How complicated does your art really need to be?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @OoraMusic
    @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

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  • @benbork9835
    @benbork9835 Месяц назад +11

    I feel like much of my old music of which I forgot the process of to be more impressive than my current works. It’s almost as this mystery about how it was done makes it better

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +3

      happens to me all the time 😅

    • @DoomNedwob
      @DoomNedwob Месяц назад +1

      I have the same feeling. When I listen to things I created 20 years ago I wonder how on earth I came up with them 🤯

  • @swatrick_payze
    @swatrick_payze 27 дней назад +1

    Very cool to see you evolving as an artist. I was deeply influenced by your modular on the roof session. Everytime I see you in my feed it's like a reminder to get my hands back on my little setup. Also love the process more than the outcome. For me it's like meditation to think about - how can I achieve something new with the tools I already have. Keep it up and thank your for your video!

  • @samprock
    @samprock 24 дня назад +1

    You are right. I’m also driven by process, the endeavor, and notice or appreciate in work of others. Getting to your inner creativity and desire to make a product (which is still there, we are humans), letting it go and follow what naturally making YOU personally happier is just a skill to develop ❤
    What, are you saying you and I don’t need a new synth!?!? 😂🎉

  • @AntonvanBakel
    @AntonvanBakel Месяц назад

    During my lectures I always teach my students: Beauty = Function of Effect devided by amount of Means or B=F(E/M). Creative Beauty is very often derived from simplicity. Love this video, Thank you I will share it with my students. Stay Healthy, Dr. Anton P.M. van Bakel

  • @SebastianKauderer
    @SebastianKauderer 24 дня назад

    Amen Fede! Quoting Mingus: "Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple"

  • @lvinivl
    @lvinivl Месяц назад +6

    Against the background of creative stagnation, your music inspired me to start over. I, too, like you, have moved to electronic music from the rock direction and risk in performance is important to me. Your music has shown that it is possible to combine the feeling of an instrument and the unusual sound of synthesizers. And this video that you made supports me not only with energy, but also with words. Federico, thank you for this video and for your creativity.

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

      thanks for sharing your experience, it means a lot to me

  • @Silent_Stillness
    @Silent_Stillness Месяц назад +1

    I don't know if you've just experienced an awakening or if you've always been like this, but it's been 2 days in a row now that I seemingly randomly come across videos from you that I resonate with to the highest degree. In the past I was a bit judgmental because I didn't really "approve" of your arguably excessive emphasis on premium music hardware and the whole image/persona attached to it. Over these last 2 days though, with this video and the one you did on the imposter syndrome you have completely shattered the preexisting perception I had of you, and ever since you went full on "philosophical" and seem to have decided to really dive into "high level creative process meta" discussions I really feel like you've stepped into my world, and I can't possibly see how I could appreciate you any more than I do right now. You're discussing subjects I'm passionate about and that's EXACTLY what I want to see emerge and thrive in the community, but from what I've seen previously on YT it didn't seem like something many people were into (I'm also a music production content creator on YT). You've definitely earned a subscriber in me and you have my utmost respect. Thank you for the amazing content you've been releasing, and for engaging a conversation of this nature with the world and with this level of sincerity. Cheers!

  • @davidfarrell4953
    @davidfarrell4953 Месяц назад +4

    Love this!
    Your videos about creativity, process and thinking are my favorite ones you do actually.
    So appreciate you and the hard and thought provoking work you put out. Thanks so much!

  • @embazle
    @embazle Месяц назад

    I really needed to hear this. It’s given me a lot of self-realization and a deeper sense of self-worth. I feel like I can stop being so hard on myself and just accept who I naturally am, embracing my own way of approaching things and finding joy in that, rather than forcing myself to fit into some specific pattern or sequence. I realize now that it doesn’t matter if something is done “the right way” or if it’s natural or unnatural-critiquing myself like that isn’t who I am. Maybe it’s all part of the journey, but this talk has brought me peace wherever I am on that path. Thank you so much for this; I sincerely appreciate it.

  • @MaxStephens77
    @MaxStephens77 Месяц назад +1

    Appreciate these ruminations on art and creativity a whole lot. As someone who really is just not at all into the gear-obsessed, consumption based videos that fill up music RUclips, these videos about art practice are a breath of fresh air.

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

      its a direction that i like too :)

  • @user-or3ce4gt2r
    @user-or3ce4gt2r Месяц назад

    Extraordinary content again 🎉
    Making music for last 3 decades . Recently I moved into another place and I’m re wiring my studio again ( which I haven’t done it for 20 years ) and trying to build a new environment 🎉

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      I know the struggle!!

  • @shambien
    @shambien Месяц назад

    Artisan! I can relate so much to your point of view and process in ways and thru past experiences that would take me too many words to express 😉👌❤ Keep up the great work 💪

  • @Robert_Babicz
    @Robert_Babicz Месяц назад

    full support

  • @analog_
    @analog_ Месяц назад

    Great insight and summary of the magic of the artistic creative process! I too love the process and starting with sound design so you have something special to work this. Usually the track will write itself once you have inspirational sounds that you have created with your own hands by experimenting with different pieces of gear.

  • @stylinghead
    @stylinghead Месяц назад +1

    The complexity of removing personal restraint can be exhilarating. Following a single 303 line for an hour is as well. A journey is not a sculpture.

  • @monarchy_underground
    @monarchy_underground Месяц назад

    I found this one of the most beautiful videos you've done. Honing your craft and leveraging simple interactions takes so much pressure of you and then having the complexity arise from the subject's perception of the whole is the same way complexity works in every system, be it natural, social, mental, or artificial. This is what ties it all together. There, I feel, the distinction between complicated and complex makes sense - complicated is a human property created by rules and having to overthink, complex is an emergent state which involves randomness, hierarchy, nonlinearity, and collective dynamics. Bless

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  29 дней назад

      thanks for writing this 🙏🏻

  • @collectionofsensations
    @collectionofsensations Месяц назад

    Thank you for sharing your findings. I wish there were more videos with people sharing their insights from making music.
    Part of my journey is subtracting the gear.
    When I started out, limited by the amount of gear I really made more interesting things, trying to reach goals by complex patches.
    As soon as i had to many options, my music was getting more dense. I realised that all the things i thought i needed like a stereo filter or reverb was not that important. My mono filter was doing the jobb perfectly already.
    As a UX designer we talk a lot about needs, motivations, pain points and goals for products. It is hard to find your own needs, I guess it’s kind of what we do exploring what works for us. Like finding what’s missing for us to reach a goal, or what pain points holding us back. Like in my example, having too many options.
    Finding your own needs takes a lot of hard work using what you have. Since humans tend to choose the path of least resistance (me included), YT gear videos makes a tempting alternative to doing the hard work. Sure gear reviews are necessary to find something that matches our needs, they are not the problem in that sense. But i believe we need more of this kind of videos talking about all the other things.
    It’s so much easier getting excited for new gear than asking the hard questions, but the joy you get from doing the hard work lasts far longer than the pleasure we get out of gear videos.

  • @thegroove2000
    @thegroove2000 Месяц назад

    Also complexity is subjective. Down to ones own perception.
    What might look complext to one, may not be to another.
    This insight touches on several important aspects of how we understand and interact with the world:
    1. Personal experience: Our background, education, and life experiences shape how we perceive complexity. What seems complex to one person might be simple to another due to their different experiences.
    2. Cognitive abilities: People have varying cognitive strengths and weaknesses, which affect how they process and understand complex information.
    3. Familiarity: The more familiar we are with a subject, the less complex it tends to appear. Experts in a field often find their area of expertise less complex than novices do.
    4. Context: The context in which we encounter something can influence how complex it seems. A concept might appear simpler in one context and more complex in another.
    5. Emotional state: Our emotional state can affect our perception of complexity. When we're stressed or overwhelmed, things may seem more complex than when we're calm and focused.
    6. Cultural background: Different cultures may have different ways of thinking about and approaching complex issues, influencing individual perceptions.
    7. Learning styles: People have different preferred learning styles, which can affect how easily they grasp complex concepts.
    8. Motivation and interest: When we're interested in a subject, we're often more willing to engage with its complexities, potentially making it seem less daunting.
    This subjective nature of complexity has implications for fields like education, user experience design, and communication. It highlights the importance of considering diverse perspectives and adapting approaches to suit different individuals' needs and perceptions.
    Recognizing that complexity is subjective can also foster empathy and patience in our interactions with others, as we understand that what's simple for us might be complex for someone else, and vice versa.

  • @AntonShved
    @AntonShved Месяц назад

    Thank you for your strong and calming mindset. It is perfectly reflected in your music: pure, creative, floating vibrations reproduce your inner state through thousands of kilometers anywhere on our planet. Your inner freedom is a blessing to this world, Federico! Greetings from Ukraine!

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks Anton! Hope you are doing great!

  • @TheMidnightBandit
    @TheMidnightBandit Месяц назад

    deadmau5 is definitely an artisan. He's more concerned with the process and the challenges that come along with the craft. I think about it as an experimental process, but also as escapism. I immerse myself in new worlds within my music.

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      good point, the escapism. I can see I use it in that way too!

  • @ChainsawCoffee
    @ChainsawCoffee Месяц назад +2

    Ask a Flemish painter in the 1600s, "How complicated does your painting need to be?" The answer might be along the lines, "If I painted as a fool, I would be treated as a fool, and I would starve." If you asked Pablo Picasso the same question, he might answer, "If I paint a wild horse, you might not see the horse … but surely you will see the wildness!" Arvo Pärt might answer, "The silence must be longer. This music is about the silence. The sounds are there to surround the silence."

  • @andrij.demianczuk
    @andrij.demianczuk Месяц назад

    There is romance in the thought that maybe something only lives once. For the duration of the process and that’s it. Sometimes it is long, sometimes it is short but there is beauty in its presence even if it is fleeting. Enjoy it now, because in a moment it will be gone.

  • @renevanderkraats224
    @renevanderkraats224 Месяц назад

    That was a deep message. Made me pull up a Chesterfield, sigar, and a whiskey (I don't smoke actually) :-) I'm at the beginning of it all. Bought some hardware, first get a feel for using it. Creating sounds, sequencing, making simple tracks just to learn how it all comes together. Tame the hardware. Then see what suits me...having no musical background it'll probably be all exploration and 'happy accidents' building a track. In a later stage maybe save for some additional equipment if it's unable to get me where I want to go.

  • @oaklandghosts0510
    @oaklandghosts0510 Месяц назад +1

    Artisan. Process. Those feelings very much resonate with me.

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

      thanks for watching!!

    • @oaklandghosts0510
      @oaklandghosts0510 Месяц назад

      @@OoraMusicno thank you. You always have wonderful content! Cheers Oora!

  • @BonasBuden
    @BonasBuden Месяц назад

    I have had doubts about is my craft complicated enough. Luckily I have found styles which I really like and that does not rely on how complex track structure is. On contrary ambient and deep/hypnotic techno would not benefit from abrubt and fast successive changes at all. For me the workflow of doing such music has shaped my preferences. I listen whole lot of different type of music. E.g. jazz, progressive rock, heavy, etc. which are compositionally all over the place and I really like them. Then again it is pretty meditative process to compose minimal techno and ambient. At the surface it seems monotonic but once you start to pay attention to the sounds and how they are kept alive it is nothing but. Its all about perspective.
    As you said perceived complexity comes about honing your skills in particular way of doing things. I have spent countless hours listening minute changes in sound modulations and how different rhythmical sounds intertwine together. There are many times quite nuanced polymeters and polyrhythms happening yet they need to be introduced slowly to the stream of ofther sounds to give listener time to get familiar with it to not feel clunky. Still you need some anchoring rhythms and sound to give some sort of reference to grab on to. After all there are lots of complexities underneath the seemingly monotonic surface and I feel pretty relaxed and confident crafting such things because it is something I have used to do and really enjoy doing. For me it would be a struggle to compose some hectic dubstep tune although I respect greatly that someone can pull that of easily from the same reasons I can do my stuff.
    Coming back to my doubts it has been great to find validation from other artists doing similar sound. As an Italian and an artist of a bit similar sound you probably already know heavy hitters like Luigi Tozzi, Ness and Claudio PRC who have been defining artist in this specific genre of deep and hypnotic techno. There is Swedish record label Hypnus who keep The Memoir pages in the Soundcloud which is about autobiographical sets of different artists of that genre. I promise you find them pretty inspiring if you go through them.

  • @medenine4828
    @medenine4828 Месяц назад

    You are an excellent storyteller, Oora! I think that process and imagination can be dialectical, relational. Often I’ve been working on something, especially after practicing, while I’m away from the instruments, I’ll have melodies or textures running through my mind which I just need to then capture and work through, which then develops in relation to the evolving sonic material.

  • @jmawa8616
    @jmawa8616 Месяц назад

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts

  • @ChristopherOrth
    @ChristopherOrth Месяц назад

    Great talk, as always! "Complexity" is a slippy concept. You could have something that is very hard to do, and call it complex. Or you could try doing several simple things at the same time, and that all together becomes complex. The most complex user interface will usually be unnoticed, because it was so effortless to use, but a clunky over-engineered user interface will be hailed as amazing because of it's complexity, even though it's functionally unusable. And it's always sad to me when people blame themselves for the complexity (bad design) of something... like how people had a hard time using computers and would think "it's me" instead of thinking, "what a dumb device, it should be easier to use". After all, the point of a device, or a piece of artwork, isn't to show how you can handle complexity as an achievement. It's self expression!

  • @AVCOME
    @AVCOME Месяц назад

    Your recent videos are taking a new direction. For me and certainly for a lot of people it is the right way. At some point showing new gear, almost every day at least every week, only feeds the disease that we all suffer from. Gas. … and puts things into perspective. Thank you

  • @stavflow
    @stavflow Месяц назад

    Fantastic video! Really liked your description of those two types of people. I put myself often into the role of the first type through GAS, so thinking that I need the process whereas in reality I am pretty much the second type. I hear the music that I want to make in my head, just struggled to get it translated into music others can hear. While there is tons of nice and inspiring equipment out there, I can also prevent you from actually making music if that makes sense. So really for some people just learning the DAW and getting your ideas down as quick as possible is the way to go I believe. But as you pointed out, the grass is always greener on the other side :D

  • @deanpiacentini8668
    @deanpiacentini8668 Месяц назад

    Good thoughts, thank you. Im an artist(painter) and have always thought the thing to make is that which is unique to yourself. Focus on that and make it more.

  • @augustin6202
    @augustin6202 Месяц назад

    Really really liking your new series of video, you are turing into the Rick Rubin of synth, with the added italian accent soothing voice :D
    Thank you so much for your insights, it helped me a lot to put the finger on many things i have been struggling with for a while in my creative Journey.

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      well I hope to end up like him in California with a big house on the ocean :D

  • @henrymcintosh3
    @henrymcintosh3 Месяц назад

    This was excellent. This topic excites me as much as playing music does. Would be interested in a video where you share what you feel comes naturally to you, why you feel that way and how it fits in with what you actually pursue.

  • @LadislavBehounekable
    @LadislavBehounekable 28 дней назад

    This is good one Oora, thanks

  • @maksimus7711
    @maksimus7711 Месяц назад

    Love your videos. Thank you

  • @TontoRandom
    @TontoRandom Месяц назад

    Beautiful video. Thank you very much!!

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @SURCOlive
    @SURCOlive Месяц назад

    I love the idea of artisan as artist. Great as always.

  • @arkhivesmoth
    @arkhivesmoth 29 дней назад

    Thank you for this video, i resonate with your thoughts alot... I am process driven too...creativity is strange sphere with almost no rules...keep up the good work!! cheers

  • @DoomNedwob
    @DoomNedwob Месяц назад

    Wise words indeed on so many levels! Thank you. I am a process guy for sure. I sometimes wish I could just hear ideas in my head, but that's not the way I'm wired obviously. So I shall embrace the process of experimenting and not get hung up on imagination...which has been having the negative effect of making me think I've just run out of ideas! 🙄 Thank you again!

  • @92JelaniMusic
    @92JelaniMusic Месяц назад

    I really appreciate your perspective and it’s helped me realize what I’m able to let go of in my studio for an easier lifestyle

  • @protekpc6450
    @protekpc6450 Месяц назад

    Wise words. Is that Andrea that releases on Ilian Tape?

  • @jacobmarley6781
    @jacobmarley6781 Месяц назад

    Really good. Thank you.

  • @DaveS-Ace
    @DaveS-Ace Месяц назад

    Wow what a solid and inspirational video 🤘

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @underredskies
    @underredskies Месяц назад

    Spot on! This was a really good video 👍

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @jake6766
    @jake6766 Месяц назад

    love where you've been going recently!

  • @bobbylimesmusic
    @bobbylimesmusic Месяц назад

    Thank you for this. Your thoughts help me realize my own style. Hallo from the Artisan camp

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      ahah we are in this together!

  • @toffchunks
    @toffchunks Месяц назад

    Top as usual!!! thks!!!

  • @BeatnikHimself
    @BeatnikHimself Месяц назад

    Groovy talk. Thanks for sharing.

  • @nicoincertezza5763
    @nicoincertezza5763 Месяц назад

    awesome pep talk, thank you!

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @charliebenson392
    @charliebenson392 Месяц назад

    This is some real wisdom ❤

  • @rakoonsound9782
    @rakoonsound9782 13 дней назад

    Nice video ❤

  • @D3ROXX
    @D3ROXX 10 дней назад

    I follow you and I found this video interesting. I got and agree everything you said :D

  • @daveywaltz1830
    @daveywaltz1830 Месяц назад

    Spot on!

  • @JureJerebic
    @JureJerebic Месяц назад

    45 seconds in, all the point made, liked!

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      straight to the point :)

  • @PanicGirlVids
    @PanicGirlVids Месяц назад +1

    Haha love the thumbnail 😅🙌

  • @alessandrogolinelli3185
    @alessandrogolinelli3185 Месяц назад

    Ho trovato e sentito queste Parole di grande profondità e immersione e bellezza. 🙏❤️ Grazie

  • @tendingtropic7778
    @tendingtropic7778 Месяц назад

    well done mate

  • @RobertAdachi
    @RobertAdachi Месяц назад

    Vitamins and protein for the creative soul. I made notes of all the things you have said about the 5 tips.

  • @dmks2146
    @dmks2146 Месяц назад

    it's the simplest things in music that often hit me the hardest. distilling something meaningful out of the complexity in our heads is the challenge.

  • @WAROVART
    @WAROVART Месяц назад

    Needed this

  • @g3cd
    @g3cd Месяц назад

    Did you get a new camera and didn't set up the profile yet? The picture looks a bit grey and foggy 😉

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      no that is completely my choice :)

  • @zmickeylangelo
    @zmickeylangelo Месяц назад

    There’s no other truth than that, guys
    Well crafted wisdom essay ❤

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee Месяц назад

    I agree with all of this, except that anyone can be inspired by both process AND imagination... it doesn't have to be either/or. Even if, most of the time you're inspired by the way 2 sounds interact, or by an arpeggio being sidechained in just the right way, or whatever... maybe rarely, you can listen back to your recordings and realize you actually played a tune that came to you in a dream, only you thought you couldn't remember it when you woke up. And then, yesterday, somehow you played it. Or else, you might hear a song fully formed in your mind while you're awake, and then try to recreate a "cover version"🤣 IRL. I even got the lyrics with one song. I haven't published that one (I'm a lousy singer). IME, that's not an every-month, or even every-year, occurence, so I stick with my usual inspiration, but all the while, I'm open to the possibility of lightning in a bottle.
    Surprising yourself is easy. Just clear your mind, and make music without any plan - try to listen, as you go, from an audience perspective. When things work out, that's the most fun. Personally, I'm not exactly can't-miss at that. So, in order to do it, I needed headphones and patience to allow a lot of garbage to come out for the amount of music that genuinely surprises me in a good way. It's easier to put myself in a compassionate audience listening position, while I'm attempting that, knowing that I'm not paying for a ticket.

  • @Anto.Pragma29
    @Anto.Pragma29 Месяц назад

    Wow!!

  • @caleblaughlin8351
    @caleblaughlin8351 Месяц назад

    Nice. 🙏

  • @Nadrisk
    @Nadrisk Месяц назад

    with each year i find myself making music thats less complex than the year before lol

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      maybe bot for the others!

  • @camphabenero
    @camphabenero Месяц назад

    My superpower is painting and drawing, but I am intent on learning how to make the crazy beats!

  • @laughingthrushmusic5269
    @laughingthrushmusic5269 27 дней назад

    What camera do you use?

  • @SteveYeagerMusic
    @SteveYeagerMusic Месяц назад

    I put these transmissions at Rick Rubin level authenticity at the mind level, but your added musicality and ability there just stands above x

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      thanks 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @stujay
    @stujay Месяц назад

    Wisdom!

  • @Sentientfx1
    @Sentientfx1 24 дня назад

    Hear hear!

  • @MarkusGeheim
    @MarkusGeheim Месяц назад +1

    I want maximum complexity. Scientists should take decades to understand my patches and routings 😄just kidding! Great video again 😎

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for watching! 🤣

  • @dougel
    @dougel 25 дней назад

  • @subaphonic
    @subaphonic Месяц назад

    Is your friend Andrea the founder of Ilian Tape ? If so, I feel a bit stupid, after seeing him on a show I asked him tons of questions about the gear he uses lol

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      no another one :)

    • @subaphonic
      @subaphonic Месяц назад

      @@OoraMusic fewww hahaha

  • @LeeWaltonUK
    @LeeWaltonUK Месяц назад

    You're a philosopher, not just a musician. 🙂

  • @darrenblondin
    @darrenblondin Месяц назад

    In finding a way to release yourself from the physical process you may be walking into a labyrinth by dissecting the mechanics of thought itself.

    • @OoraMusic
      @OoraMusic  Месяц назад

      very thoughtful point!

  • @kablehead
    @kablehead Месяц назад

    Seems like you still overthink the whole process of making art. But i get it, i do the same. :)
    Good points in there, not always easy to follow them while making music though. Art is an ongoing beautiful struggle.

  • @rumo201
    @rumo201 Месяц назад

    Good point. Hobby-Musicans needs only a DAW , some VST‘s and a controller like Push. Pro‘s needs more I think