I have had a strong feeling that the BB54 is going to join my stable sometime in the future. Somehow that feeling gets stronger everyday. This might be the perfect daily wear tandem for my BB Pro. Btw, like you, I also track the accuracy of the watches I wear and the Pro has been giving me a solid 0.2-0.5 seconds average. These Tudor/Kenissi movements are great.
Yeah a BB54 BB Pro duo is a good one for sure they cover all the bases btwn themselves! Nice to hear more folks keep track of daily accuracy lol! But yeah my BB Pro was running about 1 second fast a day and I've never had any bad experiences with Tudor/kenissi movements so I'm all for them
Thanks for the update. Also a BB54 owner, just got mine in September. My AD have included the rubber strap with the purchase, incl an additional clasp! They did a special order, so I’m due to pick that up when it’s ready.
I love the comparison to the comfortable shoes, a phrase I've used before describing my Pelagos LHD. I've yet to see or try the BB54 but following your review I think it might have a similar sunburst dial of the Pelagos 39, very subtle and looks black most of the time. Manufacturers playing games with bracelets is nothing new, making small changes to stop us changing them is annoying but they want to increase revenue to persuade us to make another watch purchase. A shame as they could increase some revenue on after market sales. It's always great to hear your thoughts and many thanks for sharing.
Have your tried the rubber strap on the BB58 blue? Just to see how it looks. I’m thinking of ordering one with the Tfit obviously! Would love to see how that works!
I've had my BB54 for a few weeks now and wow its blown me away 😮stunning comfortable with rich history imo it's the best black bay without a doubt mines on the rubber strap which I prefer on a dive watch looks realy good beautiful timepiece 😊
I gonna be the ass here: crown diggin problems are only there, because people started to wear watches a tad on the loose side. Usually watches have been worn behind the wrist bone to be hidden under a cuff and only peak out when you want to read the time. wrist watches came after pocked watched and that's why it was used like this to not show others status with a watch. It just wasn't "gentleman-like".
The edges on the bracelet at the faux links are a bit rough for me, considering gently smoothing down. Apart from that perfect, even with a slightly larger than average wrist.
Yeah I like smoothly tapered bracelets as well and thankfully there are some 3rd party options to try out! And agreed I think this works great on a larger range of wrists than most people would think
I'm still amazed you have to order a second clasp to use their OEM rubber strap, but the question then is, does the rubber strap come with the OEM end-links for mating with the case, or do you have to swap those over?
Between the Seamaster Professional and the BB54, which one do you think has the more durable lume? Can you make a video for comparing these 2 nice watches?
Omega lume is brighter but I would say with the bb54 lume, it’s got staying power. It doesn’t glow bright and make you go wow like a Seiko but I could read my bb54 in the dark after 5 hours recently. But when I’m in light I never see it glow. With a Seiko and some omegas you can walk in the shade and see it glowing. You don’t get that with the Tudor but I would also say in fairness you don’t need that 😂
A woman who does reviews hereon YT put the 54's bracelet on the 58 by using the 58's female endlinks. That's the only viable, realistic way of doing it. Hopefully Tudor will offer clasps sold separately for the 58s, because while my 54 is my most beloved watch in existence, I want the 58 navy blue. Like others, I don't see them doing this.
Nice to hear that it's been confirmed, I always check midlink widths bc some great combos have come up bc of it. But you can check with your AD to see if they'll sell you the clasp alone bc the clasp for the rubber strap can be ordered separately but then it'll run into its own non compatibility issues. @Rodolfoguerra12 is absolutely right the Ranger bracelet and endlinks work perfectly on the BB58 so maybe it's more worth it for a different style of bracelet!
@@thewatchidiot I definitely like it better with no rivets and the oyster style. It’s one of my favorite watches in my collection. But the most comfortable bracelet I own is the one in the speedy sapphire sandwich 3861.
I want a different colour way. I’m not sure about colour of the bezel with the gilt dial on this watch. Tried it on today and it wore great, it’s so close but just wish colour was more exciting. I’m still tempted but I think if this was in the blue bb58 or a green colour I would have got it straight away.
The Tudor T-Fit "trickery" is not a problem. Bracelets should stay with their original watches. What is a problem is that it's 2023 and almost 2024, and Tudor still don't have T-Fit as standard across their entire Black Bay steel sports line-up. Of special note is the BB58 and BB GMT. What's a much greater problem is that the T-Fit only provides 9mm of OTF adjustment - not even a full cm, and yet still to this day do not include a pair of half-links. Rolex submariner does not need half-links to get a good fit because the glidelock on oyster bracelet provides I believe 10 slots so 9 gaps of 2mm each so 18mm of adjustment - double that of the shorter T-Fit clasp. An oyster link is almost 11mm long, so 9mm of adjustment doesn't cut it, but 18mm does. Half-links are still handy on a Rolex Submariner just for clasp centering, but not for length. Since T-Fit covers only about 90% of the length of one link, it means that (given even distribution of wrist sizes), 10% of people will still not be able to get the correct fit without half-links. If you think "whatever dude - I have T-Fit and it fits me fine" then congratulations about being in the 90%, but you're not everyone, and if you have 1,3 or 5 links removed, you would still benefit from half-links, as taking out 2 half-links is more centering for the clasp than taking out one odd link on one side of the clasp. Uncle Straps make half-links for the more popular Tudor Black Bay pieces, but they shouldn't have to. They should come as standard. Shame on you Tudor.
Thanks for going into detail about this. This was my issue with the BB58 and I could never enjoy it on the bracelet because I couldn't get a good fit. I thought the t fit on the BB54 would solve this but alas, it doesn't. However, adding one uncle Seiko half link has improved things, and I'm going to get a second one. Hopefully that fixes things. You're right though - it's ridiculous. All the effort they put into the tiniest details and yet the damn thing doesn't WEAR right.
I fit 2023 BB41 oyster bracelet into my bb58. No modification is required. Only need the original BB58 endlinks 😊 Need to note that the first link after endlink is almost 20mm width which is bit wider than the 58 bracelet. Not really noticeable and I found it super comfortable
@@Mega-zi7ys if your talking about a 1950s 6200s reference of a vintage sub then maybe but those watches sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars and can’t be used as tool watches anymore and must be babied. To me this is like getting a vintage Rolex or Tudor that you can actually beat up and use. I don’t care much for modern subs. The 14060m was the last decent reference and the last real good one was the 5513. I’ve owned multiple Rolex’s and sold them so that’s not the issue I’m just following the history and the historical prestige of the 54 is massive
The 58 was a bit small for me as it was, do feel the 54 got a lot of hype when the new 41 was the star of the show. Don't see buying a Tudor anytime soon, to many QC issies with them and had them persnally. If they sort it out and bring their fit and finish leave up to Omegas I might buy the right model with non vintage lume (like the GMT, Blue 58 and Pelagos). I like Tudor but I'd rather own other brands, nice watches regarless. Guess I'm just waiting for the right watch from them to come out.
@@michaelbishop9157 Tudors is far worst, Omegas makes near twice as many watches and reports are far less than Tudors. I have had and saw many Omegas and Tudors and can tell you first hand, Tudor has serious issues but as they are the sister brand to Rolex people don’t talk about them or let them away with it. Search RUclips for Omega and Tudor issues……. It will become clear.
Still can't get over the mismatched colour of the bezel and dial. Just looks bad to me. Drilled lugs would be nice, fits the historical look they are going for too.
So the best Tudor can do with the BB is make it smaller? Why not put an enamel dial? How about drilled lugs? How about a better finished case? How about a Sapphire bezel? For the asking price, you are getting mediocrity.
Much of the essence of the BB is down to the simplicity of the case, the aluminum bezel, and the overall refinement and feeling of solidity of each element. An enamel dial and sapphire bezel would technically be better but the watch would no longer feel like a BB. (Although I wouldn't mind drilled lugs lol!)
San Martin took the Tudor Ranger with its printed indices and matt dial, and came out with the SN0107, and you can get the SN0107-G4 iteration with gloss enamel dial (blue, black and green) and they also have applied indices. The green and black ones are gilt. The blue dial is almost black.. I have the blue one on a sailcloth strap, and the black one on the supplied oyster bracelet.
@@Jay_Bee1 It doesn't. That's why it's a mediocre product. It's not checking all the boxes. Better off with a Longines or Ball watch. They tick more boxes, have a worthy pedigree and for less price.
So funny ahah! I just shared my thoughts after 2 years with my BB58. I guess great minds think alike! Brilliant video, (I don't want to spam as I only speak Italian🥲)
I have had a strong feeling that the BB54 is going to join my stable sometime in the future. Somehow that feeling gets stronger everyday. This might be the perfect daily wear tandem for my BB Pro. Btw, like you, I also track the accuracy of the watches I wear and the Pro has been giving me a solid 0.2-0.5 seconds average. These Tudor/Kenissi movements are great.
Yeah a BB54 BB Pro duo is a good one for sure they cover all the bases btwn themselves! Nice to hear more folks keep track of daily accuracy lol! But yeah my BB Pro was running about 1 second fast a day and I've never had any bad experiences with Tudor/kenissi movements so I'm all for them
Do you still own the BB Pro ?
I have the Pelly and the 54. Absolutely love them both. Cheers man!
Thanks for the update. Also a BB54 owner, just got mine in September. My AD have included the rubber strap with the purchase, incl an additional clasp! They did a special order, so I’m due to pick that up when it’s ready.
how did you finesse that deal?
In love with my BB54 since last June!
Sounds like you're enjoying it!
I love the comparison to the comfortable shoes, a phrase I've used before describing my Pelagos LHD. I've yet to see or try the BB54 but following your review I think it might have a similar sunburst dial of the Pelagos 39, very subtle and looks black most of the time. Manufacturers playing games with bracelets is nothing new, making small changes to stop us changing them is annoying but they want to increase revenue to persuade us to make another watch purchase. A shame as they could increase some revenue on after market sales. It's always great to hear your thoughts and many thanks for sharing.
YES! it is the ultimate BlackBay!
Have your tried the rubber strap on the BB58 blue? Just to see how it looks. I’m thinking of ordering one with the Tfit obviously! Would love to see how that works!
I've had my BB54 for a few weeks now and wow its blown me away 😮stunning comfortable with rich history imo it's the best black bay without a doubt mines on the rubber strap which I prefer on a dive watch looks realy good beautiful timepiece 😊
I gonna be the ass here: crown diggin problems are only there, because people started to wear watches a tad on the loose side. Usually watches have been worn behind the wrist bone to be hidden under a cuff and only peak out when you want to read the time. wrist watches came after pocked watched and that's why it was used like this to not show others status with a watch. It just wasn't "gentleman-like".
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The edges on the bracelet at the faux links are a bit rough for me, considering gently smoothing down. Apart from that perfect, even with a slightly larger than average wrist.
Yeah I like smoothly tapered bracelets as well and thankfully there are some 3rd party options to try out! And agreed I think this works great on a larger range of wrists than most people would think
I’ve also had it on the wrist everyday for 6 months now
I'm still amazed you have to order a second clasp to use their OEM rubber strap, but the question then is, does the rubber strap come with the OEM end-links for mating with the case, or do you have to swap those over?
Tried it on at the AD and it feels a bit small for me. I think the 58 and Pelagos 39 is just right.
Would wearing a black bay 58 prevent you from taking an arrow to the knee do you think?
It's hard to fault the size of the BB58 and Pelagos 39!
Between the Seamaster Professional and the BB54, which one do you think has the more durable lume? Can you make a video for comparing these 2 nice watches?
Britt Pearce has a video comparing the BB58 and SM300 if I remember correctly.
Omega lume is brighter but I would say with the bb54 lume, it’s got staying power. It doesn’t glow bright and make you go wow like a Seiko but I could read my bb54 in the dark after 5 hours recently. But when I’m in light I never see it glow.
With a Seiko and some omegas you can walk in the shade and see it glowing. You don’t get that with the Tudor but I would also say in fairness you don’t need that 😂
And what about the lume? The same of the BB58? Long lasting?
It will last all night. If you charge it, it's even more vibrant
do you think they'll add a date to BB54?
No. They will ruin this vintage style by adding a date into it because we don’t need a date with this watch I think
After two years of buying watches, I won’t buy a bracelet without a Tfit on the fly. I work outdoors and need it
A woman who does reviews hereon YT put the 54's bracelet on the 58 by using the 58's female endlinks. That's the only viable, realistic way of doing it. Hopefully Tudor will offer clasps sold separately for the 58s, because while my 54 is my most beloved watch in existence, I want the 58 navy blue. Like others, I don't see them doing this.
Ranger bracelet. Fits 100% perfect and has a T-Fit clasp.
Nice to hear that it's been confirmed, I always check midlink widths bc some great combos have come up bc of it. But you can check with your AD to see if they'll sell you the clasp alone bc the clasp for the rubber strap can be ordered separately but then it'll run into its own non compatibility issues.
@Rodolfoguerra12 is absolutely right the Ranger bracelet and endlinks work perfectly on the BB58 so maybe it's more worth it for a different style of bracelet!
@@thewatchidiot I definitely like it better with no rivets and the oyster style. It’s one of my favorite watches in my collection. But the most comfortable bracelet I own is the one in the speedy sapphire sandwich 3861.
Anybody else waiting for a blue bb54?
I’ll immediately purchase 😃
Loool I'm sure many folks are just waiting for that day to come
@@thewatchidiot I'm rather waiting to see what the next fundamental surprise model from them will be rather than a color variant... :)
No
I want a different colour way. I’m not sure about colour of the bezel with the gilt dial on this watch. Tried it on today and it wore great, it’s so close but just wish colour was more exciting. I’m still tempted but I think if this was in the blue bb58 or a green colour I would have got it straight away.
The Tudor T-Fit "trickery" is not a problem. Bracelets should stay with their original watches. What is a problem is that it's 2023 and almost 2024, and Tudor still don't have T-Fit as standard across their entire Black Bay steel sports line-up. Of special note is the BB58 and BB GMT. What's a much greater problem is that the T-Fit only provides 9mm of OTF adjustment - not even a full cm, and yet still to this day do not include a pair of half-links. Rolex submariner does not need half-links to get a good fit because the glidelock on oyster bracelet provides I believe 10 slots so 9 gaps of 2mm each so 18mm of adjustment - double that of the shorter T-Fit clasp. An oyster link is almost 11mm long, so 9mm of adjustment doesn't cut it, but 18mm does. Half-links are still handy on a Rolex Submariner just for clasp centering, but not for length.
Since T-Fit covers only about 90% of the length of one link, it means that (given even distribution of wrist sizes), 10% of people will still not be able to get the correct fit without half-links. If you think "whatever dude - I have T-Fit and it fits me fine" then congratulations about being in the 90%, but you're not everyone, and if you have 1,3 or 5 links removed, you would still benefit from half-links, as taking out 2 half-links is more centering for the clasp than taking out one odd link on one side of the clasp.
Uncle Straps make half-links for the more popular Tudor Black Bay pieces, but they shouldn't have to. They should come as standard. Shame on you Tudor.
Thanks for going into detail about this. This was my issue with the BB58 and I could never enjoy it on the bracelet because I couldn't get a good fit.
I thought the t fit on the BB54 would solve this but alas, it doesn't. However, adding one uncle Seiko half link has improved things, and I'm going to get a second one. Hopefully that fixes things.
You're right though - it's ridiculous. All the effort they put into the tiniest details and yet the damn thing doesn't WEAR right.
I fit 2023 BB41 oyster bracelet into my bb58. No modification is required. Only need the original BB58 endlinks 😊 Need to note that the first link after endlink is almost 20mm width which is bit wider than the 58 bracelet. Not really noticeable and I found it super comfortable
For me this is the best modern Tudor
Yeah bec it's a Rolex vintage copy 😂
@@Mega-zi7ys exactly. They got the design right the first time so the closer they get to the real thing the better it will be
@@austinzizzi1142 ahhh nope buddy bec then it's a cheap copycat. It will always be a bug behind you saying why not a Rolex?
@@Mega-zi7ys if your talking about a 1950s 6200s reference of a vintage sub then maybe but those watches sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars and can’t be used as tool watches anymore and must be babied. To me this is like getting a vintage Rolex or Tudor that you can actually beat up and use. I don’t care much for modern subs. The 14060m was the last decent reference and the last real good one was the 5513. I’ve owned multiple Rolex’s and sold them so that’s not the issue I’m just following the history and the historical prestige of the 54 is massive
The 58 was a bit small for me as it was, do feel the 54 got a lot of hype when the new 41 was the star of the show. Don't see buying a Tudor anytime soon, to many QC issies with them and had them persnally. If they sort it out and bring their fit and finish leave up to Omegas I might buy the right model with non vintage lume (like the GMT, Blue 58 and Pelagos). I like Tudor but I'd rather own other brands, nice watches regarless. Guess I'm just waiting for the right watch from them to come out.
stay away from Omega if you are concerned about QC issues
@@michaelbishop9157 Tudors is far worst, Omegas makes near twice as many watches and reports are far less than Tudors. I have had and saw many Omegas and Tudors and can tell you first hand, Tudor has serious issues but as they are the sister brand to Rolex people don’t talk about them or let them away with it. Search RUclips for Omega and Tudor issues……. It will become clear.
Still can't get over the mismatched colour of the bezel and dial. Just looks bad to me.
Drilled lugs would be nice, fits the historical look they are going for too.
The only "downside" seems to be too specific to your niche need.
Hoping it looks better in person. Seems to lack some pop in its effort to look vintage.
Tudor please give me a BB54 in 38.5mm dial! 😊
Its nice and all, but idk it looks overrated because its a tudor
Ultimate copycat you mean
Dude has a gorilla arm
There is a way around the problem. Don’t buy a 54.
So the best Tudor can do with the BB is make it smaller? Why not put an enamel dial? How about drilled lugs? How about a better finished case? How about a Sapphire bezel? For the asking price, you are getting mediocrity.
How does drilled lugs and an enamel dial have to do with modern tudors, below 5k its pretty much ticking all the boxes
Much of the essence of the BB is down to the simplicity of the case, the aluminum bezel, and the overall refinement and feeling of solidity of each element.
An enamel dial and sapphire bezel would technically be better but the watch would no longer feel like a BB. (Although I wouldn't mind drilled lugs lol!)
San Martin took the Tudor Ranger with its printed indices and matt dial, and came out with the SN0107, and you can get the SN0107-G4 iteration with gloss enamel dial (blue, black and green) and they also have applied indices. The green and black ones are gilt. The blue dial is almost black.. I have the blue one on a sailcloth strap, and the black one on the supplied oyster bracelet.
its a horrible watch @@thegorn
@@Jay_Bee1 It doesn't. That's why it's a mediocre product. It's not checking all the boxes. Better off with a Longines or Ball watch. They tick more boxes, have a worthy pedigree and for less price.
So funny ahah! I just shared my thoughts after 2 years with my BB58. I guess great minds think alike! Brilliant video,
(I don't want to spam as I only speak Italian🥲)
Can’t wait to do a 1 year update on my BB54. Scratches and potential dents, dings and all.