In the Mind of Catwoman: A Case of Misplaced Identity

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • In this entry we’ll be taking a closer look at the mind of Catwoman/Selina Kyle from Batman Returns.
    Thanks for stopping by. If you have any thoughts or suggestions feel free to let me know below!
    #catwoman #batmanreturns #michellepfeiffer

Комментарии • 33

  • @theantone7476
    @theantone7476 Год назад +41

    30 years later Michelle Pfeifer is still the best Catwoman put to screen

  • @GregOrCreg
    @GregOrCreg Год назад +30

    Catwoman didn't want to kill The Ice Princess, but she *did* want to scare her, and apparently rough her up (i.e. knock her off a chair and whip her), which implies that she had some animosity towards the other woman, even if she didn't think she merited something as final as *murder*. Since Catwoman isn't a villain, but an anti-hero, I always think she must have had some rational, reasonable basis for her attitude, and, in fact, in an earlier screenplay, Catwoman actually knows The Penguin is going to kill the other woman, because she says "Who said this was a kidnapping?" when Batman tries to rescue the princess.

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 Год назад

      It feels a lot like internalized misogyny amongst women, and the way we see that play out across our wider society...?

  • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
    @anna_in_aotearoa3166 Год назад +10

    It always makes me giggle when movies like this & Die Hard are described as "Christmas movies" 😂 But I guess it's not wrong!

  • @lawrence5584
    @lawrence5584 11 месяцев назад +17

    Honestly, I always took her leaving the cat for Bruce as symbolically letting go of her submissive self. She's cut or killed all ties to her old personality, but the only thing that remains is Miss Kitty. She obviously can't kill the cat, so she lets it go, thereby severing her last link to her old self and completely embracing her new identity and personality.

    • @inthemindofavillain
      @inthemindofavillain  Год назад +3

      That’s a great way to look at it.

    • @remc0s
      @remc0s Год назад +4

      No.
      In the Batman '89 comic books (based on Sam Hamm's script for Tim Burton's unmade third Batman movie) it is revealed that Catwoman deliberately planted Miss Kitty at Wayne Manor at the end of Batman Returns to keep an eye on Bruce via a spy device in Miss Kitty's collar.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 5 месяцев назад

      @@remc0s Where did she get that kind of tech? XD
      Also, why did she need to keep an eye on Bruce?

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 Год назад +11

    Perfect analysis as always.

  • @voyagerone7487
    @voyagerone7487 7 месяцев назад +4

    You’re basically describing the plot.
    She’s a normal person who was wronged. The film makes a case for people who do bad things. She lost her innocence. Her old self is dead.

  • @shikishinobi
    @shikishinobi Месяц назад

    Catwoman has always been a fan favourite of mine. Her story always intrigues.
    I agree with a lot of what you have said, in that she starts off lonely, isolated and repressed, but at the same time it is also clear that she repressed herself in order to try and make herself likeable to others. She is quite the athlete and gymnast (which is evident in her Catwoman movements, racketball game, and in a deleted scene) but her note on letting her guy win is the only hint we really get beforehand. She is meek and quiet and awkward because if she lets out what she really thinks she would be disliked.
    When she snaps and begins trashing her apartment, she is rebelling against two things; her self image to this point, and sociable norms. She trashes all the cute and pretty things girls are stereotypically expected to have and she owns as a front to normality, and replaces them with her black outfit, whip and more pointed sign. Hell Here represents both what it was and what it now is in a darker context. No more pretty pink, this is now rough pink and black that will hurt you.
    Michelle Pfeiffer said that Catwoman was 4 different characters; the before character (meek), the in between character (apartment scene), the after character (confident Selina) and Catwoman. The movie was filmed so out of order she had a hard time keeping up with where the character was in her journey as it is so complex. However I think we can all agree she pulled it off wonderfully, to display a darker image of Batman that is still figuring itself out. Batman is too good, Penguin is too evil and she still seeks her own indents, which she finds once she is freed from Shreck. She sits in the middle as she dispenses justice like Batman, but kills like the Penguin.

  • @thejoker0123
    @thejoker0123 Год назад +11

    great work on Catwoman of 1992 *the year i was born* please cover Annie Wilkes (Misery), Amy Dune (Gone Girl), Jennifer Check (Jennifer's Body), and Mother Gothel (Tangled)

  • @Sel935
    @Sel935 11 месяцев назад +3

    amazing analysis👍

  • @craigjtan
    @craigjtan 2 месяца назад

    I just came across your channel and I'm so glad I did! Now I get to binge all of your other videos. Hoping you can do a video for Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy too!!!

  • @foxmccloud7055
    @foxmccloud7055 Год назад +8

    In the comics and the film Catwoman is more of an anti-hero than a villian.

    • @TheBatman39
      @TheBatman39 Год назад +1

      In the movie she is a straight up villain though

    • @milosbatmanvideos
      @milosbatmanvideos Год назад

      @@TheBatman39 she is pure evil in the movie? no

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheBatman39Meh. The only really bad thing she did was being complicit in the the death of Miss Gotham or whatever her title was. And that was something she didn't know Penguin was going to do.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 5 месяцев назад +1

      ..although she wasn't too broken over about it and didn't even attack Penguin for it.

  • @gabrielhall9099
    @gabrielhall9099 Год назад +8

    Can you do Mother Gothel from Disney's Tangled??

  • @1FanDuke
    @1FanDuke 9 месяцев назад +1

    Watching this as a kid….I remember thinking this must be what it means to go crazy. Lol

  • @john-conner410
    @john-conner410 Год назад +8

    Can you do the Governor from the Walking Dead.

  • @quintenvlecken4531
    @quintenvlecken4531 Год назад +7

    Can you please do ivar lothbrok from vikings? As he is probably the most compelling and intresting character in the show

  • @jacklucas9565
    @jacklucas9565 Год назад +1

    Nice video id like to see a video on Gemma and clay from son's of anarchy in the future

  • @Hun.1236
    @Hun.1236 Год назад +3

    do Uther Pendragon from merlin

  • @cjkalandek996
    @cjkalandek996 Год назад +2

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, *_PLEASE_* MAKE A VIDEO ON DAVY JONES FROM _PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN!!!_

  • @t.o.toonstubetwo.4138
    @t.o.toonstubetwo.4138 Год назад +3

    Can you do emperor Belos from the owl house

  • @SunSheepOfLight
    @SunSheepOfLight Год назад +3

    I guess things with Batman and Vicky Vale didn’t work out.

  • @user-qm8bc4bu1t
    @user-qm8bc4bu1t 7 месяцев назад +1

    It's bpd. I agree. 😊

  • @Aivottaja
    @Aivottaja 5 месяцев назад

    If you give 1992's Michelle Pfeiffer big glasses and tie her hair up, apparently she's now unattractive, because Hollywood.