Ye Are Gods! What Did Jesus Mean? John
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Are we gods? Didn't Jesus say "ye are gods"? This view is pushed by heretics like Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyer and Steven Furtick. In this short video I take a closer look at the words of Jesus in John 10:34 and examine the true meaning behind the text. The little god heresy is blasphemy and completely unbiblical. When the church allows uneducated men like Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland to have so much influence then it ends up being filled with false teaching and blasphemy. I have also created another video where I expose Steven Furtick for claiming to be like God. In that video I discuss the true meaning of Genesis when it says we are made in the image of God. Check that video out.
Pretty much every bible commentary and study bible will agree with my interpretation of the Bible on this topic and subject. Therefore, the fact that many professing Christians believe differently is very disturbing. It means that people are not studying the Bible. They are going to churches and listening to pastors and teachers in the Christian world who do not read the Bible or care about the true meaning of the text. Heresy abounds and its time that Christians begin to expose heresy and mark false teachers.
Thank you. This is a very important topic. It's continually misconstrued by false teachers and false prophets.
And we don't want to misconstrue this. The evil one would love us to do so.
Thank you Brother, This really makes this clear and puts this blasphemy to rest. Love from Jamestown CA
You are very welcome
Hebrews says we are a royal priesthood in the order of Melchisideck. Not gods. That verse always spoke volumes.
Absolutely!
If thats true then why even read the new testament or old or kjv? It says in the kjv that Jesus called us gods. You know how many preachers swear by the kjv?
@@thefogisgone3662 what verse is that please.
@@scrapingrama1 psalms 82:6
@@thefogisgone3662 could you prove to me other then scripture what God stuff you are able to do then.
Thank you so much brother for this refresher, I didn't remember this teaching anymore.
Listening in my car; it was also nice to hear pages flipping instead of clicking.
I agree with you. It’s so damaging when preachers teach their congregation that they are gods! Search the scriptures and see what God is really saying!!
He is correct except for the fact that the connection Jesus was making with those human judges and himself was to confound them from the accusation that he was equal to God; . Translations that say "for you although a man make yourself God" are wrong because theos there has, as in John 1:1 no definite article (the)before it. thus should have the indefinite article (a) before it , to read "make yourself a god. This would agree with the human judges being referred to as gods. The reason the human judges were called that is because the first meaning is that word is of being a mighty or powerful one which is what judges were over the common people. Likewise Jesus as the son of God likewise had power over the people whilst not being God. At John 8:40 Jesus called himself a"man".
So did Paul at Romans 3:15 and 1 Tim 2:5.
Koine Greek did not have the indefinit article (a) Thus one properly should be inserted. That went for any noun. If I said there is a door It would in K Greek be "there is door' If I said there is the door you would translate it as is.
@@ralphgoreham3516 Jesus called Himself God in John 8:58.
@@shadowlands8490 No he did not. (1) Exodus 3:14 is wrongly transalated
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Ehyeh asher ehyeh is correctly transalated I will be what I will be, or I will become what I will become. Ehyeh comes from the verb Hayah meaning to be or become. Nowhere in all the hebrew Bible is God called "I am". moreover the Hebrew for I am is ani. An interlinear for example at Lev 19, 20 times says "Ani Yahweh (strongs) = I am Yahweh. Gods name in Hebrew might be Yehowah (English Jehovah.) Ego eimi should have been translated past tense I existed, or I was, or I have been . Context was not about I.D. it was about TIME Before Abraham I existed. Jesus never called himself I am and never anywhere else do you find ego eimi. You are being lied to by false teachers and poor translation.
Google "Past tense translations of ego eimi"
Amen! Brother... God bless you! Stay firm in the Lord Jesus!
Thanks mate!
My dear brother. God bless you!
People are becoming too presumptuous with the most high God! Yes we are to come boldly to the throne of God our Father, but we are to come HUMBLY! Isaiah 42:8 says that YAHWEH WILL SHARE HIS GLORY WITH NO MAN!! PERIOD!
We need to KNOW OUR PLACE!
LUCIFER HAD THE SAME ATTITUDE AS THESE PRESUMPTUOUS PREACHERS AND LOOK WHERE IT LANDED HIM!
@@iThinkBiblically Please pray for me brother to be strong and courageous.
@@erickbanga1723 Sure thing
Thanks for helping me to delve deeper into the word of God . Little by little I'm gaining more insight into what some of the key words , like 'gods' , means in passages that are often misused .
People said that they are "Jewish," but the real jews are Ethiopians... therefore europeans are "LIKE JEWS"
God bless you man! Very Important to know the word in this very corrupt generation.
Thanks Hank!
I first wanted to say I agree with 99% of what you teach. Wanted to share a thought. Michael Heisner is a Bible scholar who teaches Psalm 82:6 is referring to the divine council of God and not mortal men, in 82:7 "However, you will die like humans..." If they were just human rulers that would be a nonsensical statement you will die like men.
Jesus said with man, this is impossible but with god, anything is possible. He was teaching men when he said that. Being man and being god is a state of mind.
Some of the best teaching I have heard on these passages. Thanks for posting. I would be interested in your commentary on the phrase that follows in Psalm 82:6. God bless.
I listened to our local Christian Radio station in my country where the Pastor also told the congregation that he teaches his children that they are Royal! yes we all are whom are children of God, but not on this earthly realm, only in the Heaven's. Doing so instills pride, a feeling of being better than the rest. for Jesus was of royal blood, but came to earth as a humble man, not dressed with expensive silky cloths and gold and silver.
we should therefore only trust the Holy Spirit to translate scripture and not man, because it can be easily taken out of context, which then lead many deceived!!
Not trying to start a spiritual food fight, But I respectfully disagree! 1st Peter 2:9 is not speaking of the heavenly realm, but the here and now. The reason why one may believe that embracing the Royal belief is akin to pride, is because they define it according to how the world portrays it. Obviously when we see a Queen or King, we see the external aspects of them IE: Royal Robes crowns and all the earthly regalia that's portrayed and exhibited. The scripture in 2nd Peter is speaking in terms of our character. Biblical Royalty Transends the outward appearances. But more importantly he not only identifies our character but out position. And that's the position of Priest or Priesthood! And the purpose of this is to show his goodness which brought us out of darkness into his marvelous light! Kind'a hard to show that if you don't believe how God see's you!
Excellent explanation. I like seeing the preparedness of those who dobthese videos. I apologize for thinking to throw a curve ball but I wanted to see how studied you were. God bless your work. I study those that preach and pay close attention to words spoken, keep up with the videos.
No worries!
Good work brother. Much needed today
Thanks for the encouragement brother!
You explained this pretty well . Jesus is bringing a charge against these Jews who are accusing him of blasphemy. He is essentially calling them unjust judges because they are accusing him of blasphemy yet he is doing the work of his father. Yet they won't bringing accusation of blasphemy against the psalmist who is calling these wicked judges gods . The psalmist is inspired to call them gods because they have been given authority by God to judge and they are abusing this authority.
Thank you brother for the great job you are doing in contending for the gospel. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks bro :)
No we are not gods
Amen!
So was David blaspheming when he said that?
We are god , but we are not first and last alpha and Omega
Great detailed interpretation. I understand that many in the evangelical community may take this "god" term or description out of context and it has created a lot of unnecessary confusion, But what I believe is being misunderstood, is that we are NOT gods in terms of deity but rather, we (believers) have AUTHORITY in Jesus name to execute the commands he has given us prior to his being taken back to heaven. I mean, common sense would dictate if a person (believer or otherwise) attempts to act as if they were DIETY, then God would gladly step aside and just say: "HAVE AT IT"! And they'll find out real quick how deified they really are!
Thanks buddy. I am currently in a conversation with a JW on these particular verses and your explanation came in very handy.
Thank you my brother for this teaching God bless you 👍👍
You're welcome my friend :)
Thanks for the great explanation. I included a link to it in an article on my Christian Answers for the New Age website.
This is really very clear. It freaked me out when Furtick said he is God
You are A Chosen One and the way you deciphered this word about the most high saying ye are gods referring to the one who gives answers to the sheep. the gods are the men who were to represent the most high. but they arent divine like u are because they rejected the truth yet the divine masculine feminine flows through you because you are representing the truth of the most high authority amen. I said masculine feminine bcz you come from the most high through a woman and without woman the most high created with his hand you wouldn't be here to represent the most high. Thank you for being brutally honest and OBEDIENT to the most high which got me out ofa dark place i didn't know i was in. Gracefully yours
Earth Angel energy
I receive this message. Thank you Jesus so much for this clarity through this gentleman. ❤
@iThinkBiblically This is an excellent explanation of what the Lord said and meant! ty! So many new agers turning it into something its not.
This word means this..this word means that
Thank you so much for your videos! They are really helping me to understand years and years of false teaching!!
Finally, after years was convinced and made sense by your excellent expository which truly is Spirit guided.
I Ask God What Does It Mean?
*God Said, It Means We Are Eternal As Him.
Keep up the good work! And stay humble!
Thank you! Will do!
Just been trying to chase up who you are! I thpught I recognised you!
Reading Psalm 82 in light of the principles presented in Romans 13 is also very helpful in terms of identifying judges and authorities as administers of justice.
I am shocked by how people are ignoring the Creator/creature distinction so clearly presented in scripture to try and say that we are gods in the supernatural sense. I think Heiser's influence on conservative thought has been extremely unhelpful and even harmful to the church body at large. Great video!
Everyone on here, don’t forget to remember that this is one man’s opinion out of BILLIONS of people. Just as I have my own personal opinion.
Don’t let one’s interpretation of a verse dictate YOUR beliefs! (Most beliefs from these so called “interpreters” are limiting beliefs that keep you down in a “im a wretched sinner loser! It’s Satans fault!” Mindset
Today, choose this day whom you will serve.
The great I Am. Or the god that other people portray?
Big generalization, think for yourself, be rigorous, don’t be deceived, peace
Have you ever seen this by Micheal Heiser?
Well explained bro, very clear and easy to understand. God bless!
Very good video. I have been researching this some due to an acquaintance who follows far east religions and uses “you are gods” to promote his beliefs. However, I tend to lean towards the Michael Heisner and John Piper views on Psalm 82.
If you want a more thorough explanation you can check out Michael Heiser's indepth explanation of this.
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@2:01 as you read Psalm 82 in its entirety the passage actually begins (v. 2) with God's rebuke against the judges which are later refered to as gods in (v. 6 ) . So this whole Psalm is pretty about rebuke and not man's exaltation ... l would say ironically enough Jesus is actually comparing the Pharisees to those judges and using this Psalm to rebuke them...
No, the word "Elohim" cannot be translated to "judges", there is already a word in Hebrew which means "judges", which is "shofetim". So what's the point for translating "Elohim" into "judges"? They simply fail to comprehend the phrase "ye are gods", and they refuse to accept the idea that "the sons of the Most High" are gods.
Exactly'!
man has become like Us knowing good AND evil
Don't understand why people keep saying this. God can speak things into existing, can we? We can't. Can we make man from mud and blow our breath into them and they will come alive? If we were God why did we sin? Why this nonsense? It is not even worth entertaining this type of claim. Well explained though. We are just the vessels not God.
Amen! Great comment. Put's it all in perspective. Its mind boggling but they believe and trust the celebrity preacher more then they bother to read their bible.
My Brother please Can you talk about the topic people say when they pray "I Speak life" i Speak Jesus?
BRO I WAS REALLY LOOSIN MY FAITH U HELPED ME
Why were you losing your faith bro?
Because it's hard text. Mee to I couldn't wrap my mind about this. No polish priest explain it enough. Thanks I know English
Excellent video. I fully agree. That piece of scripture is like honey to the ears of men who loves themselves. Kenneth copeland, benny hinn they all made that claim and look at their faces while saying those words, and don't try to reason with them or their followers, because wait for it, they are gods! Who are you to sin against them by questioning them? God please help us.
If only they got a simple study bible or commentary! Its so simple I didn't want to do a video on it!
@@iThinkBiblically but bro I was enlightened by it... It is a blessing from God! There are many fools and ignorant ones who needed things like these...
🤣 i can only imagine. But you did well explaining it. I mean if we realize the wretched state we were saved from, the last thing on our minds are being gods. But i guess some people skipped that part.
This is definitely the meat of the word and not the milk only, however your interpretation is wrong. Psalm 82 is a criminal trial, in heaven, of the lessor created gods. Psalm 82 starts with Elohim [the pre-Incarnate Jesus Christ] has taken his place in the Divine Council, in the midst of the elohim [lessor created gods] He holds judgement.
The Indictment; 'how long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked'.
The Law; 'Give justice to the weak and the fatherless, maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy, deliver them form the hand of the wicked'.
Judgement, 'I said, your are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince'. ESV
"We are all gods" in the context that we are all "God's Children"... but due to our SINS we lost our GODLINESS... that is why we need SAVING from Christ Jesus... logically speaking, if we are all truly Gods, why do we need saving for"... why need Christ Jesus for?... Does God need saving?...
Analogy... "We (humans) are all ANIMALS" in the context that Humans have some of the characteristics of Animals, like INSTINCT, desire to PROCREATE, to care for their OFFSPRINGS, to fight for SURVIVAL, ETC....but humans are more than just ANIMALS for we have SPIRIT, CONSCIENCE, ABILITY TO REASON, INVENT, CURE, FREEWILL, etc... the same analogy... I hope you get my point.
Very well done my friend!
Thank you! Cheers!
So is the concept of "Gods" a translation issue? Elohim has multiple meanings and can also be for human judges?
Remember, you are not GOD...you are god Junior. Think lower case "g" od
My dear brother! God bless you!
People are becoming too PRESUMPTUOUS with the most High God! Yes we are to come boldly to the throne of God our ABBA, but we are to come HUMBLY THROUGH YESHUA!
Isaiah 42:8 says that YAHWEH WILL SHARE HIS GLORY WITH NO MAN! PERIOD! WE NEED TO KNOW OUR PLACE!
LUCIFER HAD THE SAME ATTITUDE AS THESE PRESUMPTUOUS PREACHERS AND LOOK WHERE IT LANDED HIM!!
It is the spirit of Antichrist 2Thessalonian 2:4. He declares himself god.
The man of:Lawlessnes s is composite and was already at work in Pauls day. Thew were apostates and as the prophesied "failling away" expanded the whole of Christendom became such. By the middle/ early 2nd Century it was then well under way. We see at 1John 2:18" Young children it is the "LAST HOUR" because many false prophets had gone into the world". .....they were not of our sort by which fact we know it is the "LAST HOUR", Like the man of lawlessnes is composite so is the antichrist. It is a myth to say some man will gain the worship of the whole world. The wild beast (Greek therion) emerging from the Figurative sea is the world wide political set up as iit is in these "last days". Eventually Christendom by the 4th century did proclaim "himself" "a god" and still does although religious influence is waning. Translators being lazy and plagiarists Ignore the fact that there is no definite article before theos at 2Thess 2:4 Hence the indefinite article must be placed there since Koine Greek did not have one.
Anyone that calls other people derogatory names is antichriste, and also makes them selves gods.
It isn't far from the truth to call one self godly. Because if you serve the correct God, that is what you are. But not a single Christian would call themselves God. The false believers do though. And it is a system loophole that God placed into religion.
Which is why people should not follow religion, but follow God. God is a Person, Divine and alone capable of Judging the earth. Which is why He called Himself a Man.. because one day He alone would judge the world. Christians do not escape judgement. (There are some false believers that teach this)
May the lord God continue to bless you brother. Well said.
I think the 2 words everyone misses on psalms 82.6 is I say ye are gods
BUT John 10.34 who’s speaking JESUS CHRIST and says ‘is it not written in your law , 👉🏽I said 👈🏽 ye are gods
Excellent. You are absolutely correct. Also they were not “angels” as others claim they were; they were men. These men were given the power to judge like God. And in judging they also had the power of declaring life or death. That is why Gods called the judges “gods” “Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.”
Exodus 22:28 The “gods” here are Israel’s judges
Moses was also called a “god” by The Lord.
“And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.”
Exodus 7:1
Moses was given the authority to judge Pharaoh.
Thank you....I agree with your wisdom of this discernment about this passage. 👍
Thank you for the “expertise” helper immensely. I also think a way to look at this, we are all spitting image of god. We are here bc of god. We are who we are bc of god. And we all are in some way god. Just try and live and make our father proud.
Great teaching I don't see how people can throw this stuff in the wrong direction the Bible speaks for itself
Well done, I personally believe that Jesus is using Psalm 82 to call out these proud pompous religious leaders that wanted to stone Him, having the authority of life and death over the people that they were supposed to be leading to Godliness. Psalm 82 aligns with Matthew 23 in condemnation of the Scribes and Pharisees that abused their authority.
Dear I Think Biblically Thanks for Teaching REAL TRUTH. I did See that Pastor from Elevation Church. There's a scripture in the Bible that says without Vision the Peoples Perish. As I will ALWAYS say. We are to STOP
Stop what?
@@felip1real WITH THE NONSENSE.
"You are gods", as well as "God created man in his own image" says the fact that creation created man, and creation, that is, whose creative ability lies in him! To subdue the world means to shape and create it... So if god is the pure creative power, then we have it in us and should also live it consciously. To create the world around us! In every sense...
This title of this gospel is יענה. The title refers to a fulness of God in man by grace. It translates as "the beginning of the response of Jah." These are those to whom the word of God comes. Grace is multi-portioned. We know the grace of forgiveness, and we have the ability to grow in grace. Righteousness, holiness and then this, called "the good part." This is about "the way of life." God says, "seek my face." No one actually sees God's face, not even Moses, to whom the word of God definitely came. But he shows us the way through 3 courts to the Mercy "Seat." The pathway turns upward, here. Jesus is the physical manifestation of God and this is his throne. His face is covered by the Cherubim. Our journey is meant to be a return to the garden experience of walking and talking with God. In the last year of his ministry, Jesus had 4 groups of students. The gospel of John records lessons to the few closest to Jesus at that time. There are the 12, the 70 and "the other 70." The other 70 are those recently "established" in the kingdom, מערה. Matthew or μετθεου are the 70. This gospel is about the spirit of the Father and the will of the Father in us. By faith we can say "I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. I see this in מאת. The third portion is the "latter" blessing or לוק. This is a quickening of the mind through the Holy Spirit. With the 3 trimesters Jesus is fully formed in us. God is triune. By that I understand the father, the son, the holy spirit and a union of the 3 who we call The Most High God. If you look carefully at the variations of the gospels, the pattern is clearly evident in every passage of the Greek. I am no scholar. I have no education. I am simply a member of the elect drawn to the the King of Kings by the cords of love. :) Ελεκτον--->Πρωτον. Perhaps a coincidence? And perhaps the 3 courts/shells are coincidence. But to me, this is the pattern of all things. And I hope this explains how it is that we can be called "sons of God."
What the question mark at end of gods? What's that there for?????
Jesus exposed their hypocrisy
When a person read it in the original Hebrew, and you will see the difference between Yahweh as Elohim above all Elohim and the council itself as a lower classification of elohim.
Jesus answers the lower classification of elohim (gods) in John 10: 34 35.
Asaph the Prophet writes Psalm 82: 1 "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.”
John the Disciple/Apsotle writes Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
The lower class of elohim (gods) in Psalm 82 are human NOT non human/angels
WHY because the word of the Lord came to Prophets, God Spoke thru Prophets to the nation of Israel/Jews (Human). The Jews were also given the Law and had the Prophets. NO nonhuman/angel is ever referred to as a Prophet in scripture or were given the Law, Of course angels are messengers in scripture, but that is it.
The Law and Holy Scriptures were given to the nation of Israel/Jews NOT to non humans/angels. How God takes His place in the divine council is by the Prophet Asaph who wrote Psalm 82 and by the Law which was given to the Nation of Israel. What is KEY is that a Prophet of God like Asaph carried and handled the words of the Lord God, Prophets were the VOICE of God that is why it is IMPORTANT that Jesus fulfills these words...... Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.” ........Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," The "I said" declaration of Jesus as God is no different than an "I am" declaration. The "I said" and the "I am" declarations are all found in the Gospel of John.
Even common sense tells us that NO book in scripture is named after a non human being or an angel. The Lord God is in a Covenant relationship with MAN, NOT non human beings or angels. God lifts up Prophets in the Old Testament so Jesus can FULFILL what is written and spoken in the OldTestament Fulfilled by Jesus in the NewTestament. Jesus holds the answer of the "gods" (lower class elohim/gods), they are human in both Psalm 82 and John 10.
Psalm 82 does not mention Jesus. Where did you get him and fit him into there?
Why do people go to the Book of Psalm to try to run away from what Jesus explained on this verse which says that " we are gods". Remember that the Old Testament scriptures were fulfilled in the new Testament and not the other way round. So you cannot reject what Jesus explained in the new Testament by referring back to the Old Testament. And rejecting what the Bible says does not nullify God's word. Jesus explained clearly that the term, "you are gods" referred to those people to whom the word of the Lord came ( John 10:35). And we know that Jesus is the word of the Lord which became flesh and came to his people, who rejected him. So those to whom Jesus came, meaning those who received God's word, are the same people being called "gods". Why do we not just believe the scriptures?
Absolutely
Have you seen mike heisers understanding on psalm 82 and the use of elohim in the old testamment? I find it interesting...
Agree. Michael Heiser’s thorough development of the Divine Counsel helped me understand how each of the nations disbursed following the Tower of Babel to each was assigned an elohim. These elohim (sons of god) disobeyed Yahweh’s instruction on how to rule the disbursed Nations but became themselves corrupt by ruling unjustly. In Ps 82 Yahweh is calling them to account, finding them both corrupt and corrupting their nation, and condemns them to death like mere men. In this context I think the Jewish rulers listening knew Jesus was ALSO talking about their unjust rule over the nation of Judah/Israel.
There is only one thing I disagree with in all that you said which is God did not call them gods but rather the author of the psalm who is Asaph, he is expressing his feelings about their corruption of the ministry they were given by God. Your feedback on this please.
So basically his explanation is (they didn’t really mean “gods” they meant “Elohim” which could also mean “judges”..... ) “so basically he is saying “ye are judges.....”
Typical religionism. “This book is the direct word of god” unless it doesn’t fit in to my box then I will rewrite the words to something that makes sense to my strict view.
There were dozens of books left out of the canonized bible. Because people believe in the authority of man that’s why. They took out all of the spiritual truth like the gospel of Thomas which predates Matt, Mark, Luke, John....
To deny the godliness of man is to deny god itself.... Acknowledging we are gods with a lowercase “g” is different than saying “we are Gods” only religious dogma says its blasphemy to acknowledge what god endowed us with.
Your statements are very typical of new age (false) doctrine. The 'gospel' of Thomas is little more than psudographical (false writing) tripe. We are not 'gods', but rather we are sinful human beings in desperate need of the grace of God, and such grace is found through faith alone in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ and nothing else.
@@enterthebruce91 we must remember that we came here to receive a body. A body that we will eventually be resurrected back into. So what's the purpose of the body?
These two verses destroy the old Christian view that god is a separate Zeus-like like daddy dictator on a throne or heaven is a geographical place in the future or Jesus flesh is an idol to worship.
These old viewpoints are crumbling down fast as people are awakening to the true meanings. Christ is emerging through man.
Even though a mortal or immortal(angel /fallen angel) may be worshipped they ALL have a BEGINNING meaning they are created. Angels were called "sons of God" throughout the OT.
We are sons of God through Christ. However that means we are partakers(2 Peter 1:4). We will become immortals from a angel perspective, but not gods.
We are born of the spirit and have a rebirth into a race of lower case gods. BIG G is Capital - G od. We are of the race of Jesus who is YHWH. A rebirth renewal and regeneration of the Holy Spirit is a gift from Jesus. We eat his flesh and drink his blood. We eat his bread of life and drink his blood to become him. We eat and partake of the sacrificial lamb. Jesus was the high priest who sacrificed himself for our sins. We crucify our old self (our Adamic and fallen nature) Believers have immortality through Jesus the Immortal One.
Finally a teacher
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. If only our courts had godly judges who came up to the level of "sons of God" as meant by John. It's not that they havent sinned. It is that their faith has risen to realize the goodness of God. Like a good father, he has already forgiven his children. They have only to fully realize the Father's love.
Why did Jesus say we will do greater works than he did?
Is a seraphim Elohim as well and can a seraphim incarnate in a human form?
" YOU" ARE NOT AS I AM !!!
Some segments in the video are stamped not adjacent to each other
Would a majority view be the most high view?
I dont believe that psalm is referring to people but the point remains the same. Gods in this context as leaders and judges.
In Genesis 3:5, the serpent said "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and YE SHALL BE AS GODS, knowing good and evil."
In John 10:34, Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, YE ARE GODS?
Believe the serpent, then heaven is NOT your home.
Believe Jesus and REPENT FALLEN ANGEL.
Only one Gospel:
The Gospel of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods).
We think that we are more pleasing to God by lowering ourselves to be less than He created us to be.
God has a family He is birthing. It cost God (The Father) , paying God(the Son) to redeem us. So that's our value. We are the value God paid to buy us. Had God sent an angel to redeem us then our value would be angels.
Open your eyes and understand what God has in mind for us otherwise delete these 2# scriptures from the Bible. Don't you read your bibles? It says: "when He appears we shall be like Him" and elsewhere it says "We are co-heirs" but of what?
Only God can sit on the judgement seat in the universe. So what shall we be doing seating on those seats to judge angels? God begets god.
Why do we downplay the value of Jesus' blood to redeem US? What is the Holy Spirit of God (3rd of the Trinity) doing in US? Have you ever read that angels are filled with this Trinity component? Why US? What are some of those unspeakable things that Paul heard when he went to the third heaven? Why did Moses and Elijah shine with Jesus before His crucifixion? Why did they appear to Him at that point? So what does the new divine nature we are given mean? Did you hear *"DIVINE NATURE?"*
We will NEVER be ‘Gods’ in the same way that God is ‘God’! Without beginning; uncreated; omniscient; omnipresent; omnipotent.
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OK, Fine and great points.
So if the Spirit of God now dwells in you, and He will not be taken away from you, and He is now the new divine nature in you, don't you see that much as you were once born by your mum in year 19xx you are now born-again by the Spirit? Can't you see that eternity is now part of your new nature?
These are some of the things shown to Paul when caught up in the third heaven but some of us can't bear them. God begets god. God has given us a new nature that is timeless too.
@@samugote What the Apostle Paul saw when he entered the third heaven is unknown. He did not tell us what he saw. All I know is that we will never be ‘Gods’ in the same way that God is ‘God’. In addition to the point is have already mentioned ..... I will never be “Father”, “Son” and “Holy Spirit” and neither will you or anybody else. There is, was and ever shall be ONE God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. You ask “what does the divine nature we are given mean?” Whatever it means; it does not mean that we are “gods” in the same way that God is “God”.
@@lloydrowlands6616 I sense the honesty and honour unto God you have, Great. But re-read my post clearly. What and why are we heirs of?
If we were gods God would've let Moses see his face when he let his goodness pass by him...Exodus 33:19
Thank you so much for this!
Nice to hear sane thinking than someone grasping to be some there not. Jewish thought is to behave like God "represenitive" than be a God.
We are beings of light part of the one universal conciousness, God. We therefore are gods.
Yea they claim we are taking it out of context when we read what is plainly written. Then they proceed to take it way out of context and add their own spins on it. They are more interested it telling the Bible what it says then reading what it says.
Men will die.... Like men?
No, I think he's talking about fallen angels in charge of pagan nation's that were placed in kingdoms as judges of
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After the tower of babel.psalm 82.
While I agree that we are not gods, you butchered that John10:34 and Psalm 82:6 exegesis. Would love to talk to you in discord or zoom to explain to you those passages, God willing.
Pretty much every commentary agrees with my argument. Im not convinced of the divine council perspective.
@@iThinkBiblically Our authority is the Word of God. Not commentaries of men.
@@Jesus_is_Lord-I didn't say commentaries were an authority. I simply pointed out that they all agree with me. Therefore, since most scholars agree with the plain reading of the text then I am most likely correct. I've heard other views but they don't make much sense. What's your view?
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Your statement was, "Pretty much every commentary agrees with my argument." I was justified to infer that you are saying that your exegesis is right since majority of the scholars agrees with your position, ergo, I said our authority is not those scholars but rather the Word of God. Also, the plain reading is "ye are gods" (elohim) and not "ye are judges", so I'm not sure why your saying that the plain reading is judges.
I appreciate you editing the "lol" part on your reply. But, I honestly find your reply a bit confusing, you said "that they all agree with me" and on the next sentence you said "since most scholars agree with". Is it "all" or "most"? Nonetheless, our authority is God and not those scholars. Why not pray to God and read the passages again? If you are truly his adopted son, He will answer.
It's difficult to discuss these things on chat, that's why I offered zoom or discord. Anyway, I do hold to the divine council worldview. I don't used to, I prayed to God and read the passages again, and it all made sense. While this is non-essential topic and I would not hold it against if you don't believe it (e.g. age of the universe). I still love discussing such things for it is written, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your MIND."
@@Jesus_is_Lord- I'm familiar with the divine council view and have already watch Michael Heiser's stuff on this and other passages. I don't think its worth fighting over bro. I probably overreacted to your first comment.
Then why use the same moniker, especially in such a radically monotheistic religion such as Judaism? Semitic words and phrases do have shades of meaning I understand, more fluid than today's languages for an obvious reason, that reason being we've had time to add more vocabulary in order to account for more nuances in our communication. Yet and still that verse is telling us that God sees us in a light greater than we see ourselves. Plus you are missing the obvious: Jesus used the psalm to justify him saying that he and the father are one! Check that out...
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Thank you for reading that I hope people also heard that Jesus was sent he is not God . ! Thank you ! Also like to point out Genesis 3 : 5 . From God mind who know man & womenkind heart too Jesus mind .
It is Beni Elohim- it is speaking of the created sons of God, who are supernatural beings- like Gabriel and Michael chief princes. Except these were disobedient rebellious sons. This was done post Tower of Babel in whom he allowed to rule of rebellious people who were sent out to nations and He set the borders of these nations.
He also spoke about other princes as a supernatural such as the Prince of Persia and Tyre. Remember Daniel had to battle the prince of Persia? How would a human judge be a problem for a supernatural prince of the most high?!
I suppose you don’t believe that rebellious BeniElohim came down to mate with mortal women creating Nephilim?
This is why YHVH makes a big deal about other gods, (if they were imaginary then He would tell us so!)
The other gods were His rebellious sons/princes.
They were created. Yeshua was with Him from the beginning as part of Him. If there was a beginning. THAT is what begotten means.
Paul says we will judge them, the disobedient BeniElohim.
Yes. The only christ is the christ within.
Now here is what religion fails to understand! It is in John 10: 32-34, where a Jewish leaders and such wants to kill Jesus, for saying he was in par with being God. Jesus then defended who He was, by reminding them all, by their own scripture, who they "once were," by the use of Psalms 82. That they, "once" (in another Time, World and Age) stood before Him "in Judgement." And, as “God,” had once said to them: "Ye are gods" [Children of the Most High, but Ye shall all die like men!]. “liken” to physical men themselves that had existed, denoting a future change, from what they were, to what they will be, in another Time, Age and World, in the far future for them all. "Thus, the very same Men," who "were all now" trying to kill Him! The very same Judge (“God”) from out of their very past. Question: Are any of those Jewish (Men) still alive today? Or are they all dead? Therefore, who are You then, that are now reading this, but “once” the very same "Children of God" that were all born from out of a woman, just as Jesus Christ was, “who are also awaiting your own time to die (Psalms 82:7-Hebrew 9: 27) then fulfilling the very same judgement, from out of your own very past.
But why would God say you will die like mortal men to judges. They are human judges, everyone knows they will die like mortal men. Are you suggesting that just judges are immortal?
So that does Mean we are gods? ( Judges ) ?
Ye are Gods it’s plain and simple. Everyone runs away from this because it comes with too much responsibility. Most are still pray to a sky daddy. The kingdom of God is within. It doesn’t not come by observation. Ye are Gods - end of story as far as I’m concerned
They don’t have the understanding to comprehend it.That’s why they die like ordinary men.But guess what?We know who we are so we not going to die like ordinary men.Gods never die.
DOG GIVES BIRTH TO GOD
HORSE GIVES BIRTH TO HORSE
GOD GIVES BIRTH TO GOD
Yes exactly it's actually demonic entities stopping them from seeing what is plainly written. They accuse you of taking it out of context and then proceed to take it way out of context and add their own spins on it. Christians do this with so many parts of the Bible it's insane
@@isaacburton6584if you read after the verse you see that it says “but you will die like mere human beings” it’s simple we are rulers over earth yes the earth is what it is because of humans but you are not God as you are higher then the most high understand to humble yourself before the Lord.
If you'll notice in John 10:34 & Psalm 82:1. It is a lower case "g". We are not Gods or even godlike. We have been given gifts and authority from God. To which we should always remain humble. Casting out demons. Praying to God. The gift of the Holy Spirit. In Psalm 82, it was in regards to people in God-given positions of authority abusing their power in favor of the wicked. Like the gentleman in the video stated. Elohim has been translated as "judges."
In Exodus 20:3, God tells His people. "You shall have no other gods before me." Lower case "g". God is not actually saying there are other gods. There is a book that is titled "Return of the gods" based off this principle. And in this book it's not actually saying they are gods but that they are worshiped as gods. Same with God's scripture. So, there's a lot of contexts from the Bible where "god" is used but they aren't actually gods.
1 Corinthians 8:5-6, "For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), yet for us there is but One God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but One Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."
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I am GOD... thee end...
Sounds like Jesus was just playing with semantics. Conveniently identifying himself with the Old Testament prodigal son so as not to get into too much trouble too quickly.
I think people are just scared of this truth because it can be abused by false teachers. In reality, through Christ, we are gods. We will even judge angels!
What I'm saying is that in Christ we are like those judges that Jesus is referring to. It makes no sense to say that those judges are gods but we today, who are in Christ, who will inherit the world, who will judge peoples and angels, are not gods! Everything said to those judges applies to us in the future coming of Christ.
I think too many authentic teachers, such as yourself, fall into the trap of worrying about what evil teachers will do with this verse instead of accepting the plain reality of it and trusting that us, Christians, will still be humble about ourselves since we will "die like men" anyway.
you said that" Jesus did not deny that HE IS GOD' That is false he said he was the Son of God in the very same verse. never did he say he was God Almighty, but the son of God almighty.
Elohim are the spirit creatures in the heavenly realm that have dominion over the earth! "gods" - Elohim - spirit !
Yeah, I've heard that view before. Im personally not convinced of that view but its another probable interpretation.
@@iThinkBiblically Alternate view ... The context of John 10:34 is that Jesus is showing the ruling body (Sanhedrin) that just as the "word" went forth to the "sons of God" of the divine council in heaven, then they should not be surprised that the "word" (Son of God) must also go forth to its mirror image on earth, which is, the Sanhedrin. The Jews understood that the Elohim of Ps 82:6 were spiritual beings not humans. Elohim always refers to spiritual beings and never human beings. These Jews knew there is a temple, throne room and temple furnishings both in heaven (Is 6:1-7 & Revelation) and on earth, then there is also an assembly of heavenly hosts who have been granted authority to oversee earthly dominions. The members of this heavenly council are the "sons of God" (Deut 32:8) which is mirrored on earth as the Sanhedrin - see Ex 24:9-11 and Num 11:16-17. So, Jesus in John 10:34 is simply saying they should not be surprised that Yahweh has consecrated and sent his Son to them, just as he sent forth his word to the divine council in Ps 82:6. Furthermore, Jesus is warning them that just as the disobedient and rebellious divine council will be judged, so too will the disobedient and rebellious members of the Sanhedrin be judged. Whenever we read about the earth and the heavens being shaken, we are reading about this pending judgment to come.
Elohim means several different things, not just one
@@mcadleusma they referred actually to all of the above
We are gods in the sense that when adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit they become like God who knew good and evil.
We may not be like unto the most high but with God all things are possible and people like Samson or Solomon Joseph or Daniel Elijah or Elisha, Paul or Barnabas, Ham or Moses, David or Joshua, Noah or Aaron, or any prophet... what they could do was godlike and without their heavenly father they won't have power.