Lots of commenters are grossly underestimating the performance of the 5 N, wrongly comparing it to a Model 3 Performance (much smaller), thinking some better brakes will fix it and the lighter weight will beat it everywhere. And that a Plaid with ceramics is in a different league altogether. Pikes Peak gives us material for comparison. The 5 N and MS Plaid driven by the same driver, Pobst, did a similar time up Pikes peak sub 10 min, both fully racecar modified but with stock drivetrain and cooling. Similar weight, 350hp more and more aerodynamic shape and being more expensive didn't help the Plaid. While even a Model S is still significantly more cramped in the interior. No superiority there. With a WRC driver the 5 N was 25s faster again and it's not sure a plaid would have supported his pace. Model 3 fully modified (slick tires, suspension, aftermarket cooling, full cf bodywork further lightening, spoilers the whole shabang) did 11:06 in 2022, while a STOCK 5N on street(!) tyres (Yokohama V107) did a certified out of event 10:33 this year. However weather was bad losing about a minute for the Tesla, however being full racecar it should have been ahead a full minute to even be level with the 5 N. While the '24 M3P is more powerful on paper, the M3P racecar had all possible aftermarket cooling, so adding power but with a stock cooling that cannot support it, it wouldn't materialise in a faster time and probably be slower, just like any other track test shows lasting more than a single lap. Tesla clearly isn't better, rather the opposite.
Tesla is much better value for money. How much does Tesla cost vs this Hyundai? Just imagine what Tesla can offer for 20-30k more... so this is bs comparison. Also, manual shifting for electric car is the most retarded thing ever invented. Ever.
In addition to the above, the host here is wrong on calling the car overpriced. As a good engineer, I always listen to mechanics and he has some valid points and right to his opinions, but he clearly hasn't understood the design brief or the actual performance of this car (already adressed). Hint: it wasn't range on the open road. Another hint: it is track range, and currently there is no EV even remotely in the same price bracket that has the track endurance and actual track range of this true performance EV. This on top of offering something much less measurable but also very important to drivers: fun, feedback and emotion. It also beats the price referenced Model 3 Performance in another area (and also the more expensive Model S). It is a LOT bigger interior wise, in automotive terms 2 maybe even 3 sizes bigger. And a lot more pracitcal as a hatchback and with a sliding and adjustable reclining angle rear split seat. In combining these two opposing properties, true performance EV and daily usability in providing excellent space/practicality and also comfort, it is completely unique and its also very competitive in performance/practicality compared to similar interior size ICE Performance SUV's, whatever their price. I.e. it's a bargain for those that get it and want it for that.
I drove both cars and the 5N is insane, its perfection, the handling is awesome for the weight, the brakes are solid, the acceleration is unreal. Can't wait to get mine... If you watch the 5N videos from Nürburgring, in stock condition, you can see that it will outperform current Porsches, driving somewhere in the 997 GT3 range, maybe even a bit faster. And that's pretty much unreal for a 2.2 ton SUV with lots of space. You also need to consider that, while being more suitable of every day use, it also is easier to drive with the weight distribution and the electric differentials, especially when you have a wet surface.
What an engineering marvel. This is probably most astonishing car you've ever reviewed and you did a great job. I hope one day you can review an Elantra N.
What? He did a mediocre review of the 5N. He just doesn’t get it. It’s an everyday enthusiast EV that M3P can’t compete with, yet he thinks it can. He’s never taken the 5N around a track. Then he’d know how far ahead the 5N is from the Tesla.
27:40 He called the handling of the 5N just above average? That’s a ridiculous claim. It is in the top two best handling BEV out there, the other being the Porsche Taycan Turbo S which costs over $200k. I’ve driven both on track. No Tesla can compete on the track. This where mechanics who are not enthusiast shouldn’t comment about handling of a track car.
Thanks, glad I'm not the only one who notices the volume difference between this channel and other channels. I pointed it out on another video, and they said nothing changed in editing, but they would look into it.
This time you got it a bit wrong I have to say, this car is way faster than a Tesla on track, it’s faster and have brakes and cooling systems that lasts many laps, Tesla will overheat and the brakes will fade fast.
@@yusufcanaktas6929 please provide proof, track lap times are needed. Around the ring vs the Euro battery this is much faster. Do we have any US track times with professional drivers for both? The m3p is extremely underbraked so I highly doubt this claim.
@@N8Marrufo I meant with better brakes as an upgrade. You can check out Laguna Seca times of unplugged performance with the new model 3. Although I5N is a very good car, 400kg is a lot of weight when throwing it around the corners
$68,000!!! Wow! It's the same price as a new Tacoma TRD Pro! 😱 This car is all about the visceral experience. I like it. A real sports enthusiasts car and big enough to share it with your friends. Drive it responsibly please. BTW, I can't wait to see your review on the electric Charger when/if it's ever released. It has a whole sound system on the back to make it sound like a big bad Hemi! That will probly be your most comical review ever. I will definitely have my bowl of popcorn ready for that one! Lol! 🤣🥰
You're wrong about the range. I've had this exact car well over 300 miles on a charge. On track it will drain fast, but so will an EV. Also its significantly quicker, better handling, better braking and safer than any Tesla. Not to mention build quality, reliability and after sales support and parts.
This channel just took the top spot as my favorite RUclips channel. This is the type of review I really appreciate. The videos on the Ionic 6 and Subaru Outback were also great. Thank you!
This car is made to do laps after laps on the track while the model 3 p can maybe do 1 before the brakes catch on fire and it overheats. So point being this is a much better track car than the tesla.
in its stock form, yes. The problem is that it weights 800 lbs. more that the Tesla and is at least a generation behind in most areas. If one wants a limited-usefulness EV for track work, then this is the easiest path, but the aftermarket will likely address the Tesla's deficiencies as a track car pretty quickly. And that 800 lb issue isn't going to go away.
@@dangrassnot really. The aftermarket can’t do anything about the Tesla batteries overheating on track. Misha Charoudin took the M3P to the Nurburgring. The battery was overheating halfway through the lap and by the end was discharging so slowly.
Also model 3 p is a light sedan which is advantageous to track. Model y p can't track which is same segment with 5N. Hyundai can also v2l and fast charge.
10:59 “ This car stops like it’s on rails” this saying is only used when describing a car’s turning ability. As in “ This car TURNS like it’s on rails. To say something stops like it’s on rails would mean that it sucks at stopping since being on a rail means your wheels keep sliding even though the brakes are on. It’s part of the reason trains take a long time to stop.
Lol, Model 3 Performance is not faster than Ioniq 5N. Have you watch Misha Charoudin's video driving the M3P and Ioniq 5N on Nurburgring? You can tell he is impressed with the latter's performance
@@HyperVanilo that's all i care about. nobody in their right mind racing to 150 on the street. and tracks are far away. plus it's $13k cheaper. and i could get a used M3P for about $30k. thats huge
A performance electric car that has adequate brakes? Someone deserves a ribbon at Hyundai. Great review, such an interesting vehicle and looking forward to what they learn from this model and pass onto the economy options. I'm hoping to see your views on the Bronco Sport soon.
@@MavadoKen It also does up to 0.6G of Regen in specific modes so the brakes can last a really long time as they won't heat up anywhere near as much having a good amount of the force being motor drag rather than the friction brakes.
I can't be the only person who hates the huge wheel trend. I've had 20s on a vehicle before, but the tire was 33" tall, so it had 6.5" of sidewall. 21" wheels just means it will handle harsher and be more susceptible to damage from potholes and road debris and tires are more expensive. If I bought one, one of the first things I would do is replace those 21s with 20s or 19s if they cleared the brakes. The wheels on both my Forester XT and my SO's Crosstrek have been downsized from 18s to 17s and the ride is so much better and tires are $30-50 cheaper each.
I'm not a fan of the trend as to me the cars don't look any better or worse with a larger wheel, but you lose range and it seems a shape put time and effort into efficiency and the put large wheels on the car to negate it.
The stylists are running the asylum. Design studies have had big wheel for a long time. Technology has advanced to the point where sidewalls "can" be very small. They don't have to be. I'm with you it's a silly trend.
The Model 3 Performance is a great highway pull machine, good value there. This car was engineered properly and won't overheat after 45 seconds on a track like the Model 3 Performance will. You buy this car because you want to use the performance without the car destroying or nerfing itself. I commend Hyundai for taking it seriously, all the cooling and braking systems and all.
Veloster N was first US N car.2019...the first N car for Hyundai was 2017 the i30N in Europe. There was even a Kona N here in 2022 and 2023. I own a Kona N and love it!😢
I like the honest, factual takes. And you let the viewer know what you like and don't like. I'm seeing too many people dumping on EV's. I think the smart thing is let the market sort itself out. It's great to have deadlines. But some folks hybrids just might be the way to go. Because not every apartment has access to an EV charger. And not every city is building street charging. Stay safe, and healthy and keep up the good work.
@@leftcoaster67 Umm have you not noticed the glaring omissions in this review. I generally like Ahmed for everyday practical car reviews. But the 5N is out of his league. He just doesn’t get the tremendous engineering that went into the 5N from vehicle dynamics, battery management, seamless integration of regen/friction brakes for track driving. It can drift like a madman and realistically simulate an ICE car.
Its because the model3 performance is the only one thats comparable at the moment. Maybe the refreshed model y performance will be comparable when its out. But for now, its either these 2 or you have to start going into the 100k range to find other cars to compare it to
@@sungbaek3526 and that's the best compliment really, because while the Model Y is comparable in size, it's quite an unfavourable comparison "performance" wise and unless tesla throws much better hardware at the Y compared to the 3, not very likely as such (track) performance isn't part of the brand dna and cost saving performance is, it will remain so...
29:29 Tesla M3P is not faster. You can claim it is faster by 0.1 second to 60mph, which is essentially meaningless. But around a track 5N will beat the M3P every time.
0:00 It's a cool looking car, more funky than any Tesla. I would definitely put it before a model 3 as it stand out more in the crowd than every second EV which is usually a Tesla. And I'm sure generations to come from hyundai will only get better.
29:12 I don’t get this guy’s reasoning about the price? He called the 5N a small hatch back? The 5N has same interior space as a BMW X5 SUV. There’s no BEV with 650hp that can track all day yet also be a comfortable daily driver. I’ve driven most BEV out there barring the Rimac hyper car. There’s nothing like the 5N out there. There’s no Tesla that competes with the 5N. This obsession comparing the much smaller and lighter sedan like M3P that can’t be tracked to the 5N is nonsensical.
Keep in mind that a lot of these vehicles will always be plugged in at night so they don't have to worry about cold batteries because they will be warmed before you leave, and also vehicles that part at Apartments a lot of them park underground in warm garages. So the cars that will be parked outside in the extreme cold without being plugged in is really small. Coolant is also a lot easier to deal with in terms of routing it and maintaining a charge in the system versus refrigerant that is under pressure and does leak out over time.
@@NorthernContrarian You don't need a garage to have a charger and you got that backwards. Most DO have a place to charge over-night. There are far more houses than there is apartments/condo buildings. Furthermore with a lot of vehicles supporting L2 or L3 charging you can go from low to 80% in 15 - 30 minutes now so it's a non-issue for long range folks any longer.
people talking about this car being expensive are WRONG model 3 performance(even the „new” one) does not belong on the track due to a lack of proper suspension and overheating brakes - so it kind of isn't a competitor, more of a less refined "go fast straight" version, yes, with better range and as for the germans(since there is no sporty cars in this segment from US other than questionable tesla) - any electric BMW, even the new 5 series in the M trim do handle significantly worse while being equally or (with i5) even more expensive. also, this car is literally THE most thrilling ev you can find, so there you have it. btw, I'm not defending Hyundai - this is still a car with a target audience of 2,5 people. but man is it beautiful in it with all proper track and drift stuff this provides on top of being actually an SUV with huge backseat. also this could potentially be a step in a right direction and an example for other manufacturers to follow wich will benefit enthusiasts!
@@arseniy7464 well, I think they got the adaptive suspension right on the m3p, in that they didn't have one before that lol, but, good as it is, it just isn't good enough. Plus, the i6n is rumored to be even more powerful than the i5n.
a better street car than can be made into a competitive track car with relatively inexpensive mods. Of course there's really nothing that can be done to the Hyundai to address the 800 lb weight issue or the inherent inefficiency.
I mean I think most everything is expensive for what you get frankly so this seems about what I'd expect it to be. I think it ought to be able to be $10k cheaper, but that's probably me being allergic to depreciation. Point taken though and I agree, but mainly because this is one of the first electric cars I've seen that has SOUL and PIZAZZ. Yea it's niche-y, but I love what Hyundai are doing right now with all their cars as someone who wants something different. I could actually see myself owning this EV eventually, and that's the first sub-$100k new EV I can say that for. Audi RS E-tron being the other. I'm not going to be dropping $65k+ on a new EV anytime soon, but a used one that's depreciated 75%? Different story. Mainly because at current EV depreciation rates I'll be able to pick one up that's 5 years old for 25% of the original price (only partially kidding). That's a different proposition entirely in my opinion.
@@EShelby2127 Name another 650 hp BEV or ICE super car at this price that can be repeatedly tracked, realistically simulate an engaging ICE sports car, and also be a roomy daily driver?
The artificial gearbox is daft but so much fun, even has simulated torque blips when you change gear. Unlike any Tesla this thing can rip around a track, drift and drag.
I love your channel but you are wrong about the refreshed model 3 performance. The interior is much nicer now, has another screen in the back, for the rear passengers, and gives you more than 300 miles. If you qualify for the 7500 tax credit, you can get one for around 47500, which is about 20000 less. Keep up the great work, but please check your recording volume, as when it goes to a commercial, the volume increases to a much higher level. This only happens with your videos.
I love your real word take on this. I hope more technicians start to actually understand the new technology in EVs with its pros and cons and start having serious discussions as you do. Do a model 3 performance 2024 next!
I think you should do an actual range test rather than driving in a sporty manner. In Eco mode the N gets about 250 miles per charge or 3 miles per KWH. This is quite easy to achieve and with some mixed city driving you can get more. On those tires and wheels thats pretty incredible. As far as price, a blue model 3 performance is $58,000 comparably as the N comes with a home charger and adding Teslas is $450 more. $10,000 for a much better interior, wheels, suspension, modes, etc isn’t really unreasonable. Especially considering the N actually has a lot more interior space and usability. The correct comparison in my view would be with the Y. If Hyundai makes an Ioniq 6 N, this would be a more reasonable comparison with the 3 Performance. Finally in Performance, you can watch the Carwow drag race if you want.
The reason why under the hood is full of parts is that Hyundai wants to use of the shelve parts as much as possible to keep cost down by scale. And no the electric car is not more complicated then an ice car.
Thank you for this review. You were respectful and thorough (and fair). For me, this looks like a stop-gap. Hyundai seems to be trying to "jazz up" the current Ioniq line until they bring out their successors. Your comments about the range of the thing--which bespeaks low efficiency--and the "ancient" design ethic that requires a lot of tubing and shunts for the different cooling and heating modes. As for the fake noise, well... you were probably being too generous. I suspect that this will get as tiring, as quickly, as the poor range.
I wait when a review for the Kia Niro will be added to these episodes. The Niro that I drive is a 2018 version it is a hybrid and I like it, it is functional and has a great range made to be a practical car. I just wish it could have been a slightly taller by another extra inch. I like the reviews on this channel and they are well thought of. Thank you.
Enjoy the videos . Youre not only a great technician but a quality human being, based on many comments youve made regarding honesty, integrity and how to treat others, especially family (like the Son gifting his Father a Lexus). OK, not understanding the fan boys of this vehicle. Close to 70 gs , really? 200 miles and probably a lot less if tracked!? For 30 gs less get a Civic SI, or a Corolla Gt, forget Tesla. And the silly noises? Its like kids when i was young putting playing cards on their bikes to make noise as they hit the spokes. This would be a fun and cool vehicle in the 30g range.
Sat on backseat before and that speaker imitating engine notes felt really cool. Probably will get a regular ionic if I were to buy one, but N is still pretty nice
I have been driving a 2023 Ioniq 5 SEL AWD (cartoon version LOL) for a year now and love it! I enjoyed watching your review of the N model although I think I personally would get tired of the gimmicky fake sounds and fake shifts within 6 months. I prefer the greater range and comfort of the other versions in the long run. I agree that some of the "traditions" that have carried over from ICE cars need to be updated with newer technology practices similar to Tesla's 48 volt battery systems (in place of the older 12 volt systems). I think Hyundai/KIA is just using a lot of off the shelf parts that they also use on their ICE vehicles. Since Tesla is an EV only production they have the luxury of focusing on current technology. That said, there is no reason that the other (ICE) manufacturers couldn't move to a 48 volt architecture to make there cars more efficient except of course maybe the costs involved to do so. An interesting fact I recently found out is that the electric motors used in Hyundai/KIA are actually made in Germany by a company called Vitesco Technologies (Schaeffler Group). Being an electrical engineer I can attest that their manufacturing process and technology of electric motors and drive systems are amazing!
That's a great review, and I appreciate your practical perspective. Since it seems unlikely that they'll significantly lower the price, they'll probably need to offer a very aggressive lease deal to make this car more appealing.
Big fan of your videos! Do you plan to review the new Ford Explorer 2025? Please do, I’m so waiting for it but won’t make a move until I hear your views on it.
Ahmed, I i love your videos but... I dont know if it's a RUclips quirk or your recording, but the audio level seems to be lower than most others. I have to turn the volume up several clicks just to get a normal level. Then when the ads break in, the volume level blows me out of the room.
Great review, love the videos of under the hood and the suspension! Keep it up. Your conclusion is missing the point of this car. Akin to reviewing a Ferrari and complaining about the price…other than that, love your stuff.
hmm...a Tesla Model 3 weights just about the same as a BMW M car....they are pretty well known for destroying wheels and tires. This is not a Tesla issue, but a low profile tire for the street issue.
@@dangrass yes i agree but why put such low profile tires on cars that weight so much with cheap rims. mercedes is notorious for this . had a customer who broke 9 tires and rims in one year . thank god he had wheel insurance from the dealer. runflat tires are trash too.
@@peterpeter5666 The problem is the cheaply made wheels mainly, coupled with the super maximized diameters and widths. Some properly forged wheels aren't getting broken except in the most extreme circumstances; yea that's excessive for average cars but when they put Lamborghini-esque wheel/tire sidewall/diameter ratios on average cars that get beat on you end up asking for it if potholes are around unfortunately.
@@clinttube so true . im seeing hyundai now with 45 profile tires which i will never understand.We had corvettes and camaros in the 80-90 with 50 profile tires and they handled rerally well and NEVER broke a rim !
Thank you so much for your awesome reviews. Do you think you could do a Mitsubishi SUV perhaps The Outlander or Eclipse crossover thank you and have a blessed weekend
I chatted with a livery driver with a Cadillac EV. He said there were things he loves about the car, including the torque, but on the other hand, he has needed to take the vehicle in for warranty repairs a few times. He has mixed feelings about using it for his business. He said the taxi and limousine commission is pushing EVs and may make them mandatory to maintain a TLC license. Yet when I take Ubers, most drivers have late model gas (or presumably hybrid) Toyotas - they love them for their business.
1:50 the N (and 2025 regular Ioniq 5) actually only uses conventional (pink) coolant. I'm not sure how the cooling is routed, it may have the same basic layout as the '22-24 Ioniq 5, but there is no LCC or separate reservoir. The second tank shown in the video with a blue cap is washer fluid. Having to deal with LCC changes in my '22 is my chief complaint about the car, a definite improvement for the new ones.
The problem with this reviewer is that he’s not an enthusiast driver. If he were, he’d never think the M3P is comparable to the 5N. They are leagues apart. The M3P isn’t a track car and can’t last on a track for more than a lap. It will over heat its battery and derate power and will burn its brakes. It’s not an engaging EV to drive. The 5N is the first of its kind. No one has an EV like the 5N. The amount of engineering that went into the 5N is quite staggering. Too bad this mechanic doesn’t realize this. He’s a Tesla fan boy. That octovalve he gushes over is a money pit if it fails. Btw, he called the handling of the 5N just above average? LMAOF! It is the top two best handling BEV out there, the other being the Porsche Taycan Turbo S which costs over $200k.
If you think he's a Tesla fanboy then you obviously haven't seen his reviews of Teslas. Besides the octovalve, he's quite critical of Teslas and does not recommend someone purchase it. Instead of assuming that anything negative about the Ioniq 5N must be from Tesla fanboys, recognize that one can have objective opinions about the engineering design. Two coolant reservoir and loop? That's wasteful and poor engineering. You'll improve as a person once you get rid of your bad habit of dismissing legitimate criticism by assuming someone else formed that opinion only because they're a blind fanboy. Do better.
@@Narcissist86 The “better” engineering in the Tesla doesn’t result in a better track car or a more engaging car, which the 5N is meant to be. You can throw whatever engineering you want but if it doesn’t get you the result you’re seeking, it’s a waste of engineering. How does the octovalve, for example, get you a better track car or an engaging car to drive? It doesn’t. We are looking at the 5N first its intended purpose. The Tesla fails as a track car and as an engaging enthusiast car. I’d hate to see the cost of replacing an octovalve by Tesla. He literally gushes over it like the greatest feet of engineering for EVs. 😂
@@Narcissist86 Btw, Ahmed is a great mechanic but he’s not an enthusiast driver who tracks any of his cars. I like him as a reviewer of non-enthusiast cars and trucks like the vehicles mothers and housewives like to drive. He’s missed the entire point of the 5N. I’m doing better now. Are you happy? 😉
My local Hyundai dealer still has an addendum on the one they have in their showroom. Logical thing if you're shopping at the Hyundai dealer, buy an Elantra N and lease a regular Ioniq 5 for the short term.
I wonder how all those hoses will age....Id still buy one if I could afford it. The exterior grows on me more every time i see it. Hyundai is killing it!
The EU version has a sun-roof as an optional extra - my daughter insisted we get it on ours... my better half made me promise never to have my daughter in the car when I go on the German Autobahn to see what it really can do.
Good review. What is becoming pretty obvious is that designing an EV that is good at one thing isn't that hard, but designing one that is good at many is very difficult. It seems that the real indicator of engineering acumen in EV design is weight and efficiency. What's clear here is that while Hyundai has created an EV that works better than most as a track car, the fact that it's 800 lbs heavier than the Tesla and only 60% as efficient are indications of over-optimization for one design objective at the expense of everything else. Your description of the heating/cooling systems shows an engineering approach where one just adds whatever is needed to solve the problem du jour without regard to cost, weight, or efficiency. As an off the shelf EV track car the Hyundai is great, but I suspect that with a bit of aftermarket attention the fundamentally better Tesla platform (double A arms rather than Macpherson struts...800 lbs less mass) will ultimately be the superior car for track use. Of course, as a car that one might buy this is pretty easy. The Tesla is a beautifully engineered EV that offers outstanding performance without sacrificing much of anything....at a far lower price and with far greater efficiency. Sadly it doesn't make fake IC noises though.
You're forgetting this isn't model 3 size. It's the interior size of a ICE X5M and EV Q8 e-tron, both slower yet 400 and 900lbs heavier. This car isn't heavy for what it is. The shape was never going to be efficient, same goes for the regular version. But it looks great and performance range is actually good thanks to massive regen due to that cooling and not to forget 800V. Tesla tech is mostly cost saving... Modified as race cars but with driveline tech as stock, the 5N beat the ModelS plaid in pikes peak. Model 3 not even close. And for the large majority the Tesla is better transport, but in the future when all EVs will be tech appliances and the market snap out of their obsession with range with most drive less then 40miles/day 360 days per year and for the 5 remaining days charging infrastructure will be a LOT better, this will stand out and fetch much better money than the sea of driving ipad appliances for sale...
A model 3 might get ahead by a millisecond in a straight line but once the first corner comes the Tesla will fall behind, its brakes will start degrading and will have to end up pulling out of the race! Ive had my 5n for a couple of weeks now and i can confirm, The 5n is a beast and there isn't anything on the market yet that is can be or should be compared to other than supercars 3 times its price. The 5n is a bargain for the $ it costs!
A lot of people are not driving the Elantra n, but I see a crap ton of people driving the plain old Elantra which leaves me scratching my head. Because those things are just absolutely terrible and they sound like a lawn mower@@RONderluck
@@RONderluckit only has 140 horse lawn mower engine and it sounds like an engine that belongs in a tractor well I guess it's because it's the only car you're going to be able to find for only $23,000 this day and age
@@whitepaperkat67 You can buy a brand new Chevy Trax for $20k or a Mitsubishi Mirage for cheaper. So it’s not the only car for under $23k. I drive a TRX, a 22 Challenger HC WB and I’m picking up an Ioniq 5 N tomorrow.
If EVs didn't depreciate like cell phones, and I HAD to get an EV, this would be the one. Maybe, just maybe, I might be interested in this, as a second car. I'd pry off the N badge, and have a good sleeper. Since I'm old, I'd likely swap out the seats, so maybe I couldn't get it. It does put the funk, back in functional. Good job Hyundai.
Ref depreciation, there will be relative few around of these, in 10 years when people finally understand enthusiast EVs and snap out of their obsession with range with most drive less then 40miles/day 360 days per year and for the 5 remaining days charging infrastructure will be a LOT better, this will stand out and fetch much better money than the sea of driving ipad appliances for sale...
If this car had a German name people wouldn't speak about $$ point. Aka BMW I8. This is a car for enthusiasts, not a Corolla buyer. Getting one! Hope I can get a good deal in Christmas.
REALLY appreciated the first 1/3 of the video - where you were talking/explaining about how some of the systems of the car worked! thank you. (and don't listen to people complaining about the sound - it was PERFECTLY fine. right in line with ALL OTHER videos on youtube, IMHO)
The seats are not too serious. They are absolutely perfect. And the valves being oversized and ancient is on purpose too - those are the components, aside from brakes and suspension, that are stressed the most in full track attack.
Lots of commenters are grossly underestimating the performance of the 5 N, wrongly comparing it to a Model 3 Performance (much smaller), thinking some better brakes will fix it and the lighter weight will beat it everywhere. And that a Plaid with ceramics is in a different league altogether.
Pikes Peak gives us material for comparison. The 5 N and MS Plaid driven by the same driver, Pobst, did a similar time up Pikes peak sub 10 min, both fully racecar modified but with stock drivetrain and cooling. Similar weight, 350hp more and more aerodynamic shape and being more expensive didn't help the Plaid. While even a Model S is still significantly more cramped in the interior. No superiority there. With a WRC driver the 5 N was 25s faster again and it's not sure a plaid would have supported his pace.
Model 3 fully modified (slick tires, suspension, aftermarket cooling, full cf bodywork further lightening, spoilers the whole shabang) did 11:06 in 2022, while a STOCK 5N on street(!) tyres (Yokohama V107) did a certified out of event 10:33 this year. However weather was bad losing about a minute for the Tesla, however being full racecar it should have been ahead a full minute to even be level with the 5 N.
While the '24 M3P is more powerful on paper, the M3P racecar had all possible aftermarket cooling, so adding power but with a stock cooling that cannot support it, it wouldn't materialise in a faster time and probably be slower, just like any other track test shows lasting more than a single lap.
Tesla clearly isn't better, rather the opposite.
Tesla is much better value for money. How much does Tesla cost vs this Hyundai?
Just imagine what Tesla can offer for 20-30k more... so this is bs comparison.
Also, manual shifting for electric car is the most retarded thing ever invented. Ever.
Excellent comment and backed up with facts. Same the Tesla zealots and musk sycophants won't believe you.
In addition to the above, the host here is wrong on calling the car overpriced. As a good engineer, I always listen to mechanics and he has some valid points and right to his opinions, but he clearly hasn't understood the design brief or the actual performance of this car (already adressed). Hint: it wasn't range on the open road. Another hint: it is track range, and currently there is no EV even remotely in the same price bracket that has the track endurance and actual track range of this true performance EV. This on top of offering something much less measurable but also very important to drivers: fun, feedback and emotion.
It also beats the price referenced Model 3 Performance in another area (and also the more expensive Model S). It is a LOT bigger interior wise, in automotive terms 2 maybe even 3 sizes bigger. And a lot more pracitcal as a hatchback and with a sliding and adjustable reclining angle rear split seat. In combining these two opposing properties, true performance EV and daily usability in providing excellent space/practicality and also comfort, it is completely unique and its also very competitive in performance/practicality compared to similar interior size ICE Performance SUV's, whatever their price. I.e. it's a bargain for those that get it and want it for that.
Tesla has cooling problem, Ionic 5N can handle some laps
I drove both cars and the 5N is insane, its perfection, the handling is awesome for the weight, the brakes are solid, the acceleration is unreal. Can't wait to get mine...
If you watch the 5N videos from Nürburgring, in stock condition, you can see that it will outperform current Porsches, driving somewhere in the 997 GT3 range, maybe even a bit faster. And that's pretty much unreal for a 2.2 ton SUV with lots of space.
You also need to consider that, while being more suitable of every day use, it also is easier to drive with the weight distribution and the electric differentials, especially when you have a wet surface.
What an engineering marvel. This is probably most astonishing car you've ever reviewed and you did a great job. I hope one day you can review an Elantra N.
Watch his Cybertruck review.
What? He did a mediocre review of the 5N. He just doesn’t get it. It’s an everyday enthusiast EV that M3P can’t compete with, yet he thinks it can. He’s never taken the 5N around a track. Then he’d know how far ahead the 5N is from the Tesla.
27:40 He called the handling of the 5N just above average? That’s a ridiculous claim. It is in the top two best handling BEV out there, the other being the Porsche Taycan Turbo S which costs over $200k. I’ve driven both on track. No Tesla can compete on the track. This where mechanics who are not enthusiast shouldn’t comment about handling of a track car.
Yep, he appreciates the car but still doesn't really get it on several key points
He tends to be very unbiased and picky. If it had a Toyota or Lexus logo, his opinion would drastically change.
@@ALBA_809 If it were a Toyota or Lexus, he’d be on on his knees bowing as if the almighty laid his hand on the vehicle. Scotty Kilmer 2.0.
Mechanics are mechanics.
From handling point of view I would add also Polestar 2 BST, although it also cannot match 5N heat management and will heat up much faster.
Like your reviews a lot. Keep it up. Also, I noticed that sound levels on your videos are significantly lower than other RUclips videos. Thanks
Thanks, glad I'm not the only one who notices the volume difference between this channel and other channels. I pointed it out on another video, and they said nothing changed in editing, but they would look into it.
This time you got it a bit wrong I have to say, this car is way faster than a Tesla on track, it’s faster and have brakes and cooling systems that lasts many laps, Tesla will overheat and the brakes will fade fast.
an upgraded model 3 perfomance (US battery) is faster on a track than this, very similar acceleration numbers but Tesla is 400kg less.
@@yusufcanaktas6929 please provide proof, track lap times are needed. Around the ring vs the Euro battery this is much faster. Do we have any US track times with professional drivers for both? The m3p is extremely underbraked so I highly doubt this claim.
@@N8Marrufo I meant with better brakes as an upgrade. You can check out Laguna Seca times of unplugged performance with the new model 3. Although I5N is a very good car, 400kg is a lot of weight when throwing it around the corners
When did you do a track comparison?😂
We can end this argument with the fact that the Tesla is boring, and this is a whole lot of fun
$68,000!!! Wow! It's the same price as a new Tacoma TRD Pro! 😱
This car is all about the visceral experience. I like it. A real sports enthusiasts car and big enough to share it with your friends. Drive it responsibly please.
BTW, I can't wait to see your review on the electric Charger when/if it's ever released. It has a whole sound system on the back to make it sound like a big bad Hemi! That will probly be your most comical review ever. I will definitely have my bowl of popcorn ready for that one! Lol! 🤣🥰
You're wrong about the range. I've had this exact car well over 300 miles on a charge. On track it will drain fast, but so will an EV. Also its significantly quicker, better handling, better braking and safer than any Tesla. Not to mention build quality, reliability and after sales support and parts.
That's the highest range number I've seen. What sort of climate were you driving in?
In your dreams
You DO NOT have the "N" model then. There's no way you're getting anywhere close 300 in this car. How do I know? I own one.
This channel just took the top spot as my favorite RUclips channel. This is the type of review I really appreciate. The videos on the Ionic 6 and Subaru Outback were also great. Thank you!
thats a beautiful car. i like the retro/cyberpunk look of it ... the headlights and backlights
This car is made to do laps after laps on the track while the model 3 p can maybe do 1 before the brakes catch on fire and it overheats. So point being this is a much better track car than the tesla.
in its stock form, yes. The problem is that it weights 800 lbs. more that the Tesla and is at least a generation behind in most areas. If one wants a limited-usefulness EV for track work, then this is the easiest path, but the aftermarket will likely address the Tesla's deficiencies as a track car pretty quickly. And that 800 lb issue isn't going to go away.
@@dangrassnot really. The aftermarket can’t do anything about the Tesla batteries overheating on track. Misha Charoudin took the M3P to the Nurburgring. The battery was overheating halfway through the lap and by the end was discharging so slowly.
@@OmarZ77 That's the European spec using LG. The US uses Panasonic and is has better performance.
@@ericg6084 Hyundai using only LG and SK (cofy of LG) tracks good. Find a problem from Tesla and Panasonic that can't prove.
Also model 3 p is a light sedan which is advantageous to track. Model y p can't track which is same segment with 5N. Hyundai can also v2l and fast charge.
You really make some of the best car reviews across the web! Congrats for another good one. Wishing you continued success
I think Hyundai and Kia have very nice looking vehicles. Thanks for the review
10:59 “ This car stops like it’s on rails” this saying is only used when describing a car’s turning ability. As in “ This car TURNS like it’s on rails. To say something stops like it’s on rails would mean that it sucks at stopping since being on a rail means your wheels keep sliding even though the brakes are on. It’s part of the reason trains take a long time to stop.
Agreed - 'Stops on a dime' would be appropriate catch phrase
Lol, Model 3 Performance is not faster than Ioniq 5N. Have you watch Misha Charoudin's video driving the M3P and Ioniq 5N on Nurburgring? You can tell he is impressed with the latter's performance
0-60 the M3P is faster
@@johnphillips7894
Only in acceleration
@@HyperVanilo that's all i care about. nobody in their right mind racing to 150 on the street. and tracks are far away. plus it's $13k cheaper. and i could get a used M3P for about $30k. thats huge
@@johnphillips7894
Suit yourself and stop liking your own comment, you’re embarrassing yourself
@@HyperVanilo stop telling me what to do, dad. im getting the party started. you cant afford either so go that way ➡️
A performance electric car that has adequate brakes? Someone deserves a ribbon at Hyundai. Great review, such an interesting vehicle and looking forward to what they learn from this model and pass onto the economy options. I'm hoping to see your views on the Bronco Sport soon.
@@MavadoKen It also does up to 0.6G of Regen in specific modes so the brakes can last a really long time as they won't heat up anywhere near as much having a good amount of the force being motor drag rather than the friction brakes.
It’s more than adequate. 5N can lap the Nurburgring twice without brake fade.
I can't be the only person who hates the huge wheel trend. I've had 20s on a vehicle before, but the tire was 33" tall, so it had 6.5" of sidewall. 21" wheels just means it will handle harsher and be more susceptible to damage from potholes and road debris and tires are more expensive. If I bought one, one of the first things I would do is replace those 21s with 20s or 19s if they cleared the brakes. The wheels on both my Forester XT and my SO's Crosstrek have been downsized from 18s to 17s and the ride is so much better and tires are $30-50 cheaper each.
I'm not a fan of the trend as to me the cars don't look any better or worse with a larger wheel, but you lose range and it seems a shape put time and effort into efficiency and the put large wheels on the car to negate it.
Yes, and also the black wheel trend, so sombre, I'm tired of all the doom and gloom going around.
Really depends on the application. Larger wheels have many advantages. One is you can then use larger brake rotors.
@@MolishiousIt doesn’t.
The stylists are running the asylum. Design studies have had big wheel for a long time. Technology has advanced to the point where sidewalls "can" be very small. They don't have to be. I'm with you it's a silly trend.
Sound feedback is quite useful on track for lap speed consistency.
Great video as usual. I follow the electric car technology a certain amount and I learned more from this video than I have anywhere else.
The Model 3 Performance is a great highway pull machine, good value there. This car was engineered properly and won't overheat after 45 seconds on a track like the Model 3 Performance will. You buy this car because you want to use the performance without the car destroying or nerfing itself. I commend Hyundai for taking it seriously, all the cooling and braking systems and all.
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This N is a prelude to the N Vision 74 which will be the pinnacle of Hyundai design and technology.
I can't wait 😀
@@_Jeandel_just make it EV and 4 wheel drive...
Veloster N was first US N car.2019...the first N car for Hyundai was 2017 the i30N in Europe. There was even a Kona N here in 2022 and 2023. I own a Kona N and love it!😢
I like the honest, factual takes. And you let the viewer know what you like and don't like. I'm seeing too many people dumping on EV's. I think the smart thing is let the market sort itself out. It's great to have deadlines. But some folks hybrids just might be the way to go. Because not every apartment has access to an EV charger. And not every city is building street charging. Stay safe, and healthy and keep up the good work.
@@leftcoaster67 Umm have you not noticed the glaring omissions in this review. I generally like Ahmed for everyday practical car reviews. But the 5N is out of his league. He just doesn’t get the tremendous engineering that went into the 5N from vehicle dynamics, battery management, seamless integration of regen/friction brakes for track driving. It can drift like a madman and realistically simulate an ICE car.
Why do folks keep comparing this to a Model 3 when it should be compared to a Model Y?
Its because the model3 performance is the only one thats comparable at the moment. Maybe the refreshed model y performance will be comparable when its out. But for now, its either these 2 or you have to start going into the 100k range to find other cars to compare it to
@@sungbaek3526 and that's the best compliment really, because while the Model Y is comparable in size, it's quite an unfavourable comparison "performance" wise and unless tesla throws much better hardware at the Y compared to the 3, not very likely as such (track) performance isn't part of the brand dna and cost saving performance is, it will remain so...
I appreciate your honest reviews from your view point. Lots of value here! Thanks!
29:29 Tesla M3P is not faster. You can claim it is faster by 0.1 second to 60mph, which is essentially meaningless. But around a track 5N will beat the M3P every time.
0:00 It's a cool looking car, more funky than any Tesla. I would definitely put it before a model 3 as it stand out more in the crowd than every second EV which is usually a Tesla.
And I'm sure generations to come from hyundai will only get better.
Thanks for the review, when you have a chance can you do a review on honda civic hybrid thank you
29:12 I don’t get this guy’s reasoning about the price? He called the 5N a small hatch back? The 5N has same interior space as a BMW X5 SUV. There’s no BEV with 650hp that can track all day yet also be a comfortable daily driver. I’ve driven most BEV out there barring the Rimac hyper car. There’s nothing like the 5N out there. There’s no Tesla that competes with the 5N. This obsession comparing the much smaller and lighter sedan like M3P that can’t be tracked to the 5N is nonsensical.
Amen to that!
you seem to be fussin' about the 5N ... did you buy one? ... if not then your comments are moot
@@keithkornatoski9162 I’m waiting for mine. 😉
this is one nice and affordable toy to own. fake sounds definitely a huge plus and will excite driver mentally. nice job Hyundai.
"toy" is the operative term.
Keep in mind that a lot of these vehicles will always be plugged in at night so they don't have to worry about cold batteries because they will be warmed before you leave, and also vehicles that part at Apartments a lot of them park underground in warm garages. So the cars that will be parked outside in the extreme cold without being plugged in is really small. Coolant is also a lot easier to deal with in terms of routing it and maintaining a charge in the system versus refrigerant that is under pressure and does leak out over time.
Reality is, the vast majority don't have the ability to charge at night nor do they have a garage to keep their car in.
@@NorthernContrarian You don't need a garage to have a charger and you got that backwards. Most DO have a place to charge over-night. There are far more houses than there is apartments/condo buildings. Furthermore with a lot of vehicles supporting L2 or L3 charging you can go from low to 80% in 15 - 30 minutes now so it's a non-issue for long range folks any longer.
@@NorthernContrarian These cars will not be bought by the vast majority - it will mainly be people with money.
Tesla m3p is not track focused, its thermal management cannot handle extended track sessions, but most people don’t actually do track sessions.
But that’s what 5N and all N cars are intended for in addition to winding public roads. Tesla no so much 😂
Then why they put performance. Rather buy m3 or ioniq 6.
people talking about this car being expensive are WRONG
model 3 performance(even the „new” one) does not belong on the track due to a lack of proper suspension and overheating brakes - so it kind of isn't a competitor, more of a less refined "go fast straight" version, yes, with better range
and as for the germans(since there is no sporty cars in this segment from US other than questionable tesla) - any electric BMW, even the new 5 series in the M trim do handle significantly worse while being equally or (with i5) even more expensive. also, this car is literally THE most thrilling ev you can find, so there you have it.
btw, I'm not defending Hyundai - this is still a car with a target audience of 2,5 people. but man is it beautiful in it with all proper track and drift stuff this provides on top of being actually an SUV with huge backseat. also this could potentially be a step in a right direction and an example for other manufacturers to follow wich will benefit enthusiasts!
@@arseniy7464 well, I think they got the adaptive suspension right on the m3p, in that they didn't have one before that lol, but, good as it is, it just isn't good enough.
Plus, the i6n is rumored to be even more powerful than the i5n.
$68.000 IS a lot of money. Period. $1,554.99 a month, PLUS insurance on this for 5 years...
a better street car than can be made into a competitive track car with relatively inexpensive mods. Of course there's really nothing that can be done to the Hyundai to address the 800 lb weight issue or the inherent inefficiency.
I mean I think most everything is expensive for what you get frankly so this seems about what I'd expect it to be. I think it ought to be able to be $10k cheaper, but that's probably me being allergic to depreciation. Point taken though and I agree, but mainly because this is one of the first electric cars I've seen that has SOUL and PIZAZZ. Yea it's niche-y, but I love what Hyundai are doing right now with all their cars as someone who wants something different.
I could actually see myself owning this EV eventually, and that's the first sub-$100k new EV I can say that for. Audi RS E-tron being the other. I'm not going to be dropping $65k+ on a new EV anytime soon, but a used one that's depreciated 75%? Different story. Mainly because at current EV depreciation rates I'll be able to pick one up that's 5 years old for 25% of the original price (only partially kidding). That's a different proposition entirely in my opinion.
@@EShelby2127 Name another 650 hp BEV or ICE super car at this price that can be repeatedly tracked, realistically simulate an engaging ICE sports car, and also be a roomy daily driver?
Happy to see all the subs and views AMD gets! Nice guys do win!!
Hope to see a Rivian on your lift someday soon.
All of us been waiting on this one
Great review, lots of information
22:55 Gotta love that fake down shifting sound ....LOL!
The artificial gearbox is daft but so much fun, even has simulated torque blips when you change gear. Unlike any Tesla this thing can rip around a track, drift and drag.
I love your channel but you are wrong about the refreshed model 3 performance. The interior is much nicer now, has another screen in the back, for the rear passengers, and gives you more than 300 miles. If you qualify for the 7500 tax credit, you can get one for around 47500, which is about 20000 less. Keep up the great work, but please check your recording volume, as when it goes to a commercial, the volume increases to a much higher level. This only happens with your videos.
Please go away and worship musk somewhere else.
Actually I love this configuration because it’s larger equipment and you can access it.
I love your real word take on this. I hope more technicians start to actually understand the new technology in EVs with its pros and cons and start having serious discussions as you do.
Do a model 3 performance 2024 next!
Ahmed, you’re not a mechanic you’re a master technician
Agreed
What's the difference?
@@omarpulido8502 mechanics are parts changers
@@omarpulido8502mechanics are part changers
Agreed
I think you should do an actual range test rather than driving in a sporty manner. In Eco mode the N gets about 250 miles per charge or 3 miles per KWH. This is quite easy to achieve and with some mixed city driving you can get more. On those tires and wheels thats pretty incredible. As far as price, a blue model 3 performance is $58,000 comparably as the N comes with a home charger and adding Teslas is $450 more. $10,000 for a much better interior, wheels, suspension, modes, etc isn’t really unreasonable. Especially considering the N actually has a lot more interior space and usability. The correct comparison in my view would be with the Y. If Hyundai makes an Ioniq 6 N, this would be a more reasonable comparison with the 3 Performance. Finally in Performance, you can watch the Carwow drag race if you want.
This review feels like a normal person reviewing a sports car.
Love this channel. Can you review the Elantra N???
That Ignition sound effect is definitely for the win!
“Absolutely Magnificent Review, Quite Informative and Rather insightful
The reason why under the hood is full of parts is that Hyundai wants to use of the shelve parts as much as possible to keep cost down by scale.
And no the electric car is not more complicated then an ice car.
>And no the electric car is not more complicated then an ice car.
Correct, they're through and through useless :)
Keep up the great review AMD!👍👌
Please review 2025 Honda Civic hybrid Hatchback
It looks fantastic
Thank you for this review. You were respectful and thorough (and fair). For me, this looks like a stop-gap. Hyundai seems to be trying to "jazz up" the current Ioniq line until they bring out their successors. Your comments about the range of the thing--which bespeaks low efficiency--and the "ancient" design ethic that requires a lot of tubing and shunts for the different cooling and heating modes.
As for the fake noise, well... you were probably being too generous. I suspect that this will get as tiring, as quickly, as the poor range.
I wait when a review for the Kia Niro will be added to these episodes. The Niro that I drive is a 2018 version it is a hybrid and I like it, it is functional and has a great range made to be a practical car. I just wish it could have been a slightly taller by another extra inch. I like the reviews on this channel and they are well thought of. Thank you.
Enjoy the videos . Youre not only a great technician but a quality human being, based on many comments youve made regarding honesty, integrity and how to treat others, especially family (like the Son gifting his Father a Lexus). OK, not understanding the fan boys of this vehicle. Close to 70 gs , really? 200 miles and probably a lot less if tracked!? For 30 gs less get a Civic SI, or a Corolla Gt, forget Tesla. And the silly noises? Its like kids when i was young putting playing cards on their bikes to make noise as they hit the spokes. This would be a fun and cool vehicle in the 30g range.
waited all my life for this review.
@@looneyyang1326 me too. What a letdown
Sat on backseat before and that speaker imitating engine notes felt really cool. Probably will get a regular ionic if I were to buy one, but N is still pretty nice
I have been driving a 2023 Ioniq 5 SEL AWD (cartoon version LOL) for a year now and love it! I enjoyed watching your review of the N model although I think I personally would get tired of the gimmicky fake sounds and fake shifts within 6 months. I prefer the greater range and comfort of the other versions in the long run.
I agree that some of the "traditions" that have carried over from ICE cars need to be updated with newer technology practices similar to Tesla's 48 volt battery systems (in place of the older 12 volt systems). I think Hyundai/KIA is just using a lot of off the shelf parts that they also use on their ICE vehicles. Since Tesla is an EV only production they have the luxury of focusing on current technology. That said, there is no reason that the other (ICE) manufacturers couldn't move to a 48 volt architecture to make there cars more efficient except of course maybe the costs involved to do so.
An interesting fact I recently found out is that the electric motors used in Hyundai/KIA are actually made in Germany by a company called Vitesco Technologies (Schaeffler Group). Being an electrical engineer I can attest that their manufacturing process and technology of electric motors and drive systems are amazing!
You can turn the fake sounds and shifts off.
That's a great review, and I appreciate your practical perspective. Since it seems unlikely that they'll significantly lower the price, they'll probably need to offer a very aggressive lease deal to make this car more appealing.
Big fan of your videos! Do you plan to review the new Ford Explorer 2025? Please do, I’m so waiting for it but won’t make a move until I hear your views on it.
Tesla M3 Performance battery/brake overheats after 2-3mins.
Please review the GTI
Could you turn up volume on your videos? We get BLASTED by youtube commercials. I really like your show.
Ever heard of ad blockers?
@@chuckwalla2967 yes
I've been waiting for this review.
Ahmed, I i love your videos but... I dont know if it's a RUclips quirk or your recording, but the audio level seems to be lower than most others. I have to turn the volume up several clicks just to get a normal level. Then when the ads break in, the volume level blows me out of the room.
A great review - thank you.
Great review, love the videos of under the hood and the suspension! Keep it up. Your conclusion is missing the point of this car. Akin to reviewing a Ferrari and complaining about the price…other than that, love your stuff.
Hey man you said cool things about this little Hyundai,that was cool from you.. This time wasn't a Toyota (objective) 👍
one thing im seeing alot on electric cars especially tesla are aluminum wheel cracking due to stupid tire sizes and weight of vehicles.
hmm...a Tesla Model 3 weights just about the same as a BMW M car....they are pretty well known for destroying wheels and tires. This is not a Tesla issue, but a low profile tire for the street issue.
@@dangrass yes i agree but why put such low profile tires on cars that weight so much with cheap rims. mercedes is notorious for this . had a customer who broke 9 tires and rims in one year . thank god he had wheel insurance from the dealer. runflat tires are trash too.
@@peterpeter5666 The problem is the cheaply made wheels mainly, coupled with the super maximized diameters and widths. Some properly forged wheels aren't getting broken except in the most extreme circumstances; yea that's excessive for average cars but when they put Lamborghini-esque wheel/tire sidewall/diameter ratios on average cars that get beat on you end up asking for it if potholes are around unfortunately.
@@clinttube so true . im seeing hyundai now with 45 profile tires which i will never understand.We had corvettes and camaros in the 80-90 with 50 profile tires and they handled rerally well and NEVER broke a rim !
The wheels on the 5N are forged.
Thank you so much for your awesome reviews. Do you think you could do a Mitsubishi SUV perhaps The Outlander or Eclipse crossover thank you and have a blessed weekend
That car is some tribute to Lacia Delta Integrale
Homage to 1970s Hyundai Pony which is designed by the same guy that designed the Delta, Scirooco, DMC12, etc.. 😊
Hyundai has been on a role designing iconic cars lately.
Interesting vehicle. Your reviews are excellent.
Love it 🔥🔥
I think every car you need to see if the trunk can fit a body. You know... for camping reasons lol
I chatted with a livery driver with a Cadillac EV. He said there were things he loves about the car, including the torque, but on the other hand, he has needed to take the vehicle in for warranty repairs a few times. He has mixed feelings about using it for his business. He said the taxi and limousine commission is pushing EVs and may make them mandatory to maintain a TLC license. Yet when I take Ubers, most drivers have late model gas (or presumably hybrid) Toyotas - they love them for their business.
1:50 the N (and 2025 regular Ioniq 5) actually only uses conventional (pink) coolant. I'm not sure how the cooling is routed, it may have the same basic layout as the '22-24 Ioniq 5, but there is no LCC or separate reservoir. The second tank shown in the video with a blue cap is washer fluid. Having to deal with LCC changes in my '22 is my chief complaint about the car, a definite improvement for the new ones.
The problem with this reviewer is that he’s not an enthusiast driver. If he were, he’d never think the M3P is comparable to the 5N. They are leagues apart. The M3P isn’t a track car and can’t last on a track for more than a lap. It will over heat its battery and derate power and will burn its brakes. It’s not an engaging EV to drive. The 5N is the first of its kind. No one has an EV like the 5N. The amount of engineering that went into the 5N is quite staggering. Too bad this mechanic doesn’t realize this. He’s a Tesla fan boy. That octovalve he gushes over is a money pit if it fails.
Btw, he called the handling of the 5N just above average? LMAOF! It is the top two best handling BEV out there, the other being the Porsche Taycan Turbo S which costs over $200k.
If you think he's a Tesla fanboy then you obviously haven't seen his reviews of Teslas. Besides the octovalve, he's quite critical of Teslas and does not recommend someone purchase it.
Instead of assuming that anything negative about the Ioniq 5N must be from Tesla fanboys, recognize that one can have objective opinions about the engineering design. Two coolant reservoir and loop? That's wasteful and poor engineering.
You'll improve as a person once you get rid of your bad habit of dismissing legitimate criticism by assuming someone else formed that opinion only because they're a blind fanboy. Do better.
@@Narcissist86 The “better” engineering in the Tesla doesn’t result in a better track car or a more engaging car, which the 5N is meant to be. You can throw whatever engineering you want but if it doesn’t get you the result you’re seeking, it’s a waste of engineering. How does the octovalve, for example, get you a better track car or an engaging car to drive? It doesn’t. We are looking at the 5N first its intended purpose. The Tesla fails as a track car and as an engaging enthusiast car. I’d hate to see the cost of replacing an octovalve by Tesla. He literally gushes over it like the greatest feet of engineering for EVs. 😂
@@Narcissist86 Btw, Ahmed is a great mechanic but he’s not an enthusiast driver who tracks any of his cars. I like him as a reviewer of non-enthusiast cars and trucks like the vehicles mothers and housewives like to drive. He’s missed the entire point of the 5N. I’m doing better now. Are you happy? 😉
@@JohnLee-db9zt I accept your apology. 😉
@@Narcissist86 None given. 😉
Hello, Amd if you reading this comment. Can you please review the nissan frontier and your opionion on how it stacks againt the new tacoma. Thank you.
My local Hyundai dealer still has an addendum on the one they have in their showroom. Logical thing if you're shopping at the Hyundai dealer, buy an Elantra N and lease a regular Ioniq 5 for the short term.
I wonder how all those hoses will age....Id still buy one if I could afford it. The exterior grows on me more every time i see it. Hyundai is killing it!
By the time these hoses get brittle, the battery has already aged out.
@@heiner71 If it was a Tesla Battery I'd say not a chance, but I don't know anything about these.
The EU version has a sun-roof as an optional extra - my daughter insisted we get it on ours... my better half made me promise never to have my daughter in the car when I go on the German Autobahn to see what it really can do.
Good review. What is becoming pretty obvious is that designing an EV that is good at one thing isn't that hard, but designing one that is good at many is very difficult. It seems that the real indicator of engineering acumen in EV design is weight and efficiency. What's clear here is that while Hyundai has created an EV that works better than most as a track car, the fact that it's 800 lbs heavier than the Tesla and only 60% as efficient are indications of over-optimization for one design objective at the expense of everything else. Your description of the heating/cooling systems shows an engineering approach where one just adds whatever is needed to solve the problem du jour without regard to cost, weight, or efficiency.
As an off the shelf EV track car the Hyundai is great, but I suspect that with a bit of aftermarket attention the fundamentally better Tesla platform (double A arms rather than Macpherson struts...800 lbs less mass) will ultimately be the superior car for track use.
Of course, as a car that one might buy this is pretty easy. The Tesla is a beautifully engineered EV that offers outstanding performance without sacrificing much of anything....at a far lower price and with far greater efficiency. Sadly it doesn't make fake IC noises though.
You're forgetting this isn't model 3 size. It's the interior size of a ICE X5M and EV Q8 e-tron, both slower yet 400 and 900lbs heavier. This car isn't heavy for what it is. The shape was never going to be efficient, same goes for the regular version. But it looks great and performance range is actually good thanks to massive regen due to that cooling and not to forget 800V. Tesla tech is mostly cost saving...
Modified as race cars but with driveline tech as stock, the 5N beat the ModelS plaid in pikes peak. Model 3 not even close.
And for the large majority the Tesla is better transport, but in the future when all EVs will be tech appliances and the market snap out of their obsession with range with most drive less then 40miles/day 360 days per year and for the 5 remaining days charging infrastructure will be a LOT better, this will stand out and fetch much better money than the sea of driving ipad appliances for sale...
I love this car!
25:13 “ I do not like green eggs and ham, I do not like here or there “ 😂😂😂😂 you do sound like Dr Seuss.
Thank you….. great info..
My dream car
Just realized, a good source of revenue in the future for techs is to learn automotive HVAC..
We're gonna have a huge resurgence of experienced tradies by 2050, more than I think people realize.
Could you do one for the Elantra N? I know you grouped it into the regular Elantra, but I'd love for a standalone assessment.
AMD Can you do a review of Golf R?
A model 3 might get ahead by a millisecond in a straight line but once the first corner comes the Tesla will fall behind, its brakes will start degrading and will have to end up pulling out of the race!
Ive had my 5n for a couple of weeks now and i can confirm, The 5n is a beast and there isn't anything on the market yet that is can be or should be compared to other than supercars 3 times its price. The 5n is a bargain for the $ it costs!
I have the 24 elantra n and i think the seats are very comfortable
Only children drive the Elantra N as my son owns one as well. Don’t over rev it as you’ll void the warranty.
A lot of people are not driving the Elantra n, but I see a crap ton of people driving the plain old Elantra which leaves me scratching my head. Because those things are just absolutely terrible and they sound like a lawn mower@@RONderluck
@@RONderluckit only has 140 horse lawn mower engine and it sounds like an engine that belongs in a tractor well I guess it's because it's the only car you're going to be able to find for only $23,000 this day and age
@@whitepaperkat67 You can buy a brand new Chevy Trax for $20k or a Mitsubishi Mirage for cheaper. So it’s not the only car for under $23k. I drive a TRX, a 22 Challenger HC WB and I’m picking up an Ioniq 5 N tomorrow.
@@RONderluck oh
GJ!
Pls consider reviewing the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and the Nissan Sentra
Also a car with a Chinese platform like Volvo or Lotus
Appreciated!
Why? Haven’t seen a Mitsubishi on the road in 15 years. I live in California. Presume they sell them in Japan.
If EVs didn't depreciate like cell phones, and I HAD to get an EV, this would be the one. Maybe, just maybe, I might be interested in this, as a second car. I'd pry off the N badge, and have a good sleeper. Since I'm old, I'd likely swap out the seats, so maybe I couldn't get it. It does put the funk, back in functional. Good job Hyundai.
Ref depreciation, there will be relative few around of these, in 10 years when people finally understand enthusiast EVs and snap out of their obsession with range with most drive less then 40miles/day 360 days per year and for the 5 remaining days charging infrastructure will be a LOT better, this will stand out and fetch much better money than the sea of driving ipad appliances for sale...
If this car had a German name people wouldn't speak about $$ point. Aka BMW I8. This is a car for enthusiasts, not a Corolla buyer. Getting one! Hope I can get a good deal in Christmas.
REALLY appreciated the first 1/3 of the video - where you were talking/explaining about how some of the systems of the car worked! thank you.
(and don't listen to people complaining about the sound - it was PERFECTLY fine. right in line with ALL OTHER videos on youtube, IMHO)
Please do a Review on the 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Such an amazing vehicle for various types of consumers.
POS Nissan rebadged junk.
This a great car for an enthusiast with money. I would love one but will probably never be able to afford it...
Love the orange.
Let’s see an Elantra N review!
The color looks awesome! The price? well that is open to discussion 😂
The music always reminds me of Nights in White Satin
The seats are not too serious. They are absolutely perfect. And the valves being oversized and ancient is on purpose too - those are the components, aside from brakes and suspension, that are stressed the most in full track attack.
Valves? I don't think this has an engine with valves.
@@jamesmedina2062 ... coolant flow control valves, my guy.
@@spdcrzy ok thx
If I bring you a 2008 Civic Si and/or Nissan Xterra can you review it? Love your channel would be an honor.
I've got an 09 Si
Fun car. Bought it in 2011
No lol why would he review some uninteresting cars no one will care about?
@@trstnhn he doesn't review old vehicles, I never expect to see my car on his channel.