All about Reverb and Vocals - Pensado's Place
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Dave drills down into an all-tutorial show! We start off with Part 2 of last weeks ITL on drums with Erik Reichers and a 30 minute deep-dive into vocals and reverb effects with Dave.
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Reverb and Vocals talk starts at 12:50
Andybaby Thank you
Thank you!
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+Andybaby Thanks!
yeah boy !!
The hardest part about watching Pensado's Place is finishing an episode! I can't seem to finish in one sitting without running off and mixing because of the ideas you share. Thank you so much Dave, Herb and co.
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'man this lady can sing' , I love how he really feels the music he mixes.
Thank you so much guys, it means so much to me personally to be able to share in your knowledge and philosophy of mixing and music in general. I hope to be able to pass on the love to others too.
Hey i just wanted to say thank you so much for doing these Mr Pensado you are such a blessing and so humble, you are a true inspiration God Bless you !
It’s the third year of me watching this and understanding. Funny how with every passing year’s experience there is a better understanding to absorb for me personally. Now these techniques make more sense in terms of feel as opposed to just the technicalities of it. I am now getting more capable of getting the emotional impact of these reverb/ delay techniques. Thank you for such valuable information. Dave is a legend. Although I am a music producer, you have inspired me enough to look at my production in terms of the mixing result of it. Thank you truly.
- Manik Raina
( DOST. )
One of the best Episodes Ever! I can be watching 2 days of ITL with Dave easily!!
grandee!
That treated vocal sounded unbelievable, amazing, Dave is a true master!! Loved the sound of the Bricasti too!
dont be afraid to add effects to your effects!
Dave, I get inspired every time I watch your videos. Thank you for sharing your hard-earned skills, and for sharing your excitement about the artistry.
I don’t know how amazing he is for sharing his knowledge. Thank you so much for teaching all these years.
Dave you are so awesome for sharing your knowledge with aspiring artists like me. Thank you sincerely.
Jill Scott "relates ALOT to my sensibilities and my tastes!" What a privilege to be entrusted with her voice.
Thank you Dave for giving such a great starting point!
Much respect Big Pen! I clicked on the pre video ad to show some love! I haven't gone to the grocery store to buy some Tillamook medium cheddar cheese yet, because i'm going to watch the video first! Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge!
This video captured my attention intently. IMHO I’ve heard so many songs overuse reverb and delay. Dave knows where and how to set the vocal focus in relation to the song. I’ve repeatedly noticed how he often uses multiple plugins, yet each offering minor adjustments. All this makes me smile with him when he smiles at his own work saying, “That’s pretty good!” 😊
That half an hour flew by... Love listening to this man, makes me feel like everything's gonna be a-o-kay
It's really impressive that the oldest people have the most technical skills in music production / mastering / EQing. Those people are the ones who are responsible for the godly sounding things you hear in the radio.
Please so more of these in depth tutorials! So useful! I´ll watch them any day and I´m sure 90 % of the guys here will! Thanks Dave =)
I appreciate the knowledge, I never thought to put a gated reverb on a vocal.
Thank you SO MUCH Dave! Very helpful tips for my new album. I was looking to tweak my vocal reverb and you hit the nail right on the head.
Thank you Dave! You are such a great inspiration, so good in your craft, and so humble! You really help a lot!
Such a sweet talk at the end. Thanks for all the knowledge sharing. Helped me pick up a lot!
Wow what great insights on reverb. Thanks so much Dave! You’re the man!!!!!
Hey Dave & Herb! Sometimes i come home from a long day at work and want to relax. But if i watch your show on my lunch break, I come home and make Music! Thanks for doing what you do!
I Love You Dude
Just thank you dave 🙏
Dave, this is really good information. So helpful to gain an understanding of how to use these tools to place things in the mix. I've literally watched this 5 times already. Every time, I pick up something new!
Genius! So fun to watch Pensado on action.
Love you man! Thanx for sharring so much with us ,your a god send,life saver.
Great storehouse of knowledge in these videos! Thanks guys.
i hope these in depth videos become more of a regular thing. awesome stuff. i never thought of using a gated reverb and a chamber on the same vocal. i'll try it out
You can watch the video at 1.25 speed.
XD
1.75
i was confused why the reverb sounds funny than i realized i read your comment and speed up the video.I have to watch it again in normal speed now.so Screw u
Thank you! Great stuff. Love you Dave!
Great ITL, thanks for taking the time to go in depth Dave!
Great to have these guys giving back to the community.. Also check out Michael White (former lecturer at SAE (9 yrs)) his youtube vids are masterclasses.. Big up Mr Pensado
Ooh this was so good! Thanks Dave!
AWESOME episode - I like the longer ITL more info ....thanks
Who gives DP a thumbs down? Seriously? You must be mega talented and earning shit loads of wonga. And even then I would have nothing but deep respect for this man. Good luck to you!
GREAT ITL! Really good episode!!! THX
fabulous. lots of info and a lot to think about.
These guys are Godsends!!
AWESOME!!! Thank you! Great stuff Thanks Dave!
great episode! thank you! love the longer in-depth ITL
I learn alot from you guys! Respect.
Great video as always. Learning a lot from you Dave and friends!
-Kal M
Thank you Mr. Pensado
That's great Dave, thanks for that.
Thanks for being awesome Dave. I think I'm gonna buy the BIG SKY REVERB.
Great insights Dave! The idea of choosing a space because of its relevance to the music, like big and small venue, was very inspiring for me, sometimes one loses perspective and just starts adding fx for no reason XD
Also the drum samples tutorial is pure gold!
Dude that was really informative as I'm a musician and learning Logic, plug ins and lots other recording techniques and tools. I have two Octavias 300's and set them up to my mixer and into an interface and whoa what a sound but knew there's waaaay more to learn. Thanks.
the master at work
Thank you Dave, you are a legend!!! Could you please make one on how to mix vocal overdubs? I would be forever grateful!
You are the most awesome man ever.
super tutorial ...thanks
As an artist it's hard to know when you are done polishing your creation. When do you have the right vocal take? When are you done with the production and arrangement? When are you done mixing? When in reality there's ALWAYS room for improvement. Answer: 15:35
Thank you Dave!
"they make about a million plugins and they are about a nickel a piece" 🤣🤣 Dave is so funny
Hey man,good to see ya again...and that's a nice new look for ya.
Dig the hair cut too...So, let's get to work...
Wow, learned a ton thanks!!!
Great video Dave. Keep up the good work!
When you said that line about thinking it was a hallway but it's a concert hall I almost threw my computer out the window - I just learned that when you said it
Great stuff Dave! Thanks
i can't thank you enough for this.
This is really good and covers some interesting principles. Please can you look into remembering to look into doing an episode on 'Chorus' and vocals? Or recording gain structure?
Forever watching pensados place and trying to take some tips and use them in ableton.
Really helpful! Vocal spaces and reverbs can be pretty difficult sometimes... ;)
12:40 "If i say sometimes one more time....." 2 seconds later "He likes to do that sometimes" xD
Awesome ITL! Really helpful video! :)
This is a great video tutorial. Very insightful.
wish i had Dave as a professor back in college.
LEGEND
Really good episode!!!
I get goosebumps every time i ears jewels voice
it is impossible not to listen to you but I will use the imagination greetings from Argentina
Thanks dave
great episode! thx
LOL! I catch myself trying to click and drag things on the screen while I'm watching these vids. I totally just did it @15:53 so I could see the complete plug and settings.
Believe it or not I've never used the C1. I'll have to check it out. I usually use the Rcomp....L2...1176....UAD Tubetechs...have recently looked at the C4. But my recent fave to manhandle unwildly sounds is the DBX160. Kind of a "run of the mill" compressor with not a ton of color that can really put things in line. Sounds like live sound kinda thing. Not real musical but totally has it's place.
I've heard people say they can make a distressor sound like anything they want though so that's also on my list to check out. I'm all in the box at this point so its plugs galore.
By the way...really dig the Klanghelm Mjuc you recommended. Great plug and it's CHEAP. Love cranking the "drive" knob on that baby...but.....you have to use it with something else to really dial things in. But the sound is there for sure. Anyway..love your vids Dave. The fact that this is 5 years old and I'm still here watching says something.
JUST LISTEN...
BEFORE: 14:42 AFTER 37:56 (Almost) OR 39:28 (FINAL with SLAP and INSTRUMENTS)
awesome thanks
You're welcome!
im lovin your videos, im so glad i cam across them. Im wondering if delays and verbs on vocals "should" be mono or stereo? Thanks!
NICE Thanks Man Dave are you using the New Mac Pro your using a lot of Plugins on one Vocal that is a lot of processing going on i am on a older Mac Pro i don't think i can get away with using that many plugins ( YOU SHOULD DO A ITL ON YOU COMPUTER AND PROCESSING NEEDED AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE COOL )
frank rogers You shouldn't have too much of a problem with that amount of processing on a single vocal if you increase your playback engine buffer to 1024 samples while mixing. Dave also uses UAD plugins, which utilizes an external DSP. Even with that much info, I'd love to see how much external DSP he uses.
frank rogers I try to run the buffer as high as possible when bouncing online, as this tends to reduce the chance of error during bounce. Offline bounce doesn't care about the buffer setting, because it renders the audio only as fast as your system will allow. In fact, the only time I run a low buffer is during tracking. It's only then that you can hear any latency, because you have a point of reference to work from (the sound of the instrument you are recording vs. the sound coming out of your speakers).
fantastic
After this lesson I know how to use predelay as musician. Thanks Dave!)
Hey guys question! I know Dave goes in and out of Protools for some parts of his mixing, the 500 series or outboard effects... what converters does Dave have there at his spot? Is he just using Avid?
Y'all gotta get Ali on an episode after the new kendrick album. I would love that
It's amazing that so many great vocals were mixed for so many years and didn't need 8 plugins from eight different plugin makers. It's hard to differentiate Pensado the engineer from Pensado the salesman.
JeffEddy98 Could say the same about black and white movies, but if we can enjoy 4K why not? Lots of freeware plugins out there, too. Now that most DAWs have convolution reverbs we can even use Bricasti impulses for free, just googleit. Isn't that awesome?
+JeffEddy98 I listen to lots of great legendary music from the 60s and those songs are wonderful but the sonic richness is nowhere near compared to when I put on something professionally mixed and mastered in 2015. One can debate whether they like the quality of songwriting now or not; but If you have great speakers you can really hear the audio difference between something mixed then and now. All those old time mix engineers still working today I have heard express nothing but love for having more control and more tools at their disposal.
Different times. Also, some of the gear used to process the vocals from great recordings are not easily available to the majority of engineers or home producers.
And with the unavoidable need to me at least a certain standard of loudness, it is very important to put a lot of time into making sure ALL parts of the vocal manage to meet the task in the mix.
Great Episode!
Really helpful tips in how to treat vocals, thanks Dave!
awesome
So you are saying to add multiple reverbs to a vocal through different aux tracks ?
where he said that? i want to see it
whats the reverb hes using on his desk ?
lookin good dave. nice hair cut
Herbs shirt is fire
dave heres a good question? The vocal lick in this song is great but reminds me of a part from a movie soundtrack? Do you know what that movie is? Its killing me to remember this movie?
Love your channel !!! Great!!! Keep it coming!!!
vaya oidos tienes . eres el mejor
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 14:45 Dave's face!!!!!! FUNNYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOOOOL
39:37 That's what mixing is all about: feel and emotion
That reverb is more like delay+reverb to make an echo.
My biggest criticism/frustration with digital recording, mixing and mastering is "DEPTH"... No matter how LOUD it gets, compared to old recordings, I just never get the feeling of things being 3-D... they just seem "FLAT" (not pitch). I've been doing lots of driving lately switching between old records from the 70's and new stuff...and the tones of the old records sound better, richer, warmer, glassier and have the front to back sound-stage as well as that 3 dimensional factor that digital recording just doesn't seem to get so well... your thoughts?
True. but didn't they have a lot less tracks in a song? now we use too many instruments. to have depth and space we need simplicity, so each instrument will have more of it's own space. you can feel the beauty of the instrument much more. it also has to do with the tube, tape and older gear...even Dave uses 95 % in the box now...
daft punk tried to re create that beautiful sound and style. I like what they ve achieved. I think the majority of us like it.
creative media Yeah, I mean, I've been making records in the digital domain since the early 90's. But when I began interning in recording studios ("Southern Tracks"/"Studio 1"/"Web 4") in ATL, everything was still analog, and I recorded my first stuff analog. I don't think the problem is a function of tracks, though the more things you add, the smaller everything gets. It definitely has a lot to do with tubes, transistors, real capacitors and nobs to turn verses plug ins. And to make an analogy digital is to analog what video is to film... There's a kind of "chemical" magic with film that add's it's own character or "thing" with the emulsion of chemicals. Likewise, there's nothing like the musicality and warmth of "tape compression"...And I even wonder if a lot of what talking about is in the realm of "psycho acoustics" where digital can't record the "over-tones" and inaudible octaves that analog does.
Regardless, I'm getting ready to do a NEW project of my own with very "sparse" production (8 tracks), and I'm using ALL analog recording, all analog outboard and mixing to analog tape as well. I'll probably send the tape master to Disc Makers to make a vinyl record! But I'll do digital files to send to iTunes, Amazon and Google via cdbaby.
Thanks so much for taking the time to reply, my friend.. God bless and peace be to you!
Great. Exactly what you said, I couldn't say better. The idea to use only analog is like a challenge that many of us would live to try. It is interesting to work like that and achieve a desired sound. Only by watching Dave Pensado and Joseph Puig and others talking about making music and I became like... better... I have more drive now :-D nice talking, cheers!
I think what you hearing isn't the difference between digital and analog, but rather different production paradigms. All those mo-town records would have a very similar feeling of space if they were tracked on an hdd. But mic placement and signal chains would be a lot different nowadays.
Where do I sign up for the 2-day reverb seminar?
What I like about you - Dave -
... you make me remember to play - with my daw -
timeless information dude...