Rolex Daytona 116500LN: White Dial vs Black Dial | IFL Watches
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- Welcome to the Battle of the Daytonas. In this video, we will review the most hyped Rolex model on the market: the Rolex Daytona 116500LN.
We will discuss which version we like the most, the history of the Daytona since it's inception, what we like about the watch and of course the current market situation of the watch.
0:00 Intro
00:20 History of the Rolex Daytona
03:55 Basics of the 116500LN
04:57 Why we picked White/Black dial
08:08 Our personal relationship with the Daytona
10:23 When Aleks made bad decisions (again)
11:50 Market price of the watch
13:56 Conclusion
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i went with the black an couldn't be happier. everytime i look at the white, i get bored fast.
I remember in 2013 when I bought my first Rolex, the AD had every sports model in steel available in the display case. Even a “Hulk.” Oh how times have changed.
In 2014 i got 10% discont on a 114060LN, and 2015 I got 12% on a 116710LN. Both in stock, the GMT were the «ugly duckling». I have both watches today.
Hulks used to be the “cheapest” Submariner available, constantly discounted as no one wanted the green dial
I went in for a coffee to my AD he offered me a black I didnt dare ask if he had a white just bought it hey it was my lucky day 👍👍
My first reaction was that the black looked better, but over the years I favor the white. I think if you already have something like a black sub or explorer, the white daytona is a great choice
That was my exact reasoning when I purchased my white dial Daytona ceramic. I already have a Sea Dweller, and the white dial Daytona is a nice contrast when I alternate between wearing one or the other from day to day.
The contrast of the white dial (not a panda no matter how much people want it to be) grabs more attention, but the black dial has more visual mass. The black lacquer dial spills out and over the bezel lending more wrist presence. I also like how the brushed subdial rings match the brushed outer links of the bracelet. I believe the overall design to be more cohesive in the black variant and that would be my pick if I had the choice. Which I do not.
I have the black one and I love it very much, versatile in any situation and low profile.
Love these videos that gives us a part of the history ! Thank you !
Thank you!
Black it is ! Mostly thanks to Jean-Paul Belmondo. He would wear one in most of his movies so this watch has been pretty much "inceptionned" into me ;)
Imprinted even
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What a nice, informative, friendly and positive video 😃
Thank you both for the big efforts !
I wished the video not to end while watching with great joooyyy ☕️
You have got a new “fan” !
I will watch each and every single video of yours in chronological order...
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The white Daytona looks better than the black on its own, but the black Daytona looks better than the white one on the wrist
Beautiful assessment
That is so true ! I think the same when I look at them on their wrists !
True
Agreed. So do people want to look at a watch on its own, or on the wrist?? Black is underrated, understated, and 100% badass!! The Panda Daytona is more about the hype (imo).
Awesome video, thanks both!
Thank you! Appreciate it.
The black is the nicer one. The white is all about the hype and trending value increase. All else equal, the black wins hands down. For the Zenith models, I would say the opposite.
Agreed Marc! /Aleks
Black wears bigger, looks classy & timeless. I have one :)
Black for me. I think the white dial is a tad feminine IMO. I still think it’s a speculator watch but the black just hits the spot for me. The ceramic bezel blends better with the dial
Have the black one
It awesome
But I can’t wait to add white as well
nice daytonas you guys are sporting.. Love them both
Love your videos!
Such an awesome watch. I'd like to have one in my collection. I like the white dial version.
Great video. I’ve got both the white and the black ceramics and I only wear the white and the black stays in its box. For this generation of steel Daytona’s I just overalls prefer the white.
Well, since you don't wear the black you can do me a solid and sell it to me for 15k. I will get a loan just to get it, I don't care.. But I wouldn't do it for 23k. I'll mail you the check as soon as you want!!
I can up the ante and buy it off you for $23k
Nice guys, thanks to you guys I went for bth!:) but for sure White Dial all day!
haha that intro though! I prefer the "hypeman" version! :D
Haha when we doing an intro like that brosky :D! Hyyyypeman!!
/K
@@IFLWatches As soon as we travel again we gotta do it! :D
Absolutely love both, but already have several black dial watches. Have been patiently waiting for an 116500ln for two years :)
Did you get it yet
@@burgholte negative ha
@@AJ-bi6ns damn
I love the increased visibility and appearance of most white dial watches (so long as the hands are a suitable color). But it's pretty funny as I don't like watches with a black dial and bezel for the same reason mentioned in this vid lol - it's too repetitive, in my personal style.
But with that said, I don't like the fact that white dial watches are slightly more eye-catching to *other* people around... But I do *love* the fact that since it's more eye-catching to others, it's far more visible for you to tell the time accurately and quickly! My current piece isn't white dialed, but luckily enough, it has a tegimented silver/black bezel/dial combo =).
I slightly prefer the luster of the black. Plus, I already have an older 40mm polar Explorer II, so black Daytona for me.
Looking forward to getting the White Gold Black Diamond Daytona 116519LN model
Available
Why choose between the two...buy both😎!
Only if You have cash or more than two kidneys
I have both the two-tone black dial (2020) Daytona, AND the ceramic Panda dial! Love them both, for different reasons, but equally because they’re Daytona watches.. only Patek can catch my eye other than these. Good video guys
Sell me one lol
@@moealyasini2784 let’s see if any numbers interest me 😂
@@hollowmatic what would you ask ? Let’s connect my instagram is @moealyasini
@@moealyasini2784 tbh my friend, they’re priceless to me atm. I’ve just added the new Oyster Perpetual, sun ray dial. Love it. Hoping to pass on to my kids one day
Nice to see them side by side. Tough choice but I may sway towards the white dial 👌🏻
great video thx
Do you think they will raise prices or discontinue ss Daytona 2021?
The black one, but I´ve been waiting for four years now.................! So bought the 116519ln until I get it!!
Silver chrono in the black Daytona classy
Pretty simple reason why I chose the black...My AD hasn’t called on the white one yet. 😀
My heart says black, my wallets screams for white
How so? The white dial is trending for about $4K USD more than the black in the aftermarket. And they both cost the same at retail (which is basically irrelevant given the scarcity lol).
the white is more expensive if I remember
White one looks way classier
Black Daytona is so much nicer. White version is too toothpaste white. Should have been light silver. Also love how the light catches the sub-dials on the black version. That doesn't happen on the white one.
Great video 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Vad tycker ni om speedmaster apollo 50th? Jag väger mellan den och pandavarianten av 2020 olympic ed.
Båda är grymt snygga! Jag tror jag hade kört på Apollo 50th men den där Pandan är vass också /Aleks
I got the white dial Daytona and I have no doubts over the black one
Nice comparison. White for me, better contrast.
Thank you!
White is short term. Black is long term. The watch has enough bling on it's own.
Svart urtavla för mig!
nice, i save this video link for my grandchild of my grandchild
Great watches, I have the Black, but would like a White dial instead....neither watch should be worn with a suit.
Out of curiosity what watch and band would you suggest for a suit? If there was no cap. Blue suit brown shoes or grey suit black shoes.
@@arabbit9396 Patek 5196g ...don't wear brown shoes with a blue suit
@@milsub59 so black shoes with everything? What color suit for brown shoes?
@@arabbit9396 Brown/tan shoes with a suit in the brown colour range. Perhaps the Patek 5296r would be a better choice? I forgot that the 5196 is 37mm, and manual wind. No sports looking watch with a suit, and or over size (plus 40mm) or deep watches, Panerai, Hublot (give the Hublot to the dog to chew)....and a leather strap, not steel.....and on the left wrist of course....Merry Christmas.
Are the waiting times at authorised dealers significantly different? Is the black easier to get a hold of or are both 116500’s relatively equal in that regard?
Both are nearly impossible to get, but the black one is slightly (!) more available.
Tried on the white and it didn’t really do it for me. Too clinical somehow. The black is more understated and cool. Wouldn’t kick either out of bed however.
Agree. I also think the black is more elegant . I think the white dial is amazing but it’s more feminine IMO
Black dial for me! Love it
The panda speaks to me more than the black ceramic Daytona.. but on the none ceramic Daytona’s ...I like the black dial Daytona as well.
just looking for comments between white vs black dial as i just bought white dial (seiko sgg719p1). But considering buying another black dial watch (seiko sgg735p1).
though choice, I went for white!
I would love it if any of the older daytona go down in value. I buy it up.
Rolex probably the only watch brand that design a better white dial watch compared to black or darker color dial
I like them both so I bought the two
what's about a white ceramic for the black one ? 🤔
Black all the way, l also think your skin colour matters as well, just like the colour of clothes can suite one person more than another due to there skin colour.
I’ve owned a dozen Rolex watches from the 1950s all the way through to the modern era. Both sport and dress watches. The only watch I get consistent compliments on is my steel, ceramic panda. Not to say that wouldn’t happen equally with the black; and also, I bought the white dial because I liked and couldn’t care less if I get compliments (in fact, when strangers compliment me and realize it’s a Rolex I tell them it’s fake so they don’t follow me to the parking lot 🤣). But I think you can’t go wrong with either dial color. But there’s just something about the classic black on white contrast that knocks it outta the park for me.
Too bad it’s not a panda.
I'll go by white, 1st becuse of dial legibility and 2nd less reflection duo to lights,,, becuse by black dial u couldn't see hands on different lights,
I'd own both someday!
Like the Daytona white Panda 👏👏👍
The contrast on the Panda is inconsistent because the hour batons blend into the dial. they require black lacquer like the Polar. White dials do not harness brightness of the luminosity for as long overnight as the black one. "Black on black" is no issue with the Submariner et.al. Both models are not as legible as some other brands. If Rolex did not limit the production, most folk would not be so interested in the aesthetics of this model. You made a rarer quality video that was not another pointless one of comparing masterpieces with apples with pears.
Thanks for the input! We appreciate it.
Black, without question.
After owning the black dial I also sold it for the white dial. The black like you said looks very classy but too much black going on. The white has a beautiful contrast to it and like you said can be dressed up and down. The black always felt in my opnion to be a more dressy option. Great video and photos btw!
Thank you!
All black 😍
The white dial looks smaller with the black ceramic bezel.
black or white it is really a though despute!
Camera work is next level
Thank you very much!
Black is what I went too....I wouldn't say no to white, but if only one it's Black.
Two-tone rolesor with the white dial for me ;)
White of course
Best watch in the world I love the white dial oanda
Black Daytona, White Explorer II, Yellow Gold Submariner with either dial, Z-blue Milgauss, done.
Vey interesting and informative video. I agree that the white dial Daytona looks better simply because it is more legible. However it is very sad that all sports Rolexes are almost impossible to buy new from an AD and that the pre-owned market has rocketed to silly levels. Those sort of premiums would get you into a precious metal Rolex or another prestige brand like an AP with its Royal Oak and possibly into a pre-owned Patek (non-Nautilus or Aquanaut).
Rolex watches are expensive in the first place when you compare to other Swiss brands like Omega who make fine accurate in-house movements and great looking watches. Breitling too. And if you can get over the ego of the Rolex badge/crown then other Swiss brands like JLC, IWC, Vacheron, TAG or even Ball & Co (my current favourite for choice and price) or even micro brands - many of which use fantastic Swiss ETA/Valjou movements - are much better value for money, very well made and innovative. And frankly less copied and more distinctive.
I have several Rolexes and love them. But I bought them all before the recent massive surge in premiums. I'd love another but I won't pay a silly premium. I don't know if post lockdown Rolex will supply ADs properly. It's in the brands interest to keep prices high. It's a shame as it will exclude may genuine watch fans who don't have deep pockets. I'd like everyone who simply bought one to sell on at a high premium to catch a cold and the market resettle itself. After all it is a watch to wear and enjoy not trade. But that's capitalism for you.
Thanks anyway for the discussion. Good luck finding your Daytonas. There's a long queue in front of you!
Thank you, appreciate it. Agree with you on the market situation, it is indeed very sad.
/Karar
In your honest opinion do you believe a 6 digit professional model like the 126710BLNR/BLRO will be worth more or less in 10 years?I like the ability to get my money back if I ever wanted to. On the one hand, they’re hard to get sports models which will eventually be discontinued. On the other hand, eventually the hype can die down with many people having one and that will bring price down. Same question on the 126610LV (new Kermit) and the all steel Daytona. Thank you!
Depends on your entry point. Entering from retail, yes. Entering from current market, maybe. It is always a gamble buying something that is already trading for like double retail. Discontinuation is one factor that is good for the value on long term. However, as you say, hype might cool down and you never know if Rolex starts flooding the AD's with popular sports models again. It is hard to tell.
Black is timeless for me. White somehow looks to be like a toy watch, not like a real watch. It is just my opinion. Hope I don't hurt any feelings by saying so.
you hurt my feelings!!! your court date is next week!
White most definitely
Black is more shining actually, it need to try on wrist by yourself.
Black
A new version is needed.. back to the brushed case, larger size (not 38.5)
🐼=🔥🔥🔥
Black. No comparison.
Yessirrr
Black of course
Black for me
The black look better in 16520 & 116520
Always white PANDA 🐼
Bought a white ceramic Daytona!!!
Already had the black one
Now end of story Got both
No need to decide which is better
With the high price now, I rather choose a Zenith El Primero.
That’s the reality we’re living in now
Had choice of Black or White, went for black just felt a little more special….
Old school white.
White is really more attractive , but its like telling the people " hey im wearing a Daytona", unlike the black version is like "stealth mode" watch.
Ah yes we have all asked ourselves that question: Do I wear my white or my black dial Daytona today? 🧐🎩
It’s the black MOP diamond markers for me, white gold 👌
hahahah
Pourquoi ils ne font pas des Rolex anti-reflets sur les 2 faces ? 😭
white for value. black is nice
I believe you mispronounced Tachymeter...it’s pronounced “Taky-Meter”. The “Ch” sound is pronounced as a “K”
this is accurate.
Black is great
I was never interested in the white dial for some reason. I don’t know why, but I just don’t love it. I love the black dial though
Once you go black. You don't want to go back.
Once you go white, you know you choose right.
The black on white is a winner in my opinion, just an absolute stand out for me!
Karar what happened to temple of dreams, huh?
Black looks cooler
These prices seem cheap only a year and a half later :/
Black all day