Tina Turner talks about race, David Bowie & performing with Mick Jagger

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2011
  • Tina Turner talks about her amazing career, Disco and why it's so hard for Women to get into the music industry.
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  • @EricBlackmonGuitar
    @EricBlackmonGuitar Год назад +42

    I have always admired this woman but lately I have found NEW admiration for her. R.I.P. Tina.

  • @mrsbluesky8415
    @mrsbluesky8415 Год назад +117

    Tina has seen it all from dirty dives to big arenas. I love her grit, energy and down to earth style. Amazing woman. Rest In Peace Tina Turner ❤

    • @inchworm2402
      @inchworm2402 Год назад +3

      When Tina toured New Zealand in early 90's Wellington we didn't have a stadium at the time and she performed the Wintershow grounds it's like barn with bad acoustics great performance from Tina it really let her vocals down she sounded thin. Being a musician myself I really know how frustrating that would of been but, she soldiered on. Now that's class.❤

    • @shannonswift2233
      @shannonswift2233 Год назад

      to breaking Guinness World Records by breaking every rule (pun intended) in the largest football stadiums on Earth. She achieved her dream

  • @DiverBand
    @DiverBand Год назад +19

    My God is this woman absolutely gorgeous. Ultra talented and one of the most exciting dynamic performers ever. Rest in peace beautiful lady. The world will miss you Tina.

  • @anniebroadbent7961
    @anniebroadbent7961 Год назад +29

    What I love is how she takes the interview seriously. She's considered and respectful.

  • @Inner-wellbeing
    @Inner-wellbeing 3 года назад +96

    She is so beautiful. Resilient. A Goddess 🦋

  • @patriciakunz1198
    @patriciakunz1198 Год назад +20

    Tina is so wise and honest. Tina knows how to connect!! She is an angel.

  • @jacquiecheney2201
    @jacquiecheney2201 Год назад +36

    Tina Turner' a legend in her own lifetime. RIP Tina & thank you for your music.

  • @Dang...
    @Dang... Год назад +20

    She's obviously as thoughtful, intelligent, and articulate as she is talented and beautiful. Timeless, classy. She made the world a better place through her art.

  • @Joshualuv13
    @Joshualuv13 Год назад +98

    I hope Tina is now reunited with Bowie ,Freddie ,George , and Whitney, all those great music legends who have left before her .❤

    • @faarkit
      @faarkit Год назад +8

      God bless you Tina and thank you for all the music and entertainment you gave us. You were Simply The Best. RIP Beautiful Lady.

    • @chrissimpson6701
      @chrissimpson6701 Год назад +2

      They are all in Hell. None of these beloved people unfortunately accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. John 3:16-17. #UglyTruth

    • @revolutionishere
      @revolutionishere Год назад

      ​@@chrissimpson6701 Whitney brought Jesus everywhere she went you disgusting fool. I swear we find you on the streets 👁️👁️

    • @everythingisaprocess
      @everythingisaprocess Год назад +12

      @@chrissimpson6701 How do you know what people have accepted before they took their last breath? Not only is it rude, but as a spiritual person myself, I will tell you that it is spiritually dangerous to say people are in hell when you have no idea where they are. A person can be a serial killer and still ask God for forgiveness and accept God before they die. Since you are quoting the Bible, you should know that.

    • @williamj.crofts41
      @williamj.crofts41 Год назад +3

      Yes I hope she's with beloved sister and her son.
      And I hope that's she's made Peace with her parents.... along all her family from back home in Tennessee who have gone before

  • @1NationMediaUS
    @1NationMediaUS Год назад +11

    Tina Turner (Anna Mae Bullock; November 26, 1939 - May 24, 2023 - The Queen of Rock-N-Roll died at 83 today. She had a long and incredible life. I miss you already TIna. Say hello to my mom.

  • @jolinvermeulen7710
    @jolinvermeulen7710 Год назад +7

    Incredible, vibrant and so original Mam Turner. She lived a life we can only imagine. In South Africa we have a saying:" You strike a woman, you strike a rock" Mam Turner is a mountain that could not be moved. I bow my head in respect, I let my heart sing with her triumphs. Bayete Iron Queen

  • @tana5098
    @tana5098 Год назад +16

    What an interesting woman. I've learned more about Tina Turner the last few days than she was at her peak in the 80's. She was smart, good at marketing herself, and a hard worker. I have new found respect for what Tina Turner accomplished during her career and life. A strong, confident person.

    • @ramirez3264
      @ramirez3264 Год назад +4

      Had the same. A lot of things popped up. But I read a few recent interviews
      She saw Jagger and Bowie as her brothers.
      If the womensmovement needs a strong example take Tina.

  • @tammybrantley6262
    @tammybrantley6262 3 года назад +46

    Tina is so graceful , fun and extremely talented!!!!

  • @PaddyIrishman
    @PaddyIrishman Год назад +19

    Always loved Tina. Rest in peace, Queen of Rock N Roll. ❤

  • @rosenasemena5631
    @rosenasemena5631 Год назад +3

    Great performer Queen of Rock n Roll. No one will replace late Tina.

  • @tattyshoesshigure5731
    @tattyshoesshigure5731 6 лет назад +51

    Love that amazing smile she has, it's like the sun coming out.... just love Tina! XX

  • @karlmahlmann
    @karlmahlmann 7 лет назад +101

    She's pretty articulate and has a great head for show biz. Some of her shows have an amazing amount of physical energy. A great talent.

  • @chuckgranado3530
    @chuckgranado3530 Год назад +50

    What insight. An amazing artist, woman, human being. Untouchable! 🔥

  • @CuirPhotodotNet
    @CuirPhotodotNet 6 лет назад +142

    She really nailed it with her observation about Bowie.....bravo !!!!!

    • @melizmatea
      @melizmatea 5 лет назад +8

      I agree!

    • @jeanetteduda6611
      @jeanetteduda6611 4 года назад +8

      No Cornelius. YOU NAILED IT!!!!

    • @CuirPhotodotNet
      @CuirPhotodotNet 3 года назад +12

      Thank you...i think the 2 of them..were so complete together...the ELEMENTAL WOMAN...and the ALIEN MAN..

    • @Dino-su2wh
      @Dino-su2wh 2 года назад +2

      @@CuirPhotodotNet Tina is Alien

    • @CuirPhotodotNet
      @CuirPhotodotNet 2 года назад +2

      @@Dino-su2wh ....fun fact....the duet she and MICK did together....the MICHAEL JACKSON SONG....STATE OF SHOCK.....SHE DID NOT KNOW THE WORDS....and she had them written on her hand...HARRY BENSON....the legendary photographer who shot them during LIVE AID told me when i interviewed HIM...and i saw the photo....and yep....he called it...so much fun....

  • @SLAmey-mu9hd
    @SLAmey-mu9hd Год назад +57

    I love the tempo and, articulation of Tina's delivery. She also conrs over as kind and empathetic, laced with humour and a wealth of life experience. A one off ❤️

  • @susanford2388
    @susanford2388 Год назад +10

    Tina Turner was truly a woman of determination, steel & talent. A great entertainer, singer & dancer.

  • @kasnarfburns210
    @kasnarfburns210 Год назад +20

    She seems so authentic and raw in this interview. I guess at that point in her life, she's been through so much , she does NOT have to pretend or impress ANYONE!! She just speaks her mind!!!

  • @terrenceragin5555
    @terrenceragin5555 9 лет назад +98

    She has so much history to tell with her career. I Love the way she talks.

    • @ronp1018
      @ronp1018 2 года назад +3

      The epicenter of rock ‘n’ roll came from St. Louis Missouri with Chuck Berry, Ike turner and Tina.

  • @AndromedonThanks
    @AndromedonThanks Год назад +54

    Tremendous respect for a successful black person who admits they can’t speak to certain disparities because it wasn’t their experience AND THATS IT. She doesn’t invalidate anything anybody else has gone through. RESPECT ❤

    • @BWP-tv5sy
      @BWP-tv5sy Год назад +8

      If you had Diana Ross, Dionne Warwick, Aretha, Patti Labelle in a room alone, do you think this conversation would the same? There are always disparities. You can look at Barbra Streisand in comparison to any of the women I mentioned. Tina is one of those who's main desire was to be palatable, but I understand why. There really isnt much space today to have these conversations, let alone 40 years ago.

    • @troypol343
      @troypol343 Год назад

      Before the WOKE (Marxist) movement. Many today have ZERO class and support the current "Thing."

    • @nberger6984
      @nberger6984 Год назад +3

      @@BWP-tv5sy Whats interesting is that in other videos she talks about moving away from the US because she was more well received in Europe "as famous as Madonna", where as here she was almost boxed in to just RB. Maybe that was less about being a black woman vs just black.

    • @BWP-tv5sy
      @BWP-tv5sy Год назад +2

      @@nberger6984 Exactly, Tina knew what is what but its not profitable to call out "the system".

    • @NTA2200
      @NTA2200 Год назад +2

      Knowledge is Knowing the right thing to say. Even a Fool can be Knowledgeable.
      Wisdom is knowing the right thing to say, at the right time, in the right space. Tina Turner was truly a woman of wisdom. Wisdom that garnered global respect.

  • @tomrobinsondc
    @tomrobinsondc Год назад +8

    Just learned a couple days ago that Tina wore Louboutins WAY before they became iconic from Sex in the City. Always the trendsetter!

  • @badpuppy09
    @badpuppy09 Год назад +14

    Tina is just brilliant! She reminds me somewhat of Dolly Parton and even Marilyn Monroe. Although, Marilyn didn't enjoy that inner peace that Tina found. Tina has a persona that does not disappoint, she is so honest and intelligent in her answers. I just love her for her music, her struggle and triumph. Her positivity is infectious. R.I.P. Tina

  • @zibbyzubb
    @zibbyzubb 2 года назад +24

    I love this period for Tina. She was at her pinnacle.

  • @johnpeter4184
    @johnpeter4184 Год назад +4

    Tina speaks I listen.
    At 75 I remember her early song with Ike on KGFJ a black station in Los Angelas..

  • @mgparis
    @mgparis Год назад +7

    *Each song is a story and I'm living it*
    thank you and rest in peace, Tina!

  • @JJ-bs5bo
    @JJ-bs5bo Год назад +9

    What a warm, beautiful and loving soul! Very special.

  • @9555to
    @9555to 9 лет назад +116

    I love to hear Tina Turner talk and I love her mannerisms.

    • @melaniefelsher4356
      @melaniefelsher4356 5 лет назад +13

      I know, I love the way she says “again”, as if she’s been hanging out with a lot of English guys, lol

    • @kamillion111977
      @kamillion111977 5 лет назад +6

      @@melaniefelsher4356 she's English NOW!

    • @sebasdebordeaux8347
      @sebasdebordeaux8347 4 года назад +3

      yes!! she's amazing to listen to AND to watch!! really a sexy and clever woman..!!

    • @leticiachiok8057
      @leticiachiok8057 2 года назад +4

      Agree. Love Tina a lot!🤗

    • @thebeardedseeker5633
      @thebeardedseeker5633 Год назад +3

      @@melaniefelsher4356 well, she'd been hanging out with a lot of English guys up to that point. 😅

  • @marvelharris9540
    @marvelharris9540 2 года назад +19

    we will never see another great like tina again!

  • @melizmatea
    @melizmatea 4 года назад +70

    I love her, and I think she's very intelligent and articulate, something many people don't know or give her credit for!

    • @Dino-su2wh
      @Dino-su2wh 2 года назад +7

      many people know who she is,we love her

    • @tashalorm4313
      @tashalorm4313 5 месяцев назад

      She loved herself, she gave herself credit, and she validated herself pretty well. She is simply the best.

  • @leticiachiok8057
    @leticiachiok8057 2 года назад +60

    I love these big musical greats, especially David Bowie, my idol. They are all considered legends in their own right.

    • @chrissimpson6701
      @chrissimpson6701 Год назад

      People should not be our idols, only Jesus and God the Father.

    • @revolutionishere
      @revolutionishere Год назад

      ​@@chrissimpson6701 mind your business, you're not a Christian like me. I love Jesus so much, I'd let him rail me, balls deep and everything.

  • @markanthonycoliinson873
    @markanthonycoliinson873 Год назад +11

    Tina Turner was a really sharp and innately clever human being.

  • @cynthiacurrie5589
    @cynthiacurrie5589 Год назад +3

    The 'Still, Silent & Otherworldly' power of David Bowie. Tina, you have captured it exactly!

  • @jeanetteduda6611
    @jeanetteduda6611 4 года назад +47

    I've been lucky enough to have seen a LOT of concerts over the years but NOBODY can touch Tina. PERIOD!!

    • @ajajajaj624
      @ajajajaj624 4 года назад +2

      Beyonce's up there on that level i think
      What about you??

    • @jeanetteduda6611
      @jeanetteduda6611 4 года назад

      Oh yeah. Cannot argue with that AJAJ! Perhaps a "generational thing!"

    • @ajajajaj624
      @ajajajaj624 4 года назад +2

      @@jeanetteduda6611
      I think im whats considered a baby boomer jus turned 50 in may so not generation thing for me lol
      I jus feel ms B can giv as good as ms T
      nice talkn to u😊

    • @joycesmith3209
      @joycesmith3209 4 года назад +10

      AJAJ ajaj Tina is the Queen. Beyoncé is nothing like Tina. Tina has the magic and knowledge of years of the great musicians and is original. Others emulate her, but fall short. She is totally class and sexy.

    • @ajajajaj624
      @ajajajaj624 4 года назад +1

      @@joycesmith3209
      Hi JS i didnt say Bey was like Tina i said in my opinion Bey is right up there with Tina in performance ,class,an beauty

  • @baublesanddolls
    @baublesanddolls Год назад +3

    I can't believe she's gone, however I can't imagine the thought of her being in pain. May she rest peacefully wherever she is. ❤😇💖

  • @helenkanakos7735
    @helenkanakos7735 Год назад +4

    Tina, a smart woman artist who worked hard as a singer.
    She is reunited with, David, Michael, Whitney,Freddie,John, George. They were Simply were the best. We are lucky to still listen to them on the radio.
    May they all RIP.☦️✝️🌹💐💐🌹

  • @wrennewman6868
    @wrennewman6868 Год назад +4

    Tina Turner is the Best! Strong, confident, talented and now at peace. Miss you. Thank you for your music Tina! ♥

  • @junerittmeyer1794
    @junerittmeyer1794 4 года назад +23

    Tina is a lovely, talented lady.

  • @eliakimjosephsophia4542
    @eliakimjosephsophia4542 Год назад +17

    There are so many female singers, many famous black singers too. However, it does require real talent to reach the top and stay there like Tina did. She was huge in Europe. I don't feel the same about the younger generation of female singers, they just don't have the class of people like Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Whitney Houston, Ella Fitzgerald, Shirley Bassey, Dionne Warwick, etc.

    • @Miketendo93
      @Miketendo93 Год назад +5

      Amen 👏👏👏

    • @revolutionishere
      @revolutionishere Год назад +3

      In terms of vocal talent though, Beyonce is sitting with them and I do feel Bey is representing well. I don't say this as a fan of her necessarily, but I respect the hard work and tenacity.

    • @eliakimjosephsophia4542
      @eliakimjosephsophia4542 Год назад +1

      @@revolutionishere They don't do anything for me, I'm a Whitney Houston fan. Although I do like Rebecca Ferguson's unique voice.

    • @tana5098
      @tana5098 Год назад +2

      I would agree. Most of today's singers, including men, bore me to death. The lyrics are not beautiful, and the melody is monotonous. The music industry promotes hip hop and rap, but not alot of real talent. The 60's, 70's, and 80's was much better with regards to creativity and great songs than anything i hear today.

    • @Miketendo93
      @Miketendo93 Год назад +1

      @@tana5098 💯💯💯

  • @AndreMSmith1
    @AndreMSmith1 13 лет назад +26

    I LOVE YOU TINA TURNER YOUR GOD BEST CREACTION,YOUR A BEACON OF LIGHT TO ALL WOMEM....

  • @kslucki
    @kslucki Год назад +6

    This is a jewel. Thank you for sharing.

  • @ervina02
    @ervina02 Год назад +7

    I love you Tina! Thank you for sharing your gift from God! She was soooo Beautiful and intelligent her talking voice was just as exciting as her singing voice. REST IN HEAVENLY PARADISE QUEEN OF ROCK N ROLL TINA TURNER.

  • @joycekellner9957
    @joycekellner9957 Год назад +5

    She is so honest and real.

  • @brianward9928
    @brianward9928 Год назад +4

    What a great interview 🎉🎉
    R.I.P play with the angels my dear

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh Год назад +3

    I wish she had been in more movies. I think she could've done great stuff there too.

  • @marisatucci
    @marisatucci 3 года назад +18

    love you Tina, simply the best!

  • @Nancy22102
    @Nancy22102 Год назад +4

    Simply incredible simply riveting simply courageous simply beautiful Shes simply a Queen shes simply the best TINA TURNER THANK U ROCK GODDESS RIP 🎤🌹💄👠🕊👑🎼🎸🥁🎹🎼🎧🎸❤️

  • @corneliuswhite5139
    @corneliuswhite5139 Год назад +7

    I love her energy in this interview.

  • @vickioster1323
    @vickioster1323 4 года назад +16

    She's beautiful, and has that very sexy voice. She I the BEST, shes a great performer n concert and just plain dwn to earth LADY. Love you Tina.

  • @cynthiaanctil7028
    @cynthiaanctil7028 8 лет назад +22

    WOW!!!!! You Rock Tina...and inspire!!! "Keep on rolling!!! ~Namaste XXX

  • @chrissimpson6701
    @chrissimpson6701 Год назад +6

    She really did love David, and Mick.

  • @finni-h2x
    @finni-h2x Год назад +4

    In July 2023 Birdsville Australia will attempt to break its own record with 5000 ppl doing the Nutbush City Limits in tribute to Tina.❤

  • @maryharper3395
    @maryharper3395 Год назад +4

    What an intelligent and articulate woman she was.

  • @felineth56
    @felineth56 6 лет назад +36

    A Great Woman!

  • @unclealand
    @unclealand 6 лет назад +49

    I seldom got to hear Tina talk so openly and articulately. She's so generous toward other performers, and she does not play the race card or feel sorry for herself.

  • @Dave-hw5df
    @Dave-hw5df Год назад +4

    She had the most amazing smile!

  • @No1More1Mr1Nice1Guy1
    @No1More1Mr1Nice1Guy1 12 лет назад +31

    good interview, very candid

  • @deniselingvall5892
    @deniselingvall5892 Год назад +6

    I saw her on stage.
    Opening for the Rolling Stones

  • @TOPS1971
    @TOPS1971 12 лет назад +17

    I LOVE YOU TINA TURNER XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

  • @nunziopisanelli4723
    @nunziopisanelli4723 11 месяцев назад +3

    She had two fantastic persons as friends: Mick and David!

  • @Kolorboyux1wb
    @Kolorboyux1wb Год назад +6

    TINA WAS BORNED ABSTRACT! SCORPIO! She always knew that she was DIFFERENT! SHE was the FEMALE VERSION OF JAMES BROWN, and wherever they TRAVELED, they LIT UP THE TOWNS!

    • @sandraatkins2539
      @sandraatkins2539 Год назад

      She was Sagittarius.

    • @Kolorboyux1wb
      @Kolorboyux1wb Год назад

      @@sandraatkins2539 Nope! Nov 26, she was born on the cusp! Half SCORPIO/Half SAGITTARIUS!

  • @essyglenn6170
    @essyglenn6170 11 месяцев назад +2

    There will never, ever, EVER be anybody like The world’s beloved TINA! I don’t. Know if there’s anyone who can be as good of a Rocker, look as good being a senior with that kind of Stamina, Power, Talent and Sex appeal as Tina! Tina, you’re will always remain…”SIMPLY THE BEST!”
    The world miss you so! RIP Beautiful Lady! I will always remain your Fan!

  • @nothinghumanlovesfor
    @nothinghumanlovesfor 12 лет назад +22

    what a great interview

  • @bejoyful
    @bejoyful Год назад +6

    Simply the Best, TINA!

  • @naturalmystic251
    @naturalmystic251 Год назад +4

    She danced around that black woman question. Tina played the game

  • @razvantasca
    @razvantasca Год назад +3

    So right, dear Tina Turner! Love !
    🙏🔥❤️🔥🙏💫

  • @warriorcell9418
    @warriorcell9418 Год назад +6

    Very smart intelligent woman. No wonder she was always the one to speak during interviews instead of Ike. Ike knew the power of her , I think this was the reason he tried to keep her down under his wings. He was afraid , he knew she was the star regardless of his musical talent

  • @charlotteconde9039
    @charlotteconde9039 Год назад +5

    Tina Turner +

  • @vincentjerome1386
    @vincentjerome1386 Год назад +4

    Untouchable woman!Eternal legend!!!

  • @z2u
    @z2u 6 лет назад +22

    simply the best is an understatement

  • @parisjackson9310
    @parisjackson9310 Год назад +5

    She was so intelligent and articulate, I could listen to her wisdom for hours.

  • @scottyh8494
    @scottyh8494 Год назад +2

    She was such a smart lady. Very knowledgeable.

  • @phillipbasile8987
    @phillipbasile8987 2 года назад +5

    Great interview. Thanks for posting.

  • @karlatkinson4397
    @karlatkinson4397 Год назад +2

    A superstar and a survivor. A despite her past a beautiful person.

  • @juliemorrison3746
    @juliemorrison3746 Год назад +3

    Love this interview so much ❤️RIP Tina

  • @StefanGBucher
    @StefanGBucher Год назад +3

    Fantastic interview, REALLY interesting freeze frame choices.

  • @lonniebaines1720
    @lonniebaines1720 Год назад +5

    TINA...THE QUEEN

  • @privateconfidential4775
    @privateconfidential4775 Год назад +2

    Free speech I finally recognize how beautiful physically Tina was from watching hidden clip now but back in 84 she seemed like yet another untouchable pop Barbie figurehead of the music industry along w cyndi Lauper etc and the music industry overshadowed the human beings behind it: bottom line: I just wasn’t getting enough I guess it’s my life’s regret and will be proven to be so I tell you

  • @roadie3124
    @roadie3124 Год назад +2

    Wow!

  • @legends3and8
    @legends3and8 Год назад +1

    I always wished her happiness, and I truly think that she found hers. She was as beautiful on the inside as the outside.

  • @toma-2807
    @toma-2807 Год назад +3

    Любимая рок-певица!
    Очень жаль!😢

  • @paulbraga5447
    @paulbraga5447 Год назад +3

    She is beautiful

  • @marywookey8960
    @marywookey8960 Год назад +4

    R.I.P.MY QUEEN😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔

  • @revkenwiz
    @revkenwiz Год назад +4

    I Wish Tina & Aretha Franklin & Janice Joplin would have sang together, peace & love

    • @revolutionishere
      @revolutionishere Год назад +1

      That would have been a marvel and probably the most dynamic collaboration ever if it were to have happened. They all bring a lot of different things to the table. I will say Tina is in the middle, Aretha has the clearest tone but a lot of soul, Janis has that raspy, sultry sound to her and Tina ties the two together. Her voice is more solid than Janis but more gritty than Aretha. That's why I love me some Tina, she does it all.

  • @edwardjones2202
    @edwardjones2202 Год назад +2

    I love her speaking voice

  • @winnielai7455
    @winnielai7455 Год назад +4

    A remarkable woman! RIP Tina

  • @marvalstith2749
    @marvalstith2749 Год назад +2

    Watch this! Tina TALKING…telling good stuff. She’s beautiful and brilliant in so many ways.

  • @JugglinJellyTake01
    @JugglinJellyTake01 Год назад +1

    This is a great, reflective, down to earth interview.

  • @debraphillips8921
    @debraphillips8921 Год назад +2

    What a phenomenal blessing for the two of them..

  • @emilywalker3352
    @emilywalker3352 5 лет назад +11

    Love her

  • @PthaloGreen2
    @PthaloGreen2 Год назад

    So authentic and candid. Beautiful!

  • @collettebadgley4102
    @collettebadgley4102 6 лет назад +26

    Tina & David 🔥❤️😏🛌😛😈

  • @superamanda
    @superamanda Год назад +3

    THE QUEEN OF ROCK N ROLL !

  • @thebablreelofficial
    @thebablreelofficial Год назад +2

    That is so honest.

  • @08CARIB
    @08CARIB 6 лет назад +10

    1:28 David

  • @Shamanicjourney7
    @Shamanicjourney7 Год назад +2

    Thank you

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh Год назад +3

    I just can't believe SHE was made nervous by performing with the Rolling Stones! They should've been nervous to be with her.