Collecting Addicts Episode 58: Sainz Wins In Oz, EV Classics & Bentley Boss Goes To Aston Martin
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Massive Formua One news, Max Verstappen didn’t win a race! The big question is, has Ferrari cut the wrong driver after Sainz took home the win in the down-under Grand Prix?
In other news, British luxury and supercar manufacturers have been experiencing some major changes, but are there great things on the horizon, or is this yet another reshuffling of debt and talent within an ageing industry?
Our five professionally unprofessional Addicts discuss these points and more, in Episode 58 of the Collecting Addicts podcast.
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(00:00) Intro
(00:54) Lunaz EV conversion stops business
(17:27) Formula 1
(35:37) New UK motorway
(46:35) Bentley boss goes to Aston Martin
(58:36) Favourite film on RUclips
(01:06:28) 2 car garage
(01:13:10) Driving Tunes
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About Collecting Addicts Podcast:
Collecting Addicts is one of the leading automotive podcast hosted by Chris Harris along with fellow addicts Edward Lovett, Manish Pandey, Neil Clifford and Chris Cooper.
This eclectic bunch of car addicts gather online weekly to discuss all things automotive, from the minutiae of best gloveboxes to the latest happenings in top-tier motorsport.
They answer burning questions from listeners, debate the best and worst from the car world over the decades, and make time for regular features including ‘Two Car Garage’ and ‘Driving Tunes’.
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All right, we're 58 episodes deep into this podcast. I have listened to all of them, and noticed, that you didn't talk about one extremely important topic; center console/armrests. What is good about them, what's bad, and why the hollow and floating ones always look and feel like cheap crap?
I like my current car’s Solution. It’s not a center console, it’s just a portion of a continuous wraparound cockpit. My new Corvette is entirely driver focused. That is how the car should be. The passenger side is set up in such a way that encourages them to just keep their hands clasped in their lap and not fidgeting with anything that’s going to distract me.
@@NewCastleIndianaThat Corvette's wraparound piece is a beautiful solution. Speaking about the floating ones I had in mind the 2023 electric Renault Megane, which I have been using at work for some time, but certainly, some other cars have a similar shape of center console. It seems to be an issue with more vertical space in crossovers and SUVs (which I'm skeptical about). The DBX has a hollow space which is, to me, aesthetically barely acceptable, but DB12, on the other hand, has a small shelf in the same place and it's fine - looks purposeful, not like a space that designers had no idea how to make use of.
Really wanna see the boys discuss this one
When they interfere with the handbrake 🤦🏻♂️
My favourite moment is when Mr Clifford agrees with a fellow addict and raises his finger but doesn’t say anything! Fantastic pod TY chaps.
Thanks for giving me a thumbs up on the M4 Chris, I was incredibly nervous heading to a job interview, you made my day!
Glad to see the M5 is still firing on all 10-cylinders.
"Sled Driver: Flying the World's Fastest Jet" by Brian Shul Thank you Neil, inspirational without question. This should be on the national curriculum to inspire young people today. You guys mentioned Brand Beckham in Episode 58 with what meaning in life and what guidance. Brian Shul sets the bar where Brand Beckham must be flying a Mig!
59:02 Thank you Neil for introducing Brian Shul. Always been fascinated by the SR-71, I had never crossed paths with the OG Sled driver before.
Brian’s speech goes much deeper than just the coolest plane ever made - what a down-to-earth and courageous man he was with an appreciation for a life well-lived.
To me Neil’s recommendation here speaks also of him and it reminds of his stated admiration of the American values, as well as his occasional recollections of the decent people he has met on his journeys, such as in Australia.
So thanks again for a stellar episode, and thank you Neil for being the stand-up guy you are!
I totally agree with Mr. Cooper on the Logan Sargant and Albon deal. You stuff the car you pay the consequence. Send the wrong message to the drivers. Spot on Chris.
It is 100% correct. But willians needs as much points as they can get so i think is the reason for the desigion.
More "youtube film" segments please, so much good stuff out there that needs to be shared. Could replace the "driving tunes" segment...😉
Agree. Where are the links? I cannot find them.
It's a lonnnng scroll but you will find them@@JB-xd9dr
Another request here for those YT links please!
Ok, let me attempt to be of service:
ruclips.net/video/hFJMs15sVSY/видео.html - Sled Driver
ruclips.net/video/gpqEReJ69II/видео.html - Michael Fassbender: Road to Le Mans (Porsche Playlist)
ruclips.net/video/VRnxprcDMDM/видео.html - Tuthill 911 SHAKEDOWN
ruclips.net/video/sXqbWCaVFy0/видео.html - McRae 2001 St Gwynno
ruclips.net/video/o-X4KxP-YWk/видео.html - Nicky Grist talks through the St Gwynno onboard
Couldn't find the right Fezza 456 movie, there was one at the 23 minute length Manish mentions but it didn't fit the rest of his description, but I'll link it here anyway:
ruclips.net/video/cmzFHfGhysE/видео.html
@@mikeb187 you’re a star! Thx. Mike
Road to Le Mans is raw, real. Richard Lietz along with Zacharie Robichon and Matt Campbell are incredible sports men. Richard was incredible
Best thing (that I can remember!) on YT are *any* IOM TT videos, all onboards from Group C, offshore powerboat racing, Climb Dance (always), but the ultimate raw madness is the onboard of the F40 LM with Jacques Lafitte.
That intro is quickly becoming ICONIC!
Favourite YT video was CH’s Lister drive at Goodwood. The noise when all the cars took off. That video really got me as was to me the turning point in RUclips content and how it could be a proper source of decent content. Not just tools with their phone camera going bad covers of songs and awful one takes of their own stuff 🤪
Sled Driver is a fabulous book and video on RUclips. I’ve been lucky to see the SR-71 fly a few times at Mildenhall and Fairford and have some pictures I took I’ll always treasure. Keep up the good work too guys 👍
Loving this group more and more, it’s the highlight of my listening (normally the podcast) week. The emotion of the subject that the guys convey is just perfect. This week’s YT recommendations are spot on, from Ed’s pick of the 911s being flogged by Tuthill to Neil’s Sled Driver, it’s just sublime. Would appreciate having more of those in future episodes.
Edward was on rare form this episode! Great inputs - also wondered all episode what Chris was on until the whisky was mentioned 😁
Great episode once again Gents
Edward is always really good, he's just in the company of some real artists of articulation. I commend him on being on the podcast without fail given how much work he puts into CC. CH sometimes being bossy with him definitely gives out a wrong vibe about both CH and his relationship with Edward in my opinion.
Absolutely love this podcast! I especially like when F1 is discussed! Please add more F1 talk! Thank you
Neil at Aston would be amazing. A real petrol head that would love to see the brand succeed. I do think AM are going in the right direction but they’ve got ahead of themselves with the pricing of the Vantage and DB12. Hopefully this new CEO bloke won’t kill AM racing, it’s the only thing providing legitimacy to the brand still as a real sports car manufacturer etc
Stroll would not let that happen. And AMR, at least for F1, is a completely separate operation.
Love spending my Friday evenings with you guys, keep them coming!
Great episode, loved the AM/Mclaren chat, very interesting and agree with Chris Harris, let’s celebrate British built sports cars 🏎️🏁
Looking forward to hearing Neils response on the McRae in car next week. Absolute Magic.
RIP Sled Driver. What an amazing human who flew one of our most beautiful creations❤ Superb video Neil👍
Bravo on 58 episodes. You accompany me on my commute and make it very enjoyable. Re music I think a number of you would love The War On Drugs. Great driving music.
Finally, early release of the video! Thanks!
Road to Lemans i yelled at the screen and there it is! Best of youtube!
Sled Driver, Neil nails it.👍🙏
Really enjoyed that episode. Nothing stands out as to why, but it made me laugh, smile and just feel good. These particular blokes chatting cars just works.
Another fantastic episode! Can't wait for each Friday to watch it! Thank you 😀🤟
How can you talk about converting classic/historic cars to electric without mentioning Electric Classic Cars in Wales? Do you know, due to the UK regulations, how difficult it is to convert an "historic" car to electric and for it to remain registered as Historic? You can't drill one extra hole or change the car in any way. We are not talking about whether you should or not, that's a matter for the individual. You need to get someone who is in the EV space.
Love you channel. It's regular Friday evening viewing for me and my wife with a gin n tonic in hand.
Sled Driver is absolutely superb. Missed a chat From Brian Schul at The American Air Museum Duxford a while back. Gutted. Used to see the SR-71 at RAF Mildenhall in the 80s. Incredible machine. He died last year, massive shame. Agree 100% with Neil.
What a shout Sled Driver is. Thanks, Neil.
Enjoyed the show thanks guys👍
Neil, that Brian Shul, Sled Driver, video, the SR71 pilot, is AMAZING. Thanks for alerting me to it. I have a new hero. 😊
Good Friday Night. Good viewing. Makes the weekend perfect.
Loved this, thanks guys
I think this is my favourite podcast thing.
Great as always chaps - have a great Easter weekend all.
The youtube video favorite was one of my favorite segments in a while from the crew. It really shows where our true passion resides. Funny enough I have all of thesw on my personal favorites and loved hearing your thoughts on these. I would recommend the Kidston Productions films. The film named Coming Home about the Alfa TZ2 always brings a tear to my eye and happiness in my heart
I have enormous respect for Adrian Hallmark, who has been successful in every brand that he has been associated with.
Bentley has made a lot of money under Adrian's pilotage, nut least through the Mulliner programme, which is a master stroke.
Good luck to him at Aston Martin....tough gig, but he wont be walking into this with closed eyes.
I just watched the Brian Shul Sled Driver video at Livermore. Wow. Just.... Wow! Thank you Neil.
Chris H's Nicky Grist interview is the best interview I have ever heard. Chris is smart enough to just nudge him along but basically keep out of his way. Extraordinary!
LUNAZ... the reverse Mansory effect. How to devalue an icon in one easy step.
Neil absolutely smashing that 2 car garage!
Great episode, I looked up and watched the Sled Driver video, very motivational and facinating film, only wish I could afford the book
Neil, thanks for the Brian Shul recommendation. Just watched it. Absolutely inspirational. Realised I needed to get back to some things. This has given me the kick in the @$$ I needed.
On a Car note, I purchased my first new car in 36 years a few days ago - a Hyundai i20n in Performance Blue. Had to get one before the ICE version vanishes from the showrooms forever. Looking forward to picking it up on Thursday. Bring it on! 🤘
Just watched the Brian Shul video! Amazing!
Love this 😊
Watched Saintz at the Spanish GP in 2015 and remember thinking what an amazing driver.
2 Car Garage:
You need 2 cars at your South of France condo, which you visit a few times a year. You let family and close friends use the house and they are allowed to use both cars. One car will be used for the grocery shopping and the occasional outing/dinner, the second one will be a more sporty convertible you can pick for your solo run to get the croissants. No budget, as you wouldn't let your mum or non-car minded friends drive a Monza SP2 for example.
Yessss. More youtube recommendations please
Still my favorite podcast on the best day of the week. Thanks as always. Question: tyre to fender gap on modern (or older) cars. It's awful. No car from the factory, minus maybe a 992, sits proper. The tyre to fender gap is atrocious. Why?
CH picking an E82 chassis made my day. Totally agree with diff change 3.73, but I did it on a 128i NA spec manual. What a playful chassis with M suspension bits and appropriate chamber adjustments to make it sharp front and slippy rear with sq tire setup.
Best wishes to everyone at Lunaz EV who lost their job. Hoping everyone lands on their feet and the future is better. Enjoyed the podcast.
Bloody love these
Not sure if you have covered this yet, but what about favourite gear knob? Also as a driving tune, Shine by Collective Soul. Great podcast, you guys helped me through chemotherapy last year. Many thanks.
Where are the links to the RUclips videos mentioned in the video and promised would be in the comments below?????????
Bang on about the McRae St Gwynno onboard. The single most impressive piece of driving I have ever seen. I was in the stage that day with a friend who had never been to a rally before and he literally jumped back when Colin approached, he couldn’t believe what he had just seen.
Agree about the older circuits - I wonder if they are good because they are old and established, or are they just good? I think Saudi Arabia is a good circuit and that’s relatively new…
It’s a good circuit, it’s just horrible to follow via TV. Every corner/straight looks far too similar.
Just watched ‘Heroes’ Manish Pandey what a beautiful film, thank you so much . The detail is unprecedented, i was totally submersed in the movie, what a treat. 😊
Thank you. We didn't get the PR we needed but I'm very proud of it!
Watched sled...he is great....recommended to lots of people
I daily’d a chipped 123d coupe for a year or so. 265bhp (RR proved!) and 50+ mpg. 6 speed manual. Found a way to spend an extra 10 miles on the back roads that got me to work at the same time. I miss it. Sadly my ‘smart’ work didn’t look kindly on the straight through exhaust which had a wonderful asbo toned cold start… underground car park bliss.
Any chance you could share the links for the favourite film section?
Favorite RUclips video should be a regular
The Newport Tunnel - I met her once!!!!! 😂
Little late to the party however, Alonso early breaking and the reference to Moss, interesting. I recall an interview with Sir Stirling when he explained that in a 24 hour race back in the day Sir Stirling turned off his brake lights as the following car was tailing him through the corners.
Is this the Grazia edition? Wasn’t expecting the guys to be so knowledgeable about celeb weddings.
Hey guys have listened to every episode and appreciated the youtube recommendations. Could you please do in addition or in replacement of the song of the week, a youtube video of the week? And, if it's not too much of an administrative burden, place the links in the description as you've done this week? That'd be great!
Watched today on RUclips "Sled driver" it was brilliant thank you Neil
We need to see a segment on the best getaway cars! Lotus Carlton would be my choice
My new motorway/ tunnel would be between Sheffield and Manchester.
3500 miles London to New York, that’s 50 hours at 70mph, no thanks Edward, I’ll just fly 🤣
I just got rid of an MX 5 red on black power retractable hardtop 2007 in perfect condition that had 9000 miles on it last year. I got my new Corvette. But I love that Miata as well.
Soundgarden “Badmotorfinger” for music.
Two car car garage: No budget, two bmw engines cars. Could be beemers or or do you want to go Morgan Aero 8 or Mac F1.
As for everything else, as Neil would say “ Bollocks to the rest of it”
Nice one boys! Keep up the good shizzle.
P.s Don’t hate on E64’s, Cooper has excellent taste!
Dig a tunnel under the Peak District and connect the M67 to the M1.
Road to lemans is epic!
RUclips video suggestion. Leh keen, rain dance, driving in the rain at the VLN before a massive red flag due to poor weather
Does anyone know the exact clip Chris mentions? Winnow stage?
Edison motors in Canada are doing it the right way with building a hybrid diesel truck. They've started in a shed, quite literally and look to be doing really well.
Have a look at Arrival. An electric van company that was biggest UK company launch on NASDAQ at the time raising $660m and just gone into administration. Had a factory at Bicester.
Does anyone have the link to the Ferrari 456 that Manish mentions? Can't seem to find it on youtube
ruclips.net/video/wzCP5UlsZHI/видео.html
I really do expect better of you all. The Beckham wedding car is an XK140 not an E Type and Tesla’s IPO was $17 back in 2010 and although the stock is way down from it’s highs, it’s still standing at $175 which isn’t a bad return…….and just watch out, it’s about to take off again. So, please……check your facts eh!
Quite simply the most entertained I’ve been all week. Happy Easter boys 🫶🏼🚗
The best pod on the planet.
They were called lunaz, which is quite correct the cars were lunaz-e, completely!
To give a northern perspective on new motorways Manchester to Lincoln via Sheffield and Carlisle to Newcastle would be my pick
Morning all.
I agree with Neil on this with regards to Lunaz, who exactly were they appealing to? Car folk who have the fortunate position to buy a either a sports car or a classic sports car, buy them because of the engine, the sound etc which EV's don't provide. It was a doomed from the start when the target market simply went "Meh".
I think they are focusing on it's failure because it's an EV start up, not it's poor business decisions on their own. LEVC TX have passed 15,000 black cabs. I don't think the idea of hybrid or electric inner city vehicles stops with Lunaz. If you compare TVR that had 250 deposits and government support, it has failed not because they were not EV. But bad business expansion.
More Chris Harris ‘Guenther’ impressions please! 😂
The motorway we need is extending the A329(M) so you don't have to go across all the roundabouts of Bracknell to get from the M4 to the M3 and M25
I kind of understood the appeal of those classic ev conversions (low maintenance modern convienience) but at the same time the appeal of those classics are the looks and power train combination of them.
He said you’re gonna put the links to the RUclips movies here. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t see them.
2024 Toyota Land Cruiser 2.8D. What do you think Mr. Harris? I was very impressed with/ TG review. Could your pod have a section on work horses? Couple of your mates are diehard Land Rover. 11mil Land Cruiser sold over 170 countries says it all. What do you think if you had to have 1 for every possible task, what’s your pick.
Gents is there an official playlist with all the music recommendations?
Spotify driving tunes
@@edwardlovett9288thank you you sir.
Episode: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
My mate would be having words about owning a Shed 4 🤣 make sense but cost significantly more than £1k to fix haha
As an aussie yes Melbourne has infrastructure and far too many cameras! Sydney and London might be on par for infrastructure incompetancy. Lucky for us collecting addicts is well oiled machine!!
Tesla a fraction of IPO? Really?
I'm a zealous hater for their fails, but that doesn't seem right. There's been stock splits, right?
Why would you electrify a classic Aston? Who would want one?
“Who would want one?”
It dosent take a genius to notice that many people just like cars for the fashion statement/expression of wealth.
So removing all of the elements which might bother them (the maintenance associated with ice cars) is what a lot of rich folks want.
It’s fine to not like the process (I despise it) but don’t pretend to not understand the motives of those who do want to turn their classic motor into a glorified gold kart.
@harrismonkey Best vid of 2023 is your Tuthill 911 vid. Tops!
14:03 "Tesla, Rivian, Lucid. All of their shares are a fraction of what they IPO'd at" - Rivian are well down on their IPO price (about 1/12th of where they started), and Tesla might be 1/2 what they *peaked* at, but today they are trading at 130x what they IPO'd at. I suppose 130/1 is a kind of fraction.
Sled Driver now over £300 for the book
It sounds like reinventing the wheel or the engine
English people tell directions in motorway titles and junction numbers, Scottish people describe physical locations as we actually have some countryside features to look at