Great test and clear view on how these tires differ in feel and all out performance! Sounds like Goodyear is back as a good option for high performance cars where Michelin has been dominating in recent years! Nothing better than competition to drive development forwards! :)
We need a budget semislick comparison! Nankang ns2r vs federal RS-R or RS-PRO vs Zestino. Yokohama neova ad08r Vs R888R Nankang AR1 or similar. Please!
@@pmrrmm i know, but ad08r works very very good, they are comparable, in fact, they are better than r888 because this ones doesnt resist very good the temperature, they overhear too fast.
Im running Asymetric 5 front and SUpersports back on a F31 335xd and love them! Always been a Potenza guy until I bought this car second hand with this ones, which Im keeping for future tyrechanges. Great content m8te!
@@tyrereviews Thanks for all your vids and hard work, it's much appreciated. I still 'feel' as though the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's are just about (and not by as much of a great deal as the Pilot Supersport was over its competition) the industry standard as the UHP tire of choice. Just my 2 cents having sampled a few and ultimately, tire wear was my deciding factor but there really is no outstanding compromise between the Michelin's, Goodyear's and Conti's 6.
@@frankie_wmg Don't forget the PS4S are only made in 19" and above....so there is a gaping hole in the market for 18" wheels on high performance cars and I think this is where the Goodyear Eagle F1 SS could really do well.
@@MrVideeeooo That is actually not correct. I just bought a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's for my wife's 2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T. (245/45/18), a month and a half ago.
@@IRaceFormula Ah, I'm guessing you're in the States? There are no 18" PS4S in Europe. And even then I think 245/45/18 are the only ones available in 18" in USA. So the 18" Eagle F1 SS will be very popular here...
Great video, thank you for the information. My ST has 4 different tyres on it (since I bought it recently), so first stop was to upgrade tyres and you've helped me make that decision!
Thank you. Now all we need is some ‘fairplay’ for them to be imported into Australia in the sizes that fit my M135i... i suffer from not being able to get the tyres you want and various times due to being sold out or only being imported at certain times of the year. Here’s hoping Goodyear bring all sizes into Australia as the Michelin Pilot Super Sports are as rare as hens teeth..
@@tyrereviews My bad in big comparison test there are PS 4S vs supersport. Would be nice to have PS 4 vs Asymmetric 5 in head to head test tho. Most people will buy these anyway...
@@maXXik1337 Yes, i would like to see this, too. A few days ago, i bought two PS 4 and later, i recognized, that the Asymmetric 5 ist way cheaper than the PS 4. (Around 30€ per Tire)
I've been watching this channel like a madman. It helped me decide to change the primacy mxv4 to pilot sport all season 4. Whoever thought at honda the 17 inch primacy on a near 300hp v6 honda was a good idea... Needed a lobotomy. They're the same tires on the 4 cylinder version... Which at 185hp I can understand.
@@tyrereviews they're absolutely fantastic. If we didn't have cold winters up here, I'd just put on either the asymmetric 5 or the pilot 4s. I like my cars communicative.
Great video once again! One complaint: the musical interludes are noticeably louder than the rest of the video, it is a bigger problem on some sound systems vs. others in terms of having to reach for the volume every 30 seconds. You could also make the videos longer, I wouldn't mind :D Seriously, as a longtime fan, thank you for putting in the effort to generate real content and information for your videos instead of just being another youtuber who spews out quantity over quality, I greatly appreciate it :)
Love this guy's reviews; there is enough intellect and intelligence for the correct guidance, but somehow seems to eradicate the boring element. I bought a set of Michelin cross climate plus tyres easier this year for a ski trip to Austria and have to say his analysis was bang on. Now I'm looking at these Goodyear SuperSport for the dryer Summer months.
Another well considered, worded and understandable review. Although I appreciate these vids go worldwide, I’d ask how these tyres, plus the tyres from the last epic review, behave in the UK during temperatures and conditions less perfect than beautiful France, like 8-15 deg C, and roads which sometimes feel like they’ve been ploughed.
I've driven my new GYSS in 2 degrees C in the wet and grip was great. The stiffer sidewall compared to the Asy5 will make itself a bit more felt on rutter roads with more tramlining. My personal experience.
@@tyrereviewsgreat. Probably impossible but what about doing the test with a heavyish track car like the Focus RS and something much lighter like a Clio 182 as I'd imagine different tyres work better with different weighted cars.
@tyrereviews here’s a question. I’ve got a Cayman S and fitted Asy 6 to the front only to find it’s not available in the rear size. GY only sell the original F1 Asy1 in the cars rear size of 265/35/19. Assuming the size is mainly fitted to Porsches and they went and N-rated it and don’t want to do the same with successors given a limited volume/demand. I’m happy to move away from N-rating as I have done with the fronts (Asy6). My question is do I go with the original Asy1 on the rear or something else? I can keep with GY and fit a SupeeSport in the right size or go up to 275/35/19 and fit a matching Asy6
Great video! Thank you! After having watched this and other 2 reviews you made (Michelin PS4/ PS4S/ PSS and UHP summer tire test), I have narrowed down to 2 options for my 2016 Focus RS (for 80% road and 20% track usage): Either Michelin's PS4S or Goodyear's F1 SuperSport. Tough choice - which one would you chose? :)
I'd be VERY interested to see a comparison between the new Asymmetric 5 and Michelin pilot sport 4 which was the previous king of the castle of this type of tyre
From what I've seen, I can assume that for a country like mine with 300 sunny days a year, Eagle F1 Asymetric may well be the best choice for fast-paced, but without trackdays. Congratulations for the excellent test.
@@tyrereviews fantastic tyre glad I picked the Goodyear f1 supersport for my focus rs mk2, just 1 question what psi would you run them at , standard is 36 f 33 r, you said 32 psi is at its best what's the difference and will that effect the tyre wear ,cheers
I have Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 in 215/45R17 and as I got 18" wheels I am getting Supersports on them in 205/40. Going to use Supersports only in summer and Asymmetrics in spring and autumn. The test seems to support that plan 100%. Thanks!
@@Camarao_Pistola I don't understand the question? If I can run 17, I should. 18s are all for looks and 205/40 is the best option, 215 would be too tall.
I ordered the Asymmetric 5’s a few days ago. Most of the driving I do is on the road, wet, dry and all year. The track driving I do is in the winter, due to track days being far cheaper. I reckon that the Asymmetric 5’s are the most likely to work well on a cold, potentially wet, UK track as well as being good for the dry. Cost for 205/45/17 was £85 each delivered + fitting.
Hi! I have a very big struggle in chosing the new tyre. I got "pretty heavy" passat B7 alltrack on stage 3 (370bhp) with 345mm brakes, so some times i make pretty intensive drive, so i need good traction tyre for both dry and wet street conditions, but also i traveling a lot with my childs and low speeds with them, so need comfort and low noise from tyres also. I knew its a compromise, but cant choose good tyre for that. Now i on ContiPremium6 and i hate that tyre. Traction good, but noise from that thing is destroying me. What can you say?
I have a question which I can't find the answer to anywhere I'm hoping someone here can help. I'm looking at the Assymetric5 in my size 245/40/18 but there are 2 variations a 93Y and a 97Y. The 97Y on the label is rated better for fuel economy than the 93Y despite being the exact same tyre. Does that mean the 97 will have less grip than the 93 because it has lower rolling resistance.
Hey Jon. As usual I appreciate your reviews. It has helped and does help me do sensible choices for my high performance vehicle. I just submitted a midlife tyre review for the exceptional Michelin Pilot sport 4S and I tell you these tyres have set the bar way up. So my question is directly this: Would the Goodyear super sport be a comparable to the Pilot sport 4S on my 600+ bhp supercharged Ford Mustang GT (yes I upgraded from the ecoboost). On another note I appreciate your diversification as I needed suspension advice for better track performance and comfort for my mustang (ended up installing performance coil overs from Roush).
Kurt Phillips well they are quite expensive for a reason. The ride quality in conjunction with Pilot sport 4S is phenomenal. Also you have less body roll when cornering.
Would you recommend Asymmetric 5 on the car like Sti or new GR Yaris 4wd performance car? Or they're too soft and not giving that confidence in high speed or cornering? Thanks heaps and thanks for always a great review - top notch!
@@tyrereviews I appreciate your response. SuperSport is my target then. Also if I may suggest, for many performance enthusiasts it could be great to see some of the popular semi slicks for street use including dry, wet and handling performance. No one does it better than you!
Agreeing with the below on the semislick comparision I am going to the Nurburgring in my Megane 275 this year and wanting to know what to use. Also how do these 3 compare with wear compared to the Michelin PS4, PS4S and CUP 2? thanks
For 25 years of driving I never felt and major differences between my tires, probably because I drive sensibly most is the time, but I purchased all season tires for the first time and the amount of squirm is simply incredible, never felt anything similar. The car feels so unsafe subjectively while objectively the tires grip very good. Now I am scared that my new summer tires will squirm the same way and that would be really depressing. Do Asymmetric 5 squirm on their soft sidewalls? Are PremiumContact 6 better in this regard?
I ordered the Asymmetric 5 this week. I only drive a small Peugeot 208 with 155 HP but I'm still curious how good the Goodyear will drive. At the moment are still the 7 year old Bridgestone Potenza RE050 assembled. Great Video. Many Greets from Germany
I have a Giulia Quadrifoglio, but sadly 90% of my driving is with the family onboard where confort is probably more important than performance and feel. In this scenario, would you put on the Asymmetric 5 or the Supersport for when you get to enjoy the 10%?
Love your videos you probably have the most comprehensive tire reviews I've seen! Would be really cool if you could do a review on the Goodyear Supercar 3 tires, not really a proper review out there on them. Maybe compare them to something like PS4S or Cup 2 or similar. Im looking to get new tires for my ZL1 if any one has any suggestions! I just don't know if i should stick with stock or not.
@@tyrereviews I think speculation was that Tesla used the Michelin Cup 2 R at least at Nürburgring according to Car and Driver, no confirmation on Laguna Seca. The Supercar 3 tires were made specially for the 2017+ Camaro ZL1 (R variant on ZL1 1LE), and they feel like they have amazing dry grip but hydroplane so easy that it is terrifying here in Florida. Consensus so far is I give up dry grip going to PS4S or the like, but get more wet and less wear. Either way I am always open to suggestions! Been looking at Conti SC 6 a lot lately as well based off your website for R20 rims...
@@tyrereviews Holy crap, that article was definitely wrong, and you are definitely right! I just searched for some images and those are indeed the Supercar 3R tires, track version of mine. I'm starting to think I should just granny it in the rain and stick with the Supercar 3 tires.
Are tyres (tires!) with the same 'name ' (eg. These Goodyear Supersport, Michelin Ps4, Pirelli P-Zero etc.) exactly the same for the North American market (where they seem to focus on wear ratings and long life) versus the European market (where we quote wet grip and dB ratings and focus on grip) ?
Love your reviews and you know how to pedal a car ! What tyre pressure do you recommend for 225-45-18 super sport I’m running my mk7 golf 33 front 32 rear .. the PS4 I was running at 36-34 I drive a lot harder than your average driver both on track and rd . I will do my review for you once I have wet driven the SS. I will say on a MK7 GTD if anyone is reading this ditch your dampers springs and arbs bushes and fit the PP stuff. My car was transformed and on the SS tyres it’s literally a diesel hatch on rails modified it’s a match for any GTI and not far off an oem R or S3 to 100 mph and still 60mpg on a run Get the SS tyres on people they are very very good !
Great test. As a suggestion which I realise wouldn't be easy, would it be possible to get a comparison for how the vast majority use tyres. To do so a test on part worn (maybe ~5mm tread left) and on cold tyres would be ideal. Most of us for the majority of time don't drive on new, hot tyres so knowing how they perform in real life would be ideal. Also as another level would be to make sure the road temperature is between 10-20C.
@@tyrereviews thanks for the response, I suppose it's a fair amount of work to wear tyres to order. Any chance next time to try the cold tyres test, hopefully it won't be too much extra work and it'd be interesting to see the difference.
Really looking forward to the M3 content! Might look at the Supersport on the front on my E90 M3. Have Falken 510 on the back and I know you are doing a vid on mixing tyres. Any advice?
It will be night and day compared with the Accelera on the rear and Conti sport contact 6 on the front! Fear and danger and a winter drive was very interesting.
Great video mate! I would love to have the F1 Supersports but I need to have in 17" similar to the PS4S they don't come in these sizes. I am looking for a sports tire for my MX-5 and now I am stuck on what to go for.. My ambition is to hit the track a couple of times this year. I have been looking at the Cup 2s however living in Sweden I am not sure if that is a wise choice conisdering that we have rain every now and then... What would you go for if not having two sets of tires
@@tyrereviews I did go for the CUP 2s, 215/45R17 hope it works out well. Will be installing track oriented coilovers as, hopefully it will be a good match
I am seeing so much contradicting information about tyres it is infuriating. I have an AWD Mini Countryman JCW with 310bhp and OEM Pzero's (225/45/r19 96Y). They are garbage and need to be replaced. Do I replace them with Michelin PS4S or Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5's? Your website suggests the F1's are the highest rated. Assuming price is the same, which tyres do i get for best dry and wet performance? The Pzero slip and slide on any kind of wet surface even with AWD
(copy, same Q in other comment). I've had both in direct succession, and the MPSS wasn't worn. The MPSS is still the best tyre for outright feel imho but the GYSS is better in everything else, and wet grip is lightyears better.
I could really use a Fulda SC2 comparison. To other similar tyres, but with a Michelin PS4 thrown in for reference. Fulda is very tempting- I like "spirited" driving, but I have so many motorway miles for work that comfort and especially noise are quite important. Had a set of Fuldas on my first car, and I recall good grip, low noise and relatively good handling for the price and type of tyre. (Back in 2001 on a '92 Legacy)
Any experience with the same model/size tire but made in another country? Do you think it makes any difference? Some people talk trash about for example Goodyear summer tires or Nokian winter tires, that they are worse if made in Russia than in Slovenia, Poland or Finland or ... what do you think?
I liked the video, but what time per lap has each model got ??? I am thinking of acquiring one of them, I will most certainly opt for the F1 supersport
I need your opinion please! I’m currently daily driving a sporty hatchback 18 inch, which would you choose between eagle f1 asymmetric 6 and eagle f1 supersport? No track, summer daily driving on dry/wet, looking for high handling but without bad performance on wet I’m really undecided! Thank you, very good channel✌️
Great review , I am looking at getting the F1 SuperSport for my Hyundai i30N , what tyre pressures do you recommend on Track ? Currently I run Nankang AR1's at 33 psi hot. Thanks again.
@@tyrereviews Please fastforward to "dry handling" at 3:20 you said, "if anything at highspeed, the sidewall becomes flexible, loses stability and get wobbly" those are your words. You forgot you used these words?
So the R is only marginally (0.5 sec over 90 secs) faster than regular super sport in the dry, but miles behind in the wet ? Is there any real benefit for the R then?
Great content - Any thoughts about doing an in depth review of how a layperson can evaluate tyre tread with best tips to maintain tyre longevity. Would be a cheap but very helpful review for people wanting to learn more about keeping a close eye on their tyres, not to mention prompting earlier changes of bald ones improving community safety too! Majority of content in this area is vague, poorly presented and not systematic. Just an idea 🙂
All four Tyres are due an upgrade from Asymetric 3 at the rear and MPSS up front on my 2016 M135i . Looking for increased grip in the wet and overall better traction off the line, living in England as you know it rains forever. 50/50 split between commuter miles and spirited drives. The Asymmetric 5 seems to be a great in the wet. However the Supersport seems to be the overall better performer. Stuck!
Tricky. The SuperSport might be marginally better in the wet, but the Asym 5 might be a slightly better tyre for those commuter miles. As it's me, I'd always go for more UHP bias on an M135i, so go for the SuperSport. IT'll also feel more MPSS like on the front axle.
@@James-RJM Hi, I was waiting on the EF1 Supersports to come into stock, after 6 months of waiting I ended up going for the Asymmetric 5. I would say they are not as good as the Michelin in the dry however Absolutely fantastic in the Wet, ideal for UK weather. Tyre size 18"
Hi.. which one of the three would you fit a car of 1,850 kg, with 717 hp, in 305/35/R20 size? probably won't go much on a track, but enjoy grip and traction... mostly in the dry... Thank you for your response.
hey man thanks for the great video. I have a bmw z4 e89 with 19 inch wheels currently with bridgestone s001 rft 225/35r19 255/30r19 and the ride quality and road noise is too bad... especially reaching 100km/h. Im choosing between PS4, f1a5 and csc6 with 225/40r19 and 255/35r19 which one provide the best comfort and low noise level? thank you
I'm replacing my michelin supersport with the Goodyear version, seen a few reviews from the states and this review just confirms it. Need a P4s V G'year supersport
@@tyrereviews Thank you so much for your response. I had asymmetric 5 in 215/45/17.I didn't really like it.Not the grip I expected from it. I wrote a review yesterday in tyrereviews.co.uk.(great site by the way.Congrats!) I am going for the f1 supersport this week in 225/40/18.
As always really enjoyed all your videos. Currently i am in need of new tyres but the super sport is out of stocks everywhere in my country. Will there be a lot of difference in terms of grip on the streets? I do occasionally spirited drives on my stage2 tuned a45. Thank you for any advice.
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Thank you!
115 K subscribers though!...
RainbowCharade they have definitely amassed a lot of subscriber in the past year
It’s growing but slow and steady 👍🏽
Again, great video. Looking forward to Cup 2 vs SuperSport R.
Me too, if I can ever make it happen!
Same! On dry and wet and also if possible on wear.
Great test and clear view on how these tires differ in feel and all out performance! Sounds like Goodyear is back as a good option for high performance cars where Michelin has been dominating in recent years! Nothing better than competition to drive development forwards! :)
We need a budget semislick comparison!
Nankang ns2r vs federal RS-R or RS-PRO vs Zestino.
Yokohama neova ad08r Vs R888R Nankang AR1 or similar. Please!
He’s doing something soon. Iv made suggestions like Hankook Rs4, ad08r, Nankang etc
As soon as I have a test car!
The ad08-r is not a direct rival of the r888r and ar-1. Maybe the ad048
Yes!!! Please
@@pmrrmm i know, but ad08r works very very good, they are comparable, in fact, they are better than r888 because this ones doesnt resist very good the temperature, they overhear too fast.
Good to see your subs climbing up! Well deserved
Thank you!
Hes got big arms from changing his tyres all the time
Someone buy him an impact gun!
Awesome video!
Some of the results are a surprise
Im running Asymetric 5 front and SUpersports back on a F31 335xd and love them! Always been a Potenza guy until I bought this car second hand with this ones, which Im keeping for future tyrechanges. Great content m8te!
F1 SuperSport seems like the best compromise for a sports car. Curious how it compares to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.
Thanks for the awesome review!
See the last video! Directly compared
@@tyrereviews Thanks for all your vids and hard work, it's much appreciated. I still 'feel' as though the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's are just about (and not by as much of a great deal as the Pilot Supersport was over its competition) the industry standard as the UHP tire of choice. Just my 2 cents having sampled a few and ultimately, tire wear was my deciding factor but there really is no outstanding compromise between the Michelin's, Goodyear's and Conti's 6.
@@frankie_wmg Don't forget the PS4S are only made in 19" and above....so there is a gaping hole in the market for 18" wheels on high performance cars and I think this is where the Goodyear Eagle F1 SS could really do well.
@@MrVideeeooo That is actually not correct. I just bought a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's for my wife's 2013 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T. (245/45/18), a month and a half ago.
@@IRaceFormula Ah, I'm guessing you're in the States? There are no 18" PS4S in Europe. And even then I think 245/45/18 are the only ones available in 18" in USA. So the 18" Eagle F1 SS will be very popular here...
Fitted front Asymmetric 5 up front on my Focus ST. They brilliant 👌🏾👌🏾
Glad you like them :)
Can't wait to try the Assymetric 5!
Goodyear/Dunlop always has the best noise ratings 👍🏻
It's a really great tyre
Supersport is better in grip, supersport are like dunlop RT, they wear faster (240 treadwear vs 300 of the asym5)
Great video, thank you for the information. My ST has 4 different tyres on it (since I bought it recently), so first stop was to upgrade tyres and you've helped me make that decision!
Great video. Always good information. Thanks a bunch and please keep it coming.
Awesome video! Goodyear sales are going to be rocketing this year 😃
My new favorite channel
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Thank you. Now all we need is some ‘fairplay’ for them to be imported into Australia in the sizes that fit my M135i... i suffer from not being able to get the tyres you want and various times due to being sold out or only being imported at certain times of the year. Here’s hoping Goodyear bring all sizes into Australia as the Michelin Pilot Super Sports are as rare as hens teeth..
Just changed from Asymmetric 3 to asymmetric 5 and no complaints with them, great tyres
Good job, but still waiting for Pilot Sport 4 vs Asymmetric 5 (PS 4S vs 5 SuperSport).
I think it's been done, check the website
@@tyrereviews My bad in big comparison test there are PS 4S vs supersport.
Would be nice to have PS 4 vs Asymmetric 5 in head to head test tho. Most people will buy these anyway...
@@maXXik1337 Yes, i would like to see this, too. A few days ago, i bought two PS 4 and later, i recognized, that the Asymmetric 5 ist way cheaper than the PS 4. (Around 30€ per Tire)
Another great test. Thanks.
I've been watching this channel like a madman. It helped me decide to change the primacy mxv4 to pilot sport all season 4.
Whoever thought at honda the 17 inch primacy on a near 300hp v6 honda was a good idea... Needed a lobotomy. They're the same tires on the 4 cylinder version... Which at 185hp I can understand.
Let me know how you find them :)
@@tyrereviews they're absolutely fantastic. If we didn't have cold winters up here, I'd just put on either the asymmetric 5 or the pilot 4s. I like my cars communicative.
Informative review as per usual. Cheers for the effort
Can’t wait for more sizes of the SuperSport RS to be available
Me too!
Thanks for your channel. Got the asymmetrical 5’s because of a previous video. Keep up the good work. The tyre guy with guns. Lol
Great video once again! One complaint: the musical interludes are noticeably louder than the rest of the video, it is a bigger problem on some sound systems vs. others in terms of having to reach for the volume every 30 seconds. You could also make the videos longer, I wouldn't mind :D Seriously, as a longtime fan, thank you for putting in the effort to generate real content and information for your videos instead of just being another youtuber who spews out quantity over quality, I greatly appreciate it :)
Thanks, I thought I'd balanced the music well in edit, apparently not! The final edit was a bit rushed
Love this guy's reviews; there is enough intellect and intelligence for the correct guidance, but somehow seems to eradicate the boring element. I bought a set of Michelin cross climate plus tyres easier this year for a ski trip to Austria and have to say his analysis was bang on. Now I'm looking at these Goodyear SuperSport for the dryer Summer months.
Thank you :)
Another well considered, worded and understandable review. Although I appreciate these vids go worldwide, I’d ask how these tyres, plus the tyres from the last epic review, behave in the UK during temperatures and conditions less perfect than beautiful France, like 8-15 deg C, and roads which sometimes feel like they’ve been ploughed.
Temperature specific testing is so difficult we have to rely on user reviews on the site
I've driven my new GYSS in 2 degrees C in the wet and grip was great. The stiffer sidewall compared to the Asy5 will make itself a bit more felt on rutter roads with more tramlining. My personal experience.
Can we get a test of semi slicks? AR1, R888R, RSR, A048, and also maybe more road based ones like Ad08R, Cup2, NS2R, etc
Working on it :)
@@tyrereviewsgreat. Probably impossible but what about doing the test with a heavyish track car like the Focus RS and something much lighter like a Clio 182 as I'd imagine different tyres work better with different weighted cars.
Props for the RS. Would love to see vs Cup 2.
RS will go against Cup 2 R :)
@@tyrereviews awesomeness!
Great review, thanks
Thanks for watching!
You, Matt Watson and Chris Harris for Topgear!
Deal!
Great video as always. Be interesting to see the Goodyear Supersport vs the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.
See the previous video...
@tyrereviews here’s a question.
I’ve got a Cayman S and fitted Asy 6 to the front only to find it’s not available in the rear size. GY only sell the original F1 Asy1 in the cars rear size of 265/35/19. Assuming the size is mainly fitted to Porsches and they went and N-rated it and don’t want to do the same with successors given a limited volume/demand. I’m happy to move away from N-rating as I have done with the fronts (Asy6). My question is do I go with the original Asy1 on the rear or something else? I can keep with GY and fit a SupeeSport in the right size or go up to 275/35/19 and fit a matching Asy6
Looking forward for a "Budget" Sport Tyre Comparison with new manufacturers (FULDA etc.)
I would love that one!!
Trying my best, time is the issue!
Will you please do re71r vs rival s 1.5 they both come in a 305 30 19. If not will you let me know why not? Do you guys not use these tires? Thanks
What's s1.5? We don't really get the RE71R in Europe so it's quite difficult to include.
@@tyrereviews bfg rival s 1.5
@@tyrereviews makes sense. Here that's all we pretty much use on track and auto x.
Great Comparo!!!
Great video! Thank you!
After having watched this and other 2 reviews you made (Michelin PS4/ PS4S/ PSS and UHP summer tire test), I have narrowed down to 2 options for my 2016 Focus RS (for 80% road and 20% track usage): Either Michelin's PS4S or Goodyear's F1 SuperSport.
Tough choice - which one would you chose? :)
... Both! I think I answered you on the site, but if I now had to pick, maybe the Goodyears just because they're newer
I'd be VERY interested to see a comparison between the new Asymmetric 5 and Michelin pilot sport 4 which was the previous king of the castle of this type of tyre
It's coming at some point, data on the website tho
Great review - thank you.
From what I've seen, I can assume that for a country like mine with 300 sunny days a year, Eagle F1 Asymetric may well be the best choice for fast-paced, but without trackdays. Congratulations for the excellent test.
SuperSport for me
@@tyrereviews fantastic tyre glad I picked the Goodyear f1 supersport for my focus rs mk2, just 1 question what psi would you run them at , standard is 36 f 33 r, you said 32 psi is at its best what's the difference and will that effect the tyre wear ,cheers
@@adriangroves145 I'd start at standard then play with them as you adjust the balance of the car to suit your own driving style :)
Another great, informative review. Gutted the Supersport does not come in 255/35r18 in the UK for my e46 M Sport.
They're adding sizes all the time
Thank you for another great and informative video.
For next summer i need tires that are silesilent, comfortable , but in same time give you a good grip and sharp on steering . What should i get?
I have Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 in 215/45R17 and as I got 18" wheels I am getting Supersports on them in 205/40. Going to use Supersports only in summer and Asymmetrics in spring and autumn. The test seems to support that plan 100%. Thanks!
You have wider tyres with r17 than r18?
@@Camarao_Pistola I don't understand the question? If I can run 17, I should. 18s are all for looks and 205/40 is the best option, 215 would be too tall.
@@penttijakonen3817 you said 215 r17, and 205 r18. Wider tyre on smaller wheel
@@Camarao_Pistola Yes. I don't understand why that caught your attention. Wheel diameter has nothing to do with tire width.
@@penttijakonen3817 ok then 😂
Good Year because of the better steering, driving and braking under wet conditions
Got these off of your recommendation. Can't wait to pair 'em up with BBS CH 025 Motorsport :)
Great test thank you so much.
Love the videos but for future ones can you put text onscreen for the tire your reviewing during the review
Very good comparison
Please do more tire review on this car! Lots of hot hatches use 235/35 19 today. Good job 👍👍👍
Working on it :)
I ordered the Asymmetric 5’s a few days ago. Most of the driving I do is on the road, wet, dry and all year. The track driving I do is in the winter, due to track days being far cheaper. I reckon that the Asymmetric 5’s are the most likely to work well on a cold, potentially wet, UK track as well as being good for the dry. Cost for 205/45/17 was £85 each delivered + fitting.
GYSS are still good in the cold, bit don't come as 17" afaik (yet?)
Asym 5 are surprisingly great on track too
Hi! I have a very big struggle in chosing the new tyre. I got "pretty heavy" passat B7 alltrack on stage 3 (370bhp) with 345mm brakes, so some times i make pretty intensive drive, so i need good traction tyre for both dry and wet street conditions, but also i traveling a lot with my childs and low speeds with them, so need comfort and low noise from tyres also.
I knew its a compromise, but cant choose good tyre for that. Now i on ContiPremium6 and i hate that tyre. Traction good, but noise from that thing is destroying me.
What can you say?
Maybe Asym 5
I have a question which I can't find the answer to anywhere I'm hoping someone here can help. I'm looking at the Assymetric5 in my size 245/40/18 but there are 2 variations a 93Y and a 97Y. The 97Y on the label is rated better for fuel economy than the 93Y despite being the exact same tyre. Does that mean the 97 will have less grip than the 93 because it has lower rolling resistance.
I don't think grip will be affected by the load rating
would you select a different tyre based on rwd, fwd, awd? or depending on suspension, weightdistribution and other factors?
Unlikely, there would be some slight differences but what works for one drive train will also work with others
Hey Jon. As usual I appreciate your reviews. It has helped and does help me do sensible choices for my high performance vehicle. I just submitted a midlife tyre review for the exceptional Michelin Pilot sport 4S and I tell you these tyres have set the bar way up. So my question is directly this: Would the Goodyear super sport be a comparable to the Pilot sport 4S on my 600+ bhp supercharged Ford Mustang GT (yes I upgraded from the ecoboost).
On another note I appreciate your diversification as I needed suspension advice for better track performance and comfort for my mustang (ended up installing performance coil overs from Roush).
I think they're worth trying if you can get the sizes :)
How are you finding the coilovers?
Kurt Phillips well they are quite expensive for a reason. The ride quality in conjunction with Pilot sport 4S is phenomenal. Also you have less body roll when cornering.
Would you recommend Asymmetric 5 on the car like Sti or new GR Yaris 4wd performance car? Or they're too soft and not giving that confidence in high speed or cornering? Thanks heaps and thanks for always a great review - top notch!
I'd prefer the F1 SuperSport if you wanted a goodyear for those sorts of tyres
@@tyrereviews I appreciate your response. SuperSport is my target then. Also if I may suggest, for many performance enthusiasts it could be great to see some of the popular semi slicks for street use including dry, wet and handling performance. No one does it better than you!
Sweet review thanks
Agreeing with the below on the semislick comparision I am going to the Nurburgring in my Megane 275 this year and wanting to know what to use. Also how do these 3 compare with wear compared to the Michelin PS4, PS4S and CUP 2? thanks
Great video, lot of information to process... 👍
Only one question...
How come the dry times are in the 90+ seconds and the wet ones in the 70+??? 🤔🤔🤔
Different circuits :)
Well they are ordered F1 Supersport R , what tyre pressure hot do i run on Track ? Hyundai i30N
Id love to see you review clubsport type of uhp and Trackday tires along the lines of the AD08R and Federal 595RSR, with sizes 17" and below
That's the plan for the m3 eventually!
For 25 years of driving I never felt and major differences between my tires, probably because I drive sensibly most is the time, but I purchased all season tires for the first time and the amount of squirm is simply incredible, never felt anything similar. The car feels so unsafe subjectively while objectively the tires grip very good.
Now I am scared that my new summer tires will squirm the same way and that would be really depressing.
Do Asymmetric 5 squirm on their soft sidewalls? Are PremiumContact 6 better in this regard?
What are your thoughts on the Focus RS?
Great car, really pointy and good fun. I had the tuned version as a press car for a week, even better
@@tyrereviews Cool. Looking to have mine tuned in the near future.
How does the Super sport compare to the Pilot Sport 4S? I guess that's it's direct competitor?
Great review as always!
SEe previous video!
I ordered the Asymmetric 5 this week. I only drive a small Peugeot 208 with 155 HP but I'm still curious how good the Goodyear will drive. At the moment are still the 7 year old Bridgestone Potenza RE050 assembled. Great Video. Many Greets from Germany
It'll be great
Nice review, if you have to choose between the super sport and the pilot sport 4, which one you will buy for the Mk7 gti?
Thank you for the answer 😊
F1 super sport
I have a Giulia Quadrifoglio, but sadly 90% of my driving is with the family onboard where confort is probably more important than performance and feel. In this scenario, would you put on the Asymmetric 5 or the Supersport for when you get to enjoy the 10%?
I'd still go SuperSport, great car!
Love your videos you probably have the most comprehensive tire reviews I've seen!
Would be really cool if you could do a review on the Goodyear Supercar 3 tires, not really a proper review out there on them. Maybe compare them to something like PS4S or Cup 2 or similar.
Im looking to get new tires for my ZL1 if any one has any suggestions! I just don't know if i should stick with stock or not.
We sadly don't get that tyre in the UK,but I'll try and do something with the US. Isn't the Supercar 3 the tyre Tesla just did the EV lap record on?
@@tyrereviews I think speculation was that Tesla used the Michelin Cup 2 R at least at Nürburgring according to Car and Driver, no confirmation on Laguna Seca.
The Supercar 3 tires were made specially for the 2017+ Camaro ZL1 (R variant on ZL1 1LE), and they feel like they have amazing dry grip but hydroplane so easy that it is terrifying here in Florida.
Consensus so far is I give up dry grip going to PS4S or the like, but get more wet and less wear.
Either way I am always open to suggestions! Been looking at Conti SC 6 a lot lately as well based off your website for R20 rims...
@@Recon13x Definitely the Goodyears for the ring lap, you can just about see the sidewall and the tread pattern matches perfectly :)
@@tyrereviews Holy crap, that article was definitely wrong, and you are definitely right!
I just searched for some images and those are indeed the Supercar 3R tires, track version of mine.
I'm starting to think I should just granny it in the rain and stick with the Supercar 3 tires.
Are tyres (tires!) with the same 'name ' (eg. These Goodyear Supersport, Michelin Ps4, Pirelli P-Zero etc.) exactly the same for the North American market (where they seem to focus on wear ratings and long life) versus the European market (where we quote wet grip and dB ratings and focus on grip) ?
Michelin is yes, the Goodyear doesn't exist yet, and I'm not sure on the Pirelli, as there's lots of P Zeros in existence even in Europe!
Love your reviews and you know how to pedal a car ! What tyre pressure do you recommend for 225-45-18 super sport I’m running my mk7 golf 33 front 32 rear .. the PS4 I was running at 36-34 I drive a lot harder than your average driver both on track and rd . I will do my review for you once I have wet driven the SS.
I will say on a MK7 GTD if anyone is reading this ditch your dampers springs and arbs bushes and fit the PP stuff. My car was transformed and on the SS tyres it’s literally a diesel hatch on rails modified it’s a match for any GTI and not far off an oem R or S3 to 100 mph and still 60mpg on a run
Get the SS tyres on people they are very very good !
I'd start at stock then play with them. Usually I like a few PSI up on the road for better steering feel
Great test. As a suggestion which I realise wouldn't be easy, would it be possible to get a comparison for how the vast majority use tyres. To do so a test on part worn (maybe ~5mm tread left) and on cold tyres would be ideal. Most of us for the majority of time don't drive on new, hot tyres so knowing how they perform in real life would be ideal. Also as another level would be to make sure the road temperature is between 10-20C.
I would love to but sadly getting worn tyres is very expensive
@@tyrereviews thanks for the response, I suppose it's a fair amount of work to wear tyres to order. Any chance next time to try the cold tyres test, hopefully it won't be too much extra work and it'd be interesting to see the difference.
Really looking forward to the M3 content! Might look at the Supersport on the front on my E90 M3. Have Falken 510 on the back and I know you are doing a vid on mixing tyres. Any advice?
The Falkens are quite soft so your M3 could feel quite oversteery at the rear
@@tyrereviews that what I thought. Might go for the 4s or asymmetric 5 then. Looking for steering feel on the front over the Falkens all round.
It will be night and day compared with the Accelera on the rear and Conti sport contact 6 on the front! Fear and danger and a winter drive was very interesting.
Great video mate! I would love to have the F1 Supersports but I need to have in 17" similar to the PS4S they don't come in these sizes. I am looking for a sports tire for my MX-5 and now I am stuck on what to go for.. My ambition is to hit the track a couple of times this year. I have been looking at the Cup 2s however living in Sweden I am not sure if that is a wise choice conisdering that we have rain every now and then... What would you go for if not having two sets of tires
Asym 5, but the cup2 and another set of wheels would be more fun
@@tyrereviews I did go for the CUP 2s, 215/45R17 hope it works out well. Will be installing track oriented coilovers as, hopefully it will be a good match
@@Themazcorner That'll be a lot of run :)
*fun
@@tyrereviews yeah can't wait to have everything on and go driving but today it started snowing haha
I am seeing so much contradicting information about tyres it is infuriating.
I have an AWD Mini Countryman JCW with 310bhp and OEM Pzero's (225/45/r19 96Y). They are garbage and need to be replaced.
Do I replace them with Michelin PS4S or Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5's? Your website suggests the F1's are the highest rated. Assuming price is the same, which tyres do i get for best dry and wet performance? The Pzero slip and slide on any kind of wet surface even with AWD
PS4S is a little more sporty, the Goodyear rival would be the F1 SuperSport. Check out the mega tyre test video with the M2
Which did you go with?!!
Please compare the GoodYear Super Sport with the Michelin Pilot Super Sport :)
Great channel 👍🏻
Sadly as the PSS is now replaced by the 4S, this isn't a test that's easy to make happen. The F1SS was tested against the 4S in my last video
(copy, same Q in other comment). I've had both in direct succession, and the MPSS wasn't worn. The MPSS is still the best tyre for outright feel imho but the GYSS is better in everything else, and wet grip is lightyears better.
@@tyrereviews We still get plenty of Michelin Pilot Super Sport here in Australia.
Could you make a review for premium touring tires? Most of drivers are using this type of tyre instead of the performance tyre
Working on it :)
Thank you! Keeping up the great work... you are the only genuine tyre reviewer on RUclips.
I could really use a Fulda SC2 comparison. To other similar tyres, but with a Michelin PS4 thrown in for reference.
Fulda is very tempting- I like "spirited" driving, but I have so many motorway miles for work that comfort and especially noise are quite important.
Had a set of Fuldas on my first car, and I recall good grip, low noise and relatively good handling for the price and type of tyre. (Back in 2001 on a '92 Legacy)
Out of the PS4 and the F1 eagle super sport which do you think is a better choice for a FWD hot hatch?
SuperSport
Tyre Reviews cheers 👍🏼
Thanks for the review.Sad that supersport rs is only on gt2rs sizes
Hopefully more in the future!
How do the supersports compare with the ps4. Have been through asy 3 and 5, ps4s at the moment.
Find out next month!
Any experience with the same model/size tire but made in another country? Do you think it makes any difference? Some people talk trash about for example Goodyear summer tires or Nokian winter tires, that they are worse if made in Russia than in Slovenia, Poland or Finland or ... what do you think?
It's rare you get the same sizes made in different factories, however in theory if you did the tyres should be the same
I liked the video, but what time per lap has each model got ???
I am thinking of acquiring one of them, I will most certainly opt for the F1 supersport
I'm sure the times are in the video?
I need your opinion please!
I’m currently daily driving a sporty hatchback 18 inch, which would you choose between eagle f1 asymmetric 6 and eagle f1 supersport?
No track, summer daily driving on dry/wet, looking for high handling but without bad performance on wet
I’m really undecided!
Thank you, very good channel✌️
Great review , I am looking at getting the F1 SuperSport for my Hyundai i30N , what tyre pressures do you recommend on Track ? Currently I run Nankang AR1's at 33 psi hot. Thanks again.
Would it be possible to retest these tires later this year when temperatures fall into the 0°C/ 32° F?
If you'd like to fund the test, sure ;)
Fit winter tyres for that weather!
Had the GYSS in 2 degrees C in the wet, and grip was still excellent!
Which one isn't wobbly in highspeed or which wobbles the least between, Goodyear asy 5, Conti premium contact 6 and michelin pilot sport 4?
What do you mean by high speed wobble?
@@tyrereviews Please fastforward to "dry handling" at 3:20 you said, "if anything at highspeed, the sidewall becomes flexible, loses stability and get wobbly" those are your words. You forgot you used these words?
@@kay19833 HAve a watch of the Asym 5 vs Asym 3 vs PC6 review, should answer your questions :)
@@tire_reviews I have watched it, it didn't answer my question. If you know the answer, why are you making me have to ask you to say it?
So the R is only marginally (0.5 sec over 90 secs) faster than regular super sport in the dry, but miles behind in the wet ? Is there any real benefit for the R then?
Interested in a comparison with the track day tyres from Nankang. I hear that the AR1 is supposed to be a significant step on from the NS2R
Working on it :)
@@tyrereviews brilliant thanks! Channel is great at the moment. Just the right mix of information without being too technical 👍
Great content - Any thoughts about doing an in depth review of how a layperson can evaluate tyre tread with best tips to maintain tyre longevity. Would be a cheap but very helpful review for people wanting to learn more about keeping a close eye on their tyres, not to mention prompting earlier changes of bald ones improving community safety too! Majority of content in this area is vague, poorly presented and not systematic. Just an idea 🙂
I love the idea and it's on the list :)
I swear Goodyear better bring the Supersport stateside.
Email them!
All four Tyres are due an upgrade from Asymetric 3 at the rear and MPSS up front on my 2016 M135i .
Looking for increased grip in the wet and overall better traction off the line, living in England as you know it rains forever. 50/50 split between commuter miles and spirited drives.
The Asymmetric 5 seems to be a great in the wet. However the Supersport seems to be the overall better performer. Stuck!
Tricky. The SuperSport might be marginally better in the wet, but the Asym 5 might be a slightly better tyre for those commuter miles.
As it's me, I'd always go for more UHP bias on an M135i, so go for the SuperSport. IT'll also feel more MPSS like on the front axle.
Hi. Which did you go for mate and on what wheel size? I've already seen ALL the latest Tyre Reviews tests.
Cheers
@@James-RJM Hi, I was waiting on the EF1 Supersports to come into stock, after 6 months of waiting I ended up going for the Asymmetric 5. I would say they are not as good as the Michelin in the dry however Absolutely fantastic in the Wet, ideal for UK weather. Tyre size 18"
@@DRIZNISH Interesting!
And since the latest 225/40/18 Tyre Reviews group test, probably, the better choice for the road and wet weather!👍
I would like to see test with 1/2 or 2/3 wear: SuperSport vs PS4S vs Conti :)
Sadly wear testing is mega expensive to do properly!
Hi.. which one of the three would you fit a car of 1,850 kg, with 717 hp, in 305/35/R20 size? probably won't go much on a track, but enjoy grip and traction... mostly in the dry...
Thank you for your response.
SuperSport for sure if it's on the road :)
Tyre Reviews thanks!
hey man thanks for the great video. I have a bmw z4 e89 with 19 inch wheels currently with bridgestone s001 rft 225/35r19 255/30r19 and the ride quality and road noise is too bad... especially reaching 100km/h.
Im choosing between PS4, f1a5 and csc6 with 225/40r19 and 255/35r19 which one provide the best comfort and low noise level? thank you
I believe the A5
Whats the treadwear on the SuportSport and R ?
And when will they the R's be available?
Not as good as the AS5.
I'm replacing my michelin supersport with the Goodyear version, seen a few reviews from the states and this review just confirms it. Need a P4s V G'year supersport
ignore me lol found the article
Let me know how you find the supersport to supersport change
also interesting in compare between two supersports
In for the review
My GYSS user first review is on the tyrereviews site, also comparing to my previous MPSS. Still valid 3 months on.
What credential do you have for being a tyre tester?
I wonder if these are longer lasting than Michelins?!
Damn that SuperSport impresses me.
Is the f1 supersport suitable for Kia pro ceed 150hp?
Do they need to be heated to properly use ther grip?
Yes and not really :)
@@tyrereviews Thank you so much for your response.
I had asymmetric 5 in 215/45/17.I didn't really like it.Not the grip I expected from it.
I wrote a review yesterday in tyrereviews.co.uk.(great site by the way.Congrats!)
I am going for the f1 supersport this week in 225/40/18.
@@hakgar Exciting, I look forward to hearing how you find the SuperSport!
Great test.
Thank you
As always really enjoyed all your videos. Currently i am in need of new tyres but the super sport is out of stocks everywhere in my country. Will there be a lot of difference in terms of grip on the streets? I do occasionally spirited drives on my stage2 tuned a45. Thank you for any advice.
Not a huge grip difference. What size wheels do you have?
Tyre Reviews 235/40/18. Super sport vs a5 on streets
were you in any drive mode on the track in the focus??? Looked like you were in comfort...
TC and ESP off which puts the car into sport mode