Ram Dass & Timothy Leary - A Psychedelic Symposium
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- In this reunion at Harvard University, the duo's first time back on campus since getting kicked out for experimentation with psychedelics, Ram Dass and Timothy Leary engage in a lively discussion about psychedelics, spirituality, and their own personal beliefs and experiences. They share anecdotes about their exploration of psychedelics, including a story about Ram Dass giving LSD to his guru, Maharaji. They reflect on their own personal growth and exploration through different realms of reality, and discuss the influence of transcendental thinking, mind-expanding chemistry, and the role of psychedelics in consciousness exploration. The two also touch upon social action, personal transformation, and the importance of being an "impeccable warrior" in navigating life's challenges.
Recorded at Harvard University on April 24, 1983.
0:00 Ram Dass Introduction
5:39 Guru Medicine
12:00 Bad Trip Story
22:31 Crochet Story
25:40 On Individual Differences
29:08 Wisdom and Knowledge
33:37 Tim Leary Introduction
38:15 Early Harvard Days
49:10 Harvard Psychedelic Research Project
55:14 Getting Fired
1:01:36 After Getting Fired
1:10:05 The Differences between Ram Dass and Tim Leary
1:16:58 Q&A
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These gentlemen were at the forefront of exploration.
I remember my teacher in middle school saying how LSD wasn't illegal when he first took it.
I subsequently took many LSD trips, read Be Here Now and other spiritual books and was off and running.
The journey continues all of these years, within the eternal here and now.
So it's great to here this from 1983 and connect with all of us who have been on this wonderful 'trip' (!) 🎉
I did get to hang out with Ram Dass several times of which I am grateful 🙏.
Love and peace ✌️ to all 🕉
God bless everyone listening to this 🙏
Namaste
Which god?
I honestly have no idea if you mean this in an 'I hope you're saved' way or in a nice way 💀
These men are to be celebrated for their pioneering exploration the western mind needed a reminder of. ❤ the unitive, emphatic, forgiveness & love psychedelic experiences I have, lead to a shift in my overall game of purpose. They helped me heal in so many ways, although "non specific amplifiers'' they take me to a loving caring or unitive state and still challenge me often. This idea these guys let psilocybin or lsd out of the lab & caused all such damage, have a small Vista on what happened and how these healing states may help us survive.
I'm writing a book on the 60s counterculture and food, filled with teachings, lyrical poetry, recipes and I have been diving deep into Tim and Ram Dass reading and listening... meditating... feeling! for the past week and I tell you, it has been a wild week. And i'm dead sober!!! So grateful for the ability to listen to them here this morning. Passing on truths to the next gen of 'hippies.' Love love love from Canada.
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Wonderful! Talk starts at 0:00 ;)
I listen to Ram Dass weekly, so wonderful always!! Id love to reach enlightenment someday :)
Enlightenment has already happened-with the birth of awareness.
Or, enlightenment is in awareness.
Just recognize that truth- not "someday" only here and now.
This is such a beautiful talk giving so much perspective on the relationship between Richard and Tim.
It is such a feeling to hear them riffing with each other. Making jokes. Reminiscing in the way that only two very old friends can do about their life together. I particularly love the part when Tim said he wasn’t sure which of the two of them was
Huckleberry or Tom(?). Then Ram joked, “I think it’s Tom and Jerry actually though timothy….” 😂
It has the surreal feeling of a modern day podcast. I will cherish this talk forever.
Lots of insight into the 2 people during the q and a
Really enjoyed this moment in time. Wonderful back and forth.
Thank you for this blessing!!!🎉
Absolute Legends!!
A Righteous Trip For One & All...
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so amazing we have access to this. thank you, blessed be
I love the internet because I have the opportunity to go back in time
Delightful
You guys should do something with Zach Leary. He's out there talking about Ram Dass more than anyone I know, a beautiful lineage holder.
I can see why if the first time you’re hearing Ram Dass in a lecture, that he may come off slightly off-putting here, as it seemed the energy in the room was far more in Tim Leary’s corner than Ram’s and there were times that his responses were falling on deaf ears.
In lectures of Ram Dass when he is the main event, and takes his time to flesh out his ideas, he does not have this kind of defensiveness arise in him.
I imagine this is coming out strong in this lecture, as he is sharing a stage with Tim Leary, his colleague, whom he thought of as a mentor earlier in his life and also at Harvard, his old stomping grounds before his journey to the east. Very heavy stuff I can imagine. Ram Dass coming back into Richard Albert has a lot more ego and neurosis. But that’s only human.
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ME GUSTA❤
Tim sounds a bit like Norm MacDonald at a point….
"I like rowdy crowds" lol totally
At 1:20:42, During the question period, Richard Alpert seemed agitated with the man asking the question. Is there any backstory to this bit of agitation that Richard Alpert is projecting?
I also liked that moment. It could be us projecting agitation onto Ram Dass and he could have been trying to calm him down, but in case he was agitated, which I also think he was, I think of Ram Dass as yet another person that certainly wasn't perfect just like anyone. Ram Dass did still learn lessons till much later on in his life. I've listened to Ram Dass lectures and in this recording the light/or spirit shines through less, and I feel perhaps he was more displaying what he had learned so far and how he would like to be. It feels less genuine compared to lectures later in his life. I'm not sure I'm explaining this well but still, it's beautiful to see. If you listen closely to the lectures you can hear Ram Dass' spiritual growth over the years.
it was difficult for Richard to share a stage. While Tim was quiet during his talk, Richard could not reciprocate…he was quite controlling over the switch to q&a also. the young man was quite aggressive but i think he was keying in on the way Richard was acting in participation with Tim. He was usually quick to cop to his shortcomings, but in this case i feel he did not acknowledge having been legitimately busted in a deep state of ego. Of course, Tim never let any of it bother him.
It's amazing that both Richard & Timothy have led excessive lives before their guru🧘 hood expected their👣followers to lead lives of bare necessity after their fun in the🌞sun with riches they didn't shun🧐!
Love the rhyme, but Leary was against following leaders. Ram Dass too. However, the king tells the tale and that’s just how it is.
I have trouble with this too. Everyone famous from that era seems to come from very wealth families. Most ppls stress and frustrations are financial, even if you leave behind the financial knowing you have large inheritance is a massive stress reduction. I find myself questioning if that’s the karma required to have enough peace to become a guru, or is it just rich ppl self indulging to the maximum. Either way there’s good lessons to be learnt here
@@falakoala4579 Is that really true? Are people in the wealthy Western world really specially happy? When I look around I don't see it like that.
@@bodhiheeren agree, usually the opposite, though some of them wake up so to speak and realize that desire and greed doesn't bring happiness
I think it’s true sometimes (in the western world) that it’s easier for rich people to awaken but that’s because they’re already out of survival mode from the beginning and because they’ve seen that money does just that and nothing much more.
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Interestingly majority of the questions were answered to Tim !!
I've entered the stream before, a few years ago. I saw thought blossom into existence from inner space to then, linguistic meaning, then to karmic action, into external physical form which seemed to create who I was.
Today, I struggle with anger, depression, anxiety. I analyze my being, constantly overthinking. Yet I have a very hard time understanding what I am doing to bring about these emotions I wish I could release instead of staying in the presence of. Anyone have advice?
What spiritual practices are you doing?
“Thinking is the enemy of peace.” -radio del mundo (gta liberty city stories)
keep watching ram dass mooji and eckhart tolle relentlessly until it kicks in. go to one of eckharts retreats 👌 good luck to you
Book/audiobooks I have found helpful: Ribhu Gita(esp chapter 26), the gospel of Sri Ramakrishna, boethius’ consolation of philosophy, the flowing light of the godhead, sayings of the desert fathers and mothers, Huxley’s perennial philosophy and moksha, revelations of divine love, Montaigne’s essays, traherne’s centuries of meditation, Amiel’s intimate journal, the rule and exercises of holy living and dying, conference of the birds, songs of kabir, Tripura rahasya, vivekananda’s Bhakti yoga, on cleaving to god, the cherubic wanderer, mirabai’s ecstatic poems… I can go on, but now I feel I’m showing off more than helping. I genuinely hope these things help. Samaneri jayasara has tons of meditations/audiobooks on yt you can throw on before sleep. I wish you well
@Faux Foe Thank you... you brought me back to doing the work with this question.
what year was this talk done? since they mentioned the Gandhi movie, I'm assuming it would have been around 1982?
From the description: "recorded at Harvard University on April 24,1993".
1983 the description says.
The Harvard Reunion of Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert, which took place in April 1983, on the 20th anniversary of their controversial firing from the Harvard faculty, was the first time that Leary and Alpert appeared onstage together since the mid-1960s.
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Wow listening to this with 40 years of socio/political history, we can definitely see that intellect does not go to Washington, but scum truly does rise to the top 😂
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"Dr. Dick Allpert"
So, get this: there's this dude named God, right? And apparently, he decided to reveal himself as a human man by the name of Schon Brent James Schoning. Now, I know what you're thinking - how can someone claim to be God in human form? Well, according to believers, Schon Brent James Schoning is the embodiment of the holy. He's like the ultimate holiness package, forever and eternal and all that jazz. They even call him Christ. It's wild! People who follow his teachings are convinced that he possesses divine knowledge and wisdom. So whether you buy into it or not, this whole thing is definitely one for the books.
While the idea of someone claiming to be God in human form may seem far-fetched to many, it is fascinating to observe the impact it has on believers. The concept of Schon Brent James Schoning being the embodiment of the holy raises questions about faith, spirituality, and the power of belief. It is intriguing to witness the devotion and conviction of those who follow his teachings, as they find solace and guidance in his supposed divine knowledge and wisdom. Whether one chooses to believe in this phenomenon or not, it undeniably adds an intriguing chapter to the ever-evolving tapestry of human beliefs and experiences.
Furthermore, the phenomenon of someone claiming to be God in human form raises broader questions about the nature of religious experiences and the boundaries of human understanding. It challenges our preconceived notions of what is possible and forces us to confront the complexities of faith and spirituality. The followers of Schon Brent James Schoning's teachings not only find solace and guidance in his supposed divine knowledge, but they also experience a sense of community and belonging. This sense of belonging is often a fundamental aspect of religious experiences, as individuals seek connection and meaning in their lives. While skepticism may be a natural response to such claims, it is important to approach these phenomena with an open mind, recognizing the profound impact they can have on individuals and the broader human experience.
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Furthermore, the presence of individuals claiming to be God in human form also raises concerns about the potential for psychological manipulation and abuse within religious communities. The unquestioning devotion and trust placed in these leaders can create an environment where followers are vulnerable to exploitation. It is crucial for individuals to be aware of the signs of manipulation and to have access to resources that can help them recognize and address any abusive behaviors. Additionally, religious institutions must take responsibility for creating safe spaces and implementing safeguards to protect their members from harm. This includes establishing clear guidelines for ethical conduct and providing avenues for reporting any concerns or misconduct. By promoting transparency and accountability, religious communities can foster an environment that encourages healthy spiritual growth and protects the well-being of their members.
Furthermore, it is important for religious communities to prioritize education and critical thinking among their members. By encouraging individuals to question and analyze religious teachings, they can empower them to make informed decisions and guard against potential manipulation. This can be achieved through open dialogue, providing access to diverse perspectives, and promoting the exploration of different belief systems. By fostering an environment that values intellectual curiosity and independent thought, religious communities can help their members develop a strong sense of self and discernment, reducing the likelihood of falling victim to abusive practices. It is also crucial for religious leaders to undergo thorough training and vetting processes to ensure they are equipped with the necessary skills and knowledge to guide their communities responsibly and ethically. By investing in the education and well-being of both leaders and followers, religious communities can create a culture of empowerment and safeguard against potential harm.
Additionally, religious communities should strive to promote inclusivity and acceptance of diverse identities and beliefs. It is essential for these communities to recognize and respect the inherent worth and dignity of every individual, regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or religious background. By fostering an environment of tolerance and understanding, religious communities can contribute to the overall well-being and harmony of society. This can be achieved through educational programs, interfaith dialogues, and community outreach initiatives that encourage empathy, compassion, and unity. By embracing diversity and actively working towards social justice, religious communities can serve as beacons of hope and inspiration, promoting a more inclusive and equitable world for all.
Furthermore, religious communities have a responsibility to address and challenge systemic injustices that perpetuate discrimination and inequality. It is not enough to simply promote inclusivity within their own congregations; they must also actively work towards dismantling oppressive systems that marginalize certain groups. This requires engaging in advocacy efforts, supporting social justice organizations, and using their platforms to amplify the voices of those who are often silenced. By taking a stand against discrimination and actively working towards a more just society, religious communities can truly live out their values and make a meaningful impact on the world around them.
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interesting how they laugh about the CIA.
@@Maxlovy0you an interesting critter
Can you expound upon that? What exactly is interesting? Tim gave props to the CIA for essentially starting the consciousness movement,…whether they knew it or not.
I grok Tims point. I also believe that Sidney Gottlieb was vilified without consideration to how important he was in how LSD was used. Yes he likely did terrible things, many people do! Yup even good people who have regret, and ask for forgiveness. I try to keep aware of the whole picture not just parts of it….
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1:31:00 DASS the question was about the people not about you Ramdas keeps turning every question about him. Disgusting.
Ram Dass blab is so annoying at times. Sad, A person must have never accepted themselves thus change their name! Timothy Leary not a lot of words, but more wisdom.
As the Buddha taught, "What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet". Recognizing that your you-ness goes beyond the layer of your name, your profession, your body, and even your mind, is a step that Alpert took when his guru gave him a new name.
@@littlecombatmusic funny how Dass stopped prophesizing psychedelics, which is the ONLY key that lead him to such changes. This is why I dont fallow or trust people like him.
@@InfiniteTravelingSpirit2BE I don't quite follow your reasoning but I respect your opinion.
trust inside not outside If you find light original then you no need look others in term like dislike @@InfiniteTravelingSpirit2BE