How the Xbox 360 Hypervisor Security was Defeated | MVG

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  • @Petar321_GT
    @Petar321_GT 5 лет назад +2553

    I know this is random, but thanks for porting Doom on the PSP!

    • @ChaseMC215
      @ChaseMC215 5 лет назад +29

      He did that along time ago

    • @antblaster9k
      @antblaster9k 5 лет назад +22

      did his port have music? the one i found didnt

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 5 лет назад +49

      @@ChaseMC215 still needs recognition

    • @Petar321_GT
      @Petar321_GT 5 лет назад +24

      @@antblaster9k unfortunately no but it was amazing back then

    • @kenrickkahn
      @kenrickkahn 5 лет назад +64

      This dude is a genius... He even did it with the switch! This dude is so good I think he can port Doom to a toaster with no problems.. He's a master at coding and hacking..

  • @MrMario2011
    @MrMario2011 5 лет назад +408

    Getting those RGH boot timings down can be a fine art and a test of patience. I've had systems be in range of anywhere from instaboot to 5 minutes, which is why I always loved the JTAG. No fuss, no timings to mess with! Excellent video, my dude.

    • @tjrizvi251
      @tjrizvi251 5 лет назад +7

      THIS IS WHY IT DOESNT LOAD IMMEDIATELY. Thanks

    • @maxpawa9282
      @maxpawa9282 5 лет назад +4

      @Arnold101Knight it depends which chip you are using. if you were using the hardware from xecuter, the boots times wasn't that good, in my case.

    • @maxpawa9282
      @maxpawa9282 5 лет назад +6

      The squirt 360 was the best chip, boot within 30sec

    • @joshgrounds1021
      @joshgrounds1021 5 лет назад +4

      My rgh is instant.

    • @Brando56894
      @Brando56894 5 лет назад +7

      Yep once you had your JTAG in place, it was as simple as pressing the power button to launch the modded dash, or press the eject button with power off to boot into XeLL

  • @ERROR_-_404
    @ERROR_-_404 5 лет назад +665

    *Bank gets robbed without anyone noticing because of a security issue
    MVG: "mistakes were made"

    • @Iliek
      @Iliek 5 лет назад +25

      Software piracy is not theft.

    • @TheCandoRailfan
      @TheCandoRailfan 5 лет назад +5

      @jlstugart04 it should be.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 5 лет назад +19

      @jlstugart04 Legality and morality are independent quantities. Many things which are moral are illegal and many things which are legal are immoral.

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman 5 лет назад +19

      @jlstugart04 Game piracy isn't truly illegal. It's immoral yes, but it doesn't directly contribute to a loss. Pirates generally don't buy anyways; if they truly wanna support, they will buy. Even in the case of people refusing to buy, it's most likely because of their financial conditions.
      Just because you were born in a shitty ass country with low salary, doesn't mean you don't deserve to enjoy some games to avert eyes from their current shitty life.
      If consoles have better region pricing, people from lower income countries would also buy games legit. But bruh, some countries have like $300 average salary but $60 game and some extra on tax. I don't mind third worlders pirating not gonna lie. First worlders that earn 10x the salary a month though should support the dev.

    • @mimmmmi104
      @mimmmmi104 4 года назад +2

      He isnt wrong

  • @modermonkula
    @modermonkula 5 лет назад +252

    Some seriously skilled people out there in the hacking community.
    No matter how secure you think your code is, there will be someone out there that can beat it.

    • @hammerheadcorvette4
      @hammerheadcorvette4 5 лет назад +7

      Red team / Blue team. Black Hat / White Hat we need them all. Companies are really negligent when it comes to our data. It's unfortunate

    • @ChiekoGamers
      @ChiekoGamers 5 лет назад +18

      I believe that there is a always someone from the hacking/modding community that works from Microsoft/Sony.

    • @sedatmehmed4371
      @sedatmehmed4371 4 года назад +7

      @randomguy8196 Yet people don't understand it. And the task of the security is not to be unhackable at all it is just to make it hard and take a lot of time and efforts so it doesn't worth for the average consumer. So Microsoft won this battle - most people olay legit copies of the games

    • @WellBeSerious12
      @WellBeSerious12 4 года назад +3

      Haha, you said "beat it".

    • @itsPonkulz
      @itsPonkulz 4 года назад +2

      @randomguy8196 Security is to buy time.

  • @eyesofnova
    @eyesofnova 5 лет назад +93

    The engineering behind the Xbox 360 security was quite ingenius. I must commend Microsoft engineers for very very creative security.

    • @GlitchedPepsi
      @GlitchedPepsi 5 лет назад +2

      Lmfao

    • @JohnnyReb1976
      @JohnnyReb1976 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah, those RRODs worked perfectly.

    • @chromeheartsonme
      @chromeheartsonme Год назад

      @@JohnnyReb1976 RRODs had nothing to do with security idiot, RRODs were because of the cpu.

    • @ThatPianoNoob
      @ThatPianoNoob Год назад +2

      ​@@JohnnyReb1976I mean.. nothing beats homebrew like a system that stops working for completely different reasons.

    • @safetyzone2962
      @safetyzone2962 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@JohnnyReb1976 That was actually a TSMC manufacturing defect, the only thing Microsoft could've potentially done is powered the consoles on and off when they reached the target temps before launch. At least they actually fixed them for free unlike Sony's yellow light of death which they would charge for if it was out of warranty, which was only like 90 days, 1/12th the warranty of the 360 (3 years).

  • @EuropeanMapper
    @EuropeanMapper 5 лет назад +856

    Do you guys remember the old days when by just one sd card and a file you could hack your wii and play unlimited games

    • @lolcat
      @lolcat 5 лет назад +115

      Letter bomb was easier. Didn't even need a supported game.

    • @PenguinCinema
      @PenguinCinema 5 лет назад +82

      With an unpatched switch now it's a micro SD and a paperclip

    • @austinismadcrunk
      @austinismadcrunk 5 лет назад +17

      @@PenguinCinema Paperclip would be a bitch. Took forever to get my 3D-printed RCM jig to even work so I set autoRCM after 2 or 3 uses.

    • @hellacia8151
      @hellacia8151 5 лет назад +13

      @@PenguinCinema Never use a paperclip. Hard, scratchy metal and joycon pins dont go well together.

    • @itza8334
      @itza8334 5 лет назад +5

      Never had a wii, but i'm getting my first Xbox360 so i can play some exclusive games like Rumble Rose XX, DOA4 etc.

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat 5 лет назад +131

    Their protection lasted exactly as long as they needed it to, it really was a fantastic piece of security.
    Except for the dvd back, that was just dumb, what were they thinking?

    • @chachaboy2
      @chachaboy2 2 года назад +17

      Their protection still somewhat lasts. There is still no softmod out that works on any recent version. Only one, and that was patched pretty quickly (EDIT: also, that one softmod is also super old). If you want a modded Xbox 360, your only choice is a hardmod, and it's going to stay like that for years to come.

  • @Merudiana-the-local-demoness
    @Merudiana-the-local-demoness 5 лет назад +229

    Linux is like Skyrim, it’ll eventually run on anything

    • @retropcs88
      @retropcs88 5 лет назад +43

      More like doom

    • @edwingonzalez7691
      @edwingonzalez7691 5 лет назад +10

      @@retropcs88 the both of you guys just blew my brains

    • @yourick1953
      @yourick1953 5 лет назад +2

      hell yeah skyrim on gameboy

    • @retropcs88
      @retropcs88 5 лет назад +1

      @@yourick1953 knowyourmeme.com/photos/1281547-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim

    • @P7777-u7r
      @P7777-u7r 4 года назад +9

      I want to see linux on something like a gameboy or DS

  • @renakunisaki
    @renakunisaki 5 лет назад +963

    Imagine if companies put this much effort into securing our machines for us, instead of from us...

    • @the9file
      @the9file 5 лет назад +47

      Profound.

    • @faceplants2
      @faceplants2 5 лет назад +122

      It's much harder to secure a machine that the attackers all have physical access to. They probably could make an almost unhackable computer but it would be so limited in features it would be like using a console/iPhone as your main PC. Every bit of software that runs on it has to be approved by them etc.
      All this is what makes console modding so much fun.

    • @Fennecbutt
      @Fennecbutt 5 лет назад +65

      Except that if say Microsoft release a fully open console, expect to pay many times as much for it as you usually would. They protect it because the price of the hardware is subsidised by the games they sell. If people pirate games...then they make a loss. If people don't play games and use for linux etc...they make a loss.
      It's completely fair, imo.

    • @KyudoKun
      @KyudoKun 5 лет назад +10

      @@Fennecbutt well said

    • @ianr.1225
      @ianr.1225 5 лет назад +30

      @@Fennecbutt Except that there DVD exploit which was discovered much earlier and never really fixed already allowed piracy. All of the effort put into making and defeating hypervisor exploits was about homebrew.

  • @tdtellem
    @tdtellem 5 лет назад +151

    I wouldn't call the 360 a dead system.
    Phil Spencer himself even said that there are at least 10 million Xbox 360 players online to this day.

    • @hammerheadcorvette4
      @hammerheadcorvette4 5 лет назад +36

      Majority of those are in "Developing Nations" & that's cool. Games are usually made for consles 3 yrs after U.S end of life

    • @SgtMjRomero
      @SgtMjRomero 5 месяцев назад +1

      Unfortunately, we are now more than 5 years into the future...

    • @tdtellem
      @tdtellem 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@SgtMjRomero and it had a fantastic run.
      Even though the game store is the only thing closing down.
      The online functions are still intact.

    • @ChrisTian-sd5yq
      @ChrisTian-sd5yq 19 дней назад

      Red ring: aight

  • @samsurace5713
    @samsurace5713 5 лет назад +80

    The era of JTAGs and MW2 was amazing, feel lucky to have been there lol.

    • @cartoonhead4082
      @cartoonhead4082 5 лет назад +3

      The golden days of jtags and cod 4/mw2 :D

    • @RGInquisitor
      @RGInquisitor 5 лет назад +13

      Yep, joining a random lobby, getting a kill and suddenly you're Prestige 10 with everything unlocked....

    • @samsurace5713
      @samsurace5713 5 лет назад +8

      @@RGInquisitor I dont think a console game was ever hit by modding as hard as mw2 was with jtags. Definitely not on xbox at least

    • @rw2954
      @rw2954 5 лет назад

      AlterIWNet was king.

    • @RGInquisitor
      @RGInquisitor 5 лет назад +1

      @@samsurace5713 Indeed! The thing I liked the most is that most of the modded lobbies you happened by weren't used to screw with people; they were fun! I remember one lobby, the only map in circulation was Highrise and the game had little gravity, so if you jumped you would practically fly off the map, and players ran very fast too! If you ran too much, you would either fall off the sides of the map to your death or you would bounce off of something and fly to your doom. The score limit was only 5 kills, and the only usable class was with a .44 Magnum with a tac-knife, Marathon Pro, Commando Pro, and Lightweight Pro.
      My friends and I had so much fun in that lobby that we were really disappointed when it was shut down...

  • @ElectoTinkerer
    @ElectoTinkerer Год назад +1

    I am not much of a gamer, but I love these video's on defeating the security

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock 5 лет назад +193

    Love this series. Please do something on XBOX One too.

    • @KarlRock
      @KarlRock 5 лет назад +36

      Ps. I know it's not hacked. That's what is interesting and annoying about it.

    • @zararashraf
      @zararashraf 5 лет назад +8

      @@KarlRock XB1 nhi chaye, PS4 ka hack chaye. :D

    • @nathanlamaire
      @nathanlamaire 4 года назад +23

      Xbox One pulled most hackers out with their Dev mode, and Microsoft security team is much larger than Sony, even that the OS of PS4 is based on open-source softwares, it is still need to be maintained by Sony team themselves.

    • @JoshuaUTvlogs
      @JoshuaUTvlogs 4 года назад +5

      It’s never been hacked

  • @Crazy-qi1gw
    @Crazy-qi1gw 4 года назад +12

    6:09 "It controls all the power functions,
    controls the fans,
    handles system resets
    and various other commands."
    Straight bars

    • @mysticaxolotl8215
      @mysticaxolotl8215 5 месяцев назад

      Top 10 rappers Eminem was too afraid to diss

  • @MisterPikol
    @MisterPikol 5 лет назад +4

    I love the fact that you're not just a random youtuber covering the known stuff, but you also have the skills to back you up, like coding etc.

  • @Annubis21
    @Annubis21 5 лет назад +6

    I quite enjoy your retrospectives, they're excellent and very chill. I'd also like to thank you for all the joy your emulator ports have brought me. Your work probably brings more comfort than anyone will ever know.

  • @user-yw9fm7kb1s
    @user-yw9fm7kb1s 5 лет назад +5

    Dude you are so amazing. I'm having flashbacks from when I was 15, and did my first jtag. I just found your channel and you have inspired me to dust off my console and redo the HDD and organize the files.
    I STILL have my launch console Xenon jtag. Obviously it RROD'd, but I had it reballed.

  • @MaxPrehl
    @MaxPrehl 3 года назад +2

    These security retrospectives are some of your best content MVG. Especially with how hard it is becoming to find old forum threads and such. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @TheRussell747
    @TheRussell747 5 лет назад +9

    I absolutely love these videos about how the security measures of systems were bypassed. So thank you.

  • @aw4483
    @aw4483 5 лет назад +98

    "we love our customers and want our consoles to be used forever"
    *spends millions to ensure the console is garbage in 10 years*
    "our consoles are dying extremely quickly and nobody can use them"
    *weak-ass extended warranty and plugging their ears*

    • @windowsxpnt2347
      @windowsxpnt2347 29 дней назад

      This is with consoles nowadays. The 360 was made with the idea that while you can use Xbox live and go online with it, you can still quite happily use a 360 without ever connecting it to the internet

  • @Astranix59
    @Astranix59 Год назад +5

    Never change this into music, it’s too iconic

  • @PaulMeranda
    @PaulMeranda 5 лет назад +23

    oh hahah- saw this in my home feed and thought it was an old video! i love that phrase, too, tho: Mistakes Were Made. streamer Vinesauce uses it a lot, so its cemented in my consciousness. anyway, thanks for all your hard work, friend!

  • @MulkaMan
    @MulkaMan 5 лет назад +65

    Soldered my first JTAG in late 2009 on my falcon board 360.
    It died pretty fast with a RROD. I just sold it off because I didn't want to spend any time or money to get it reballed.
    Then in early 2010 I bought a premade jtagged 360 with a jasper board and that is still working to this day.
    I even drilled a hole on top of the case to add a fan that draws in air into the case. I also replaced the back fan with 2 noiseblocker 60mm fans.
    Now it is almost completely silent and runs much cooler than with just the stock fan.

    • @itza8334
      @itza8334 5 лет назад +2

      How cool though, like what temperature in Idle and with heavy usage ?

    • @thefox17906
      @thefox17906 5 лет назад +6

      Why do that with a Jasper? They’re arguably the best cooler of the entire Xbox line up and stay pretty cool either way.

    • @kvltizt
      @kvltizt 5 лет назад +8

      @@thefox17906 Because it won't sound like a jet taking off and because it's fun to mod stuff even if it isn't a necessary mod.

    • @kvltizt
      @kvltizt 5 лет назад +4

      Also, better cooling generally means longer hardware life.

    • @thefox17906
      @thefox17906 5 лет назад

      Well if you have any experience with the phat consoles you’d know the stock fans for the Jasper/falcon v2 can be put to 40% iirc which meant it was quiet and still stayed below 60*c. Adding extra fans is just unnecessary

  • @Josh.Davidson
    @Josh.Davidson 5 лет назад +22

    Some corrections:
    - The JTAG hack was not patched until Summer 2009 when the 8XXX kernel was released which overwrites the CB.
    - Zephyr, Falcon, Opus, and Jasper are all able to be JTAG'd using slightly different wiring, either using ROL or AUD_CLAMP (assuming 7371 or below). The Kronos motherboard shipped with a patched CB, which patched the SMC hack. Some Kronos have been found that were not patched, though.
    - The lower left port on the Xenon board is not the CPU JTAG port, but the Southbridge/SMC LED JTAG port. This is why on Zephyr and later when most of this port was removed, one of the wires goes to the Ring of Light instead. The CPU JTAG port is J8C1, on the upper right of the board.
    - The Reset Glitch Hack can be made very reliable, depends on install, tuning, and chip used. RGH1.2 can instaboot Falcon, Jasper, and Kronos on latest dashes. S-RGH can instaboot Trinity and Corona. There isn't really a reason to use R-JTAG anymore because of that.

    • @L0tsen
      @L0tsen 10 месяцев назад

      Good to know

  • @bowser0897
    @bowser0897 5 лет назад +32

    "The King Kong Exploit" why is that phrase so funny to me 😂

    • @agustinvega8969
      @agustinvega8969 4 года назад

      BOWSER0897 thought I was the only one 🤣

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 5 лет назад +312

    Hmm, the Xbox 360 Hypervisor security is quite protective! 😇🤘🏻💕

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 5 лет назад +6

      Quite!

    • @ChaseMC215
      @ChaseMC215 5 лет назад +1

      Temperently, but as soon as you jailbroke the 360, Microsoft is far passed fuck!

    • @itryan7863
      @itryan7863 5 лет назад +1

      yep

    • @andreab5185
      @andreab5185 5 лет назад +8

      Without reset glitch bug it was impossible to hack x360 after updates with jtag fixes. So, yes, supervisor is very secure and effective and x360 a badass to hack. We had luck that reset glitch existed.

    • @MrSlowestD16
      @MrSlowestD16 5 лет назад +2

      The hypervisor isn't even the crazy part, that's pretty simple & straight forward. The crazy part is data encrypted on the bus's and the rom-on-chip. Those things are *very* hard to by-pass. Only other setup I've seen like that is the iPhone, and as far as I know that security hasn't been cracked yet. Even with the San Bernadino shooter and Apple was ordered to help the FBI, they were only able to allow unlimited tries & brute force, not crack the HW encryption.

  • @ryandavidsheasby4028
    @ryandavidsheasby4028 5 лет назад +12

    Great vid! Small correction though, I think you meant 16 Bits, not bytes when you were talking about the lockdown counter. 16 Bytes has way, way more possibilities than 4096.

  • @W1ldTangent
    @W1ldTangent 5 лет назад +1

    Bruh.. you are smart as hell and you make awesome synthwave spacejams... I don't sub to many channels, and get notifications for even less, but you're proudly one of them.

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593
    @pleasedontwatchthese9593 5 лет назад +177

    Fun conspiracy theory: xbox red ring was a anti piracy measure to replace hackable xboxes. (I joke but I thought it was funny)

    • @carlangelo653
      @carlangelo653 5 лет назад +50

      Funny enough we had a few modded and a single legit xbox, our single Legit Xbox was the only one to get RRD.

    • @ChaseMC215
      @ChaseMC215 5 лет назад +4

      @@carlangelo653
      Fan crapped out?

    • @h4z11s4
      @h4z11s4 5 лет назад +8

      @@ChaseMC215 Fan isn't always the case. Mine was rrod'ed just from sitting. I didnt even use it. After some weeks of sitting, I decided to play some and was greeted with an rrod. I opened the system up and it was clean. (I cleaned it before, as the disc tray belts were slipping and not opening the disc tray.)

    • @ChaseMC215
      @ChaseMC215 5 лет назад +2

      @@h4z11s4
      My disc drive is just stuck

    • @leodzepe
      @leodzepe 5 лет назад +6

      While it WOULD be funny, it was just terribly rushed engineering

  • @SwagveexShadow
    @SwagveexShadow 5 лет назад +1

    Why is your content so interesting everytime you never seem to bored me.

  • @TheUKNutter
    @TheUKNutter 5 лет назад +5

    4:01 People still play Ridge Racer 6 online, I’m not kidding. There’s a semi-active community that does weekly competitions on Saturdays :D But the main community races every day until 11pm EST!

  • @Lunascaped
    @Lunascaped 5 лет назад

    -Consistent Uploads
    -Stuff im interested in
    -Nice voice
    Yup, new favorite RUclipsr!

  • @VollkinSea
    @VollkinSea 5 лет назад +77

    Meanwhile the Nintendo switch has full Homebrew quicker than any modern console before

    • @joshgrounds1021
      @joshgrounds1021 5 лет назад +1

      Illuminati

    • @joshgrounds1021
      @joshgrounds1021 5 лет назад +3

      Nintendo is full of artards.

    • @Brando56894
      @Brando56894 5 лет назад +3

      I love hacking consoles and this one truly amazed me regard the pace and ease it was hacked. Trying to get into RCM without the use of a 3D printed jig is a massive pain in the ass, I managed to do it like 2x in about 2 weeks before my jig finally arrived.

    • @minecraftWithDanielD
      @minecraftWithDanielD 5 лет назад +5

      Perhaps it's an intentional thing. If it makes people wanna buy switches just so they can mess around with them, what's the harm in that. Heck, if there's one thing I enjoy, it's occasionally watching mod videos for Pokemon Let's Go. An open system, is a fun system

    • @findantu
      @findantu 3 года назад

      didint help the switch os is just on top of android like a shell.

  • @rshapiro6
    @rshapiro6 5 лет назад

    Man I really love these videos, they are the perfect balance of information and story without getting too technical.

  • @3bertface01
    @3bertface01 5 лет назад +3

    I love these videos - your knowledge of the intricacies of these systems is incredible and always blows me away, keep it up man!

  • @burning4revenge7861
    @burning4revenge7861 5 лет назад +5

    Love your videos man always so informative and the production is always amazing too.
    P.s love the intro song its so good.

  • @JasonTurner
    @JasonTurner 5 лет назад +4

    I absolutely love that the Xbox Original & 360 are STILL worth talking about in 2019! I was initially uncertain if Microsoft could pull of a console. Overall, they have done a fantastic job of competing in the console market through the years. Woot!

  • @robdsmith92
    @robdsmith92 5 лет назад

    Can I just say, I drop in and out of RUclipsrs depending on what I'm into at the time but I watch every single one of your videos. I never cared for Xbox but now I have an OG one to mod because of this channel

  • @guadalupevieyra9372
    @guadalupevieyra9372 5 лет назад +3

    I always loved tech but watching your vids really motivated me to change my major and really get into it. Thanks and bunch!!

  • @chuckblaze5147
    @chuckblaze5147 5 лет назад

    I just wanted to say that your intro music is so perplexing, I'm quite sure I've heard it somewhere outside of your other videos, yet it seems like you are the creator, or so your desc would suggest. It might be a newbie observation, but let me just say if that's so, you are massively talented all around! Keep up the good work. And if anyone's able to suggest where my deja vu comes from, I would be very appreciative :D

  • @Cinicraft00
    @Cinicraft00 4 года назад +3

    "Hypervisor" sounds like a cool ass word to tell your bosses at the meeting how unhackable your Xbox will be on launch.

  • @chaz__
    @chaz__ 5 лет назад +2

    4:38 Wow....the Blade Dashboard is timeless. I just took it for granted and didn't appreciate how good the UI design was. Way ahead of its time in 2005.

  • @aliabdallah102
    @aliabdallah102 5 лет назад +55

    "MVG has uploaded"
    *Happiness noise*

    • @HOWLWOLF
      @HOWLWOLF 5 лет назад +4

      [Husky happiness noise]

    • @NijiDash
      @NijiDash 5 лет назад +3

      *squee*

  • @net_news
    @net_news 5 лет назад

    amazing work man, this is videogame History at its best. Very hard to find all this info summarized and explained in such a good way.

  • @svenzo1199
    @svenzo1199 5 лет назад +10

    I'm early and can't think of a witty comment to make so I would just like to thank you for all these awesome videos and all the cool stuff you have done with homebrew over the years.

  • @mha53
    @mha53 4 года назад +1

    Your videos are simply AMAZING

  • @Hunglo90
    @Hunglo90 5 лет назад +7

    this explains why I had a king Kong copy that randomly showed up in my house that my nephew brought

  • @Tieigo0
    @Tieigo0 Год назад +2

    A few years later we have RGH 3.0 chipless insta-boot. Kinda tricky, but man, life is good.

    • @alexr6606
      @alexr6606 10 месяцев назад

      It’s amazing, I’ve actually just bought another RGH for a trip down memory lane. Got me into programming and now I do it as a profession

  • @topramenray
    @topramenray 5 лет назад +5

    Love your videos man! They're always so interesting to listen to👍

  • @Rick_Todd
    @Rick_Todd 5 лет назад +2

    I never knew back then, But would just like to say Thank You for your port of Mame 360 back when I got my 1st Jtag 360 many years ago.

  • @constancies
    @constancies 5 лет назад +56

    So... are you uploading every Monday now?

    • @not3oF
      @not3oF 5 лет назад

      No

    • @warwagon
      @warwagon 5 лет назад +1

      Sure seems like it

    • @pekswe8638
      @pekswe8638 5 лет назад +3

      he has been doing it for a few months i believe

  • @donrockwilder
    @donrockwilder 5 лет назад

    Always look forward to your videos Mondays. It makes my work day go by quicker!

  • @jasonmhite
    @jasonmhite 5 лет назад +6

    I think you meant that the lockdown counter is 16 *bits*, not bytes. Brute forcing 16 bytes is a LOT harder.

  • @__ash_____
    @__ash_____ Месяц назад

    It never ceases to amaze me the lengths people go to to mod their consoles.

  • @IngwiePhoenix_nb
    @IngwiePhoenix_nb 5 лет назад +5

    So King Kong - who, if i remember correctly, is a villain - saved the day for XBox homebrewers.
    I quite like this mental image of sorts. :3

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega 5 лет назад +1

      ‘Twas beauty that killed the beast

    • @Albert-lj5jb
      @Albert-lj5jb 5 лет назад

      Going by your logic, any wild animal caught and held in captivity is a villain...

  • @edenengland1883
    @edenengland1883 4 года назад +1

    "its hard to believe with modern gaming that the Xbox 360 only had 18 games at launch."
    PS5: *laughs in 1 game at launch*

  • @junior1388666
    @junior1388666 5 лет назад +9

    I was just playing my RGH 360 before watching this video. Awesome machine for emulation!

    • @cartoonhead4082
      @cartoonhead4082 5 лет назад

      So was i ;)

    • @thomasnewfield9950
      @thomasnewfield9950 5 лет назад

      What emus could you recommend?

    • @junior1388666
      @junior1388666 5 лет назад

      Thomas Newfield I use vba360 (gba), genesis plus 360 (genesis), fba next (arcade /cps1, 2 & 3), snes360 (snes) and pcsxr-360 2.1.0 v2 (ps1). They are pretty good and easy to set up.

  • @yukeitor
    @yukeitor 5 лет назад

    It's amazing how the community figured out all that. Great video

  • @SourceCodeDeleted
    @SourceCodeDeleted 5 лет назад +4

    Wow. I don't I could have come close to cracking that. Just insane!

  • @ptbunz2501
    @ptbunz2501 5 лет назад +1

    Another Great Video MvG, love the windjammers shirt as well!

  • @DerfJagged
    @DerfJagged 5 лет назад +3

    It may be worth noting that the reason that unsigned code was executed under the KK exploit, rather than just sitting as a regular asset file, was actually due to unsigned shader code being compiled at runtime rather than being distributed as an already compiled.
    Maybe in a bonus video you could talk about the burnable kiosk disc that was found very early on, which was burnable and bootable on retail consoles. It had a demo of King Kong, which is what spurred interest in the game for being a hack entry point and was blacklisted in an early dashboard update. Had the vulnerable code in the hypervisor been introduced on launch (instead of 4xxx), the first couple of dashboards could be completely exploited without even opening the console. The disc also had the game Hexic HD on it, which was found to be an Adobe Flash emulator for Xbox 360 that just ran the Hexic game. You could actually swap out the game with your own flash game and play it on a retail console! I had these events documented in the /r/360hacks "scene history" page with more details.

    • @RaysGamingChannel2003
      @RaysGamingChannel2003 Год назад +1

      Wait really? There’s a burnable Xbox 360 kiosk Disc?

    • @DerfJagged
      @DerfJagged Год назад

      @@RaysGamingChannel2003 Yup. Blacklisted from running in later dashboard updates.

  • @Harmonic14
    @Harmonic14 5 лет назад +2

    I think it's worth mentioning RGH 1.2. My Jasper arcade with RGH 1.2 boots extremely quickly - almost always a single digit number of seconds. Bridging the cap pins on a Coolrunner usually helps.

  • @VaughnJogVlog
    @VaughnJogVlog 5 лет назад +4

    Forever the “MISTAKES WERE MADE” guy.

  • @TheCD5150
    @TheCD5150 Год назад +2

    It's amazing that after nearly 2 decades since the Xbox 360 came out, it's security system still has not been breached when it comes to softmods like the PS3 and Wii. I would not be surprised if softmodding an Xbox 360 is actually impossible.

  • @XantheFIN
    @XantheFIN 5 лет назад +5

    Kameo was actually first made for original xbox.. there is even prototype on hiddenpalace to download for it but then moved to 360.

    • @benjib2691
      @benjib2691 3 года назад

      The development was even begun on the Gamecube, before Microsoft bought Rare. Also, the original Xbox version of Kameo is nearly complete, I think the only thing non working is the final boss battle. Else the entire game is playable

  • @timmyfingaz100
    @timmyfingaz100 Год назад +1

    That 1st time booting into Xell on a jtag from a few resistors and diodes, wasc worth the time it took to dump the nand via the old com/printer lead lol

  • @womptube
    @womptube 5 лет назад +13

    Was really looking forward to this episode. This is what intrigues me. Keep up the great hacking/homebrew based videos!

    • @Motleyguts
      @Motleyguts 5 лет назад

      I was hoping to see how the sausage is made but this'll do... this'll do.

  • @IscleGaming
    @IscleGaming 5 лет назад +2

    8:02 If the check is 16Bytes long, why does it only take 4096 tries to bruteforce it? That would be only 12bits, which is 1 and a 1/2 bytes!

    • @portalbob340sc
      @portalbob340sc 5 лет назад

      Was wondering the same thing myself, didn't quite follow what he meant by that.

  • @Bantorain93R
    @Bantorain93R 5 лет назад +3

    Woke up early somehow. Saw this posted.
    Today is going to be a good day.

  • @samipenicho
    @samipenicho 5 лет назад

    I've been waiting for this video for so long!! I love this series!

  • @wompastompa3692
    @wompastompa3692 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for making these videos. I live learning about weird niche histories like these and this series in particular got me in to the homebrew scene. I've even made a homebrew app (very basic script) for the Switch.
    EDIT: Also, XBox One hacks soon, maybe.

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 5 лет назад +1

      What an awesome channel. I love it and thos channel now has me hunting down ps2 and xbox originals now at goodwill and salvation armys locations so I can hack it and gift it to my young nephews that missed out on the older video games

  • @generfeld
    @generfeld 2 года назад

    amazing technical descriptions. incredible how people figure this stuff out.

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593
    @pleasedontwatchthese9593 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for making these videos. Your like the only one who mades videos of this quailty about it.

  • @curtisss
    @curtisss 5 лет назад

    I love this series so much, I went from seeing your vids around youtube to checking my sub box for your uploads within weeks! Thanks for the content

  • @shinypb
    @shinypb 5 лет назад +4

    I love these videos, and the "Mistakes Were Made" title gets me every time. 😂 Thanks for making 'em!

  • @rpgreseller
    @rpgreseller 5 лет назад

    All of that was remarkable from both sides. Thank you for putting this together.

  • @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
    @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 5 лет назад +19

    How does 16 byte translate to 4096 trys? Even if you confused bits and bytes in the script that won't match.

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega 5 лет назад

      Maybe accidentally did (2^8)*16 ?

    • @ferchuu9
      @ferchuu9 5 лет назад

      well, it must be 16 bits, so 2^16 equals 65536, which are not too many tries either

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru 5 лет назад

      I guess number of those fuses is 4096.

    • @shukterhousejive
      @shukterhousejive 5 лет назад

      If it's 16 bytes then it's a 128-bit key, which isn't what's in the script but it'd be an understandable key length back when the hardware was finalized circa 2004

    • @HarrisonMartinson
      @HarrisonMartinson 5 лет назад

      Good question.
      If I did my research and math right, 16 bytes can have 340,282,366,920,938,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different combinations, while 16 bits can have 65535. I'm more likely to be wrong about that bigger number, but frankly I don't care because even if it's 50 trillion off it wouldn't make much of a difference.
      You would have to divide 65535 by 16 to get to (roughly) 4096.
      Yep, doesn't make sense to me either. Perhaps there's something about hashes that we don't understand?

  • @cyphaborg6598
    @cyphaborg6598 4 года назад +2

    RROD was the best security measure ever.

  • @Abdega
    @Abdega 5 лет назад +4

    Efuses?
    How many available updates could even be possible with those?

    • @halofreak1990
      @halofreak1990 5 лет назад +2

      IIRC, the Xbox 360 CPU had over 700 of them from factory. That's plenty of room for updates

  • @replicant8532
    @replicant8532 5 лет назад

    Hello MVG. I just wanted to let you know that I love the content, level of technical insight and presentation. You are a great host, cheers mate.

  • @papadane6807
    @papadane6807 5 лет назад +8

    Great video!! I have a suggestion. I wanna know if you could make a video about ps4 and it’s security flaws. I’ve seen a jail broken ps4 and it is really cool.
    Thanks and have a good day.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru 5 лет назад

      Nothing special as far as i know. Just some javascript exploit stuff with full access.

  • @Cifra876
    @Cifra876 5 лет назад

    Just wanna say thank you for making this awesome content, it is atm one of the most enjoyable and interesting channels in my sub list.

  • @caoYB
    @caoYB 5 лет назад +3

    So I had my Xbox 360 in 2011? It came with R-JTAG? It boots very slow and indeed sometimes does not boot at all, then someday around 2013 it never boots up again, and I take it to a "dealer" to get it fix, after the "fix" it boots very quickly everything works just fine, anyone idea what kind hack is my Xbox 360 using?

  • @benjaminpapp3267
    @benjaminpapp3267 5 лет назад +1

    The legendary RGH and JTAG, thank for this awesome video, Awesome content as always,but this is more than that :)

  • @Notpoop906
    @Notpoop906 5 лет назад +5

    360 is one of my favorite all time consoles. The modding on 360 was always so much fun to do. Still got my Jtag jasper sat in my room

  • @sdmods619
    @sdmods619 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent material and great content Lantus! I enjoyed this video. So much time and money was wasted because of RRODs. I've done so many first gen JTAGs and had a good percentage of them come back with RROD and back again for re-repair. It's around this time I began to regret turning my hobby into a business. OG Xbox scene was probably the most fun I ever had. Modded 360s were awesome but watching your decked out 2TB xenon just die from RROD was heartbreaking. After that I did do RGHs but didn't continue my modshop past 2011 so missed out on RJTAG. The only remnant left I have is a trusty COD edition that has an XK3Y in it with 2TB HDD. No Homebrew or modded games but I'm ok with that. I have an Xarcade with 360 adapter I use with it for fighting games. My Hori RAP4 also works great with my 360 via Brooks converter.

  • @zach_c
    @zach_c 4 года назад +6

    "It requires only 4096 tries"
    ONLY four thousand and ninety-six tries.

    • @davidpayneii289
      @davidpayneii289 4 года назад +1

      Keep in mind that a computer doing something that many times is almost instantaneous. In a single second, the Xbox 360's CPU goes through 3,200,000,000 clock cycles, and it probably takes a fraction of just one of those clocks to try it that many times.

    • @zach_c
      @zach_c 4 года назад

      Hmm… good point

    • @cyphaborg6598
      @cyphaborg6598 4 года назад

      @@zach_c That's nothing for a CPU lol.

  • @david.viele.
    @david.viele. 5 лет назад

    just saw part 1 the other day and was looking forward to this video!

  • @quaintfalopa9724
    @quaintfalopa9724 5 лет назад +10

    i still use xbox360 in 2019

  • @chocobro7
    @chocobro7 5 лет назад

    Excellent video as always MVG!

  • @FaresMason
    @FaresMason 5 лет назад +6

    Let's go! I've been on this for a while the xbox 360 is my favorite console!

  • @KoopaMedia64
    @KoopaMedia64 5 лет назад

    I’ve waited a long time for this moment. These security exploit videos are awesome.

  • @HiHi-jh2uz
    @HiHi-jh2uz 5 лет назад +3

    Thumbnail:
    Shows original Xbox 360
    “Mistakes were made”
    Me: That could mean one of two things, take a guess what they are.

  • @infamousxx
    @infamousxx 5 лет назад

    I still have a 2005 with the blades menu, so many memories of burning, jtag, spoofing custom fw to different drives etc...

  • @KermRiv
    @KermRiv 5 лет назад +5

    Security
    *exists*
    Hackers
    "I'm about to end this man's whole career"

  • @GolDGreg
    @GolDGreg 5 лет назад +1

    I didn’t know I needed this video in my life until today

  • @jaz093
    @jaz093 5 лет назад +5

    Now security is baked into the CPU, good luck reverse engineering a CPU. If Microsoft has done everything correctly, it's going to be really hard to hack the Xbox one. I think we got lucky with the 360.

    • @XENON2028
      @XENON2028 3 года назад

      we dont need to hack the xbox one
      the dev tools are right there, its called dev mode.

  • @FR4M3Sharma
    @FR4M3Sharma 5 лет назад

    Love the "Aesthetical" music seems pretty good for these type of videos.

  • @superstars6175
    @superstars6175 5 лет назад +6

    Hmmm, what about Xbox One? 🤔
    I mean.... the PS4 got jailbroken, so what about Xbox One?

  • @jakewilder9093
    @jakewilder9093 5 лет назад

    i love these type of videos! It makes it so much easier just to send someone a link to your informational video if they wanna know the history!