Had the 58 for 3 years. Had a love hate relationship with it. Sold it and got the 54 a month later… 54 wins hands down. Hardly notice a size difference on wrist but the aesthetic changes are amazing.
Pretty much my experience word for word lol! I was really surprised at how subtle the size difference was considering how other 36-37mm divers wear and look. the great size plus the awesome bezel design in all silver makes for an incredible package. Glad to hear you're enjoying your BB54!
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Except if you take note of the mention that the design differences are better and what was desired. In that case it’s money well spent. :)
In all seriousness, congratulations, it's a beautiful watch. I own a 41mm BB and I'll never part with it. It's great that the trend is going smaller again however. Clearly a large percentage of people appreciate it. The success of the BB 58 proves it for sure.
I own the BB58 blue and I love it. The dimensions are absolutely perfect for my 6.75 in wrist. IMHO dive watches should be generally larger than non-bezel watches so I have no desire to trade out my 58 for the 54.
Not sure why everyone is bashing the size of the watch. Just because it's too small for some of you guys, doesnt mean it's not perfect for other guys with smaller wrists. All about how proportional it is to your own wrist size. Looks good on you sir!
Agreed. The protruding crown tube has always been the most annoying feature of the Black Bays for me. So much so that I've held off from buying one until now.
That's a smart way to look at the dimensions, I have a friend with a small wrist that's quite flat and he's able to wear bigger watches! Also great looking watch, the subtlety of the dial is well done and a nice change from standard black dials. Looking forward to seeing it on other straps!
Yeah I noticed the difference in the way watches wore on my wrist before in these shots but the effect was more intense with the BB54! They did a great job with the dial although before seeing it in person I was worried that the sunburst would be off like in the Pelagos 39 but all is well😁
Yes! Thank you for using wrist width instead of diameter. Way more useful. I love the blue BB58 and it’s the Tudor for me. But I’ll check out a BB54 when they put out a blue version.
Sure thing, wrist width should be the new standard especially for online photos and videos! The BB58 Blue is a fantastic watch no doubt about it and a 54 version would be really cool. I'm excited to see what else Tudor releases in the 54 line in the future
First time watching one of your videos. 👏 superb. Nice wrist shots giving a good idea of how it looks to people checking your wrist! Good points about the dial that no one has picked up. I will subscribe 👍
Awesome video and the most insightful review I’ve seen so far. I was able to get the watch (hard task!!) without trying it on first and I am worried about the size but your video here is making me feel more confident - hope it works for me. Thank you - I love your channel!!
I tried the BB54 on this past weekend (on rubber strap). It and that rubber strap are extremely comfortable. It doesn't look as small as one might expect for 37mm on my 7.25" wrist, though it does not look big. I thought it was "okay" in the full size mirror, but it definitely looks a bit small in the photos I took in the mirror. My friend said it looking small has to do with my "baseball mitt" size hand. I am a very tall guy, so I imagine if you're not a giant and also have say 7 inch or smaller wrists, check this one out in person.
Own an og Pelly42 and the 54 does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever. I can appreciate the sum of its parts on paper, but it felt like such an obvious consumer choice I couldn't get behind it. Curious to see how I feel when I get a chance to handle one in person.
Not surprised you like this given the endorsement on the 38mm Seiko solar watch. I really like it although have not tried one on. I would like to see that burgundy on black combo they did for the 58 on this. I really like the jubilee but I think for a Tudor this bracelet is perfect. Since the BB Chrono this is the second Tudor I have serious considered buying.
I tried the 54 on on holiday , and i have 7.5 wrists. I was shocked that it looked bigger in reality. Still a tad small for me, but i really liked the watch overall. Ive got the 41 mm bb watch and it is an heavy thing , but it is impressive on my wrist .
Nice one TWI, congratulations on the new arrival. I've not tried a BB54 (yet) as I have a feeling that my wallet will hate me (yet again). From the photos and videos that I have seen it looks great. I completely agree that if possible try a watch on the wrist and don't just go my the dimensions including height, diameter and lug to lug, they may spell a riot of negativity in comments and (anti) social media but without trying it on it's just speculation. This proved true when I tried and purchased the BB Pro among others. Looking at that dial finish it looks a bit like the Pelagos 39with the dark sunray. I had asked this question on another video and was told that it's not so I'll find out eventually when I see one. Would I get one? Err... not right now as my common sense valve has opened (it's been stuck for a few years) and I already have more dive watches than I need and I don't really want to prune my collection at this time. Many thanks for sharing.
Thanks as always Anthony! Yeah this is very much a try on before any judgement kind of watch, I had no idea what to expect of this one before seeing it. Same thing goes for our BB Pro for sure! Also yeah the sunburst finish is quite different on the BB54 when compared to the Pelagos 39 far less pronounced to the point that 90% of the time its just a matte black dial lol! My common sense valve is thankfully open although its quite erratic at times so hopefully I can get it fixed😂
I like the size of the 54, but for me, the silver bezel numerals and the lack of the red triangle make the design look less cohesive IMO. I just think that overall the BB58 design and details work better together. I also prefer the snowflake seconds hand, and matte dial. I’ll be waiting to get a blue BB54 though!
I agree. The BB58 with the bigger crown, and red triangle is hard to part with. Also having a 7.25in makes a 39mm the Goldilocks size. I would only sell my BB58 to get a METAS certified watch. Hopefully that’s the next update on the BB58.
That watch looks amazing! I was waiting to see if Tudor updates the BB58, wasn't expecting the 54 when it was released at W&W. Doesn't look too small on your wrist. I have the Pro and I'm wondering how much smaller does it feel compared to it. Do you still have yours or did you sell it? Hopefully Tudor releases an updated BB58, just give it all the goodies of that of the 54 or the new BB 41 heritage. Great video, keep them coming. 👍
Thank you so much! I wasnt expecting the BB54 either and before I tried one on for myself, I actually wasnt too sure about the watch. But it just felt fantastic on the wrist and the design choices they made worked really well. Visually the BB54 does look smaller than the BB Pro as expected (I actually have a side by side comparison of the two in the dimensions section!) But in terms of the overall feel, the BB54 wears considerably smaller due to it being so much thinner and so much lighter. That said, to me the BB Pro also wears extremely comfortably. I havent sold mine yet, it was for sale, then it wasnt for a while, and now its back up for sale lol. I still love it tho!
Great video as always TWI! Really enjoyed hearing your take on the 54 and you going into the finer points that make it a standout watch! Would love to get you hands on with our own 37mm diver, the Royalguard 200, and please feel free to reach out anytime! Thank you for the time and support and I hope to talk soon! Hope all is well on your end! All the best, Ben
Thank you for the review. Is the polished case a scratch magnet or does it stay fairly pristine with reasonable care? I notice I see a lot of Black Bays with scratches on the side of the case.
I like smaller watches like bb54, explorer 36, vc 222 etc I think watches that are 41,42 mms are just too big for many wrists and look weird, kinda toy-ish.. I am rocking a 36 mm explorer on my wrist and it looks so classy.. I think bb54 will make me feel somehow similar. Considering to buy one..
Man... its between this and the Pelagos 39 for me! I love the way the hands match the indices (homage to the Tudor Mil Subs and its a great look), and the light weight as well as how legible and damn cool it looks But this 54 is lovely too... tricky choice. Which would you go for? I would use it cycling, walking, weekend fun, as well as the office. So basically any occasion apart from maybe formal... but I don't do formal very often, if ever I do like smaller watches and normally love things like the OP36, vintage Omega etc... but I also rock my 5600 g shock most weekends, so the Pelagos may give me more of that hardcore tool experience
@@RaidenF8 ah I hope you get it soon. I'm completely over tudor now. Picked up an IWC Mark 16 for the same price and couldn't be happier. An absolutely stunning watch in person
Lovely review! You've mentioned the absence of crown tube, although my BB 54 has a hint of tube under the dcro2n, visible from the side, is yours same?
For me I still choose the BB58 in Gilt. The OG 58. I have a family heirloom. It is a Rolex ref 6538 big crown. Now I will never wear the 6538 in the wild. That being said, this is the reason I got the 58 back in 2018. It is as close as you will get to vintage even more so than the 54. Here is the thing. For me I wanted something that wore like the 6538 and the BB58 is it. The 6538 is 37.5-38mm X 15.2mm in thickness x 47mm lug to lug and the lug width is 20mm. The crown I believe is 8mm. The BB58 is 39mm x 11.9mm in thickness x 47mm lug to lug and the lugs are also 20mm in width. I tried the BB54 and it is a beautiful watch but does not wear like a vintage. It wears like something more like an explorer. Modern explorer which is great but for me I want something that feels like that 6538 and that is why I got the BB58. It is a keeper for me. The BB54 is a great piece but it really ain’t vintage. It’s on its own and no one would be wrong for owning it but to say it’s more vintage or refined is a stretch. A 5 digit sub is more vintage feeling than the 54. Lastly, if you are looking to purchase a BB I would wait until 2028. Reason being is that will be an anniversary and I am going out onto a hunch here and that is they will make changes to the 58. This is purely a guess but I think they will come out with a 38mm 58 with the same bezel gnarling as the 54, with the same gnarling as the 54 on the crown keeping it at 6.5mm or even make it 7mm without the crown tube. Also, they make make the dial glossy black like the sub. Just my guess but I feel this is the route they are going to take. Tudor is slowly dipping their feet in that water and are taking calculated risks. They will also have a T-Fit clasp for the 58.
It’s interesting how large watches came to be associated with masculinity by many people. It’s good to know your range and collect different sizes depending on the genre. Personally I’ve discovered that I prefer my watches on bracelets to be smaller, while watches on straps look good a bit larger imo.
There is a place for smaller watches, I like to wear smaller watches sometimes it all depends on the watch. Wrist width measurement is more meaningful. Enjoy your watch
beautiful piece but for a diver it is just too small I think.....I even found the BB58 a tad too small for a diver.......I love my 36 mm OP and datejust, for that style of watches the smaller size is perfect...........let´s see of it´s a keeper for you
Love the dimensions and changes they've made with this model. I have, and will keep, the BB58 black for sentimental reasons, so I will pass on this iteration of the BB54. But, what do you think Tudor does with this BB54 model? I can't imagine they will iterate the same way as the BB58? Where would you like to see it go next? If I've learned anything from Tudor, patience is key as we do know they will iterate with colors and refinements.
a definite improvement, but still has one fatal flaw, for me: snowflake hands.... I really like the look of the watch otherwise (that black and gilt dial is sexy), I just hate how that hour hand looks. For me it's a dealbreaker :/
Does the 54 have a matte dial? I always thought it was gloss, but there were some shots in this that made it look matte. I think you even mentioned matte at some point. Can someone confirm?
This is absolutely hilarious. The next comment I read right after this was a comment by a user named *Bobby California* which read : *Had the 58 for 3 years. Had a love hate relationship with it. Sold it and got a BB 54 a month later....* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
this video was a good realization of how ridiculous this has all become; time to take a pause of these reviews, be grateful for what I have, and actually go put more dings and scratches on my watch, because really, those guys using these in the 50s and 60s did a lot more with a lot less
The BB54 is a hype watch the BB58 is the better choice for most, specially on the secondary market. Save about $2000. I’ll be keeping my blue BB58 purchased used for $2500 .
I agree that the BB58 is going to be a better choice for more people but i wouldnt say that the BB54 is a hype watch, its just another size in the ever popular and ever growing Black Bay lineup. Oh wow I havent seen $2,500 for a BB58 before but sounds like you got a pretty incredible deal!
It is good thatTudor is making a ladies Black Bay now. It considering I feel like a watch like the Rolex Deepsea Sea Dweller is the right size dive watch for me, the BB54 is far too small for my wrist. Nice watch, just not for me. I hope that companies like Tudor, Omega and Rolex don’t discontinue making 42mm and above watches as men as a trend are getting bigger as are their wrists, so smaller watches that may well be a fashionable trend right now certainly don’t suit everyone…
Not sure characterizing this as a lady's watch quite works when the submariner started at 37mm! I do agree that there needs to be options for all wrists sizes out there including larger wrists and smaller wrists alike bc the more people can buy watches theyre comfortable with, the better for the hobby overall!
As sure as night follows day, the latest Tudor comes out…you buy it and then call it the greatest ever…until the next latest and greatest Tudor released. Rinse and repeat 😂😂😂
I have this love/hate relationship with the Black Bay line.. I want one but then I remember how basic and blah it is. No character at all, and a very common go to watch in the community. I was even considering the BB 58 GMT Rootbeer, as it has more style. But not these standard BBs. I'd rather get a Superocean, Zulu Time, Aquatimer, Aquis or even an Omega Seamaster 300m or the 300 Master heretiege model. Save up a bit more and go Glashutte Original Seaq. I didn't mention Seiko, because I have a bunch of them. Tudor hasn't won me over yet.
I had a rocky relationship with my BB58 blue it was a solid that that I respected bc it didnt have the extra spice that i like in watches. This one onthe other hand with the 37mm size and gilt dial, neither of which feature prominently in my collection, seems to have that missing x factor. I agree with all your choices tho theyre all really fantastic watches that i want in my collection, or in the SMP300's case, back in my collection. And like you I have too many seikos lol! Not sure if you've tried the Pelagos but thats easily my favorite Tudor/favorite watch of my collection bc theres nothing else out there that can replicate its experience!
@@thewatchidiot I appreciate the reply. I'll do further research. I have until next year, since I'm on a 2 watch per year limit and I already met my limit lol.
Although is marketed as a dive watch, little people would actually buy this to go do the very thing. This is a quintessential casual watch and one of the best at it.
Genuinely think you’ll sell this in a year - the brown sunray is just so faux - the love it’s got is alien to me, the Blue 58 and the Pro seem vintage done modern, this is just vintage done blah
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video! My sweet spot for watches is 38-40mm so this was too much of a departure and i love it since it feels different. But in the end who knows how long any of my watches will last in my collection lol!
looool idk about 28mm but 36/37mm is an established dive watch size especially historically speaking considering the submariner started off at 37mm. Good for ladies and 6'3" guys like me!😁
It looks ridiculous. Like you’ve grown out of your trousers. The hype over this thing is so unfounded. Throw it in that lake and go and get a watch that fits you. The BB Pro didn’t fit either
White fonts on bezel and then Gilt dial…sorry to say this but it just doesnt match and looks weird. I love your channel but Im kinda sick of youtubers/reviewers hyping up new watches when there are clearly some issues with the watch…you guys need to tell it like it is!
So your take on something as highly subjective as design is the only truth and everyone else is wrong, and even lying? Not sure that that's how it works...the watch world would be an awful place if everyone had the same taste
Glad to hear you're enjoying the channel! However I'm sad to hear that you don't think I'm telling it like it is despite me being the first to call out and pushing Tudor for tarnishing BB58 925s, calling Tudor out for specifically designing the BB Pro bracelet to not work on the BB58, calling out Tudor for loose endlinks in my BB58 Blue, and asking for half links. Tudor has problems just as Seiko does, and I call both of them out continuously bc I want them to be the best versions of themselves. But in the end the heart wants what the heart wants regardless of how popular or unpopular a watch release may be!
@@thewatchidiot fair enough, also another thing I dislike (imo) is that the clasp is very long for a small watch. Yes, its nice to have on the fly adjustment but its too long.
Had the 58 for 3 years. Had a love hate relationship with it. Sold it and got the 54 a month later… 54 wins hands down. Hardly notice a size difference on wrist but the aesthetic changes are amazing.
Pretty much my experience word for word lol! I was really surprised at how subtle the size difference was considering how other 36-37mm divers wear and look. the great size plus the awesome bezel design in all silver makes for an incredible package. Glad to hear you're enjoying your BB54!
Read the comment above yours 😂😂
If you hardly noticed the size difference then you wasted your money.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Except if you take note of the mention that the design differences are better and what was desired. In that case it’s money well spent. :)
Now you must trade it in for a submariner
In all seriousness, congratulations, it's a beautiful watch. I own a 41mm BB and I'll never part with it. It's great that the trend is going smaller again however. Clearly a large percentage of people appreciate it. The success of the BB 58 proves it for sure.
I own the BB58 blue and I love it. The dimensions are absolutely perfect for my 6.75 in wrist. IMHO dive watches should be generally larger than non-bezel watches so I have no desire to trade out my 58 for the 54.
Not sure why everyone is bashing the size of the watch. Just because it's too small for some of you guys, doesnt mean it's not perfect for other guys with smaller wrists. All about how proportional it is to your own wrist size. Looks good on you sir!
I love the fact that they got rid of the crown tube.
Agreed. The protruding crown tube has always been the most annoying feature of the Black Bays for me. So much so that I've held off from buying one until now.
Tudor 54 bellissimo!!!!
I never lived Tudor but I picked up a bb54 just a few weeks ago and totally love it
I got the 54 and grew to love it ! It’s my everyday waych
Great review. As a 39mm blue owner with identical wrist size (creepy), I really want this piece. I appreciate you reviewing it!
Awesome video dude. Can’t wait to get my 54, just waiting til I’ve moved on my 58 first!
The perfect one watch collection. A modern tudor submariner. Already a classic! Great review!
That's a smart way to look at the dimensions, I have a friend with a small wrist that's quite flat and he's able to wear bigger watches! Also great looking watch, the subtlety of the dial is well done and a nice change from standard black dials. Looking forward to seeing it on other straps!
Yeah I noticed the difference in the way watches wore on my wrist before in these shots but the effect was more intense with the BB54! They did a great job with the dial although before seeing it in person I was worried that the sunburst would be off like in the Pelagos 39 but all is well😁
Yes! Thank you for using wrist width instead of diameter. Way more useful.
I love the blue BB58 and it’s the Tudor for me. But I’ll check out a BB54 when they put out a blue version.
Sure thing, wrist width should be the new standard especially for online photos and videos! The BB58 Blue is a fantastic watch no doubt about it and a 54 version would be really cool. I'm excited to see what else Tudor releases in the 54 line in the future
I’m all for the wrist width (along with diameter) as a standard in watch reviews. Enjoy the BB54!
First time watching one of your videos. 👏 superb. Nice wrist shots giving a good idea of how it looks to people checking your wrist! Good points about the dial that no one has picked up. I will subscribe 👍
Awesome video and the most insightful review I’ve seen so far. I was able to get the watch (hard task!!) without trying it on first and I am worried about the size but your video here is making me feel more confident - hope it works for me. Thank you - I love your channel!!
I tried the BB54 on this past weekend (on rubber strap). It and that rubber strap are extremely comfortable. It doesn't look as small as one might expect for 37mm on my 7.25" wrist, though it does not look big. I thought it was "okay" in the full size mirror, but it definitely looks a bit small in the photos I took in the mirror. My friend said it looking small has to do with my "baseball mitt" size hand. I am a very tall guy, so I imagine if you're not a giant and also have say 7 inch or smaller wrists, check this one out in person.
Agree it’s a tremendous winner. The lugs make it wear much larger than 37. It wears like a much thinner bb58 which is only a good thing.
When the guilt dial is balanced right it becomes an asset
Own an og Pelly42 and the 54 does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever. I can appreciate the sum of its parts on paper, but it felt like such an obvious consumer choice I couldn't get behind it. Curious to see how I feel when I get a chance to handle one in person.
Not surprised you like this given the endorsement on the 38mm Seiko solar watch. I really like it although have not tried one on. I would like to see that burgundy on black combo they did for the 58 on this. I really like the jubilee but I think for a Tudor this bracelet is perfect. Since the BB Chrono this is the second Tudor I have serious considered buying.
I tried the 54 on on holiday , and i have 7.5 wrists. I was shocked that it looked bigger in reality. Still a tad small for me, but i really liked the watch overall. Ive got the 41 mm bb watch and it is an heavy thing , but it is impressive on my wrist .
For size depends on your wrist. Would be a nice size for the ladies.
Awesome video. Good part on the wrist width. Enjoy your new watch 😊
Thanks Barry! yeah wrist width should be the standard for all watch measurements!
Nice one TWI, congratulations on the new arrival. I've not tried a BB54 (yet) as I have a feeling that my wallet will hate me (yet again). From the photos and videos that I have seen it looks great. I completely agree that if possible try a watch on the wrist and don't just go my the dimensions including height, diameter and lug to lug, they may spell a riot of negativity in comments and (anti) social media but without trying it on it's just speculation. This proved true when I tried and purchased the BB Pro among others. Looking at that dial finish it looks a bit like the Pelagos 39with the dark sunray. I had asked this question on another video and was told that it's not so I'll find out eventually when I see one. Would I get one? Err... not right now as my common sense valve has opened (it's been stuck for a few years) and I already have more dive watches than I need and I don't really want to prune my collection at this time. Many thanks for sharing.
Thanks as always Anthony! Yeah this is very much a try on before any judgement kind of watch, I had no idea what to expect of this one before seeing it. Same thing goes for our BB Pro for sure! Also yeah the sunburst finish is quite different on the BB54 when compared to the Pelagos 39 far less pronounced to the point that 90% of the time its just a matte black dial lol! My common sense valve is thankfully open although its quite erratic at times so hopefully I can get it fixed😂
Super cool review. I can't wait to try this one on. It's on my short list for sure.
Thanks Craig! Its an awesome watch and id love to hear what you think of it after trying one on bc for me it was even better in the metal!
I like the size of the 54, but for me, the silver bezel numerals and the lack of the red triangle make the design look less cohesive IMO. I just think that overall the BB58 design and details work better together. I also prefer the snowflake seconds hand, and matte dial. I’ll be waiting to get a blue BB54 though!
Opposite for me, I think.
I agree. The BB58 with the bigger crown, and red triangle is hard to part with. Also having a 7.25in makes a 39mm the Goldilocks size. I would only sell my BB58 to get a METAS certified watch. Hopefully that’s the next update on the BB58.
Perfect size perfect looks.
Congratulations
Congratulations!
That watch looks amazing! I was waiting to see if Tudor updates the BB58, wasn't expecting the 54 when it was released at W&W. Doesn't look too small on your wrist. I have the Pro and I'm wondering how much smaller does it feel compared to it. Do you still have yours or did you sell it? Hopefully Tudor releases an updated BB58, just give it all the goodies of that of the 54 or the new BB 41 heritage. Great video, keep them coming. 👍
Thank you so much! I wasnt expecting the BB54 either and before I tried one on for myself, I actually wasnt too sure about the watch. But it just felt fantastic on the wrist and the design choices they made worked really well. Visually the BB54 does look smaller than the BB Pro as expected (I actually have a side by side comparison of the two in the dimensions section!) But in terms of the overall feel, the BB54 wears considerably smaller due to it being so much thinner and so much lighter. That said, to me the BB Pro also wears extremely comfortably. I havent sold mine yet, it was for sale, then it wasnt for a while, and now its back up for sale lol. I still love it tho!
Great video as always TWI! Really enjoyed hearing your take on the 54 and you going into the finer points that make it a standout watch! Would love to get you hands on with our own 37mm diver, the Royalguard 200, and please feel free to reach out anytime! Thank you for the time and support and I hope to talk soon! Hope all is well on your end!
All the best,
Ben
Fantastic watches 58 annd 54
Thank you for the review. Is the polished case a scratch magnet or does it stay fairly pristine with reasonable care? I notice I see a lot of Black Bays with scratches on the side of the case.
I like smaller watches like bb54, explorer 36, vc 222 etc
I think watches that are 41,42 mms are just too big for many wrists and look weird, kinda toy-ish.. I am rocking a 36 mm explorer on my wrist and it looks so classy.. I think bb54 will make me feel somehow similar. Considering to buy one..
Yes it’s the true vintage one that we’ve never gotten with all the correct details and none of the gimmick
Man... its between this and the Pelagos 39 for me! I love the way the hands match the indices (homage to the Tudor Mil Subs and its a great look), and the light weight as well as how legible and damn cool it looks
But this 54 is lovely too... tricky choice. Which would you go for?
I would use it cycling, walking, weekend fun, as well as the office. So basically any occasion apart from maybe formal... but I don't do formal very often, if ever
I do like smaller watches and normally love things like the OP36, vintage Omega etc... but I also rock my 5600 g shock most weekends, so the Pelagos may give me more of that hardcore tool experience
I can't even try this watch at my AD yet, they said they have not got even none yet.
@@RaidenF8 ah I hope you get it soon. I'm completely over tudor now. Picked up an IWC Mark 16 for the same price and couldn't be happier. An absolutely stunning watch in person
Lovely review! You've mentioned the absence of crown tube, although my BB 54 has a hint of tube under the dcro2n, visible from the side, is yours same?
For me I still choose the BB58 in Gilt. The OG 58. I have a family heirloom. It is a Rolex ref 6538 big crown. Now I will never wear the 6538 in the wild. That being said, this is the reason I got the 58 back in 2018. It is as close as you will get to vintage even more so than the 54.
Here is the thing. For me I wanted something that wore like the 6538 and the BB58 is it. The 6538 is 37.5-38mm X 15.2mm in thickness x 47mm lug to lug and the lug width is 20mm. The crown I believe is 8mm. The BB58 is 39mm x 11.9mm in thickness x 47mm lug to lug and the lugs are also 20mm in width.
I tried the BB54 and it is a beautiful watch but does not wear like a vintage. It wears like something more like an explorer. Modern explorer which is great but for me I want something that feels like that 6538 and that is why I got the BB58. It is a keeper for me.
The BB54 is a great piece but it really ain’t vintage. It’s on its own and no one would be wrong for owning it but to say it’s more vintage or refined is a stretch. A 5 digit sub is more vintage feeling than the 54.
Lastly, if you are looking to purchase a BB I would wait until 2028. Reason being is that will be an anniversary and I am going out onto a hunch here and that is they will make changes to the 58. This is purely a guess but I think they will come out with a 38mm 58 with the same bezel gnarling as the 54, with the same gnarling as the 54 on the crown keeping it at 6.5mm or even make it 7mm without the crown tube. Also, they make make the dial glossy black like the sub. Just my guess but I feel this is the route they are going to take. Tudor is slowly dipping their feet in that water and are taking calculated risks. They will also have a T-Fit clasp for the 58.
It’s interesting how large watches came to be associated with masculinity by many people. It’s good to know your range and collect different sizes depending on the genre. Personally I’ve discovered that I prefer my watches on bracelets to be smaller, while watches on straps look good a bit larger imo.
Solid review as always!
Honestly, for me, every time I see a BB54 or BB58 now I find myself wondering why am I not getting a Pelagos 39?
Thanks Marc! loool the Pelagos 39 is a spectacular watch and i find myself looking at it quite often so I dont blame you lol!
Man, you give so much money to your Tudor AD that he must treat you like a king. Or so I hope.
I believe you can swap the end link of the bb58 with the 54
There is a place for smaller watches, I like to wear smaller watches sometimes it all depends on the watch. Wrist width measurement is more meaningful. Enjoy your watch
Comparison of this and SNE569 please
Could they make the 58 a bit less blocky, less slab sided, and with the t fit clasp? That would be the perfect dive watch.
Thats a solid wishlist! I cant imagine they'll hold off on the TFIT clasp for much longer so it'll be interesting to see what they release next year
beautiful piece but for a diver it is just too small I think.....I even found the BB58 a tad too small for a diver.......I love my 36 mm OP and datejust, for that style of watches the smaller size is perfect...........let´s see of it´s a keeper for you
Love the dimensions and changes they've made with this model. I have, and will keep, the BB58 black for sentimental reasons, so I will pass on this iteration of the BB54. But, what do you think Tudor does with this BB54 model? I can't imagine they will iterate the same way as the BB58? Where would you like to see it go next? If I've learned anything from Tudor, patience is key as we do know they will iterate with colors and refinements.
I do not like the absence of minute markers on the bezel. It makes the bezel feel gimmicky, rather than purposeful
Think im gonna wait for next years 56!!
I'm more of a 57.5 kinda guy but the 56 should be great too😁
@@thewatchidiot lol
is it possible to mount the rubber strap of the 54 on the BB58?
a definite improvement, but still has one fatal flaw, for me: snowflake hands....
I really like the look of the watch otherwise (that black and gilt dial is sexy), I just hate how that hour hand looks. For me it's a dealbreaker :/
Does the 54 have a matte dial? I always thought it was gloss, but there were some shots in this that made it look matte. I think you even mentioned matte at some point. Can someone confirm?
The Ranger shares the BB58 case, so will they make a Ranger with the BB54 case....
ooooooooooooooooo that would be a very interesting watch for sure the ranger would suit this case perfectly! fingers crossed😁
You never really own a Black Bay; you keep it for 1-2 years and resell it as soon as Tudor releases a slightly less crappy version.
This is absolutely hilarious. The next comment I read right after this was a comment by a user named *Bobby California* which read :
*Had the 58 for 3 years. Had a love hate relationship with it. Sold it and got a BB 54 a month later....*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@blakeoneal4385 I rest my case.
😂
Haha honestly, this idea has crossed my mind a few times
this video was a good realization of how ridiculous this has all become; time to take a pause of these reviews, be grateful for what I have, and actually go put more dings and scratches on my watch, because really, those guys using these in the 50s and 60s did a lot more with a lot less
Am I the only one that hated the 58 's red triangle ?? The 54 is perfect now without that red triangle and the thinness..
i like
Is it just me, or is there something oddly wrong with the 54's lume pip... it's not in the middle of the triangle.
The BB54 is a hype watch the BB58 is the better choice for most, specially on the secondary market. Save about $2000. I’ll be keeping my blue BB58 purchased used for $2500 .
Keep telling yourself that.
I agree that the BB58 is going to be a better choice for more people but i wouldnt say that the BB54 is a hype watch, its just another size in the ever popular and ever growing Black Bay lineup. Oh wow I havent seen $2,500 for a BB58 before but sounds like you got a pretty incredible deal!
Not sure I've ever seen a BB58 for almost half price 🤔 😂 unless in poor condition....
@@chi1057 was not in the best condition thats for sure but cleaned up to like new.
Lol! There is no such thing as a Tudor “hype” watch. Get real
It is good thatTudor is making a ladies Black Bay now. It considering I feel like a watch like the Rolex Deepsea Sea Dweller is the right size dive watch for me, the BB54 is far too small for my wrist. Nice watch, just not for me. I hope that companies like Tudor, Omega and Rolex don’t discontinue making 42mm and above watches as men as a trend are getting bigger as are their wrists, so smaller watches that may well be a fashionable trend right now certainly don’t suit everyone…
Not sure characterizing this as a lady's watch quite works when the submariner started at 37mm! I do agree that there needs to be options for all wrists sizes out there including larger wrists and smaller wrists alike bc the more people can buy watches theyre comfortable with, the better for the hobby overall!
It does look small but there is nth wrong about that.
As sure as night follows day, the latest Tudor comes out…you buy it and then call it the greatest ever…until the next latest and greatest Tudor released.
Rinse and repeat 😂😂😂
I still want Tudor to put back the Mercedes hour hand. Like the originals.
Won’t happen
Tried one on today and I can tell you the BB54 is way too small for a 7.25 wrist. I will get one for the misses.
I have this love/hate relationship with the Black Bay line.. I want one but then I remember how basic and blah it is. No character at all, and a very common go to watch in the community. I was even considering the BB 58 GMT Rootbeer, as it has more style. But not these standard BBs. I'd rather get a Superocean, Zulu Time, Aquatimer, Aquis or even an Omega Seamaster 300m or the 300 Master heretiege model. Save up a bit more and go Glashutte Original Seaq. I didn't mention Seiko, because I have a bunch of them. Tudor hasn't won me over yet.
I had a rocky relationship with my BB58 blue it was a solid that that I respected bc it didnt have the extra spice that i like in watches. This one onthe other hand with the 37mm size and gilt dial, neither of which feature prominently in my collection, seems to have that missing x factor.
I agree with all your choices tho theyre all really fantastic watches that i want in my collection, or in the SMP300's case, back in my collection. And like you I have too many seikos lol! Not sure if you've tried the Pelagos but thats easily my favorite Tudor/favorite watch of my collection bc theres nothing else out there that can replicate its experience!
@@thewatchidiot I appreciate the reply. I'll do further research. I have until next year, since I'm on a 2 watch per year limit and I already met my limit lol.
Honestly too small for dive watch , I prefer 58
The 58 is a really great size no doubt about it, the 54 is a nice change of pace for me tho!
Although is marketed as a dive watch, little people would actually buy this to go do the very thing. This is a quintessential casual watch and one of the best at it.
@@christianjimenez2551 no
Nice watch but not my style overall. How the bezel sounds isn't A selling point for me. Personally I'd prefer A date and larger so maybe the pelagus.
The brain pretty much gets adjusted after a day or so until you take it off and put another watch for your brain to adapt to again.
BB58 looks better on your wrist. Nice video though
Genuinely think you’ll sell this in a year - the brown sunray is just so faux - the love it’s got is alien to me, the Blue 58 and the Pro seem vintage done modern, this is just vintage done blah
Looks like I borrowed my wife's watch
Well then your wife has great taste in watches!
Too small for you bro. This will not stay in your collection very long.
Good review though .
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video! My sweet spot for watches is 38-40mm so this was too much of a departure and i love it since it feels different. But in the end who knows how long any of my watches will last in my collection lol!
Not so nice on your wrist but tastes differ :)
the 54 a bit plain IMHO. i love the 58 for the red triangle and snowflake seconds hand. it's totally authentic to tudor.
I’m not a fan of large watches, but this just looks awkwardly small on your wrist.
Whats next a 28mm case?? This trend is getting out of hand. Good for the ladies though I suppose.
looool idk about 28mm but 36/37mm is an established dive watch size especially historically speaking considering the submariner started off at 37mm. Good for ladies and 6'3" guys like me!😁
28 inches would suit a very large lady, I suppose.
@@mikeuk4130🤣 Canada converted to metric in the 70s and I'm still struggling 🤣🤣
@@bogrot69 I know what you mean. We converted to decimal money in 1971 and look at us now - it's all gone!
@@mikeuk4130 😅
Is your nose perpetually congested? I notice it sounds like not a lot of airflow gets through. Might have deviated septum like me.
It looks tiny! It’s a dive watch for women. Not big burly men.
It looks ridiculous. Like you’ve grown out of your trousers. The hype over this thing is so unfounded. Throw it in that lake and go and get a watch that fits you. The BB Pro didn’t fit either
too small for a guy with decent wrists .. its a womans diver
White fonts on bezel and then Gilt dial…sorry to say this but it just doesnt match and looks weird. I love your channel but Im kinda sick of youtubers/reviewers hyping up new watches when there are clearly some issues with the watch…you guys need to tell it like it is!
So your take on something as highly subjective as design is the only truth and everyone else is wrong, and even lying? Not sure that that's how it works...the watch world would be an awful place if everyone had the same taste
@@edshamaham5719 right everything is subjective but all youtubers hype every new release…its facts
Glad to hear you're enjoying the channel! However I'm sad to hear that you don't think I'm telling it like it is despite me being the first to call out and pushing Tudor for tarnishing BB58 925s, calling Tudor out for specifically designing the BB Pro bracelet to not work on the BB58, calling out Tudor for loose endlinks in my BB58 Blue, and asking for half links.
Tudor has problems just as Seiko does, and I call both of them out continuously bc I want them to be the best versions of themselves. But in the end the heart wants what the heart wants regardless of how popular or unpopular a watch release may be!
@@thewatchidiot fair enough, also another thing I dislike (imo) is that the clasp is very long for a small watch. Yes, its nice to have on the fly adjustment but its too long.
So many watches. Another boring tudor?