Is Jesus Michael The Archangel?
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Did you know that John Calvin, John Gill and Matthew Henry believed that Michael the archangel was Jesus? There are also some cult groups out there that believe that Michael the Archangel is Jesus as well. Jehovah's Witnesses (JW) believe that Michael the Archangel is Jesus and so do Seventh Day Adventists. Is this correct? Is Michael the archangel really Jesus? Well watch this video to find out. They use a bunch of different arguments, they say that there is only one archangel because in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 it says Jesus will come down with the voice of "the archangel", they say he is the commander of the Lords angelic host and that he is the great Prince of Israel etc.
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JESUS is the SON OF GOD❤
And he's God
So am I. Revelation 21:7.
To WHOMEVER overcomes (sin) he will inherit ALL THINGS. I will be his Elohiem and he will be MY SON"
"I said YOU are eloheim and are ALL SONS of the MOST High" Psalm 82:6.
Angels (spirits) are Sons of God celestial and humans are Sons of God, terrestrial. We are to worship NEITHER as our creator. Psalm 146:3, Revelation.
@@jdaze1Um, no. Taking scripture out of context, and cherry picking the one that appeals to you, doesn’t make you God.
This was the first lie in the Garden.
@@jdaze1 Re read, understand then speak.
More proof that denominations do nothing but divide and spread error rather than bringing believers together in Christ.
Denominationalism only divides when the theory is abused. It was denominationalism that brought unity to the church and ended religious wars. According to denominationalism, all Christians believe the core tenets of the Bible (which is why churches always have a statement of core beliefs), when accepted as inspired and inerrant, but they debate peripheral issues under the guidance of Christ. (In a free and fair debate the truth will win, as Christ is Lord). This debate is done under the love of Christ. However, denominationalism is abused when peripheral concepts are made into core beliefs to condemn others.
@seannapier2298 💯💯💯 Denominations are of man, not The Lord.
@@patrickbrowne4606 Acts 15:1-21-- here are two denominations created by the apostles.
@@mpaulwebb8345Yeah the Believers and Non Believers
Yea the free grace denomination is very devisive and false
I'm sorry to say, but the biblical evidence does not support your interpretation of the text.
@@jahtruthdefender "biblical evidence"? Seems gods word is incredibly divisive and contradictory. It's open to much interpretation. It's also not even available to huge portions of the world's population.
God's clearly not too good at communicating. I thought he was supposedly perfect.
Jesus is the divine Word made flesh.
The same Word by which the universes were created, as described in Genesis chapter one.
Jesus had no problem rebuking Satan directly, something Michael was not authorized to do (Jude 9).
@@bobbyadkins6983 That's right. As John chapter one describes.
Zec 3:2 And *_the LORD_*_ said unto Satan, _*_The LORD rebuke thee,_* O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
The archangel is just announcing the coming of Jesus Christ! Like a bailiff announcing the judge walking in a courtroom.. ALL RISE!
If you have the wrong Jesus, sorry, he can’t save you.
That's right
How do you know you have the right one?
@@coreyevans9543
Do you have the answer for this?
I would say that we need to test the spirits with the Bible as the benchmark.
What is your opinion?
@@nonconformist4802
Agreed. I think the statements are clear in the NT about what needs to be believed.
1. Jesus is the Messiah (Christ).
2. Jesus is the Son of God.
3. Jesus was crucified, buried, and raised to life.
4. Jesus is Lord.
Belief in those things indirectly means you believe in the God who made Him Christ, Lord, raised from the dead, and the Son of God.
@@theyetiinoz1478 Example:
Prophet ISA of Islam and Mormon Jesus(Jesus have harem)
We are not to worship the angels
And we aren't to worship Jesus either.
@@djparsons7363how do you honor him?
You all worship yourselves
@@Uncanny_Mountain Prove it.
@djparsons7363 Why can't Jesus be worshipped?
One thing no one ever mentions or considers is that in Revelations John mentioned both Jesus and Michael by name. John who knew Jesus personally mentions Michael by name. If Michael is Jesus, why didn't John just say Jesus and his angels instead of Michael and his angels? Did John not recognize Jesus when he saw that part? or is it safer to say the reason John mentions Michael is because he saw someone other than Jesus when he saw that part of his vision?
I think one small distinction needs to be made. JWs believe that Jesus by nature is less than God and so he is an angel, just the head of them. Everyone else tends to believe that Michael the Archangel is just a title given to Jesus when he is taking on the role of commander of the Angelic Army and he isn't an angel by nature.
@@wilsonsmanz I agree
Michael not being able to rebuke satan whereas Jesus can isnt really a good arguement as God said the same phrase( Zechariah 3:2).
Ironically enough, you fail to realize that the Word is speaking in the 1st person here. The NLT correctly renders this statement as Him saying " I, [the Eternal], reject your accusations, Satan . Yes, [the Eternal], who has chosen Jerusalem, rebukes you". This statement 100% disproves the belief that Jesus is Michael as false because the Word is giving Satan a double rebuke _with His own authority here, and as his Creator_ .
Not forgetting angel simply means messenger and not necessarily a being with wings.
This is powerful thanks a lot for this clearity and I think it’s where most of people stumble.
It's all one man
And he owns all words, and the Bible
The Bible is his own imprint
@@kiwisaram9373 Sure. A being with wings would be nuts. But your version is believable?
Awesome video brother keep it up, this is service to
God to the church and I appreciate it, it's always awesome to get back to the basics to refresh the mind!
Those are some very compelling arguments, but all things being equal, the first chapter of Hebrews seems to have been written to quell any misunderstandings on the topic.
There are several passages that affirm the superiority of Jesus Christ over angels in addition to the one in the video. One key verse that contrasts Jesus with angels is Hebrews 1:5, which states, "For to which of the angels did God ever say, 'You are my Son, today I have begotten you'?" This verse highlights the special relationship between God the Father and Jesus as His Son, underscoring Jesus' exalted status above the angels.
And still another significant passage in Hebrews that distinguishes Jesus from angels is Hebrews 1:4, which declares, "Having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs." This verse emphasizes the incomparable greatness and supremacy of Jesus Christ over all angelic beings, affirming His divine nature and authority as the Son of God.
Throughout the book of Hebrews, it consistently serves to emphasize the preeminence of Jesus Christ and His role as the divine Savior, distinct from and superior to any angelic being.
SDAs believe, that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, but that does not mean, that he is a created being. Christians generally believe, that Jesus is the Son of Man, but that doesn't mean that he isn't God. So Jesus is God, and "Archangel" and "Son of Man" are simply his titles, and "Michael" and "Immanuel" are his prophetic names.
@@DominikKoppensteiner _SDAs believe, that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, but that does not mean, that he is a created being._
Yes it does mean that. Angels are created beings. There can't be an angel that wasn't created. Only God is eternal. And being the Son of Man is another title for the Messiah, who necessarily is God. It's based on the book of Daniel.
*“I was watching in the night visions,*
*_And behold, One like the Son of Man,_*
*_Coming with the clouds of heaven!_*
*He came to the Ancient of Days,* _-- Daniel 7:13_
And it was accounted to Jesus as blasphemy, the reason they crucified Him when He replied using the same terms:
*62And Jesus said, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, **_and coming with the clouds of heaven.”_** 63And the high priest tore his garments and said, **_“What further witnesses do we need? 64You have heard his blasphemy._** What is your decision?” And they all condemned him as deserving death.* _-- Mark 14:62_
And just like the Son of Man is God, the Angel of the Lord is God. (Genesis 22:11-12, Exodus 3:2-4, Zechariah 3:1-3, and Genesis 32:25-31 compared with Hosea 12:3-6)
Usually, sons of men are created and angels are created. But in this case, the Son of Man and Angel of the Lord is an exception, because it is Jesus in human/angelic form. It would then be possible, considering that Jesus also appears as an angel, that "Archangel" is one of his many title, because it means that he is the commander of the angels.
@@DominikKoppensteiner The Angel of the Lord, while appearing in angelic form, is not a created angel, but rather a theophanic appearance of the eternal Son of God. However, the Bible does not state that Michael the Archangel is the same as the Angel of the Lord or Jesus Christ. We have to be cautious about making definitive claims beyond what the Scriptures clearly say.
The Scriptures teach that angels are distinct, created beings, not to be worshipped or elevated above their rightful place (Colossians 2:18). Again, this is a clear indication that Michael the Archangel is not Jesus.
The key is recognizing the special, divine status of the Angel of the Lord, even as Hebrews makes clear distinctions between Jesus and angels more broadly. This helps in understanding the relationship between these Old Testament and New Testament passages.
The clear teaching of Hebrews is that Jesus, as the eternal Son of God, is infinitely superior to the angels. He is the ruler, the object of angelic worship, and the one who has accomplished the work of salvation - things that are not attributed to any angel.
@@DB_- Yes, but aren't you starting with the presupposition, that only a created angel can be an archangel? We do not have much information about Michael, but the information that we do have suggests, that there is no created angel called Michael, but that Michael is simply another prophetic name of Jesus, just like Immanuel, and that "Archangel" would be a title, similar to "Son of Man", that in no way denies the Trinity or turns a created angel into God.
What we are saying, is this: Michael, as you imagine him, does not exist. Jesus, as the second person of the Godhead, does exist. And Jesus has multiple prophetic names, and "Michael" is one of them.
Michael, referred to by some religions as “Saint Michael,” is evidently a name given to Jesus before and after his life on earth. Michael disputed with Satan after the death of Moses and helped an angel deliver God’s message to the prophet Daniel. (Daniel 10:13, 21; Jude 9) Michael lives up to the meaning of his name-“Who Is Like God?”-by defending God’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies.-Daniel 12:1; Revelation 12:7.
Michael is “the archangel.” (Jude 9) The title “archangel,” meaning “chief of the angels,” appears in only two Bible verses. In both cases, the word is singular, suggesting that only one angel bears that title. One of those verses states that the resurrected Lord Jesus “will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16) Jesus has “an archangel’s voice” because he is the archangel, Michael.
Michael commands an angelic army. “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon,” Satan. (Revelation 12:7) Michael has great authority in the spirit realm, for he is called “one of the foremost princes” and “the great prince.” (Daniel 10:13, 21; 12:1) These titles designate Michael as “the commander-in-chief of the angelic forces,” as New Testament scholar David E. Aune puts it.
The Bible mentions only one other name of someone having authority over an army of angels. It describes “the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7, 8; Matthew 16:27) Jesus “went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.” (1 Peter 3:21, 22) It would not make sense for God to set up Jesus and Michael as rival commanders of the holy angels. Rather, it is more reasonable to conclude that both names, Jesus and Michael, refer to the same person.
Michael “will stand up” during an unprecedented “time of distress.” (Daniel 12:1) In the book of Daniel, the expression “stand up” is often used to refer to a king who rises up to take special action. (Daniel 11:2-4, 21) Jesus Christ, identified as “The Word of God,” will take special action as the “King of kings” to strike down all of God’s enemies and protect God’s people. (Revelation 19:11-16) He will do so during a time of “great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning.”-Matthew 24:21, 42.
Well spoken, well articulated. Especially how you first, without disrespect or condemnation, presented the opposing argument, then countered succinctly. Well done
Thanks mate :)
That’s crazy that those people believed Jesus is Michael!!
Good video. Jude verse is good. So is the one in Daniel 10. Hebrews verse too.
... the understanding is vastly different between the two groups of people... SDAs believe that it is a pre-incarnate title to keep the mystery hidden before his birth on earth. Then we see Jesus giving hints of his authority during his ministry but not being directed about it... we see the book of Jude quoting The Book of Enoch...
Hi Matt. 😀Those who say Jesus is anything but the Son of God, God in flesh, the Messiah and Savior of the World, do NOT know Him. And we know what Jesus says to all those on Jesus left at the judgement, "Away from me you evil doers. I NEVER knew you". If you are not spiritually reborn and have a saving knowledge of who God is, then don't expect Him to know you on judgement day. Jesus is God, the Son and One with the Father. Michael is a creation, Jesus is eternal and everything was created by, for and through Him.
SDA's believe that Jesus is no created angel, but the divine Son of God, the 2nd person of the Trinity, Yahweh. We believe, that "archangel" is a title, because Jesus is the leader of the angels, although he himself is not a created angel. It is similar to the title "Son of Man." Jesus is also called the Angel of Yahweh in the Old Testament, and the Angel of Yahweh is Yahweh God himself. (See Genesis 22:11-12, Exodus 3:2-6 and Zechariah 3:1-3)
@@Cmedic57
I disagree. We don't need to believe Jesus is God for salvation. The NT never states that as a requirement.
@@coreyevans9543 WOW ... read again what you just said. So you don't believe Jesus is God, the Son? If you do not know Jesus was God in flesh and One with the Father, then you do not know Jesus at all. John 14:8-11. His disciples knew who He was and worshiped Him. Even doubting Thomas when he touched Jesus wounds knelled before Him in worship and exclaimed, "My Lord and My God".John 20:28 If you do not know that, then you are not born again or know the living God.
Many in the early Church believed the Archangel was Theophanic. I've NO issue if you hold this view whatsoever, providing you don't conflate "angel" to mean created here (like JWs do). The word "angel" simply means "messenger." The "Angel of the Lord" and the "Angel of the Covenant" in the Old Testament is the Word of God (Christ), who in uncreated and eternal and God.
It would be more fruitful if you actually had a Jehovah’s Witness on your channel defending their claim
Hebrews 1:5-14
5For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son,
today I have begotten you”?
Or again,
“I will be to him a father,
and he shall be to me a son”?
6And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”
7Of the angels he says,
“He makes his angels winds,
and his ministers a flame of fire.”
8But of the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”
10And,
“You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning,
and the heavens are the work of your hands;
11they will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment,
12like a robe you will roll them up,
like a garment they will be changed.a
But you are the same,
and your years will have no end.”
13And to which of the angels has he ever said,
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”?
14Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?
Jesus is NOT Michael the arch angel.
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Citing those same verses.. Jesus _is_ Archangel Michael
Using this approach, one could argue that Jesus was not truly human, because the Bible also says, "God is not a man, that he should lie, or the son of man, that he should repent." (Numbers 23:19)
But doing this goes against the meaning of the text. No Christian believes, that a simple man created the universe, and Adventists don't believe, that Jesus is a created angel. We don't say, that God calls a created angel his son, but that Jesus as the 2nd person of the Godhead has taken the heavenly title "Archangel", although he himself is not a created angel.
The old testament also speaks of the Angel of the LORD, who is the LORD himself, see Genesis 22:11-12, Exodus 3:2-6, Zechariah 3:1-3 and compare Genesis 32:25-31 with Hosea 12:3-6.
@@DominikKoppensteiner
There is no evidence for an uncreated Angel. No Jews believed in uncreated Angels
@@eew8060 What do you mean? The Angel of the Lord is clearly uncreated, because he is God taking angelic form. (See Genesis 22:11-12, Exodus 3:2-6, Zechariah 3:1-3 and compare Genesis 32:25-31 with Hosea 12:3-6)
The Son of Man is also uncreated, because he is God taking human form through Jesus Christ.
That does not mean, that there is an uncreated God and also an uncreated angel and also an uncreated man,
but it means that the uncreated God has taken the form of an angel and he has taken the form of a man.
Our Lord Jesus is the divine creator. He is not a created being.
We worship Him not the Archangel Michael . I think it’s crucial to know who He is. Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord.
Jesus was USED in creation by his Father who is Almighty God. We are to worship ONLY the Father, Jehovah, who created Jesus. (Proverbs 8:22) It is crucial to know who Jesus and Jehovah are but mainstream religions have never done so.
It is a salvation issue if those cults worship Michael. The God Trinity is the Christian God. Those cults worship another “god” who is Michael.
@@owenbest1015 Nobody worships Michael, we worship only Almighty God Jehovah, the same one that Jesus worships. You need to lose your pagan trinity belief before it's too late.
@@djparsons7363 This youtuber’s claim is absolutely false. He said it is nothing to do with salvation when SDA and JW followers claim that Jesus is Michael. If Jesus is Michael, they worship an angel/archangel.
@@djparsons7363 Jesus is God. You are wrong. Repent before it is too late. Christians do not worship a pagan trinity. Trinity God is not a pagan god. You have to know the meaning of trinity
Caleb, I really enjoy your channel and appreciate how your discussions are always respectful. I learn a lot from your content, and it helps me to critically examine my own beliefs and stay grounded in the truth. If possible, I think it would be an excellent idea to invite Keith Foskey (from the RUclips channel YourCalvinist) to your platform for a discussion. When you have a chance, please take a look at his channel. I know you have a deep understanding of Calvinism, but also some questions, and I believe Keith is the perfect person to engage with. He seems very respectful towards those who disagree with him and is open to discussions. Once again thank you for all your videos and making Christ the centre.
Hey brother, appreciate the comments! Really encouraging. Regarding Calvinism I’ve done it to death to be honest when talking to friends. I was in a church made up of both Calvinists and Arminians for 6 years and we debated it all the time. That phase is over for me :)
"To which of the angels said He at any time, 'sit thou on my right hand, till i make thine enemies thy footstool'"
Your right or his?
In the Old Testament, Jesus is the Angel of the Lord. He talked to Abraham and Moses and wrestled Jacob!
After Jesus' death, Jesus was exalted to the right hand of Jehovah God!
Psalm 110 Jesus was raised up in glory at his Father's right hand .
John 17: So now, Father, glorify me at your side with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.
Acts 3:22 In fact, Moses said: ‘Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to whatever he tells you.
Jesus came in the Name of the Father and Moses wrote about Jesus. John 5:43 I have come in the name of my Father, but you do not receive me. If someone else came in his own name, you would receive that one. 44 How can you believe, when you are accepting glory from one another and you are not seeking the glory that is from the only God? 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you, Moses, in whom you have put your hope. 46 In fact, if you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe what I say?”
Revelation 5:5
The Angel that sits on the throne of King David! Jesus is an Angel a Bright Morning Star! All Angels are called morning stars the sons of God. Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Revelation 5:5 Jesus is the Bright Morning Star! The root of David! Revelation 22:16
@@strappedfatman7858 hahaha. There is no angel in Revelation 5:5
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Nothing whatsoever about an angel. And no, Jesus Christ is not "one of" the angels, He is the One True Living God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. The Creator of the angels.
@@ShopharTempleIsaiah 9:6
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
I, Yeshua, have sent my Angel to testify these things among you before the assemblies. I AM THE LIVING GOD, The Root and The Offspring of David, and his Companion, and The Bright Morning Star.” Revelation 22:16
Thank you for looking at both sides. You say it is not a salvational issue, yet if you start praying to Michael to intercede or mediate, or worshipping him, as catholics do with Mary, it probably will be a salvation issue, as you get into idolatry.
Yes agreed.
Jesus CREATED the Archangel Michael! a great book that should be in EVERY Christian's library is the book by curt daniel entitled 1OO PROOFS THAT JESUS IS GOD. excellent book!
Jesus receives things from God, so that makes it impossible for Him to be God.
Hebrews Chapter 1.
@warwickpayne3338
Yes, Jesus is greater than an angel. That's what the writer labours to demonstrate
@@warwickpayne3338
Hebrews 1:4 - So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
You believe that God became superior to His angels and inherited a superior name than His angels?
@@coreyevans9543 6Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
7Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Sorry but your wrong. Breaking the 1st and 2nd commandment and worshipping anyone other than God and making an idol aka the angel is a sin and you will not inherit salvation. You can't be spreading blasphemy like this in youtube at the 17:00 mark and think this won't spread lies and make those in false religions feel vindicated to continue in sin or worshipping a false man made idol! Please edit that last part out. Condemn it out right. Don't promote it otherwise you will have to answer to God.
No. 🥱
Excellent teaching! Your study of the Bible is exemplary and inspiring, although at times I do disagree with you. So let us know - what is your approach to Bible study? Also, you seem Australian, but with an association with the UK. Is that true? What is your name -- it is only fair that we should know. I am American. Believe it or not -- it was Isaac Newton who had a profound influence on me on the power of Bible study.
Concerning the parable of the 10 virgins our Lord says this in
Matthew25:5,6
5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. 6But at midnight *there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him*
Interestingly my kjv cross references verse 6
with 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (kjv)
Its clear in verse 6 that the cry/shout is *not* the voice of our Lord Jesus the Bridegroom.Someone else is announcing His coming.
While the voice is not identified in the parable,one could rightly come to the conclusion that the church (His bride) is awaiting her Bridegroom and not an Arch angel,so it would seem the Arch angel is shouting *Here is the Bridegroom* according to verse 6.
Also in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 we have not only Jesus coming with the voice of an Arch angel but also the sound of the trumpet of God,angels blow trumpets(Rev8:8)
If we refer back to matt25:5,all the virgins had fallen asleep,the voice of the Arch angel and the blowing of the trumpet of God no doubt would awaken them from their slumber in order to meet the Bridegroom.
Exelent point. Thank you very much for pointing this out.
Well yes, in a wedding, someone other than the bridegroom (usually the minister) announces, "I now present to you Mr & Mrs John Doe." That ofcourse, is at the end; but at the beginning, the official conducts everything - not the bridegroom.
Hello brother, youve done a video about submission to pastors and the state, can you do one explaining the submission for wifes or atleast send a video you think explains the subject well?
I have been married for nearly 50 years. Have learned many things about what it means to be a God fearing husband. God had to work on me first to bring about what I wanted in my wife. You may want a wife that is submissive, but be careful what you ask for, as He had to humble me first. I found that marriage is God's crucible, and in order to have a good one, you need to make a lot of personal sacrifices and chose to love your wife unconditionally. She should be your prayer partner (Matthew 18:20)
Stay blessed brother and keep spreading the truth
Hebrews 2, verse 7 says he was made a little lower than the angels.
As a man on earth. Jesus has always existed with the Father.
@@BloodBoughtMinistries One cannot be two natures. God's divinity would far surpass Jesus' human nature. the two cannot cohabit. Jesus was a mighty spirit being before he became human. Plus, cannot die. Jesus died fully. Why would God be sad and cause an earthquake if Jesus didn't really die. He either died or he did not. No way around it. And we all know that God, the true God is immortal and unable to die. If Jesus had been God could've never died and his death would've been false and non-saving. But Jesus as a full human, no longer a spirit in heaven was mortal. But then, when he was raised up by God, THEN God made Jesus immortal, never to die again as Paul stated in Romans 6:9. If Jesus was able to die once, he was not immortal, hence not God.
This is so stupid claim , this pasage is explain very well that Jesus will come ,doesn't say archangel will come.... Jesus will come with voice of archangel doesnt mean He is archangel.... false churches and cults all the time try to downplay Jesus Christ and Hi"s position but one day when they stand before Jesus to be judged will be too late....
If you know how to read thats exactly what it suggests. Jesus coming with a voice of an archangel implies he is an archangel.
He is Not a created being, he is God manifest in flesh. - 1 Timothy 3:16
Not according to Proverbs 8:22,30,31 which clearly reveals Jesus' creation, he is the Master Worker.
@@djparsons7363 Isiah 6:9
@@djparsons7363 youll be accountable accordingly to our God the son Jesus christ 1 John 5:7
@@djparsons7363 If your treatment On him Is just a human heaven and hell Is real
@@needsgreeters4871 The words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (KJ) found in older translations at 1 John 5:7 are actually SPURIOUS ADDITIONS TO THE ORIGINAL TEXT.
MODERN TRANSLATIONS as a whole, both Catholic and Protestant, DO NOT INCLUDE THEM IN THE MAIN BODY OF THE TEXT, BECAUSE OF RECOGNIZING THEIR SPURIUOS NATURE. -RS, NE, NAB.;
Is that what you are using to make a point, a Scripture that doesn't belong in the Bible? I will gladly be accountable for spreading truth.
15:42 this guy out to lunch. How gave the Ten Commandments to Moses ? You say God, but according to Steven go read it the sermon he gives before being stoned , Steven is telling them the Angel was on the mountain. God Bless.
Jesus was the "Angel" in the sense that He was a Messenger. The term "angel" doesn't always refer to the angelic beings. Stephen referred to Him as the "Angel" on the mountain because He was the Word, or Spokesman. The Word relayed the commands of the Most High to the Israelites from Sinai. Christ specifically stated that He has _always_ spoke the words that His Father commanded Him to speak(Jhn 8:28, 12:49).
Yes he is and his name is Michael the word of God. Both are defenders of Jerusalem. When Michael is mentioned the Word is not, when the Word is mentioned Michael is not. Michael literally translates to one who is like God, who else is "like God" but Jesus and both sit at the right hand of God.
This is a great teaching for me when I talk to JW's who try to defend this false idea.
Thank you so much for making such content❤❤❤❤
John 8:58: Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I am"
John 10:30: Jesus says, "I and the Father are one"
John 5:17-18: Jesus says, "I am equal with the Father"
John 14:9: Jesus says, "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father"
Matthew 25:31-46: Jesus claims the authority to judge the nations
John 5:25-29: Jesus claims the authority to raise people from the dead
Mark 2:5-7: Jesus claims the authority to forgive sins
John 14:13-14: Jesus claims the power to answer prayers
John 16:15: Jesus says, “All that belongs to the Father is mine”
Calvin's commentary on Daniel 10 exemplifies his exploratory and contextual approach to biblical interpretation, rather than a definitive doctrinal statement. His phrase "I do not object to this view" indicates that he neither entirely rejected nor accepted the idea that Michael the archangel is Jesus. Calvin's reasoning that the title "prince of the Church" is unique to Christ suggests an openness to this interpretation in this specific context. However, it is crucial to note that Calvin never explicitly affirmed or denied the identification of Jesus with Michael in his theological arguments.
Calvin's views on this topic are characterized by nuance, and it is important to consider the context in which he made this statement. Labeling Calvin a heretic based on this single comment is inaccurate and oversimplifies his contributions to Reformed theology.
Furthermore, your argument presents a false dichotomy, positing that if one believes it is heretical to equate Jesus with Michael, then they must necessarily consider Calvin a heretic. This is an unsound theological argument, as it neglects the complexity of Calvin's thought and the speculative nature of his commentary.
Calvin was a renowned theologian who made significant contributions to the Reformation. His biblical interpretations and speculations, like those of contemporary scholars, were subject to the limitations of his time and context. It is important to recognize that his speculations did not necessarily constitute doctrine.
Actually there is another place where he specifically embraces the doctrine when he lectures on Daniel 12:1; LECTURE SIXTY-FIVE. I embrace the opinion of those who refer this to the person of Christ, because it suits the subject best to represent him as standing forward for the defense of his elect people. He is called the mighty prince, because he naturally opposed the unconquered fortitude of God to those dangers to which the angel represents the Church to be subject. sacred-texts.com/chr/calvin/cc25/cc25006.htm
The Geneva Bible Commentary agrees in its comments on Daniel 12:1: The angel here notes two things: first that the Church will be in great affliction and trouble at Christ's coming, and next that God will send his angel to deliver it, whom he here calls Michael, meaning Christ, who is proclaimed by the preaching of the Gospel.
So did Johnathon Edwards: Satan has ever had a peculiar enmity against the Son of God. Probably his first rebellion, which was his condemnation, was his proudly taking it in disdain, when God declared the decree in heaven, that his Son in man’s nature, should be the King of heaven, and that all the angels should worship him. However that was, yet it is certain that his strife has ever been especially against the Son of God. The enmity has always been between the seed of the woman, and the serpent. And therefore that war which the devil maintains against God is represented by the devil and his angels fighting against Michael and his angels (Rev. 12:7). This Michael is Christ (Dan. 10:21 and 12:1). (Jonathan Edwards, Christ Exalted, Section III)
Calvin had a lot of garbage theology.
@@iThinkBiblically This is a typology, it is not referring to Michael as Christ.
Great teaching. I think it could be a salvation issue. Believing Jesus is a created being and someone he is not is no small thing. I don't know. But I wouldn't recommend chancing it.
Not everyone who believed it thought Michael was a created being. It's even in the Geneva Bible study notes. It was wildly popular during the reformation.
Thanks for the mini bible study! I wonder if my jw friends would watch it? I'm going to ask them next time I see them. Thanks Caleb 👍❤️✝️
Hebrews 2:5
For it was not to angels that God subjected the world to come, of which we are speaking.
Why do you say though that it’s not a salvation issue or that someone who holds this view that Jesus is an Angel isn’t a heretic?
We are talking about the Lord of Glory here, the uncreated, the eternal life Himself, the creator of all things. Are we to say that someone who reduces the creator to a creation wouldn’t be a heretic? So does that mean the Arians get an automatic pass?
If you believe that Jesus is God then who is Jehovah (Yahweh) ? Lol and why does the Bible refer to Jesus as the son of God?
@ Because whatever makes the Father God, Jesus is of the same substance which means the Father is YHWH and the Son is YHWH
@@BibleTruthPerspective Since Father is YHWH and Jesus is the son, you shouldn't mix their existence as 1 being. even Jesus prayed and spoke to God.
@ Why shouldn’t I when the scriptures says Jesus is of the same Nature as the Father.
Hebrews 1:3
"He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power"
Should I believe you or believe the scriptures?
The Father Himself spoke to Jesus and calls Him God
Hebrews 1:8
"But about the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom'".
So if the Father didn’t hesitate to call Him God then when should I? Listen I’ll take my chances with the scriptures instead of with you ok.
@@BibleTruthPerspective bravo
NO. Jesus is ONE WITH FATHER! God HIMSELF!
Hey brother, do you think you could do a video on the false doctrines of the Hebrew Iseralites?
Ok so you're not interested in responding to people who disagree with you but on the off chance that you do read the comments. It was Michael who appeared in the furnace with the three Hebrews, it was Michael that supported the Israelites in the wilderness it was Michael who had a difference with the Devil about Moses body, BTW, Michael refers to the Almighty when he said "May The LORD Rebuke you" He was no talking about the Lord Jesus Christ, for the simple reason Jesus had not been born let alone was the Christ. The point you're missing is that Jesus had a pre- human existence as Michael or the "Word" It was not until Jesus was born was there any mention of Jesus. Nowhere in the bible is there any mention of Jesus prior to his being born to the virgin Mary. Jesus is going to resurrect the dead with the cry of an arch angels voice of Michael The name that he is known by now, after his resurrection from the dead.
I have learned that if you have to give a whole explanation, with or using "possible" explanations ("it could" and/or "it is possible"/"it looks to me" as part of an argument) when looking at the bible interpretation, might not be the right way to bring it your idea. Plus, it is important to notice the archangel did not stop Joshua from praising him, as is the case on other biblical verses. I'm not saying that it is not possible that you are right, I'm just thinking a better case could be made to bring your point forward. The Bible is very clear and powerful, the word of God is revealed to those who seek the Lord, so it should be easy to understand it. I believe you can make a better and more clear argument. May the Lord continue blessing you.
as he mentioned in the video the man Joshua saw was probably Christ Jesus. It doesnt say it was Michael.
You make a good point about praising the angel and I had originally considered this aspect as defining, but the encounter in the book of Joshua where Joshua worships the mysterious figure, is often interpreted as a theophany of God Himself. Caleb mentioned this in the video. The fact that Joshua's act of worship is not rebuked suggests the possibility that this figure holds a special divine significance, possibly representing a manifestation of God's presence and authority in the midst of the Israelites.
And yes, I know I used a variant of "possible" in my explanation, but to be fair you did as well. ))
God Bless.
Jude 1:9 "Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”"
Yeshua and Yahweh can speak however they want to the devil. This tells me that Michael is in fact not the Almighty.
Where does it say that Joshua met an "archangel"? That was the Angel of the Lord, that is to say Jesus Christ.
"Angel" means "messenger", not restricted to angelic beings.
I have to object the person Joshua was talking to was never called Michael it said a man with a sword not Michael
Always great watching your videos 👍
Why Jacob said that he saw God face to face and didn't surely die after he wrestled with him and blessed him?. Genesis 32:24-30) This same God was called angel ( Hoea 12:4).
Angel of the Lord told to Samson's parents later Manoah feared to die because they saw God( angel of the Lord) Judges 13: 13-22.
Why angel of the Lord called God then?
Angel of the Lord met Moses in mount of the God , the Horeb with a fire burning bush but didn't consumed it and didn't even tell his name while asking for his name by Moses like he didn't tell to Jacob his name , From burning bush God commanded Moses to take off his wearing sandals ( Exodus 3:1-6
This same angel faced to Joshua with sword in his hand
as captain of angels , and Joshua worshipped him later he commanded Joshua to take off sandals like same happened to Moses in wilderness, in Horeb( Joshua 5:13-15.
There are different names used to Jesus in Bible:
Jesus called Immanuel ( Isaiah 7:14)
His name "Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting, Father, the Prince of Peace"( Isaiah 9:6)
Messiah,the prince ( Daniel 9:25)
Michael, the great prince ( Daniel 12:1)
"And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Sata;.." ,"Angel of the Lord." (Zechariah 3:2,6) This Lord called " ... Michael the archangel..but said , Lord rebuke thee." ( Jude 9)
If archangel was just a created being an angel then why Paul campare him as Lord
, God , Christ " For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with bthe voice of an archangel, and with
the trump of God : and the dead in Christ shall rise first : ( 1Thessalonians 4:16) Angels voice cant give life to dead human being except Jesus , the God.
Jesus also called himself Son of Man ,and can forgive sin but
John John called him the only begotten of God'( John 1:14)
And there was warcin heaven;
Michael and his angels fought against the dragon...and his angels ( Revelation12 :7).
But in Hebrew 1:6 said," ... angels of God worship him."
Therefore angel of the Lord is Michael, the great prince, Messiah, the prince, the prince of peace.
As mush as i can clearly understand these arguments, i can also imagine how they (jw) could counter argue and be more insistent. As an ex JW myself, I know how difficult is to accept we are wrong about our fate. I personally think these arguments are simply not sufficient. But is an awesome video tho
Ask the Jehovah Witness to give you a single text where it explicitly states that Jesus is Michael Chapter and verse If they point to Daniel 10 and 12 ask again where in those verses does it say it's speaking exactly about Jesus
The Jehovah Witness will argue that Michael is called Chief Prince but he's called "ONE OF" The Chief Princes That means they are more than one of his kind he is not unique John 3:16 in the Greek Only Begotten is "Monogenes" it means "One of Kind" "Unique Son" Jesus alone has the title "King of kings and the Lord of lords" That's sovereignty He's Unique no one else has that title No where in scripture in the whole entire books of the Bible does it explicitly says that Jesus is called Chief Prince Jehovah Witnesses read into the text a whole lot of Eisegesis rather than Exegesis as well as twisting scripture to conform to their false theology Why would Jehovah place an angel to rule his Kingdom? Hebrews 2:5 is absolutely clear that no angel will rule God's kingdom but Jesus CANNOT be an angel Jesus is God manifested in the flesh He is absolutely sovereign over everything Luke 1:32-33 Revelation 19:16 Genesis 49:10 2 Samuel 7:16 Psalm 2:6 Daniel 7:13-14 Matthew 2:1-2 Matthew 9:35
Thank you for this🙏🏻 It proves the truth of The Urantia Book even more. Not that I needed any proving, the words alone do that. But it sure makes everything else make sense… like this!
Hebrews 1:4
So he has become better than the angels: In this letter, Paul frequently uses the word “better” to emphasize the superiority of the Christian way of worship. (See “Introduction to Hebrews.”) Jesus became “better than the angels” because of a name that he inherited. That “name” stood for the great authority that Jehovah gave him. (See study note on Php 2:9.) Jehovah made Jesus “heir of all things.” (Heb 1:2 and study note) He also appointed his Son-not any of the angels-to be a king, an apostle, and a high priest in the manner of Melchizedek. (Heb 1:8; 3:1; 5:8-10; 7:1-3; compare Re 11:15.) What is more, Jesus alone was offered up as a ransom sacrifice “once for all time.”-Heb 1:3; 9:28.
Hebrews 1:5, 6 - God NEVER said to any of the angels that any of them were His Son and let all God's angels do obeisance or bow down to him- ALL of God's angels..including Michael!!!
LOVED IT, I'VE BEEN SUBSCRIBED FOR A YEAR NOW, YAAY!
Great exGreat explanation acording to the Word of God. Yeshua is God, He cannot be an angle.
Jesus is not Michael the Archangel! Jesus is LORD!
How then is He made kyrios?
Acts 2
36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that 👉God has made him both Lord👈 and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
If He is not Michael than we have another being who stand for us and the battle in heaven was led by this being yet we know that Jesus is the one who defeated satan.
Heb 1:2 but in these days he has spoken to us through his Son. He is the one through whom God created the universe, the one whom God has chosen to possess all things at the end.
I respectfully disagree with your assessment. Jesus is the center of the Bible. He’s active and ever present in scripture. In reference to Daniel 12:1 you say it’s written in Hebrew but this is simply not correct. It’s in Aramaic. I’ll take that as an honest error on your part. On 1 Thess 4 you seem to be expressing a speculative opinion not fact. Jude1:9 please note that angels don’t have the ability to raise the dead. But Michael raises Moses to heaven. Rev 12 calls the angels HIS angels. Meaning the angels belong to Michael.
Jesus Christ is indeed God. He’s not a created being However i believe careful study will reveal that Michael is a representation of Jesus. Especially in military situations
1. Michael means “he who is as God” None other is described as such
2. Jesus has many roles and many names. Many. Michael is only one of them.
3. The angels belong to him Michael (Rev 12:1) and the angels belong to Jesus (Matt 16:27) The angels belong to one and the same person
4. He Michael appears to Joshua (Joshua 5:13-15) and is worshipped, only God accepts worship not angels.
5. Daniel 10 describes him has the echad or preeminent prince and he is your prince. None other is described this way.
6. Daniel 12 says that Michael is the protector and savior of the righteous people. This is the role and work of Jesus Christ himself. None other but him.
7. In Jude Michael resurrects Moses and takes him to heaven. Only God has this ability. Not angels.
8. 1 Thess 4 When Jesus returns he returns with the voice of the archangel
9. What we should learn about him from this is that Jesus is ever active and ever present. His active love was demonstrated even before the cross.
Hey Caleb, which framework (...denomination?) do you most closely adhere/affiliate yourself with?
Non-denominational evangelical Christian.
@@iThinkBiblically Thanks. But you don't believe in OSAS, right? Assuming from former videos I've watched.
@@iThinkBiblically Good answer Caleb!
How do you go from Jesus being Son of God to Jesus is archangel Michael?🤦
Angels can't die for your sins, only the God who came into human flesh could do that
How does God die?
@@coreyevans9543 It was not Jesus God who died, but Jesus human flesh who died.❤
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So a person didn't die?
@@coreyevans9543 Yes , the person Jesus died and arose again, but it doesn`t mead that God died and arose again, is it more clear to understand.
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Isn't the person Jesus also YHWH?
Isn't you trinitarians believed that Jesus is the "Angel of the LORD" as Pastor Mike Winger presented?
If that is so, Jesus is Michael the Archangel. According to Zechariah 3:1,2 and Jude 9 the "Angel of the LORD" was Michael the Archangel.
Hey brother this was a Great Video. But theres one thing u said at the end of your video when u said that its not a salvation issue if someone believes that Michael the archangel is Jesus. I would disagree with u there bro. It is a salvation issue cuz if u believe that Jesus is created and an angel then u dont believe Hes the One True begotten Son of God and that means u dont believe in the True Diety of Jesus Christ. So why would you say its not heresy and not a salavtion issue if a cult takes away from the Diety of who Jesus is and says that Jesus is an angel and not the Son of God? We cant be saved unless we believe that Jesus is the Son of God. Looking forward to your response. Bless u bro.
Obviously if the believe Jesus is a created Angel that is a salvation issue but not all of them believe this. For example, the Geneva Bible notes say that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, so does John Calvin, Jonathan Edwards etc. but the all believe Jesus and s uncreated.
@iThinkBiblically but they all believe Jesus and s created? I think that was a Typo lol. So ur saying those believers believed that Jesus was Michael the Archangel in the Scriptures so everytime the Bible mentions Michael its actually Jesus?
@iThinkBiblically And those Believers although they believed that Michael was Jesus they believed that Jesus wasn't created and he was the eternal one begotten Son of God?
Why does he descend with the voice of an archangel and not the voice of God?
The Lord referred to in Jude 9 is the same Lord in verse 5 who saved the people out of Egypt, (YHWH).
Before the death of the late Queen, Prince Charles was just one of the royal Princes, but all knew he was the heir.The argument that Michael is just one of many Chief princes is specious.
I gave up at this point. I have always found it somewhat ridiculous that many Christians in an attempt to prove that Jesus pre-existed, claim he is the Angel of the Lord in the OT. Apparently he can be the Angel of the Lord but not the archangel.
"Archangel" means "Ruler of the Angels"
"Michael" means "Who is like God"
Does this definition don't fit with Jesus Christ?
Is Jesus NOT the "Ruler of the Angels" ?
Is Jesus NOT "like God" ?
In my bible Hebrews 1: 5 -14 has been given a sub title (by the publisher presumably )...The son superior to Angels. It seems to be pretty clear.
I thinlbibbically, if you bring up 1 thessalonians 4:16, you HAVE TO bring up john 5:25-29 which tells us the VOICE of Jesus raises the dead at the ressurection. Both 1 thes 4:16, and john 5:25-29 are talking about the ressurection and both make a mention of whos VOICE we hear. John 5:25-29 is the voice of the son of man(Jesus) that raises the dead, 1 thes 4:16 claims it is the voice of the archangel. The voice of Jesus gives life, and raises the dead and the voice of the archangel is the voice we hear in 1 thes 4:16. Joshua chapter 5 proves Jesus can be called an archangel/chief angel since in joshua 5:13 Jesus was identified as a captainof the hosts of Yahweh. Scripture even tells us the voice of God himself sounds like a trumpet in rev 1:10, just like it does in 1 thes 4:16. The voice of the archangel is Jesus christ the son of God.
Absolutely true
Compare 1 Thess 4:16 to Matt 24:31. 1 Thessalonians says that Christ comes with three things: A shout, voice of an archangel and the trump of God. Jesus says in Matt 24:31 that when the Son of Man returns he will "send out His angels with a loud trumpet to gather His elect..." This is supported further in Matt 13:39 Where Jesus says that "the harvest is the end of the age and the harvesters are angels." Christ is not an angel. Do angels come with Him at the 2nd coming? Yes. They are with Him but they are not Christ. I hope these verses show the clear distinctions in what happens at His return.
Also Hebrews is unequivocally clear that Jesus is not an angel and we should use the clearer passages of scripture to interpret the obscure ones. Otherwise we have the Bible contradicting itself, which it doesn't.
@@kirky3051if christ is not an angel, who is the Angel of the Lord in the old testament? Of course Jesus christ is not a created angel, Jesus christ is God/son of God, Miachel the archangel is a name title given to Jesus the same way he was called Angel of the Lord, Messiah, Emmanuel, Prince of peace, Son of God, ect… and the word angel in the bible can also mean “messenger”, it does not only imply a created angel.
@@kirky3051Revelations 1:10-11 also tells us the voice of God sounds like a trumpet. “I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
@@kirky3051Whos voice is heard in 1 thessalonians 4:16? The voice of who? And whos voice is the voice that we will hear in john 5:25-29 at the ressurection? Both of those verses are talking of the ressurection, and both tell us the dead rise after hearing the voice, who’s voice gives life? Angels? Or Jesus? The key here is the voice. Not wether angels are present gathering people.
That's a great question, I'm glad you asked. Thank you!
Why are you talking about Jehovah's Witnesses? We are supposed to be worshiping the father.
John 14:6 says, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". This verse appears in the Bible during the Last Supper, when Jesus is speaking to his disciples.
You see Jesus' rulership is for a very short time. We need to learn from Jesus' example here on earth and honor Jesus' commandments so we will have access to Jehovah God, who is the ruler of the universe forever. (that's what John14:6 means). People have lost focus of the big picture. The New Testament is just a record of Jesus' life here on Earth, that's all. So, we need to follow Jesus commandments so we will have an opportunity to live forever.
John 17:3 where Jesus states, “Now this is eternal life; that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.”
Even Jesus Himself agrees that there is only one true God, which is not Himself, since He refers to Himself as separate and distinct from the “true God.”
If we follow Jesus' commandments will have a relationship with both the father and the son.
Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,”
- Even Jesus Christ was a witness!
Most Christian congregations don't have a relationship with God because they have rejected Jesus' New Commandments and The Lord's Prayer (they only worship the son, sports and holidays). And therefore, will not receive everlasting life.
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This is the first and greatest commandment.
1 Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind.
2 Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.
The Lord's Prayer
Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors. And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.
The Lord's Prayer is very clear that the kingdom and the power and the glory belong to the father (not Jesus). Yet, most Christian congregations ignore Jesus' commandments.
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2 John 1:9
Anyone who runs ahead without remaining in the teaching of Christ does not have God. Whoever remains in His teaching has both the Father and the Son.
Matthew 15:8,9
These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commands of men.
Matthew 7:14
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
We are to pray to God, not Jesus - remember The Model Prayer. Pray like this, "Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name." This is what Jesus taught, and the people in false religion hate it!
We are to worship God, not Jesus, according to Jesus' New Commandments and The Model Prayer.
Eph. 4:5 says there is one God and one faith - not many.
There are many religions/faiths.
But only one is right. The entire Bible verifies that!
All the false faiths must come up with beliefs that tickle their ears. (2 Tim. 4:3)
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John 6:43-45
43 In answer Jesus said to them: “Stop murmuring among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him; and I will resurrect him in the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by Jehovah.’ Everyone that has heard from the Father and has learned comes to me.
As these scriptures bring out,
1 - No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him;
2 - 'And they will all be taught by Jehovah.'
3 - Everyone that has heard from the Father and has learned comes to me.
Also, these three scriptures above put an end to the trinity nonsense!
This message is very clear, if you are not being taught by Jehovah God or his organization, you will not receive everlasting life because you do not have access to ~ Jesus Christ ~ the Faithful Witness. Even Jesus was a witness. That means you'll need a Bible with God's name restored in 6,828 places.
Most Christian congregations claim that Jesus is God and will not even acknowledge Jehovah God's name. As a matter of fact, they hate God's name, and they are not going access to Jesus or receive everlasting life.
Also, most Christian congregations refuse to comply with Jesus' New Commandments and The Model Prayer. The most important scriptures of all and they are not going to be saved!!
Get a Bible that has God's name restored - instead of a false religion Bible that has removed Jehovah God's name 6,828 places. The correct English translation for the word JHWH is Jehovah.
All English Bibles say God's name is Jehovah (not Jesus). So the correct English translation for the name JHWH or Yahweh is Jehovah.
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The Chinese word for God is Shangdi
The English word for God is Jehovah
The Old Irish word for God is día
The Italian word for God is Dio
The Japanese word for God is kami
The Korean word for God is ha-na-nim
The Polish word for God is Bóg
The Portuguese word for God is deus
The Russian word for God is Бог
The Spanish word for God is Dios
The Scottish word for God is DOST
We are to sanctify Jehovah God's name - not Jesus' name - (hallowed be thy name) not hate his name and refuse to even acknowledge his name. We are to love your God with all your heart, soul, and mind. Instead, they hate his name!
Psalms 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Psalms 37:20
For the wicked themselves will perish, And the enemies of Jehovah will be like the preciousness of pastures. They must come to their end. In smoke they must come to their end.
2 Timothy 4:4
They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
2 Peter 2:1-2
1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered.
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But for the wicked who rejected Jesus' New Commandments and The Model Prayer and hate God's name and his people and who only worship the son, sports and holidays, their options are wide open.
The wicked are annihilated-snuffed out of conscious existence forever. Biblically, however, hell is a real place of conscious, eternal suffering (Matt. 5:22; 25:41, 46; Jude 1:7; Rev. 14:11; 20:10, 14).
I believe in what the Bible says. How about you?
Since the wicked chose to be an enemy of God, they will defiantly be going to Hades or option A, B, C, D, E, F, etc. I have created a list of options that may help them decide before judgement time arrives, so they should plan in advance due to limited space. Maybe they will grant their request, but most likely they won't. But no sense in not trying!
Below is a list of options for the wicked.
A - Abyss
B - Aionios
C - Eternal Damnation
D - Eternal Punishment
E - Fiery Lake of Burning Sulfur
F - Fire and Brimstone
G - Gehenna
H - Grave
I - Hades
J - Hell
K - Inferno
L - Limbo
M - Lower World
N - Pandemonium
O - Pit
P - Pyr
Q - Shoel
R - Tararus
Their options are wide open, so they should choose carefully.
Matthew 7:14
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Have a nice day!
I am not involved in any religious denomination as living a spiritual life has far exceeded any religion for me ..organized religion complicates the truth sometimes ..I keep it simple ..trust in God, work on myself and help others ..but I do firmly believe Jesus was the Messiah, the Son of the living God almighty..I 100% believe 'Jesus is God' is a lie that just serves Satan ..I have always all my life been given the gift of finding out the truth no matter how painful it is ..I 100% believe that Michael the arcangel is the heavenly name of Jesus ..I believe this for many years now and the proof of that (for myself) lies in Colossians 1:15-21..but hey, all people that are posting in here are all people of faith and trying to do good, which is nice to see in the times we are living in
Hi do you have any recommendations for a good church in Sydney?
So Acts 7:53 refers, "You who received the law delivered by angels and did not keep it."
Why would Jesus (Archangel) who normally would head this mediation return this time only to change his position claiming to be the "I am"?.
"Verily truly a I tell you before Abraham was, Iam." John 8:58.
God's Trinity mystery remains but definitely Jesus is not, was not and never will be the archangel Michael.
Prefix arch means number one/ head and Angel means messenger so Archangel means the number one messenger and in this context we are talking about Gods number one or head messenger that is Christ his only begotten Son who is the Prince of piece and the lead of the army of God and the one who standeth for the children of Daniel’s people. This is my belief
Isaiah 42.13 The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war he shall cry yea roar he shall prevail against his enemies. 1 Corinthians 15.26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Ecclesiastes 9.18. Wisdom is better than the weapons of war.
Hey Doug you're convinced by your own interpretations of the scripture. You need to let the bible speak for itself. Jesus once said, "...all authority has been given me both in heaven also on the earth..." notice no authority was given anyone prior to that time ( when Jesus announced it ) nor after. So how is it that Michael has authority? ie; He and his angels will kick Satan and his demons out of heaven, also Michael will lock Satan and his demons in the abyss. Also Michael will destroy Satan and his demons. Based on your assumptions some angels follow Jesus and some follow Michael. And yet Jesus is the only one whom "ALL" authority was given. So the resurrection will be done by Jesus who is Michael. 1 Thess 4 .16 Think about it man, don't force your ideas on the bible.
Interesting timing of this video. I had only encountered JWs that believed this, but the other day another Christian was trying to sell me on this idea. Immediately I went to the Jude passage
JESUS IS NOT MICHAEL BECAUSE HE IS ON THE EARTH WHILE JESUS IS IN HEAVEN JESUS OPENS THE SCROLL AND IT TELLS WHAT MICHAEL IS DOING AND JESUS IS DOING HIS WRATH ON THE EARTH
ok..question for you: Daniel 12:1-3=> If Mikha’el in this verse is not Our Lord Jesus Christ why angel lie to Daniel and don't mention to Daniel second coming of Christ to tell him when GOD will stand up? (because new testament teach us so)=> John 5:28-29 in Daniel is written when ("archangel") Mikha’el will stand up....? Who is this Mikha’e???the new testament say when GOD will come or stand up etc.etc.the angel says to Daniel when some archangel (created from GOD) will stand up...etc...etc...who is false? Daniel 12:1-3 or John 5:28-29
It doesnt matter. We are to worship only the Father. Psalm 146:3, Matthew 4:10.
NO angels, spirits, humans, or anything else.
@@jdaze1Not only the Father, but the Son as well. For if this wasn't the case... Jesus would have rebuked worship of Himself. But He didn't. John 5:22 For all who honor the Son must honor Him just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son just as they honor the Father doesn't honor the Father who sent Him.
@jdaze1 and how are you going to do that if you don't first acknowledge and worship The Son? No one gets to The Father except through The Son. The Son assumes all power and authority of The Father. The Father & The Son are One.
@@jdaze1 "When he brings the firstborn into the world, he says: Let all the angels of God worship him." Hebrews 1:6
This is a quote from the Greek translation of Psalm 97:7 (Psalm 96 in the Septuagint) and it is about Yahweh/Jehovah. So if Paul applies a psalm about Yahweh/Jehovah to Jesus, what is he trying to tell us?
@@auh2o148 Jesus spoke BY the Spirit not of himself. No one gets to the Father except they be born of the Fathers spirit. You have been led into apostasy by false teachers.
"I even I am YHWH (the Father) beside ME there is NO SAVIOR" Isaiah 43:11, 45:5-7, Deut. 13.
Using Hebrews in this way is not so simple! Jesus is called a Malach in Malachi 3. Sadly the translators call him "the Messenger of the Covenant", if being consistent it should say "the Angel of the Covenant". As much as we could say we shall not worship man, we know the context and allow the worship of Jesus because we don't apply that context to him. Same should be with malachim, we don't worship angels, however there is one who is uniquely uncreated but is a Messenger in a whole different way. If Messiah is a Malach, the I hope that He is the arch (chief) - Malach. Just because of pictures of wings and John Travolta, we must not allow our views of malachim/angelos to be affected by cultural stereotypes. We need to ask where did Paul get the idea of the Head Messenger's voice awakening the dead, surely this is from a first century Jewish view of the Messenger of the LORD being the Logos and that Jesus' voice in John is the one that awakens the dead.
What is the meaning of Word became flesh? Who is the word ? Where was Jesus in the Old Testament ? Who is Jesus? 1 John 5-20/21, Titus 2-11/12. All angels are under Jesus including angel Michael,1 Peter 3-22.
We are not to worship or trust in EITHER an angel or a Son of Man. Only the Father.
"Put not your trust in Princes nor a Son of Man in whom there is NO SALVATION" Psalm 146:3.
Its not up to us to try to figure out things we cant understand. No where are ever told in prophecy nor scripture we are to worship ANYTHING other than the Father ALONE. Matthew 4:10. We are never told to worship a messiah nor an angel, in fact quite the opposite.
Blind guides of the church have led us into apostasy and heresy.
The 1st commandment never changed.
2 Thess. 2:4 warned us about this deception.
Read John 8 where Jesus supposidily claims to be I AM and where was he when he "supposedly" said this. The very place of the 2 Thess 2:4 warning, which was written before the gospel of John.
Revelation tells us about a FALSE IMAGE to the beast. Which means an image created by the editing of text to make us believe a lie. Which is also noted 2 Thess 2:4. You can't read the OT and Psalms then believe in the trinity which was a pagan doctrine that started in Sumeria and Babylon. Its been around in some form from the start of mankind and The tower of Babel. Its not our place to try to understand the mysteries of the Father and his many spirits, but to do what he said. WORSHIP HIM ALONE. Isaiah 43:11, 45:5-7. There are over 6k verses that tell us that HE ALONE IS GOD. He did not lie to ancient Hebrews or israelites for 4k years.
This is the hour the truth is revealed to a deceived world. Clearly noted in Jer. 16:19-21 (his name is YHWH).
Read every sentence in 2 Thess 2:4 VERY CAREFULLY especially verse 13. Also whenever you see "from the beginning" in this verse it means "firstfruits" which has always been more than one person.
We are now living at the end of this age and are the last of firstfruits. Both together are the 1st resurrections of Revelation 20:5. The thousand years is actually 2k years (2 days) apart in Greek as noted in Hosea 6:2-3. We are well into the 3rd day. And the resurrection is the return of the Spirit of Truth/Holiness to regenerate us. Its not about dead physical bodies coming out of literal graves, nor a magical disappearance but a new man a new creation becoming a New Adam. The war in heaven is going on right now, Michael (whoever he he is) has stood up and victory is near. Everyone looking for things that are not going to happen the way we've been led to believe by blind guides and false teachers for over 1800 years. Edited manuscripts didn't help. Rightly divide the truth from lies.
Your understanding is flawed. You obviously do not know who Jesus Christ is. You capitalized "Son" and "Man" in your quote of Psalm 146:3, but my Bible shows "son of man". Remember this was written before Jesus Christ walked on the earth during His 3.5 years of ministry, so of course this wouldn't apply to Him. Although Jesus did refer to Himself as the "son of man", since He was born of a human virgin woman, He was also God in flesh, called the Son of God and is part of the Trinity. Luke 1:35. John 1:49, 5:23, 1 John 4:15.
@@Cmedic57There is no capitol letters in the hebrew bible and the Greek NT was written in all caps. So it doesn't matter how we write it in English.
And just for the record, the virgin daughter of Zion that travails in childbirth with her FIRSTBORN was not a woman named Mary and her firstborn was not a man named Jesus. ALL Clearly defined in the OT. The only miracle birth in the whole bible involving the Fathers incorruptible seed is the NEW Birth which results in a new man a new creation by his Spirit. I'm afraid its you and billions of others who haven't figured out the NT message yet.
Revelation 21:7.
Psalm 146:3
He heals the brokenhearted
And He binds up all their wounds
@@jdaze1 I realize that the original texts in Hebrew and Greek are different to modern translations like the KJV, but my whole point is you were putting emphasis on son of man by capitalizing the S in son and M in man as a clear reference to Jesus Christ. But the fact is Jesus was God in flesh. God created for Himself a body of flesh in a virgin woman which His spirit could inhabit. When Jesus died on the cross as a propitiation for our sins, it was His earthly vessel that died, not God Himself. God is Spirit which is eternal, and is omnipresent. It exists in heaven as the Father, in the Son who now sits at the right hand of the Father in His resurrected glorified body, as the Holy Spirit and in every born again Christian. In fact every human has a spirit, though it is dead and in darkness since we are born in sin and inherited the fallen nature of the first Adam. The spirits of born again Christians have been made alive in Christ...all things have been made new. So only born again believers who are led by the Spirit and not the flesh will be saved.
Is Daniel 12:1 about Jesus 2nd coming?
Daniel 12:1 ties in with Revelation 12:7-13. It refers to the time of trouble before Christ's return. Some think the church will be raptured before this, but that is not supported by scripture, since it talks about the church being overcome by the Beast, and many being killed for the gospel as never before in history. Jesus even said we must expect tribulation, so being raptured before the Great Tribulation has never been part of God's plan. John 15:18-19, Matthew 24:3-44.
Yes, and Michael is another name of Jesus, just like Immanuel. That does not mean, that Jesus is a created angel, but he is the commander of angels. If Michael was a created angel, why would he be mentioned instead of Christ in Daniel 12:1?
Michael is also called our great prince in Daniel 10:21 and 12:1. How could a created angel be our great prince? Our great prince has to be Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, the Son of God, the creator God revealed in the flesh, the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Wonderful Counseller, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
No, it is not. It is about the time where the archangel Michael will be sent to protect the true followers of God from the Tribulation when it begins. Rev. 12 talks about how Satan will come after those ppl first, but he won't be allowed to get to them because they are protected. Michael is the angel who protects the true Church of God. If Christ was truly Michael, the "p" in "prince" would be capitalized like it is in Isa. 9:6 where He is called the "Prince of Peace".
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 I also wonder if Michael will be the one (or directing the angel) who blasts the trumpets, leads the other angels into battle and protects not just the saints, but also the 144,000 Jews under the old covenant who when they see Jesus coming in the clouds will finally see Jesus as their Messiah and become the first fruits of the harvest as they are seen preceding the the saints who are clothed in white. If they are the first fruits, then wouldn't that mean they will be the last ones saved, since they will behold the One they pierced? Revelation 14:1-5. The rest of the world who follow the Beast will have the mark of the Beast, but those whom God marks (including the 144,000) will be protected until they meet and be forever with the Lord. Revelation 7:1-8 These events are fast approaching.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 The Bible wasn't originally written in English. In Hebrew, there are only capital letters, so the translator decides whether or not a letter should be capitalized. And translators can make mistakes.
Blessed is he who is Mathew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness's sake for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
What are the sacred secrets of Kingdom of God which Jesus revealed to his apostles privately, ? @Mat, 13:10-11/ Mark, 4:34, / Mat, 10:26-28,
@Acts, 5:28-32, were the apostles invented these declaration, "The God of our forefathers, rose Jesus from the dead, and exalted him as chief angel,?
These verses will prove that trinity is lie,
This debate will go on until Jesus returns because there’s two different sources of information.
11:51 This content creator claims that Michael could not rebuke, but Jude presents a different perspective. Michael 'dared not' to accuse the devil of blasphemy (krisin blasphēmias)-a serious judgment that even Jesus did not make while on Earth. Therefore, Jude's account does not support your assertion
Jude is referring to a time before Jesus was on earth and therefore before he took on the form of a servant.
@@iThinkBiblically Can you elaborate as I fail to see the point you are making has any relevance. You stated Michael could not rebuke which the text does not say. Neither does the txt say Michael could not accuse the devil of blasphemy. I look forward to your reply to clarify your position.
@@iThinkBiblically everything alright your end? Is one still researching to comment or is the silence confirmation of you running away?
@@jahtruthdefender He can't answer the question because he knows his position is eisegetical at best.
@FishermensCorner
RUclips isn't letting me post under the original discussion.
Not sure if you have seen my response.
Your objection appears to be grounded in Isaiah 43:11:
Isaiah 43:11 (ESV)
"I, I am the Lord,
and besides me there is no savior."
The Hebrew word for "savior" here is "yasha." If I understand correctly, your argument is that since God declares there is no other savior besides Him, anyone referred to as a savior must, therefore, be YHWH. This leads to the conclusion that Jesus, being called a savior, is YHWH.
However, examining other instances of "yasha" in the scriptures, we see:
Judges 3:9
"But when the people of Israel cried out to the Lord, the Lord raised up a savior for the people of Israel, who saved them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb’s younger brother."
Judges 3:15
"Then the people of Israel cried out to the Lord, and the Lord raised up for them a savior, Ehud, the son of Gera, the Benjaminite, a left-handed man. The people of Israel sent tribute by him to Eglon the king of Moab."
The critical point here is that God raises up saviors as His instruments of salvation. Figures such as Moses, Gideon, Othniel, Ehud, Tola (Judges 10), Samson, and ultimately Jesus of Nazareth are all designated as saviors, "yasha," because they are divinely empowered agents through whom God delivers His people. Without God's empowerment, their acts of salvation would not be possible. Thus, while God alone is the ultimate savior, He operates through chosen individuals who, by His empowerment, can be called saviors.
If you disagree with this perspective, the logical implication of your argument would necessitate that figures like Othniel and Ehud, who are also called saviors, must be YHWH. Would you then affirm that these judges are YHWH?
I've just made it so your comments are always approved. Just cause we know each other :)
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Cheers! Didn't know YT had that functionality.
Phillipians 2:10 ..That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; .... Stop helping the world trying to discredit His name ....if Jesus was also called Michael He would mention it in scripture...try doing an exorcism and command the demons to leave in the name of Michael ...
"And in the time that shall _cease_ Mi'ka'el (the one having the likeness of God) the Prince, Great, _standing among_ the sons of your people..."
Daniel 12:1 closely parallels the Michael of Revelation 12:7-13. Both are referring to the "Time of Trouble" before Christ's second coming. Good to compare different translations unless you can read and understand Hebrew and Greek. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, ... rightly dividing the Word of Truth" 2 Timothy 2:15.
@@Cmedic57 Daniel 12:1 refers to the great tribulation, which began in the time of Christ's crucifixion (had begun by the time Jerusalem was besieged) and will continue until immediately before his return.
The name Michael was used because Jesus was preincarnate at the time of Daniel's writing; just as he was preincarnate at the time that the war in heaven mentioned in Revelation took place.
If you understand that angel means messenger and know that Jesus has always existed as God, then you could see that Archangel means King of Angels and Michael is the name of the pre incarnate Christ. Jesus is not a created being.
If Michael was Jesus, taking the form of an angel to bring the angels back, then that's their plan of salvation, not ours humans. The most important thing is that he completed his mission and overcone the world. And we are saved in Jesus's name, not Michael's.
Ithink bibbically. Do you know the difference between the words “blasphemous judgement” and “rebuking” in jude 1:9?
Why would he then say "the Lord rebuke you"? Is Michael saying that he cannot bring a blasphemous judgement but the Lord can?
Todo indica que Miguel -o “san Miguel”, según algunas religiones- es un nombre que da la Biblia a Jesús antes y después de su vida en la Tierra. Las Escrituras dicen que Miguel discutió con Satanás después de la muerte de Moisés y que ayudó a un ángel a entregar al profeta Daniel un mensaje de Dios (Daniel 10:13, 21; Judas 9). Miguel defiende la autoridad de Jehová y lucha contra los enemigos de Dios. Por ello es digno de llevar dicho nombre, que significa “¿Quién Es Como Dios?” (Daniel 12:1; Revelación [Apocalipsis] 12:7).
Miguel es “el arcángel” (Judas 9). El título arcángel significa “jefe de los ángeles” y aparece solamente en dos versículos de la Biblia. En ambos casos, la palabra arcángel está en singular, lo que indica que solo un ángel lleva tal título. Hablando de Jesús ya resucitado, uno de esos versículos dice que “el Señor mismo descenderá del cielo con una llamada imperativa, con voz de arcángel” (1 Tesalonicenses 4:16). Según este pasaje, Jesús tiene voz de arcángel. Por lo tanto, se puede concluir que Jesús mismo es Miguel, el arcángel.
Miguel está al mando de un ejército celestial. “Miguel y sus ángeles combatieron con el dragón”, es decir, el Diablo (Revelación 12:7). Tiene gran autoridad en los cielos. De hecho, la Biblia lo llama “uno de los príncipes prominentes” y “el gran príncipe” (Daniel 10:13, 21; 12:1). Estos títulos lo identifican como “el comandante del ejército celestial”. Así califica a Miguel el experto en el Nuevo Testamento David Aune.
La Biblia menciona solo un nombre más al referirse a alguien que tiene autoridad sobre el ejército de ángeles. Habla de “la revelación del Señor Jesús desde el cielo con sus poderosos ángeles en fuego llameante” (2 Tesalonicenses 1:7, 8; Mateo 16:27). Además, 1 Pedro 3:21, 22 dice que Jesús “siguió su camino al cielo; y ángeles y autoridades y poderes fueron sujetados a él”. No tendría sentido que Dios nombrara a Jesús y a Miguel como comandantes rivales de los ángeles. Es más razonable concluir que los nombres Jesús y Miguel se refieren a la misma persona.
Miguel “se pondrá de pie” en un “tiempo de angustia” sin precedentes (Daniel 12:1). En el libro de Daniel, la expresión “ponerse de pie” se suele usar para hablar de un rey que emprende una acción de especial importancia (Daniel 11:2-4, 21). Jesucristo, llamado “La Palabra de Dios”, tomará acción como el “Rey de reyes” para destruir a todos los enemigos de Dios y proteger a su pueblo (Revelación 19:11-16). Lo hará durante un tiempo de “gran tribulación [o angustia] como la cual no ha sucedido una desde el principio del mundo hasta ahora” (Mateo 24:21, 42).
By being one of many chief commanders it means there is one for each universe. He Jesus/Michael is THE chief commander of OUR universe.
NOTHING in any of these contexts has ever made me think for a minute that Jesus was Michael, and I just don't see how ANYONE who calls himself a true theologian would. You'd almost have to not understand English grammar at all in order to reach such a conclusion. Baffling. Another reason I trust ONLY the priesthood of the believer, and view ALL "theologians" with a healthy amount of doubt.
I am HAPPY TO BE A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST. OF COURSE, JESUS IS MICHAEL THE ARCH-ANGEL-the angel of the Lord (Revelation 12; Daniel 10; Exodus 3:1-5)!
Great video, interesting topic.
Jesus is called our Captain in other ways also. Heb 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, (((to make the captain of their salvation))) perfect through sufferings.
How is it not a salvation issue when those who believe this believe in a false Christ just as warned about in 2 Corinthians 11. No matter whether they be reformers are not
Can you provide a source that say John Calvin believes that?
No!! Jesus is Jesus, and Michael is Michael the arc angel. There are 7 arc angel's and 3 of their names are in the bible. Jesus is not a angel. He is God. People need to pick up their own bible and actually read it from start to finish. Being lazy and expecting others to read it for you is no excuse when you find yourself to be deceived. If that strategy would not work on an exam, then it will certaibly not work in Gods court. Ignorance is not an excuse.
All references to Michael the Archangel from a Seventh-Day Adventist, point of view, is a title like Jesus is the Lamb or Jesus is a door, Jesus is a vine... even Paul admits that the full mystery of Christ was hidden. LDS believe Jesus is a created thing, Seventh-day Adventist do not.
The Bible refers to Jesus as these things, the lamb, the door, the vine etc. But never as an archangel.
@@kirky3051 Galatians 4:14 says otherwise
Paul says the mystery of Christ was hidden from this world, and it has been hidden from this world because (1) this world is cut off from God(Gen. 3:22-24), (2) this world is deceived by the devil(2 Cor. 4:4, Eph. 2:2, Rev. 12:9), and (3) it doesn't believe anything God says(2 Cor. 4:4), no matter how plain and easy to understand His doctrines are. There is nothing mysterious about Christ's origins. He is the Word. He is God. He is not Michael.
@theeternalsbeliever1779 .... ah, Jesus literally eluded the devil hence his birth. For get that obvious part, here's one that eludes you: The Prophecy of the Messiah. It turned outto be two "Prophets" in 1 person. Before Jesus came the Israelites were waiting for the Messiah Ben Yosef and the Messiah Ben David... however what we found out is Jesus represents Messiah Ben Yosef and his first coming and then when he returns it would be the Messiah Ben David... so yeah, the way the prophecy was fulfilled was definitely a mystery.... as for Michael, it's a simple matter of character typology and recognizing the power of god. Strangely enough, Angel is going to return an exact vengeance, which is the character type of Messiah Ben David... literally a lamb nor is he literally an angel, but the power of Vengeance when he returns in his second coming is described by the character of Michael the Archangel.
@@FishermensCorner the great mystery of Christ was Him ushering in the new body of Christ...church body, under the dispensation of grace.