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“I didn’t marry and I didn’t have children” At least one of those is true, if anyone doesn’t know, Ram Dass is a father, but he didn’t know that at this time
@@moflo6093 I am not a perfect practitioner of this philosophy but in the words of Paramahansa Yogananda: “If joy were ceaseless here in this world, would man ever desire another? Without suffering, he scarcely cares to recall that he has forsaken his eternal home. Pain is a prod to remembrance. The way of escape is through wisdom.”
I loved Ram Dass and I've been following him for quite some time. My question to anyone who can answer is how about someone with c-PTSD? How would this lecture on suffering relate to that condition?
Very interesting how I came across your comment. I’m having a moment. The response that we have developed in order to be safe revolves around not being able to be present because of situations that a child has no business being a part of. Multi generational suffering lol. Suffering can be fun. I’m here to watch the end of the movie. And want movie to be entertaining not stuck on the same episode because I can’t let go.
How does this help someone with ptsd? He’s saying that suffering is just a part of life, and that without suffering there is no happiness and pleasure. So I just see my ptsd as just another phenomenon and that it’s all perfect? I can appreciate the small things, and nature, and just being apart of the universe experiencing itself, but the flashbacks and dissociation overwhelms all of that. It doesn’t matter if I drop my attachments, aversions, social identities, and judgments. I’ve been practicing all of this and ptsd still runs my life. I’m not trying to hold on to any model of who I should be. I’m not choosing to hold onto the past. But how can I just see my ptsd as a gift like he says? Should I “just let it go?” That’s not how ptsd works. I’ve been abused my entire childhood. 20 years of abuse before I got out of it. I have developmental trauma so this is all I know. Ram Dass talks a lot about letting go of the clinging mind, but never really says how to do that besides just living in the moment and saying “ah, so.”
For me personally, I don’t agree with a lot of Ram Dass says (reincarnation, etc.), but I listen to him anyway bc he tends to make me feel calmer. He’s definitely not a substitute for therapy…just saying that because I don’t know how much therapy you’ve done.
I’ve been thinking about what you wrote all day because I know of what you speak. I was raised in extreme violence and the only thing that hurt me worse was the indifference of adults - neighbors, teachers and authorities to what was clearly going on. For years I simmered inside as I got my revenge by becoming successful - but I now understand what Ram and others are saying. They are not indifferent to what was endured by us, they are insisting that we are not what happened to us and we are faced with a choice - to accept what happened or to destroy ourselves in our righteous anger. I promise you this - if you open yourself up to these teachings you will heal in ways that seem impossible when you first begin.
His method towards truth is just that, a method. These teachings are not a cure or get out of jail free card from suffering. It’s a way like a comment stated above to radically except all the fucked up shit that has happened to us with our take of existence. That the only way out of that suffering is that acceptance and the feelings, powers, and privileges that come with that acceptance. The reason that love and service and just throwing your hands to the sky and saying “OKAY! ALRIGHT!” are the best methods is because it does help when someone’s understanding who you are and where you come from to ease the suffering and that if we all strive for that it’s kinda like “either we all go home or none of us go home,” so to speak
@@brookbergsma5089 yes. What I realized was acceptance got snagged on forgiveness and also to accept felt like a betrayal… as if my self worth was at stake. Radical Acceptance is not betrayal and while it can include forgiveness, it doesn’t “have” to before it’s benefits and grace reveal themselves. I started an earnest journey 8 years ago to heal and once I abandoned all the ideas I had formed about what healing was - formed while suffering - I began to get glimmers of peace. Those glimmers were so lovely and true that I’ve been despair-free ever since. Thank you for your comment!
The answer really is just yes. I'm someone who also has some very deep, profound trauma, that I still have to work with to this day. There is, of course, no saying "ah so" when you're in the middle of a flashback, but you can accept that these flashbacks happen once you're calm again. Of course, still take any needed medication and therapy, and accept that too. You don't have to accept everything at once, but the more pieces you can accept, the better you feel. It's slow. It doesn't happen overnight. Sometimes you have to accept one thing before you can accept others. That's why it's practice. It takes a very long time to get to "and this" from such a deep wound, but you can get there, even if it sounds and feels impossible right now. I hope you're doing better than when you posted.
@@thedonwesley5279 Altough he said its much like lsd but lasts that short amount, acid is highly visual i heard 5meo is the most potent but with the least hallucinations or anything just complete cessation of subject and object I heard that he was in early days experimenting with underground stuff like jwh-18 (first synthetic cannabinoid) i heard one talk where he was in short explaining the full trip with it, so i wonder many years later if he tried something quite more exotic than that which is not well known
Ragu was a good friend of ram dass and one of his guru brothers and is promoting the legacy of his friend and teacher not just some guy trying to make money.
@John Springer So what...you have something against Charlatans?? Even if he was one, which he wasn’t, it wouldn’t mean shit to me, to him or to anyone else.
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Ram Dass starts at 11:27
11:27 of Ram Dass merch sales which is rather
Yeah, after the guy finally stops Babbling. 😣😖
@@gingerbee6719 don't hate him!
@@gingerbee6719 hey... it takes a world....even u ginger bee
@@futureproof.health
What do u mean?? I am in grief so plz don't be harsh with me. I am already hurting..😢💔
truth waits for eyes unclouded by longing
Much love and gratitude everyone involved in making these available. ❤🙏🌻
RD, Richard Albert - thanks brother. RIP.
Tilling story about Benares/Varanasi which got me to visit. Intense and beautiful and more much more LOVE 💗
“I didn’t marry and I didn’t have children” At least one of those is true, if anyone doesn’t know, Ram Dass is a father, but he didn’t know that at this time
Or he was making a case to prevent child support 🤣
wha,t who the son?
Citation needed
@@futureproof.health a banker from NC, google it.
Your disgusting...
Ram Ram Ram🍏
This is what helps me make it through my day. Every day. Thank gooodness
Easy way to be at peace is never watch the news ever. Mind your own life.
This One is of the best
Well…. Here I am after episode one last year! What an incredible man Ram is - was …. Is.
Thank you Ram, thank you
Those who dislike please do mention the reason..ramdass loves all...
Suffering: psychological hell but a great boon for the Soul.
Why a boon
@@moflo6093 I am not a perfect practitioner of this philosophy but in the words of Paramahansa Yogananda: “If joy were ceaseless here in this world, would man ever desire another? Without suffering, he scarcely cares to recall that he has forsaken his eternal home. Pain is a prod to remembrance. The way of escape is through wisdom.”
* RD is 63 yrs old at this talk .
What's age got to do with it...
@@dianeward5405 whats love but a second hand notion?
I listen to RD so I have fewer tears on my pillow
@@jonathanpride7331😂😂😂😂😂
That’s just amazing
love
I loved Ram Dass and I've been following him for quite some time. My question to anyone who can answer is how about someone with c-PTSD? How would this lecture on suffering relate to that condition?
What are his views on suicide
I think that's for someone with c-PTSD to tell us! Is it you? How do you feel?
Very interesting how I came across your comment. I’m having a moment. The response that we have developed in order to be safe revolves around not being able to be present because of situations that a child has no business being a part of. Multi generational suffering lol. Suffering can be fun. I’m here to watch the end of the movie. And want movie to be entertaining not stuck on the same episode because I can’t let go.
the vail of the heart is the mind 💯
How does this help someone with ptsd? He’s saying that suffering is just a part of life, and that without suffering there is no happiness and pleasure. So I just see my ptsd as just another phenomenon and that it’s all perfect? I can appreciate the small things, and nature, and just being apart of the universe experiencing itself, but the flashbacks and dissociation overwhelms all of that. It doesn’t matter if I drop my attachments, aversions, social identities, and judgments. I’ve been practicing all of this and ptsd still runs my life. I’m not trying to hold on to any model of who I should be. I’m not choosing to hold onto the past. But how can I just see my ptsd as a gift like he says? Should I “just let it go?” That’s not how ptsd works. I’ve been abused my entire childhood. 20 years of abuse before I got out of it. I have developmental trauma so this is all I know. Ram Dass talks a lot about letting go of the clinging mind, but never really says how to do that besides just living in the moment and saying “ah, so.”
For me personally, I don’t agree with a lot of Ram Dass says (reincarnation, etc.), but I listen to him anyway bc he tends to make me feel calmer. He’s definitely not a substitute for therapy…just saying that because I don’t know how much therapy you’ve done.
I’ve been thinking about what you wrote all day because I know of what you speak. I was raised in extreme violence and the only thing that hurt me worse was the indifference of adults - neighbors, teachers and authorities to what was clearly going on. For years I simmered inside as I got my revenge by becoming successful - but I now understand what Ram and others are saying. They are not indifferent to what was endured by us, they are insisting that we are not what happened to us and we are faced with a choice - to accept what happened or to destroy ourselves in our righteous anger.
I promise you this - if you open yourself up to these teachings you will heal in ways that seem impossible when you first begin.
His method towards truth is just that, a method. These teachings are not a cure or get out of jail free card from suffering. It’s a way like a comment stated above to radically except all the fucked up shit that has happened to us with our take of existence. That the only way out of that suffering is that acceptance and the feelings, powers, and privileges that come with that acceptance.
The reason that love and service and just throwing your hands to the sky and saying “OKAY! ALRIGHT!” are the best methods is because it does help when someone’s understanding who you are and where you come from to ease the suffering and that if we all strive for that it’s kinda like “either we all go home or none of us go home,” so to speak
@@brookbergsma5089 yes.
What I realized was acceptance got snagged on forgiveness and also to accept felt like a betrayal… as if my self worth was at stake.
Radical Acceptance is not betrayal and while it can include forgiveness, it doesn’t “have” to before it’s benefits and grace reveal themselves.
I started an earnest journey 8 years ago to heal and once I abandoned all the ideas I had formed about what healing was - formed while suffering - I began to get glimmers of peace.
Those glimmers were so lovely and true that I’ve been despair-free ever since.
Thank you for your comment!
The answer really is just yes. I'm someone who also has some very deep, profound trauma, that I still have to work with to this day. There is, of course, no saying "ah so" when you're in the middle of a flashback, but you can accept that these flashbacks happen once you're calm again. Of course, still take any needed medication and therapy, and accept that too. You don't have to accept everything at once, but the more pieces you can accept, the better you feel. It's slow. It doesn't happen overnight. Sometimes you have to accept one thing before you can accept others. That's why it's practice. It takes a very long time to get to "and this" from such a deep wound, but you can get there, even if it sounds and feels impossible right now. I hope you're doing better than when you posted.
🙏💜🙏❤🙏💜🙏
12:16 “sticking points in the spiritual journey”
@11:29
Isn’t it true all joy and suffering comes from within who should be responsible for what goes on inside you
Wish the intro wasn’t so long
(11:25)🕊️"You have two wishes remaining. Use them cautiously."
does someone has a clue which chemical was he talkiing about at the end of the talk which lasts 9min
Probably 5-MeO-DMT , I seem to remember he mentions it as toad slime in another talk
@@thedonwesley5279 Altough he said its much like lsd but lasts that short amount, acid is highly visual i heard 5meo is the most potent but with the least hallucinations or anything just complete cessation of subject and object
I heard that he was in early days experimenting with underground stuff like jwh-18 (first synthetic cannabinoid) i heard one talk where he was in short explaining the full trip with it, so i wonder many years later if he tried something quite more exotic than that which is not well known
11:27
A) 💥
11.25
33:56
Am I going deaf
Eventually
If you're hearing it as way quieter than it should be, you're not alone
11:27 Ram Dass starts,
Before that, a human trying to make money
You should appreciate Ragu because he’s providing you the lectures.
Ragu was a good friend of ram dass and one of his guru brothers and is promoting the legacy of his friend and teacher not just some guy trying to make money.
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Ram Dass is a Charlatan
What makes you say that?
@John Springer So what...you have something against Charlatans?? Even if he was one, which he wasn’t, it wouldn’t mean shit to me, to him or to anyone else.
@@BushyHairedStranger Choose Your Gurus Wisely .. Watch out for the Charlatans.
@@johnspringer4870 the Buddha's final message was "Believe no teacher, be your own light."
@@johnspringer4870 Who isn't a Charlatan?
11:27