I have to make a little disclaimer because some of little precious souls got their feelings hurt, because some other paste won that you are not using. Well grow up. 1. All of the pastes were sent to me, I do not deny that, doesn't change anything, I am not biased nor I will ever be. 2. Personally I used Arctic all the time, regardless of something being sent or not, did it won? No. 3. No one knew what the results would be until the release of the video, I myself was surprised about some results 4. Everything you seen on my channel was sent to me, again, am I biased? I don't think so. Do I praise everything, no, I am looking to make a review that will go through all the good and bad things of each product. And that will never change! 5. Again grow up, you do not have to agree with me, nor I with you, I do not say bad things to you, move along if you do not like. Once again, thanks to everyone for the support and understanding, these tests are purely fun and for science purposes and some of the pastes used here might work better on your hardware, not every HW combo is the same, nor does everything behaves exactly the same in given conditions. Vlad
Seems a little fishy that the best performing thermal paste uses screenshots from your video in their marketing on Amazon and I can’t find any other tests from tech channels.
I can definitely see where people are coming from. After looking into prices of larger than 1g tubes something smells off about the Gelid GC-4. It's half the price and the best gpu performer by a large margin in this video. I can't say its fake, but I can say that it feels off. Also you can test using AM5 platform cpus despite the way the thermals are by testing max boost and performance figures instead of raw temp.
I've been looking for this one, you even timed it perfectly at the start of summer where most of us either buy or upgrade or clean our devices. Nice work!
I've been using GC-4 for a long time after discovering that it works better than most and if you take price into account you might as well call it the best.
Ye I used MX-6 first time I changed my GPU paste and it was more of a clay consistency rather than paste and so my GPU hot spot was above 100C. Yesterday I changed it and used GC-4 and temps dropped 10-13C. Definitely the best
One benefit of GC extreme is that it works really well for direct die applications. MX-4 is my go to for desktop processors but it really sucks for direct dies like on laptops and GPUs hardly last a month before the heat just pumps it all out. If you need something to do it all GC extreme is a good choice so is Thermal Take TFX (bit better than GC but it cost more) .
I use a 3070 vertically with a riser and MX-4 generously applied will just run down like ice-cream on a hot summer day. I ordered MX-6 because it's more viscous and hopefully will not run and maybe last much longer. Didn't know about the Gelid GC-4, wish I had gotten that one to try instead, my 3070 is thermal throttling averaging 83c with hotspot well over 100c, could really use a cool down. I am a noobie so not sure yet how to undervolt this thang. Oh well...
Great review! There doesn't seem to be a lot of thermal paste comparisons on RUclips, so this really helped me. I'll probably go for either the GC-4 or MX-6 for my AMD CPU.
Noctua NT-H2 is really good. I always tought that paste is not important,used cheapest paste and gaming peformance was really bad,cpu was thermal throttling . My i7 10700k was 83-90c under heavy load always. After trying Noctua, i was really impressed because it took temps down to 61C under heavy load and cpu was not thermal throttling anymore so better fps also.
@@joshgts9675 Nah it was stock paste ,it did not overheat just ran hot for 2 years.Paste compounds make huge difference how fast it can transfer heat. I'm not beginner been building PC's since 2010.
Excellent video, although I would have liked to see the core frequency numbers as this may influence the temperature. What if a temperature was lower because the CPU was drawing less power due to lower clocks?
Personally, I think that the most important thing is which CPU and GPU it is used for. If it is not something high end, there is no need to buy expensive paste. Each paste has its own purpose
I have an RTX-4090 and I applied GC-4 a few months ago, at the beginning the results were impressive, the hot spot dropped from 92C to 82C in stress test but after a few months the hot spot is back to 92C so I don't know if this is a good solution for the GPUs. Maybe the problem is that the paste just squeezed out and decomposed because of the high pressure, I will try some thermal sheets like KryoSheet and will see the difference in long therm.
This is the problem with some pastes on the GPU, I have found this issue as well, 6-8 months and they pump out. I have to make the updated video soon 😀
@@LevelUPGamingTech Alright, so one of my friends gave me one piece of thermal pad Honeywell ptm7950 and here are my first results in FurMark after installing it on my RTX 4090: Default fan and not overclocked: GPU temp 69C, hot spot 81C, memory 60C; Overclocked 110% 500w, core +125, Mem +1500, custom fan, GPU temp 67C, hot spot 79C-80C, memory 60C. I was told after a few days the temps should drop more because the pad should accommodate. Room temp +25C, I will make an update maybe in 2-3 months with new results.
@@ลีโอ-ป9ศ I got applied Honeywell PTM7950 Phase-change Pad a few weeks ago and the temperature is impressive, I have now 72-74C on hot spot in stress test
Vlad you should try phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer, performs works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-out effect. On the power section (vrm) and vrams I advice to give thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro. Does an amazing job, temperatures can drop by as 5-10°C on the vrams.
Seems a little suspect that the Gelid GC-4 uses screenshots from your video in their Amazon marketing. Products have done this with other people too but what makes it weird is that suddenly after decades of similar performing thermal pastes theirs actually has a significant different somehow. And despite this significant difference there’s basically no other reviews of it on RUclips. Seems dicey.
All in all ... even some "overclockers" thermal compunds (yeah, thermal grizzly)... are in basic similar and results are pretty much, marginally, similar/same as "normal" ones. I tested few noctua TC's in past, results were worse than arctic, until i settled for MX-2, MX-4 ... and dont yell on me for MX-2 ... it's one of the top long-term GPU TC. Why ? Viscosity is mother of TC's for GPU. Keep up Vlad, i really liked this video.
This still stands like this on my desk 🤣 I finished these tests 2 days ago and have 0 energy left do dismantle it now 😆 But the info that I got is valuable 🙌
For my Asus rog strix RX 580 8gb use mx-6 with Extreme OC + UV only 60° in this Summer. The GPU stock run 53°. I think Is a good thermal paste. Good video.
Thanks buddy 👍 Regarding the temps this summer, it's a hot one for sure, my RTX 4090 went from cozy 53 at all times to 61+ just because 😂 Can't wait for the summer to be over so I can use my computer for free hetaing again 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was hoping that GC-4 would provide some kind of miracle. I should have known better. I applied MX-4 to my CPU about 10 months ago and just ran a comparison test with CB25 for 5 mins. and Y-cruncher 2.5B. I applied some GC-4 and unfortunately the results for maximum and average were with a degree of each other. I would call this margin of error. Still a good paste though.
It depends also on the CPU/GPU some of them will give you same results, but on some more hotter CPUs for example, you will start noticing differences... See in my example, MX-6 is totally funky on the GPU while the same on on the CPU is within margin with others...
@@LevelUPGamingTech I think that the GC-4 needed to "cure" for about 24 hours and it reached a bit better performance. I did beat out my MX-4 by a few degrees in the end so good suggestion to use that paste.
@@MikeS3000 If I obeyed the 24h rule while doing all the tests it would take me a month 😁 But yeah some pastes are better after 24 or 48h, some maybe even more. Sometimes spreading helps too, or even the "perfect" amount. It all varies a lot... For example, I took off same cooler 3-4 times from 7950X the other day I did Lian Li Galahad II AIO tests, each time I got different results, in the end I said fk it and just put paste in the middle of the CPU and call it a day, like I slapped paste and slapped cooler on top, it turned out the best 😂😂😂😂
@@LevelUPGamingTech I hear ya! Great video by the way. I really enjoyed the comparisons. I've been building PCs for about 20 years and this kind of testing is still fun!
Grouse video Vlad, I really enjoyed it. 👍 I have never heard of GC-4, I might have to check them out one day. But I have enough MX-4 (my go to paste as well) & some NH-1 left for that special build. 🤘
When Gelid win, haters come. Always the same. Thanks for the video. GC4 is on my shopping list already. Looks like they are back on top (GC extreme worked really good and it was a chart topper for me, but few years ago, somethink happend and the quality was getting lower with each batch).
Did you check the clock speeds on the 3090 with these pastes? If it’s downclocking it’s no wonder it’s running cooler. It should be consistent but you won’t know unless you check the core frequency graphs.
Changed thermal paste from Noctua to Gelid GC4 on 12900K - difference is in 5-7 degrees in favor of Gelid. Great thermal paste, works as intended. Also, I seriously do not understand people that are using stupid amount of voltage for their CPUs and then come here to bitch and moan about thermal paste. Like suuuure, thermal paste is the main issue for you. Strange people.
Maybe to early to ask but how is the "pump out" on Gelid GC4? i did order lots of thermal pastes incl: Gelid GC extreme, Gelid GC-4, Arctic MX-4, Kryosheet latest graphene pad, PTM7950 thermal pad and Upsiren UX pro putty.
@@lawshadow2011hi, anything you have learned so far? I used gelid gc 4 but my Temps are the same, I think it's slightly worse maybe because the technician put the paste on top of my old paste in my laptop
I had rather high HOTSPOT temps on my RTX 4090 ie gpu core to hotspot = whopping 23c !! with my rtx 4090 waterblock from EKWB. So i remounted it asked EKWB for the PROPER tension in "NM" they said 0.6nm in the end i ordered a certified NM screwdriver (01.nm - 1.2nm) and applied 0.4nm on all screws with STOCK EKWB thermal pads and changed the paste from Arctic MX-6 to Gelid Extreme GC (not the nr 4 Gelid) dropped gpu core to hotspot = 6c !!! Thats a huge drop in HOTSPOT temps. This was a couple months ago however now im getting around 10c - 11c gpu core to hotspot delta this could mean the paste i am using is starting the "pump out" effect i sure hope not. If it stays at around MAX 13c core to hotspot delta im fine but if it is further going downhill then i am FED UP and will use Gryzzly Cryosheet or PTM7950 these two thermal solutions do NOT suffer from ANY pump out even at LONG duration ie years and years. The issue is "PUMP OUT" on certain pastes look it up what it means basically it means compressing certain paste between 2 blocks of metal and try to squeeze out the paste.....thats basically "pump out" which can leave certain spots on your cpu or gpu d1e with less coverage with paste thus increasing temps not only mounting pressure but also temps variations can lead to pump out. Arctic MX-4 is regarded as one of the best paste when it comes down to consistency and viscosity it doesnt suffer to much from "pump out" and is regarded as one of the longest for durability sure its not the super uber best performance (minus 2c from the rest). Have a look at PTM7950 and Cryosheet (warning cryosheet = electrical conductive so use precautions ie use KAPTON TAPE to cover the cpu or gpu SMD's)@@renegadesg018
Definitely appreciate video. It would be great to see your AMD results because while I understand your reasoning, couldn't it be helpful to compare the pastes based on how high of clock speeds they can reach on a given setup? That's why I'm curious to see those results as well. It's extremely surprising how incredibly little reviews or testing there is of GC-4 paste, there's next to zero besides yourself. I think I'll buy some, do you know how long it's supposed to hold up before reapplying?
While you have the point for clocks those AMD test would be like 95-95-95-95-95 (or whichever TJ limit you set in BIOS) 🤣 clocks would be most of the time maxed out, it's only a matter of time for how long, and trust me it would have eaten my time. This is the main reason why I did not include them 👍 Regarding reapplying well idk for how long, I do change mine every 6-7 months anyway, I think longest I left a paste is 1 year 😉
the application of thermal paste is also very imp, and you have to either use spatula to cover all the ends or put enough paste in a proper manner on the die before putting on the cooler.....
Unfortunately, these results mostly fall within a margin of error I would say. Which is consistent with other videos I've seen testing pastes. Very hard to actually draw conclusions here.
There is the issue that pastest will not perform same on same CPU and AIO and such. For example, MX-4 is by far the worst for GPU for me, pump out real quick, literally after a week. GC Extreme is ok for like 3-4 months on the GPU and then dries and pumps as well. On the CPU, MX-4 is actually best allrounder, but GC-4 is better in the long run, I had it for a year almost then it started to lose properties. Also there is a new batch of MX-6 that is quite good on both GPUs and CPUs... Gotta make a new video with those pastes and Phase Change pads
I've been using MX-6 this past year and it's been working perfect. I use I on my i7-7700k and it stay under 55Celcius even when playing GTA5. I just use a DeepCool air cooler. Edit: It is delid and use liquid metal on CPU die.
I use mx-4, mx-6 now or some cheap deepcool z10 whenever i test my cpu, gpu or when I plan to remove it again from the heatsink and it works fine for both - no pumpout but both mx-6 and mx-4 pumps out from my gpu so I am now using ptm 7950 when it is direct die and laptops
@fahimalmahi1514 yes since ptm 7950 works best on direct die and is resistant to pumpout effect unlike thermal pastes. it also lasts longer which is reported to have a life of 10 years. Lenovo legion uses ptm 7950 on their newer gen laptops too.
@@krj2209 for desktop pc gpu is it beneficial? Also do you apply it on the gpu itself or just the memory I am bit confused on that part because all I see about thermal pads they use only on the memory I want to apply on the gpu core itself So can I use it on there?
@@fahimalmahi1514 I apply ptm 7950 which is a thermal "phase change" that looks like a .25mm thermal pad on a gpu's die and I use Thermal pad hy234 (the first one I used) or Upsiren U6 pro (not to be confused with the computer systems brand they are shit, chinese seller are the og) for vram and vrm.
@@fahimalmahi1514 My comment didnt go through the time you commented so PTM 7950 phasechange is to be placed on to cpu direct die and gpu direct die carefully and prepared by putting it in freezer for 10mins as application is hard. and Upsiren U6 pro (not the gr system or something the china ones are the better and original) on vram, it's like a play-doh that is place on vrm and vram and you will place it where the old thermal pads goes.
NTH1 and NTH2 pastes from Noctua are literally always either #1 or in the TOP 3 on every single comparison on RUclips, but people still recommend the Arctic MX6 over it... Even though both NTH1 and NTH2 are better AND show better(cooler) results... That's like watching a Porsche beat a Fiat in a 2 lap race and then when asked what do you recommend, you say Fiat. I don't get it, am I missing something here, or? Is it because of the price? Because Arctic is cheaper? I was about to get the MX6 but now I'm seriously considering getting NTH1...
For those who wanna buy gc-4. DONT. Tried and tested myself. Max temp playing valorant 82c. Using AK620 cooler. 5800x Arctic mx4 is much better. If you don’t believe me, u can test it your self.
What makes you say that? GC-Extreme is well known for direct die it is well recommended for laptop's, makes sense their new GC-4 performs the same if not better, I don't know I still didn't see many reviews on the GC-4, but why make such a comment like your opinion is the bottom line on a nicely made benchmark?! Did you apply it on direct die? what was your test? how can we take your word for it?
I don't know if it's possible but wouldn't it be easier for the processor and cpu cooler factories to try to smooth the metal as best as possible so that there are no imperfections?
Such things usually used for very specific purpose. Most of the time when it's same manufacturer of both: silicon and heatsink plate. And only for pairs: this specific silicon and this specific heatsink plate. With NVIDIA scale and AIB veriety it's just impossible. NVIDIA might try to do it for FE, but even 100K units will be disaster. Extreme overcclockers do so. It's difficult and price of an error is very high.
The prolimatech pk-3 nano would've been a good thing to test, it lasts way longer than kryonaut and better. One thing you should mention is the longevity and pump out resistance of the pastes.
Applied it on my laptop, so far its good but still waiting for that month like yours. Hopefully all goes well for me but so far temps are pretty sick for gaming, it didn't reach above 80c and hovering around 66-69c most of the time
What do you recommend for gaming laptop that have higher temps? Which one do you think is best so it does not dry out after few months? Would like the best performing one and one we dont need to replace all the time. I think Gelid Extreme would be best. But please confirm.
@@heydaddy6817hey hey! Gelid gc-4 is not for bare die chips and board, if you use it on laptop, you will face pump out effect within a few days of application if you play heavy games or use intense software, so my recommendation would be to use GC extreme as imo, it's still the best and undisputed thermal paste for the laptop.
@@nerijus01 i know ptm i dont want ptm thats why i am asking paste, the reason i dont want ptm is in india i cannot get stuffs from aliexpress so i will need to go for work around, so i was asking for paste. will gc extreme be too thick for laptop
Hi Very informative and nice workaround video thank you for doing these kinda videos for us. I have bought a new Deepcool AK 400 for my RYZEN 7 3700x which is OC at 4.2ghz i haven't changed thermal paste since 2020 which i have used in 2020 corsair TM30 and i'm using Wraith prism cooler So for direct touch heat pipe coolers like AK 400 will GELID GC 4 be good enough as in you video it is out performing every paste that listed there. Thank you and need some valuable suggestion
@@LevelUPGamingTech okay i have ordered Gelid GC 4 bro. Thanks a lot and we hope we get to see more pc related stuff and i hope this channel grows stronger.
Very informative thanks. You should test Fuze-Ice by Iceberg Thermal, their thermal conductivity was listed as 13 w/mk for FuzeIce Plus and 11.25 w/mk for standard FuzeIce, not bad if accurate.
I just got the Gelid gc-4, what application do you recommend for an R5 5600X?, pea, rice or spread? Also, is there much difference between using 70% and 90% isopropyl alcohol to clean old CPU and cooler thermal paste? Thanks
Cleaning is best done with medical benzene it takes everything off and leaves no residues. You can wipe one more time with 70 or 96% alcohol. For that CPU maybe a 5 dots method works the best 👌
Yeah, at the point of 6 months they are almost completely dried out, I noticed this also, firstly they need time to cure properly, they need like 3-4 days to fully settle, this will give maybe 1 degree better temps then initially tested, but will dry out eventually
Lol using my same H1 application w/ my NH-D15s for over 7 years straight now lmfao...still rocking a 7700k and EVGA SC+ 1080ti and I'm not going to upgrade until 6090 or 7090 .
I have a SONY VAIO VPCF 136FM laptop. It gets SO HOT that the PC shut off on its own WHEN I watch videos on RUclips ONLY. Does the quality of Thermal Paste involve in this problem? If yes, Would you recommend the right one which has the ultimate possible heat conductivity? For now, I used Arctic thermal paste Silver 5 on both CPU and GPU.
Thermal conductivity means nothing a long time ago, just read the quote on Arctic's website for example. I have seen pastes with high numbers and yet they perform really poorly.
How's the GC-4 doing so far on the GPU? It's easier to spread than GC extreme so I'm worried about pump-out. I've read plenty of complaints about Arctic for pump-out on GPU application.
What you mean pump-out? As in it will slide over the chip, or? Still is on my 3090 going strong, we shall see for how long 😉 And yes it is easier to spread than GCE
@@LevelUPGamingTech I'm not sure about the correct term but I'm referring to performance degradation over time with the paste drying out. I'm want to repaste my GPU but I'm reading horror stories about Arctic & Noctua being good at first, then needing to be re-applied after a couple of weeks.
@@ailluinthethyra6139 For Arctic MX-4 yes it is true, I can confirm, month top two and re-paste, Noctua maybe more can't properly confirm for Noctua as I changed it fast. So far GCE is still going strong on some of my GPUs, GC4 is still rocking solid on 3090, we shall see over time I guess
Honestly idk, I still have one in my main PC, it's in there maybe a month after this video, still going strong, didn't notice any decrease in performance
I installed thermal grizzly on my gaming laptop and I’m getting 95-100 on my test runs. Not good. Need to get something better. Im assuming thicker paste is better for laptops. Help pls.
did you manually spread it? I wouldn't do a blob or X on a laptop since you're doing direct-to-die instead of on a heat spreader. but yes, thicker is better especially for longevity, due to the "heat pump" effect; this is where as the chip heats and cools, it expands and contracts up and down like a pump, which over many heat cycles will cause the paste to be pushed out, and is much more apparant on direct-to-die applications (watercooling can help reduce this, but that's a discussion for desktops with GPU waterblocks)
@@geraldsaved no problem and good luck! don't forget you want to gradually screw in opposite corners to make sure you're applying as even pressure as possible, else the paste may squeeze out too, so do say top left a half turn, bottom right a half turn, bottom left a half turn, top right a half turn, and repeat. as a side note, did you replace the thermal pads too or keep the original ones? I ask because if you replaced them too, it could be they're too thick/stiff so the heatsink isn't making proper contact with the die anymore
@@glebglub yup new pads! Okay for sure I’ll follow the opposite screw pattern to make sure it evenly spread. What thermal paste would your recommend for a thicker consistency?
Is the Gelid GC-4 good for laptops? I've heard that runny thermal pastes like the MX-4 are prone to pump-out in applications like GPUs and laptops. The GC-4 seems to be easier to spread compared to the GC-Extreme but is it still thick enough to withstand pump-out?
MX6 is a very thick thermal paste, when I tried on my GPU it made nearly no difference and was a pain to apply with it being more like clay than paste lol.
On purpose as it is completely up to the manufacturer to say this, and they do not give this information, some of them. I will quote Arctic on this: "ARCTIC made a conscious decision not to specify any values for the thermal conductivity of its thermal paste and thermal pads because many manufacturers invent, artificially inflate or embellish this value. Thermal paste has a thermal conductivity of 1 to 4 W/mK. Values outside of this range, such as 12.5 W/mK, are at odds with the truth. Many competitors quote values above 4 W/mK to suggest better performance. It often leads to false expectations and dissatisfied users. ARCTIC offers its customers innovative thermal interface materials at the best possible price-performance ratio instead of relying on manipulated performance data."
@@BeatstormX Yup that is why I did not say anything, forgot to mention that in the video... And it is true, I had some thermal pads that said 15W used them on the GPU, my mem tjunction was going crazy. Used some other ones that are rated as 8W, generally lower than those 15W, day and night difference 😁
@@k0rz4khow long does it take to pass the healing time ? I've been using it for a while. It does feel like it's degraded but it's been a whole year lol
TG Kryonaut is not at all suitable for gaming laptops in which the temperature practically non-stop oscillates at 80°C. After 6-8 months there is a pump out effect or simply the paste dries out. The best solution is a phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950, Upsiren PCM-1 or Gelid HeatPhase Ultra in which the above-mentioned problem does not occur.
Depends if they have pads or not, usually GPU and CPU are with thermal paste on a copper heatpipe, while memory can have thermal pads. Basically it is easy, you just need the correct thickness for the pads, most common are 0.5, 1, 1.5 and 2mm, somewhere even 3.0mm are used. In rare cases there are very strange dimensions like 0.75 or 1.25... Doesn't hurt to get them all, you might need them someday, somewhere...
@@LevelUPGamingTech the laptop has the original pads it came with. I guess my goal would be to lower overall thermals. I repasted already. I was hoping that replacement of the pads with a higher end pad would help.
@@geraldsaved It would but do not expect some miracles, Thermalright has good pads, would be better than stock that is for sure, just as I said get the correct thickness...
Try out the phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer, performs in my experience works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-put effect. On the power section (vrm) and vrams I advice to give thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro.
I wouldn't even add it to the list. It shows good results, but degrades quickly (gets dry in about a year, and in the last few months temperatures start rising).
I am cancelling my mx6 order which is costing me 11 dollars for 4gram and ordering Gelid GC4 because it is available amazon india for 3.8 dollar for 1 gram.I cant spare more money to a thermal paste if your review is true then i will update here on my comment.
You can apply both to the CPU and GPU, but I would more recommend applying phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950, Upsiren PCM-1 or Gelid HeatPhase Ultra.
Im using MX 4 but im tented to buy MX 6 because right now are in same price, i jusr changed the thermal paste on a Thinkpad t480s and jesus christ the i7 8650U hits thermal throttling condtantly and is worsen by the bad fan curve, the damn laptop shuts off the fan at 50c but if you had a sudden junp hits thernal throttling and you got 10-15 minute of down clocks because the fan didnt catch up with the heat.
I’m waiting for my mx-6 to deliver and paste it on my t480 hello fellow thinkpad user :). mine start up at 70C and throttle at 90 or sth during heavy load I wonder how much will it drops after applying it. Did you use the new paste yet? Tell me how it feels
@@Bentodev42 I try it mx 4, idle is between 40-48, 48 right before closing everything and in desktop, in 1-2 minutes it idles up to 40c, room temperature is 33c-36c (lol, and we reach 40c yesterday), it throttles at 90c usually because there's some moments it hits 99, now with chrome usually is in the 55-65 before it was 67-77, if I put a RUclips video before repasting throttled some times now is rare case it throttles but I think it's not chrome it's another process because sometimes in idle jumps in temps, the thing here is that the cooling is not capable to to dissipate quickly, I tested modifying the rpm of the fan to run it at 5xxx rpm and the temperatures rise slowly but hits thermal, I guess the only way is Mx-6 and undervolting :(. The mx 6 seems better on thermal conductivity in high temps so it could help to move quickly. I'm happy with mx 4 but I want to try mx 6 nonetheless.
@@Bentodev42 Hi dude, I'm in a place that I can control the room temperature and I'm having with edge with some pdf, email, Exel note pad and I'm having in cpu package 38-41°C, 25°c room temperature (office), I'm gonna test it Aida and other things to tell you if it throttles
@@Bentodev42 Hi, sorry to bother you again, i tried other thing previous to do the undervolt, i peeled off the mesh that is on the base, the part of the fan and today 50% that is down the cpu, i know that im going to need to do some clenaning more often but the mesh seems really restricting, the part of the fan it helped to disipate faster when hits thermal throttling, the CPU one i can't believe that it helped 1-2 °c and if i put a fan base is another 1-2 less, in a room at 32 °c its 45 cpu package and 38 in core temps via HWiNFO, the powe mode is max perf, if i put better battery goes 43 °c (sometimes 40) and the fan shuts off, tomorrow at the office if i have time i will take some numbers (usuallly room temp is at 20 °C), in the office people uses E14 models and the changed to MX 6 recently, they seem a little better, i think thinkpads has not the best cooling system :(.
@@jfsps15 well for my t480 given that we only have like one cooling copper pipe I figured that going core i7 is gonna run unnecessary hot and another discovery i made is. When booting up windows my fan runs hot like 67C and this does not happen when I use void linux. I still got 2 month warranty from my reseller so imma wait and use the mx6 later . regarding the mesh though it is restricting i think it did a nice job keeping the dust out from the interior
Here my testing with gc4 vs mx6 Gc 4 better in my 3090 385 watt for both gc4 got 71c while mx6 got 75 btw i use de shroud 3090 so better fan and both lock in 100% fan
I saw a test on reddit and I noticed that the wattage values dropped, fps values etc. dropped, so I'm wondering and asking if you have the opportunity to answer.
I have to make a little disclaimer because some of little precious souls got their feelings hurt, because some other paste won that you are not using. Well grow up.
1. All of the pastes were sent to me, I do not deny that, doesn't change anything, I am not biased nor I will ever be.
2. Personally I used Arctic all the time, regardless of something being sent or not, did it won? No.
3. No one knew what the results would be until the release of the video, I myself was surprised about some results
4. Everything you seen on my channel was sent to me, again, am I biased? I don't think so. Do I praise everything, no, I am looking to make a review that will go through all the good and bad things of each product. And that will never change!
5. Again grow up, you do not have to agree with me, nor I with you, I do not say bad things to you, move along if you do not like.
Once again, thanks to everyone for the support and understanding, these tests are purely fun and for science purposes and some of the pastes used here might work better on your hardware, not every HW combo is the same, nor does everything behaves exactly the same in given conditions.
Vlad
well, you wont get subscribers with FAKE temp tests and benchmarks. good luck
@@jamesfreeman1530 good bye 🤡
Seems a little fishy that the best performing thermal paste uses screenshots from your video in their marketing on Amazon and I can’t find any other tests from tech channels.
I can definitely see where people are coming from. After looking into prices of larger than 1g tubes something smells off about the Gelid GC-4. It's half the price and the best gpu performer by a large margin in this video. I can't say its fake, but I can say that it feels off.
Also you can test using AM5 platform cpus despite the way the thermals are by testing max boost and performance figures instead of raw temp.
My results on 14900k using GPUZ bench:
MX5 - 91C
T30 - 93C
MX6 - 86C
after 80 seconds of running.
This is the video I've been looking for. I needed advice on my GPU thermal paste options and I've made up my mind GC 4 is my choice
I've been looking for this one, you even timed it perfectly at the start of summer where most of us either buy or upgrade or clean our devices. Nice work!
I never thought about it like that, but yeah you are right 😃 Glad you liked it! 😊
MX-4: 92-88-55-85
MX-5: 90-86-53-81
MX-6: 89-85-52-81
NT-H1: 91-87-55-84
NT-H2: 90-87-55-83
GC-Ex: 91-86-53-84
GC-4: 88-79-50-79
GOAT
So gc-4 is number 1
Watching this video was painful, thank you.
I've been using GC-4 for a long time after discovering that it works better than most and if you take price into account you might as well call it the best.
Ye I used MX-6 first time I changed my GPU paste and it was more of a clay consistency rather than paste and so my GPU hot spot was above 100C. Yesterday I changed it and used GC-4 and temps dropped 10-13C. Definitely the best
One benefit of GC extreme is that it works really well for direct die applications. MX-4 is my go to for desktop processors but it really sucks for direct dies like on laptops and GPUs hardly last a month before the heat just pumps it all out. If you need something to do it all GC extreme is a good choice so is Thermal Take TFX (bit better than GC but it cost more) .
Thanks for the info about TFX 👍
Right,Gelid Solutions GC-Extreme is great for gaming laptops.
My gaming laptop runs massively cooler and quieter now.
I use a 3070 vertically with a riser and MX-4 generously applied will just run down like ice-cream on a hot summer day. I ordered MX-6 because it's more viscous and hopefully will not run and maybe last much longer. Didn't know about the Gelid GC-4, wish I had gotten that one to try instead, my 3070 is thermal throttling averaging 83c with hotspot well over 100c, could really use a cool down. I am a noobie so not sure yet how to undervolt this thang. Oh well...
Great review! There doesn't seem to be a lot of thermal paste comparisons on RUclips, so this really helped me. I'll probably go for either the GC-4 or MX-6 for my AMD CPU.
Noctua NT-H2 is really good. I always tought that paste is not important,used cheapest paste and gaming peformance was really bad,cpu was thermal throttling . My i7 10700k was 83-90c under heavy load always. After trying Noctua, i was really impressed because it took temps down to 61C under heavy load and cpu was not thermal throttling anymore so better fps also.
Yes, Noctua makes the best thermal paste and heatsinks. They know what they're doing and nothing sketchy can happen like with liquid metals.
More than likely you just installed the cooler wrong the first time.
@@joshgts9675 Nah it was stock paste ,it did not overheat just ran hot for 2 years.Paste compounds make huge difference how fast it can transfer heat. I'm not beginner been building PC's since 2010.
Excellent video, although I would have liked to see the core frequency numbers as this may influence the temperature. What if a temperature was lower because the CPU was drawing less power due to lower clocks?
Straight to the point, well done. You've got a new subscriber 👏
Thanks buddy 🙏 I actually really enjoyed making this video, from now on these types of video straight to the point 👍
Personally, I think that the most important thing is which CPU and GPU it is used for. If it is not something high end, there is no need to buy expensive paste. Each paste has its own purpose
I have an RTX-4090 and I applied GC-4 a few months ago, at the beginning the results were impressive, the hot spot dropped from 92C to 82C in stress test but after a few months the hot spot is back to 92C so I don't know if this is a good solution for the GPUs. Maybe the problem is that the paste just squeezed out and decomposed because of the high pressure, I will try some thermal sheets like KryoSheet and will see the difference in long therm.
This is the problem with some pastes on the GPU, I have found this issue as well, 6-8 months and they pump out. I have to make the updated video soon 😀
@@LevelUPGamingTech Alright, so one of my friends gave me one piece of thermal pad Honeywell ptm7950 and here are my first results in FurMark after installing it on my RTX 4090: Default fan and not overclocked: GPU temp 69C, hot spot 81C, memory 60C; Overclocked 110% 500w, core +125, Mem +1500, custom fan, GPU temp 67C, hot spot 79C-80C, memory 60C. I was told after a few days the temps should drop more because the pad should accommodate. Room temp +25C, I will make an update maybe in 2-3 months with new results.
same here hotspot back to beginning gelid gc-4
@@ลีโอ-ป9ศ I got applied Honeywell PTM7950 Phase-change Pad a few weeks ago and the temperature is impressive, I have now 72-74C on hot spot in stress test
I not recommend using sheet or even the carbonat
Vlad you should try phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer, performs works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-out effect.
On the power section (vrm) and vrams I advice to give thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro. Does an amazing job, temperatures can drop by as 5-10°C on the vrams.
Thanks for suggesting 👍
Seems a little suspect that the Gelid GC-4 uses screenshots from your video in their Amazon marketing. Products have done this with other people too but what makes it weird is that suddenly after decades of similar performing thermal pastes theirs actually has a significant different somehow. And despite this significant difference there’s basically no other reviews of it on RUclips. Seems dicey.
Well I got it and it works so it’s whatever
All in all ... even some "overclockers" thermal compunds (yeah, thermal grizzly)... are in basic similar and results are pretty much, marginally, similar/same as "normal" ones. I tested few noctua TC's in past, results were worse than arctic, until i settled for MX-2, MX-4 ... and dont yell on me for MX-2 ... it's one of the top long-term GPU TC. Why ? Viscosity is mother of TC's for GPU. Keep up Vlad, i really liked this video.
Thanks man 🥳
I'm sure this was a long and strenuous test for ya, Vlad. Thanks for the info, bro!
This still stands like this on my desk 🤣 I finished these tests 2 days ago and have 0 energy left do dismantle it now 😆
But the info that I got is valuable 🙌
@@LevelUPGamingTech You did a good job on this review. Much appreciate your hard work👊🏾
Thanks for this video it really helped me to choose what thermal paste to use❤
Glad I could help!
For my Asus rog strix RX 580 8gb use mx-6 with Extreme OC + UV only 60° in this Summer. The GPU stock run 53°. I think Is a good thermal paste. Good video.
Thanks buddy 👍 Regarding the temps this summer, it's a hot one for sure, my RTX 4090 went from cozy 53 at all times to 61+ just because 😂 Can't wait for the summer to be over so I can use my computer for free hetaing again 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@LevelUPGamingTech is it mx 6 ?
I use Arctic Mx-4.
🤷🏻♂️ works good for me and I like the viscosity.
at 3080 my mx6 showed a very good result and low temperatures, and mx4 just stratified after a couple of months, I'll try GC 4
Try and let me know, I had super strange results with my 3090. That card is a dumpster fire 🔥🤣
@@LevelUPGamingTech hey brother, can you tell me if gc4 thick compared to GC extreme, for laptop ?
GC Extreme is slightly thicker actually
I was hoping that GC-4 would provide some kind of miracle. I should have known better. I applied MX-4 to my CPU about 10 months ago and just ran a comparison test with CB25 for 5 mins. and Y-cruncher 2.5B. I applied some GC-4 and unfortunately the results for maximum and average were with a degree of each other. I would call this margin of error. Still a good paste though.
It depends also on the CPU/GPU some of them will give you same results, but on some more hotter CPUs for example, you will start noticing differences... See in my example, MX-6 is totally funky on the GPU while the same on on the CPU is within margin with others...
@@LevelUPGamingTech I think that the GC-4 needed to "cure" for about 24 hours and it reached a bit better performance. I did beat out my MX-4 by a few degrees in the end so good suggestion to use that paste.
@@MikeS3000 If I obeyed the 24h rule while doing all the tests it would take me a month 😁 But yeah some pastes are better after 24 or 48h, some maybe even more. Sometimes spreading helps too, or even the "perfect" amount. It all varies a lot... For example, I took off same cooler 3-4 times from 7950X the other day I did Lian Li Galahad II AIO tests, each time I got different results, in the end I said fk it and just put paste in the middle of the CPU and call it a day, like I slapped paste and slapped cooler on top, it turned out the best 😂😂😂😂
@@LevelUPGamingTech I hear ya! Great video by the way. I really enjoyed the comparisons. I've been building PCs for about 20 years and this kind of testing is still fun!
@@MikeS3000 It always is, just takes a lot of time 😀
Grouse video Vlad, I really enjoyed it. 👍
I have never heard of GC-4, I might have to check them out one day.
But I have enough MX-4 (my go to paste as well) & some NH-1 left for that special build. 🤘
MX-4 is a good allrounder paste, just needs to be changed frequently, like 3-4 months
The famous grouse
Thanks now I know for sure what my next thermal paste will be 👍
Idk if anyone let you know in the comments, but you pronounced "viscosity" perfectly.
Hahhahha thanks dude 😀 Btw English is not my native language so do count that it's 2x harder for me for most of the words 👍
When Gelid win, haters come. Always the same. Thanks for the video. GC4 is on my shopping list already. Looks like they are back on top (GC extreme worked really good and it was a chart topper for me, but few years ago, somethink happend and the quality was getting lower with each batch).
i got a tube of gc4 and it didnt change my temps at all if anything they were higher than the normal gc extreme :(
@@User-ot1cgyeahh same, what other paste did you use?
Did you check the clock speeds on the 3090 with these pastes? If it’s downclocking it’s no wonder it’s running cooler. It should be consistent but you won’t know unless you check the core frequency graphs.
it was locked at 1860 MHz for each test
Changed thermal paste from Noctua to Gelid GC4 on 12900K - difference is in 5-7 degrees in favor of Gelid. Great thermal paste, works as intended. Also, I seriously do not understand people that are using stupid amount of voltage for their CPUs and then come here to bitch and moan about thermal paste. Like suuuure, thermal paste is the main issue for you. Strange people.
Thanks for letting us know 🙌
Agree for what you said 100% 😉
Maybe to early to ask but how is the "pump out" on Gelid GC4? i did order lots of thermal pastes incl: Gelid GC extreme, Gelid GC-4, Arctic MX-4, Kryosheet latest graphene pad, PTM7950 thermal pad and Upsiren UX pro putty.
@@lawshadow2011hi, anything you have learned so far? I used gelid gc 4 but my Temps are the same, I think it's slightly worse maybe because the technician put the paste on top of my old paste in my laptop
I had rather high HOTSPOT temps on my RTX 4090 ie gpu core to hotspot = whopping 23c !! with my rtx 4090 waterblock from EKWB. So i remounted it asked EKWB for the PROPER tension in "NM" they said 0.6nm in the end i ordered a certified NM screwdriver (01.nm - 1.2nm) and applied 0.4nm on all screws with STOCK EKWB thermal pads and changed the paste from Arctic MX-6 to Gelid Extreme GC (not the nr 4 Gelid) dropped gpu core to hotspot = 6c !!! Thats a huge drop in HOTSPOT temps. This was a couple months ago however now im getting around 10c - 11c gpu core to hotspot delta this could mean the paste i am using is starting the "pump out" effect i sure hope not. If it stays at around MAX 13c core to hotspot delta im fine but if it is further going downhill then i am FED UP and will use Gryzzly Cryosheet or PTM7950 these two thermal solutions do NOT suffer from ANY pump out even at LONG duration ie years and years.
The issue is "PUMP OUT" on certain pastes look it up what it means basically it means compressing certain paste between 2 blocks of metal and try to squeeze out the paste.....thats basically "pump out" which can leave certain spots on your cpu or gpu d1e with less coverage with paste thus increasing temps not only mounting pressure but also temps variations can lead to pump out. Arctic MX-4 is regarded as one of the best paste when it comes down to consistency and viscosity it doesnt suffer to much from "pump out" and is regarded as one of the longest for durability sure its not the super uber best performance (minus 2c from the rest). Have a look at PTM7950 and Cryosheet (warning cryosheet = electrical conductive so use precautions ie use KAPTON TAPE to cover the cpu or gpu SMD's)@@renegadesg018
Definitely appreciate video. It would be great to see your AMD results because while I understand your reasoning, couldn't it be helpful to compare the pastes based on how high of clock speeds they can reach on a given setup? That's why I'm curious to see those results as well.
It's extremely surprising how incredibly little reviews or testing there is of GC-4 paste, there's next to zero besides yourself. I think I'll buy some, do you know how long it's supposed to hold up before reapplying?
While you have the point for clocks those AMD test would be like 95-95-95-95-95 (or whichever TJ limit you set in BIOS) 🤣 clocks would be most of the time maxed out, it's only a matter of time for how long, and trust me it would have eaten my time. This is the main reason why I did not include them 👍
Regarding reapplying well idk for how long, I do change mine every 6-7 months anyway, I think longest I left a paste is 1 year 😉
the application of thermal paste is also very imp, and you have to either use spatula to cover all the ends or put enough paste in a proper manner on the die before putting on the cooler.....
Unfortunately, these results mostly fall within a margin of error I would say. Which is consistent with other videos I've seen testing pastes. Very hard to actually draw conclusions here.
Great video, keep up the good work.
Thank you 🙏
i bought gc-4 because of this. turns out an Arctic MX-4 performs better and doesnt dry that quickly.
There is the issue that pastest will not perform same on same CPU and AIO and such. For example, MX-4 is by far the worst for GPU for me, pump out real quick, literally after a week. GC Extreme is ok for like 3-4 months on the GPU and then dries and pumps as well. On the CPU, MX-4 is actually best allrounder, but GC-4 is better in the long run, I had it for a year almost then it started to lose properties.
Also there is a new batch of MX-6 that is quite good on both GPUs and CPUs...
Gotta make a new video with those pastes and Phase Change pads
I've been using MX-6 this past year and it's been working perfect. I use I on my i7-7700k and it stay under 55Celcius even when playing GTA5. I just use a DeepCool air cooler.
Edit: It is delid and use liquid metal on CPU die.
Delid explains a lot, you gained 15-20 just by doing that and using LM
Thank You. Saved much cash as GC4 is cheapest in my country 😛😉👍 and Best in your tests on GPU
Thanks for this test! Really helpful info
Thanks, Vlad. 👍
Glad you liked it 🙌
I use mx-4, mx-6 now or some cheap deepcool z10 whenever i test my cpu, gpu or when I plan to remove it again from the heatsink and it works fine for both - no pumpout but both mx-6 and mx-4 pumps out from my gpu so I am now using ptm 7950 when it is direct die and laptops
you use PTM 7950 for GPU?
@fahimalmahi1514 yes since ptm 7950 works best on direct die and is resistant to pumpout effect unlike thermal pastes. it also lasts longer which is reported to have a life of 10 years. Lenovo legion uses ptm 7950 on their newer gen laptops too.
@@krj2209 for desktop pc gpu is it beneficial?
Also do you apply it on the gpu itself or just the memory I am bit confused on that part because all I see about thermal pads they use only on the memory
I want to apply on the gpu core itself
So can I use it on there?
@@fahimalmahi1514 I apply ptm 7950 which is a thermal "phase change" that looks like a .25mm thermal pad on a gpu's die and I use Thermal pad hy234 (the first one I used) or Upsiren U6 pro (not to be confused with the computer systems brand they are shit, chinese seller are the og) for vram and vrm.
@@fahimalmahi1514 My comment didnt go through the time you commented so PTM 7950 phasechange is to be placed on to cpu direct die and gpu direct die carefully and prepared by putting it in freezer for 10mins as application is hard. and Upsiren U6 pro (not the gr system or something the china ones are the better and original) on vram, it's like a play-doh that is place on vrm and vram and you will place it where the old thermal pads goes.
good detail thank you
Thanks buddy 😊
Great review!
Thank you 🙏
Arctic silver on gpu, then a same viscosity mixture on cpu like gc4or arctic mx4, but it all depends what you want
NTH1 and NTH2 pastes from Noctua are literally always either #1 or in the TOP 3 on every single comparison on RUclips, but people still recommend the Arctic MX6 over it... Even though both NTH1 and NTH2 are better AND show better(cooler) results... That's like watching a Porsche beat a Fiat in a 2 lap race and then when asked what do you recommend, you say Fiat. I don't get it, am I missing something here, or? Is it because of the price? Because Arctic is cheaper? I was about to get the MX6 but now I'm seriously considering getting NTH1...
gc4 is cheap as hell though, 8$ for a 10g tube
Did you watch THIS video? It doesn’t look like it.
In this one, the Noctuas are both behind the MX6.
This is not the right place to vent, mate.
Mx6 is worse than noctua nt h2 by 4c i tested them
Because noctua dries out after like 6 months of use
@@KommonCents_ dude i just paste 1 day a goo and noctua dont dry aftet six month ..even after 1 year still good
For those who wanna buy gc-4. DONT.
Tried and tested myself. Max temp playing valorant 82c. Using AK620 cooler. 5800x
Arctic mx4 is much better.
If you don’t believe me, u can test it your self.
i just ordered bro😢
What makes you say that? GC-Extreme is well known for direct die it is well recommended for laptop's, makes sense their new GC-4 performs the same if not better, I don't know I still didn't see many reviews on the GC-4, but why make such a comment like your opinion is the bottom line on a nicely made benchmark?!
Did you apply it on direct die? what was your test? how can we take your word for it?
@@asafheller5720 try it. "If you don’t believe me, see for your self."
@@AdamJensen447 you can update me here. but obviously if you are currently using generic thermalpaste or a cheap one, gc4 will win.
Their extreme is good, just as good as MX-4 but not better than MX-6, so i guess gc-4 should be better than MX-4
I don't know if it's possible but wouldn't it be easier for the processor and cpu cooler factories to try to smooth the metal as best as possible so that there are no imperfections?
The issue is that that's almost impossible. Even if the metal was as smooth as a piece of glass, under the microscope, there would be imperfections.
Such things usually used for very specific purpose. Most of the time when it's same manufacturer of both: silicon and heatsink plate. And only for pairs: this specific silicon and this specific heatsink plate. With NVIDIA scale and AIB veriety it's just impossible. NVIDIA might try to do it for FE, but even 100K units will be disaster. Extreme overcclockers do so. It's difficult and price of an error is very high.
The prolimatech pk-3 nano would've been a good thing to test, it lasts way longer than kryonaut and better. One thing you should mention is the longevity and pump out resistance of the pastes.
background music is too damn loud
oh dang sorry
Applied mx-4 on my 6700xt , temps are good after re-paste and went worse after only a month even with undervolt , will try gelid next
Applied it on my laptop, so far its good but still waiting for that month like yours. Hopefully all goes well for me but so far temps are pretty sick for gaming, it didn't reach above 80c and hovering around 66-69c most of the time
Can you test the Gelid paste against KPX and Kryonaut Extreme?
I will try to get them, can't promise, but I am curious about TG pastes as well 😃
@@LevelUPGamingTech would love that test aswell :) to prove the gc-4 once more!
What do you recommend for gaming laptop that have higher temps? Which one do you think is best so it does not dry out after few months? Would like the best performing one and one we dont need to replace all the time. I think Gelid Extreme would be best. But please confirm.
I was about to say the same, due to its thickness 👌
@@LevelUPGamingTech Gelid Extreme or Gelid GC-4 for gaming laptop?
@@heydaddy6817hey hey! Gelid gc-4 is not for bare die chips and board, if you use it on laptop, you will face pump out effect within a few days of application if you play heavy games or use intense software, so my recommendation would be to use GC extreme as imo, it's still the best and undisputed thermal paste for the laptop.
what is better for gaming laptop do i need less viscous or more viscous paste for laptop. which paste will u recommend nt h2 or gc extreme
none of those you mentioned, the best would be honeywell PTM 7950 or newly released thermal grizzly phasechange PTM
@@nerijus01 i know ptm i dont want ptm thats why i am asking paste, the reason i dont want ptm is in india i cannot get stuffs from aliexpress so i will need to go for work around, so i was asking for paste. will gc extreme be too thick for laptop
Ptm7950 for laptops is goat
Hi Very informative and nice workaround video
thank you for doing these kinda videos for us.
I have bought a new Deepcool AK 400 for my RYZEN 7 3700x which is OC at 4.2ghz
i haven't changed thermal paste since 2020 which i have used in 2020 corsair TM30 and i'm using Wraith prism cooler
So for direct touch heat pipe coolers like AK 400 will GELID GC 4 be good enough as in you video it is out performing every paste that listed there.
Thank you and need some valuable suggestion
MX-6 or GC-4 and you are good 👍
@@LevelUPGamingTech okay i have ordered Gelid GC 4 bro.
Thanks a lot and we hope we get to see more pc related stuff and i hope this channel grows stronger.
Awesome info, and I'm glad we got some new options. Hopefully Arctic remains competitive and releases a new one 🙂
P.S. Great new recording angle!
MX-6 is highly competitive but idk what is going on with GPU application, that thing is still strange to me 🤔
Thanks for noticing buddy 😊
Very informative thanks. You should test Fuze-Ice by Iceberg Thermal, their thermal conductivity was listed as 13 w/mk for FuzeIce Plus and 11.25 w/mk for standard FuzeIce, not bad if accurate.
Have I ever wondered which paste was the best? I'm still wondering mate......
I just got the Gelid gc-4, what application do you recommend for an R5 5600X?, pea, rice or spread?
Also, is there much difference between using 70% and 90% isopropyl alcohol to clean old CPU and cooler thermal paste?
Thanks
Cleaning is best done with medical benzene it takes everything off and leaves no residues. You can wipe one more time with 70 or 96% alcohol.
For that CPU maybe a 5 dots method works the best 👌
@@LevelUPGamingTech Thank you.
I would never use Noctua pastes (H1 and H2) ever again. Those pastes dryout waaaaay to fast.
Yeah, at the point of 6 months they are almost completely dried out, I noticed this also, firstly they need time to cure properly, they need like 3-4 days to fully settle, this will give maybe 1 degree better temps then initially tested, but will dry out eventually
@@LevelUPGamingTechhey , should i get GC -4 for long term like 3-4 years
Lol using my same H1 application w/ my NH-D15s for over 7 years straight now lmfao...still rocking a 7700k and EVGA SC+ 1080ti and I'm not going to upgrade until 6090 or 7090 .
KPx High Performance vs Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme that's a battle I would like to see
its the same results between the 2! the battle has already done from a special person in youtube!
Can you do a new video comparison with thermal pads? Will be very great
I have a SONY VAIO VPCF 136FM laptop. It gets SO HOT that the PC shut off on its own WHEN I watch videos on RUclips ONLY. Does the quality of Thermal Paste involve in this problem? If yes, Would you recommend the right one which has the ultimate possible heat conductivity? For now, I used Arctic thermal paste Silver 5 on both CPU and GPU.
GD-2 $1 3g will beat all of them on the list.
MX-6 has treated me very good for the last year
Thanks
what do you think about this:
Thermal Compound Paste 18W
Thermal conductivity means nothing a long time ago, just read the quote on Arctic's website for example. I have seen pastes with high numbers and yet they perform really poorly.
"did it won" crazzzzyyy
Since Grizzly scratched my old air cooler and CPU I used MX5 that was included with new AIO...
Interesting 😎 Great Video 👍🥤
Thanks dude 😎
How's the GC-4 doing so far on the GPU? It's easier to spread than GC extreme so I'm worried about pump-out. I've read plenty of complaints about Arctic for pump-out on GPU application.
What you mean pump-out? As in it will slide over the chip, or? Still is on my 3090 going strong, we shall see for how long 😉 And yes it is easier to spread than GCE
@@LevelUPGamingTech I'm not sure about the correct term but I'm referring to performance degradation over time with the paste drying out.
I'm want to repaste my GPU but I'm reading horror stories about Arctic & Noctua being good at first, then needing to be re-applied after a couple of weeks.
@@ailluinthethyra6139 For Arctic MX-4 yes it is true, I can confirm, month top two and re-paste, Noctua maybe more can't properly confirm for Noctua as I changed it fast. So far GCE is still going strong on some of my GPUs, GC4 is still rocking solid on 3090, we shall see over time I guess
How long does the Gelid dc-4 last before you need to tepaste??? 🤔🤔
Honestly idk, I still have one in my main PC, it's in there maybe a month after this video, still going strong, didn't notice any decrease in performance
GD900 is a must try if you're on a budget.
anyone bought the gc-4 and wanna share your experience?
Trash. Got baited by this youtuber. Biased review = X I think he's somehow partnered with Gelid.
I just use HY-510 for everything. It's cheap and it works great.
I installed thermal grizzly on my gaming laptop and I’m getting 95-100 on my test runs. Not good. Need to get something better. Im assuming thicker paste is better for laptops. Help pls.
your laptop cooling sucks
did you manually spread it? I wouldn't do a blob or X on a laptop since you're doing direct-to-die instead of on a heat spreader. but yes, thicker is better especially for longevity, due to the "heat pump" effect; this is where as the chip heats and cools, it expands and contracts up and down like a pump, which over many heat cycles will cause the paste to be pushed out, and is much more apparant on direct-to-die applications (watercooling can help reduce this, but that's a discussion for desktops with GPU waterblocks)
@@glebglub thank you for taking the time to reply to this. I’m going to get a thicker paste and spread it evenly. I’ll get back to you on my temps.
@@geraldsaved no problem and good luck! don't forget you want to gradually screw in opposite corners to make sure you're applying as even pressure as possible, else the paste may squeeze out too, so do say top left a half turn, bottom right a half turn, bottom left a half turn, top right a half turn, and repeat.
as a side note, did you replace the thermal pads too or keep the original ones? I ask because if you replaced them too, it could be they're too thick/stiff so the heatsink isn't making proper contact with the die anymore
@@glebglub yup new pads! Okay for sure I’ll follow the opposite screw pattern to make sure it evenly spread. What thermal paste would your recommend for a thicker consistency?
Is the Gelid GC-4 good for laptops? I've heard that runny thermal pastes like the MX-4 are prone to pump-out in applications like GPUs and laptops. The GC-4 seems to be easier to spread compared to the GC-Extreme but is it still thick enough to withstand pump-out?
It is no issues with that, stays in one place. MX-6 as well 👌
@@LevelUPGamingTech Thanks for the info. Also, is the GC-4 thicker than the NT-H1?
About the same thickness I would say
you sure the artic mx 6 on the gpu is true? cause like in every other review its one of if not the best
It's doubtful, he probably applied it wrong
@@luka-cc9lz ok thx
MX6 is a very thick thermal paste, when I tried on my GPU it made nearly no difference and was a pain to apply with it being more like clay than paste lol.
@@astoraan6071 oh ok so the noctua is the better move then?
@@lior2k but why is the arctic so bad? Because its so thick?
You basically cannot buy GC 4 anywhere, why?
It’s on Amazon for $8, I just ordered some.
@@colbycol6502its good?
No grizzly? Dang wanted to see hydronaut
Bro doesnt even give the most important info: Thermal conudctivity
On purpose as it is completely up to the manufacturer to say this, and they do not give this information, some of them. I will quote Arctic on this:
"ARCTIC made a conscious decision not to specify any values for the thermal conductivity of its thermal paste and thermal pads because many manufacturers invent, artificially inflate or embellish this value. Thermal paste has a thermal conductivity of 1 to 4 W/mK. Values outside of this range, such as 12.5 W/mK, are at odds with the truth.
Many competitors quote values above 4 W/mK to suggest better performance. It often leads to false expectations and dissatisfied users.
ARCTIC offers its customers innovative thermal interface materials at the best possible price-performance ratio instead of relying on manipulated performance data."
@@LevelUPGamingTech Makes sense
@@BeatstormX Yup that is why I did not say anything, forgot to mention that in the video... And it is true, I had some thermal pads that said 15W used them on the GPU, my mem tjunction was going crazy. Used some other ones that are rated as 8W, generally lower than those 15W, day and night difference 😁
Kyronaut : You didn't invited me to party?😂
Kryonaut - enters the chat... other pastes, oh $hit it's him😂
yeah its best paste between all of them but only for a month then dried pretty quicky
Gonna have to invite him to the party every month or so
Hahahaha nice one 😅
i use arctic mx6 at the moment, its good so far
very good!!!
Appreciate the input 😊
longetivity?
What about Cooler Master Cryofuze V . Do you recommend this for direct cpu die for replacement delidding IHS..?
Direct die cooling, only PTM 7950, there's no better thing. New video upcoming on all of this, just need time to finish the new studio 😁
@LevelUPGamingTech Thank you, and good luck for the new studio.
@@rolandoimanuelle950 Thanks man 😀
Sponsored my gelid
It’s really good lol my gpu was overheating with the mx 6 by arctic or whatever and it fixed my overheating issue when I swapped it out
thanks
thankyou👍🙏
No kryonaut in 2023 tests? Seriously?
Kryonaut are trash after healing time..
@@k0rz4khow long does it take to pass the healing time ? I've been using it for a while. It does feel like it's degraded but it's been a whole year lol
healing time doesn't exist. after a few hours using the new paste, the extra humidity vapors and the paste becomes solid. it wont change anymore.
TG Kryonaut is not at all suitable for gaming laptops in which the temperature practically non-stop oscillates at 80°C. After 6-8 months there is a pump out effect or simply the paste dries out. The best solution is a phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950, Upsiren PCM-1 or Gelid HeatPhase Ultra in which the above-mentioned problem does not occur.
@@goorthiss Doesn't matter if it dries out, this is all internet panic, the performance stays.
Is anyone familiar with replacing thermal pads on a laptop? Does it help at all? Or keep OEM
Depends if they have pads or not, usually GPU and CPU are with thermal paste on a copper heatpipe, while memory can have thermal pads. Basically it is easy, you just need the correct thickness for the pads, most common are 0.5, 1, 1.5 and 2mm, somewhere even 3.0mm are used. In rare cases there are very strange dimensions like 0.75 or 1.25... Doesn't hurt to get them all, you might need them someday, somewhere...
@@LevelUPGamingTech the laptop has the original pads it came with. I guess my goal would be to lower overall thermals. I repasted already. I was hoping that replacement of the pads with a higher end pad would help.
@@geraldsaved It would but do not expect some miracles, Thermalright has good pads, would be better than stock that is for sure, just as I said get the correct thickness...
@@LevelUPGamingTech ok thanks for the help and response.
Try out the phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer, performs in my experience works better than traditional pastes and there is no pump-put effect.
On the power section (vrm) and vrams I advice to give thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro.
Have you tried GD900?
I wouldn't even add it to the list. It shows good results, but degrades quickly (gets dry in about a year, and in the last few months temperatures start rising).
I am cancelling my mx6 order which is costing me 11 dollars for 4gram and ordering Gelid GC4 because it is available amazon india for 3.8 dollar for 1 gram.I cant spare more money to a thermal paste if your review is true then i will update here on my comment.
You are in for a good ride :)
so what
и как вам GC-4?
Crazy, i got 8gram for 8 euro😂
My ROG RYUO III aio came pre pasted. I just put it on ( 7900x3d) and have had no issues. Temps are where they should be.
Can i also use The Geldi GC-4 on my GPU ?? Or its only for CPU's??
You can apply both to the CPU and GPU, but I would more recommend applying phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950, Upsiren PCM-1 or Gelid HeatPhase Ultra.
Would you like to inclue a new brazilian thermal paste in your tests
Bruh there is a thermal paste from the North pole too 🥶
@@user-wc3tz3be1j Our thermal paste, freez more than north pole rs
i test this gc 4 compare to nth 1 that are recommended by gpd win 4 2023 , well nth 1 run 3 deg c cooler
Im using MX 4 but im tented to buy MX 6 because right now are in same price, i jusr changed the thermal paste on a Thinkpad t480s and jesus christ the i7 8650U hits thermal throttling condtantly and is worsen by the bad fan curve, the damn laptop shuts off the fan at 50c but if you had a sudden junp hits thernal throttling and you got 10-15 minute of down clocks because the fan didnt catch up with the heat.
I’m waiting for my mx-6 to deliver and paste it on my t480 hello fellow thinkpad user :). mine start up at 70C and throttle at 90 or sth during heavy load I wonder how much will it drops after applying it. Did you use the new paste yet? Tell me how it feels
@@Bentodev42 I try it mx 4, idle is between 40-48, 48 right before closing everything and in desktop, in 1-2 minutes it idles up to 40c, room temperature is 33c-36c (lol, and we reach 40c yesterday), it throttles at 90c usually because there's some moments it hits 99, now with chrome usually is in the 55-65 before it was 67-77, if I put a RUclips video before repasting throttled some times now is rare case it throttles but I think it's not chrome it's another process because sometimes in idle jumps in temps, the thing here is that the cooling is not capable to to dissipate quickly, I tested modifying the rpm of the fan to run it at 5xxx rpm and the temperatures rise slowly but hits thermal, I guess the only way is Mx-6 and undervolting :(. The mx 6 seems better on thermal conductivity in high temps so it could help to move quickly. I'm happy with mx 4 but I want to try mx 6 nonetheless.
@@Bentodev42 Hi dude, I'm in a place that I can control the room temperature and I'm having with edge with some pdf, email, Exel note pad and I'm having in cpu package 38-41°C, 25°c room temperature (office), I'm gonna test it Aida and other things to tell you if it throttles
@@Bentodev42 Hi, sorry to bother you again, i tried other thing previous to do the undervolt, i peeled off the mesh that is on the base, the part of the fan and today 50% that is down the cpu, i know that im going to need to do some clenaning more often but the mesh seems really restricting, the part of the fan it helped to disipate faster when hits thermal throttling, the CPU one i can't believe that it helped 1-2 °c and if i put a fan base is another 1-2 less, in a room at 32 °c its 45 cpu package and 38 in core temps via HWiNFO, the powe mode is max perf, if i put better battery goes 43 °c (sometimes 40) and the fan shuts off, tomorrow at the office if i have time i will take some numbers (usuallly room temp is at 20 °C), in the office people uses E14 models and the changed to MX 6 recently, they seem a little better, i think thinkpads has not the best cooling system :(.
@@jfsps15 well for my t480 given that we only have like one cooling copper pipe I figured that going core i7 is gonna run unnecessary hot and another discovery i made is. When booting up windows my fan runs hot like 67C and this does not happen when I use void linux. I still got 2 month warranty from my reseller so imma wait and use the mx6 later . regarding the mesh though it is restricting i think it did a nice job keeping the dust out from the interior
For on AMD 7950X with MX-4 is the best 38 Celsius on Artic liquid cooling 2 also on Sapphire NItro + 7900 XTX
Do you drink blood? vlad 😂
And I speak bla bla bla 😂🤣😂🤣
@@LevelUPGamingTech yeah , maybe next video ❤️
Here my testing with gc4 vs mx6
Gc 4 better in my 3090 385 watt for both gc4 got 71c while mx6 got 75 btw i use de shroud 3090 so better fan and both lock in 100% fan
Are the wattages the same, that is, do they use the same power and did you experience a fps drop when using gc 4?
I saw a test on reddit and I noticed that the wattage values dropped, fps values etc. dropped, so I'm wondering and asking if you have the opportunity to answer.
great video
got the mx6
song name?
IC Diamond without a doubt…anything else is a lie. I have done kryonaut etc….