Collecting Addicts Episode 59: Steelies Better Than Alloys, Sleeping in Cars, & Steiner's Stardom
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Should failure be celebrated in Formula 1? This week, Manish and the Addicts share their thoughts on Guenther Steiner’s rise to fame, despite Haas’ repeat appearances at the bottom of the Constructors’ Championship leaderboard.
They’ll also be discussing the ups and downs (mostly downs) of sleeping in cars, and covering the all-important topic of steel wheels - when are they fit for purpose, and when are they just being offered to cash in on that poverty-spec charm?
All of these topics and more, debated on episode 59 of the Collecting Addicts podcast!
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(00:00) Intro
(00:57) Mechanical aid fitted to a car
(13:49) Steel wheels are better than alloys
(22:39) This week in cars
(44:36) Sleeping in cars
(55:39) Guenther Steiner is the Eddie the Eagle of F1
(1:08:50) Two car garage
(1:22:26) Driving Tunes
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About Collecting Addicts Podcast:
Collecting Addicts is one of the leading automotive podcast hosted by Chris Harris along with fellow addicts Edward Lovett, Manish Pandey, Neil Clifford and Chris Cooper.
This eclectic bunch of car addicts gather online weekly to discuss all things automotive, from the minutiae of best gloveboxes to the latest happenings in top-tier motorsport.
They answer burning questions from listeners, debate the best and worst from the car world over the decades, and make time for regular features including ‘Two Car Garage’ and ‘Driving Tunes’.
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Manish's journey lusting after the 456 is simply amazing
I'm so happy and also sad it may be ending soon
Loving the new, earlier release time. Thanks for the show.
I really hope Manish gets this 456. I am an admirer of these cars too. Was very tempted once but rather boringly paid a lump off the mortgage instead.
Sleeping in cars: A 1980s Fiat Panda. The back seat was just a couple of poles with a piece of cloth between them suspended in the back. Unhook the back seat and lay it down to sleep on. So many times, when I was a student, I went out to the pub and had a skin full and slept in that car in the college car park.
Hoovies garage is gonna sale his manual one. That would be a good candidate for Manish
i was a homeless teenager in the 80's, cars left open were my hotels :) from memory an Austin Maxi was quite roomy and a Hillman Imp was awful :)
Sleeping in Cars. In '70 my girlfriend and I drove from Southville Bristol to St Ives Cornwall. In my Austin Healey Sprite mk2. Pre motorways in the SW, we "slept" somewhere in Devon and definitely never again. However in 2 weeks my GF will be my wife of 50 years, so she wasn't put off (me)...
a perfect test for a wife imo lol
It was lovely to hear the tone lower at the two car garage...😂
Hydraulic built in jacks was quite common on premium 1920's/30's cars.
Rolls Royce Phantom 111 for example.
Agree on the topic of steel vs alloy wheels....given the current manufacturer obsession with weight saving to reduce co2 rating....unlikely to happen.
Sorry to be a pedant Neil, but the sale of former Bristol assets, was at the iconic BOC building in Windlesham, (designed to resemble an Oxygen molecule), NOT at Bristol's factory. This building and its grounds now belong to GMA who have built the new factory in the grounds nearer the motorway.
Harris, you got the lady car thing 100%. Everyone else a little bit miles away from what a modern 50-year-old woman is after. Well done! As a 50-year-old woman who likes to drive and look sensual at the same time, the classic has to be Italian, no other possibility, although the Z8 is a very good option...
Loved this week's guest episode with the Man from Delmonte covering for Neil Clifford 👍
Thought it was the professor character from jurassic Park at first 😂
2 Car garage!
it's summer of 1987, and you live in Miami, and life is good. You are running a successful business importing flour from South America. Business is so good that money is not a concern, however space is. You only have room for 2 cars. One must be able to carry 3 of your business associates and the relevant equipment needed in the flour selling business. The other car must be something rare, something exotic, something that won't be outshined by anything when you park in front of the nightclub. Both cars should have a correct image for a successful flour importer and distributor.
Love the podcast, a nice little Friday treat!
lol@successful flour importer and distributor. a take on the white powder kingpin i suppose
The speed rule in Australia is 3% over, that is fine and dandy but when they introduced that rule, the Australian standard for accuracy for speedos was 5%...
Massachusetts is 20%. I can't imagine getting pulled over for doing 75 in a 65 or 30 in a 25. It would just never happen. Though our speed limits are much lower than the UK, for example.
@@alechall7082 alloy wheel anyday
@@alechall7082 It's dumb because you can get done for speeding when overtaking. The only funny thing about it is I have it on good authority when they changed the fix speed cameras to 3% over in one place, a hell of a lot of cop cars got busted.
The race car air jack system was the first thing I thought of too. Pain in the ass trying to find the strength point to put jack under, or even fit a regular jack under the car to do the simplest thing.
we should use airbags and mini compressor it feels
Probably your best podcast yet. Well done.
So happy you picked my 2 cars garage! on to the next! enjoyed it loads!
Great subjects as always. Chris Cooper. Your Olivia Rodrigo choice was fab. The video is interesting. Her Carly Simon cover is superb. She makes you believe she’s actually been slighted.
Chris. You describe so well finding the right position to sleep in a car! Brilliant :)
I am so happy that Manish has found his Lola!
its a boy! haha
@@PazLeBon Lola by the Kinks?!??? But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man and so is Lola
Chris needs to do a video on it with Manish at some point.
@@drewwrobel564 no lol that lola deffo a fella, likethe car hahhahaha
Manish you get it! Excellent choice of The Rainbow by Talk Talk. Big love.
Great one gents, thanks.
Love Harris' social commentary in the first segment 👍🏻
Edwards two car garage monologue had me absolutely wetting myself!
What a nice way to wake up
Neil with a couple of unappreciated all timers in this... 'Fred again' killed me off.
Also, snazzy hat and cutlers as always Mr Clifford. The man is a style icon.
Listening to this while waiting for my friend to arrive with a tow rope because my NB MX-5 has sprung a sudden coolant leak on my way to work. Lovely
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... at least be cheap as chips to repair the little devil
Bring on the 456 Manish! I can't wait to hear more about it 👏
Missed out the best steel wheels - Lotus Elan S2 with chrome hub cap, or later models with knock offs
Love the Breitling Emergency Mr Clifford !
Shit huge watch
You guys crack me up every time! keep the nonsense coming!
Manish - your car choices were gorgeous
Best of luck with the car purchase Manish. I hope this starts a fantastic journey of Ferarri ownership for you and plenty of driving stories to come on the pod.
Agree with Manish,I tried to read Gunther Steiner’s book and in the end gave up!
Happy Friday! And Horizon by Artbat. Absolute banger 👏
Neil has gone Thomas Crown Affair style this week.
Park Lane used to be 40mph limit going up and 30mph going down, until 2020.
Brilliant!
I love Cruise Control! The adaptive one is the best. I just sit and let it do its thing on the long drives up the Hume Hwy. Mind you, I love playing the No Breaking game with the old cruise control, just see how long you'd be able to travel without having to touch the break and turn it off.
ive owned my old bmw foryearrrrs and always been scared to use the cruise control incase it breaks something :/
I've lived in Cornwall my whole life, I've belonged to several car clubs for decades and actively search out car events to go to and I haven't ever heard of the Lands End Trial! I really wish car groups would actually advertise things! 🤷♂🤪...............Also thanks for another fantastic episode! 👌😁
Edward's 2-car Garage presso was fantastic 😂
I once owned a 1994 Buick Park Avenue and the drivers seat was ideal for napping, would fold nearly flat.
"Cruise -control on an old shitter", is spot-on. Driving an awful lot as I do in old motors and modern's in town and on the motorway, CC has saved my license, my livelihood and my sanity.
I’m from Australia and have slept in cars on many an interstate road trip but I distinctly remember sleeping in an rental Escort van touring England and Scotland in 1997 for 2 weeks and also in my own 80 pound Vauxhall Cavalier Sri in the same year. Loved that car
dude, if it aint cold n wet it dont count :)
Button butler voiced by Chris Harris made my morning 👏🏻
Spirit Of Eden really is one of, if not the best album ever in my opinion. Manish!
@ManishPandey top music choice 👍
Congrats Manish 😁
I love a micro nap in my car! 15-20 minutes early afternoon a couple of times a week. Brilliant reboot. Been doing it for decades
lol so thats 40,000 hours sleeping in a car , too funny :)
Chris H, I don't know why you are giving Edward a hard time while he sets the scene for the Cote d'Azure scenario....the last thing us subscribers need is for this podcast to be PC!
How about a mint condition M-B 280-3.5 SE Cab, Navy Blue with cream hide for our middle aged Boulevard cruiser
pc is what we make it imo
Give Edward a brake...
He's a
Man of the people 😂😂😂😂
I thought pc was a computer...?
@@harvinmahal thats just silly, obviously a police constable
Love the R2D2 joke. Clever and quick.
Two car garage intro was quite a positive change from the usual, it very quickly made me realise why the usual is the usual 😅
Big supporter of the micro nap. Do it often. Quick tip. With an iPhone, just hold down the Siri button and say how long you want to nap and it sets the timer. Just so much simpler than having to go via the actual times/alarm settings etc
it usually takes me about 4hours to fall asleep even when knackered
Cote d’Azure cars - Aston Martin Rapide AMR for the commute / Mercedes SLR McLaren Convertible for cruising the Boulevards
Yr 2000'ish .... Myself and a security guard had great fun trying to get a pigeon out of Bristol Cars , Concorde Road , Patchway one Sunday afternoon .. It was setting the alarm off .. 1st time i'd ever seen Dodge Viper there on the ramps to ! .. really old school place.. . 'Gert lush' as us Bristolians say .
RE Sleeping in a car: Did you know that in a Honda Element and the mid-80’s Civic station wagon, if you take the front headrests off, the seats recline flat to line up perfectly with the rear seats, and the rear seat backs recline to make a nice bed. Slept a few nights on camping trips when the weather was shit.
I love cruse control as well helps with long motor way journeys
Edward's two car garage was epic! 😂😂😂😂
Last time I slept overnight in my car was at the Nurburgring. Drove 4h from Belgium to attend the Collecting Cars cars and coffee. Drove there the evening before so I’d be on time. Took my brother along.
The morning I looked through my mails to see were the event would take place, to then find an email in my spam that said the event was annulled 😂. Went to the bike races instead, luckily great weather…. Ended up with a sunstroke 🙈.
But still a great weekend and way less horrible than the story of Mannish.
Neil saying it was Fred Again who Edward was taking a call from made me giggle.
Starting to daydream - Steels on a McLaren F1, Nissan GT-R, Ferrari F40, Lamborghini Countach, Rolls Royce Phantom
Brilliant
Been listening since the beginning and love every episode but would the 60th episode be a good time to tax deduct some local recording mics?
CH gets the two-car garage wrong. How could the lady want to be seen in a soccer mom's car? Although it's a great colour combo, it's still wrong too utility. Also, she already had a Range Rover, presumably an SV with 575hp V8. So DB12 is the correct call, DB12 + Blower Bentley. Where do I sign up?
Another great episode. you always make my day , when are you adding some Moto GP talk 😊😅. Gunther is working more now that he is not team principle 😂😂😂
SL 300 wheels are amazing too
105 series Alfas, have these also
13.40 manesh face when everyone talking about bean flicking
Original Dunlop steel wheels, or those Alfaholics steels. Love them both.
I was on a speed awareness course recently and I brought up that 22mph in London would get you points and a fine as it is 10% over the speed limit. I drive in London in second gear. If I put it into 3rd before you know it you are doing 26-28mph. Is that a ban ?
I'm actually really surprised that Chris hasn't visited a Barber in 20 odd years.
You are looking very sharp indeed.
You know as a fellow hairy bloke, living in a warm climate in Kenya, I visit the barber weekly for a beard trim and monthly for a haircut.
Next time on your travels try an Indian head massage.
It's not a naughty thing.
Absolutely loved this episode! Like all the ones that came before, but just a little more. It was a notch more sexy. Neil's Panama hat is to blame!
I recommend TM ( transcendental meditation) to all. 20 minutes regular meditation can have an extraordinary impact. Same effect 5 hours sleep
2:17 cruise control. Invented by the BLIND engineer, Dr. Teetor in Hagerstown, Indiana near where I grew up.
Coincidentally last night was the movie premiere in Hagerstown, Indiana of the movie documentary about him. One of the guys that works for me went to it.
One of the red race cars that I see at Goodwood has a black oval decal fixed to the side for perfect circle piston rings. That was the company that he founded. A lot of my family, including myself work there.
LOTS of old cars had mechanical cruise control i.e. ”Hand-throttle” My dad’s Fiat 125S’s too.
overdrive switch my my v old dolomite sprint, i was playing with it when hit a roundabout at 80mph :/
@@PazLeBon 5 speed in the Fiat 125S 😎
Guenther is no hero for me but he fulfilled his role realistically as he continually found the funds to keep a budget team in Formula 1 - Gene Hass did not take the same bankrolling approach as Stroll.
indeed the opposite
Them vauxhall steelies were also on some sxi and sri nova’s got some somewhere.
I do prefer the turbine alloy wheels that came on the GTE though
Do you think the BMW 550e will be the basis of the firstBMW Alpina?
Steel wheels - Voxorl/Opel Polish drifter spec 5 spoke ?16”s? from Insignias and Zafiras etc are far better than most of their alloy wheels.
well done Manish, you somehow also managed to get it out
One of the "benefits" of driving an EV, is on a long run having to sit for 30-60 mins or something, and being able to have a wee nap. One of reasons I have the tech pack on my Ioniq 5, with the fully reclining seats. Glorious.
When Dr Manish gets his 456 can we have an episode with the 5 of you sat in it. Yes I know it’s a 4 seater, but I’m sure you could make it work.
can stick monkey in the glovebox
Classic convertible!?! Tolman edition 205 Gti Cabriolet! To get down to the south of France - Original Audi RS2 Avant. A perfect pair!
55:39 Haas is currently in front of Williams, Sauber(Kick) and Renault(Alpine). In 2018 they finnished 5th. and if it hadn't been for the catastrophic first race in Melbourne that saw both cars leave the pit with loose wheels - forcing both cars to DNF. And Grosjeans shenaningans, they would have ended 4th. Best-of-the-rest.
I remember when Magnussen switched from Renault to Haas in 2017. A Danish journalist had asked the other teams about Guenther Steiner. Apparently he was seeen as a bit of a clown.
I think Guenther should be respected for establishing Haas F1 Racing, more than running Haas F1 Racing. Komatsu seems to be a better team leader but I don't think he would be able to create a new F1 team like Guenther did. Yes Haas is composed of mainly Ferrari bits. While this may not be a good thing on its own. I certaintly commend Guenther for finding a loophole in the regulations and running with it.
"saw both cars leave the pit with loose wheels - forcing both cars to DNF." lolololololol
Yes and that incident gave the win to Vettel.
I love a good nap. It could be at home, in a car, on a plane, etc.
well done Edward, you managed to get it out
Steel wheels look great - until they start to rust. The steelies on my old RAV4 looked fab until they started rusting at the edges. And once the rust started, there was no stopping it! I have a fear that the wonderful white steelies on the new Defenders will look a bit grotty in a few years time…
should be cheap to replace tho
timely. just driven to Algarve solo via Caen ferry. hadn’t booked hotel then of course couldn’t find one where i would trust leaving 4 cycles on back of car. so 2x overnight sleeps for an hour or so. all good but now rather wiffy
Does anyone listen to the music bit at the end?
No, that's when l end the video feed.
Me
It's 2004, and you get invited to the Autocar Sideways Challenge - you have to take one modern car (1995- 2004) and one 1975 or older. What are you taking?
Having time with little Chris 😅
I near bloody died crying with laughter listening to Neil Clifford's Bullshit description of a Micro Nap.
Sorry Neil you're wrong because once you go bald or grey it's called a Grandpa Nap mate!!!
Gordon's alfaholic is a Zagato Junior
Triumph GT6 Mk III steels. Perfect
It’s around 5mph above the speed limit… for the cameras
I am imagining James Bond, where he has extremely clever system in the car to stop the world's leading lunatic, but instead he uses the function for just the smallest of convenience when parking the car and never for anything else. That would be very pleasing and amusing.
Built in air jacks.
I thought I saw the Sausage at Motor Racing medics the other day. I see all sorts of scruffs coming and going for their race medicals (Chris Harris included). As I am opposite them on that business park.
I love how Chris is embarrassed by Edwards innuendo. And then minutes later Chris says "tits" haha
I must caveat this with confirmation that I hav been subscribed since day one and am an avid petrolhead but you’d be doing me (and her) a great service if you could reply with the name of the Manish’s recommended cosmetic surgeon as I can’t make it out from the dialogue 😂
Sincerely 🙏🏼
Jesper Sorensen
Much appreciated 👍🏼 … now back to the serious car chat.
About the steelies, an an ax gt looks so much better with the steelies than with the alloy wheels that the majority have
The Kinks' Lola was a man.
Well Manish is not the world’s most physical guy but when he looked in his /hers eyes he almost fell for his Lola !
@@Carrera-gp9od Lo Lo Lo Lo Lola .
😂😂😂😂
er she dressed like a man i think ...
I was waiting for someone to say Z8 and wow how im right lol
If you’ve ever been a salesperson on the road, a micro nap is essential. I have deployed many, many times.
I’m disabled and so drive with hand control for anything under 20 mph & cruise control for anything above.
why not cruise control at 20? just wondering. just cos usually stop start traffic?