I've never watched any of her stand-up before, but I have a lot of respect for her right now. There is no subject that can't be joked about, no topic that is taboo. There are only things that you, as an individual, don't find funny, and it's insane to try and claim your own perspective as an objective truth. Rape jokes can, and quite often are very funny. A friend of mine recently revealed to me that he was molested by a family member as a child, and I started making jokes about it even before he finished the entire story, and guess what? It made him feel better about it, and made him feel normal. Also, "...afraid to offend the college minorities." The funny thing is, most of the people getting offended aren't the minorities. They're usually those who have a pretty comfortable life, who haven't been ridiculed or made fun of before, and so assume that no one else would ever want to be, either. They get offended on the behalf of others, because they project their own insecurities onto everyone else. Most of them aren't bad people, by any means, most of them think they're doing the right thing. They're not horrible, they're just really, really misinformed. Universities and colleges _should_ be trying to rectify this, but they're just coddling them and making it worse.
Smexi Jebus i agree most people who are offended aren't the minorities. my white psych teacher in high school got offended when i purposely spoke in a vietnamese accent even though i am vietnamese lmao
jenevieee It's weird, isn't it? People being offended _for_ others? As if, not only do they know what an entire demographic of people would and wouldn't find acceptable, but that the entire demographic is so frail and fragile that it needs protecting. It's insane.
***** thank you. i was wondering, but was afraid to look stupid. Look my *pic* is up. _i_ don't want to be ridiculed. nothing has changed yet. lets see
This woman completely understands comedy. Comedy is part of friendship, it's part of being comfortable to tease and mock those people in a comedic matter. Why? Because it's inclusion. Never make a minority into a taboo subject to talk about because that instantly makes those people a subject that is forbidden and that destroys their inclusion into society.
+louie wallenberg You're not friends with unknown people in society. They don't fucking know you so when you make controversial jokes you're simply insulting strangers.
I'm a fresh starting comedian and this really helps me understand the topic of political correctness in comedy. I've been defending comedians from people who demanded political correctness in comedy and its nice to see I'm not alone especially if the great lisa lampinelli agrees
People who can dish it our but can't take it are really just insecure, and that's unfortunate for them. They have some issues to resolve within themselves and I wouldn't keep pushing it.
political correctness is the scapegoat for uncreative comedians. find me a video where a comedian is pulled off the stage for being offensive with their jokes.
sheepwshotguns Specifically conservative socially retarded comedians are the ones complaining about people being PC. They don't know how to tell dangerous jokes without being a bully at the same time... Theirs a difference between a "racial" joke and a "racist" joke. Louis CK is a pro comedian and does it right.
sheepwshotguns Plenty of comedians get harassed after a show because someone in the audience got butthurt when they feel they've been insulted by the act. It's rare to see someone get heckled on a big special or something because they get edited afterwards, but it's definitely a thing that happens.
GRiMHOLD No, my friend, every talented comedian is complaining about it. I never saw a comedian being thrown out of the stage for being offensive, neither the conservative and socially retarded ones in minority neighborhoods. But i've seen PC comedians being kept from presenting at comedies because of assholes who think their feelings are special.
A good offensive joke is one that makes a connection to the audience in a way that makes your intentions clear. If the audience isn't laughing then you failed at making that connection. I admit that too many people actively work against it when the comedian tries to establish this connection, but there are also too many "comedians" who don't understand the inner mechanics of their craft and think only the audience is to blame when it comes to offensive jokes. The key to comedy is the connection with your audience. If you have that, then you can joke about anything and you'll get the laughs you deserve. Lisa seems to understand that.
Victor Martelle Read the first 4 words in my OP. We're talking about making offensive jokes funny. The two are not mutually exclusive at all, but the funny part is by far the most important part. That requires a connection with your audience... That's true for for any joke but the stakes are higher for offensive jokes.
oO PPH Oo You're taking about "good offensive jokes." As I said and as the video explained, a joke is a joke. It can be offensive and end up not being funny, who cares?
I love this 1one, it speaks upon what is just the greatest ways of being able to really do so great things in comedy and what it can mean to be a comedy-on; so thank you guys, for picking such a great person and that of what is being able to shear her shine
Humor and comedy have a range of functions: to unmask and expose hypocrisy, to enable catharsis (as Lampanelli points out in the 911 example), or to provide insight into tacit cultural assumptions -- but also to legitimize dominance and superiority. Example? Any type of joke that denigrates another group. That said, Dinesh D'Souza popularized the use of the term PC in the way it's commonly used today. You can decide for yourself whether or not you want to line up with people like him.
Old person jokes, GO! Just kidding (or not?). I totally agree with you, Lisa. My best friends and some of my family members make fun of me because of who I am and how I act, but they are the most sincere ones.
Some people seem to think even making a joke about an 'icky' topic (rape, tragedies such as 9/11, etc...) in and of itself, without the actual joke's potential shocking or horrific material, is bad. What world do we live in when people think it's bad to make light of a topic AT ALL ? I agree with Miss Lampanelli, making light of... problematic topics, is one of the best ways to get the gears turning and start a proper conversation on those topics, if only by lessening people's fear of saying things wrong and allowing a more free-flowing exchange.
I agree with most of this. The only part I don't agree on is that a lot of college students are offended. They really are offended and that is why college administrators are afraid of offending them.
BuickGirl1986 Indeed. I have always valued comedy that is clever and in good taste. I have a very good sense of humor and I am a layman comedian myself although I rarely get time enough to perform locally because of my studies in university. But I do not have issues with different forms of comedy even if I do not always get them myself and I am no stranger to offensive comedy, because I like comedy that is related to myself even or directly about myself. Obviously it is not what I use on wider audiences but it is still a form of comedy that I can accept.
Comedians are some of the few people that can be real and not worry about being fired. They are the only people speaking truth in this country right now. AND we still attack them like they are an elected official and not someone trying to be funny. please be offended and tell everyone you are so we know who you are.
This is one of the holy grails in life, stop taking yourself so serious, I have disabled dad and am mixed race and I have made fun of it as long I can remember :')
EH CBunny Actually, no there's not. Simply suggesting there is doesn't make it so. Also I have a feeling the guy above that replied to you was being sarcastic.
Well there is not, possibly everything is offensive to somebody. It's a problem that seems eternal. This is a genuine challenge not intended as a "gotcha" move. Can you tell me a joke that can not be interpreted as offensive a given group.
EH CBunny No there is not. PC by definition is censorship of speech based on artificially decided offences. If you look at comedy and get offended then you are the person with the problem. Some forms of comedy rely on shock value and being offensive, the form of comedy I am talking about relies on breaking the barriers of what we would generally consider as very offensive things to say. Jerry Seinfeld noted that he will not perform at any University because PC there and it is killing comedy. Indeed the problem with PC and any form of censorship is that it will eventually lead to the same conclusion that it is within North Korea or even worse. Now how is this funny to you?
Taboo/black comedy is great because it points out elements of absurdity within sensitive topics, not because it "makes light of them". Racist jokes are funny because racist beliefs are absurd, not because racism isn't really that big a deal. I also don't understand her rationale for why every person with a physical handicap must be cool with cripple jokes, all because one guy in a wheelchair had a sense of humor about it. It's like assuming that every person in a wheelchair is part of a hivemind or some nonsense. I adore dark comedy. But the notion that comedy is amoral/apolitical is blatantly ignorant.
I disagree with suggestion that it's not the students who are the easily offended ones. Sure, it's the faculty too, but I think the biggest part is the students (mostly the ones in social sciences) have learned that they can basically take control of entire campuses by claiming that everything they dislike is "threatening" to them, thereby forcing the school to take action regardless of the complaint. I call it Title IX culture.
Yea repeating stereotypes just makes everyone a great friend, but not really. Most humor is actually cruel and mostly for those that the joke is not about to feel superior at the expense of others It's not a coincidence that those most privileged have the most to laugh about with these jokes.
This is difficult because getting the tone right is so hard. You should be able to joke about anything. But you shouldn't be able to ridicule innocent minorities in a way that actually adds to prejudice. Only very subtle changes in delivery can make a joke that builds rapport and camaraderie into a joke that tells people they are superior and supports their prejudice. So like all things in life, it's about judgement - mainly the judgement of the audience to only point out problems based on all factors, not just topics or words.
While I agree with the title, I don't see Lampanelli's "comedy" as remarkably offensive. Quite the opposite, really. It's cool that she wants to be a cheerleader for what better comedians are doing though.
Who in their right mind actually thinks A-hole is a term of endearment? Reminds me of my severely confused ex-GF who had endured all sorts of emotional abuse at the hands of her a-hole husband.
I disagree. Most white people aren't being made fun of in comedy acts in the same manner other racial or ethnic groups are.Generally highlighting negative stereotypes. Bashing political correctness only shows a lack of comedic talent and creativity.
I do believe that comedy takes power away from serious subjects and i support that comedy. Shock/alternative comedians reach for the low fruit and reenforce stereotypes, which i dont support. In my opinion comedians should be making fun of stereotypes and the absurdity of the system that makes stereotypes possible. Being a bully is no longer fun. Get a new job.
I think George Carlin was the one who really kicked 'offensive comedy' off and made it an avenue to address these kind of topics noone was comfortable talking about, Theres also a fine line between using offensive comedy constructively and just being an asshole.
Alright, I agree with 99% of what Lisa just said. I notice a neat trick, where she includes herself in a list of very successful comics. I'm not exactly sure where Lisa is on an IRL comedy ranking, but Seinfeld and Louie are comedy geniuses in their field. Maybe it's the intercut with the somewhat tired joke of "SJP looks like a horse". Another clip with some more "edgy" material would have been an improvement and actually relevant to the argument she's trying to make. Now, the 1% I disagree on with Lisa is about the current generation. At least in Europe, the newest generation of the liberal left-left has become a bunch of vegetarian/vegan, whiny PC cunts. Lisa would get press, but it'd be the "why do successful women have to tear each other down? Lisa sets feminism back 20 years" kind. I do love Lisa on the Comedy Central Roast pannels, and am probably gonna go check out one of her programs now.
Pwasma Dwagon Nonsense. littlesometin should have a safe-space full of play-dough and pictures of puppies for each time she is a victim of this 'bullying'. Either that or she can grow up.
Ian Powy So from the things that I have said, you have taken 'you think that it is mature to laugh at jokes'? Re-read the post where I say 'grow up' and then ask yourself if you have made a decent assessment of my position.
Right so, the way that I see it is that there are responses to hearing a joke that you are the butt of; two are 'mature' and, thankfully, the norm and the third is the product of a silly hyper-offended culture of, typically, young university students. Let's imagine that it is me that is the butt of the joke. I am pretty short for a male, so let's say that it is my height that is being made fun of. Here are the three responses: 1. 'Ouch! Touche! That was a zinger and whilst I am laughing because it was funny... fuck you!' 2. 'Hmm, I get the joke, but the thing that you said isn't actually true. If anyone is interested I will tell you why you are wrong.' 3. 'Mmwah!! Bullying! Oppression! Shut up! Someone shut that bully up! You are a *****ist! I am a victim of social violence!.......etc'.
I kind of have ideal when it comes to people and its part of why i love Lisa as a comedian, not all her jokes make me laugh but that does not mean they aren't funny to other people. If you cant laugh at yourself you shouldn't laugh at other people. i think Lisa embodies this idea, many times i have watched her on celebrity roasts. she says some mean things and i love it, she takes shots at herself putting herself down but still laughing, people take some brutal shots at her and she loves it. she has made jokes like her fucking alot, just like amy schumer but unlike amy, when a 17 year old makes a slut joke, Lisa will laugh
I think there needs to be a better nuanced conversation about being "PC", instead of the constant black and white issue the anti-PC people seem to be making out of it. The anti-PC crowd seems to think that others giving their opinions on why they don't like certain "jokes" is anti-free speech. But it's the very definition of free speech to give out your opinion. Some "offensive" jokes I find funny, some I actually find offensive. Why is that so bad? How is that so hard to understand? Why can you say you like it, while others get bullied by the anti-PC crowd for saying they didn't like it? Personally I think it's projection from the anti-PC crowd. THEY are the ones that DON'T want to face others opinions, then hide behind being "anti-PC" so they don't really have to deal with others opinions.
If nothing is off limits, then why don't Jewish comics like Seinfeld crack jokes about the 400+ children killed by the Israeli incursion into Gaza in 2014? Jewish comedians always rely on the tried-and-true (and safe) stereotypes of Jewishness. Why.
You can't maintain a victim complex if you don't get offended. The moment you laugh is the moment you lose your ability to use your personal issue as a tool to garner attention and sympathy. It's harder to ride through life without a sob story that you make sure everyone knows.
The enemy of social progress? Now that's a joke. Surely putting up with political correctness at the expense of comedy is better than putting up with institutional racism and homophobia that existed before political correctness.
And now how this matches up with one of your previous videos where a woman explains - quite eloquently by the way - that making gay jokes is not ok? Think big think :P
I've never watched any of her stand-up before, but I have a lot of respect for her right now. There is no subject that can't be joked about, no topic that is taboo. There are only things that you, as an individual, don't find funny, and it's insane to try and claim your own perspective as an objective truth. Rape jokes can, and quite often are very funny. A friend of mine recently revealed to me that he was molested by a family member as a child, and I started making jokes about it even before he finished the entire story, and guess what? It made him feel better about it, and made him feel normal.
Also, "...afraid to offend the college minorities." The funny thing is, most of the people getting offended aren't the minorities. They're usually those who have a pretty comfortable life, who haven't been ridiculed or made fun of before, and so assume that no one else would ever want to be, either. They get offended on the behalf of others, because they project their own insecurities onto everyone else. Most of them aren't bad people, by any means, most of them think they're doing the right thing. They're not horrible, they're just really, really misinformed. Universities and colleges _should_ be trying to rectify this, but they're just coddling them and making it worse.
***** Hey, I was just wondering.. How did you make the letters in the word "forced" veer to the right? lol. Is that an option on a smart phone?
Smexi Jebus i agree most people who are offended aren't the minorities. my white psych teacher in high school got offended when i purposely spoke in a vietnamese accent even though i am vietnamese lmao
jenevieee It's weird, isn't it? People being offended _for_ others? As if, not only do they know what an entire demographic of people would and wouldn't find acceptable, but that the entire demographic is so frail and fragile that it needs protecting.
It's insane.
***** Hey, *cool*! Thanks, that's very handy stuff, right _there_. :)
***** thank you. i was wondering, but was afraid to look stupid. Look my *pic* is up. _i_ don't want to be ridiculed.
nothing has changed yet. lets see
This woman completely understands comedy. Comedy is part of friendship, it's part of being comfortable to tease and mock those people in a comedic matter. Why? Because it's inclusion. Never make a minority into a taboo subject to talk about because that instantly makes those people a subject that is forbidden and that destroys their inclusion into society.
+louie wallenberg You're not friends with unknown people in society. They don't fucking know you so when you make controversial jokes you're simply insulting strangers.
DarkTriad You're a jackass. Get a sense of humor. :3
Big Think gets a 1+ from me.
Pro free speech is always the best thing to do.
I've never cared for her comedy (it doesn't offend me in the slightest - I just don't laugh when I hear it) but goddamn do I respect her views.
A Witty Username what do you mean, you don't find comedy funny?? Then what makes you laugh???....
EirikXL
Selective reader much ? reread his comment without editing.
writerconsidered Wow, I think you just blew my mind! (or he edited his original post).
Finally Think Big posts something that's right on the money
I'm a fresh starting comedian and this really helps me understand the topic of political correctness in comedy. I've been defending comedians from people who demanded political correctness in comedy and its nice to see I'm not alone especially if the great lisa lampinelli agrees
I've been saying this for some time now; "Funny deserves to be funny, even if you're offended..."
This person gets it. Now if only more people will listen.
I love Lisa Lampanelli!!
Very funny comedian, and very insightful.
'If I can't make a funny, i'm not gonna make them sit through it'
Ironically the funniest line of Lisa's career.
People who can dish it our but can't take it are really just insecure, and that's unfortunate for them. They have some issues to resolve within themselves and I wouldn't keep pushing it.
Lisa you are looking great! Also great insights.
political correctness is the scapegoat for uncreative comedians.
find me a video where a comedian is pulled off the stage for being offensive with their jokes.
Many comedians have been attacked because they said something on tv that the progressives could not handle.
It's real and it's scary.
sheepwshotguns
Specifically conservative socially retarded comedians are the ones complaining about people being PC.
They don't know how to tell dangerous jokes without being a bully at the same time...
Theirs a difference between a "racial" joke and a "racist" joke.
Louis CK is a pro comedian and does it right.
wildshape
Who? Where?
sheepwshotguns Plenty of comedians get harassed after a show because someone in the audience got butthurt when they feel they've been insulted by the act. It's rare to see someone get heckled on a big special or something because they get edited afterwards, but it's definitely a thing that happens.
GRiMHOLD No, my friend, every talented comedian is complaining about it.
I never saw a comedian being thrown out of the stage for being offensive, neither the conservative and socially retarded ones in minority neighborhoods. But i've seen PC comedians being kept from presenting at comedies because of assholes who think their feelings are special.
A good offensive joke is one that makes a connection to the audience in a way that makes your intentions clear. If the audience isn't laughing then you failed at making that connection.
I admit that too many people actively work against it when the comedian tries to establish this connection, but there are also too many "comedians" who don't understand the inner mechanics of their craft and think only the audience is to blame when it comes to offensive jokes.
The key to comedy is the connection with your audience. If you have that, then you can joke about anything and you'll get the laughs you deserve.
Lisa seems to understand that.
oO PPH Oo I don't think it matters, a joke is a joke, funny or not.
Victor Martelle THE most important thing about a joke is if it's funny, so of course it matters
oO PPH Oo We are talking about offensiveness in jokes...
Victor Martelle Read the first 4 words in my OP. We're talking about making offensive jokes funny. The two are not mutually exclusive at all, but the funny part is by far the most important part. That requires a connection with your audience... That's true for for any joke but the stakes are higher for offensive jokes.
oO PPH Oo You're taking about "good offensive jokes." As I said and as the video explained, a joke is a joke. It can be offensive and end up not being funny, who cares?
I love this 1one, it speaks upon what is just the greatest ways of being able to really do so great things in comedy and what it can mean to be a comedy-on; so thank you guys, for picking such a great person and that of what is being able to shear her shine
Humor and comedy have a range of functions: to unmask and expose hypocrisy, to enable catharsis (as Lampanelli points out in the 911 example), or to provide insight into tacit cultural assumptions -- but also to legitimize dominance and superiority. Example? Any type of joke that denigrates another group. That said, Dinesh D'Souza popularized the use of the term PC in the way it's commonly used today. You can decide for yourself whether or not you want to line up with people like him.
So good to hear her say this!
Truer words have never been spoken.
Old person jokes, GO! Just kidding (or not?). I totally agree with you, Lisa. My best friends and some of my family members make fun of me because of who I am and how I act, but they are the most sincere ones.
Some people seem to think even making a joke about an 'icky' topic (rape, tragedies such as 9/11, etc...) in and of itself, without the actual joke's potential shocking or horrific material, is bad. What world do we live in when people think it's bad to make light of a topic AT ALL ? I agree with Miss Lampanelli, making light of... problematic topics, is one of the best ways to get the gears turning and start a proper conversation on those topics, if only by lessening people's fear of saying things wrong and allowing a more free-flowing exchange.
Spot on the money. Love Lisa.
I agree with most of this. The only part I don't agree on is that a lot of college students are offended. They really are offended and that is why college administrators are afraid of offending them.
Doug Stanhope, that man is awesome, totally respect that kind of comedy. You have to be brave to stand up against the pc hive mind.
Doug is awesome.
Pity she didn't mention him (at least I didn't hear her do so).
BuickGirl1986 Bill Blur too. He has a similar act.
Jenkkimie yea there are a few, he kind of reminds me of Bill Hicks too.
BuickGirl1986 Indeed. I have always valued comedy that is clever and in good taste. I have a very good sense of humor and I am a layman comedian myself although I rarely get time enough to perform locally because of my studies in university.
But I do not have issues with different forms of comedy even if I do not always get them myself and I am no stranger to offensive comedy, because I like comedy that is related to myself even or directly about myself. Obviously it is not what I use on wider audiences but it is still a form of comedy that I can accept.
unlike SWJs and many feminists, this woman understands what comedy is about
Now do a panel with Žižek! :D
Her standup is hit or miss for me, but she's definitely one of the better female comedians out there like her or not and she's spot on here.
This woman gets it.
Wow she really slimmed down, props to her.
Comedians are some of the few people that can be real and not worry about being fired. They are the only people speaking truth in this country right now. AND we still attack them like they are an elected official and not someone trying to be funny. please be offended and tell everyone you are so we know who you are.
This is one of the holy grails in life, stop taking yourself so serious, I have disabled dad and am mixed race and I have made fun of it as long I can remember :')
There's a big difference between politically correct and degrading a culture because another group thinks it's funny.
EH CBunny yes they are the exact opposite of eachother....
Wonder why many comedians do not know the difference?
EH CBunny Actually, no there's not. Simply suggesting there is doesn't make it so.
Also I have a feeling the guy above that replied to you was being sarcastic.
Well there is not, possibly everything is offensive to somebody. It's a problem that seems eternal. This is a genuine challenge not intended as a "gotcha" move.
Can you tell me a joke that can not be interpreted as offensive a given group.
EH CBunny No there is not. PC by definition is censorship of speech based on artificially decided offences. If you look at comedy and get offended then you are the person with the problem. Some forms of comedy rely on shock value and being offensive, the form of comedy I am talking about relies on breaking the barriers of what we would generally consider as very offensive things to say.
Jerry Seinfeld noted that he will not perform at any University because PC there and it is killing comedy. Indeed the problem with PC and any form of censorship is that it will eventually lead to the same conclusion that it is within North Korea or even worse. Now how is this funny to you?
It IS the college administration/professors. Fear/P.C.=Censorship.
Taboo/black comedy is great because it points out elements of absurdity within sensitive topics, not because it "makes light of them". Racist jokes are funny because racist beliefs are absurd, not because racism isn't really that big a deal. I also don't understand her rationale for why every person with a physical handicap must be cool with cripple jokes, all because one guy in a wheelchair had a sense of humor about it. It's like assuming that every person in a wheelchair is part of a hivemind or some nonsense.
I adore dark comedy. But the notion that comedy is amoral/apolitical is blatantly ignorant.
I disagree with suggestion that it's not the students who are the easily offended ones. Sure, it's the faculty too, but I think the biggest part is the students (mostly the ones in social sciences) have learned that they can basically take control of entire campuses by claiming that everything they dislike is "threatening" to them, thereby forcing the school to take action regardless of the complaint.
I call it Title IX culture.
Hey Lisa! Haven't heard Italian stereotypes coming from you. That's your no go zone.
Well, laughter is the greatest medicine, after all, so why not?
This is beautiful
is this a video in response to Jerry Seinfeld's recent comments?
She has lost a lot of weight since I was following clips of her a few years ago.
great comedian
You're supposed to be offended, that's what free speech is all about
"I'm not creative or clever enough to make jokes that don't offend people and my job is hard now." -Lisa Lampanelli
I'm female and Lisa Lampanelli has never been funny...?
Dude she's never been funny. Like ever.
yawn have fun on tumblr cray cray
If you don't want offend anyone:
- say nothing
- do nothing
- be nothing
I thought by the title that this was gonna talk about the pc gamers I now realize it's talking about P.C not PC. Got my hopes up.
1) She's a lot more intellectual than I ever thought. 2) Damn she's lost a lot of weight. Good for her.
Nicely said :)
To everyone watching this, this ONLY applies to COMEDIANS! If you're in your workplace or in high school, there are boundaries and there should be!
Yea repeating stereotypes just makes everyone a great friend, but not really. Most humor is actually cruel and mostly for those that the joke is not about to feel superior at the expense of others It's not a coincidence that those most privileged have the most to laugh about with these jokes.
This is difficult because getting the tone right is so hard. You should be able to joke about anything. But you shouldn't be able to ridicule innocent minorities in a way that actually adds to prejudice. Only very subtle changes in delivery can make a joke that builds rapport and camaraderie into a joke that tells people they are superior and supports their prejudice. So like all things in life, it's about judgement - mainly the judgement of the audience to only point out problems based on all factors, not just topics or words.
She understands humour.
She's not funny, but she's right.
"Sarah Jessica Parker is ugly". Yea really courageous social commentary there.
So true!
While I agree with the title, I don't see Lampanelli's "comedy" as remarkably offensive. Quite the opposite, really. It's cool that she wants to be a cheerleader for what better comedians are doing though.
Well if anyone is going to talk about PC then Lampanelli is the girl to go to.
Who in their right mind actually thinks A-hole is a term of endearment? Reminds me of my severely confused ex-GF who had endured all sorts of emotional abuse at the hands of her a-hole husband.
I disagree. Most white people aren't being made fun of in comedy acts in the same manner other racial or ethnic groups are.Generally highlighting negative stereotypes. Bashing political correctness only shows a lack of comedic talent and creativity.
Time to rustle some jimmies.
I do believe that comedy takes power away from serious subjects and i support that comedy. Shock/alternative comedians reach for the low fruit and reenforce stereotypes, which i dont support.
In my opinion comedians should be making fun of stereotypes and the absurdity of the system that makes stereotypes possible.
Being a bully is no longer fun. Get a new job.
I think George Carlin was the one who really kicked 'offensive comedy' off and made it an avenue to address these kind of topics noone was comfortable talking about, Theres also a fine line between using offensive comedy constructively and just being an asshole.
Alright, I agree with 99% of what Lisa just said.
I notice a neat trick, where she includes herself in a list of very successful comics. I'm not exactly sure where Lisa is on an IRL comedy ranking, but Seinfeld and Louie are comedy geniuses in their field. Maybe it's the intercut with the somewhat tired joke of "SJP looks like a horse". Another clip with some more "edgy" material would have been an improvement and actually relevant to the argument she's trying to make.
Now, the 1% I disagree on with Lisa is about the current generation. At least in Europe, the newest generation of the liberal left-left has become a bunch of vegetarian/vegan, whiny PC cunts.
Lisa would get press, but it'd be the "why do successful women have to tear each other down? Lisa sets feminism back 20 years" kind.
I do love Lisa on the Comedy Central Roast pannels, and am probably gonna go check out one of her programs now.
I agree so I liked.
PREACH
BS, this is like socially accepted bullying, I prefer to remain excluded, thank you
littlesometin Damn right! If something offends you it should be censored.
Pwasma Dwagon You're so nice and compassionate. I see comedy does wonders for you.
Pwasma Dwagon Nonsense. littlesometin should have a safe-space full of play-dough and pictures of puppies for each time she is a victim of this 'bullying'.
Either that or she can grow up.
Ian Powy So from the things that I have said, you have taken 'you think that it is mature to laugh at jokes'?
Re-read the post where I say 'grow up' and then ask yourself if you have made a decent assessment of my position.
Right so, the way that I see it is that there are responses to hearing a joke that you are the butt of; two are 'mature' and, thankfully, the norm and the third is the product of a silly hyper-offended culture of, typically, young university students.
Let's imagine that it is me that is the butt of the joke. I am pretty short for a male, so let's say that it is my height that is being made fun of. Here are the three responses:
1. 'Ouch! Touche! That was a zinger and whilst I am laughing because it was funny... fuck you!'
2. 'Hmm, I get the joke, but the thing that you said isn't actually true. If anyone is interested I will tell you why you are wrong.'
3. 'Mmwah!! Bullying! Oppression! Shut up! Someone shut that bully up! You are a *****ist! I am a victim of social violence!.......etc'.
I kind of have ideal when it comes to people and its part of why i love Lisa as a comedian, not all her jokes make me laugh but that does not mean they aren't funny to other people. If you cant laugh at yourself you shouldn't laugh at other people. i think Lisa embodies this idea, many times i have watched her on celebrity roasts. she says some mean things and i love it, she takes shots at herself putting herself down but still laughing, people take some brutal shots at her and she loves it. she has made jokes like her fucking alot, just like amy schumer but unlike amy, when a 17 year old makes a slut joke, Lisa will laugh
Damn, Lampanelli changed.
Glorious PC Gaming Master Race !
I think there needs to be a better nuanced conversation about being "PC", instead of the constant black and white issue the anti-PC people seem to be making out of it. The anti-PC crowd seems to think that others giving their opinions on why they don't like certain "jokes" is anti-free speech. But it's the very definition of free speech to give out your opinion. Some "offensive" jokes I find funny, some I actually find offensive. Why is that so bad? How is that so hard to understand? Why can you say you like it, while others get bullied by the anti-PC crowd for saying they didn't like it? Personally I think it's projection from the anti-PC crowd. THEY are the ones that DON'T want to face others opinions, then hide behind being "anti-PC" so they don't really have to deal with others opinions.
Aww, not too crazy about the french ? :(
Come at us, sister !
Stanhope? What?!
If nothing is off limits, then why don't Jewish comics like Seinfeld crack jokes about the 400+ children killed by the Israeli incursion into Gaza in 2014? Jewish comedians always rely on the tried-and-true (and safe) stereotypes of Jewishness. Why.
You can't maintain a victim complex if you don't get offended.
The moment you laugh is the moment you lose your ability to use your personal issue as a tool to garner attention and sympathy. It's harder to ride through life without a sob story that you make sure everyone knows.
Is this big think of an advert for a comedian?
Patrice o'neal made her cry.
crookedcorner Because he took the last donut?
crookedcorner Good.
crookedcorner LOL i remember that... he exposed her! RIP
blucifer000 wait wut what happened?
crookedcorner Tell us please.
The enemy of social progress? Now that's a joke. Surely putting up with political correctness at the expense of comedy is better than putting up with institutional racism and homophobia that existed before political correctness.
I miss her long hair. What's with this "skinny chic" new look? Laaame.
wtf does P.C. mean?
Political Correctness
Alex Moore thy
so P.C. is an important structure we all have to orient on
wow she got a heck of alot older since i last saw her
The Sarah Jessica Parker-horse jokes are getting old. She's been hearing them since she was a foal.
Hmm. The SJP jokes were ok. But they werent really that relevant to the topic
And now how this matches up with one of your previous videos where a woman explains - quite eloquently by the way - that making gay jokes is not ok? Think big think :P
this video is about to trigger so many tumblr people its not even funny
I legit love this!!!
Wow she lost A LOT of weight. I hardly recognize her.
A female comedian who's actually funny? Wat?
Hey butt dart champions!
Hey f&$k faces , this means that I like all of you
viva la France
see this.
all funny comes from the same place. If u cant take it..........Dont buy a fucking ticket
Dear Big Think, I Love You, But The Gay Jokes Just Aren't Funny Anymore.
amirite?
337 Lol.....ha.