that still happened 10 plus years ago or the effect it would have had injury wise but his figures wouldn't have been close to what he achieved in Spain ...Neither Messi or Ronaldo have had to put with the punishment that Maradona had to withstand who for me is greatest player to touch a football
@@garymanders1273 Mate, go watch him absolutely destroy Arsenal singlehandedly & comeback. If you think Messi hasn't had to put up with a lot of tough tackles in his near 20 year career then you must've watched very little of him. He rarely gets injured either & just gets up, dusts himself off & gets on with it. Half the time players are scared to commit to trying to tackle him too because he usually leaves them in the dust, that's when he's not just holding them off like he did Gvardiol last night. I find all the arguments against Messi very weak. This player is insane, has done insane thinks all his career. Ridiculously good footballer.
@@NoirFan84true, valid point
@@garymanders1273 English teams were always ultra defensive against Barcelona. Parking the bus to infinity. Imagine if they ever tried to play their normal game, Messi would easily score 60 goals over that same 35 games. I’m an Arsenal fan and Messi humiliated my team to pieces but I can’t hate greatness.
Messi won the World Cup player of the tournament in 2014 so how can it be the first one he’s turned up too, also Argentina’s all time World Cup scorer
He only showed up in Group stages honestly in 2014
@@calm123 he only scored goals in the group stages *
Yeah, everyone knows what that was all about. Even Messi looked embarassed.
@@basedelon WTF is this "looked embarrassed" which you've repeated at least five times. Like a true sportsman Messi was more focused on winning the cup with his team than winning an individual award which is why he looked like this he didn't care about the award. You keep parading this nonsense because your hero has never even scored a goal in the WC knock outs, whereas Messi has been to two finals. And you seriously think it somehow elevates Ronaldo that some people might have given the Best Player award to Rodriguez and Messi might have only been second best?
Unfair judgement from a renown media personality whom we owe a wholesome respect. Cristiano didn't win the world cup and his team was lost to Atlantic lions, but Messi won it. Messi fought until the last moment, and proved to be a staunched captain.