ALPHADREAM’s Death - 4 Years Later...

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • October 1st, 2019 was the day ALPHADREAM officially filed for bankruptcy after being founded almost a decade prior. Today, I want to look back at this incredible company's history in memoriam of the studio.
    ALPHADREAM was the developers of the Mario & Luigi RPG series, the Hamtaro games, Kedama no Gonjiro: Fit & Run, PostPet DS, Koto Battle: Tengai no Moribito, and Tomato Adventure.
    Remember, #ThankYouALPHADREAM , #BringBackMarioAndLuigi , #ReviveM_And_L
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    Toadwood Forest - Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
    Where's Toad? - Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
    The Wind is Blowing at Cavi Cape - Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
    Dreamy Somnom Labyrinth - Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
    The End DX - Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey
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Комментарии • 275

  • @lizard.y
    @lizard.y  Год назад +100

    Something I wanted to clarify, at around 11:00 I mention a few signs that people missed of ALPHADREAMs decline, although I wanted to clarify it is obvious that people missed these. Not many are going to be checking their hiring page, I don't think many even know about the mobile games performance (Even that the sources aren't the most credible for), but the remake sales are the only *noticeable* thing. Thanks for watching and #ThankYouALPHADREAM !!

    • @bludude34
      @bludude34 Год назад

      Yo dude, have you heard of Betadream? I came across them a year back, they’re attempting to make they’re own Mario & Luigi Games and are doing great!

  • @BirdieSenpai
    @BirdieSenpai Год назад +76

    The people who comprised AlphaDream kept two huge parts of my childhood live: Super Mario RPG and the Hamtaro Ham-Ham series. I'll always be grateful to those fantastic folks who enriched my life in wonderful ways by picking up where childhood favorites (Super Mario RPG and Hamtaro: Ham-Hams Unite) left off and continuing their wacky and charming worlds, characters, and stories with the Mario & Luigi RPG series and the Hamtaro Ham-Ham series. That's something I'll never forget.

    • @seanwilson5753
      @seanwilson5753 Год назад +4

      ham ham heartbreak goes hard

    • @joshcoy6748
      @joshcoy6748 Год назад +1

      I never played hamtaro, but they looked like interesting experiences to play.

    • @seanwilson5753
      @seanwilson5753 Год назад +3

      @AlexThaGamer89 okay bud but did we ask? it's not our fault you haven't experienced peak gaming

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia Год назад

      @AlexThaGamer89Okay?

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia Год назад

      @AlexThaGamer89 Alright

  • @TrademarkLover64
    @TrademarkLover64 Год назад +191

    Here's a fun fact for those that don't know: Dream Team was actually originally going to be on the regular DS until Alphadream heard the news of the 3DS, and they actually started working on it not too long after Bowser's Inside Story came out.
    #BringBackMarioandLuigi

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +31

      I had no idea!! I was mainly going off the Iwata Asks interviews for the development history of Dream Team, had no clue about that lol

    • @toad786
      @toad786 Год назад +4

      Cool

    • @ImArTiStIc629
      @ImArTiStIc629 Год назад +6

      Now i wonder what it would have looked like

    • @enzoruiz4764
      @enzoruiz4764 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's so cool to think about... Where is the source of this information, I'd love to see it.

    • @TrademarkLover64
      @TrademarkLover64 11 месяцев назад

      @@enzoruiz4764 I believe I remember seeing it in either another video or the MarioWiki/Wikipedia article (there was a source cited).

  • @RichardHannay
    @RichardHannay Год назад +12

    Mario and Luigi RPG series went consistent with the style and gameplay but flopped hard while Paper Mario RPGs went to different directions with their styles and made many fans angry but still sells gangbusters. Power of marketing.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +4

      Really sucks how consistent they were yet being too consistent and potentially not innovative enough could’ve contributed to their death

  • @kennydarmawan13
    @kennydarmawan13 10 месяцев назад +5

    I think what makes Alphadream's bankruptcy tragic isn't because they're arrogant, lazy, or something like that.
    It's because they took too little risk when it was clear they needed to do something more than ever. By constantly playing it safe when it's not even working, they are in a really tight spot.
    Nintendo's strict mandates, lack of understanding of their demographic/audience/trending market, and lack of creativity at the time alongside a lack of understanding of the audience, and cluelessness killed our beloved game company in the end.

  • @quagfan4377
    @quagfan4377 Год назад +10

    I have actually noticed recently that Nintendo has really just been testing the waters of their games.
    For example, F zero 99 is them testing out how many people want a new f zero game. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re doing the same with putting superstar saga on NS online to see how much hype has surrounded around it.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +3

      It very likely could be, and I’m sure it is for a lot of other NSO games also

    • @spaghetto181
      @spaghetto181 11 месяцев назад +1

      super star saga is already on nso tho?

  • @katsuekitsuki
    @katsuekitsuki Год назад +8

    cant believe its already been 4 years

  • @bencundiff9405
    @bencundiff9405 Год назад +5

    Ngl with quite literally all the other mario rpg series getting some love this year, it will rly break my heart if we dont get something mario and luigi related later on.
    Fr mario + rabbids has gotten the sparks of hope dlc.
    paper mario is getting a remake of the fan favorite entry of the series TTYD.
    and even the OG mario rpg from the SNES is getting a remake too!
    Fr if all this stuff we thought was never gonna happen, happened then hope can't be lost for Mario and Luigi!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +3

      agreed, it really sucks every other Mario rpg is getting a ton of love but Mario & Luigi (ironic since it was basically the opposite in the 2010s with Mario & Luigi having the most consistent games lol)

  • @TriforceZard
    @TriforceZard Год назад +3

    Everyone is so happy now because Mario RPG and Paper Mario are coming back, but Mario & Luigi is the one I grew up with. I miss the series so much.

  • @goldenguy7470
    @goldenguy7470 Год назад +3

    This truly is spooky month... with the fact that their not here with we got one more Mario and Luigi game sigh we only got the memories of it all...

  • @4thelols740
    @4thelols740 Год назад +8

    Really hope we see the return of this amazing series !

  • @XenoPon2
    @XenoPon2 Год назад +3

    Still sad

  • @RelaxAlexX
    @RelaxAlexX Год назад +4

    It’s hurts my soul we will never getting a new game on the Nintendo Switch

    • @Navman_
      @Navman_ 3 месяца назад

      Until now

    • @Navman_
      @Navman_ 3 месяца назад

      Until now

  • @psakku
    @psakku 3 месяца назад +3

    alpha dreams decision to remake bis on a dead console that could already play it baffles me. what were they thinking?

  • @SMGP1314
    @SMGP1314 Год назад +4

    I'm shocked that the remake of Bowser's Inside Story didn't sell well. Like i played the original years ago in elementary school and i loved it, then years later i played the remake in high school and I loved it. So what was the problem with that? Did the fans think this masterpiece didn’t need a remake or we're they pissed off that they skipped Partners in Time?

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +2

      People usually say it’s a bad remake due to it being 30fps (which doesn’t really matter much considering it’s a 3DS game) and some people preferred the older sprite art in general which is understandable.
      The low sales were more so that the 3DS was practically dead in 2019, you could already play BiS on a 3DS, and lack of advertising

    • @SMGP1314
      @SMGP1314 Год назад

      ​@@lizard.yas much as I agree on the older sprites being better, I actually liked the newer sprites. Especially The Giant Battles.

  • @novustalks7525
    @novustalks7525 Год назад +2

    The bowsers inside story remake is one of the best remakes Nintendo has ever released. I cannot fathom how anyone has such problems with it

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +1

      To me a lot of people just hated it for the sake of being on the 3DS which doesn’t make the game itself bad, the only thing I could understand is that some of the sprites didn’t look as good or iconic as some in the original, but I had no problem with them

  • @Alex-hor
    @Alex-hor Год назад +2

    Loved so much all of their games

  • @Jlopezocasio
    @Jlopezocasio 10 месяцев назад +1

    My 3DS had already stopped working and I’m someone who got several.

  • @perenganito5695
    @perenganito5695 3 месяца назад +3

    Mario and Luigi has new game 🎉

  • @grantsheep2774
    @grantsheep2774 Год назад +3

    i learned about the existence of the inside story remake only after i learned about their brankrupt im still sad about it
    #revivem&l

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад

      Honestly I don't blame you considering the lackluster marketing for the game

  • @halifax_2015
    @halifax_2015 9 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who grew up in 2000s, Bowser's Inside Story was the highlight of my entire childhood. 🥲

  • @AdventVFX
    @AdventVFX 11 месяцев назад +4

    Not nice how little nintendo helped, if they gave them switch dev kits it wouldve been a great help

  • @imbored1179
    @imbored1179 Год назад +1

    Dream team is one of my favorite 3ds games. And despite the dislike of paper jam, imo it was still a solid 8/10

  • @ztarburst
    @ztarburst Год назад +4

    #ReviveM_and_L #remasterpit #remakepit #BringBackMarioAndLuigi #ThankYouALPHADREAM

  • @COND4D
    @COND4D 10 месяцев назад

    Nintendo didn’t buy out or help AlphaDream cause overall a Mario and Luigi rpg could be done in Nintendos eyes by any other of the game companies working for them, a sad but true realization

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming1234 10 месяцев назад

    This made me learn that very good games can sell poorly sometimes.

    • @duffywendell
      @duffywendell 9 месяцев назад

      The Mario & Luigi 3DS remakes' poor sales were largely due to being released at the time the 3DS was on its last legs, poor advertising, and in the case of Bowser's Inside Story remake, released on a system that can play the original version via backwards compatibility, being released after the holiday season and the North American release being coincided with the worldwide release of New Super Mario Bros. Deluxe on Switch. If only they were released for the Switch... Still have high hopes for a new entry or Partners in Time remake, though!

  • @eazybuxafew
    @eazybuxafew Год назад +1

    Damn I really enjoyed the Superstar Saga remake 😢

  • @yggdrasilsaltar
    @yggdrasilsaltar Год назад +2

    after playing every M&L a while back i personally believe that the series should return but do something different? because the gameplay loop IS fun it DOES get a bit stale a little ways in because the gimmicks dont change it up enough for me. im not saying go the paper mario route and completely remove everything that was great. just try something new!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад

      I honestly agree. One of the best things about AlphaDream was there consistency, but I do want them to branch out and introduce more actual unique gameplay mechanics outside of side modes

  • @SrMechaGojira93
    @SrMechaGojira93 Год назад +1

    #BringBackMarioAndLuigi

  • @jaysefgames1155
    @jaysefgames1155 Год назад

    Why would Nintendo bail them out? They can just wait for bankruptcy and hire the competent employees that are left with no cost. The relationship may have soured a bit with that PS4 and mobile bit too.

  • @rainbowspongebob
    @rainbowspongebob Год назад

    You made this sound like some tragedy where millons of people died bro💀

  • @Cookieman245
    @Cookieman245 Год назад +1

    I mean can't someone just reaquire the ips they made i mean Nintendo probably has them stored somewhere maybe they could do a remake just like upcoming TTYD remake that would be cool but i sadly doubt it.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +3

      It's actually very likely the series is going to return. Nintendo owns the entire Mario & Luigi series, its been this way from the start. Nintendo even just recently did something similar with another company that went out due to bankruptcy (The game was called Another Code). I'm sure the series will come back with another developer, it'll just take time

    • @Cookieman245
      @Cookieman245 Год назад +1

      @@lizard.y yep

  • @randomrants148
    @randomrants148 11 месяцев назад

    I have an idea for a Mario and Luigi: Journey to the dark kingdom what if the dark matter scattered from dark bowser and created the dark kingdom.

  • @philipsmith1134
    @philipsmith1134 Год назад +277

    4 years ago today we lost something we never knew we needed.

    • @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu
      @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu Год назад +1

      What the fck are you talking about? Of course we knew that we needed it.

    • @rurpz
      @rurpz Год назад +11

      Idk bout you but i been needing them

    • @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu
      @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu Год назад

      @@rurpz i know right!

    • @IceBlueLugia
      @IceBlueLugia Год назад +3

      We all knew we needed them though? PM had been going downhill for 7 years when they went bankrupt.

    • @adichunduru9591
      @adichunduru9591 11 месяцев назад

      Agreed, the series had so much potential, could've been as big as fire emblem.

  • @PM86YT
    @PM86YT Год назад +103

    If they ever brought back Mario and Luigi, I would love the sprites to reflect the promo art more since it would be on an HD console being the Switch's successor. No chance for it to be on the original Switch though.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +21

      I’d love that, in Paper Jam, for the paper craft battles AlphaDream had really well made 3D models of Mario and Luigi that fit the 2d artsyle that I’d even be fine with if they didn’t do sprite art

    • @TheGalekGames
      @TheGalekGames 3 месяца назад

      well you were pretty spot on! the graphics are a mix of promo art and the 3D battles (Expecially in dream team)

    • @PM86YT
      @PM86YT 3 месяца назад +1

      I stand corrected. It's on switch. November 7th gonna be hype.

    • @jevilthechaostailor
      @jevilthechaostailor 3 месяца назад

      Mario and Luigi Brothership

  • @Austin-zc9gp
    @Austin-zc9gp Год назад +77

    It definitely hurt me so much when they announced the bankruptcy. AlphaDream made an amazing series that I enjoyed so much during my childhood. I enjoyed the entire Mario and Luigi series, making it my favorite game series.

  • @huntish3760
    @huntish3760 Год назад +32

    It's really weird to me that Nintendo allowed this company to fall apart like this. I would have figured they cared about the Mario and Luigi IP enough to intervene.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +9

      Honestly, my biggest question is probably Nintendos involvement and relationship with the company post-BiS DX

  • @Legoluigi26
    @Legoluigi26 Год назад +45

    Thank you for mentioning how most of AlphaDream's employees were able to find jobs back in their industry. That's been my biggest concern since the bankruptcy was announced, but not a lot of people knew what happened to them or shared it.

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank God... I was so sad about them too. Their creativity has not been lost to time...

  • @theenderkirby
    @theenderkirby 3 месяца назад +20

    Mario and luigi are back

  • @julianx2rl
    @julianx2rl Год назад +35

    I think is worth noting that the mechanic of having Mario and Luigi's actions mapped to A & B came straight from Shigeru Miyamoto himself.
    So even though he wasn't part of the development team, that one contribution makes him extremely important to the series.

    • @paulgilbert5278
      @paulgilbert5278 Год назад +4

      Where would we be without the A&B mechanics

  • @VaniRoyal
    @VaniRoyal Год назад +40

    Hearing that the developers are still in contact, and that some went to Square has me hoping that the Mario RPG remake could lead to Square developing a new Mario & Luigi, or at least a sequel/successor to the original Mario RPG.

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 11 месяцев назад +7

      Just PLEASE. PLEASE don't let Nintendo handle it on their own, or give it to Intelligent Systems
      They can't match the creativity that Alphadream had

    • @legendalt123
      @legendalt123 4 месяца назад +1

      ​​@@LostSoulSilverIntelligent Systems were making good games before the restrictions Nintendo put on them, like Paper Mario TTYD is one of my favourite games and then they made games like SPM which isn't as bad as the newer Paper Mario games but still.
      Alpha dream was consistent and the only "bad game" was Paper Jam, which is the result of restrictions again

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 4 месяца назад +1

      @@legendalt123 Paper Mario was ruined so hard by Miyamoto it even brought down the excellent Mario & Luigi series

    • @legendalt123
      @legendalt123 4 месяца назад +2

      @@LostSoulSilver Yeah it's so sad, why was everything better back then?

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 4 месяца назад +1

      @@legendalt123 the entire 2010's period was just not good for nintendo and their series

  • @KingPeuche
    @KingPeuche Год назад +24

    I wonder if they would have survived if they spaced their games out a bit more and had their remakes on the Switch instead. I think bad timing killed them

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +10

      100%, if AlphaDream didn’t immediately begin work on BiS DX right after SS DX they would’ve saw other games in 2018 on 3DS not preforming great and could’ve made a switch to.. Switch

    • @haydennolke
      @haydennolke 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@lizard.y Funnily enough, rumor was that they were GOING to change to switch. They just needed some small funding, so they made BIS DX.
      shame it flopped.

  • @bend7726
    @bend7726 Год назад +16

    Im still sad that alphadream is no more. Their biggest mistake was the bowsers inside story remake which was released at a very bad time at the very end of the 3ds lifespan. Its just a game that didnt need to exist on that console. If they made it for the switch, it would have got more attention and may have even saved them for a bit longer.

    • @haydennolke
      @haydennolke 7 месяцев назад

      "very end of the 3ds lifespan"
      HA! THESE GUYS WENT BANKRUPT 4 YEARS BEFORE THE FINAL 3DS GAME RELEASED!
      ..no offense to your statement by the way. just found that statement funny.

    • @ThatGuy-ky2yf
      @ThatGuy-ky2yf 3 месяца назад

      ​@@haydennolke there's speculation that Alphadream went bankrupt moreso due to fines arising from crunch in their workplace particularly for the less experienced Devs rather than the disappointing sales of the post-DT games

  • @kiwirocket64
    @kiwirocket64 Год назад +24

    Alphadream going bankrupt makes me so damn sad because one of the first games I ever played ever was Mario and Luigi partners in time I will never forget the joy on my face when I play that game, despite not even being able to read yet. Alphadream will always go down in my life as one of my favorite developers of games because they kickstarted my love for gaming, and a very young age.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +2

      Agreed, when I played BiS for the first time and had no idea about it what anything was happening, I still found it a blast

    • @MaxNuttall-dy8ex
      @MaxNuttall-dy8ex Месяц назад +1

      I had a lot of fun playing paper jam. When I was six I brought my 3ds and bought paper jam with my allowance. I couldn't read but I loved the open world and running, I loved the bosses and how unique they were. How different the bosses were compared to new super Mario Bros for the ds. The music was lovely and got me into music in general, I used to hate music until I played paper jam. It was exciting, the bosses were exhilarating and the battle systems were fun including bros attacks. It took me two years to beat that game and I enjoyed every second of it. The paper craft battles were ok but even I thought it was mediocre. Paper jam introduced me to the whole series before I even knew paper Mario or Sonic or any other series. Mario and Luigi paper jam is one of my favorite games and even if the story is to Bowser captures peach it still has charm and humor and I'm glad this game was the first one I played because of I didn't I wouldn't be a Mario fan. Thank you alpha dream for the great two years of my life and for the best games I've ever played.

  • @robertmccormack1274
    @robertmccormack1274 Год назад +10

    Sad that they declared bankruptcy. I would have loved to see partners in time get a remake seeing as it’s my favourite Mario and Luigi game

  • @StevieJ3698
    @StevieJ3698 Год назад +25

    It's crazy to think I own one of the rarest Mario games to date, being that one of 50000 in the world to buy Bowser's inside story on the 3DS.
    I think both the remakes are the best of all their games actually and even crazier considering those are the ones that performed terrible. Shows what a dead console and poor marketing can do.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +10

      I agree, I prefer the remakes over the originals

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Год назад +5

      The issue isn't marketing, if I recall correctly you can still play the original BIS on your 3DS making a remake literally pointless. I believe on the DS you could play GBA games though it has been awhile.
      The remakes were not just a poor decision, but also some of the changes made led to expressiveness being changed. This means that it can completely destroy things depending on how it feels it drives people away which happened during Super Star Saga. There were many incidents where characters stood out and were reduced to generics.
      With all of this there was very almost no reason to get any of these remakes.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +4

      @@Buglin_Burger7878 All of those were factors, but the lack of promotion for the game didn’t help also

    • @just1randomguy658
      @just1randomguy658 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Buglin_Burger7878
      I can sorta attest to that loss of expressiveness to the sprites, at least with the BiS remake. I also own the original BiS, but I don't have the remake. I've watched people play it though.
      I dunno why, I just love the sprites in the original more. Especially Bowser's. Something about the way he looks in the remake seems off to me. I'm not sure what it is that makes it worse for me, but I simply don't like it as much.
      (SOMEWHAT RELATED RANT WARNING)
      It's such a shame though. I love the M&L series so much and it still hurts that they just withered out like that. It feels like nobody really cared, y'know? That's not true, I know. It just leaves me so unfulfilled and sad how they died grasping at straws. Even then, it's bittersweet how their last two games were re-living the glory days. Like a tired and old champion knowing it's almost their time. So they reflect on what made them who they are.
      Obviously that's me dramatizing and overexaggerating. The remakes were made for money. Money for them to continue to be able to fund their games and company. But when I look at it in that unnecesarily philosophical and probably cringe way, it gives me some solace. Makes me think that maybe, just maybe, they were okay with going out with what made them great. What made them special.
      Sorry for the mushy stuff. I'm probably gonna dislike this comment in a few years from now too, so don't worry about understandably cringing at it.

  • @ivanzoneBR24
    @ivanzoneBR24 Год назад +19

    So many unanswered questions. Why they have to kept doubling down on the 3ds? They couldn't afford to make a game or a Superstar Saga Remake for the Switch? Did Nintendo deny them to release it for the Switch, because it would impacted Kingdom Battles sales? Why remake Bowser's Inside Story in the first place if the 3ds can run the original? Who thought of a mobile game-like the minions mode was a good idea?

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +14

      These questions haunt me at night unironically

    • @OriginalGameteer
      @OriginalGameteer Год назад +8

      Based off what I could find, according to an interview with Game Informer after the remakes launch, BiS was seemingly chosen over PiT because they wanted to go with the best received entry in the series and try exploring Bowser and Bowser Jr's relationship (which became Jr's Journey). Also to continue with Fawful's story that they added to back in SS since he was a fan favorite character
      As for why it wasn't on the switch, they stated it was so that the game could retain the dual screen elements of the original like the minigames and giant battles

    • @ivanzoneBR24
      @ivanzoneBR24 Год назад +6

      @@OriginalGameteer All of those excuses they made just intensify how pointless all of this, nobody asked for a BIS remake on the 3ds, that featured Bowser Jr in a separate story. I understand why would be difficult to release this game on the Switch but this remake shouldn't even exist in the first place, if they really wanted to make a story with Bowser Jr, they should made a separate game for it, and preferably on Switch.

    • @OriginalGameteer
      @OriginalGameteer Год назад +7

      ​@ivanzone7538 I largely assume it boils down to familiarity with the console and somewhat easy asset reuse, especially given they might(???) not have been doing well financially beforehand
      It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go do a remake on a console they have zero experience with and have to build from the ground up imo, on a console that doesn't immediately work as well with the games style like the 3ds
      If BiS was a (failed) attempt to stay afloat, I can honestly believe them as seeing a switch take on the game being too big a risk to take. I don't they made a GOOD decision by any means, but it was probably their safest bet at the time if you ask me

    • @ivanzoneBR24
      @ivanzoneBR24 Год назад +3

      @@OriginalGameteer Do you know what I think is funny but messed up, Alphadream worked with Intelligent Systems in Paper Jam right? And they didn't learned nothing about giving one final hurrah of a game? I am talking about Fire Emblem Awakening, that was pitched to Nintendo as the last game to the series because of financial problems this series was bringing to Nintendo and knowing that this was their last game, IS put so much effort to it to try to change that and they succeded. Alphadream could have done the same thing, pitched to Nintendo to help them make what would be their final game on the Switch and make it special. Then, with the help of Nintendo Kyoto or another second party studio they could do it.

  • @uncledot1868
    @uncledot1868 Год назад +29

    That was a nice video. It's such a shame that things ended the way they did, but I still believe in new beginnings! I would love an all-new Mario & Luigi for the Switch/2, as well as faithful remakes of the previous titles.

  • @zombieguy4444
    @zombieguy4444 11 месяцев назад +17

    Alphadream feels like a bunch of Mario fans making official games
    And that's awesome

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  11 месяцев назад +5

      Definitely!!

  • @carlosemilio385
    @carlosemilio385 3 месяца назад +8

    Here’s a fun fact: WERE SO FUCKING BACK BABY!!!!!!!!

  • @samyb4566
    @samyb4566 Год назад +16

    I really miss them. It's thanks to Mario and Luigi Bowser's inside Story that I developped an interest for RPGs. As I keep playing them, I keep seeing the differences between their battle systems. I hope that we will get another Mario and Luigi game one day.

  • @ULTRADJ4EVER
    @ULTRADJ4EVER 11 месяцев назад +6

    It's still a shock to me considering they made a lot of good games in their run. Partners In Time remake hopefully one day, who knows?

  • @etasjo
    @etasjo 11 месяцев назад +4

    its my fault for not buying enough copies of mario & luigi bowsers inside story + bowser jrs journey :c

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  11 месяцев назад +2

      HOW DARE YOU

  • @barelyhere7200
    @barelyhere7200 Год назад +17

    I hope that when we eventually get a new Mario and Luigi game, Captain Goomba will finally get to have his face off against the Bros

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +4

      I would pay so much money for them to interact lmao

    • @JumpMan96_
      @JumpMan96_ Год назад +6

      The Elite Captain Quartet fighting Mario & Luigi has been constantly in my mind for years now!
      You can sorta get an idea on how the bros and quartet would first interact by watching the beginning cutscene of the mission “Trio Clash” in Jr.’s Journey.
      (I just love the Captains to death, definitely some of my favourite characters of all time)

  • @nunyabiddeness6544
    @nunyabiddeness6544 11 месяцев назад +3

    I loved Alphadream on GBA and DS, but i was so turned off by Dream Team when i bought it on release day that i was uncertain about their next game.
    Paper Jam reviewed poorly, and implemented Sticker Star's paper mario instead of any of the paper mario designs from the original trilogy, making it an immediate non-starter for me. I also hated the artstyle chosen for the Superstar Saga remake. Being so let down by those two releases, by the time the BiS remake was announced, i just didnt care for this company anymore. The last game they released that i actually liked was nearly a decade prior to their shuttering, so i was unmoved by their closure.
    Glad everyone made it out okay, but especially with news of SMRPG remake and TTYD remake, im in no hurry to see their return.

  • @danielnasby7695
    @danielnasby7695 Год назад +4

    I think the series would still be alive if the two remakes (SS and BiS) released on switch.
    Edit: #BringBackMarioAndLuigi

  • @blazera
    @blazera Год назад +8

    Dream Team was a milestone of sprite work, to fit into the 3D environment they sprited so many different angles for some of the most fluid looking sprite characters ever.

  • @kuraihikari5785
    @kuraihikari5785 Год назад +8

    Nintendo probably trademarked the series not with intent to bring it back, but purely just to ensure they get to keep a hard grip on it. And as much as I love the series, I would be worried that another entry without the original people behind it just wouldn’t carry the same magic.

  • @devilmaykry
    @devilmaykry Год назад +3

    Why is this music re:minding me of the Kingdom Hea-... oh yeah...

  • @Tomcat-qb4wt
    @Tomcat-qb4wt Год назад +33

    Really good video here. Its sad to look back at the decline in 2019 but I'm sure if people care enough they could bring it back
    #BringBackMarioAndLuigi

  • @jarvis5552
    @jarvis5552 Год назад +6

    As someone who still has PiT & BiS (Original), and probably has DT somewhere too, MAN I love this series and I'd love to see it return. Genuinely M&L, Pokemon Y, and Rhythm Heaven Megamix are what keep me playing my 3ds lol

    • @thewiseoldfox
      @thewiseoldfox Год назад +2

      As someone who played a ton of Pokémon X on my 3DS, I'm happy to see the high praise of Pokémon Y here. Gen 6 Pokémon didn't deserve so much of the hate it got

  • @willtg4508
    @willtg4508 Год назад +5

    Proud to be one of the few who actually bought the BiS remake. There's so many issues with the BiS remake, including the modern art style that was becoming tired after 4 games, the lackluster and boring side mode, the remastered ost that lacks the zeal of the original, the fact that the 3ds was a piece of technology I'd been using for 8 years at that point, and that it was riding the tails of the worst game in the series + another remake beforehand. It's almost funny how many factors created a storm of ruin for this game. That being said, I really hope nintendo decides to bring back this franchise against all odds.

  • @astralskeleton87
    @astralskeleton87 Год назад +4

    I am kinda sad ALPHADREAM went into backruptcy mostly since when i saw them releasing remakes for superstar saga and bowser's inside story i was impatient for a remake of partners in time since that was the first mario and luigi game i ever played and i had great experiences with it but then the bankruptcy news came and i was very distraught

  • @Ryke-oz5cq
    @Ryke-oz5cq 3 месяца назад +5

    MARIO & LUIGI IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • @veghesther3204
    @veghesther3204 Год назад +2

    With the exception of Sticker Star easily the WORST game of them all its too bad they went Bankrupt which means a Partners in Time Switch remaster is kind of out of the question since their the ones that still did the DS versions of Super Star Saga and Bowser's Inside Story.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +1

      Intelligent Systems made Paper Mario, not AlphaDream but I agree regardless

  • @Nightcaat
    @Nightcaat Год назад +7

    This is probably the single best researched video on this subject, nice work!!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад

      Thank you so much!!!!

  • @polocatfan
    @polocatfan Год назад +11

    this wasn't a death, it was a murder

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +3

      Ong

    • @paulgilbert5278
      @paulgilbert5278 Год назад +1

      I second this

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Год назад

      No, it was a self murder.
      BIS remake was literally the worst possible decision as people could play it already. You're remaking what people could still play.

    • @M20004
      @M20004 9 месяцев назад

      Nah bro this was genocide

  • @GeorgeMarionerd
    @GeorgeMarionerd 11 месяцев назад +4

    Great video!
    It really is a shame that they made the decisions they did with the BIS remake, it really turned into their unfortunate swan song. I do hope that the series gets picked back up by Nintendo someday, maybe at the start of a console's life instead of when it's already got one foot in the grave.

  • @TheSnorlax7
    @TheSnorlax7 Год назад +5

    The fact that Luigi's Mansion 2 (a 3DS title) being ported to the Switch as well as TTYD being a remake for it gives me hope that one day M&L will be ported as well. Nintendo is starting to show some favor to the Mario RPGS!

    • @bend7726
      @bend7726 Год назад +3

      I think people just want a new mario and luigi game at this point though. Superstar saga and BIS have had the remake magic already and their latest game paper jam was poorly received. I think the majority of fans would be annoyed to see yet another remake ported to the switch. A new game is needed to revive the franchise at this point.

  • @rifatbobos
    @rifatbobos 11 месяцев назад +5

    As someone born in 2000s Mario & Luigi series, Partners in Time in particular might be my Super Mario RPG because how nostalgic it was. Time and time again that game just randomly crossed my mind, remembering how fun and surprisingly dark they were. Someday, babies, someday...

  • @ChillyMarioBros
    @ChillyMarioBros 4 месяца назад +2

    This year is gonna be 5 years of the bankruptcy, damn 😢

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 2 месяца назад +3

    Turns out we had a retry clock left

  • @FanniSarosi
    @FanniSarosi 2 месяца назад +2

    "Were you killed?"
    "Sadly, yes... but I lived!"

  • @gabriel_almond4622
    @gabriel_almond4622 Год назад +6

    honey, lizardy just uploaded

  • @costby1105
    @costby1105 Год назад +4

    A huge problem was an inability to develop for 3D games much less games in HD. Other companies known for 2d Sprites had long pivoted to 3d Models and many of them were already using 3D models to help develop 2d game like ArcSys and SNK. Mario and Luigi is unlikely to return anytime soon as Nintendo is likely looking at how to proceed with Mario RPGs, collab with SquareEnix, make older style Paper Mario games, or even potentially a new partner with new ideas.
    Nintendo also has a tendency to very rarely buy out partners as way of keeping themselves separate financially. They don't actually own Intelligent Systems, GameFreak, Hal Laboratories. Despite working with them for over 30 years on each of them. Nintendo only has 8 Subsidiaries in the past 20 or so years.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +1

      Yup, the transition to 3D for Gamefreak (mainly when going to Switch) was really rough, it’s hard going from 2D sprites your entire studios lifespan to models

  • @SquirrelMario
    @SquirrelMario Год назад +6

    It still hurts‼️‼️🗣️

  • @jumentoqueanima
    @jumentoqueanima 3 месяца назад +3

    HEY MARIO AND LUIGI IS BACK! :D

  • @Arebus27
    @Arebus27 Год назад +3

    The scary thing is that I have a physical copy of the 3ds version mario and luigi bowser’s inside story and learning about alpha dreams bankruptcy on oct 3-4th kinda hurt…. (I have a U.S copy)

  • @tahnis_walart
    @tahnis_walart Год назад +5

    I noticed a pattern with the recent directs. The June 2023 direct revealed the Mario RPG Remake and the September 2023 direct revealed the Paper Mario Thousand Year Door Remake. That means that the upcoming probably February 2024 direct could reveal a Mario And Luigi Partners In Time remake or even better a Mario And Luigi 6. #BringbackMarioandLuigi
    (Edit: I originally said December 2023 but February directs are more common.)

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +1

      nintendo doesnt do directs in december, but the influx of mario rpgs def could mean something for the future

    • @tahnis_walart
      @tahnis_walart Год назад

      @@lizard.y Oh my bad. I kinda guessed December because of the 3 month gaps between the last few.

    • @TheAmazingRaptor
      @TheAmazingRaptor Год назад +2

      @@tahnis_walartNintendo’s direct pattern usually goes Feburary-June-September

    • @tahnis_walart
      @tahnis_walart Год назад

      @@TheAmazingRaptor Oh

    • @spaghetto181
      @spaghetto181 6 месяцев назад +1

      welp no partners in time remake or m&l 6. luigi's mansion 2 tho

  • @KorbenTheFireX
    @KorbenTheFireX 4 месяца назад +1

    I honestly find it sad that I'd never grew up with any games from this Company as a kid (I was born in the early 2000s). My brother did try to get into them at one point, but Idk what happened.

  • @ThatOneOf3StrongholdPlayers
    @ThatOneOf3StrongholdPlayers 6 месяцев назад +1

    GIVE ME MY MODERNIZED REMAKE OF M&L PARTNERS IN TIME, I NEED IT. ITS THE FIRST RPG I HAVE PLAYED, AND MY COPY FOR THE DS IS SLOWLY DIEING.

  • @pancholegaspi7231
    @pancholegaspi7231 Год назад +5

    Hey! Also a fan of this series as well and I also loved the side modes too, but I can understand it's not for everyone if there's not much variety in it. But can I ask if you can make a video discussion about how good or bad the Minion Quest/Jr.s Journey are since I don't see much videos talk about them if possible?

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад

      Id love to make a video specifically on the remakes and reviewing them, I did make a video on BJJ if you didn’t see that, but I do want to make a closer video into the games

  • @kathymitchell160
    @kathymitchell160 8 месяцев назад +1

    The first mario and Luigi game i had was bowser's inside story the remake i liked it but when I bought new super Mario bros somehow I lost that game then 2 years later I bought paper jam then another 2 years later i bought the original version of bowser 's inside story then lo and behold Christmas eve 2023 I got partners in time and dream team next day I got the superstar saga remake which is great then I got the original version of superstar saga now I got the entire series of mario and luigi kinda

  • @refreey
    @refreey Год назад +4

    I hope time gives this video the views it deserves. As a kid I played the fuck out of partners in time, that game was sooooo good. Its probably the only reason I still buy any mario games, really. I sunk so many hours into that game, playing it on road trips, where ever I could manage it. Sad that the studio shut down, hope nintendo makes some more mario games that do for others what this game did for me.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад

      Thank you so much!! Growing up, I had the same relationship with BiS and DT

  • @Luxembourgish
    @Luxembourgish Год назад +5

    The 3DS remake of Superstar Saga replaced the diverse Toads with generic ones, and the pilot uniform Koopas with generic ones. Like Paper Mario, it felt limited.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +4

      Yeah, some do think its a Paper Mario situation where it's moreso them being "mandated" but I think AlphaDream more-so just didn't have as much money to make individual sprites as such for every modified character

    • @Luxembourgish
      @Luxembourgish Год назад +1

      @@lizard.y The issue is that despite popular belief, Superstar Saga DX/Remake sprites are *not* the same as Paper Jam sprites. Put them side by side and they are angled differently. Since they made new sprites from the ground up, they should have added in the diversity.

  • @Jessica_Schweser
    @Jessica_Schweser Год назад +4

    I’m still surprised the day Alphadream declares bankruptcy, just so happens to fall on my 14th birthday. But now that we have both a remake of Mario RPG AND TTYD coming, I have new hope that M&L will get its turn to come back too.
    #BringBackMarioandLuigi

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +3

      Sorry it happened on your birthday, happy belated birthday tho!! 🎉

    • @Jessica_Schweser
      @Jessica_Schweser Год назад

      @@lizard.y Thanks

  • @السراقالمجهول
    @السراقالمجهول 11 месяцев назад +3

    man it already has been 4 years since this happened, damn🙁

  • @MarioFanOnYouTube
    @MarioFanOnYouTube Год назад +4

    What an incredible video. Subscription earned!
    #BringBackMarioAndLuigi
    #ReviveM_and_L

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +2

      thank you so much!!

    • @Tystlaten028
      @Tystlaten028 10 месяцев назад

      #BringBackMarioAndLuigi
      #ReviveM_and_L

  • @TheWolfBunny64
    @TheWolfBunny64 2 месяца назад +1

    HEY LIZARD! THE FRANCHISE IS BACK FROM THE DEAD!!

  • @alexkemplen772
    @alexkemplen772 Год назад +3

    I love the music at the end of the video. Very nostalgic

  • @save_zawarudo
    @save_zawarudo Год назад +2

    with the unexpected come back from the first two rpgs i have a small hope something mario and luigi related is being planned
    like yeah sadly AD is dead but nintendo still has the ip

  • @chrisjohnson9542
    @chrisjohnson9542 Год назад +3

    A English version of Tomato Adventures would be awesome.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +2

      Agreed, there is a fanmade translation though which I used footage from in the video!

  • @beemansgaming
    @beemansgaming Год назад +4

    Hopefully, one day. #ReviveM_and_L

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +2

      I'm sure of it in light of recent Mario RPG remakes, it'll just be a while sadly

  • @NCDude5023
    @NCDude5023 11 месяцев назад +1

    I do miss AlphaDream dearly BUT If Nintendo were to ever release Mario & Luigi Games again on Switch then how about a Story revolving around Wario & Waluigi and maybe they make a Warui Machine that spits out Wario & Waluigi mustache onto people that start to turn others into Wario & Waluigi versions of themselves and Mario & Luigi have to put an end to Wario & Waluigi antics.
    #BringBackMarioandLuigi
    (P.S. Warui means Bad in Japanese)

  • @Minochu96
    @Minochu96 Год назад +2

    Nintendo should totally bring this series back
    I still like every entry in the series and own them all
    bring it back with a brand new game or a remake of Partners in Time
    also the Bowser's Inside Story remake should have released on Switch (same with the Superstar Saga remake)
    I'm sure it would have done so much better if it released on Switch instead on the 3DS when the Switch was already doing so well and the 3DS was already pretty much done
    hopefully we'll see the series again sometime, and is more likely now, that Mario RPG and Paper Mario Thousand-Year Door is getting a remake
    I mean how great would it be if they announce a new game in the Mario and Luigi series and it launched alongside the Switch successor or very early in it's life (with a new Mario Kart hopefully within the 1st year or 2)

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +1

      100%, a new Mario & Luigi early in the successors life would guarantee great sales

    • @SquirrelMario
      @SquirrelMario Год назад +1

      They should definitely start with a remake. Let the new devs figure out how the series works, like Mercury Steam with Metroid.

  • @ladyaceina
    @ladyaceina Год назад +2

    i think the reason nintendo did not save alphadream
    is because alpha dreamwas not even putting in the effort to improve they chose to just stay on the 3DS rather than take the leap to HD

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +3

      id kinda doubt that, Nintendo producers also thought 3DS would be better then Switch for the remakes
      they really couldn’t have switched to HD at the time considering their debt already was large

  • @twaggytheatricks4960
    @twaggytheatricks4960 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for the video ^_^ First one I've seen of your channel, and I find it well-put together. Thank you for your passion, as well, I'm particulatly happy you managed to contact some of AlphaDream's people. Kudos!
    Long comment below!
    Their style, story ideas, and battle system will forever be a part of me, especially everything put in the Beanbean Kingdom of Superstar Saga. The worldbuilding of it, the crazy smiles plastered over emblems, enemies, allies, the music (Teehee Valley

  • @theghostwiththemost789
    @theghostwiththemost789 Год назад +11

    What really stings is that people don’t even talk about Bowser’s minions and Bowser juniors journey despite how good they are. Yeah the gameplay isn’t amazing or anything but I don’t think it’s supposed to be. It’s just a fun little add-on to the main game and it’s a game you’re supposed to play well doing something else like watching TV or something. The story of both games are also really good especially juniors journey. I stand by the junior the journey is the best Mario story we have gotten in years and I genuinely think it has a better story than the main game. I think juniors journey is the second greatest Mario story we have ever gotten (the first being super paper Mario’s) so I find it really annoying that no one talks about it and they just dismiss it as a little side mode. Also how ironic is it that the Mario games with the best stories are the ones with the most controversial gameplay

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  Год назад +5

      I completely agree. I fell in love with BJJ (as you can probably tell if you've seen my other video) and NO ONE talks about how great the writing is, which really sucks.

    • @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu
      @alexanderthegreat-mx5zu Год назад

      The side modes have amazing and unique gameplay butt these idiots couldn't appreciate it.

    • @Hyper_Drud
      @Hyper_Drud 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, I loved the side Modes from the remakes. I also loved how they tweaked the team building aspect in BJJ. I was bummed I couldn’t place units where I wanted in Bowser’s Minions. Then Bowser Junior’s Journey comes along and fixes that.

  • @andrewmckibben2637
    @andrewmckibben2637 Год назад +2

    Bowsers inside story was my first ds game and it taught me how to read and took me like most of my childhood to beat. Also the fact they weren’t allowed to use bowser to be playable again???

  • @TGVBT640
    @TGVBT640 11 месяцев назад +2

    It really is sad eh