Kotor 2 was already pretty great, but if they actually got to finish it, it would have been so mind blowing. I only wish all of this had played out and continued into a kotor 3.
agreed i've played it a few times with restored content mod and it has become my favorite game of all time. i wish obsidian could've finished and released their kotor 3 as well
As with all obsidian games, always unfinished, always pressed of time, always out of budget, like kotor 2 and fallout new vegas, sucks, wish they can make a game where they could really take their time and finish something. Sigh
@@RetardEd001 Well they did with The Outer Worlds, but it wasn't very good sadly. I'm guessing that a lot of people that worked on New Vegas and KOTOR 2 weren't involved though.
@@MightyPontarches Well they can only restore so much. If the proper assets were unavailable, then even if they want to, they can't restore it. I imagine in this case there weren't enough voice lines for Atris Traya to make a satisfying ending.
Blame Lucasarts for mandating that Christmas release. The fact the game works at all, and that what we have is as deep and philosophical as it is is something of a minor miracle. Obsidian made something special, and I'd love to see a KotOR II finished and finalized the way they wanted.
@@theuberedredspy8791 True. New Vegas is another brilliant example. Imagine if they had a sane production cycle. We'd get either the greatest game of all time, or a trash fire as the lack of hard constraints drive them all nuts and they become too ambitious for their own good.
@@theuberedredspy8791 I have a pet theory that Obsidian is really good at making sequels. When the basis is already their for them, they can put all their power into the story and world and making the mechanics more fun. You see it in KotOR II, NWN 2 and New Vegas. But you also see it in a way with Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2. The second is vastly more expansive in terms of mechanics, while the first game is basically just the setting and a decent system being set up. The same goes for The Outer Worlds. The mechanics and variety feel a bit basic, but a lot is being set up. I like the game, it does its job, but it could be more. Which makes me very interested in The Outer Worlds 2, I'm curious whether my theory holds up.
I really hope that when they do the remaster/remake for the second game, they actually complete all the unfinished code. There's extra dialog and a bunch of unfinished code because they didn't have the time to finish it. I wanna see the extra bosses and I wanna see the extra areas that they cut from the game. Also fix the math puzzle in the sith tomb
KOTOR 2 is one of those games that really should get a remake. They should stop remaking games that were fully polished and had reached their full potential. They should remake games like this. That have a brilliant concept and are good but just are rough in a few areas and had a few questionable design decision holding them back.
I remember back before the game launched the game's website featured a reel of voice lines from many characters. I distinctly remember now that one of those lines was Atris saying "Children with lightsabers, but not Jedi I think". She never says this in the final games but now I know it was from when they were planning on having her be the final boss.
I sorely hope this is one day patched into TSLRCM! From what I know, Kreia was supposed to sacrifice herself at Telos, leading Atris to become Darth Traya. I would love to experience this ending, the concept is splendid!
Problem is it would completely change a lot of scenarios, which they probably don't even have the voice lines for. Other than the fact they'd completely change the ending, I don't think there's even enough resources to make this happen. Would've been a cool alternate ending if you have high influence with Kreia, I think
Yeah that’s one thing I never understood. Influence with kreia is kinda useless aside from learning more about her past but she still betrays you and joins the sith even if you’re dark side. Strangely enough she actually seems a lot more caring and more on your side if you spared all Jedi masters then not despite the fact she kills them if you spare them anyways. I’m just saying what if I wanted to take over these sith or this academy like in kotor 1?
@@michaelrandolph6373 Kreia didn't kill them, at least not directly. They died because they refused to live without the Force, once she stripped them of it. She wanted them to live without the Force, as they made the Exile do, but they could not let go of it and died holding onto their connection to it.
@@Nezxmi I suppose but that’s like saying “I didn’t kill them I just tried to force them to live without food but they could not let go of it”. The force is a Jedi’s life blood and taking it away from them is like taking away their sight.
@@michaelrandolph6373 "The Force is a Jedi's life blood.." No, that is just what is widely believed. The whole point of Kotor 2 is that the Jedi have been wrong and that their view of the Force is flawed, just like the Sith. It is not some inherent force in the galaxy, people have only come to believe so. The Exile proves this and Kreia confirms it. Kreia says "In times past and in times future, there are Jedi who will stop listening to the Force, those that will try to forget it, but maintain unconscious ties. And those, as in the past just as I, who have had the force stripped from them. But no Jedi ever made the choice you did. To sever ties so completely, so utterly, that it leaves a wound in the Force." Kreia also says "In you, they see the death of the Force." What she means is that Meetra's very existence is proof that severing is possible, and that if it becomes known others could follow suit. Should enough people sever ties, the Force could die. Kreia believes the Force is a malevolent force in the Galaxy. "It is said that the Force has a will, it has a destiny for us all. I wield it, but it uses us *all,* and that is abhorrent to me. Because I Hate The Force. I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some matter of balance, when countless lives are lost! But in you.. I see the potential to see the Force die.. To turn away from it's will. And *that* is what pleases me." She may be a bit crazy for that part, but she absolutely has a point that the Jedi teachings are flawed and their beliefs about the Force being so inherent to life and the Galaxy are incorrect.
I hope that 1 day when KOTOR Remake has released and provided it's a success, they go on to KOTOR 2 Remake then we get the game how it was meant to be in it's complete entirety.
I hope not, cause the starting game plot of KOTOR 2 ruins Revan as a character by making him a complete idiot who’s willingly step on the same rake, leaving the love of his life (pregnant or with newly born child) to disappear in the unknown regions, without telling anyone where and why he’s gone. Hack, he didn’t even took his droids with him. Not even used his own ship... how much dumber and illogical they could made him? Well, at least Exile in book was a little bit smarter - did the same dumb shit but with T3-M4 as companion and in Ebon Hawk. And died in vain. Honestly, the whole plot after first game is disappointing, but it all started with the KOTOR 2.
It still amazes me how KotOR II was such a great game. It's rare to find sequels that live up to the first game, but even though I'm a big Revan fan, I think I like KotOR II even better. Kreia was a great character, and figuring out her unique perspective was really fun and rewarding. Though sometimes it was also vexing and annoying, but in the best possible way. And though Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus were both a little one dimensional, they were still very very cool. They each had an excellent and unique strength that also served as a flaw. They didn't do much, but they exuded menace. You could feel the pathos rolling off the both of them. And even their unidimensionality is a strength for the narrative structure, because you get the sense that they each had to sacrifice so much of themselves in order to gain such tremendous power on their chosen paths. This rather neatly explained what would otherwise be considered a lack of character development. It also made them tragic figures, despite their great power, making them somewhat more relatable. Furthermore, instead of just leaving it at that and trying to cover up the lack of character development for these villains, the story actually highlights it. Kreia points out this flaw of theirs, and rather callously dismisses them both as slaves to the force in conclusion. So instead of being poorly written well rounded characters, they were deliberately written unidimensional characters. Which was done very well too, I might add. And that's just the three of them. There's a great supporting cast of characters too. T3-M4, HK-47, G0-T0, and that's just the droids! There's the Mandalore, who's a cool returning character. Atton, who's like a darker, better Carth. Bao-Dur, who despite sounding like he's on valium all the time actually has a really tragic backstory in there. And then there's my favourites (apart from Kreia): the Handmaiden and Visas Marr. Both of whom served powerful masters that failed them. Visas is basically the darker, more scared and traumatised mirror for the Handmaiden, which is understandable given she served Darth Nihilus as compared to Atris. Speaking of whom, she is also yet another fascinating character from this game. The Jedi Masters are all interesting in their way, but Atris is the most interesting. Anyway, talked a lot, said little. Basically, really great game, and a worthy successor to the original. Loved the series.
For this straight to the point video, that doesn't have a lot of words without saying much, as so many other creators do, I salute you. And I also like and subscribe.
Ha! I remember having (still do) the same Prima strategy guide for Kotor II. I remember being super confused when I reached Atris' academy the second time around and there was no 'Darth Traya,' I thought my game was broken.
Whoa this is pretty neat! I did see info on cut content of atris dressed as Darth Traya but since I’ve only played with the restored content mod I only see Nihilus and the twin suns
The Restored Contend Mod is such a necessity for Kotor 2. If you have used this mod, please do! A team of 3 people restored all the missing things and then some to this game to return it to its original glory! If you are at all interested in the blood sweat and tears that those three put into this mod for us to enjoy, please check out the documentary here: ruclips.net/video/hoft-esLdnw/видео.html&ab_channel=Xuul P.S. I am just a huge fan of this mod
Yeah I was kinda shocked when they added it to mobile they didn’t collaborate with the modders. I would pay triple the price of the actual game for the complete experience and would do the same for kotor 1 to maybe add a lot of kotor 2’s features. The fans want this and would gladly pay for it why don’t they want to make money?
Glad to know it wasn't a hallucination with that guide for me it always upset me that it shows pictures of stuff that's impossible on a vanilla xbox copy like kreia with two hands.
WHAT?! Buddy, you are missing out. But if you’re watching the videos than I guess you know the story so not missing too much. But the journey of playing it was more the reward. I still go back to the games like every other year lol
a 2022 remaster of this game, with a more Fallen Order control style and updated graphics, plus all the deleted content restored would absolute make my life. this game nails atmosphere so well.
I wasn't too fond of Fallem Order's gameplay. Think I'd rather have something not so far removed from the original. There are ways to make it more engaging and refined.
@@ElectromagNick I agree. I don't think the Fallen Order style gameplay would work well with KOTOR as having that style of gameplay would stray way too far from the original gameplay style and it just wouldn't work at all. To be honest I would much prefer the KOTOR remake to have a similar style of gameplay like that of the original game but just make it a little less clunky than it originally was.
I see you took my advice from "*Rare* Dark Side Playthrough Menu Easter Egg in KOTOR 2" video. This now settles the Easter Egg in KOTOR 2 main menu for good.
Kotor 2 on Xbox 360 from the Xbox store, ending, Kreia talks about Atris & the queen of betrayal & there always needing to been a Darth Traya. I was confused because I spared her but I guess that's one reference they didn't quite totally take out. Pretty cool
Is it just me or does this version of Darth Traya look a bit like The Evil Queen ( before the creepy transformation) from Disney's Snow White And The Seven Dwarves?
I bought the guide and was unspeakably disappointed that tye arc was cut from the game. Unlike KOTOR which felt very contained and complete in itself, my complaint about KOTOR II was that it felt very truncated with hints of missions or options that never actually go anywhere. Another error that can be seen are hints of a two handed Kreia on Dxun in certain game related photographs. Further, only five characters had good designs: Kreia, Atris, Atton Rand, Vissas Marr, and Darth Nihilus.
I never knew this actually. I wish we saw that model somewhere else as a new villain. Could be a really cool character in something similar to the Coruscant mod
They need to make a Knight's of the old Republic movie series. It is easily the best story in all of star wars. And it's a story long enough to make at least 3 movies and get a new trilogy going. If they got a director and producer who ACTUALLY HAD TALENT and a true desire to make the movies in a way that stays loyal to the story and timeline of star wars. It would easily be the best star wars movies period.
I agree. I heard originally kotor 3 was supposed to be either you playing as revan or a different character trying to find and help revan in the unknown regions. Apparently there was a huge sith empire out there and Revan went there to find something maybe the sith emperor. Would’ve been awesome to finally see a new civilization as long as it’s pretty similar to the republic with many of the same species but let’s see some chiss walking around and maybe a different more sith architectural style.
Oh absofuckinglutely. Hands down the best Star Wars stories I have seen, including all the Star Wars games and other lore that I'm aware of. Admiral Thrawn was a good character and so some of his stories would be cool, and apart from that I'd love to see some of the Old Republic and Sith Empire stuff too. But definitely the whole Revan/Surik/Kreia story, faithfully told, would be the best.
I knew that Kreia was Darth Traya, and I knew Atris was a fallen Jedi, that would be clear to any half-wit. But that Atris was another Darth Traya, that was unexpected, well, Meetra Surik still ended the both of them.
Unpopular opinion darth sion is the coolest character in this game the cut scene where he choke slams the sh***t out of kreia is one of my favorite star wars scenes in any game
I'm actually glad that this idea was scrapped. Atris is much more obnoxious than Kreia, and wouldn't give the ending the same sense of uneasiness and ambiguity. Besides, the new outfit and "queen of betrayal" are really cringy - much more so than Kreia's black robe. And even this was a bit much, considering that Kreia doesn't consider herself a Sith and doesn't fit the whole "evil final boss vibe". It would be really hard to take it seriously, especially in such a nuanced game
I much prefer Kreia. I'm glad that Atris can't be a final boss. Honestly, Atris is symbolism. Pretty much everything wrong with the Jedi. Having her as the final boss would detract from this.
Its sad what they did to this game but even the fucked up version is a great game let alone the restored version is amazing I hope that the kotor remake is real and is made so amazing it just blows away all these other games simply because kotor is itself a masterpiece if it was to be made with todays technologies Ahhhh shit son we about to to be swimming in a amazong immersive game that nobody will be able to beat for GOTY edition
This would have been SOOO much better. My biggest problem with KOTOR 2 was always the villains. Nihlus is dull and stupid. Kriea is obnoxious and not very compelling. Only Sion was solid and sadly rather than be the main baddie, he was a glorified henchman. Atris pulling the strings all along or being the actual Sith Lord at the end would've been an awesome twist that would've been memorable and compelling.
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Pimp master Nihilus is best Nihilus.
He is probably feeling awkward and holds on to his dignified posture out of shyness.
Hes not the lord of hunger, he the lord of thirst
I got a question can you keep playing after you beat the game unlike Star wars knight of the old Republic 1
@@x0Kris0x No. The game ends.
@@PapitoQinn ty wish it didn't tho don't really like games like that but I just bought it for Xbox one
Kotor 2 was already pretty great, but if they actually got to finish it, it would have been so mind blowing. I only wish all of this had played out and continued into a kotor 3.
agreed i've played it a few times with restored content mod and it has become my favorite game of all time. i wish obsidian could've finished and released their kotor 3 as well
As with all obsidian games, always unfinished, always pressed of time, always out of budget, like kotor 2 and fallout new vegas, sucks, wish they can make a game where they could really take their time and finish something.
Sigh
@@RetardEd001 Well they did with The Outer Worlds, but it wasn't very good sadly. I'm guessing that a lot of people that worked on New Vegas and KOTOR 2 weren't involved though.
I don't.
When I think I know most of what there is to know about KOTOR, you drop this vídeo 😂
This is dope. I never knew but always felt like she was somebody we should of fought eventually. Glad to see the devs thought so too!
I mean you do fight her anyway. Just, as Atris. And if you play TSLRCM you'll discover she was Darth Treya in all but name really
@@mar_speedman I'm amazed the Restored Content Mod team knew about this and didn't restore it.
@@MightyPontarches Well they can only restore so much. If the proper assets were unavailable, then even if they want to, they can't restore it. I imagine in this case there weren't enough voice lines for Atris Traya to make a satisfying ending.
From a story sense, that would've worked really well as a bait and switch. Sad to see it got cut.
Yeah. It sucked that you could never please Kreia & all paths lead to the showdown. I'd love an inevitable Traya battle but choices dictate which one.
Blame Lucasarts for mandating that Christmas release. The fact the game works at all, and that what we have is as deep and philosophical as it is is something of a minor miracle. Obsidian made something special, and I'd love to see a KotOR II finished and finalized the way they wanted.
@@ElectromagNick Obsidian is for some reason really good at making RPG masterpieces under extreme rushing and deadlines.
@@theuberedredspy8791 True. New Vegas is another brilliant example. Imagine if they had a sane production cycle. We'd get either the greatest game of all time, or a trash fire as the lack of hard constraints drive them all nuts and they become too ambitious for their own good.
@@theuberedredspy8791 I have a pet theory that Obsidian is really good at making sequels. When the basis is already their for them, they can put all their power into the story and world and making the mechanics more fun. You see it in KotOR II, NWN 2 and New Vegas. But you also see it in a way with Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2. The second is vastly more expansive in terms of mechanics, while the first game is basically just the setting and a decent system being set up. The same goes for The Outer Worlds. The mechanics and variety feel a bit basic, but a lot is being set up. I like the game, it does its job, but it could be more. Which makes me very interested in The Outer Worlds 2, I'm curious whether my theory holds up.
the fact that im discovering this in 2022 its awesome; i think its time to go back to kotor 2 after 10 years :)
you waited 10 years? i replay it every so often
@@Cornholio8787 i dont have as many hours to play games as i had 10 years ago, so i cant replay that many games now :(
I really hope that when they do the remaster/remake for the second game, they actually complete all the unfinished code. There's extra dialog and a bunch of unfinished code because they didn't have the time to finish it. I wanna see the extra bosses and I wanna see the extra areas that they cut from the game. Also fix the math puzzle in the sith tomb
Daaaaaaamn.... I’ve played this literally countless times and I had no idea. Thank you, good sir.
My pleasure
KOTOR 2 is one of those games that really should get a remake. They should stop remaking games that were fully polished and had reached their full potential.
They should remake games like this. That have a brilliant concept and are good but just are rough in a few areas and had a few questionable design decision holding them back.
I remember back before the game launched the game's website featured a reel of voice lines from many characters.
I distinctly remember now that one of those lines was Atris saying "Children with lightsabers, but not Jedi I think". She never says this in the final games but now I know it was from when they were planning on having her be the final boss.
Kreia says this
I sorely hope this is one day patched into TSLRCM! From what I know, Kreia was supposed to sacrifice herself at Telos, leading Atris to become Darth Traya. I would love to experience this ending, the concept is splendid!
Problem is it would completely change a lot of scenarios, which they probably don't even have the voice lines for. Other than the fact they'd completely change the ending, I don't think there's even enough resources to make this happen. Would've been a cool alternate ending if you have high influence with Kreia, I think
Yeah that’s one thing I never understood. Influence with kreia is kinda useless aside from learning more about her past but she still betrays you and joins the sith even if you’re dark side. Strangely enough she actually seems a lot more caring and more on your side if you spared all Jedi masters then not despite the fact she kills them if you spare them anyways. I’m just saying what if I wanted to take over these sith or this academy like in kotor 1?
@@michaelrandolph6373 Kreia didn't kill them, at least not directly. They died because they refused to live without the Force, once she stripped them of it. She wanted them to live without the Force, as they made the Exile do, but they could not let go of it and died holding onto their connection to it.
@@Nezxmi I suppose but that’s like saying “I didn’t kill them I just tried to force them to live without food but they could not let go of it”. The force is a Jedi’s life blood and taking it away from them is like taking away their sight.
@@michaelrandolph6373 "The Force is a Jedi's life blood.." No, that is just what is widely believed. The whole point of Kotor 2 is that the Jedi have been wrong and that their view of the Force is flawed, just like the Sith. It is not some inherent force in the galaxy, people have only come to believe so. The Exile proves this and Kreia confirms it.
Kreia says "In times past and in times future, there are Jedi who will stop listening to the Force, those that will try to forget it, but maintain unconscious ties. And those, as in the past just as I, who have had the force stripped from them. But no Jedi ever made the choice you did. To sever ties so completely, so utterly, that it leaves a wound in the Force."
Kreia also says "In you, they see the death of the Force." What she means is that Meetra's very existence is proof that severing is possible, and that if it becomes known others could follow suit. Should enough people sever ties, the Force could die.
Kreia believes the Force is a malevolent force in the Galaxy. "It is said that the Force has a will, it has a destiny for us all. I wield it, but it uses us *all,* and that is abhorrent to me. Because I Hate The Force. I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some matter of balance, when countless lives are lost! But in you.. I see the potential to see the Force die.. To turn away from it's will. And *that* is what pleases me."
She may be a bit crazy for that part, but she absolutely has a point that the Jedi teachings are flawed and their beliefs about the Force being so inherent to life and the Galaxy are incorrect.
I hope that 1 day when KOTOR Remake has released and provided it's a success, they go on to KOTOR 2 Remake then we get the game how it was meant to be in it's complete entirety.
I hope not, cause the starting game plot of KOTOR 2 ruins Revan as a character by making him a complete idiot who’s willingly step on the same rake, leaving the love of his life (pregnant or with newly born child) to disappear in the unknown regions, without telling anyone where and why he’s gone. Hack, he didn’t even took his droids with him. Not even used his own ship... how much dumber and illogical they could made him?
Well, at least Exile in book was a little bit smarter - did the same dumb shit but with T3-M4 as companion and in Ebon Hawk. And died in vain. Honestly, the whole plot after first game is disappointing, but it all started with the KOTOR 2.
It still amazes me how KotOR II was such a great game. It's rare to find sequels that live up to the first game, but even though I'm a big Revan fan, I think I like KotOR II even better.
Kreia was a great character, and figuring out her unique perspective was really fun and rewarding. Though sometimes it was also vexing and annoying, but in the best possible way.
And though Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus were both a little one dimensional, they were still very very cool. They each had an excellent and unique strength that also served as a flaw. They didn't do much, but they exuded menace. You could feel the pathos rolling off the both of them.
And even their unidimensionality is a strength for the narrative structure, because you get the sense that they each had to sacrifice so much of themselves in order to gain such tremendous power on their chosen paths. This rather neatly explained what would otherwise be considered a lack of character development. It also made them tragic figures, despite their great power, making them somewhat more relatable.
Furthermore, instead of just leaving it at that and trying to cover up the lack of character development for these villains, the story actually highlights it. Kreia points out this flaw of theirs, and rather callously dismisses them both as slaves to the force in conclusion.
So instead of being poorly written well rounded characters, they were deliberately written unidimensional characters. Which was done very well too, I might add.
And that's just the three of them. There's a great supporting cast of characters too. T3-M4, HK-47, G0-T0, and that's just the droids! There's the Mandalore, who's a cool returning character. Atton, who's like a darker, better Carth. Bao-Dur, who despite sounding like he's on valium all the time actually has a really tragic backstory in there.
And then there's my favourites (apart from Kreia): the Handmaiden and Visas Marr. Both of whom served powerful masters that failed them. Visas is basically the darker, more scared and traumatised mirror for the Handmaiden, which is understandable given she served Darth Nihilus as compared to Atris.
Speaking of whom, she is also yet another fascinating character from this game. The Jedi Masters are all interesting in their way, but Atris is the most interesting.
Anyway, talked a lot, said little. Basically, really great game, and a worthy successor to the original. Loved the series.
It’s amazing it seems like something new is always being found in Kotor 1 and 2
Bring back more KOTOR content!
For this straight to the point video, that doesn't have a lot of words without saying much, as so many other creators do, I salute you. And I also like and subscribe.
Ha! I remember having (still do) the same Prima strategy guide for Kotor II. I remember being super confused when I reached Atris' academy the second time around and there was no 'Darth Traya,' I thought my game was broken.
Same. I thought I had done something wrong.
Astros is Darth traya?
Whoa this is pretty neat! I did see info on cut content of atris dressed as Darth Traya but since I’ve only played with the restored content mod I only see Nihilus and the twin suns
The Restored Contend Mod is such a necessity for Kotor 2. If you have used this mod, please do! A team of 3 people restored all the missing things and then some to this game to return it to its original glory! If you are at all interested in the blood sweat and tears that those three put into this mod for us to enjoy, please check out the documentary here: ruclips.net/video/hoft-esLdnw/видео.html&ab_channel=Xuul
P.S. I am just a huge fan of this mod
Yeah I was kinda shocked when they added it to mobile they didn’t collaborate with the modders. I would pay triple the price of the actual game for the complete experience and would do the same for kotor 1 to maybe add a lot of kotor 2’s features. The fans want this and would gladly pay for it why don’t they want to make money?
@@michaelrandolph6373 Wait it comes with the KOTOR 2 app? No downloading required?
@@aii_penguin If im not mistake you have to download it. I just read something that the RCM creator made a download for the mobile game
@@sohailsayeed9361 they did I didn’t know that. I didn’t even know mobile games could have mods.
@@aii_penguin according to the other guy yes but I had no idea I’m about to look into this.
I love that new stuff is still being found out for this game decades later
0:47 who is that walking in the background? Looks like Kreia in her dark robes.
I made this mod. Those are the corrupt handmaiden sisters
@@steveskianimated6655 ah ok.
Glad to know it wasn't a hallucination with that guide for me it always upset me that it shows pictures of stuff that's impossible on a vanilla xbox copy like kreia with two hands.
Darth Atris looks like a disney villian
This makes so much sense. It never sit well with me how they hinted her decent into madness from all those sith holocrones but it never payed off.
Who's that walking around in the background at 0:47?
Five bucks says it's Visas Marr.
Omg this is my Recruit Atris mod in this video! :) I need to fix that mod up soon. I never found the time but I had so much fun making it
Doing Gods work
Not surprising. Some of the lines that made it into game for Kreia alluded to Atris becoming a Sith.
I have never played the game but your vids are always fun to watch -;))
WHAT?! Buddy, you are missing out. But if you’re watching the videos than I guess you know the story so not missing too much. But the journey of playing it was more the reward. I still go back to the games like every other year lol
omg are you kidding, we didn't get this. :(
a 2022 remaster of this game, with a more Fallen Order control style and updated graphics, plus all the deleted content restored would absolute make my life. this game nails atmosphere so well.
I wasn't too fond of Fallem Order's gameplay. Think I'd rather have something not so far removed from the original. There are ways to make it more engaging and refined.
@@ElectromagNick I agree. I don't think the Fallen Order style gameplay would work well with KOTOR as having that style of gameplay would stray way too far from the original gameplay style and it just wouldn't work at all. To be honest I would much prefer the KOTOR remake to have a similar style of gameplay like that of the original game but just make it a little less clunky than it originally was.
The rushing of Kotor 2 is as big of a travesty as the cancellation of BF3 and 1313.
Game publishers and their absurd mandates
What mods are you using for this? Because the graphics look better than I remember.
yeah would love to know the mods he is using, been looking to replay the game.
I see you took my advice from "*Rare* Dark Side Playthrough Menu Easter Egg in KOTOR 2" video. This now settles the Easter Egg in KOTOR 2 main menu for good.
Favorite star wars youtube, been watching for 5-6 years
Really appreciate it!
Darth Nihilus is no simp
Man the KOTOR II cantina music will always be my favorite
Loved kotor and kotor 2. Tried to replay kotor 2 on my phone recently then I remembered the paragus and couldnt take the torture
It's terrible. Probably the worst "first level" I ever played and it takes forever.
Also replayed it on mobile recently and it wasn't as bad as I remembered. Got half way through the game before my saves mysteriously disappeared :(
The voice lines at :37 in the video are actually in game voiced by Kreia if you play with the RCM.
Is the restored content download only for PC?
Who is the 8 foot tall Disney queen?
Kotor 2 on Xbox 360 from the Xbox store, ending, Kreia talks about Atris & the queen of betrayal & there always needing to been a Darth Traya. I was confused because I spared her but I guess that's one reference they didn't quite totally take out. Pretty cool
So nobody going to mention the extra person walking in the background at 48 seconds???
They were Atris' dark handmaidens
Just seeing this woke up that itch. I guess I will reinstall kotor 1&2 again. It has been 10 years since last playthrough...
There was a time in my life where I sat down and focused... this was the a last time for me.
That is a interesting cool easter egg
U kill Traya she's evil Trayas academy?
Malachor V
Is it just me or does this version of Darth Traya look a bit like The Evil Queen ( before the creepy transformation) from Disney's Snow White And The Seven Dwarves?
uhh is that kreya escaping in the background at 0:47 ? creepy af
Why restoration patch? I feel so betrayed!
Kreia:"the galaxy needs it's betrayers".
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I bought the guide and was unspeakably disappointed that tye arc was cut from the game. Unlike KOTOR which felt very contained and complete in itself, my complaint about KOTOR II was that it felt very truncated with hints of missions or options that never actually go anywhere. Another error that can be seen are hints of a two handed Kreia on Dxun in certain game related photographs. Further, only five characters had good designs: Kreia, Atris, Atton Rand, Vissas Marr, and Darth Nihilus.
I never knew this actually. I wish we saw that model somewhere else as a new villain. Could be a really cool character in something similar to the Coruscant mod
Am I the only one who gets Maleficent vibes from that version of Darth Traya in the beginning of the video lol
Oh no no. I get em too
They need to make a Knight's of the old Republic movie series. It is easily the best story in all of star wars. And it's a story long enough to make at least 3 movies and get a new trilogy going.
If they got a director and producer who ACTUALLY HAD TALENT and a true desire to make the movies in a way that stays loyal to the story and timeline of star wars. It would easily be the best star wars movies period.
I agree. I heard originally kotor 3 was supposed to be either you playing as revan or a different character trying to find and help revan in the unknown regions. Apparently there was a huge sith empire out there and Revan went there to find something maybe the sith emperor. Would’ve been awesome to finally see a new civilization as long as it’s pretty similar to the republic with many of the same species but let’s see some chiss walking around and maybe a different more sith architectural style.
Oh absofuckinglutely. Hands down the best Star Wars stories I have seen, including all the Star Wars games and other lore that I'm aware of.
Admiral Thrawn was a good character and so some of his stories would be cool, and apart from that I'd love to see some of the Old Republic and Sith Empire stuff too. But definitely the whole Revan/Surik/Kreia story, faithfully told, would be the best.
Is this all done "Keyboard Nation"...? No consoles?
No way i still discovering things about this Jurassic game
This was so confusing as a kid with the Prima guide.
not Kreia being a sneaky snake in the back at the 0:45 mark
Par for course 🤣
That font is pretty neat, which is it?
The text I used? I think its Oswald
@@DarkLOREDash As seen in the few seconds on the title menu. Oswald came up a blank. If you can't remember, no biggy, just thought it was a neat font.
Yes. Honestly I think I may have unlocked everything from sith lords
Ngl, I'm glad it wasnt Atris that was the final boss.
I'd actually have liked a dual ending
Very nice
Now if only we could get this Mod on Steam….
I knew that Kreia was Darth Traya, and I knew Atris was a fallen Jedi, that would be clear to any half-wit. But that Atris was another Darth Traya, that was unexpected, well, Meetra Surik still ended the both of them.
Well. Dancing with Twi'leks is fun. I get it.
Why she looks like a Disney villain is beyond me but not surprising either
okay where I can find this mod ?
Looks like Maleficent from sleeping beauty mixed with the Evil Queen from Snow White.
This voice belong to Carth Onasi?
I don't want to talk about it
@@DarkLOREDash 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 omgggg
Unpopular opinion darth sion is the coolest character in this game the cut scene where he choke slams the sh***t out of kreia is one of my favorite star wars scenes in any game
I'm actually glad that this idea was scrapped. Atris is much more obnoxious than Kreia, and wouldn't give the ending the same sense of uneasiness and ambiguity. Besides, the new outfit and "queen of betrayal" are really cringy - much more so than Kreia's black robe. And even this was a bit much, considering that Kreia doesn't consider herself a Sith and doesn't fit the whole "evil final boss vibe". It would be really hard to take it seriously, especially in such a nuanced game
Lol, she looks like the wicked queen from the original Disney Snow White cartoon
Cool stuff
Is it just me or does she look like Shinnok's sister
Traya would stomp the pc one most powerful sith ever
I wish there was Star Wars KOTOR 3.
Hold up when i played Kotor on first xbox she appeard asswell
Nihilus was a hound xD
I much prefer Kreia. I'm glad that Atris can't be a final boss. Honestly, Atris is symbolism. Pretty much everything wrong with the Jedi. Having her as the final boss would detract from this.
Good point.
KOTOR 2 was rushed before its release. If another year was devoted to the game's development.
Lol atrus was always kinda lame to me but this could have redeemed her a bit
Cool pfp
Isnt kreia traya....
The dark mother.
Goth Atris is best Atris.
You think you know everything about Easter and lore dash does this to me
Damn why Atris you have to be so dramatic.
There is no secret final boss
I've finished this game multiple times so I know what I'm talking about!
Its sad what they did to this game but even the fucked up version is a great game let alone the restored version is amazing
I hope that the kotor remake is real and is made so amazing it just blows away all these other games simply because kotor is itself a masterpiece if it was to be made with todays technologies
Ahhhh shit son we about to to be swimming in a amazong immersive game that nobody will be able to beat for GOTY edition
Wow...!
I learned nothing new here
I, in my infinite wisdom, didn't even bother to look into KOTOR 2 before playing it. Man was Malachor V disappointing
kotor
huh, was randomly unsubbed seemingly.
Kotor > kotor 2. The climate is just not the same.
This would have been SOOO much better. My biggest problem with KOTOR 2 was always the villains. Nihlus is dull and stupid. Kriea is obnoxious and not very compelling. Only Sion was solid and sadly rather than be the main baddie, he was a glorified henchman.
Atris pulling the strings all along or being the actual Sith Lord at the end would've been an awesome twist that would've been memorable and compelling.
Did you really just say Kreia was not very compelling...
First!
*Blue Shell*
Kreia is a woman, not a "they"
I dont understand
@@DarkLOREDash the beginning of the video sounds like Kreia is being called "they" instead of "she"
@@christianv7177 You need to get a life.