You have 227k on a 2006 Honda Ridgeline ? I had one for 7 years without any problem. I bought a travel trailer and the Ridgeline's wheelbase was long enough to control the trailer. I trailer my Ridgeline on a F-150.
I was a over twenty-year Toyota truck owner both Tacoma and Tundra and I needed the size when I was young to haul and tow heavy loads. My Wife was always afraid to drive the big trucks at least for a small woman it was big and when I was gone it was an issue. We are 75 years young and felt we needed something she could drive and we don't haul or tow heavy loads. We wanted the new safety features i.e. lane tracer etc. We looked at the new Tacomas first then we looked and drove everything else in mid-size pickup and the Ridgeline she just loved since it drove like a car. We bought the 2024 Ridgeline Black Edition and so far love it. I was one of those guys that always put down the "toy trucks" but now I am a believer at the stage of my life. I always thought the tailgate opening was a gimmick but it is one of the best features and we use it more than the other drop down opening. Outstanding review as always but the Black Edition would have shown all the bells and whistles available. I was a mechanic (old school) for cars, trucks, heavy equipment both gas and diesel as well as a shop owner for a few years. The trade wasn't very well respected as some of the other trades which never sat well with me. I am happy to see that skilled, knowledgeable and articulate technicians like yourself are doing RUclips videos to change that frame of mind. Many folks do not realize the complexity of auto maintenance and repair. You have to be an expert in so many different fields mechanical, electrical, hydraulic, air conditioning, structural and computers. To be a Master Technician like yourself takes many hours of study and hands on experience along with cuts, bruises and burns. The training and learning never stops since the manufacturers are changing design, functionality and parts almost every year. Bless you Sir and please keep up the good work.
I understand the toy truck mentality. I just sold my 2007 Ram Cummins pre-def and dpf. I sold it for $6K less than I bought it in late '06. Our 2005 Pilot is now our truck and we just bought a slightly used Honda Passport for long trips.
@@ADUSN Even SG doesn't critique the clamps used throughout and heat exchanger loop quality. This guy is goes pretty deep sometimes. His analysis of cylinder deactivation, which sounds like an automotive "free lunch" on its face, is spot on.
I had that engine in a Honda Odyssey. It was very reliable, and mine went 350,000 miles before I traded it. Oil changes every 6000 miles using Mobil 1, and then every 100,000 miles it needed spark plugs, water pump, and timing belt. 10/10 would buy another vehicle that had the same engine.
@@guyletourneau6167 Hey, I had a Falcon and it did well on oil. The vehicle which ate oil was a 1985 Toyota Hilux which consumed 2.5 qts of oil every 3K oil change. Two other friends bought one within months of mine. Same deal. Toyota did a consumption test and the factory deemed it "within specs." During that period Toyota had a run of engines where the rings didn't exert enough pressure against the cylinder walls thus letting oil into the combustion chambers. No blue smoke.
I’m on my second Ridgeline (‘23 RTL-e) and love it. As many folks have commented, the tailgate does lock. Also, you don’t have to hit the door handle button to lock the doors, you just have to walk away and all doors (including the tailgate) lock. I very much like the old school engine. Reliable as any vehicle ever made, all mechanics can easily work on it, parts can be bought anywhere and runs on regular gas. I test drove pretty much all the competitors and ended up right back where I started with my second Ridgeline, Honda has made something very special and unique. Oh, don’t forget about the resale value on these, spectacular (and insurance is cheap).
I share your enthusiasm. I bought a 23 black edition last year and the family and I drive all over the place in this thing and it’s really spacious so nobody is cramped. The Car Care Nut said something about VCM cylinder concerns- do you happen to know if the 2023 has this or is it just the 2024 since the Car Care Nut was reviewing a 24 not a 23?
@@emilcasas2707 2023 has VCM also. I've debated buying a defeater (S-VCM) but haven't done so yet. the reviews I've found are half saying it's great and the other half saying VCM is "completely harmless so why bother?" I did manage to permanently defeat the auto start/stop though. On the RTL-E (& BE) there is a button to push that enables the onboard inverter in the bed. Doing so also turns off the auto/start stop. I simply wedged a small plastic piece into the button area to keep the button permanently pressed in. Honda allows for this feature to be on while the engine is running so there is no damage to the vehicle. Bonus is that it also keeps the stupid amber light from coming on in the dash.
I own a 2014 Odyssey with over 200k and VCM. My mechanic serviced the cylinder carbon/oil buildup issue that he said these engines ultimately suffer from. He said the only reason that the issue didn’t happen sooner was because I was so religious about 3k oil changes/synthetic oil. He did say that the issue would eventually return…usually warrants engine replacement etc. depending on the severity of the issues. I recently bought an S-VCM and am waiting for its arrival. Hopefully it’ll perform as advertised…full time V-6 power/smoother operation…hopefully without any Christmas tree lights following its pretty straightforward installation.🫣😁
@@DSDON78620 I hate that thing. There is a slight delay in taking off when you take your foot off the brake unlike not using it the engine isn't running yet. It's just another CAFE mandated forcing the manufacturers to come up with something. Same deal with diesels and all the choking emission stuff.
As a Ridgeline owner, this is the review I've been waiting for. Best mechanic on RUclips giving me the nilly dilly. Love it! Just want to say, the Tailgate door is lockable through the infotainment system settings. You can enable/disable it in there since the 2020 model year. Locks/unlocks with the keyfob when activated. Also as for VCM, not too enthused about it but there are 3rd party solutions to permanently disable VCM. Personally I hate auto stop/start more than VCM, but I will be looking to disable both soon through the aftermarket.
@@rebeltuba9422most bedcovers require you to be able to access the underside of the bedcover to open them. so the locking tailgate locks access to open the bed cover
S-VCM installed and drives way better. Holds the gears longer, no shutter at really low speeds. Accelerates from a stop much faster with lighter pedal. Isn't constantly search for gears on the highway. This truck was built to run on 6 cylinders all the time.
You'd be surprised alot of people turned away or returned there Ridgelines cause of that trunk lock..... Most dealers don't know that this is a setting to enable.....
One of the first things I figured out in the infotainment was setting it to lock automatically with the doors, always spend some time learning the infotainment in new cars, just how they work now.
Just imagine the looks I get when I show up to the horse show in my ridgeline towing a little 2 horse straight load trailer with my daughters horse in it. lol. I've owned half a dozen 1/2 ton american trucks in the last 20 years, every single one needed more repairs than they should have.. Love my ridgeline for my every other weekend towing needs and a smooth comfortable ride for the other 90% of the time.
My recently retired parents love theirs. They traded in my dad's old early 2000's Ford Ranger. They use it for a grocery getter, and the back door feature is perfect for them. It also gets around on the snow and ice. I've never been in a vehicle that grips as well as this thing does on ice. It felt like a giant cat gripping all around. It is amazing for that. Here in Montana, we need that for the wintertime.
I bought one in May, traded in a 2010 sierra hd. I am 6'7" and this might not be nearly as roomy, obviously, but I have to say FOR ME this actually checked just about all the boxes. I am very surprised and pleased with it. Still has plenty of room for the family. I'd get another, just have to accept the truck that it is and is not.
I’ve had my RTL-E for 4 years and now have 60,000 miles with zero problems. Old school works perfectly for me. I live in upstate NY and from November to April we can have snow most any day. The VTM-4 all wheel drive system works better in the snow than any car or truck around.
About 2 months ago bought a 18 RTL-E, with 72K mi. Clean car fax, & all maintenance records, one owner. Fits all my wants and needs, I'm very happy with it. 3rd Honda vehicle. Also in central NY 👍
My 2015 GMC Sierra Z71 Crew 4x4 with AutoTrac and Hill decent controll can forge thru 2' or more of snow any day of the week. With 4 low and a G80 limited slip posi, I go where few can.
I’m glad he didn’t point anything out that was too bad. I like this better than the Tacoma since I’m 6’4” and have two kids. Feel like it’s the perfect truck for my family and I haven’t heard of any really problems with this generation ridgeline that’s been in place since 2017.? I’m very happy with my decision. It’s funny my kids this it’s a badass truck😂. Makes me laugh
There are a couple of fixes for your major concerns on this engine. Use CRC intake valve cleaner before every oil change to keep the carbon build up to a minimum. There's a module you can install to disable VCM. Great review!
I've read a couple comments where installing these VCM disablers surprisingly cured their finicky ZF transmissions. I have a 2022 and though I feel confident in it, it just seems like too many conditions thrown at the decision of when to shift, especially when adding gears.
If you want longevity on the 3.5 V6, install a VCM tuner and stop running on 3 cylinders. Additionally, install an oil catch can, it will help reduce carbon buildup on the valves because of the DI. I just bought a 2025 Ridgeline and I’m making both mods. 😊
Bought a 2019 Sport, 5 years ago. Pulls my 3600lb GeoPro trailer fine. Has the shift knob and no button to push that prevents the engine turning off at stop lights! Owned alot of trucks, this by far is the best one yet. The swing gate and rear trunk are next level useful on trips.
I have a 2023 Ridgeline. The tailgate locks when you lock the doors. I love the vehicle. Comfortable on longer trips. I plan on installing a VCM deactivator when the warranty over.
I've read that it doesn't affect warranty. I was planning on getting one and installing it day one. If it's an issue I think they're easy to take off no?
I bought a 2023 Ridgeline. In the cars menu, you can select the tailgate to lock automatically. Immediately , I bypassed the cylinder deactivation and start stop. Because I don't need 10k of towing. The Ridgeline is more than enough of a truck.
My 2011 odyssey had cylinder deactivation. It would burn oil and foul spark plugs. Bypassed it and those problems went away. I'd highly recommend. I'm assuming this ridgeline engine is similar to the van. Search vcm muzzler.
I have a 2017 and it’s a great vehicle. Speakers and power outlet in the bed. Comfortable to drive on long trips, good power and 24 mpg. We have 100k miles and have no issues with anything. Good design and lots of useful storage space.
The tailgate most certainly is lockable, as others have commented, it's in your settings on the radio head unit. I leave mine off though. For Cylinder de-activation, I'll probably end up adding the S-VCM modification to remove that. And to my awareness, these engines really like to be revved out (I hit Vtec pretty frequently) which is supposed to help with carbon buildup on valves, although I have nothing to back that up. Great video!
Revving the engine may minimize carbon on the underside of valves, but it won’t do anything for the intake side. Only regular solvent treatments will work for that. Also, direct injection of fuel results in more dilution of oil with unburned gasoline, which means more frequent oil changes are required. Revving the engine can make this worse.
@@ctbale1 They both lock. The trunk behaves the same as the doors do, but the tailgate is a setting in the radio to determine whether or not it locks/unlocks with your keyfob. I found it kind of annoying to have the tailgate locked because I often have to get stuff in or out of the bed and leave my keys in my house, and started to get annoyed whenever I'd have to go back inside to get them just to open the tailgate
I have a 22 Tacoma and my friend recently bought a 18 Ridgeline. His Ridgeline is way nicer than my Tacoma. It's much more comfortable, smoother, and roomier inside. That flip up back seat makes for a far more useable rear space for hauling things inside the cab, and the back seat can actually carry 3 full size adult men. The rear trunk area under the bed floor is a very useful space and the spare tire on the drawer slide is a really nice touch and keeps the tire nice and clean. It can carry a 1500 lb. payload just like my Tacoma can, and the two way tailgate makes it super easy to load and unload. The Ridgeline is all the truck most people need and is far more practical than many. I had no idea until he got his what a nice truck they are.
from riding in newer Tacomas, I hate the ride and sway but see it as a tough, reliable off-road vehicle and probably decent towing truck as well, especially when you want reliable and investment vehicle.
@@jamesmedina2062 Yes. Very well said. Those are the Tacoma's strengths. Well, except for maybe the towing. I wouldn't tow anything more than a small fishing boat or a very small travel trailer with one. More of a weight issue for me. But yeah, my Tacoma is still worth about the same today as the day I bought it in 22. Mostly because many people are having trouble warming up to the new turbo Tacoma's and want that old school reliability. The Tacoma is all truck and does small truck things very well which is what I bought it for. That and longevity. I plan on keeping it 20-30 years. Or at least till end of life or ability to drive. Then I'll pass it on to my kids.
Another perk of the side-hinge tailgate is it makes sweeping your bed clean much easier because debris won’t get stuck in the hinge gap like it does on bottom-hinge gates
Mine is 16 yrd old 2009 honda pilot owned it since brandnew it has VCM.I changed oil every 4k miles or every 6 months whatever comes first, transmission oil every 30k miles.Still runs like a clock no oil consumption. It depends how you maintain a car for its reliability.
Great review. Functionally it does the same thing as a “truck” and competes really well with most midsized trucks. Very reliable. What would be a vast improvement is if Honda followed the same format as the 2023 Honda Pilot Trailsport edition with the new 3.5 l v6, a slight lift to improve ground clearance, functional skid plates, 10 speed auto and the improved iVTM - 4 system which makes the Pilot Trailsport a very capable AWD vehicle.
I purchased A 2024 Black Edition in February 2024. I was aware of all of the "shortcomings" listed in the video. I live in suburban America. The single most important quality of the car is the ride, it is fantastic. The trunk in the bed and the swing out tailgate are used by me almost everyday, why every truck manufacturer does not include these is just stupid. The truck is my daily commuter vehicle to and from work, about 30 minutes each way without traffic, 45 minutes with traffic. I also wanted a truck bed, and this one is superb. I can carry plywood or sheet rock lying flat on the truck bed. It is about 50" between the wheel wells. I have had 4 full size adults in the truck and we were all comfortable with ample leg and head room. The heaviest trailer I have ever towed was 3,800 pounds so the 5,000 pound limit still leaves me ample headroom. My plan for the truck is 20 years of ownership. If I can approach 400,000 miles without a rebuilt engine or transmission I will be happy. Oil and fluids are cheap, engines and transmissions are expensive. As far as maintenance is concerned I do it all myself. I do oil changes every 3000 miles, and will do things like other fluid changes (differential, transfer case, and automatic transmission) when the time comes. On other cars I have owned I have done routine things like brake jobs and ancillary engine component changes like starters and alternators. I have even done engine rebuilds on 2 different cars I owned when I was younger. When the time comes I have every expectation that a timing belt change will not be a particularly daunting job. All of my planned maintenance intervals are extremely proactive. Things like oil at 3000 miles, not 7500 as Honda seems to think is fine. Coolant, thermostats, spark plugs, and PCV valves will be replaced on an aggressive mileage interval before failure based on traditional known lifespans of these types of components. A planned proactive replacement early is, for me, a more cost effective option compared to waiting for component failure and possible breakdowns or damage. A clogged PCV can cause or contribute to oil leaks. A failed thermostat can result in engine overheating or a constantly cold engine during the winter months. I do not "off road", however I do drive on dirt roads and snow. A dirt road in the rain with mud or snow is a very different thing when compared to rock crawling. I know and understand the difference. I used to own a Jeep CJ, it was lots of fun, but real off-roading is an expensive hobby. This truck is for typical suburban use. It also helps to know that this truck was built in the US by American workers as well as the engine and transmission. in 2024 the Honda Ridgeline was 70% domestic parts content, the highest for any truck available new at the time. The manufacturer has built in some "features" that I do view as problems. Cylinder deactivation, start stop technology, and GDI with out port fuel injection, and a timing belt rather than a timing chain are all poor choices for the end user. Cylinder deactivation and start stop can be disabled by purchasing aftermarket devices, when my drive train is out of warranty I will purchase these devices and disable these "features". An oil catch can should help with carbon buildup on the intake valves caused by GDI only, again when the time comes I will install one. Lastly the timing belt while annoying will not present me with a particularly challenging maintenance item. Criticisms such as tailgate locking and others mentioned in the video are either non default settings or features available at my trim level. I looked long and hard and the Ridgeline was my best option and with almost 10,000 miles on mine so far I am as happy with my purchase as possible. If the truck was totaled or stolen tomorrow I would replace it with another one without giving it a second thought.
Again, I know it’s not the standard content from this channel, but I would love to see you guys do a Honda Element video: a 2003-2011 review, why you think it was discontinued, your opinion on Honda’s recent patents, and what you think would make a successful revival.
I had a ‘13 Odyssey with a VCM engine. Started to smoke on occasion on the highway and burn some oil, until I installed a VCM suppressor. It stopped the smoking, burning and actually gained 1-2 mpg. Best $100 spent.
Thank you once again for a great review! I appreciate you taking time of your busy schedule on giving us professional feedback on vehicles we love! God bless you and your family.
I find it funny when people call this truck small. It's the widest in it's class with the most passenger room and it's almost a foot longer than the compact Maverick and Sante Cruz. Best midsized truck in the market as far as versatility, practicality and comfort.
@@mgp9733 Agreed. The Feds classify it as mid-size. the industry regards it as mid-size. its bed is 4” longer than Maverick or Tacoma. And wider due to lack of wheel wells. The only mid-sized truck you can lay 4’x 8’ sheet stock flat in the bed. Not BIG, but not small either.
I had a 2021 RTL-E on lease but swapped it for an Integra Type S after a severe mid-life crisis. I really wanted to keep both, but it was too expensive to maintain two vehicles. I never imagined I’d miss the Ridgeline this much. At least we still have the Odyssey for times when we need to haul big stuff. The feature I enjoyed the most was the bed trunk. If I need another vehicle in the future, the Ridgeline will be my first choice."
@20:00 the tailgate is lockable. It has a power locking feature which locks and unlocks with the central locking system. It can however be disabled in the infotainment settings, which it is by factory default. The trunk can also be disabled thru the switch in the glove box.
I have the 2024 Ridgeline TrailSport (same trim as the one being reviewed) and the tailgate IS lockable. However, for whatever reason, Honda decided to turn that off by default. It’s a setting you simply enable from the touch screen to lock it with the rest of the doors.
I was planning on buying the 2024 Tacoma until I saw the price 😂 I bought the outgoing 2023 Honda Ridgeline RTL HPD for 38500. 15,000 cheaper than the equivalent Tacoma limited. The trunk, tailgate, and the rear seats are the best. The tailgate is lockable. You have to go to the vehicle settings and tell it Yes to lock. You can open and lock with the key fob. It's cool idea.😊
@@wt9653 No to you peasant 🤣 use minimum 5w30 minimum because 0w20 thins out not ONLY because of direct injection, but because in the Honda vehicle manual it says to use 5w30 for towing and high rpm use
The paddle shifters are actually very very useful for a car with button transmission. I use it almost daily when I am about to overtake someone.... I put it in sport and drop down a gear or two and pin the gas and it actually helps. It is obviously not made for using it like a sports car but the paddle shifters actually serve a good purpose.
I often hit the S button for more control during busy freeway driving or to control downhill speed and I find that the S mode perks it up so much that I don’t need to use the paddle shifters at all.
@CMBBmc-jd6urit has 9 gears with tall overdrives. It does 70mph in 9th at like 1500rpm. 8th @ ~1800rpm & 7th @ ~2200rpm. It won't even go into 9th until 55mph / ~1100rpm & will force you to 8th at 53mph near 1000rpm even in manual mode. Most trucks spin near 2k rpm @ 70mph. Sport mode locks out 9th & 8th & will behave more like a "real" truck & not have to shift.
Thank you for this info. Im cross shopping this with a Frontier (wanna keep in the N/A V6 engine range) and when he said the tail gate can't be locked I'm like...what??? Why, Honda? And it instantly reminded me of 4Runners without fuel cap locks. Don't know why these engineers would keep it like that.
Shallow bed , low loading bed height, low door entrance height, drives like a car, very comfortable. A lot of pluses for older drivers, or those not wanting a rough riding regular truck.
You nailed the segment comments - I need a truck 3-4 times a year. I want something I can use to bring home furniture or sheets of plywood with. I need something I can throw my bike into without worrying about dirtying the interior, or to help a friend move... I don't need a truck. I need a car with a bed. I've been eying the ridgeline for a while... Just trying to justify the price when I only need it 3-4 times per year!
@@coreyisabigpushover cabin space is significantly more cramped on the frontier, and construction materials don't fit in a frontier bed. Ride quality is significantly worse, and gas mileage is probably 20% worse or more.
I only really need a pickup bed 3-4x per year much like you. I rent or borrow a utility trailer that I hitch to my rx. I use a hitch mounted bike carrier as well.I even tow a boat. Hard to justify buying a pickup.
I know you own a new Tundra and don't review American cars but I'd love to see you review a F-150 with 5.0 coyote engine to see why it's been the best selling truck for so long.
My 2021 Ridgeline RTL-E has a locking tailgate that operates with the power door locks. Surprised the Trail Sport, does not. This is the perfect vehicle. Most pick-up owners don’t need or really “use” a full sized pick-up.
I own one. The think about the tailgate is you have to adjust the settings to lock it with your key fob. Also, the bed is quite shallow and it becomes more apparent when you have a tonneau cover. The under body storage is a nice touch to compensate for the shallow bed. Also, many people complain about the new tech in cars, also complain that some things are outdated in this car. I think this has a decent amount of tech. I hate having a computer control the entire vehicle.
I believe that the rear tailgate does have a locking feature that is similar, if not the same as that on my Santa Cruz. Lock the vehicle and the tailgate also locks. If the key fob is out of range of the vehicle, the doors and tailgate remain locked. Try that and see if the tailgate remains locked.
@@ctbale1 If you press the lock button on the fob, and the fob is still in the vicinity of the RIdgeline, the doors will lock but the tailgate will not lock. Same should be true for the "door" feature of the tailgate. What I'm saying is that you should lock the doors with the fob as normal and then walk away from the vehicle with the fob so you're out of range for the operation of the fob lock/unlock button. Leave the fob inside the house after you lock the doors and then go outside to the vehicle. All the doors and the tailgate latches should be locked. This is how it works on my Santa Cruz, and I'll bet it works like this on the Ridgeline as well. If you have one, try it and let us know. The trunk inside the bed has a separate lock assembly that is key activated, not fob activated. So it needs to be locked and unlocked manually.
@@ctbale1 I think it's the right thing to do even if your mileage were to drop a little. I'm glad it didn't though. Cylinder deactivation is a bad idea.
Thank you for an honest review of the Ridgeline. I recently bought a 2024 and traded my Forester and sold my Tundra. This gives me a great trade off with the ability to pull 5,000 pounds and haul things that would have messed the inside of the Forester without sacrificing the ride. It s a great compromise between the two vehicles. I no longer needed the power to pull 9,000 pounds. It’s really like having both vehicles in one. Very reasonable to insure and only 1 to register. Happy to see you review other makes, I thought you only did Toyota!
CCN you are my go-to with theeeee best car reviews on RUclips!!!! Keep 'em coming, mr. I really like the Ridgeline but dang are they expensive. But I almost went with a Ford Maverick and alas your review (along with other research) confirmed that will not a be vehicle to last up to 100k+ miles. Timing belt vs timing chain. You mentioned this belt is easier to change. I wonder can a weekend wrencher do it or will it require special tools and lots of patience getting under and reaching through a myriad of hoses and tubes? Timing belt changes, along with idlers, belts, water pump and labor runs about $900-$2000 on some engines. But at least the engine is getting attention and may last longer. Timing chain does not have an interval to change and sometimes last the life of the engine or car. But IF IF they do break it's a major repair. Thoughts?🤔
With my V6 Accord the VCM Is just 2 stages. Either i3 or V6. But to keep my engine from having issues down the road I got rid of cylinder deactivation. It gluts more gas but the performance is instantaneous. It’s like night and day.
I had a 2007 Ridgeline, sold it last year with 200k city miles (not hwy) on it. It was a great truck for my property management business and just general daily driving. I remodeled three (personal) homes with it, and countless rentals. Being able to pick up sheets of plywood or Sheetrock flat in the bed was pretty awesome.
I was actually looking for this video from Car Care Nut weeks ago. Now he finally released one. Thank you! I have a 2019 with 100k miles and still runs great. All maintenance schedules followed.
Last year, my 1st gen RL blew a gasket @ 265k odometer so I sold it, picked up a Nissan Titan. In comparison, the RL did practically everything that the Titan does for MY use (daily commute and hauling random things every other week). I see myself going back to RL later on. Hope for hybrid!
It has an electronic tailgate lock that can be enabled or disabled when the doors lock. It can also be then be disabled by a switch on the left side of the glove box.
I had a ‘13 a ‘19 and now drive a Tacoma, the Ridgeline is the smoothest riding pick up, not the most off-road but has many features that I do miss, like the interior comfort and the in bed trunk which makes the space in the bed way larger and offers a dry storage for luggage.
I bought one 3 months ago and love it. The tailgate is lockable through the infotainment screen and the trunk locks separately via a switch in the glovebox. Honda nailed it with this pickup IMHO. The gas mileage is respectable, and it is a typical solid feeling, smooth running Honda. I love the feel and sound of a Honda door, sets them apart from most other vehicles I have driven.
Hey CCN. MY 2023 allows locking all doors,tailgate and trunk through programming in settings. No worries about tailgate being opened with tonneau cover installed. Thanks for the review of a truck few people love. Had a 2006 and now a 2023. Great vehicle.
I've been thinking about buying one of these and the fact that it is "old school" is what I find appealing about it. The only two things that bother me are the start stop feature and the cylinder deactivation system. I know that it's not complicated to disable the start stop feature, but I wonder how complicated it is to permanently disable the cylinder deactivation system. If I could do it, I would buy me one of these things.
Great review as usual! I purchased my 2024 Ridgeline TS in late March & I chose the radiant red 2 color.. the best color IMO. The tailgate is locked via the settings in the infotainment.. set to not lock by factory default. Ridgelines seem expensive to those who don’t research them.. they come with more standard equipment than any other midsize truck & are well worth the money.
@@ctbale1 both the tailgate and the trunk lock. Once you adjust the settings on the infotainment screen every time you lock the truck with fob it will also lock the tailgate. I’ve had my 24 ridgeline for about 4 months and it does lock. In fact I set mine up in the settings to automatically lock along with truck whenever I walk away from truck with the fob in my pocket
I love the review best 1 I've seen ! But I'll like to add for everyone to know. The tailgate is lockable. My girl has a 2021 Sport and I got the 2022 RTL-E. If you go to your settings on the display you have the option to have your tailgate unlocked all the time or automatically lock when you lock the vehicle. The bed storage area also has a sensor in which you can unlock that compartment when you approach it with your key fob. So overall if you change the settings your tailgate and storage area in the bed will automatically lock when you lock the vehicle.
Really glad you did this video. This vehicle is on my list and I have been doing a lot of research and now I feel very informed. The Ridgeline makes a lot of sense and is extremely practical. I have owned full sized trucks as well as traditional mid size body on frame trucks. I like the new tacoma, but the backseat is too small and that is the same for the Ranger and GM twins. Cargo capacity on this is well above most of the the competition as well. Ridgeline also happens to be a bargain when compared to its competition and that hasn't always been the case.
S-VCM... problem solved. Disable start/stop.- problem solved. Direct injection is the only issue longterm. I've got 50,000 miles on a 2022 Sport AWD, and thinking on trading it in. ZF9 trans has the funky dog clutches that you can feel and hear engaging sometimes. Makes a clicking noise sometimes between 40 and 50 mph when coming on and off the gas. Overall it's smooth though. Has a good bit of wind noise at 55 mph and up. It's a great pickup, but not the best for a lot of stop / start city type driving. I'm wanting the CRV with the 1.5T actually. It's a lot more nimble and free flowing in its drive feel. The ridgeline you feel the downshifts and stuff. This is a really heavy "truck". SUV pickup... about 4500 pounds. I think it's too heavy. Can be rough over potholes and rough roads too. Drives WAY smoother with VCM disabled. And mpg's stayed the same for me. I put some Pirelli Scorpion AS3 Plus tires on and they are more comfortable and very very quiet compared to the stock Firestones that were on it.
@@jddonahue2 I know about the oil dilution. I think they are generally reliable if you maintain them - change oil often, let turbo cool down after each drive. Not sure about reliability but it really is a tight engine that pairs well with the turbo. Fun to drive
Sold my first gen Ridgeline after 16 years of ownership, besides regular maintenance the cost of repairs was less than $500 CDN and that was a starter replacement. Towed my boat all over the province, no problems, Very capable vehicle for its intended purpose.
I would take this (or maybe a Nissan Frontier as a distant second) over the 2.4L turbos Toyota is putting into everything. VCM in this particular engine can be disabled and carbon buildup from the direct injection engine is not known to be a widespread issue. Plus this truck is at the end of its current generation and so they have worked out all the kinks in it. Granted these are still negatives but I think he is a bit unfair in his criticism because what else is there that's better?. He criticized the 2.4L turbo on the RX350 saying that is was underpowered and the resulting drone of the engine made it a poor choice for "nice people" who buy the Lexus. If the previous Toyota 6 cycl NA engine was still available in a new vehicle, I would be all over that in a heartbeat. With where Toyota is going with its powertrains, the hybrid versions are the better alternative except for me as my garage gets super hot during summer with the 100F sun beating down on the westward facing garage doors.
We have a 2024 RL Trailsport. Standard comes very well equipped. V6 is simple, no turbo crap. The mileage avg is about 25.... no other mid-size comes even close. We love it. That door comes in handy everytime when we have to put / take out something. Rear seats fold to create almost even floor space.
I recently got a 2024 Black Edition. The tailgate locks and works great with a hard tonneau cover. For daily driving/Home Depot runs it's great. I like that it has no turbo to mess with. The back seats work great with dogs. I flip the seats up and have a couple of dog beds. They aren't flying off the seats or tearing up the leather. I'll test the AWD this winter, but if my '03 BMW 325XI handles better in the snow than my '08 Wrangler in the snow, I'm happy. The Jeep is for off road. I think this is a great little pickup.
You can lock the tailgate. A combination of the infotainment and switch in the glovebox. I just bought a ‘24 BE and love this. At this point in my life it’s the best overall for me. Smooth ride and plenty of room in the cab. And the storage is plentiful.
You really need to make sure you learn about a vehicle before you talk about it. First, this engine only runs on 6 or 3 cylinders - not 4. Honda did away with the 3-mode VCM a decade ago. Second, all 2020-2025 Ridgelines have a factory-installed tailgate lock.
I own a 2017 Ridgeline the first year of the second gen, and love it. It has 139k miles on it and does not burn a single drop of oil, timing belt and water pump done at 105k. I would buy another one in a heartbeat.
You don't understand. Don't worry! He didn't mention how it works. You have to push the ECON button to enable the cylinder deactivation. Just like the start/stop button.
Thanks for all your car videos, very impressive! I think the tailgate comes from the factory unlocked but it can be locked using the key fob once it is synchronized from the touch screen. Best!
19:45 and 25:45 yes the tailgate does lock. It’s part of the central locking and can be set with the proximity key on all but the base model. I like not having to manually lock it like I had to in my Tacoma, Tundra, etc
Government regulations are killing the reliability and affordability of new car powertrains. Its making it very difficult on manufacturers AND service professionals.
@@antiantiderivativeNot so. Government owns the manufacturers. Want to do business here? They get their cut via kickbacks. The government buys or nowadays tries to buy their votes with promises of money. Fact is We The People still own about 30% of GM. They’ve never fully paid back the tax dollars Obama gave them for their vote. Had he not give them money GM would be gone. There’s a reason businesses are leaving democrat states. Over regulation. I worked for a utility for 25 plus years. The governments hand is deep into regulatory control and why utilities are sky high. Democrat policies. Here in California democrats shot down two bills that would have lowered costs for the citizens. Why? Because they would have lost their kickbacks in “campaign” funding. Democrats love big government. Love controlling every aspect of every thing.
@@antiantiderivativemore government is always more bad. exactly for the reason you said, they're owned by the companies they control. if you take them out of the equation, actual capitalism can work, then the problem companies go away instead of being propped up by feds. for instance look at American car companies. some of the least reliable you can find, but also most commonly sold because of all the government money
I have a 21 black edition and I love it. Installed a 2” lift and wildpeak 31” tires and of course an oil catch can because it’s direct injection only. This truck should last me years
I bought my Ridgeline the first year they came out. Now has 227k miles on it. Best vehicle I have ever owned.
You have 227k on a 2006 Honda Ridgeline ? I had one for 7 years without any problem. I bought a travel trailer and the Ridgeline's wheelbase was long enough to control the trailer. I trailer my Ridgeline on a F-150.
@@tuffr2 Yep, bought it in March 2005. Still going strong.
@@1htalp9 that is about the time I bought mine. Spring 2005.
true, " vehicle " not a truck
@@aknadiri2520 It's a Pilot with a bed and a cool trunk.
I was a over twenty-year Toyota truck owner both Tacoma and Tundra and I needed the size when I was young to haul and tow heavy loads. My Wife was always afraid to drive the big trucks at least for a small woman it was big and when I was gone it was an issue. We are 75 years young and felt we needed something she could drive and we don't haul or tow heavy loads. We wanted the new safety features i.e. lane tracer etc. We looked at the new Tacomas first then we looked and drove everything else in mid-size pickup and the Ridgeline she just loved since it drove like a car. We bought the 2024 Ridgeline Black Edition and so far love it. I was one of those guys that always put down the "toy trucks" but now I am a believer at the stage of my life. I always thought the tailgate opening was a gimmick but it is one of the best features and we use it more than the other drop down opening. Outstanding review as always but the Black Edition would have shown all the bells and whistles available. I was a mechanic (old school) for cars, trucks, heavy equipment both gas and diesel as well as a shop owner for a few years. The trade wasn't very well respected as some of the other trades which never sat well with me. I am happy to see that skilled, knowledgeable and articulate technicians like yourself are doing RUclips videos to change that frame of mind. Many folks do not realize the complexity of auto maintenance and repair. You have to be an expert in so many different fields mechanical, electrical, hydraulic, air conditioning, structural and computers. To be a Master Technician like yourself takes many hours of study and hands on experience along with cuts, bruises and burns. The training and learning never stops since the manufacturers are changing design, functionality and parts almost every year. Bless you Sir and please keep up the good work.
buy a ridgeline 👍
I understand the toy truck mentality. I just sold my 2007 Ram Cummins pre-def and dpf. I sold it for $6K less than I bought it in late '06. Our 2005 Pilot is now our truck and we just bought a slightly used Honda Passport for long trips.
Car review don’t even come CLOSED to this guy. This is a whole new level of car reviews
Doesn't get more technical than this.
Savage Geese
@@ADUSN Even SG doesn't critique the clamps used throughout and heat exchanger loop quality. This guy is goes pretty deep sometimes. His analysis of cylinder deactivation, which sounds like an automotive "free lunch" on its face, is spot on.
@@cbotten106 Savage geese talks to engineers and stuff, they're both honestly great for people who like cars.
Yep, most of them car reviewers are not master mechs.
I had that engine in a Honda Odyssey. It was very reliable, and mine went 350,000 miles before I traded it. Oil changes every 6000 miles using Mobil 1, and then every 100,000 miles it needed spark plugs, water pump, and timing belt. 10/10 would buy another vehicle that had the same engine.
Nice to hear
Did you change the timing belt?
Tow 18ft deepv walleye boat plenty of torque?
@@deandesrosiers6857 The service interval of a timing belt change on my Odyssey was 100,000 miles. I had it change by the dealer at that mileage.
What year odyssey did you have. I heard some years they had problems. I would like to buy one for car camping.
65K on my 2020 Ridgeline, no oil burn, no engine issues at all. Regular oil changes with synthetic, this engine is a winner.
At 65k it better be. 1960’s ford falcons could do that
@@guyletourneau6167 Hey, I had a Falcon and it did well on oil. The vehicle which ate oil was a 1985 Toyota Hilux which consumed 2.5 qts of oil every 3K oil change. Two other friends bought one within months of mine. Same deal. Toyota did a consumption test and the factory deemed it "within specs." During that period Toyota had a run of engines where the rings didn't exert enough pressure against the cylinder walls thus letting oil into the combustion chambers. No blue smoke.
I’m on my second Ridgeline (‘23 RTL-e) and love it. As many folks have commented, the tailgate does lock. Also, you don’t have to hit the door handle button to lock the doors, you just have to walk away and all doors (including the tailgate) lock. I very much like the old school engine. Reliable as any vehicle ever made, all mechanics can easily work on it, parts can be bought anywhere and runs on regular gas. I test drove pretty much all the competitors and ended up right back where I started with my second Ridgeline, Honda has made something very special and unique. Oh, don’t forget about the resale value on these, spectacular (and insurance is cheap).
I share your enthusiasm. I bought a 23 black edition last year and the family and I drive all over the place in this thing and it’s really spacious so nobody is cramped. The Car Care Nut said something about VCM cylinder concerns- do you happen to know if the 2023 has this or is it just the 2024 since the Car Care Nut was reviewing a 24 not a 23?
@@emilcasas2707 2023 has VCM also. I've debated buying a defeater (S-VCM) but haven't done so yet. the reviews I've found are half saying it's great and the other half saying VCM is "completely harmless so why bother?" I did manage to permanently defeat the auto start/stop though. On the RTL-E (& BE) there is a button to push that enables the onboard inverter in the bed. Doing so also turns off the auto/start stop. I simply wedged a small plastic piece into the button area to keep the button permanently pressed in. Honda allows for this feature to be on while the engine is running so there is no damage to the vehicle. Bonus is that it also keeps the stupid amber light from coming on in the dash.
@@DSDON78620 oh wow I love that and will likely follow your lead. Thanks 👍
I own a 2014 Odyssey with over 200k and VCM. My mechanic serviced the cylinder carbon/oil buildup issue that he said these engines ultimately suffer from. He said the only reason that the issue didn’t happen sooner was because I was so religious about 3k oil changes/synthetic oil. He did say that the issue would eventually return…usually warrants engine replacement etc. depending on the severity of the issues. I recently bought an S-VCM and am waiting for its arrival. Hopefully it’ll perform as advertised…full time V-6 power/smoother operation…hopefully without any Christmas tree lights following its pretty straightforward installation.🫣😁
@@DSDON78620 I hate that thing. There is a slight delay in taking off when you take your foot off the brake unlike not using it the engine isn't running yet. It's just another CAFE mandated forcing the manufacturers to come up with something. Same deal with diesels and all the choking emission stuff.
Perfect truck for the weekend warrior. The functionality is hard to beat.
Yes, those pavements and curbs better watch out
@@calebwany8422 Speed bump warrior!
Cosco and Ikea stand no chance
As a Ridgeline owner, this is the review I've been waiting for. Best mechanic on RUclips giving me the nilly dilly. Love it!
Just want to say, the Tailgate door is lockable through the infotainment system settings. You can enable/disable it in there since the 2020 model year. Locks/unlocks with the keyfob when activated.
Also as for VCM, not too enthused about it but there are 3rd party solutions to permanently disable VCM. Personally I hate auto stop/start more than VCM, but I will be looking to disable both soon through the aftermarket.
Isn't that only useful with a locking bed cover?
@@rebeltuba9422most bedcovers require you to be able to access the underside of the bedcover to open them. so the locking tailgate locks access to open the bed cover
S-VCM installed and drives way better. Holds the gears longer, no shutter at really low speeds. Accelerates from a stop much faster with lighter pedal. Isn't constantly search for gears on the highway. This truck was built to run on 6 cylinders all the time.
S-vcm is what I use. Stops the shudder. Put it on at 74miles, love it
@@ctbale1 can I ask what shudder? I feel one when accelerating between 22-28 mph on my 23 Ridge.
It does have a tailgate lock apparently, standard since 2020 and can be enabled/disabled in the infotainment control thing.
If you open the glove box, there is a button on the left side just outside the box opening , so you can lock it with out the infotainment system.
You'd be surprised alot of people turned away or returned there Ridgelines cause of that trunk lock..... Most dealers don't know that this is a setting to enable.....
One of the first things I figured out in the infotainment was setting it to lock automatically with the doors, always spend some time learning the infotainment in new cars, just how they work now.
@@npfd568rc that is for the lock for the "trunk" not the tailgate
@@khap60 yup , you’re right , I looked after I wrote the comment .
My 2017 Ridgeline has 183000 miles on it not a single problem ever best truck i ever had
Did you have to do timing belt at 80k ?
woah, 2017 with 183k miles, my 1998 5 speed manual nissan sentra daily driver has around 170k miles
Be sure and have the valve adjustment service done. Mine were very tight at 160K. That service along with new plugs made it fly again.
Just imagine the looks I get when I show up to the horse show in my ridgeline towing a little 2 horse straight load trailer with my daughters horse in it. lol. I've owned half a dozen 1/2 ton american trucks in the last 20 years, every single one needed more repairs than they should have.. Love my ridgeline for my every other weekend towing needs and a smooth comfortable ride for the other 90% of the time.
My recently retired parents love theirs. They traded in my dad's old early 2000's Ford Ranger. They use it for a grocery getter, and the back door feature is perfect for them. It also gets around on the snow and ice. I've never been in a vehicle that grips as well as this thing does on ice. It felt like a giant cat gripping all around. It is amazing for that. Here in Montana, we need that for the wintertime.
Best car reviews by far on the tube. Love the closing! May the Lord bless you and keep you too.
That is exactly what I want, the color, the package, everything about this truck I love. This will be my next vehicle purchase.
You won't be disappointed.
SUV*
I bought one in May, traded in a 2010 sierra hd. I am 6'7" and this might not be nearly as roomy, obviously, but I have to say FOR ME this actually checked just about all the boxes. I am very surprised and pleased with it. Still has plenty of room for the family. I'd get another, just have to accept the truck that it is and is not.
I’ve had my RTL-E for 4 years and now have 60,000 miles with zero problems. Old school works perfectly for me. I live in upstate NY and from November to April we can have snow most any day. The VTM-4 all wheel drive system works better in the snow than any car or truck around.
About 2 months ago bought a 18 RTL-E, with 72K mi. Clean car fax, & all maintenance records, one owner. Fits all my wants and needs, I'm very happy with it. 3rd Honda vehicle. Also in central NY 👍
My 2015 GMC Sierra Z71 Crew 4x4 with AutoTrac and Hill decent controll can forge thru 2' or more of snow any day of the week. With 4 low and a G80 limited slip posi, I go where few can.
Your Ridgeline doesn't have vtm-4 if it's 4yrs old. It has the ivtm. It's a huge difference.
Just bought one a month ago and love it. Got rid of my RAV4. Can’t wait to watch this video!!
Now, how do you feel after you watch the video?
I’m glad he didn’t point anything out that was too bad. I like this better than the Tacoma since I’m 6’4” and have two kids. Feel like it’s the perfect truck for my family and I haven’t heard of any really problems with this generation ridgeline that’s been in place since 2017.? I’m very happy with my decision. It’s funny my kids this it’s a badass truck😂. Makes me laugh
@@Chris-yu5iu I did the exact same thing 😂
I like this truck too!
I have a 2015 Rav thinking about the Ridgeline
There are a couple of fixes for your major concerns on this engine. Use CRC intake valve cleaner before every oil change to keep the carbon build up to a minimum. There's a module you can install to disable VCM. Great review!
I installed a catch can to help reduce carbon buildup, so far so good
I've read a couple comments where installing these VCM disablers surprisingly cured their finicky ZF transmissions. I have a 2022 and though I feel confident in it, it just seems like too many conditions thrown at the decision of when to shift, especially when adding gears.
I'm getting mine in 2days 2025 Black Edition... can't wait! 😊 Thanks again for this review!
How much?
If you want longevity on the 3.5 V6, install a VCM tuner and stop running on 3 cylinders. Additionally, install an oil catch can, it will help reduce carbon buildup on the valves because of the DI.
I just bought a 2025 Ridgeline and I’m making both mods. 😊
Bought a 2019 Sport, 5 years ago. Pulls my 3600lb GeoPro trailer fine. Has the shift knob and no button to push that prevents the engine turning off at stop lights! Owned alot of trucks, this by far is the best one yet. The swing gate and rear trunk are next level useful on trips.
Just purchased my ridgeline. What a great review. I feel more confident in my purchase. Thank you
I have a 2023 Ridgeline. The tailgate locks when you lock the doors. I love the vehicle. Comfortable on longer trips. I plan on installing a VCM deactivator when the warranty over.
I've read that it doesn't affect warranty. I was planning on getting one and installing it day one. If it's an issue I think they're easy to take off no?
He was saying the Tailgate would not lock. Are you talking about the tailgate or the trunk?
@@ctbale1 The tailgate does lock. The video is mistaken.
No need ... that's why honda provided an on/off button. Just press the button before you head out
@@OhNoItsReubenI put one on before warranty was off, no problem at dealer during warranty recalls
I bought a 2023 Ridgeline. In the cars menu, you can select the tailgate to lock automatically. Immediately , I bypassed the cylinder deactivation and start stop. Because I don't need 10k of towing. The Ridgeline is more than enough of a truck.
Sweet its overrides
How did you bypass the cylinder deactivation and the start stop?
He was saying the Tailgate would not lock. Are you talking about the tailgate or the trunk?
My 2011 odyssey had cylinder deactivation. It would burn oil and foul spark plugs. Bypassed it and those problems went away. I'd highly recommend. I'm assuming this ridgeline engine is similar to the van. Search vcm muzzler.
Oh and love my 2008 Ridgeline. Things been solid.
I have a 2017 and it’s a great vehicle. Speakers and power outlet in the bed. Comfortable to drive on long trips, good power and 24 mpg. We have 100k miles and have no issues with anything. Good design and lots of useful storage space.
The tailgate most certainly is lockable, as others have commented, it's in your settings on the radio head unit. I leave mine off though. For Cylinder de-activation, I'll probably end up adding the S-VCM modification to remove that. And to my awareness, these engines really like to be revved out (I hit Vtec pretty frequently) which is supposed to help with carbon buildup on valves, although I have nothing to back that up. Great video!
Revving the engine may minimize carbon on the underside of valves, but it won’t do anything for the intake side. Only regular solvent treatments will work for that. Also, direct injection of fuel results in more dilution of oil with unburned gasoline, which means more frequent oil changes are required. Revving the engine can make this worse.
He was saying the Tailgate would not lock. Are you talking about the tailgate or the trunk?
@@ctbale1 They both lock. The trunk behaves the same as the doors do, but the tailgate is a setting in the radio to determine whether or not it locks/unlocks with your keyfob. I found it kind of annoying to have the tailgate locked because I often have to get stuff in or out of the bed and leave my keys in my house, and started to get annoyed whenever I'd have to go back inside to get them just to open the tailgate
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I'm not really a car guy, but I really enjoy your videos. The way you clearly explain things is awesome.
I have a 22 Tacoma and my friend recently bought a 18 Ridgeline. His Ridgeline is way nicer than my Tacoma. It's much more comfortable, smoother, and roomier inside. That flip up back seat makes for a far more useable rear space for hauling things inside the cab, and the back seat can actually carry 3 full size adult men. The rear trunk area under the bed floor is a very useful space and the spare tire on the drawer slide is a really nice touch and keeps the tire nice and clean. It can carry a 1500 lb. payload just like my Tacoma can, and the two way tailgate makes it super easy to load and unload. The Ridgeline is all the truck most people need and is far more practical than many. I had no idea until he got his what a nice truck they are.
from riding in newer Tacomas, I hate the ride and sway but see it as a tough, reliable off-road vehicle and probably decent towing truck as well, especially when you want reliable and investment vehicle.
@@jamesmedina2062 Yes. Very well said. Those are the Tacoma's strengths. Well, except for maybe the towing. I wouldn't tow anything more than a small fishing boat or a very small travel trailer with one. More of a weight issue for me. But yeah, my Tacoma is still worth about the same today as the day I bought it in 22. Mostly because many people are having trouble warming up to the new turbo Tacoma's and want that old school reliability. The Tacoma is all truck and does small truck things very well which is what I bought it for. That and longevity. I plan on keeping it 20-30 years. Or at least till end of life or ability to drive. Then I'll pass it on to my kids.
It should ride better it’s more of a car with a bed rather than a traditional body on frame truck.
Been waiting a long time for this review, thank you Sir for finally doing it.
Another perk of the side-hinge tailgate is it makes sweeping your bed clean much easier because debris won’t get stuck in the hinge gap like it does on bottom-hinge gates
Mine is 16 yrd old 2009 honda pilot owned it since brandnew it has VCM.I changed oil every 4k miles or every 6 months whatever comes first, transmission oil every 30k miles.Still runs like a clock no oil consumption. It depends how you maintain a car for its reliability.
Mine doesn't burn oil at all at 172K
All of your reviews are so impressively knowledgeable. Great work, love your channel!
Great review. Functionally it does the same thing as a “truck” and competes really well with most midsized trucks. Very reliable. What would be a vast improvement is if Honda followed the same format as the 2023 Honda Pilot Trailsport edition with the new 3.5 l v6, a slight lift to improve ground clearance, functional skid plates, 10 speed auto and the improved iVTM - 4 system which makes the Pilot Trailsport a very capable AWD vehicle.
I've had my Ridgeline TrailSport for 6 months. Best Vehicle i've owned. Drives great, and has major utility.
What's the mpg my friend?
I purchased A 2024 Black Edition in February 2024.
I was aware of all of the "shortcomings" listed in the video. I live in suburban America. The single most important quality of the car is the ride, it is fantastic. The trunk in the bed and the swing out tailgate are used by me almost everyday, why every truck manufacturer does not include these is just stupid. The truck is my daily commuter vehicle to and from work, about 30 minutes each way without traffic, 45 minutes with traffic. I also wanted a truck bed, and this one is superb. I can carry plywood or sheet rock lying flat on the truck bed. It is about 50" between the wheel wells. I have had 4 full size adults in the truck and we were all comfortable with ample leg and head room. The heaviest trailer I have ever towed was 3,800 pounds so the 5,000 pound limit still leaves me ample headroom. My plan for the truck is 20 years of ownership. If I can approach 400,000 miles without a rebuilt engine or transmission I will be happy. Oil and fluids are cheap, engines and transmissions are expensive.
As far as maintenance is concerned I do it all myself. I do oil changes every 3000 miles, and will do things like other fluid changes (differential, transfer case, and automatic transmission) when the time comes. On other cars I have owned I have done routine things like brake jobs and ancillary engine component changes like starters and alternators. I have even done engine rebuilds on 2 different cars I owned when I was younger. When the time comes I have every expectation that a timing belt change will not be a particularly daunting job. All of my planned maintenance intervals are extremely proactive. Things like oil at 3000 miles, not 7500 as Honda seems to think is fine. Coolant, thermostats, spark plugs, and PCV valves will be replaced on an aggressive mileage interval before failure based on traditional known lifespans of these types of components. A planned proactive replacement early is, for me, a more cost effective option compared to waiting for component failure and possible breakdowns or damage. A clogged PCV can cause or contribute to oil leaks. A failed thermostat can result in engine overheating or a constantly cold engine during the winter months.
I do not "off road", however I do drive on dirt roads and snow. A dirt road in the rain with mud or snow is a very different thing when compared to rock crawling. I know and understand the difference. I used to own a Jeep CJ, it was lots of fun, but real off-roading is an expensive hobby. This truck is for typical suburban use. It also helps to know that this truck was built in the US by American workers as well as the engine and transmission. in 2024 the Honda Ridgeline was 70% domestic parts content, the highest for any truck available new at the time.
The manufacturer has built in some "features" that I do view as problems. Cylinder deactivation, start stop technology, and GDI with out port fuel injection, and a timing belt rather than a timing chain are all poor choices for the end user. Cylinder deactivation and start stop can be disabled by purchasing aftermarket devices, when my drive train is out of warranty I will purchase these devices and disable these "features". An oil catch can should help with carbon buildup on the intake valves caused by GDI only, again when the time comes I will install one. Lastly the timing belt while annoying will not present me with a particularly challenging maintenance item.
Criticisms such as tailgate locking and others mentioned in the video are either non default settings or features available at my trim level.
I looked long and hard and the Ridgeline was my best option and with almost 10,000 miles on mine so far I am as happy with my purchase as possible. If the truck was totaled or stolen tomorrow I would replace it with another one without giving it a second thought.
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Again, I know it’s not the standard content from this channel, but I would love to see you guys do a Honda Element video: a 2003-2011 review, why you think it was discontinued, your opinion on Honda’s recent patents, and what you think would make a successful revival.
I had a ‘13 Odyssey with a VCM engine. Started to smoke on occasion on the highway and burn some oil, until I installed a VCM suppressor. It stopped the smoking, burning and actually gained 1-2 mpg. Best $100 spent.
I have a 2024 Ridgeline trailsport. Pulls my 3200 lb RV with no issues. Best truck I have ever owned.
It’s been a year since I bought my 2023 Ridgeline and it’s been a great purchase 🤩👍. Great review as always.
Thank you once again for a great review! I appreciate you taking time of your busy schedule on giving us professional feedback on vehicles we love! God bless you and your family.
Oh yes! THE review I was waiting for!
I find it funny when people call this truck small. It's the widest in it's class with the most passenger room and it's almost a foot longer than the compact Maverick and Sante Cruz. Best midsized truck in the market as far as versatility, practicality and comfort.
Park it next to a Ram or F150, hence, small. But def not small.
Yep! The inside is super comfortable and capacious.
@@mgp9733 Agreed. The Feds classify it as mid-size. the industry regards it as mid-size. its bed is 4” longer than Maverick or Tacoma. And wider due to lack of wheel wells. The only mid-sized truck you can lay 4’x 8’ sheet stock flat in the bed. Not BIG, but not small either.
I had a 2021 RTL-E on lease but swapped it for an Integra Type S after a severe mid-life crisis. I really wanted to keep both, but it was too expensive to maintain two vehicles. I never imagined I’d miss the Ridgeline this much. At least we still have the Odyssey for times when we need to haul big stuff.
The feature I enjoyed the most was the bed trunk. If I need another vehicle in the future, the Ridgeline will be my first choice."
@20:00 the tailgate is lockable. It has a power locking feature which locks and unlocks with the central locking system. It can however be disabled in the infotainment settings, which it is by factory default. The trunk can also be disabled thru the switch in the glove box.
He was saying the Tailgate would not lock. Are you talking about the tailgate or the trunk?
I have the 2024 Ridgeline TrailSport (same trim as the one being reviewed) and the tailgate IS lockable. However, for whatever reason, Honda decided to turn that off by default. It’s a setting you simply enable from the touch screen to lock it with the rest of the doors.
@@ctbale1 he is talking about the tailgate. Car Car Nut is wrong. the tailgate locks.
Terrific presentation. Just picked up my 24 Ridgeline today. In Red. Beautiful.
We're going to need that nissan frontier review now!
You want to see some missing welds?😂
That’s the worst small truck ever. One day at work a buddies burned up on the parking lot ! Fire dept came out.
Great review. One note. The tailgate does lock.
And the flippers are there for the ones who don't want to use the buttons .
AMD can you review the latest Nissan frontier pick up truck next? Thank you. Your reviews are great.
@@classicflyer6285 His reviews of just the mechanicals are great, when he decides to explain not just assert.
I was planning on buying the 2024 Tacoma until I saw the price 😂
I bought the outgoing 2023 Honda Ridgeline RTL HPD for 38500. 15,000 cheaper than the equivalent Tacoma limited. The trunk, tailgate, and the rear seats are the best.
The tailgate is lockable. You have to go to the vehicle settings and tell it Yes to lock. You can open and lock with the key fob. It's cool idea.😊
Engine is butter smooth use 5w30
@@valiantone395
No, 0/20
@@wt9653 No to you peasant 🤣 use minimum 5w30 minimum because 0w20 thins out not ONLY because of direct injection, but because in the Honda vehicle manual it says to use 5w30 for towing and high rpm use
@@valiantone395 Nowhere in the 2024 Ridgeline manual does it say to use 5W30 when towing.
@@21Piloteer I have 2019 Passport and it does, same transmission and engine also premium fuel whilst towing recommended
The paddle shifters are actually very very useful for a car with button transmission. I use it almost daily when I am about to overtake someone.... I put it in sport and drop down a gear or two and pin the gas and it actually helps. It is obviously not made for using it like a sports car but the paddle shifters actually serve a good purpose.
@CMBBmc-jd6ur vehicles with more power cost more money, and have lower mpg. They also require a bigger vehicle.
I often hit the S button for more control during busy freeway driving or to control downhill speed and I find that the S mode perks it up so much that I don’t need to use the paddle shifters at all.
@CMBBmc-jd6urit has 9 gears with tall overdrives.
It does 70mph in 9th at like 1500rpm. 8th @ ~1800rpm & 7th @ ~2200rpm. It won't even go into 9th until 55mph / ~1100rpm & will force you to 8th at 53mph near 1000rpm even in manual mode.
Most trucks spin near 2k rpm @ 70mph.
Sport mode locks out 9th & 8th & will behave more like a "real" truck & not have to shift.
The tailgate does lock. You can even lock the trunk with a key, at least in the 2023. Bed con is it is shallow compared to the competition.
Yes,
Honda decided to come from the factory with the default unlocked?😮
It's nice, you can lock and unlock with key fob.
Thank you for this info. Im cross shopping this with a Frontier (wanna keep in the N/A V6 engine range) and when he said the tail gate can't be locked I'm like...what??? Why, Honda? And it instantly reminded me of 4Runners without fuel cap locks. Don't know why these engineers would keep it like that.
Shallow bed , low loading bed height, low door entrance height, drives like a car, very comfortable. A lot of pluses for older drivers, or those not wanting a rough riding regular truck.
Concur. Have the '23 Ridgeline. The tailgate definitely locks. Honda started putting locks on the tailgate with the 2020 model.
the tailgate does lock its in the car settings you can also lock it from the glove box so it is real secure
The Tailgate does lock, mine locks with the remote 2023 RTLE! - and i added VCM delete
When I was a kid my Dad bought a new 1966 Mercury station wagon. That was the first time I saw a two way tailgate. It was very convenient .
Do you remember the commercials for the station wagon that had a three way tailgate starring Ara Parsegian from Notre Dame?
You nailed the segment comments - I need a truck 3-4 times a year. I want something I can use to bring home furniture or sheets of plywood with. I need something I can throw my bike into without worrying about dirtying the interior, or to help a friend move... I don't need a truck. I need a car with a bed.
I've been eying the ridgeline for a while... Just trying to justify the price when I only need it 3-4 times per year!
You can get a Nissan Frontier for less money. No timing belt or lifters to maintain and the MPG is almost the same.
Buy a used one. Ridgeline depreciation is high
@@coreyisabigpushover cabin space is significantly more cramped on the frontier, and construction materials don't fit in a frontier bed. Ride quality is significantly worse, and gas mileage is probably 20% worse or more.
that's strangely practical, im impressed
I only really need a pickup bed 3-4x per year much like you. I rent or borrow a utility trailer that I hitch to my rx. I use a hitch mounted bike carrier as well.I even tow a boat. Hard to justify buying a pickup.
I know you own a new Tundra and don't review American cars but I'd love to see you review a F-150 with 5.0 coyote engine to see why it's been the best selling truck for so long.
My 2021 Ridgeline RTL-E has a locking tailgate that operates with the power door locks.
Surprised the Trail Sport, does not.
This is the perfect vehicle. Most pick-up owners don’t need or really “use” a full sized pick-up.
It would be nice to include the msrp and fuel economy ratings in the technical review to help peopke decide. Keep up the fantastic work!
You could see those two pieces of information in plenty of other car reviews!
That's a very dumb request, every state has different values.
@@MrSmith804 MSRP and MPG do not change from state to state... Settle down a bit...
The best mpg I've got was 28 mpg with the ECON mode. Without, I am getting 24 to 26 mpg.
I won't be using ECON anymore 😂
@@wt9653 TBH, controlling how heavy my right foot is has saved me fuel than these gimmicky ECON modes!
I own one. The think about the tailgate is you have to adjust the settings to lock it with your key fob. Also, the bed is quite shallow and it becomes more apparent when you have a tonneau cover. The under body storage is a nice touch to compensate for the shallow bed. Also, many people complain about the new tech in cars, also complain that some things are outdated in this car. I think this has a decent amount of tech. I hate having a computer control the entire vehicle.
I believe that the rear tailgate does have a locking feature that is similar, if not the same as that on my Santa Cruz. Lock the vehicle and the tailgate also locks. If the key fob is out of range of the vehicle, the doors and tailgate remain locked.
Try that and see if the tailgate remains locked.
He was saying the Tailgate would not lock. Are you talking about the tailgate or the trunk?
@@ctbale1 If you press the lock button on the fob, and the fob is still in the vicinity of the RIdgeline, the doors will lock but the tailgate will not lock. Same should be true for the "door" feature of the tailgate. What I'm saying is that you should lock the doors with the fob as normal and then walk away from the vehicle with the fob so you're out of range for the operation of the fob lock/unlock button. Leave the fob inside the house after you lock the doors and then go outside to the vehicle. All the doors and the tailgate latches should be locked. This is how it works on my Santa Cruz, and I'll bet it works like this on the Ridgeline as well. If you have one, try it and let us know.
The trunk inside the bed has a separate lock assembly that is key activated, not fob activated. So it needs to be locked and unlocked manually.
This is correct. I have a '24 and can confirm.
@@ctbale1 Seriously? LOL, everyone is stating the tailgate locks and you keep asking if they mean the tailgate. Yes, the tailgate locks 🙄
@@ctbale1 the tailgate locks!!!!! Car Care NUT needs to read the manual and turn on tailgate locking feature in the setup menus.
i got my 2023 last jan and i love it, no matter what they say its a very good daily pick up vehicle
$89 to disable the VCM. I just did it to my 2019 Pilot. They also make auto start/stop disable harnesses, but my pilot is doesn't have stop/start.
One less thing to deal with
Did you notice any change in fuel mileage?
@@escheidl Too early to tell, just put it in last Tuesday.
@@escheidlI put s-vcm on my 2024. Same mileage. Maybe .5 better. The big reason is engine longevity and it also stops that shudder
@@ctbale1 I think it's the right thing to do even if your mileage were to drop a little. I'm glad it didn't though. Cylinder deactivation is a bad idea.
Thank you for an honest review of the Ridgeline. I recently bought a 2024 and traded my Forester and sold my Tundra. This gives me a great trade off with the ability to pull 5,000 pounds and haul things that would have messed the inside of the Forester without sacrificing the ride. It s a great compromise between the two vehicles. I no longer needed the power to pull 9,000 pounds. It’s really like having both vehicles in one. Very reasonable to insure and only 1 to register. Happy to see you review other makes, I thought you only did Toyota!
CCN you are my go-to with theeeee best car reviews on RUclips!!!! Keep 'em coming, mr. I really like the Ridgeline but dang are they expensive. But I almost went with a Ford Maverick and alas your review (along with other research) confirmed that will not a be vehicle to last up to 100k+ miles.
Timing belt vs timing chain. You mentioned this belt is easier to change. I wonder can a weekend wrencher do it or will it require special tools and lots of patience getting under and reaching through a myriad of hoses and tubes? Timing belt changes, along with idlers, belts, water pump and labor runs about $900-$2000 on some engines. But at least the engine is getting attention and may last longer. Timing chain does not have an interval to change and sometimes last the life of the engine or car. But IF IF they do break it's a major repair. Thoughts?🤔
With my V6 Accord the VCM Is just 2 stages. Either i3 or V6. But to keep my engine from having issues down the road I got rid of cylinder deactivation. It gluts more gas but the performance is instantaneous. It’s like night and day.
I had a 2007 Ridgeline, sold it last year with 200k city miles (not hwy) on it. It was a great truck for my property management business and just general daily driving. I remodeled three (personal) homes with it, and countless rentals. Being able to pick up sheets of plywood or Sheetrock flat in the bed was pretty awesome.
It's a modern day version of an El Camino and that's a good thing.
Carpet in the bed and a six-pack, you're good to go!!
@@theantiqueactionfigure You even have a "cooler" back there to keep the suds cold.
@@cbotten106 I think it comes with speakers in the bed even.
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Wait, the tranny is in the front? Fella told me he blew a tranny in the back of one.😂😂
I can't wait until AMD reviews a Nissan Frontier Pro-4X.
I was actually looking for this video from Car Care Nut weeks ago. Now he finally released one. Thank you!
I have a 2019 with 100k miles and still runs great. All maintenance schedules followed.
YES ! I asked for this for a while - love it. Thank you AMD.
Last year, my 1st gen RL blew a gasket @ 265k odometer so I sold it, picked up a Nissan Titan. In comparison, the RL did practically everything that the Titan does for MY use (daily commute and hauling random things every other week). I see myself going back to RL later on. Hope for hybrid!
It has an electronic tailgate lock that can be enabled or disabled when the doors lock. It can also be then be disabled by a switch on the left side of the glove box.
He was saying the Tailgate would not lock. Are you talking about the tailgate or the trunk?
I had a ‘13 a ‘19 and now drive a Tacoma, the Ridgeline is the smoothest riding pick up, not the most off-road but has many features that I do miss, like the interior comfort and the in bed trunk which makes the space in the bed way larger and offers a dry storage for luggage.
Do Nissan Frontier next. Im torn between it and Honda Ridgeline.
I bought one 3 months ago and love it. The tailgate is lockable through the infotainment screen and the trunk locks separately via a switch in the glovebox. Honda nailed it with this pickup IMHO. The gas mileage is respectable, and it is a typical solid feeling, smooth running Honda. I love the feel and sound of a Honda door, sets them apart from most other vehicles I have driven.
I like that these still have the old SOHC J series, id just deactivate the vcm and enjoy
Hey CCN. MY 2023 allows locking all doors,tailgate and trunk through programming in settings. No worries about tailgate being opened with tonneau cover installed. Thanks for the review of a truck few people love. Had a 2006 and now a 2023. Great vehicle.
I've been thinking about buying one of these and the fact that it is "old school" is what I find appealing about it. The only two things that bother me are the start stop feature and the cylinder deactivation system. I know that it's not complicated to disable the start stop feature, but I wonder how complicated it is to permanently disable the cylinder deactivation system. If I could do it, I would buy me one of these things.
Look up S-VCM, as also mentioned in multiple comments here.
@AlowisciousMahoney I read your reply and checked it out. Seems to be a solid solution and it's inexpensive as well. Thanks a lot for the suggestion!
Great review as usual! I purchased my 2024 Ridgeline TS in late March & I chose the radiant red 2 color.. the best color IMO. The tailgate is locked via the settings in the infotainment.. set to not lock by factory default. Ridgelines seem expensive to those who don’t research them.. they come with more standard equipment than any other midsize truck & are well worth the money.
The tailgate is lockable. There’s a setting in the infotainment system that locks it with the key fob. It be enabled and disabled.
He was saying the Tailgate would not lock. Are you talking about the tailgate or the trunk?
@@ctbale1 both the tailgate and the trunk lock. Once you adjust the settings on the infotainment screen every time you lock the truck with fob it will also lock the tailgate. I’ve had my 24 ridgeline for about 4 months and it does lock. In fact I set mine up in the settings to automatically lock along with truck whenever I walk away from truck with the fob in my pocket
I love the review best 1 I've seen ! But I'll like to add for everyone to know. The tailgate is lockable. My girl has a 2021 Sport and I got the 2022 RTL-E. If you go to your settings on the display you have the option to have your tailgate unlocked all the time or automatically lock when you lock the vehicle. The bed storage area also has a sensor in which you can unlock that compartment when you approach it with your key fob. So overall if you change the settings your tailgate and storage area in the bed will automatically lock when you lock the vehicle.
Been waiting for this one
Really glad you did this video. This vehicle is on my list and I have been doing a lot of research and now I feel very informed. The Ridgeline makes a lot of sense and is extremely practical. I have owned full sized trucks as well as traditional mid size body on frame trucks. I like the new tacoma, but the backseat is too small and that is the same for the Ranger and GM twins. Cargo capacity on this is well above most of the the competition as well. Ridgeline also happens to be a bargain when compared to its competition and that hasn't always been the case.
S-VCM... problem solved. Disable start/stop.- problem solved. Direct injection is the only issue longterm. I've got 50,000 miles on a 2022 Sport AWD, and thinking on trading it in. ZF9 trans has the funky dog clutches that you can feel and hear engaging sometimes. Makes a clicking noise sometimes between 40 and 50 mph when coming on and off the gas. Overall it's smooth though. Has a good bit of wind noise at 55 mph and up. It's a great pickup, but not the best for a lot of stop / start city type driving. I'm wanting the CRV with the 1.5T actually. It's a lot more nimble and free flowing in its drive feel. The ridgeline you feel the downshifts and stuff. This is a really heavy "truck". SUV pickup... about 4500 pounds. I think it's too heavy. Can be rough over potholes and rough roads too. Drives WAY smoother with VCM disabled. And mpg's stayed the same for me. I put some Pirelli Scorpion AS3 Plus tires on and they are more comfortable and very very quiet compared to the stock Firestones that were on it.
Lots of problems with those 1.5 turbo CRV’s
@@jddonahue2 I know about the oil dilution. I think they are generally reliable if you maintain them - change oil often, let turbo cool down after each drive. Not sure about reliability but it really is a tight engine that pairs well with the turbo. Fun to drive
Sold my first gen Ridgeline after 16 years of ownership, besides regular maintenance the cost of repairs was less than $500 CDN and that was a starter replacement.
Towed my boat all over the province, no problems,
Very capable vehicle for its intended purpose.
I would take this (or maybe a Nissan Frontier as a distant second) over the 2.4L turbos Toyota is putting into everything. VCM in this particular engine can be disabled and carbon buildup from the direct injection engine is not known to be a widespread issue. Plus this truck is at the end of its current generation and so they have worked out all the kinks in it. Granted these are still negatives but I think he is a bit unfair in his criticism because what else is there that's better?. He criticized the 2.4L turbo on the RX350 saying that is was underpowered and the resulting drone of the engine made it a poor choice for "nice people" who buy the Lexus. If the previous Toyota 6 cycl NA engine was still available in a new vehicle, I would be all over that in a heartbeat. With where Toyota is going with its powertrains, the hybrid versions are the better alternative except for me as my garage gets super hot during summer with the 100F sun beating down on the westward facing garage doors.
I'd take it over the TT3.5L too at least until Toyota gets that thing sorted.
We have a 2024 RL Trailsport. Standard comes very well equipped. V6 is simple, no turbo crap. The mileage avg is about 25.... no other mid-size comes even close. We love it. That door comes in handy everytime when we have to put / take out something. Rear seats fold to create almost even floor space.
AMD, Of all the unibody, non-truck pickups, the Ridgeline sits at the top of my list. 😉
The only others are the Maverick and Santa Cruz, right? Maverick seems decent, the Santa Cruz is a joke.
Might depend on whether you want a small pickup like the Maverick or Hyundai or a midsize - Ridgeline.
You gotta give that iVTM4 awd system a little more credit as it's also a mechanical torque vectoring system and works pretty well
I recently got a 2024 Black Edition. The tailgate locks and works great with a hard tonneau cover. For daily driving/Home Depot runs it's great. I like that it has no turbo to mess with. The back seats work great with dogs. I flip the seats up and have a couple of dog beds. They aren't flying off the seats or tearing up the leather. I'll test the AWD this winter, but if my '03 BMW 325XI handles better in the snow than my '08 Wrangler in the snow, I'm happy. The Jeep is for off road. I think this is a great little pickup.
I've been waiting for this one
You can lock the tailgate. A combination of the infotainment and switch in the glovebox. I just bought a ‘24 BE and love this. At this point in my life it’s the best overall for me. Smooth ride and plenty of room in the cab. And the storage is plentiful.
You really need to make sure you learn about a vehicle before you talk about it. First, this engine only runs on 6 or 3 cylinders - not 4. Honda did away with the 3-mode VCM a decade ago. Second, all 2020-2025 Ridgelines have a factory-installed tailgate lock.
I came here to make this comment. I agree.
Yup, the 3 mode was the worst version I hear. This one stinks too. S-VCM on my 2024 and smooth as butta
I own a 2017 Ridgeline the first year of the second gen, and love it. It has 139k miles on it and does not burn a single drop of oil, timing belt and water pump done at 105k. I would buy another one in a heartbeat.
cylinder deactivation is the worst thing for cars i would never buy anything with it.
I’d seriously consider for purchase if it didn’t have cylinder deactivation. I like my cylinders active!
I would be ok if you could deactivate the deactivate cylinder activation by default.
You don't understand. Don't worry!
He didn't mention how it works.
You have to push the ECON button to enable the cylinder deactivation.
Just like the start/stop button.
@@halberd0109you can buy a defeat device took me five minutes to install
@@henrygraterol S-VCM muzzler takes care of that. 10 minute install.
Thanks for all your car videos, very impressive! I think the tailgate comes from the factory unlocked but it can be locked using the key fob once it is synchronized from the touch screen. Best!
Is it just me or the videos have recently had low volume levels lately? Have had to turn up our TV a fair bit to hear anything.
I think its you. The volume is only halfway on my volume control on my PC and his voice is pretty loud.
It’s you. Volume is normal.
I had the same thing happen. Check your settings in youtube i had 5.1 surround sound enabled somehow
It seems like his lavalier wasn't working during the under-car portion, but otherwise seems fine to me.
Must be you.
19:45 and 25:45 yes the tailgate does lock. It’s part of the central locking and can be set with the proximity key on all but the base model. I like not having to manually lock it like I had to in my Tacoma, Tundra, etc
Government regulations are killing the reliability and affordability of new car powertrains. Its making it very difficult on manufacturers AND service professionals.
Lack of government regulations, you mean. The car industry basically owns the government agencies responsible for regulating it.
@@antiantiderivativeNot so. Government owns the manufacturers. Want to do business here? They get their cut via kickbacks. The government buys or nowadays tries to buy their votes with promises of money. Fact is We The People still own about 30% of GM. They’ve never fully paid back the tax dollars Obama gave them for their vote. Had he not give them money GM would be gone.
There’s a reason businesses are leaving democrat states. Over regulation. I worked for a utility for 25 plus years. The governments hand is deep into regulatory control and why utilities are sky high. Democrat policies. Here in California democrats shot down two bills that would have lowered costs for the citizens. Why? Because they would have lost their kickbacks in “campaign” funding.
Democrats love big government. Love controlling every aspect of every thing.
What?
Agree it is a total crap what they doing
@@antiantiderivativemore government is always more bad. exactly for the reason you said, they're owned by the companies they control. if you take them out of the equation, actual capitalism can work, then the problem companies go away instead of being propped up by feds. for instance look at American car companies. some of the least reliable you can find, but also most commonly sold because of all the government money
I have a 21 black edition and I love it. Installed a 2” lift and wildpeak 31” tires and of course an oil catch can because it’s direct injection only. This truck should last me years