They’re people that got theirs and don’t wan’t anyone else to get theirs, just old Boomers that want to ruin everyone else’s ability to boost the local economy and provide a product people want in addition to boosting tourism. Same people would complain wildly when their taxes go up or their local government converts their roads back to rock due to being broke.
I've only been a race fan a few years, but I've had this attitude since I was in college. My college needed another parking lot, the neighbors across the street complained that they didn't want to look at a parking lot. An extra $20,000 (1990 dollars) in landscaping had to be added to hide the parking lot from the neighbors. The school is currently getting bulldozed along with that parking lot .. I think the ONLY residents near the track that should have any complaint (and therefore any legal arguments) are those who've lived there since BEFORE the track was built. For everyone else, WTF did you think would happen?!??!? You moved near a racetrack!!?!! These are the same idiots who buy a cheaper house near an airport and complain about the sound of planes taking off and landing. There's a reason that house was not as expensive as a similar one in an area not on a flight path/by a racetrack.!!:!!
The 'I don't want that in my backyard' issue with property owners in the US is stupid. You get the same crap in Downtown districts that revitalized due to getting a nightlife, they build condos due to it being a trendy place, and then the condo owners butch about the noise.
They’ve tracked the complaints to literally one guy that hides behind vaguely named “coalitions” to sound like half of California is behind this. He’s been trying to shut the track down for decades.
Afaik the issue wasn’t the racetrack itself, it was that the overall amount of racing (particularly race days) went up from 21 to 23 with further increases possible, and they wanted that to be reigned in a bit. From my understanding shutting down the racetrack wasn’t something desired, just bringing it back prior usage levels.
it's funny because of how wrong it is, Indycars are known for how tough they are. Unlike F1, a tap with the front wing won't explode it. People have finished a race before with half a wing just dragging on the tarmac, just because of how structurally stable the body of the cars are.
Be honest. Had it not been for one man that is just from another planet the new rules of F1 would have done their job excellently. Ended Mercs dominance and if you think away Max, so basically you look at the fight for 2nd as if it was 1st. What an incredibly unpredictable seasons we have had. Going into a race weekend there are 8-9 contenders for 2nd place. Max really did spoil the party. The FIA had it right for once in their entire existence.
@@Dani-it5sy True, but you can't punish someone for being good also the 2022 regs created severe problems when it comes racing in the rain. If it rains, there's practically no racing anymore because visibility is nihil.
I'm enjoying indycar more and more. Every race is like they pulled random people off the street and told them. Ur driving a racing car on sunday.cancel ur AA meetings.
It’s just greed. They know they are paying less for the property because of the noise pollution, but figure it’s an easy pay day if they complain enough. In this case, private equity wants a cut of buying what’s currently public land and is connected to pushing the nimby cause.
Just want to say it was the first indy race I’ve attended, I saw more Stingrayrob shirts/jerseys than any of the Penske drivers. And throughout the race I traversed from: The corkscrew The top of the hill The entire walk by rainey curve The turn 4 grandstand The turn 3 exit wall And the grandstand along the main straight And by far, the corkscrew had the biggest wooops for srr when they were announcing the drivers pre race. King
I was also at the track. I think more people showed up this year compared to last year. There was def at least double the amount of srr jerseys as any other driver
@@leoallentoffI'm American and find it hard to watch Indy. Indy needs to offer us a subscription service similar to F1TV. I can watch the race on my schedule and not hope my DVR records the race. NBC keeps changing which network they're airing the race on making it harder to record. I have this same problem with F1, but with a subscription I've solved the problem.
To be honest with so many championship which is packed with races the highlights in any form are only way to watch some things. Our free time is limited too.
Man, Kyffin Simpson deserves enough disrespect for the stupid things he does do, there's no need to get at him for stuff that's not his fault. The spin that took out Rahal wasn't his fault, he was clipped by Canapino's front wing which deflated his tire and caused him to spin through no fault of his own. No surprise that Canapino turned terrorist there, considering Simpson is Caymanian and thus, British.
eh, he slowed down too much and went for the inside to block. Canapino didnt react quickly enough. he was penalized too. tough for rahal, can't catch a break
@@Oliviaault123 he's a monster touring car driver, won many championships. but he started in single seaters in his 30's, and is struggling. I am no fan of him but I thought with time he could be a new scott mclaughlin. probably not. ricardo juncos will support him as much as he can, it's his personal thing, arg driver in an argentinian's team. also there is the project to bring indycar to argentina and brazil, so having local drivers is a plus for the series. indy at de number 15 course in buenos aires would be incredible, it's a super fast track.
@@francomachiavello2070 well he should go back to what he is good at and that is not open wheel cars. also indycar is not going to go to argentina anytime soon.
@@cg_2k72 read Unfair Advantage by the late Mark Donohue. Penske's prototype Penske driver from yesteryear. After reading it you'll come to the conclusion that Barry Wanser did. Roger's rules
When Newgarden spun out, I've seen a Twitch chat celebrate something with nobody having a different opinion, which was a first. Also, the Rahal crash iirc was caused by Canapino cutting Simpson's tyre in the corner.
9:41 Simpson got hit in the LR tire from behind by Canapino and it punctured his tire. That's why he spun. Canapino's fans are claiming it was Simpson's fault because he was too slow in through the turn.
Legit watching them tear down the track I grew up watching after a couple decades of people bitching about the noise as neighborhoods developed all around the speedway. That and the owner dying and the kids not giving a shit. That didn't help.
The litigation over the track was settled pretty quickly once it was uncovered that it was essentially one person and the internet set about trying to find and doxx them. Wasn't even really an issue.
lol as an American for the noise complaints I have nothing else to say but “Monterey moment” They love to complain it’s like they have nothing better to do they even complain about electrical poles because they’d block views or smth lmao
Interesting fact, residents that live near Laguna Seca aren’t trying to shut the track down, it’s call Highway 68 Coalition… which is only one man, Michael Weaver.
the whole thing about the track was one person wanting the track out not all or even most of the residents near cared about the noise since it was barley able to be herd
The other funny thing about your Indycar FP1 into is that next year the series is going to be aired on Fox so your theme song will now be correct instead of ironic 😆
top effort will. one of your best takes for the year....! more penske illegal stuff...? i think scott mac was trying to take out romain to shuffle willy p up the order.... he miss timed it and nearly took out willy p. 😅
As someone who was at the track, it was about 70 degrees(21 C). It was hotter last time in September. Tire deg was higher since the new paving has seen more use in the last 9 months. It wasn’t the temperature
I was impressed that the commentary team only mentioned Bryan Herta and Zanardi once during the entire broadcast. That use to be their go to dead air filler.
Real answer: having the qualifying Start/Finish line right before the pit entrance is huge. That way drivers don't need a cooldown lap, they can immediately pit and get out of everyone else's way.
As a fan of IndyCar (and CART/ChampCar before that), I find the lack of enforcement of track limits appalling. Turn 6 and the T7 kink before the Corkscrew were abused more often during that race than Will abuses Grosjean in a season…
Another great report Will. "I've never had a GF." Ha! I had to keep walking away from watching this race. Simply something that I've never really liked about that track or its name. Likely just me though. Thanks!
someone else did the digging (can't remember the RUclipsr's name) and in fact it is actually just one bloke hiding behind an ORG label, he's not just targeting laguna but the black lagoon does seem to be his primary focus. Although many governing bodies have stood their ground well, the man has caused more permanent track shutdowns than Mike Hawthorn.
Race for the lead might have been more interesting if Herta didn't become a rolling road block. Like don't get me wrong, he did everything he needed to do, and the call by the team proved to work (...despite being rather questionable). But as a race fan, that was pretty frustrating.
I envy all of you that got to see the race live . NBC put a nail on the confin for me, I got stuck with NBC: passing Olympic qualifying (care?... No!) ; while USA-Channel: passing Nascar (I don't mind but prefer indycar)
@@CV19_YT Really a shame considering the FIA really dont actually care if $$$ is on the line. Hence all these 'street circuits' that are exponentially more dangerous than a old school track.
As an American, I think that the people that want Laguna Seca gone are absolute idiots.
I think race fans in general all agree.
They’re people that got theirs and don’t wan’t anyone else to get theirs, just old Boomers that want to ruin everyone else’s ability to boost the local economy and provide a product people want in addition to boosting tourism. Same people would complain wildly when their taxes go up or their local government converts their roads back to rock due to being broke.
I've only been a race fan a few years, but I've had this attitude since I was in college. My college needed another parking lot, the neighbors across the street complained that they didn't want to look at a parking lot. An extra $20,000 (1990 dollars) in landscaping had to be added to hide the parking lot from the neighbors. The school is currently getting bulldozed along with that parking lot ..
I think the ONLY residents near the track that should have any complaint (and therefore any legal arguments) are those who've lived there since BEFORE the track was built. For everyone else, WTF did you think would happen?!??!? You moved near a racetrack!!?!! These are the same idiots who buy a cheaper house near an airport and complain about the sound of planes taking off and landing. There's a reason that house was not as expensive as a similar one in an area not on a flight path/by a racetrack.!!:!!
Your personal story makes no sense. They were there before the parking lot?
@@robb5270 before the parking lot, yes. Before the school was built? No. The houses across the street were small starter houses with young families.
The 'I don't want that in my backyard' issue with property owners in the US is stupid. You get the same crap in Downtown districts that revitalized due to getting a nightlife, they build condos due to it being a trendy place, and then the condo owners butch about the noise.
They’ve tracked the complaints to literally one guy that hides behind vaguely named “coalitions” to sound like half of California is behind this. He’s been trying to shut the track down for decades.
Afaik the issue wasn’t the racetrack itself, it was that the overall amount of racing (particularly race days) went up from 21 to 23 with further increases possible, and they wanted that to be reigned in a bit. From my understanding shutting down the racetrack wasn’t something desired, just bringing it back prior usage levels.
Laguna Seca is owned by Monterey County in California, so it's not as simple as NIMBYs crying their eyes out.
Locals don't give a shit, it's one specific guy pushing it through some company... Noise doesn't carry that bad in the area...
In New Zealand Pukekohe raceway got shutdown for the same reason 😭
F1 - Carefully managed one team dominance to ensure zero fun.
Indy - Converting carbon fibre into shrapnel for your enjoyment.
Its more of a one driver dominance then one team dominance in F1 when we look at Perez.
Indy car is like a Forza online session.
it's funny because of how wrong it is, Indycars are known for how tough they are.
Unlike F1, a tap with the front wing won't explode it. People have finished a race before with half a wing just dragging on the tarmac, just because of how structurally stable the body of the cars are.
Be honest. Had it not been for one man that is just from another planet the new rules of F1 would have done their job excellently. Ended Mercs dominance and if you think away Max, so basically you look at the fight for 2nd as if it was 1st. What an incredibly unpredictable seasons we have had. Going into a race weekend there are 8-9 contenders for 2nd place. Max really did spoil the party. The FIA had it right for once in their entire existence.
@@Dani-it5sy True, but you can't punish someone for being good
also the 2022 regs created severe problems when it comes racing in the rain. If it rains, there's practically no racing anymore because visibility is nihil.
Surprised the Argentines haven’t found this channel yet
we have, we are here, lurking in the darkness boohahah
We have for a long time. It's just normal fans, not ill fans tho
We have and are coping
The normal Argie fans are here… The stupid ones. Well, Will is rude about them, the rest of us are rabid dogs with them.
hola
Sigel actually raced pretty impressively, but i really do want to see more of teddy porkchops. Also, go grosean, 4th in that team is pretty impressive
Being a long-time RLL fan taught me the meaning of pain and suffering. My reaction to graham's crash was simply "yeah, that checks out".
pain
his father in law did not have a good day either.
I'm enjoying indycar more and more. Every race is like they pulled random people off the street and told them. Ur driving a racing car on sunday.cancel ur AA meetings.
AA...😆😆😆😆
I spent the majority of my life thinking Indycar was from India for anyone who wanted to know
If I didn't know anything about it, that would make a lot of sense.
I thought the same about indie music, games, etc
Cool
More like from Indianapolis, Indiana lol
@@jrbship congratulations, captain obvious
9:44 That was not Kiffyn Simpson's fault. Canapino cut down one of his rear tires and got an avoidable contact penalty for his trouble.
i am now convinced that Friend Of The Show is the highest accolade in racing
Beautiful. I’m glad Indy allows you to use footage, unlike some european championships that suck and copyright strike everyone.
And we closed out Pride Month with the rainbow DHL car winning
Its so weird that people move next to a airport or race track and then complain
It’s just greed. They know they are paying less for the property because of the noise pollution, but figure it’s an easy pay day if they complain enough.
In this case, private equity wants a cut of buying what’s currently public land and is connected to pushing the nimby cause.
Last time I came this early my girlfriend cried :)
☠️
Probably because she needed her dummy
tf u smiling for
@@itsmrmilohiding tears
Just want to say it was the first indy race I’ve attended, I saw more Stingrayrob shirts/jerseys than any of the Penske drivers. And throughout the race I traversed from:
The corkscrew
The top of the hill
The entire walk by rainey curve
The turn 4 grandstand
The turn 3 exit wall
And the grandstand along the main straight
And by far, the corkscrew had the biggest wooops for srr when they were announcing the drivers pre race. King
I was also at the track. I think more people showed up this year compared to last year. There was def at least double the amount of srr jerseys as any other driver
Looks like Will’s promotion of Sting Ray is paying dividends!
this channel is the only reason I know what's happening in Indycar
You should watch it
This with f1
@@leoallentoffI'm American and find it hard to watch Indy. Indy needs to offer us a subscription service similar to F1TV. I can watch the race on my schedule and not hope my DVR records the race. NBC keeps changing which network they're airing the race on making it harder to record. I have this same problem with F1, but with a subscription I've solved the problem.
You're missing out on a whole lot of fun.
To be honest with so many championship which is packed with races the highlights in any form are only way to watch some things. Our free time is limited too.
Man, Kyffin Simpson deserves enough disrespect for the stupid things he does do, there's no need to get at him for stuff that's not his fault. The spin that took out Rahal wasn't his fault, he was clipped by Canapino's front wing which deflated his tire and caused him to spin through no fault of his own. No surprise that Canapino turned terrorist there, considering Simpson is Caymanian and thus, British.
eh, he slowed down too much and went for the inside to block. Canapino didnt react quickly enough. he was penalized too. tough for rahal, can't catch a break
yep canapino has never been all that good
@@Oliviaault123 he's a monster touring car driver, won many championships. but he started in single seaters in his 30's, and is struggling. I am no fan of him but I thought with time he could be a new scott mclaughlin. probably not.
ricardo juncos will support him as much as he can, it's his personal thing, arg driver in an argentinian's team. also there is the project to bring indycar to argentina and brazil, so having local drivers is a plus for the series. indy at de number 15 course in buenos aires would be incredible, it's a super fast track.
@@francomachiavello2070 well he should go back to what he is good at and that is not open wheel cars. also indycar is not going to go to argentina anytime soon.
You forgot Dixon‘s wall tap entering the pits
I'm genuinely happy for Romain this race. Kept himself out of trouble and nearly got on the podium too!
That Newgarden caution was so weird almost like his boss owns the series or something.🤔
All for Newgarden to sell harder than Norris 😅
Lol even Palou's engineer said it was the normal rules.
@@cg_2k72 read Unfair Advantage by the late Mark Donohue. Penske's prototype Penske driver from yesteryear. After reading it you'll come to the conclusion that Barry Wanser did. Roger's rules
@@cg_2k72I thought it was Rob Edwards on Colton Herta's radio that made that comment.
they always allow cars to pit if there is no contact and a local yellow is feasible
When Newgarden spun out, I've seen a Twitch chat celebrate something with nobody having a different opinion, which was a first.
Also, the Rahal crash iirc was caused by Canapino cutting Simpson's tyre in the corner.
Surprised not to hear any mention of Canapino's avoidable contact penalty with 2 laps to go which sent some Argentines into a frenzy as always 😅🤣
It's not the neighbours - apparently it's just one dude who keeps finding different ways to make this complaint
But supposedly the "settlement" of that lawsuit awarded them $0, and they are barred from suing again. :)
Laguna Seca, I have spent a frightening amount of time trying to master that corner in Gran Turismo. It still gives me nightmares.
Holy hell will already at 136k? Glad to see the work paying off.
With hard work and the Jesus car of Sting Ray Robb... anything is possible
Thanks man!
Nigel mansell and nelson piquet went to indy... 30 years later im still watching this shit
Sting Ray Robb basically won (he was ahead of power for a lap)
5:42 Our good old friend 'Poo' is back in the subtitles
Edit: 'Lard' back as well at 8:57
Also Canapino tagged Simpson which caused him to spin
9:41 Simpson got hit in the LR tire from behind by Canapino and it punctured his tire. That's why he spun.
Canapino's fans are claiming it was Simpson's fault because he was too slow in through the turn.
Loving the background music you can never go wrong with starwing/lylatwars in the background of a race
FP1Will put this lovely video together in the 6 hour down time we had between Armstrong's car coming to a stop and Newgarden getting to his pit box
herta: (sees the checkered flag in the distance.) His pit manager: "EASE UP MAN, YOU'VE ONLY GOT 21.3095% LEFT!"
Kyffin actually had a punctured tire. Canapino slashed it and then Kyffin just lost control.
Can you do 24h races like nurburgring, le mans and spa.
It’s one guy who complains about many things he’s set up pages and “agencies” of people when in fact it’s basically just him
I am American, and I completely agree with what you had to say about the people moving close to Leguna Seca.
The next race at Mid Ohio is the debut of the hybrid PU.
3:01 bro thinks he's Kyle Busch
He aint him
Santino will never a achieve a millimeter of what Kyle Busch has achieved in motorsport
Legit watching them tear down the track I grew up watching after a couple decades of people bitching about the noise as neighborhoods developed all around the speedway. That and the owner dying and the kids not giving a shit. That didn't help.
This channel is just as satisfying as a Hawk Tuah.
7:02 same bruh, for the past 18 years.
The litigation over the track was settled pretty quickly once it was uncovered that it was essentially one person and the internet set about trying to find and doxx them. Wasn't even really an issue.
People who move next to a race track and complain about noise are some of the most insufferable ones around.
I wasnt able to watch it because USA was streaming The Nascar race 😭
It was on CNBC.
Based MD fan
Getting rid of NBCSN hurt all Motorsports on NBC.
Other than Will, nbc motorsports RUclips channel has 10-15 minute race recaps usually within hours of the race. In case you miss the race.
Bill Oddie!!! 😂😂
I love this track. And ive been looking forward to this review! I'm gonna say thanks now and assume I will laugh. Here i go!
lol as an American for the noise complaints I have nothing else to say but “Monterey moment”
They love to complain it’s like they have nothing better to do they even complain about electrical poles because they’d block views or smth lmao
to be fair
it's apparently just one dude who through legal magic can claim that there's a lot of people complaining
Interesting fact, residents that live near Laguna Seca aren’t trying to shut the track down, it’s call Highway 68 Coalition… which is only one man, Michael Weaver.
I love the music you use. Last time was megaman 2. This time was KSP 😊 i feel at home watching these videos.
Glad you enjoy it!
"Stephen Hawking playing twister on Epstein Island". Pure Genius!
New viewer. I just stopped by to say I appreciate the humour and the Starfox music at the end. 😂
Thank goodness Nascar had a rain delay and the network didn't switch to the Indy race and we missed the first half of the Monterey race 😐
Sargeant catching strays 😭😂😂😂
the whole thing about the track was one person wanting the track out not all or even most of the residents near cared about the noise since it was barley able to be herd
The other funny thing about your Indycar FP1 into is that next year the series is going to be aired on Fox so your theme song will now be correct instead of ironic 😆
top effort will.
one of your best takes for the year....!
more penske illegal stuff...?
i think scott mac was trying to take out romain to shuffle willy p up the order....
he miss timed it and nearly took out willy p.
😅
"That video made me a lot of money" 😂
When the corneria theme comes on i know things are gonna get epic.
Kyffin had a puncture thanks to Canapino
I was there in person it was the best moment of my life!!😊
Laguna Seca FOREVER!
I know how hot it was over the weekend. Those tires didn't stand a chance.
As someone who was at the track, it was about 70 degrees(21 C). It was hotter last time in September. Tire deg was higher since the new paving has seen more use in the last 9 months. It wasn’t the temperature
You should do a 1 off review of NASCAR at New Hampshire. They actually raced an oval in the freaking rain lol.
The Faulklands dig by Will 💀
I was impressed that the commentary team only mentioned Bryan Herta and Zanardi once during the entire broadcast. That use to be their go to dead air filler.
Indy cars at Martinsville for 300 laps would keep Will busy and we would have our first one hour race recap. ❤
As the only Rasmussen fan on earth I felt violated before we even got 20 seconds in lmao
I'm surprised you didn't cover Dixon's pit entry incident
remember when Lundgaard won toronto last year, yep that did indeed happen at a point in the past
Alex Palou in the Homo Honda wins!
best creator just dropped
I gotta give it to Grosjean, jokes aside it was a good race for him
Careful with those stones in your class house Mr. My Country Has Been Dragging For Whining About The Mid 70’s
Mclaren should put sting ray robb in the #6 car
this is the series that’s more random than Charles Leclerc’s inchidents
They call it the Jesus Car because that's what everyone mutters when they see Sting Ray pulling out of the pits.
Can you do comedy review for the WEC series, especially Le Mans?
“Beached the Jesus car” 😂
disappointed we didnt get more canapino slander when he sliced kyffins tyre
Hey Will, is there anything in Indycar that you would like to see implemented in Formula 1??? Just curious. Thanks
Racing
@@FP1Will ROFLMAO!!!
@@FP1Will😂
Real answer: having the qualifying Start/Finish line right before the pit entrance is huge. That way drivers don't need a cooldown lap, they can immediately pit and get out of everyone else's way.
Oh jeez nobody wants logan in indycar... Keep him in F1 or send him to drive for uber
Let’s get into it 🤗
Love the star fox music that the end
As a fan of IndyCar (and CART/ChampCar before that), I find the lack of enforcement of track limits appalling. Turn 6 and the T7 kink before the Corkscrew were abused more often during that race than Will abuses Grosjean in a season…
Another great report Will. "I've never had a GF." Ha! I had to keep walking away from watching this race. Simply something that I've never really liked about that track or its name. Likely just me though. Thanks!
someone else did the digging (can't remember the RUclipsr's name) and in fact it is actually just one bloke hiding behind an ORG label, he's not just targeting laguna but the black lagoon does seem to be his primary focus. Although many governing bodies have stood their ground well, the man has caused more permanent track shutdowns than Mike Hawthorn.
Race for the lead might have been more interesting if Herta didn't become a rolling road block.
Like don't get me wrong, he did everything he needed to do, and the call by the team proved to work (...despite being rather questionable). But as a race fan, that was pretty frustrating.
Mid-Ohio will introduce Hybrid Energy to INDYCAR
9:43 "Simpson had his moment of brain failure"
in fairness, his tire got chopped on corner exit. wasn't his fault.
Pietro was close to a top 10 maybe 7/8ish if he didn't go off on the pit exit. The stop n go late in the race was the end
I'm just going to assume that mclaren tried to burn their illigal parts in the hospitality ovens and something went wrong/
I subscribed for the F1 Comedy Reviews but as F1 is fucking boring I enjoy your Indycar Comedy Reviews much more these days.
I envy all of you that got to see the race live . NBC put a nail on the confin for me, I got stuck with NBC: passing Olympic qualifying (care?... No!) ; while USA-Channel: passing Nascar (I don't mind but prefer indycar)
Would of loved that laguna seca in F1
not FIA Grade 1, and that would ruin the charm of Laguna Seca, id love to see it though, was a great race in person.
@@AmbientMike i know I wish it was a grade 1 circuit but keeps the same layout
@@CV19_YT Really a shame considering the FIA really dont actually care if $$$ is on the line. Hence all these 'street circuits' that are exponentially more dangerous than a old school track.
@@AmbientMike i do like jeddah because of that but it is a shame i hope one day they change the grade one rules a bit
What? Nothing on the Pikes Peak Mountain Race
Poor Graham, he looked so dejected after that crash
It was a bad weekend for the family. His Father in Law John Force had his funny car blow up in Virginia while going 300mph.
King Sting Ray 🤴
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At Least they aren't Continuously Driving a Lefthand Turn.....
For some reason I so want to see an F1 race at this track.
It would be chaos!
@@FP1Will Exactly!
not FIA Grade 1, and that would ruin the charm of Laguna Seca, id love to see it though, was a great race in person.
I enjoyed NASCAR’s 6 Hours of New Hampshire. NBC getting rid of NBCSN never ceases to be a mistake to me.