Dave and Herb are joined by mix engineer Jaycen Joshua on the 127th episode of Pensado's Place! Please 'Like' and 'Follow'! / pensadosplace / pensadosplace
Dave we need a pensado's place on integrating digital & analog equipment. Signal routing, digital to analog conversion; basically running our sounds through hardware and printing back into protools will us faithful viewers to take the musicality & overall sonic presentation of our mixes to the next level. Thank you, Armen G (TeEmGIFT Låbs)
Jaycen Joshua is probably my favorite mixing engineer at the moment. Great to see him on the show again! His vocal processing and all his EFX are damn near perfect and very creative every mix I hear from him... Thanks again for another GREAT show guys!
thank you so much.I love the show and the Miley Cyrus song is one of my favorite pop tracks of all time.I wasn't expecting the mixer of that track to be on this episode It's amazing to hear his approach. Mike Will did a great job producing, it's truly a pop gem, a milestone, it's like the track of my dreams. Anyway, thank you again, I love how this is the only show where I could both geek out about a Miley Cyrus song and at the same time about a weird, vintage plugin or piece of gear.
I really like the new format in which Dave gets the hit makers of the moment on the show. It is to Dave's and Herb's credit that they knows so many talented people in the industry and I fell very lucky that these technical interviews are available to us.
There was some really, really great advice in this, thank you guys so much for having Jaycen on. I work in a completely different genre of music (Hard Rock/Metal/Extreme metal), but a lot of the advice really crosses over. With that being said, I'd love for you guys to have one of the bigger names in that genre of music on, two suggestions would be Joey Sturgis (who is sure to stir up opinions in the comments!), and Andy Sneap.
when you said he has a lot of things going on the right side of the mix. i was so glad to hear that, i thought my left ear was going out on me. but still it sat amazing in the mix i love it!
Jaycen Joshua has to be one of the greatest hip hop mix engineers out there. His kicks do sound really massive and "bounce-y". I noticed that Mike Will often has his kicks hitting along with his snares - and perhaps to keep his peak meter in check, right now Jaycen Joshua seems to have thought it was best to let go of the snare a bit in such a scenario. If there's anything (in my view) he should be going for, it would be perfecting that delicate combination of kicks & snares hitting altogether, towards a more balanced trade where the snare would actually survive the process. Keep it up Jay!
Man funny he comes across a little secretive and then ends up being one of the most informative guests ever haha! Awesome everyone involved, its things like this that make me glad to be born in this era...
I Love Dave & Herb! Another monumental show, indeed! Jaycen Joshua is The Truth! GREAT. ITL, as well! Much Love & Respect to you guys for disclosing "secrets" of pro mix engineers! This is stuff that audio schools don't really teach. These are techniques learned by "assisting" a great Engineer over a period of years! Thanks!! Oh yea... How about bringing on one of hip-hop's influential mixers from the ATL scene, LESLIE BRAITHWAITE!
Even though I feel guilty asking for anything more than what you guys have given all of us so far, it would be amazing if Serban Ghenea came on the show!!
Dave, I often have similar problems with bass notes sounding drastically louder than others and normal compression never seems to solve the issue. from watching this ITL I see that you are using the C1 side chain to sort this problem out. I was wondering how to go about using this plug in to solve the issue. What should I be looking to target when using this plug in? What parameters are essential to getting it right? cheers
Jaycen Joshua is an extremely talented dude. He's got an intellectual flare to his philosophy -- a philosophy that's very honest and without pretense. That's very rare. He learned from the best, though. ;-)
The best part about this show is that when they talk to this producers and mix engineers they never push Pro Tools, they may mention it in passing because that is the program they all like to use (except for the occasional Fruity Loops shout out) but they never say you can only do what they do in Pro Tools. It is possible in Logic or Cubase to do and sound like they do. I am a Pro Tools user and I love Logic, it's great that this is about the art not the software or hardware.
Thank You Jaycen. WOW. Thank You again for the tips and the advise. and also for not B-S-ING us on the gear and technics you use. You just made me 1000% better.
does gain staging mean making sure the mix bus is not clipping but keeping it at a decent level? so after eq-ing a sound making sure its not clippnig or pushing the mixbuss too far or vice versa...if the level drops after eq-ing adding some gain again?
I know what he means about fl studio instruments are louder when tracked out... I noticed with the latest fl studio versions, when you start a new project, there's a limiter already on the master bus.. I usually take it off right before I make a beat.. Some producers don't...
@Pensado's Place If those are chain diagram Dave looks down at to get an idea to ask a question, I need those diagrams.... never thought of being that organized.
Jaycen did Kevin Gates "Islah" album & that album by far is the best mixed HipHop album I heard in the last 10yrs, as far as im concerned hes the best in the game 💯
What eq or filters do u think are best for splitting tracks into lo/med/hi (like Jaycen mentioned) - so that you don't get overlap or gaps in the freq spectrum?
I am wondering too. All the things he does is more something I would do in the production fase, cause he changes the tone and colour of the bass completely with those plugins. Maybe it works like this in the mix, but we can't hear that, when he just soloes it.
at 44:20 what does he say he uses to draw out the esses and t's? It sounds like he is saying click pane, or clip paint or something. Can't be Clip Paint though, cause that's a graphic programme.
Big Interview : Jaycen's a Gorgan!!! Jaycen's making his own reverb and delay choices and - pitching and changing KIK sounds - HE should be getting "Co-Produced By" credits.... Cause that's Production.. When I deliver files to be mixed,all the stuff is how I want it... All i really expect from a mixer is Eq,Compression,Level Automation,panning And overall polish... Am I doing too much?
+Roger Drakes Depends on how good your engineer is. Sometimes the creative and technical side clash, which ever one is more important in a certain situation will determine if the engineer can offer a technical advantage. Engineer may have a sound choice you find worth scraping a particular creative move for like a certain kick drum. Its no different then a singer hitting the note a little flat and the songwriter says that's fine it adds a little flavor leave it like that.
Развлечения
27:46 scared the hell out of me! hahah
i do too much cocaine for this...
me too
Damn you guys!!! 26:07 made me jump almost taking my whole desk and equipment on the floor!!!
lol
This is the boss "Jaycen Joshua" I'm searching the net for every tip this man gives.
same, especially his usage of saturation
1000!
Rory Panton word
Me too lol
Dave we need a pensado's place on integrating digital & analog equipment. Signal routing, digital to analog conversion; basically running our sounds through hardware and printing back into protools will us faithful viewers to take the musicality & overall sonic presentation of our mixes to the next level. Thank you, Armen G (TeEmGIFT Låbs)
so many nuggets. I literally have to thank Dave and Jaycen for my mixes so much better.
I'll be chopping pillows soon enough haha!
Jaycen has gems for years, Such an amazing engineer! Studying his work for references & his great sonic taste, Thanks for sharing the knowledge! =)
This show is such a great resource for audio engineers of all skill levels. Much appreciated.
"It's taste that you're selling, and nothing else". Love that.
What he said about side chaining the low end of bass when the kick hits is a GEM
+Michael Miller most definitely!!!!
+Theo Bibbs hell yea
+Michael Miller what is GEM ?
A gem is another way of saying a really good piece of advice
Jaycen Joshua is probably my favorite mixing engineer at the moment. Great to see him on the show again! His vocal processing and all his EFX are damn near perfect and very creative every mix I hear from him... Thanks again for another GREAT show guys!
Jaycen: "When I say All day, I mean 5 minutes" lol
thank you so much.I love the show and the Miley Cyrus song is one of my favorite pop tracks of all time.I wasn't expecting the mixer of that track to be on this episode It's amazing to hear his approach. Mike Will did a great job producing, it's truly a pop gem, a milestone, it's like the track of my dreams. Anyway, thank you again, I love how this is the only show where I could both geek out about a Miley Cyrus song and at the same time about a weird, vintage plugin or piece of gear.
What a great episode. Thanks for all the hard work!
Looking at these mixes 7 years apart.
Jaycen Joshua & Derek Ali
The growth
The records
The plaques
damn this whole episode is all GEMS. thank yah all
This goes directly into the favourite-playlist.. so much good information in this episode!
One of my favorite episodes!
prob one of my favorite ones, for tips that i didn't think of. . .love this show
I really like the new format in which Dave gets the hit makers of the moment on the show. It is to Dave's and Herb's credit that they knows so many talented people in the industry and I fell very lucky that these technical interviews are available to us.
I cant stop watching this geez
This guy is a genius!
Great episode one of my favourites so far! Jaycen was really informative and I feel like I learned a lot from him.
Man! Say it like it is !!! .... Definitely worth watching 3 times !! Ton of info !
There was some really, really great advice in this, thank you guys so much for having Jaycen on. I work in a completely different genre of music (Hard Rock/Metal/Extreme metal), but a lot of the advice really crosses over. With that being said, I'd love for you guys to have one of the bigger names in that genre of music on, two suggestions would be Joey Sturgis (who is sure to stir up opinions in the comments!), and Andy Sneap.
when you said he has a lot of things going on the right side of the mix. i was so glad to hear that, i thought my left ear was going out on me. but still it sat amazing in the mix i love it!
Jaycen Joshua has to be one of the greatest hip hop mix engineers out there. His kicks do sound really massive and "bounce-y". I noticed that Mike Will often has his kicks hitting along with his snares - and perhaps to keep his peak meter in check, right now Jaycen Joshua seems to have thought it was best to let go of the snare a bit in such a scenario. If there's anything (in my view) he should be going for, it would be perfecting that delicate combination of kicks & snares hitting altogether, towards a more balanced trade where the snare would actually survive the process. Keep it up Jay!
AMAZING EPISODE! lots of cool tips
I was lucky to have been trained up by an engineer called Brad Davis from NY. You so remind me of him. It makes me smile. I love you Dave.
This was the best episode for me, Jaysen brought up two situations that has been on my mind
Thank You Pensado's Place and Jaycen Joshua 🙌🙌🙌🙌Very Helpful Video 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
One of the best vids!!
This one was great thanks Pensado!
It just keeps getting better !
Amazing show and super tips!!!
Underviewed interview, fo sho.
Loving the show from Detroit!
Man funny he comes across a little secretive and then ends up being one of the most informative guests ever haha! Awesome everyone involved, its things like this that make me glad to be born in this era...
Got some great info on this! Thanks guys!
this is the only guy that actually shares good shit
Dave - legend!!!
I'll be glad glad if someday i make a record that good to be invited and talk. No secrects is the key!
I Love Dave & Herb! Another monumental show, indeed! Jaycen Joshua is The Truth! GREAT. ITL, as well! Much Love & Respect to you guys for disclosing "secrets" of pro mix engineers! This is stuff that audio schools don't really teach. These are techniques learned by "assisting" a great Engineer over a period of years! Thanks!! Oh yea... How about bringing on one of hip-hop's influential mixers from the ATL scene, LESLIE BRAITHWAITE!
Even though I feel guilty asking for anything more than what you guys have given all of us so far, it would be amazing if Serban Ghenea came on the show!!
one of the best episodes no doubt
great episode!
lmao at the Tip Of The Century graphics and musical cue coming out of nowhere! Priceless.
fucking hell... that izotope trick is so awesome thank you so much for sharing this... this show explodes my mind everytime
This one is full of gems
Dave, I often have similar problems with bass notes sounding drastically louder than others and normal compression never seems to solve the issue.
from watching this ITL I see that you are using the C1 side chain to sort this problem out.
I was wondering how to go about using this plug in to solve the issue. What should I be looking to target when using this plug in? What parameters are essential to getting it right?
cheers
Jaycen Joshua is an extremely talented dude. He's got an intellectual flare to his philosophy -- a philosophy that's very honest and without pretense. That's very rare. He learned from the best, though. ;-)
The best part about this show is that when they talk to this producers and mix engineers they never push Pro Tools, they may mention it in passing because that is the program they all like to use (except for the occasional Fruity Loops shout out) but they never say you can only do what they do in Pro Tools. It is possible in Logic or Cubase to do and sound like they do. I am a Pro Tools user and I love Logic, it's great that this is about the art not the software or hardware.
thanks guys!
Thank You Jaycen. WOW. Thank You again for the tips and the advise. and also for not B-S-ING us on the gear and technics you use. You just made me 1000% better.
"That can give you a bowel movement" Still the best one liners from Dave.
does gain staging mean making sure the mix bus is not clipping but keeping it at a decent level? so after eq-ing a sound making sure its not clippnig or pushing the mixbuss too far or vice versa...if the level drops after eq-ing adding some gain again?
now I got to go back and start over on all my mixes lol
17:59
Dave : What a great technique. where did you learn that?
Joshua : You
thank God for 26:10
+stereo_steve You want to make tomorrows Hip Hop record? Study EDM music, word up!
I know what he means about fl studio instruments are louder when tracked out... I noticed with the latest fl studio versions, when you start a new project, there's a limiter already on the master bus.. I usually take it off right before I make a beat.. Some producers don't...
God, do I hate this DAW.
@@alxitso Ok, and?
@@hailemoses8586 Just that.
@@alxitso Ok cool.
@@hailemoses8586 Cool.
I mean not only for this video but for every personalities that you receives
gold!
Love the TSAR Reverb
the graphics and the jingle of "best tip of the century" thang scared the shit out of me
@Pensado's Place If those are chain diagram Dave looks down at to get an idea to ask a question, I need those diagrams.... never thought of being that organized.
So cool. thanks for this great show.
Jaycen did Kevin Gates "Islah" album & that album by far is the best mixed HipHop album I heard in the last 10yrs, as far as im concerned hes the best in the game 💯
Agree
did the one at his studio happen? that would be dope
What eq or filters do u think are best for splitting tracks into lo/med/hi (like Jaycen mentioned) - so that you don't get overlap or gaps in the freq spectrum?
I think any EQ would do. A parametric EQ typically
excellent
Can Somebody tell me which record they are making constant reference to please
What reverb y’all talking about?
Good show!! That tip of the day FX scared the shit out of me twice!!
Can someone tell me the title of the record that they are talking about please?
damn that was the tip of the century
Dope
Hey guys anyone know of any plugin for mp3 preview for pro tools?
iZotope Ozone Codec Preview or even RoundTripAAC if you're on a Mac
I am wondering too. All the things he does is more something I would do in the production fase, cause he changes the tone and colour of the bass completely with those plugins. Maybe it works like this in the mix, but we can't hear that, when he just soloes it.
You guys is da bizness. :-)
Dave is so funny. xD
Cool episode. Not sure about the example in the ITL though, it just sounded very off to me.
dude the tip of the century is so loud it's so funny
44:18 "...which we do now with ????? which is remarkable..." what does he say there?
Hi, i like your channel but you must put in the first line in the description the name of the artists he worked with
Thanks
Epic Polo in this episode
at 44:20 what does he say he uses to draw out the esses and t's? It sounds like he is saying click pane, or clip paint or something. Can't be Clip Paint though, cause that's a graphic programme.
Clip gain.
Hey guys! What is the reverb you are talking about at 18:37?! Please!!! Thank you!
I want to know too
Bricasti
Bricasti M7
not gonna get to hear the processed bass in the mix?? ;)
Best in the world
The second tip of the week scared me when it came on lol.
what did he say at 21:20? "the breakbeat of Life"
Don't watch this when you smoke a pound super skunk,.. at least i could smoke another pound after the scare haha
oh my god tip of the century for real
Why you guys don't talk like this on technical terms now days episode I'm watch it in 14 may 2021 just bcz his mixing philosophy
First time ever ive heard herb say JESUS hahaha
Look it up.
David Blaine of audio
15:10 is something that took me years to figure out.
Who is the mixing engineer that Jaycen mentioned at 41:15?
Big Interview : Jaycen's a Gorgan!!!
Jaycen's making his own reverb and delay choices and - pitching and changing KIK sounds - HE should be getting "Co-Produced By" credits.... Cause that's Production..
When I deliver files to be mixed,all the stuff is how I want it...
All i really expect from a mixer is Eq,Compression,Level Automation,panning And overall polish... Am I doing too much?
+Roger Drakes Depends on how good your engineer is. Sometimes the creative and technical side clash, which ever one is more important in a certain situation will determine if the engineer can offer a technical advantage. Engineer may have a sound choice you find worth scraping a particular creative move for like a certain kick drum. Its no different then a singer hitting the note a little flat and the songwriter says that's fine it adds a little flavor leave it like that.
what reverb are they talking about at 18:40?
Bricast m7
my nigga
Bricasti M7
hey man dont hate, top 40 is the top class of music that comes out and it can sound like anything